this is the first actual modern tank vs tank combat footage where you can see both visually

@user-dv7hq2rh4g

Жыл бұрын

There was at least one tank on tank ambush by Ukrainians on a Russian tank + IFV convoy with everything visible in the early days of the war. But it's indeed something that has only very rarely been recorded and is therefore quite interesting.

@GM-xk1nw

Жыл бұрын

there was one in Syria

@redcrewmate927

Жыл бұрын

Where can you find these combat footage? I can seem to find none so any help please?

@Accuaro

Жыл бұрын

@@GM-xk1nw Link?

@ovencore2549

Жыл бұрын

@@redcrewmate927 4chan?

The existence of the video suggests that the Russian commander had the benefit of the same drone view as he commanded the battle. Squad leaders are managing their unit while looking at these screens and micromanaging their men to tell them look left, right, rush B etc. The benefits are tremendous.

@bubbles190

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think the drone is in the air, your viewing pleasure?

@FakeSchrodingersCat

Жыл бұрын

There have been reports of both sides having close drone support for some tank units since around June though there is some debate over how widespread and at what command level they are being deployed at.

@MunyuShizumi

Жыл бұрын

I lost it at "rush B"

@CFox_

Жыл бұрын

@@MunyuShizumi ikr i just died with that xD💀

@zuruumi9849

Жыл бұрын

@@bubbles190 Well, propaganda is certainly a part of why the drones are recording the footage.

A soviet tank vs soviet tank. Imagine telling this to a Soviet person in 1980s.

@Tracer_Solos_The_TF2_Verse

3 ай бұрын

a soviet republic vs soviet republic*

@matthewjones39

Ай бұрын

@@Tracer_Solos_The_TF2_Verse🤓

@MegaTubetraveller

Ай бұрын

Maybe, the person'll be able to understand, that the war is against the nazi system and "Bandera's people",supported by the "West", though, not without civilian victims.

@user-ee9vr1zk2v

Ай бұрын

А теперь попробуйте об этом сказать украинцу. И вы тут же станете рупором Кремля 😂😂😂

@shulcer2006

Ай бұрын

Ogaden War

Playing video games (war thunder) and seeing this, knowing what is happening inside a tank when it get hits. Give me chills just imagining when your inside that tank.

@archravenineteenseventeen

Жыл бұрын

Its actually a moving coffin

@jasoncarswell7458

Жыл бұрын

T-64 sees a T-80 coming. "We're probably about to die."

@pellman87

Жыл бұрын

"Breech has been damaged!"

@kewintaylor7056

Жыл бұрын

God; Dont fear son death isnt that frightening…u wont feel a thing when the tank got shot… Its would be just brief….whoooshhhh….boom I means u didnt even hear the boom sound and then u come to me. 😂😂😂

@a---------------

Жыл бұрын

they dont feel no pain

Imagine the distress and fear in both of these tanks.. and then a sigh of relief that youre not dead

@Alex-dq6vo

Жыл бұрын

Man, I really do wonder what it feels like to sit in a tank and take a round from another tank to the front, where most of the armour is. Must be terrifying, especially knowing that they see you while you don't clearly see them.

@OliverFlinn

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex-dq6vo id imagine your ears must be ringing for hours, if another shot doesnt come in and take you out.. but hey, its a quick death at least.. your brain wont even register the ammo cooking off

@OlegVulkanov

Жыл бұрын

there is no fear in Russian tank, Komrade

@Cali4niaDreamin

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex-dq6vo You're usually vaporized on spot & have to be hosed out afterwards if the vehicle gets recovered & taken back to the motorpool.

@owenllewellyn5692

Жыл бұрын

@@OlegVulkanov Vodka kills fear- no good for fighting a war though.

All of this wouldn’t happened if steiner had conducted his counter attack

@MatthiasDrinksH20

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@mateuszk3812

Жыл бұрын

also none would happen if Piłsudski decided to fuck France opinions and just seal club Moustache Man Germany (when it still had barely 100k soliders) before dying.

@eslSlightz

Жыл бұрын

Steinerov was sent to Kherson to protect the flank from Steinerenkos assault!

@javidmurvatovYT

Жыл бұрын

Steiner couldn't mobilise enough men

@pabcu2507

Жыл бұрын

@@javidmurvatovYT nonsense, with the power of hitlernium, he could’ve achieve victory

cant even begin to imagine the extreme relief you must have felt when the other tank is taken out and you realize your coinflip deciding if you live or die ended up with you alive and you get to live for one more day in a hellish war. rip to the dead tankers who werent so lucky.

