Anyone want some pizza?

@theoptimist4771

3 жыл бұрын

Pizza Time!

@kvaknanhere2250

3 жыл бұрын

No pineapple

@insanedominator8176

3 жыл бұрын

What kind

@Omar_Little

3 жыл бұрын

you forgot to mention spoilers for The Rise of Skywalker.

@b1ackbart

3 жыл бұрын

Are you buying?

I hatee the fan service so much. I just wanted a starwars story that doesn't have characters from the man story. Just a story about mandalorian with his baby yoda, it also makes the universe feel so small

@KD-kb4wv

3 жыл бұрын

Try Star Wars Resistance or Star Wars Rebels if you haven't already both shows focuses on a new set of characters. Resistance does a good job of showing what its like to be a pilot in the Star Wars universe and Rebels shows more stuff with and without the force. You also get to see new worlds and new creatures from both of these stories. I'd recommend these two shows over the Mandalorian any day. :)

@levi_exiled8579

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Avengers Endgame was 3 hours of fan service with too many issues. Disney sucks and it's rotten to it's core.

@TheFemaleTitan

2 жыл бұрын

@@levi_exiled8579 Endgame is a combination of 10 years you clown. It’s purposely build up as it is supposed to be a fan service movie, and the biggest one yet. It generally succeeded in providing so, whether you liked it or not is ofc your opinion. But know the difference.

Personally, my biggest problem is that the Empire is a complete joke in season 2. The closest thing we get to a death scene is the Razorcrest blowing up. The stakes just didn't feel high (with an exception for the Dark Troopers) and frankly there were many things I would've done differently. I loved this season, but at the same time, I am disappointed (Although chapter 9 is my favorite episode of the show).

5:12 nah, it was Frog Lady for me. That was my breakout character.

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Good shout

@craterface2940

3 жыл бұрын

I liked the frog lady. A sivilian mother on a quest for her future. When they introdused her i figured it was gonna be somthing about the Child And the force and the new life the eggs represent. As that not something we really have seen in SW. And there was a sliver of that in the 4th ep, but Shame it was mostly «eating babys, cuz he dosent now any better» witch isent that funny

@adpmaia

3 жыл бұрын

The Witcher 3 Skillet mission equivalent

"Babe it's 4pm, time to put luke skywalker and ahsoka tano in your Mandalorian tv show!" "Yes Father Favreau"

@Dgjserffft

3 жыл бұрын

“Yes father filoni”

the problem with The Mandalorian season 2 is that we have opinions on it

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

the best Star Wars is Solo because no one has anything to say about it

@LoverboyMedia

3 жыл бұрын

the real problem, actually, is that anyone is watching it

@iancrawley3815

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf I must be the one fan who genuinely liked Solo haha

@alexvjuz882

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancrawley3815 Doubt it. I genuinely like all Star Wars movies, Solo included.

@VeranProwlerthestormtrooper

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf Solo is trash 🗑

Yep hit the nail on the head. That scene with Luke taking baby yoda away just literally showed that whatever creative direction they were going on is going to have "Remember this!" as a main sauce instead of a tasteful sprinkling. We went from a delicious enthusiast piece of pizza to slathered in garlic butter and cheese sauce for the masses who just don't care. They want the same predictable thing from other restaurants in this one too. Star Wars will continue to be a echo chamber of call backs upon call backs upon call backs to the things that really made it great that further diminish over time. I would have enjoyed a Boba Fett cameo where he took the armor back, just for a small part of the episode but not get dragged into an out of character "Boba is a good guy hero now" arch. Also the costume was jarringly cheap looking and the black robe was weird too. The Cameos shoehorned in just felt forced and didn't develop naturally. Ashoka, Bo-Katan, Boba, and Luke felt shoe horned in. I mean for fuck's sakes Luke could have even said "I'm Luke Skywalker and I'm here to rescue you." if you really wanted it. He didn't even introduce himself lol. He just took the kid and dipped. The music was really bad for the Dark Troopers too. Dubstep is so dated it's shocking they did that, as well as the cheapness of some of the costumes. They did my boy Boba dirty again and they also Took Din's fire away by making him take a backseat to legacy characters.

I feel like part of the reason as to why there are a lot of “legacy” characters is because the show is currently playing a major role in rejuvenating the Star Wars franchise as whole after the sequel trilogy divided the fan base. So with the success of The Mandalorian, I feel like the creators wanted to set up the future of Star Wars by having all these pre-established characters play natural roles within season 2, so that they could essentially kill two birds one stone. The two birds being: saving the future sustainability of Star Wars as a franchise after Disney’s polarising trilogy of films as well the continuation of the arc of the Mandalorian. With that in mind, I believe that the team did a pretty great in job trying to please the majority of Star Wars fans, despite having to strike a balance between fan service and the plot which to some people, might have felt like a departure from season 1 and to others like myself, it provided a sense of catharsis after many years of dealing with disappointing sequels. With that said, I do believe that there are quite a few flaws with the season and can understand why some people might’ve enjoyed season 1 more. I personally love the entire show so far though.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

Swing and a miss. Not just because the Sequel trilogy didn’t “divide the fan base”(it’s been divided since the 90s). And not just because there’s been one legacy character at most. But because Season 2 was filmed, like, way in advance. Before the first season even premiered.

@mtgleam8723

3 жыл бұрын

Without new, interesting characters there is no future to star wars. I like legacy characters and I'm a sucker for fanservice, but that's not the remedy star wars needs. Look at The Force Awakens and what came out of that.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@mtgleam8723 We AREN’T without new interesting characters though, dipshit. Hell, your dumbass literally shits on whenever we get exactly that. “I like legacy characters and I’m a sucker for fanservice, but that’s not the remedy Star Wars needs.” 1. No one said it was. 2. Star Wars would have to need any remedy at all. “Look at The Force Awakens and what came out of that.” You mean a great movie with an even better sequel? Because that’s what came out of that. What didn’t come out of TFA though was fanservice. And again, TFA also gave you several new and interesting characters. Maybe you should try watching it

@mtgleam8723

3 жыл бұрын

There was no balance between fanservice and plot though. The fanservice is enjoyable if you're a fan, but of you're not what is there to enjoy in this show? Baby Yoda is cute I guess? The show has no plot or story beyond a surface level boring conflict between the empire we've seen a billion times. The new characters are all underdeveloped and it's sad because the show has potential. Mandalorian culture is interesting and a mandalorian cult is a cool idea! They abandon these concepts and go back to the same old that we've seen before. Send us to mandalore and let's see a mandalorian civil war! Clan warfare! Mandalorian history and prejudice. Nope, look at Baby Yoda, he's so cute! Essentially, the story is nonexistent. Some people use the excuse that it's an episodic series, but that doesn't work. The original Star Trek is an episodic show. Almost every episode had an interesting concept and idea along with cool themes and character growth. There was an entire episode where there's a planet with people who have half black and white faces, yet there's two types and each type has the black and white on an opposite side. To an outsider you couldn't tell the difference, yet each side was extremely racist towards each other and by the end of the episode the society destroys itself, the entire episode being a commentary on racism. The Mandalorian fights a monster or blows up some stormtroopers so he can get the part to fix his ship or the information to blow up the empire. Episodic stories are only good if the episodes have interesting ideas and concepts. Anyways this was a dumb rant but I feel I brought all the points of why I think this show is underwritten and overrated. Not bad, but meh.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@mtgleam8723 “There was no balance between fanservice and plot though.” There was if you actually bothered to watch it. Especially since there was very little “fan service.” “The fanservice is enjoyable if you’re a fan, but of you’re not what is there to enjoy in this show?” Literally everything else. It’s one of the highest rated shows for a reason, dumbass. And that reason is “non fans”. “Baby Yoda is cute I guess? The show has no plot or story” And now you’re flat out admitting you’ve never watched the show. Because this statement is a flat out lie. You deliberately choosing to ignore the plot and story doesn’t make it go away. The plot is very clear. Din sees in Grogu exactly what he was as a child. And he has to return him to his kind. How are you it grasping that? “beyond a surface level noting conflict between the empire we’ve seen a billion times.” Where to begin with the amount of lies there? First, you just contradicted your own lie that there’s no plot or story(while still getting it wrong). You’ve shown you can’t even comprehend a surface level, so that lecture is empty. And it’s not even the Empire. Is the cells that are left. “The new characters are all underdeveloped and it’s sad” It’d be a lot more sad if this weren’t a total lie. Because they aren’t underdeveloped at all. Then again, you’ve shown you don’t even have the brain capacity to grasp the plot, so expecting you to read character development was a bit of a lost cause. “because the show has potential.” And it’s been doing nothing but fulfilling that potential. You should try watching it. “Mandalorian culture is interesting and a mandalorian cult is a cool idea! They abandon these concepts” A Mandalorian cult is never brought up, so no. They don’t abandon it. And Mandalorian culture isn’t abandoned either. It’s literally THE SHOW. The show you haven’t watched. “and go back to the same old that we’ve seen before.” They literally never do this once. Is all you’re going to do here lie? “Send is to mandalore” We’ve been to Mandalore before. Several times. You JUST lied that we were getting what we’ve already seen before. “and let’s see a mandalorian civil war!” 1. They’re very clearly building to that. 2. Again, we’ve seen serval Mandalorian civil wars. You aren’t even being consistent with your own lies. “Clan warfare!” We get this in the show. You ignored it. “Mandalorian history and prejudice.” The show is literally in its infancy. “Nope,” Except Yes, as next to everything you’re pretending to want, YOU GOT. “look at Baby Yoda, he’s so cute!” It’s telling that that’s the only thing your tiny brain can comprehend.

Since Grogu's been taken by Luke, it could mean S3 becomes more focused since theyve cut with the force/Jedi aspect of the show. I doubt theyll stop bringing back old characters, but at least the Skywalker influence would be gone

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

I think I’m fine with Bo Katan sticking around as I could see Mandalore being a part of season 3’s plot, but everyone else can gtfo imo

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf Funny you say everyone else can gtfo, even though everyone who did appear in Season 2 was integral to Din’s story.

@CoolMyron

3 жыл бұрын

I dont see the problem tho. All the characters in the show have a reason to be there. Even Luke had a very big reason to show up. It was only 2 minutes of Luke.

@PaSistem32

2 жыл бұрын

Oh how badly this comment aged...

I treated Bo Katan and Boba and Ahsoka the same way I treated Mayfeld,to me they aren't 'legacy charcters' or any kind of attractions,just checkpoints in Mando's quest

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

I get that

To nitpick your nitpicks, I'm starting with there being 4 episodes in which established characters are introduced. You discussed the one out of four episodes, the one for Boba Fett, which no one debates was an episode for the fans. Sure that episode makes your point, but the other three DID have progression in Mando's character development. Bo Katan revealed to Mando that the culture and tribe he follows is a fringe group and has his Mandalorian views challenged. Ahsoka highlights his relationship with the child, she tells him about Grogu's training and past, provides him with what he needs to continue on the journey. You see the immediate effects of his interactions with Ahsoka when he has a heart to heart at the start of the next episode. Luke coming for Grogu is Mando not only fulfilling his mission and obligation to the child, as it is for the best of Grogu to get trained, but also he learns to let go of the thing he's probably held closest since he last saw his parents. And he breaks his religion to do it. All in all, we did see Mando having to contemplate his views and religion, and his relationship with the child Next I want to discuss your opinion of season 1, namely that what "made it so good" was that it had no connection to the main Star Wars storyline. I disagree, I think that was a characteristic of the show that ended up being refreshing, but you cannot say the show would be less successful if they were a bit more heavy handed in the first season. Secondly, the inclusion of Baby Yoda and the Dark Saber, as well as X-wings, the Tatooine pub, and the Imperial Walker, were very specific highs of season 1 that referenced and almost demanded further inclusion of lore. You can't not include Bo and be excited about the Dark Saber, you can't have a baby Force-user and not expect a developer Jedi to train him. In my opinion, season 1 also started slow because they wanted us to have no idea what we were getting into, and I think if they do what they do right, like they have this season, new fans can follow along and develop love for these old characters ALONGSIDE new characters, instead of having a divided fanbase. Lastly, your opinion about Luke, specifically him showing up to save the day. You say you would have preferred Mando take the kid to Luke himself. This doesn't make sense to me, as assuming Gideon never tracks Mando to Triton, Mando wasn't just going to have Grogu give him the address to pop into the GPS. They would've been waiting around for the Jedi to appear ANYWAYS. It makes more sense for Luke to use the Force to find Grogu than it does for the seeing stone to give Din coordinates or something. So again, I think this is a detail you overlooked. Additionally, I feel it was fitting for Grogu to leave with Luke without Din planning it, as it takes us from the highest of highs, to the most bittersweet. Din only gets to enjoy a few moments of relief and joy at Grogu's return, and right when it means the most to him, he has to let him go. It honestly makes good character development. I understand your issues. The show is starting to feel more exclusive, and mixing in with a wider universe you didn't want it to mix with. I figure with the folks helming it, perhaps you should've expected it. It was bound to happen.

@jonasdiaz8615

3 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree here with every point you’ve touched on. You’ve done so much better at explaining it than I could. One very underrated episode and character he completely ignored was Mayfeld from chapter 15. His mess hall scene is exactly an example of what iamthatroby focussed on and ignores. While he’d lrably focus simply on the reference to operation cinder (didn’t search it up yet but it’s not like that would mean nothing) he completely ignores the gray areas of mayfelds character that is touched on from the imperial side. There is character development and progression that he ignores completely since he sees the legacy characters and simply hates how few new characters are integrated here.

@RedDenim

3 жыл бұрын

Big agree on season 1's inclusiveness to things like the dark Saber and the Tatooine pub as being among it's high points. People dont realize it just because it didnt have actual legacy characters popping up

@210rebelboy

3 жыл бұрын

I forgot to mention it, but I also don't think the inclusion of Luke distracted from Mando and Grogu's moment. If anything, it emotionally compromised fans, put them in a vulnerable state, allowing it to sink in slowly that Luke's arrival means Grogu's departure.

@mistsofbabylon

3 жыл бұрын

Heaven forbid we should ever have any version of Star Wars that doesn't include Skywalkers. A galaxy of billions, yet all roads lead to Luke. It make little sense to me, and yet so many fans seem to think this is the most natural thing ever. But Star Wars is like Marvel now and has to have dozens of spinoffs. There were a million ways they could have handled character development that didn't utilize existing characters, but the showrunners opted for the path of least resistance. The one thing I'll agree with you on is that we should have seen this coming. I am kicking myself for believing it could have taken a unique path.