@kennyplop

Жыл бұрын

apparently an AT missile hits the surviving tank as it reverses in the rest of the recorded vid, not gonna look for confirmation of that myself but do be an L to win and then loose the flip

@blackpaint9093

Жыл бұрын

@@kennyplop nope, fake news

@Benjy68Kill

Жыл бұрын

@@blackpaint9093 source ?

@blackpaint9093

Жыл бұрын

@@Benjy68Kill give me the source video of what he claimed. There is none

@delsgade

Жыл бұрын

@@kennyplop Source: Trust me bro

Great illustration of the value of vision in tank combat (or combat in general... see enemy before they see you tends to be a great method for survival)

@avadhutagita3741

Жыл бұрын

Tanks drove so close to each other not because they couldn't see each other, but because the trees prevented them from making an accurate shot at the target. Ukrainian T-64BVs have been modernized, they have thermal imagers, it's not bad tanks. T-64BV tanks have no problem in visibility, this is not about that at all. It's not WWII, not Vietnam, not Afghanistan, not Iraq, not Yemen. Which tank you're sitting on almost doesn't matter in this war, because era of tank battles ended with WWII. Most of the tanks in this war were destroyed by artillery fire, atgms and kamikaze drones(especially ukrainian tanks). For a drone and artillery, any tank is food. Tank battles account for less than 1% of all destroyed tanks. Even helicopters destroyed 10 times more tanks and other vehicles in this war.

@exginto8053

Жыл бұрын

And teammates never place wards

@backisgabbeYT

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! It's the reason Sweden decided to buy the Leopard 2. The indigenous Swedish tank concept was similar to the T14 Armata with all the crew in a box using cameras to look around. They realised that firstly, Sweden didn't have the technology or expertise to make the tank and secondly that it was impossible for tank crews to have good awareness without being able to look around themselves. Apparently it messes with the human brain to just use screens.

I guess we can't really rip on War Thunder tank combat being unrealistic anymore.

@user-pb2th3tc8u

Жыл бұрын

Hmm ... Hover a Drone right behind your Tank. 3rd Person View.

@tackytrooper

Жыл бұрын

It never was. At the Battle of 73 Easting, one of the largest tank battles in modern history, the engagement range was roughly what you see here. As a general rule, the engagement range of any tank battle is subject to terrain, weather, sensors and all matter of other conditions. It could be measured in tens of meters or thousands of meters. A smart adversary that isn't equipped with the best sensors will seek to engage at the closest range possible so as to nullify the enemy sensor advantage. But, if the traverse speed, projectile tech and crew skill aren't there, they will likely still lose...

@haplessfurball5497

Жыл бұрын

you then realize Russian tanks don't have spalling turned on in their ammo carousel in wt

@argy007

Жыл бұрын

@@user-pb2th3tc8u Or a camera on a long retractable pole.

@eliasziad7864

Жыл бұрын

@@tackytrooper I think Iraq won that battle, they destroyed many abrams, but the US counterattacked and overwhelmed them with airforce and tanks.

To think that stuff like this was only confined in War Thunder just about a year ago and seeing it happening in reality in this year is just crazy

@qui-gonsgin8747

Жыл бұрын

Yes it feels surreal. Just like that all the men of the tank crew are dead. For what? These conflicts are complicated and we as humans are faulty to let a escalation like this happen, where innocent suffer. Of course some are to blame more for than others, the ones which act as aggressors and escalate things unnecessarily instead of searching a more peaceful and diplomatic option. One thing you can say for certain is that the unnecessary loss of human lives and wars in general are just terrible and it needs to be prevented at all costs. (Edit: Changed some of the text, because I originally wrote it so that it seemed like it's unclear who the main aggressors of this conflict are.)

@CrucialConflict.

Жыл бұрын

They just uploaded the rest of this video clip, all the Russian Tanks get destroyed by anti Tank missiles when they go in reverse.

@torvalis1968

Жыл бұрын

@@CrucialConflict. where can i find that?

@CrucialConflict.

Жыл бұрын

@@torvalis1968 kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqOkzM2Fg8nOd5s.html The Sun news channel

@Leo-bw7mg

Жыл бұрын

​@@CrucialConflict. Fake news

To know there were 4 people in that tank and they all burnt to death is very depressing

@grudgebearer1404

Жыл бұрын

T-64bv has 3 crewman, also, while turret crew is most probably screwed it isn't always the case and the driver has good chance of surviving unless the shot hit the lower front plate

Excellent situational awareness by the Russian crew knowing what they were up against and getting a good line of sight shot on the T-64, which probably had no idea the T-80 was even there because it lacks a thermal sight, the crazy close range shows that.

@GuardDog42

Жыл бұрын

If they had excellent situational awareness this entire exchange probably wouldn't even have happened.

@michaelbruce6190

Жыл бұрын

@@GuardDog42 and you say this why? It's very obvious the Ukrainian vehicles were probing way before the engagement took place, so the T-80 knew who and what they were up against because they didn't sweat the T-64 at all and moved up slowly to get line of sight on the Ukrainian tank.

@GuardDog42

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbruce6190 it's not obvious at all, in fact it's SOP for russian federation mechanized infantry units and armor to screen with artillery fire after contact with basically anything. From the looks of things I imagine the Ukrainians were basically watching the road at that moment while moving about hoping they didn't end up on the receiving end of indirect fire. if the russians knew what they were up against why would they push the point in close quarters when they have the advantage at range in both vision and firepower. If the other vehicle was quick on the draw even without thermal they could have so easily landed a shot almost instantaneously. If the treeline was easy to see through why wouldn't the russians just shoot while their flir could see and the enemy's antiquated optics couldn't? Because they just didn't know, this was very clearly an oh shit moment, I think they knew the enemy was there sure, they just didn't think they were anywhere near that close. I think the russians pushed because they thought they were peeling and wanted to push the point. If the russian vehicles knew exactly what they were up against there would be no reason not to stagger your approach away from directly where the enemy vehicle was looking. Armored war just isn't conducted at these ranges like that. What we're looking at is fear, panic, and confusion. With fire superiority you just don't park a tank a hundred feet from another tank to capitalize, that's not a tactic that's an accident.

@okakokakiev787

Жыл бұрын

Russia has extreme advantage in tanks. It shows that they try to force a fight

Lesson from this video: third person view is a must in combat.

@Rosaslav

Жыл бұрын

Yeah a drone would be very nice to have for the tank commander here.

This video highlights the value of modern thermal sights and the value of drone ISR assets, the russians knew there was a single enemy tank and what type it probably was, and knew they had a sensor advantage and were likely to get the first shot, which is why the crews were willing to maneuver as confidently and aggressively as they did. For example they only pushed the Uke tank with a single tank despite having a numerical advantage they were confident they would be able to get the first shot on target.

@murmenaattori6

Жыл бұрын

Without an IR sight finding the target via visual range would have taken several times longer in such an environment. Even knowing that a tank is in front from the drone information does not fully account for occlusion via foliage, smoke etc.

@christopher5723

Жыл бұрын

@@murmenaattori6 having been a gunner on a Bradley fighting vehicle I agree 100% there's a good chance the Uke tank never even saw the russian in the final engagement.

@mystictomato9466

Жыл бұрын

They probably were also confident that their armor would hold up even in case they didn’t get the first shot. Ukranian T-64BVs use really old ammo and have an outdated cannon. I don’t think it can penetrate the front of a T-80BVM at any range.

@JRyan-lu5im

Жыл бұрын

Basis of the 1st Gulf War armored turkey shoot.

@murmenaattori6

Жыл бұрын

@@mystictomato9466 Even still armored protection is never guaranteed. Not every spot has composite behind it nor can reactive armor cover the entire tank. The lower armor glacis and turret ring are notable weaknesses which could be penetrated even with older kinetic penetrator and hollow charge ammunition. Pure high explosive can also disable a vehicle due to the high amount of explosivr filler for the 125mm HE ammunition.

For us in South Africa we fought T64 and T72 tanks at very close range due to the bush. That was in the Angolan war

@louisduplessis7110

Жыл бұрын

@@Ben-ek1fz thanks for the correction Joseph.

I loved this highly detailed review of this battle!!! I really need to know what different tank shells look like when hitting other tanks and this is really helpful. Thanks again

Ukrainian War single-handedly reviving large-scale armoured warfare.

@CH3TN1K313

Жыл бұрын

exactly, and I love how people (shills) tried pretending the "war in Ukraine is the end of armored warfare", when it's been shown again and again that each sides success heavily depended on the success of their armored forces. The problem with most couch potatoes and keyboard warriors is that they spent the last twenty years watching modern forces fighting literal Tatooine sand people from Star Wars, while Ukraine is the first war between near peer adversaries.

@donaldhysa4836

Жыл бұрын

@@CH3TN1K313 People really want to be "The Deboonkers". A lot of people like tanks and think they are very cool so these guys come out of their basement being all like " I need to debook this and look very smart!" Pathetic delusional creatures.