@210rebelboy

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistsofbabylon @mistsofbabylon I get that you didn't want it to be Luke, but I don't get how anyone expected the story to progress without the baby finding a Jedi to train him. And if you're going to have the story take place in the same galaxy and time period, what kind of hijinks would you have to pull to explain why Luke isn't present at all throughout the story? He didn't just vanish off the face of the universe. He just defeated the Empire, and they're back doing shady shit, so how could Luke not at some point catch wind of what was happening. And also, there's few good Force users that we actually know of in this universe, and to introduce new ones, in my opinion, would just detract from what the Empire had been doing, hunting down Force users amongst other things. There a reason the Force is considered myth by a vast portion of the galaxy. When it comes to training Grogu, Ahsoka has her own mission she's pursuing, Ezra is missing and is possibly in the Empire's clutches, and Cal would be a random addition at best, those writing his story have their own story to tell, I don't think the character is developed enough to get a satisfying 50 or 60 year old version of him. I feel having Grogu take off with any of them would make little sense. Lastly, in my opinion, it is better that they introduced Luke here and now and got him out of the way rather than to have him pop up in the future, and this sort of ties my whole argument together. One of the big questions most fans have been asking is where is Luke? This has just answered that question for the coming seasons and new shows, now we never have to question "is Luke going to show up to save the day?" Because he already has, and he's busy now training. Those who wanted Luke got him, and those that didn't can rest easy knowing Mandalorian and future shows won't have Luke popping in for no reason, because he's got his own mission. Also, if they didn't introduce him here and introduced him some time in the future, it would only open up more questions, why didn't Luke ever show up before, what has he been up to? Why is the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy not participating in the galaxy-shifting events that the Empire is responsible for. And if he didn't have the mission of training Grogu, he would probably be taking a more active role against the Empire and more present in the various TV series', which is something you don't want, and I'm sure the folks running this show don't want either. If anything, I think as time goes on, people will appreciate Luke's appearance more here, as it makes the most sense that he would show up for Grogu NOW, in the period of time he's trying to rebuild the Jedi. To have him be absent would be a huge plot hole, to the detriment of the show.

In my opinion the best character in the second season was Mayfield, and he gets not even mentioned here. How am I supposed to take this video serious?

@jonasdiaz8615

3 жыл бұрын

He’s focussing on the blatant example of boba fett and completely ignoring every other character and how they impact the character arc that din djarin takes... and yes chapter 15 and mayfeld was probably one of the most underrated and deepest episodes of the series and he ignores it since it’s squeezed in between the two episodes he focussed his distaste towards

@gabrielespana319

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonasdiaz8615 even many of the returning characters affect his arc, the only one who doesn’t really is Boba, Boba is there for his own sake and set up, Ahsoka is only there for one episode and serves both to teach Din a bit about the force and to highlight how his relationship with Grogu has grown. Bo Katan teaches him more about mandalore and the actual mandalorians, and provides some explanation as to why he can’t take his helmet off to fans providing some build up to him removing it more than once later this season. Not to mention her presence is essential for where the story is going to go due to the dark saber and it’s importance to her. And Luke, well he had all of 5 minutes on screen and of course he made the most sense when it came to finishing Mando’s quest with grogu, what other Jedi would answer the call? Cal’s status is unconfirmed, based on Ahsoka’s search for thrawn its clear that Ezra is still missing, Luke just makes so much sense as he’s the only major Jedi at the moment

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

You aren’t. This video sucks

@210rebelboy

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielespana319 interesting thing I just thought about Boba, maybe we're all looking at it the wrong way. In episode 6, as Din is looking through the wreckage of his ship, you can see that Boba feels a level of empathy towards Din, which probably leads to him deciding to help Din find the child. Maybe the reason we don't see Boba have an impact on Din's character is because it's happening the other way around, and Din is the one impacting Boba's views through his deep care for the child. Obviously we don't get to see something like that come to fruition within the season, but I wonder if the Boba we get in The Book of Boba Fett is one that has subtly changed due to his experience with Mando and crew.

@user-xx6vy9ri8p

3 жыл бұрын

Mayfield is pissed that Empire kills its soldiers who have family, so he does exactly the same.

Great video. I 100% agree. After finishing the season I was surprised with how little people had the same thoughts as me, and I’m glad that someone else feels the same way.

Imagine if in this season, The New Republic was hunting down Mando because of what happened in S1E6. But they just let him go, i get that he turned against the crew but he still aided them.

@CoolMyron

3 жыл бұрын

it's like a cop who should be arresting you but decided not to because your not a bad guy... i guess

THANK YOU! When they announced how many characters were going to be in this, I got super pessimistic. And I’m hoping that season 3 is more like season 1

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

Season 2 was already like Season 1

@cyborgdiego3454

3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw How? Because literally every character in season 1 isn’t someone from other Star Wars media.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyborgdiego3454 Neither is every character from Season 2

@cyborgdiego3454

3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw true.

I definitely get what you're saying. The show could be in danger of becoming too overwhelmed with pre-existing lore instead of forging its own. For me though, S2 was still very much focused on Mando's quest to bring Grogu to a Jedi. Bo Katan, Ahsoka, Boba and Luke are obviously going to excite fans and *maybe* distract them from the broader narrative, but in the context of this season all they did was progress the plot.

What you’re talking about is ‘fan service’ at the expense of anything ‘new’ and I would agree with you that it is a concern At its core The Mandalorian is very simple storytelling done well Going into the Season Final the main characters had to achieve 2 things - rescue Baby Yoda and find the Jedi to hand Baby Yoda over to Out of nowhere Luke Skywalker just shows up and solves both problems for them in literally the last 10 minutes I loved seeing Luke again and see Luke kick ass - but in terms of the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda - it wasn’t a very satisfying conclusion of either of their own character arcs - it was just too easy and convenient So I do understand your what you’re saying I do love the show overall - but I do agree with you

The way I see it this show feels like someone playing with their starwars action figures. The first season was playing with all those “peg warmers” as Dave Filoni puts it. Ugnauts, Blurrgs, an imperial officer, and one off color boba Fett. It utilized simple creativity to build a whole new corner of the galaxy in the same way New Hope did for the original trilogy. Season 2 has that same dna but with a larger scale. This time around the kid gets the cool bucket of toys where boom! We got Boba Fett, Ahsoka Tano, Bo Katan, and even a Luke Skywalker. And they continued to use their small figures but also decided to blend in the big ones. In my opinion the magic is still there. It makes use of the childlike imagination that made us all Starwars fans in the first place. Characters like Boba Fett no longer have “potential to be great” they can just “be great”. Do I wish they kept the scale small and contained? Yessssss. Did I think Luke Skywalker was unnecessary? Yuppp. But I also think there’s value in this type of storytelling that utilizes the familiar and where elements from all eras can collide. I hope season 3 is a bit more limiting but I quite enjoyed this season and Dins journey overall

my biggest issue with the second season was that litteraly nothing was a threat to the charackters i mean the main character has a armor that blocks litteraly everything. So basicly every fight scene is pointless cause nothing dangerous ever happens ever. Also the enemie troopers are so shit at everything that they basicly could have walked into the front door of an enemie base (which they do in the end anyway) and kill everybody without a problem. I mean this show takes place before the first order so shouldnt be the empire be somewhat on a winning streak i mean how did they take back the galaxy if an entire starship can get defeated by 4 guys

Ohhhhhh excited to hear your thoughts

I will say I grew to really like Bo Kataan and Boba Fett being on the show because A. they revealed more information about Mandalorian identity and culture, and B. they contributed to the plot in mostly natural ways. And I enjoyed Timothy Olyphant as Cobb Vanth. The other Legacy characters I really could have done without. Especially Luke Skywalker.

Great video dude.I loved Season 2 sometimes more than season 1, I’m a sucker for some fan service so I didn’t really mind. But what’s Star Wars without disagreement

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

thanks, Angus!

There was defently a lack of new original charaters in ses2, only ones that come to mind are the marshal (even tho he was an obscure legecy dude, most of us had never heard of him) from ep1, frog lady and i guess BillBurr cuz he was alot more intresting then in ses1. So defenetly lacking on that front

I always felt this was always going to happen a lot of what fans know in canon about mandalorians stems from clone wars and rebels and when they talk about the purge in season 1 I could tell they were planning to bring in some of the recent events having to do with mandalorians namely the war against the empire that has to do with bo Katan so i was not surprised when such characters show up also all the characters do push Dins perspective in knew ways so their is still some development but overall good vid!

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Davin!

Honestly, considering that two spin-offs are coming off this show, I’m thinking The Mandalorian is now Arrowverse.