@mrguiltyfool

Жыл бұрын

@@CH3TN1K313 with drones and atgm tanks are kinda no longer the king of the land

@thunderbug8640

Жыл бұрын

@@CH3TN1K313 For tank warfare this war only proved what people have known since the tank was invented. How you use the tank is the most important part of the tank. It is interesting to see just how near peer this war actually is considering at the start of it, on paper at least, it was a bit of squash match.

@saint_alucardwarthunder759

Жыл бұрын

@@mrguiltyfool the outdated ones - maybe. Guess what, 90% of modern tanks are somewhat outdated - APS was a thing of 1980s-1990s, just like ERA. Yet we see T-72s without APS and Leopards with completely naked sides, not to mention that neither of NATO tanks have ERA on their roofs against whatever missile, coming from helicopters or drones.

This is the most warthunder battle ive ever seen

@Nave4x4

Жыл бұрын

Russian bias, am I right? xD

@chargemannyn2918

Жыл бұрын

they only won because they had artificial spal reduction, smh smh 😒

@CombatArchive_1

Жыл бұрын

@@Nave4x4 real game has none, it's just what people say to cope with there massive skill issue. 😂

@thanatos5642

Жыл бұрын

@@CombatArchive_1 yeah sounds like a skill issue

@juliuszkocinski7478

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen top tier repair costs and line up?

I have to say, the footage from this conflict has been unlike any other in history. Never thought I'd see that recorded.

First explosion on the tree line could have been a shot from one of BMP-3s judging by how high from the ground it went off.

@solid_fire9388

Жыл бұрын

what the tanks can't aim up from that distance ?

@vovin8132

Жыл бұрын

Could have been a frag round meant to disable any infantry before getting the T-80 into the treeline

@Andrey264

Жыл бұрын

@@vovin8132 it is

@helbent4

Жыл бұрын

@@solid_fire9388 It would make more sense to have the BMP-3s rake the trees. This way the tank isn't caught while reloading, or with a frag in the breech when APFSDS or HEAT is needed.

@lelandgrubson2736

Жыл бұрын

Bro the tree was still intact

At most 3 lives had been burned away at that moment there, condolences to the families of the fallen.

@samuelbullard8978

Жыл бұрын

@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] Bro look at youre username. Get a life.

@kristofantal8801

Жыл бұрын

@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] Typical Russian troll or bot clown... :D

@oogie493

Жыл бұрын

@Dust ah yes and when its Russians dying everyone says "hAhA OrCs deAd sO FuNnY SlaVa BraZiL"

@paint_black

Жыл бұрын

that's the saddest part. dying for nothin(

@Modman1288

Жыл бұрын

​@Dust nice try snowflake!

3:24 that smoke performed a heart shape😂

@nemiw4429

11 ай бұрын

It was the tank crew last heartbeat 😢. Im really angered that Ukrainians die for NATO. People say Stalin was crazy. But what about the US, that slaughtered millions post WW2. That used chemical warfare in Vietnam.

@nicolaskayer2684

Ай бұрын

@@nemiw4429 xXD

I don't think it will be a blind hit because, as you said yourself, the t80 has a thermo-vision, which is a serious advantage in low visibility and not the hottest weather. But if you were saying that, referring to the situation in general about long-range shooting, then yes, I totally agree. It's not what we're used to seeing in games.

F for T-64 (it got uptiered)

@ahmedthewahhabi

Жыл бұрын

lol

@oogie493

Жыл бұрын

Ivan (T-80BVM) ⁍ Igor (T-64BV)

@axender4508

Жыл бұрын

@@oogie493 damn russian bias again

@scorpiontdalpha9799

Жыл бұрын

@@axender4508 That is true though T80 is younger and more advance than T64

@alahsiaboi8909

Жыл бұрын

@@scorpiontdalpha9799 joke timmy

Glad to hear about the tank having such bad close range vision. If you didnt know that you can easily come to a wrong conclusion. Thanks for sharing, Charles

@dragancrnogorac3851

Жыл бұрын

Sitting in the bush and shooting rpg7 after rpg7 is tank killing tactic since ww2. Like there are stories where one tiger, sherman, nashorn, Jackson are parked in bush and just shooting down 10-30 vehicles unspotted... I'm tank driver... I think noise and just being on 30 hours shift is just... You don't know your name let alone there is something 1 km away in the bush... Training is extremely hard, after 24 hours you sometimes pull full right turn instead gear up, track pin is broken and all 3 of us are completely pissed because of situation... Tank training is hard, add possiblity to be killed (never been there) must be molind bogling hard

@verstappen9937

Жыл бұрын

Queue the “vanya-and-five drive by each other” meme

@nickvanachthoven7252

Жыл бұрын

people really dont understand how blind you are inside of a tank. even the most modern tanks are virtually blind to everything under 100m