@TheReubenthegreat

3 жыл бұрын

It's actually THREE spin-offs

@katherinealvarez9216

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheReubenthegreat dang, they’re not wasting time

When I started watching season 2 of Mando , I Loved the first episode Cobb Vanth and The krayt dragon , But as the season continued And Bo Katan and Ashoka Showed Up , I started getting disappointed Cause It was Easily predictable And Felt like Fan service , And because of this I Wasnt surprised when Luke Showed up , Some Contributing factors to why i didnt like the season is cause i was hoping it would be more of a Criminal Underworld style show , But they has to bring in luke thrawm ashoka and all that Stuff which takes away the spotlight from mando , And I Was hoping to see new characters Like we saw in season 1 , But Almost not a single new character showed up , only The same Ones we have seen already , Which makes the Galaxy feel small

I personally disagree about Bo Katan (and to a lesser extent, Boba) because she challenges Mando's notions of what a Mandalorian is, in the same way that IG-11 challenged his views on droids. And the conflict with the Darksaber is a really fresh and exciting idea. Ahsoka also did the same thing with Jedi and having someone who was pretty much at the centre of everything when the Jedi Order went to shit adds weight and context to the problem with sending Grogu away to train him. What bothers me is that the Thrawn namedrop was clearly just to set up the Ahsoka series, which cheapened her impact on the story and made everything feel less organic. I fully agree about Luke though and the way he wiped out the tension of the scene really bothered me, especially considering the sheer level of pandering with that parallel to the Rogue One Vader scene. I highly doubt that Grogu will be gone for long and I personally hope that something goes wrong with his training (such as the dark side starting to take hold) due to the fact that he needs a father rather than a master (which also caused the fall of Anakin) that leads to him being returned to Mando with some advice and a few lessons under his belt. I think Luke taking Grogu away is more of a cliffhanger than an ending and, hopefully, this season was just the Iron Man 2 of the series where all the spinoffs had to be sorted (unfortunately to the detriment of the season) and everything is great again in the third instalment. But what the hell will the Boba show be about? He just killed Bib Fortuna and took his house. He has no real enemies or conflict and running the criminal empire he just usurped isn't very "just a simple man making his way in the galaxy". TL;DR: I think that the legacy characters were mostly handled rather tastefully, but the backdoor pilot nature of certain moments really knocked the wind out of my sails and Luke showing up left a really bad taste in my mouth that I hope gets a bit less sour as we go into season 3.

@pupcornnerd

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I too was not cool with how those Dark Troopers were negated in a matter of seconds.

@jard0r

3 жыл бұрын

@@pupcornnerd Considering how Luke was clearly only there for Grogu, I don't think that the Jedi really care about Imperial remnants, so hopefully it'll get to the point where Mando with his beskar spear, Gorgu (if he gets a lightsaber), and whoever ends up with the Darksaber will be the only ones that can effectively deal with them, albeit with difficulty. The Empire is most likely going to become a big deal later on so I see them coming back and Mando helping out, perhaps in exchange for the retraction of his arrest warrants.

@pupcornnerd

3 жыл бұрын

@@jard0r Actually, I'm reminded of Mega Man X with this approach of showing a threat, showing someone powerful quickly dismantles that threat, then the hero aspires to become that powerful as the story continues. A weird reference for Star Wars but it could work to foreshadow how powerful Dinn needs to be to take them down.

@jard0r

3 жыл бұрын

@@pupcornnerd That's a good shout. There's inevitably gonna be a lot of melee combat over the Darksaber so I can see that happening.

I think a better analogy is that they cut their menu to a few niche items that appeal to a specific group of people.

Plot twist. The whole video was just a rant about goddamn pineapple on pizza, fucking disgusting.

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

it’s a crime - should be punished to the full extent of the law

@George-db1fq

3 жыл бұрын

Hello, I like pineapple on pizza, you should try it :)

Most people watching the Mandalorian have likely never Clone Wars or rebels.

@furynotes

3 жыл бұрын

You trying to say that they never watched Clone Wars and rebels. I would just tell them. Hey the Mandalorian is the same as those shows. No joke.

Agree 100%. The show still managed to save itself for me, as the finale was still very focused on Mando and Grogu's relationship. But the first season was proof that we don't need the classic Star Wars characters. We can have a great show without Skywalkers, without Jedi Order... I'm not excited for season 3, but I'm glad I still have season 1. A great episodic show about star wars universe.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

Literally the entire season was focused on Mando and Grogu’s relationship. “I’m not excited for season 3,” For literally no reason.

@paulodorea

3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw well, maybe it's because the show was a lot more concerned with promoting other star wars stuff than season one and the big reason that everyone loves this show (mando and grogu's relationship) is not going to be the focus anymore (it looks like). Im not saying it will be worst or bad. It might even be the best season, im just not eager to watch it.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulodorea Except the show wasn’t concerned with promoting other Star Wars stuff though. At all

The fact that episodes 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 all followed the EXACT same mold of "you help me on this little side quest and then I'll help you on your journey" is just pure lazy writing. And I'm not complaining about the episodic nature. The show could have taken it's time. Hell I would have loved a few episodes about him just tracking down good old bounties. Moff Gideon is a pretty bad villain. We get no backstory, no motivation. He just is a Darth Vader rip off who has no real character of his own. Mando is a good character, sure, but he's pretty much the only one (besides Mayfield who is a fantastic character). Greef Karga and Cara Dune don't really get much in the ways of an arc or anything like that, and the rest of the characters are either returning from other SW media or one off appearances. And to touch on the finale. I found it super underwhelming. First of all, the fight between Mando and Moff was super short and then just over. That's it? You build up a villain for 2 seasons and then you have one short mediocre lightsaber fight and that's just it? Now when I saw that he had some grand plan with the Dark Troopers, things started to get more interesting. It was actually shaping up to be a pretty good finale. But then Luke showed up. Once again don't get me wrong, I loved seeing Luke (CGI was pretty subpar but that's excusable and didn't really take away from my enjoyment that much). But he was such a deus ex machina. Just showed up, saved the day, ruined Gideon's plan, and slaughtered the Dark Troopers (on the Dark Troopers - they were built up to be some huge threat but then Mando just shoots them out of the ship and then Luke slaughters them all). Having an outside insanely powerful character just show up out of the blue and save the day makes the victory feel super unearned. The truth is, imagine if this show wasn't Star Wars. It didn't have the returning SW characters, it didn't have the franchise name and was not related in any way. It would be fine. That would be all. It would be a rather generic and cliche but entertaining sci fi show. And at its heart that's what it is. It has great moments and then some pretty awful ones. It has some pretty good characters and some pretty bad ones. But because it's Star Wars and because of the fan service (which I fully enjoyed) people try to claim it's some amazing show when it's really just not.

Have not even watched season 2, because I expect it to be even more streamlined and rehashing more nostalgia. Could be wrong though, idk.

I think season 2 had too much fanservice, so agreed. Sure, it's good to have fanservice after the disaster that the new trilogy was, but not at the cost of development. To be fair, Din Djarin did get some development in the last two episodes and it was beautifully done, but I personally wanted more from him. I also understand how they did this to tease other live action shows, but for some reason it still bothers me. I just hope that with Grogu out of the way he will get more character in the next season which will hopefully be about taking back Mandalore.

No threat, no danger, 100,000 stormtroopers endlessly attacking, and endlessly missing a crew of 4-6, NO PROBLEM.

I remember you tweeted to not watch this on an empty stomach and I thought you were joking... I'm so fucking hungry now and I'm blaming you

@troyoboyo17

3 жыл бұрын

But this is a very very good video you summed up all my thoughts about the season as a whole. I enjoy the "guest appearance" episodes on their own in their own vacuum, but all in one season it felt really weird. There was a lot of potential in this season for Din's character arc and I honestly didn't really feel like they moved him along very much in his overall story aside from just "the plot."