@wirrwarr8834

Жыл бұрын

@@dragancrnogorac3851 The cause of 3,670 main battle tanks that were destroyed on the Eastern Front in January 1944 could be determined: by Panzerfaust: 58 (= 1.6%) and by Panzerschreck: 9 (= 0.25%) I think you need some sleep badly! ;-)

@dragancrnogorac3851

Жыл бұрын

@The Bear you know how little difference make actuall killing thing. It was killing tanks 70 years ago, it is killing tanks today... Pancerfaust, rpg7, štugna, javelin... Same effect on tank just different manufacturing date on weapons and tanks

T80bvm not only op in war thunder, but also irl.

Awesome analysis RedEffect 😎

actually crazy. this is essentially a knife fight

@sumtingwong2138

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting way to put it

@chargemannyn2918

Жыл бұрын

ehhh more like throwing darts at eachother a few feet away

@voidwalker9223

Жыл бұрын

no its a tank fight

@kanestalin7246

Жыл бұрын

No it's a gun fight

@jtmann2002

Жыл бұрын

Yup, exactly like a knife fight… if you were throwing, throwing knives, and those knives exploded on impact. Sure

It's insane that modern tanks would engage at such a close range!

@VeganerHippie

Жыл бұрын

The Chaos of Battle, the Fog of War. Those are reasons.

@FlinnGaidin

Жыл бұрын

"Modern"...T-64s are 50-60 years old, and T-80BVs are nearing 40 years old.

@gabenewell3955

Жыл бұрын

@@FlinnGaidin the Abrams is 40 years old what's your point?

@anhduc0913

Жыл бұрын

​@@gabenewell3955 Yea, and the abrams can engage from such a distance that back in the Gulf War the iraqi tanks(pretty sure it was T72, just a tad bit more advance than T64) could not even see them, much less shoot back. Though it is worth poiting out that despite being 40 years old, the Abram does get alot of upgrades in its electronics and vision.

@FlinnGaidin

Жыл бұрын

@@gabenewell3955 the _earliest_ production Abrams are around that old, yeah... what's _your_ point?

I always thought tank warfare like this was always stuff of the past like WW1 and WW2 like Tigers going up against Shermans and in modern games like Battlefield, and War Thunder, seeing stuff like this is both fascinating but at the same time depressing and tragic to watch, knowing the crew of the tank who got hit most likely didn't make it.

@KoeSeer

Жыл бұрын

tank battles do happen in modern day, like in Iraq or Afghanistan during US invasion. But it's much more smaller in scale because techs are going forward fast.

@dleechristy

Жыл бұрын

toasted hellishly

@user-oh8qx7os7o

Жыл бұрын

I think modern war is still a lot like ww2 surprisingly

@brandonh.6654

Жыл бұрын

TRULYTRUE TRUE, I agree with you completely absolutely and I agree with your perspective, SOCIETY has a FLAW, it can only MAXIMIZE ARMOR, ONCE, after that, SOCIETY can only MAXIMIZE PENETRATION, We reached PEAK ARMOR COMPOSITES AND COMPOUNDS in the ENGLISH 100 YEAR WAR, with PLATE ARMOR, we never saw useful armor since, it’s basically designed now to give you a small chance of survival without guarantee it will happen again or at all actually, we will never have armor ever again that exceeds penetration values

@nickstubbs3785

Жыл бұрын

And when all the modern hardware is lost we carry on fighting with bayonets, the modern is temporary and works it’s way back down to hand to hand combat in the end

I would have never expect to see the video of a tank battle in 2022. This footage are incredible but also very sad whatever you think about the war now there are mothers crying the death of their young children used as a crew for a tank.

@barryoverson4988

Жыл бұрын

unless you are Russian they write you off as a deserter

@Castragroup

Жыл бұрын

Yet you think its great sport to see russian troops geting obliterated. You make me sick

@Tamburello_1994

Жыл бұрын

In the age of the cellular phone and internet, nothing surprises me anymore.

@derkernspalter

Жыл бұрын

@@Tamburello_1994 Actually it surprised me that it took seven months to get a clip like this.

@Tamburello_1994

Жыл бұрын

@@derkernspalter I'm a cold war kid when grainy, retouched photographs was all one could ask for. Still shocks me to this day the access available -- at one's fingertips I might add.

The Russians had the drone operational and had info on the enemy, the operator could have been someone in the bmps. Imagine the leading tank having a video feed of the drone, info via radio communication can't match that. The Ukrainians probably had a drone of their own nearby because they seemed like they had info on the Russian tank movement and actions, just no line of sight due to the inferior sensors to engage.