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

❤️

I really agree with you and I'm with you--the show got steadily more disappointing as the season went on. I don't think it's going to get better because it's already lost its "soul" as you called it. The show was much more Firefly than Star Wars, at the onset, but obviously set in the Star Wars universe. There really doesn't need to be some grand story--that's not what made the Mandalorian so good. What made it good, for me, was we got to actually learn something about a very seldom explored part of the universe: Mandalorians. Honestly, I really wish it took place in its own timeline--hundreds or thousands of years before or after the original trilogy, Knights of the Old Republic style. Oh well.

Althoug I did enjoy the Luke scene (r2 was a bit of an overkill, truth be told), it can be summarized as Deus Ex Machina meets Fan Service

I haven’t even watch season two but I saw clips and was just pissed off because this show is supposed to be gritty and more balanced in the narrative and it just shows the Empire getting owned and all the heroes are unstoppable and it just frustrating me because there is no suspense there is no competent villains, they basically go Star Wars Rebels in how they display the Stormtroopers and everyone and it gets old. Can we see competent villains, where the heroes have to try, not just use gadgets and insta kill everyone. And the constant throwback characters is annoying because I don’t like how they keep dragging on their story, like I would have preferred if Ashoka died to Vader like George wanted, it would have shown how far he fell, but no she comes back and survives. Ok then where was she in the movies? Why didn’t she help Luke? Boba Fett is cool but why make him a hero, why couldn’t he be hunting Din and Grogu? Like I am ok with fan service, but only if they do it correctly.

@hectordoblado4987

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Mando is pretty much a Pg-13, live-action Rebels.

Season 2 was literally set up for The Boba Fett show, Ashoka Show, Obi Wan show and probably some of the other Star Wars shows and God...DAMN that annoys me. They could have easily just made those shows and got people on board like they did with The Mandalorian, by making a incredible show. Instead they took a show that was great and just used it to set up other shows... Also there’s so much shit left open. Like is Grogu gonna come back?...probably yes because he probably makes a shit ton of money but that’ll just make this ending useless. Is Din now gonna rule Mandalore as he and Bo Katan didn’t fight. Also is this it for Moff Gideon? Like that’s it?

@MrRapmaster19

3 жыл бұрын

There was also notably some behind the scenes drama between Pedro Pascal and the studio, which could’ve led to the ending of the show itself. Hence, probably why they considered putting legacy characters and setting up other shows

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRapmaster19 There actually wasn’t notably any such behind the scenes drama. This is something that that piece of shit, Grace Randolph, thoroughly pulled from her ass.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

Where to begin with the amount of lies you’ve spewed. First, no. Season 2 was not “literally a set up for The Boba Fett show, Ashoka Show, Obi Wan show” or anything. You can’t say that something you’ve made up annoys you. Boba Fett only even plays a significant role in one episode near the end of the season, and said role set up NOTHING. The only Ahsoka related set up was a single line. And you’re just flat out lying about it being a set up for Obi Wan, as not only is nothing relating to that referenced, but this show takes place several years AFTER Obi Wan takes place. You are bad at lying. “Instead they took a show that was great and just used it to set up other shows” Except the didn’t do this at all.

@bennyhoward1391

3 жыл бұрын

@@RM-cn8pw bruh. Boba Fett shows up in one episode late in the game, does some cool stuff, and then does nothing else the rest of the season. And ffs the end credit scene LITERALLY SETS UP HIS SHOW. That Ashoka episode sets up the Ashoka show with her trying to find Admiral Thrawn. Both of those instances set up shows, even if you think they are too small to set up they are still set ups. Also you know that the Obi Wan show will show how Grogu survived the Jedi temple.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@bennyhoward1391 “bruh. Boba Fett shows up in one episode late in the game, does some cool stuff, and then does nothing else for the rest of the season.” You realize that disproves your lie, right dumbass? And either way, this is false, as he’s literally Din’s only mode of transport for the rest of the season, and is instrumental in him invading Gideon. “And ffs the end credits scene LITERALLY SETS UP HIS SHOW.” Yes. An end credits scene does. You’re really good at self owning. “That Ashoka episode sets up the Ashoka show with her trying to find Admiral Thrawn.” In a single line, you idiot. And you’re ignoring that she services the story of Din.

While I loved some of the season 2 episodes, episodes 1-3 of season 1 remain the best to me. I didn't want or need the Mandalorian to be inserted in to parts of a larger Star Wars story, especially when it seems like it may intersect with some sequel material.

SPOILER ALERT: To me, this season did what all great seasons do - improved on everything from the last one and rewarded the fans with amazing moments and brilliant scenes. The Ahsoka episode is easily my favourite episode of the entire show, and I cannot wait for her show! Boba was fantastic as expected, doing Jeremy Bulloch proud and I can’t wait for the Book of Boba. Din being the rightful king of Mandalore is also awesome! And Mayfeld’s scenes stole the show - of course Bill Burr is amazing as always! I get your points, but I honestly don’t really care about the fan service being fan service - to me as long as it’s done well then I’m happy. I also think the character moments are fantastic - particularly Din’s arc with his helmet and to me that all culminates in Bill Burr’s episode. I think it’s very well developed personally. There’s a difference between the way the sequels did it and how it’s done here. Here, it’s done respectfully and does feel fitting. Bo being there was honestly the best option, she is a Mandalorian who has a connection to one of the last Jedi alive so for them to go down that path, it makes sense. Sure, it was the easy route, but it works. Boba to me is the only one who is very much just thrown in, but I don’t care - he was done well. And Luke... while you could say it’s fan service, I think it was the perfect way to do it. It makes sense that a Jedi of his stature would be the one to help Grogu. It also gives Din a chance to grow on his own. Honestly that moment I had chills and it made feel like a little kid again. This honestly reignited my love for Star Wars and I cannot wait for the future. In Filoni and Favreau we trust!

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t get to touch on Burr’s episode, but that was fantastic

@mad_the_monk

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobyFN2169dtf yeah I agree - I definitely understand your points, I just think the way it was done was actually well done unlike something akin to the sequels. To me it’s a gourmet as I can get, but that’s coming from a very biased Star Wars fan so i totally respect your opinion.

Tbh I agree with you but to a much more negative degree I really didn’t like season 2 I did enjoy season 1 but the reliance on pre established characters and the awful delegation of focus in the episodes for the second season really just ruins it all for me the big thing I want is just the universe to expand and your first line of saying the first season showed that Star Wars is not tied to the Skywalker blood line sums up my favourite part of th first season very well great vid and great assessment of the show I’m glad someone has noticed the flaws of season 2

I mean, literally most of the audience doesn't know these are legacy characters. Only Luke. And that's it. People don't know Cobb Vant, Bo Katan or Ahsoka Tano. And they can still watch it without thinking the show is being overrun by these characters. Bo Katan, previous Mandalore leader, fits perfectly in this show focused on a Mandalorian character. Ahsoka was a way to introduce Din to Grogu's past and bring more weight to both characters' decision to leave. With Boba, we don't know where that character is going. And Luke just made sense for the end.

@TechnologicallyTechnical

2 жыл бұрын

+Leonardo Rafael Videos I think most people who are familiar with Star Wars know who Boba Fett and Ahsoka are.

@leonardorafaelvideos8020

2 жыл бұрын

@@TechnologicallyTechnical Not really. Unless they're big fans, they really don't know who Ahsoka is. She's a character that had never appeared in live-action or mentioned in any of the movies, which is what most people watch. The General Audience doesn't know who Ahsoka is. I never said they didn't know Boba. Yet I'm sure a lot of casual fans might not remember him very well.