@pvtj0cker

Жыл бұрын

During daytime, you could spot and engage a tank from miles away using the gunner's optical sight. This is in an AMX 30-B2 which is an old tank. At such close ranges you don't even have to rangefind. Just send it where the reticle is and watch the fireworks.

@thelordofcringe

Жыл бұрын

@@pvtj0cker the AMX 30 can't see through a treeline without thermals...

@ukuskota4106

Жыл бұрын

They could not have the info. There is some problems with different frequencies of tank radio and troops radio. The same like in US army when they put telephone booth at the back of tanks to have troops-tanks connected. So could be that tanks had drone info and could be not.

@f1aziz

Жыл бұрын

Both Russians and Ukrainians are known to use jamming extensively. This could have been a situation where Russians had the situational awareness and Ukrainians did not, otherwise it's baffling to see a solitary Ukrainian tank prancing around and not backing the fuck out of there while two Russian tanks followed by the two BMPs racing towards it in broad day light.

@billwhoever2830

Жыл бұрын

@@f1aziz the Ukrainian tank although much older had a gun that could kill the more modern tanks. The Russian t80s would probably outperform the Ukrainian tank at medium or long range. The decision to try and kill the tanks at close range might have been made. Ukraine has done other such close range attacks, killing the leading mbt and stop the apcs it was escorting. In this case there were 2 russian mbts making it more dangerous.

That ukrainian tank driving backwards and forwards like it's some video game

@nemiw4429

11 ай бұрын

He shud have taken cover behind the destroyed tank behind him. But what do you mean "like a vide game". What is he supposed to do, if trees block his view? Like i said, best option would habe been take cover behind the other tank, only leaving the gun visible.

@I_hunt_lolis

10 ай бұрын

@@nemiw4429 I used to play world of tanks and war thunder way back and tanks used to always drive forwards and backwards constantly no throw off opponent's aim so he either misses or hits something he wasn't aiming for. It was a joke referencing that

In this day and age, I don’t get why all tanks/armored units don’t have a dedicated drone scout the area, especially when operating hatch closed. I know it’s an extra person or an extra role that someone has to fill, but it seems like an overwhelming advantage that they are not utilizing as often as they should. Awareness in a tank is a hell of a lot more important than armor/firepower in my opinion. Knowing where they are, where they shouldn’t be, where they should go, positioning and being able to pick and choose when and where to engage or retreat, etc. is exponentially more decisive than having a better tank. Had the Ukrainian tank had the same drone scouting the area they would have seen that this was a losing fight (2 superior tanks vs 1) and could have easily maneuvered themselves behind the cover of trees/foliage and retreated to fight another day.

@GoldWulfMusic

Жыл бұрын

Interesting analysis

@liwojenkins

Жыл бұрын

"There is a partly justified criticism that peacetime generals are always fighting the last war instead of the next one." [20 November 1937] W. Churchill - Time doesn't repeat but it has a kinda circular rhythm.

@dylanaquilina862

Жыл бұрын

As far as I know Recon drones are used for commander's to get operational awareness or small ordinance drops. ideally it would be useful for every squad to have a drone but they would need to have a full production line for drones. A majority of drones Ukraine has are predominantly donated by civilians. So my best assumption is they don't have enough.

@fabulous9502

Жыл бұрын

could give away tanks position/ awarenes of a possible tank

@kokodayo5796

Жыл бұрын

Drone isnt that invisible to see Yes it will give great view advantage but also revealing your position and give the enemy a heads up that there are enemies nearby

I want you to know that some WW2 AFV's reversed faster than these tanks

@rolandb2108

Жыл бұрын

Average Sd. Kfz. 234 flexing its reverse gearbox

@bell3287

Жыл бұрын

@@rolandb2108 Before it broke?

@cisarovnajosefina4525

Жыл бұрын

@@bell3287 better question: Where oil

@BigMek456

Жыл бұрын

@@bell3287 Never broke, was very reliable

@sam8404

Жыл бұрын

And some were slower. It's not like all tanks back then had the same reverse speed.

He should have not only wiggled back and forth but also done more side scraping and set the graphics option to minimum to remove the foliage.

@Spudmuffinz

Жыл бұрын

Didn't wiggle the turret during reload, probably bought into the premium tree

@ocelot6101

Жыл бұрын

Bro got uptierd he had no chance. We clearly need br decompression.

@camronrapp4146

Жыл бұрын

Should have side climbed

@khordad1216

Жыл бұрын

... I hate (fuking love) this game...

@junkers66

Жыл бұрын

Probably (that only 5% overall usage) gold ammo was used here.

First time watcher. Great vid, great explanation and technical knowledge. Thank you.

The worst place to stay nowaday in the war is inside of a tank.

This looks slow motion to everyone else but to those in their tanks this is mind bendingly fast.

@whatfreedom7

Жыл бұрын

I imagine all 4 guys or however many it is all screaming at each other.

@eddierodriguez8463

Жыл бұрын

@@whatfreedom7 probably not far off from sounding like this kzread.info/dash/bejne/dm1h2NGCfqnRc8o.html

@unfairbullet

Жыл бұрын

@@whatfreedom7 3

This would be so terrifying. I pray for the survival of anyone in this war. Whether it be Russian or Ukrainian

@Maza945

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasw695 NATO doesn't have friends, only vassals

@iMost067

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasw695 Putin asked to join NATO in 2008, was rejected because thet way there would be no reason for NATO to exist

@kthec1298

Жыл бұрын

amen

@spetsnaz7979

Жыл бұрын

@@iMost067 against China honestly

@spetsnaz7979

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasw695 that would be nice

Someone's son or father died right there, Think that as you watch the tank burst into flames and take its crew with it... What a horrible way to go

@juliomaldonado4028

Жыл бұрын

I hope they bought the battle pass.

@jokerbattle7331

Жыл бұрын

This what war does. It creates mother without sons and daughters without fathers.

@sketchy5085

Жыл бұрын

@@juliomaldonado4028 What a massive L of a comment

@kmriifps

Жыл бұрын

Right way to think about such horror, rip 🕊

@Tyber_gsk

Жыл бұрын

Better to die like this on the battlefield then by fucken drunk driver on the street.

The Russian tank charging foreward for a better shot an getting the kill seems like a good realization of the proverb "Fortune favours the bold"

I’m mostly a jets guy I can differentiate fighter jets and what make and lettering they are. Like you can with tanks and even sub variants and your explanation was great. Tank on tank warfare at that range would be extremely stressful.

@paint_black

Жыл бұрын

not exact. ukrainians got no chances to escape. nazists, that controls and terrorizes their country (guess who paid this pigs again, huh), just placed charges inside the vehicle and welded ukrainians conscripts inside. so they just had no options. that's why they had to fight even against the whole tanksquad. that, what's really stressful.

@user-es9iv3vv7b

Жыл бұрын

Танк сратих московитів знаходився знизу на вигідній позиції, по друге ціль була не одна. Слава Геройам!!!!!!!!

@paint_black

Жыл бұрын

@@user-es9iv3vv7b eng pls

@-_Hatred_-

Жыл бұрын

@@paint_black, he said oink oink

@renascitur7051

Жыл бұрын

@@user-es9iv3vv7b Cope harder

Lost sight, lost fight. Thanks for this very good analysis. I have never regretted subscribing to your channel. Keep it up, you're doing very well

@JeanLucCaptain

Жыл бұрын

Outnumbered and Surrounded, Combined Armor Doctrine Dignified!

imagine the mental toughness required to man a tank, nevermind driving one into battle, over a minefield, artillery and drones.

It's crazy that it's a war in 2022 and we still see mainly T-64-s, T-72-s, T-80s. It just shows how much more weaponry were produced in the cold war era than in nowadays.

@tackytrooper

Жыл бұрын

This is Russia burning through its cold war stock. Its new production is not on the same level though in terms of volume, not even close. If Russia survives this conflict intact with some kind of economy, it will take it decades to replace the losses it has suffered. Most likely, for a time it will become an infantry-centric force, and will have to revise its doctrine simply due to the lack of available vehicles.

@MyUnoriginalUsername

Жыл бұрын

Also that these tanks all used to be in the same military a few decades ago.

@sergeyboychuck8872

Жыл бұрын

i have news for you - almost all NATO tanks are 20 century production. i have a much bigger news - 90% of world tank fleet produced more than 30 years ago

@FlinnGaidin

Жыл бұрын

Russia has dug up even older T-62s to send to Ukraine, as well. When will we see T-34s? 🤔

@tackytrooper

Жыл бұрын

@@FlinnGaidin I highly doubt there are even a significant number of T-34s well enough preserved to be returned to service.

Wow, this kind of footage is very rare !!! Only other thing that compares is the duel between the M26 Pershing and Panther at the battle of Cologne. There are lessons that can be learned here, situational awareness is KING.

@Pepe-dq2ib

Жыл бұрын

how will twitter spin this so its ukraine destroying a russian tank?