@TechnologicallyTechnical

2 жыл бұрын

@@leonardorafaelvideos8020 Word gets around though. I never watched Clone Wars and am generally a more casual Star Wars fan, but I've definitely heard of her quite a bit over the years. I think older audiences, say 40 and up, probably aren't familiar with her, but anyone who likes Star Wars and regularly uses the internet has probably heard of Ahsoka.

@leonardorafaelvideos8020

2 жыл бұрын

@@TechnologicallyTechnical Yeah, but that's precisely what I'm saying. I'm sure some casual fans know who the character is. But the General Audience does not. Just try and talk to anyone who's familiar with Star Wars but is not a “fan” so to speak. Only recently I found out some of my friends thought Grogu was Yoda and that The Mandalorian was set many years before the movies. The General Audience watches the next big popular movie/TV show without really following it. It's the type of audience that can't tell DC and Marvel apart. And they don't know who these characters are. They watch The Mandalorian because it's Star Wars and has a cute baby used in memes.

I completely agree! I watched 'The Mandalorian' season 1 because it was a story set in the Star Wars universe without being 'Star Wars'. I liked that it showed the effects of the Empire falling and it expanded the world. Season 1 was so successful Disney decided to use season 2 as a backdoor pilot season and it was annoying. Din was no longer the main character. He got pushed aside for all the legacy characters to show up. My favorite episodes of season 2 were when we spent time with the original characters from Season 1. The people who I met and grew to care out during the first season. There were only 2 legacy characters I really liked: Cobb Vanth & Boba Fett. I liked Boba because I have been wondering since I saw the first Star Wars why everybody liked him so much. I've never read any of the books and he was so underused in the movies so I didn't get it. Seeing him kick ass in this show made me understand. But I will agree he just kind of appears. Yes he's bad ass but he doesn't do much outside of that. I like Cobb Vanth because of his dynamic with Din and also Timothy Olyphant is charismatic as hell. My only critique with that episode is the voiceover during the flashback. One thing I really liked about the first season was not everything had to be verbally explained and the moments where there was no dialogue at all. Having Cobb narrate how he got the armor while they showed it in flashback really took me out of the moment. There are so many hardcore Star Wars fans that loved all the fanservice in season 2 but I honestly came to the show looking for the misadventures of a single dad in space. When they started to introduce so much lore it took the fun away in my opinion. I hope they actually focus on Din next season now that they used this season to get their other shows off the ground.

If the only "existing character" in season 3 is Bo Katan and they focus the season on retaking Mandalore and finding other Mandalorians then it's ok

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree. I mean what’s the show called after all?

Completely agree. As someone who didn’t really enjoy the original trilogy I loved The Mandalorian because it was grittier and didn’t require too much knowledge about previous entries in the Star Wars universe. This season really disappointed me because instead of feeling like a stand-alone exploration of the universe it felt like constant nods to previous pieces of Star Wars media which was completely jarring.

Great video man, I agree on the pizza place analogy. Have you heard about Batman v Superman getting remastered with a new colour grading and IMAX aspect-ratio next year?

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

BVS remaster is going to be LIT

Rob: There aren’t any original breakout characters Me: *angry frog noises* Great video dude as always👍🏼

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe I didn’t mention Frog Lady :(

Season 2 feels like half of it is filler and fan service. But the show is some of the best Star Wars content we've gotten recently, at least in terms of consitency. The sequel trilogy has its moments but is overall lacking. The 2 spin off movies were great though

Oh my god. Somebody who gets why I don't like the show. I didn't care that luke was their at the end either. Its just another rogue one.

Finally someone who talks about how the shows story isn’t really the best.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that this isn’t true

@nathanbricks7837

3 жыл бұрын

Your too good I change my mind, the story is great.

@BadTimeBabble

3 жыл бұрын

Story and writing in this show is not very good. Lots of dumb people doing dumb things. Next to no character arcs. The 'emotional' scene at the end literally comes from nothing. Mando and Baby Yoda barely has any scene where the two of them connect. The silver ball is probably literally the only moment. Neither learn anything from each other, neither grow. It consists mostly of Mando worrying about him but with no reason why other than... He's baby Yoda. The whole show is about setting up other series for Disney. Totally agree with the Luke thing. He's there to just be there. It would have been nice for Mando to have to deal with giving up Gorgo for a series whilst searching for Luke. Maybe trying to outrun Luke as he doesn't want to give him up would have been nice too. Luke is fan service just like the whole show is. Don't get me wrong, I love fan service when it's earned.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@BadTimeBabble It’s genuinely amazing how every single word of this is a lie. “Lots of dumb people doing dumb things.” Literally none of this in the show. “Next to no character arcs.” This is just a flat out lie. You know you going out of your way to ignore character arcs doesn’t make them disappear, right? “The ‘emotional’ scene at the end literally comes from nothing.” You’re lying through your teeth yet again. It literally comes from a whole season of buildup. “Mando and Baby Yoda barely has any scene where the two of them connect.” Now you’re just admitting you haven’t watched the show at all. Practically all they have is scenes where they connect. “The silver ball is probably literally the only moment.” Unless you watch the show that is, and see it’s not even close to the only moment. “Neither learn anything from each other, neither grow.” Yet another bald faced lie. To say Din doesn’t grow is to not have watched the show in any capacity. He’s not even remotely there same person now as he was at the start. Grogu literally challenged everything about him and what he believes. “It consists mostly of Mando worrying about him but no reason why other than... He’s baby Yoda.” Again, if you had watched the show, you’d know this to be a lie. The actual reason that you’ve intentionally ignored is that Grogu is essentially Din. He’s a foundling, just like he was. By creed, he is his to look after and protect. This is made crystal clear to anyone with a working brain.

@RM-cn8pw

3 жыл бұрын

@@BadTimeBabble “The whole show is about setting up other series for Disney.” Here you are lying through your teeth AGAIN. Because not even ten percent of the show is about this. The show is about telling the story of Din Djarin. Stop ignoring it. “Totally agree with the Luke thing. He’s there just to be there.” Not even close. He’s there because he was the goal of the whole season. Din had to return Grogu to a Jedi. Luke’s literally the only one alive at this point in time. “It would have been nice for Mando to have to deal with giving up Gorgo for a series whilst searching for Luke.” That’s literally what this was, you fucking idiot. “Maybe trying to outrun Luke as he doesn’t want to give him up would have been nice too.” That makes no sense on a multitude of levels. “Luke is fan service just like the whole show is.” Again, no. Luke is not fan service, and if you had ever bothered to watch the show, you’d know that it isn’t either. “Don’t get me wrong, I love fan service when it’s earned.” Clearly not, as you’re shitting on exactly that.

I couldn’t disagree more.

@psychomantis7836

3 жыл бұрын

nice. your trophy's in the mail

@davidgeldner2167

3 жыл бұрын

@@psychomantis7836 Wait so he makes the whole video about his opinion but I’m wrong to disagree? Stfu.

@KhalilSiddeeq

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidgeldner2167 I mean if you disagree that's fine but if you don't back that up with why you disagree there's no real reason for anyone here to take you seriously

@210rebelboy

3 жыл бұрын

@@KhalilSiddeeq find my comment in the comment section

@tvuser1

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

Agree with all you said, buy you're just giving into the problem of Star Wars being driven by nostalgia and familiarity by calling Grogu "Baby Yoda". It just further proves that fans' entitlement pushes Disney's decisions as much as, maybe more, than creators. And that's just kinda sad. He's never called Baby Yoda on the show. He's not Yoda. The creators say "This is Grogu" and fans go "No. You're wrong about your own creation. It's Baby Yoda." That attitude is basically what Star Wars fandom has become. (Sorry for the rant. The name thing was just an example of my overall frustrations lol) Long, but pretty damn compelling: www.vulture.com/amp/article/the-mandalorian-season-2-finale-star-wars-skywalker-saga.html?__twitter_impression=true

“there’s a way Luke appearing in this show is good and at all in your face.” I know. It’s what they fuckin’ did. “this just wasn’t the way.” This was exactly the way. twitter.com/iamthatroby/status/1341145964149653511?s=21

I loved this season, but there was just a little too much fan service. They should have spread out all of these huge cameos over a couple of seasons. Almost every single character that fans were asking for appeared, soooo now what? Spread out those huge fan service moments, and fill in the blanks with more Mando and Grugo. I couldn’t help but feel Mando was overshadowed

Like many others hard disagree. I teared up at the end when he took his helmet off. Din has evolved so much as a person/character. He was basically a cold killer from a cult and just let go of the one thing he cared about more than anything. It's also smart if you are going to do side quests anyway to test characters out and see how people react. Next Season I think will be the last of this part of the story but I doubt it will be what you want, I think it will lead to a huge war scene with ships/mandalorians fighting for the planet. So I think it's going to echo some of the action of the main films. To me the season was a 9/10 the only episode I did not Enjoy was episode 2 because it was a another monster episode after we had a much better one just one week before. But even then it's not a bad episode I just didn't care for it and the season to me was almost perfect.

I totally agree!! I enjoyed season 2 and didn't think the finale was completely bad. But your analysis is spot on!

Star Wars fans just can't admit to themselves that they want Star Wars in their Star Wars. They hate that Star Wars is Star Wars and wish it was different than Star Wars, but still want it to be Star Wars at the same time.

@bakaboo1212

3 жыл бұрын

well put!

5:31 really? I was like “oh! He is an actual character, with a personality and a code and stuff.” Yeah, I never cared about Fett but I liked that Din had allies.

Great video! While I enjoyed most of the episodes this season that ending just didn’t sit well with me. I think most of the returning characters this season had a somewhat transformative arc (except for Ahsoka and Luke) so I was fine with their inclusion. Cobb Vanth’s inclusion was a highlight for me. That being said, setting up 3 spin-offs through the course of one season did feel kinda cheap to me lol. The execution of Luke’s cgi was pretty stiff and I couldn’t even enjoy it on the merit of the performance alone. It really ruined the moment between Din and Grogu for me. I think the only good thing about including Luke is that I can rest assured that the baby has to come back, In any case, I do hope Favreau has some sort of endgame in mind. The show was about the father son relationship for me, so I’m not that hyped for season 3. Then again, they had me hooked by the end of chapter 1 so maybe I’ll come around on it.

10:08 i thought SO MUCH that this was sponsorship talk

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

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I gotta say that I don't care that there aren't any "breakout" characters in season 2. It doesn't have to have a bunch of new characters to be good to me. I liked seeing characters I already know doing new things and going on new adventures. That's all this show needs to be, new adventures in this universe.

yup that summs it up pretty well

I personally loved this season up until the finale. I felt like each episode had an energy behind it that kept me engaged. Season 1 was kind of boring to me until the finale 2 or 3 episodes. Luke showing up took the wind out of the sails for me. I think because I've loved seeing Mando get out of situations without the Force. Even though they really set up those dark troopers to only be able to be killed be a light saber. I'm still excited for season 3 and I'm really interested to see how the Dark Saber plays into the show. That's probably the main threat that had me intrigued at the moment.

Is no one concerned with how the season finale kinda breaks the continuity of the sequel trilogy? Of course if Luke trains baby yoda Kylo Ren could have easily killed him when he destroyed the Jedi school. But then why even make this show in the first place if it has no implications or real connection to the main story??

The 'legacy charcters' didn't distract me from Din Djarin because I love him more than all the other characters

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

we need to see Pedro pascal’s beautiful eyes more next season fr

It really wouldn't make sense for the legacy characters not be there

@hectordoblado4987

3 жыл бұрын

I kinda think they started by wanting to add those legacy characters and just figured out a way that they could fit on the show.

@CoolMyron

3 жыл бұрын

@@hectordoblado4987 Dave just wants to bring back Legends. Which might mean the Vong or Abeloth in the future. But it makes a ton of sense for all these characters to show up. Might make no sense without them.

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I hope the next season is a prequel to the series that shows how din came up in the ranks of hunters in the parsec. I think obviously his carbonite catches from E1 S1 are a good place to start. Maybe show how he got the scariff armor and beskar helmet? I personally am very exited by those pre beskar tales. What do you think?

Great video and I still don't understand the sorta weirdly lopsided like:dislike ratio.

I completly agree. Its not that the fanservice is bad handled in the mandalorian.Its just that for the first time Star Wars proved that IT could be something different from vader and Luke and IT kinda threw that away .

The ideal is one legacy character per season

Agreed completely!

i think this season was necesary, i mean: Disney+ needed a push, so, why not use this season to keep the people suscribed while we develope a lot more of that old characters in their own shows to have Mando as the real protagonist again in the next season?

Anybody else get an ad for The Mandalorian when they clicked this video?

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

Disney 🤝 iamthatroby

I kinda disagree. Here why. -The Bo Katan episode purpose is for Din character development. It's made him question his beliefs. (Especially his helmet tradition thing) -The Ahsoka episode help us know more about Grogu and it's show characters development between Din and Grogu -I think you right about Boba but i don't see it as a problem since he didn't stop the plot from moving forward anyway. -For Luke, he is our main character goal since season 1 and because of him we get the see the reaction between Din and Grogu.

Your worries for season 3 were precisely my worries going into season 2. And as a critical yet unabashed SW fan I have to say season 2 vastly exceeded my expectations. I feel like episodes with ahsoka and Bill Burr were kind of filler but other than that I don't think it can be honestly said that the other legacy characters didn't advance the plot, aside from maybe Boba Fett. But my fandom forgave it; his send up is undeniably badass. Luke literally is there to separate baby Yoda from Mando. Yes, your Mando-centric ending idea might have had its own emotional impact, but the unexpected nature of Luke showing up to separate the two packs a hell of a punch that definitely affected me and many others. I love the content you produce, my dude; keep it up. But I feel like this thesis comes off as more contrarian than anything else.

People disliking the video before even they watch it fully

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

that's youtube for you

It’s stupid how people embrace dins real name but not grogus

I 100% agree!! I was never a star wars fan (didn’t really love the prequels and the sequels were just unnecessary since it got us to nowhere) but i started watching the mandalorian because it was independent from all the skywalker show. It showed me that there were other stuff going on in the universe and I loved the first season but the 2nd season felt so hollow and just too crowded - i wish they didn’t use this season as to boost a million shows. And the already-known characters just stole the spotlight and we didn’t get to learn more about din and explore his relationship more with grogu. I’m not really looking forward to s3 at this point because it lost its magic for me and i was disappointed with star wars yet again

Thanks for this. I'm not really happy with where Star Wars is going right now (like you said, too many legacy characters) which seems to be in line with where Disney and Disney+ is going, so I'm not surprised if it's some kind of executive decision from Disney. I'm just annoyed, man, it could've been so special.

The problem with iamthatroby: calls little G, baby yoda

Really? Each episode had Din doing at least something of value even more than season 1. Half the episodes in season one were completely inconsequential and had more characters that had no stake in the larger story. You can't just have the entire show just be Mando just going from planet to planet doing random sidejobs while he's aimlessly searching for someone to take care of grogu. For me and a lot of people I know, it gets repetitive and predictable pretty quick. Each episode in season 2 added some sort of weight and expanded the scope of the show while also giving a lot attention to mando's character. He legitimately changes throughout the season. For me, I think that this show perfectly handled fan service and nostalgia because everything that happens is also completely natural to the world and the story. The show is called "The mandalorian" for christ sakes, why wouldn't it introduce Bo Katan or boba fett, two complex individuals with their own unique backstories and that have direct ties to mandalorians in general. Luke and ahsoka being there also serve to add more to grogu's character than just him being a cute little green guy with powers. I don't get why you're nitpicking and complaining about a star wars show openly embracing and taking advantage of being in the star wars universe.

@aribafaheem7847

3 жыл бұрын

Um I disagree. A lot of the episodes this season just felt like fetch quests for Din. “Oh you want to find a Jedi for the kid? Help me in this side quest and I’ll send you to someone who will do the exact same thing I did”. As for Bo and Boba, I don’t mind their inclusion but it is weird that Din only keeps meeting the mando hall-of-famers.

Roby, where rhe fuck arr you ? I fucking miss yah😭😭😭

I feel you should do a video on arthur christmas and why it a great christmas movie

The title should have been my problem with the season because i find it great

Good point. As yet I am to see season 2. Got a tad pissed they fired Gina. But you made good points, I subbed.

Let's be honest, the Mandalorian would be less than half as popular as it is today if it wasn't live action and had Grogu. The Clone Wars is a much better show imo, yet it still gets overlooked by the Mandalorian, despite TCW being the predecessor and introduced/fleshed some of the returning characters. Even though I'm not a huge fan of Rebels, I also think it gets overlooked. The Mandalorian is quite generic, and its original characters are all flat and boring. The plot of each episode is basically the same, and it's quite predictable. Half the time, it feels as if it has an overarching goal, yet the other half makes it seem like it's an episodic show. If it chooses one, I'm fine with it, but it's just so inconsistent. The plot was just "let's go to this planet, oh no they need help! *beats up bad guys* ok let's go to another planet because this person told us to." And EVERY SINGLE EPISODE when the main characters are in a tough spot, at the PERFECT moment, someone else comes in to save them. It happens so often that I just roll my eyes and facepalm to it. I'll give some examples off the top of my head. SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (for season 2, I haven't watched season 1 in a while so I don't remember much) 1. Chapter 10, the spider things are making their way through the Razor Crest, and right when it seems like all hope is lost, the two New Republic pilots come in and rescue them. 2. Chapter 11, when Grogu got eaten up by the monster, and Din is stuck under the ship, Bo Katan and her gang come up and rescue them. Then again, when Din seems like he's in trouble, they come back and kill the bad guys in a second. 3. Chapter 12, when Cara and Greef and the fish dude are in trouble and they're about to get killed, Din comes in and saves the day, taking out the TIE fighters that were chasing them. 4. Chapter 15, when Din has to fight off another 30 or so pirate dudes, and he's worn out and probably wounded too, TIE fighters come in and rescue them. 5. Chapter 16, when the Dark troopers are making their way through the door, Luke Skywalker comes in and decimates them all. You see what I mean? This is over half the episodes in only season 2, and I'm probably forgetting some more stuff too. It gets so predictable, there are little to no stakes, and it's just flat out boring. If you take away the things that it's feeding off of (returning characters, Grogu being cute, and it being live action), it would get basically the same amount of praise Rebels does. Literally the only reason why I enjoyed season 2 was seeing the returning characters. I don't care for the original characters. When Grogu left with Luke, I didn't care. In fact, I was happy that he was gone. Baby Yoda/Grogu was the only reason the Mandalorian got attention from casual fans, so when he was taken away, I was happy to see that people now have to watch the show for the actual plot rather than Grogu. Lastly, Ahsoka. Appearance aside (I wasn't a huge fan of how she looked, but I'm willing to look past those flaws), I think they changed her a lot compared to when we last saw her. Her character seemed to honestly have regressed Rebels. You know how we always refer to Ahsoka and Kanan as what the Jedi SHOULD have been? I feel like they made Ahsoka more of what the Jedi WERE rather than what they SHOULD be in the Mandalorian. I don't remember Ahsoka killing anyone in Rebels, and she didn't willlingly kill anyone in The Clone Wars season 7 either, despite who the opponents were. Yet here, she's chopping them up left and right, almost like an assassin. It feels different. There are some more things, but I don't know how to say it, so I'll leave it out for now. Ight thanks for coming to my TED talk. I got carried away again, so sorry for the long essay.

This is show is something you watch once and try your best to not think about it when your watching it 😂

When I saw season 2, I was praying they were going to make Boba Fett the main villain as a heel twist in the final episode. It would've been perfectly in line with how Boba Fett should be, a cold, hard badass all out for the money. He betrays the team for selling baby yoda to the Empire and tries to get Djinn and his team heads for the credits. Maybe he kills Bo-Katan and her guards. maybe he kills Gina Carrano's character. Because Boba ISN'T a Mandalorian. Not really. but he is Jango's son. It would've also worked with all the fanservice of Boba leading up to this; we know he's a serious threat now. He's gonna kick everyone's ass. This also would set the stage for season 3 to be a classic Western revenge story and it would've been Mando V Mando. The True Way vs The Fraud.

Luke Skywalker is the ultimate Star Wars hero, he is the super hero who doesn't get the same amount of attention as, for example, a comic book super hero. Fans had to wait decades to see Luke again, and he was so mistreated in the sequels. I get wanting to keep the attention on Mando and other characters, but seriously, they can all take a back seat to Luke, he deserves it, and in 2020 and beyond, the fans deserve it. Hope.

@King_Conan

3 жыл бұрын

I get that you like the Mandalorian, and that's fine. But it seems as though you don't understand why so many fans hated the sequels and Solo. It's like you don't understand Star Wars.

I’m so glad that somebody else agrees with me

@RobyFN2169dtf

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m here for

My major problem with Season 2 of The Mandalorian is that while yes, the appearances of Bo-katan, Ahsoka, Boba, and Luke are pretty great, it was a bit much. The season was bogged down by these appearances that it forgot who the main character was and why we even wanted a season 2 of the series. It's like how the Force Awakens focused so much on fan nostalgia and things we were so familiar with that they forgot to add anything of their own. I wanted more Mandalorian, not fan service. Edit: Season 1 is The Mandalorian a Star Wars series while season 2 felt like Star Wars: Friends of the Mandalorian.

finally.. finally someone who has the same opinion as me about season 2

As someone who knows nothing about Star Wars but really enjoys this show, I gotta say this whole season was so confusing to me. There are all these characters that I've never seen before but get little to no introduction because we're already supposed to know them. But I gotta admit that aside from that I still really enjoyed this season.

finnaly someone who agrees with me

I liked the finale, but the ending is like the opposite way that the show should go. It’s a wolf and cub story, about a man raising a child who is not his own. Last of us 1, Road to Perdition. I’m worried about where it will go next, and if tearing the heart out of the show has left it with no soul

@herecomesthatboy1961

3 жыл бұрын

I'd much rather they have the balls to resolve it in a timely manner rather than have us all be here in 5 seasons time getting really tired of it.

Actually i disagree......i mean, first of all, i‘m pretty sure they planed Boba Fett from the beginning in a Mandalorian Series, i mean, that‘s so obvious, also i guess they planed Luke. The biggest thing they did is actually let us wait until season 2, that‘s Fan Service done right with a big buildup. and then you overlook all that stuff from the first season........they could have easily made the child any species that exists in that universe, but they went with the same as Yodas, then Bounties frozen in Carbonite, AT-ST Walker in your fav. Episode, IG-88‘s Cousin in Action, Jawas with their Sandcrawler, Scout-Troopers that are bad at aiming, Din‘s Jetpack, the Dark Saber, i could go on and on, thats the same stuff that you think is bad in the second season, but isn‘t any different in the first, none of these would be so fun to watch without the knowledge of the original movies or the Clone Wars series. Best thing about these things are, they‘re so well woven in to the story that they also work for non Star Wars fans, but the nerds who know all the easter eggs will be pleased by the max.

Skywalkers can't keep their greedy shitty paws from every Star Wars film