@markosimic6634

Жыл бұрын

Would you post a link of that video

@smoldoggy1005

Жыл бұрын

The Germans had the advantage of camping so they knew where it was and already had their gun set on it, they just didn’t know if the Pershing was a new German tank so they didn’t fire

@oldguy217

Жыл бұрын

@@markosimic6634 kzread.info/dash/bejne/nHxk2Zuyl726ecY.html

@wargamingrefugee9065

Жыл бұрын

@@markosimic6634 Search for "Sherman vs Panther vs Pershing" on spottydog4477's channel.

Great analysis 👍

Fantastic information and video

It's a scary thing knowing that there is a tank in front of you and you are being in the tank and seeing maybe just in front of u depends what seat you are in... And the most scary thing is when you know there is enemy tank but you don't even see it throught your glass...

@g.k.1669

Жыл бұрын

I have been tanked many times. The worst part is the hangover.

@osososd

Жыл бұрын

@@g.k.1669 Ffs

When I first heard you mention backward speed I thought you're exaggerating, it can't be that important. Then I played War Thunder. Oh my God is it important! If the speed is low you feel like your legs are tied and a bear is running towards you.

@Tamburello_1994

Жыл бұрын

Wanting to get out of trouble just as quick as you found it isn't a bad thing.

@EasyAL_YT

Жыл бұрын

That's a dumb Analogy; whether your legs are tired or not, if a bear is running towards you, you are fucked. Whereas if you have good reverse speed, you are not so fucked.

@colonelarmfeldt8572

Жыл бұрын

The reverse speed is important since turning around is suicide in an open battle (weak rear armour).

@halo129830

Жыл бұрын

Play enlisted bro it’s becomes even more important

@Valkyrie_Yukikaze

Жыл бұрын

As a Japanese tech tree player，both Type 90 and Type 10 have great reverse speed. With Hydrolic system that good for hill battle；I can often dodge shots and ATGM from a long distance. Or simply take a shot then reverse down the hill. I also have Soviet top tear and yes，T72s reverse speed is cancer. I usually just turn and running while smoke or backward a bit then turn and run.

this is the second time a close tank duel was recorded the first one was in cologne by Panther and a Pershing

great video. thank you

Target Destroyed +2,000 SL +200 RP

@DirtL

Жыл бұрын

+ According to Intelligence

Excellent analysis, mate. Thank you.

This is probably the most clear tank on tank footage ever taken. It's taken from a position above the battlefield. Both tanks are in view the entire time.

Nice breakdown brother

From what I can scourge through telegram the vehicle behind the T-64 was a Ukrainian Bmp-3 that was abandoned, the T-64 was present there to provide cover to the retreating crew of the Bmp-3 but got taken out instead

@Nyarlatha

Жыл бұрын

Those are T-72s...

@essaalnoon1768

Жыл бұрын

@@Nyarlatha Mf watch the fucking video

@SteelheadCrusher

Жыл бұрын

If it's a BMP it's destroyed not abandoned.

@wOrLdOfEaRlY

Жыл бұрын

A 5:41 you can see that it is an BMP-3. The open crew hatches on top are clear visible.

@hansgielen3511

Жыл бұрын

If that is true, it makes it quite harrowing. Imagine making the decision to help others, knowing it might be your end.

5:54 , the ultimate WT add transition be like...

@realtissaye

Жыл бұрын

💀💀💀💀💀

Great work my boy 👍

If you ever see this, did they engage the vehicle behind the T-64 (and behind a bush) ... as is visible at many times, but specifically you can go to 5:10 then about 33% from the top right (aligned with the left edge of the left wing)..?

"Drive me closer, for I want to hit them with my sword!"

That Russian crew must have felt like being in an action movie

@aksaraylicelali

Жыл бұрын

@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] I don't believe we have any good guys in this movie just Ukraine's western cannon fodder and Russia's desperate attempt to counter west

@triadwarfare

Жыл бұрын

@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] not really. Can't call invaders good guys

@aregulargenericname8794

Жыл бұрын

@Cultured Anime Waifu [Russian Waifu] What is good and bad? A hypocritical system we humans made for our self interest, why is something "good" or "bad" ?

@justaperson1619

Жыл бұрын

@@triadwarfare how are they invaders?

@colonelarmfeldt8572

Жыл бұрын

@@triadwarfare That account is a bot I see him in every comments section posting generic comments like this. No point replying to it.

Four years as an armored crewman (19E / 19K), I believe it was a H.E.A.T. round because a F.S.D.S. round is 3 times faster and makes a much brighter flash when it strikes an armored vehicle rather than a fireball effect upon impact. That happens afterwards when the munitions inside explode!

@RedboRF

Жыл бұрын

agree

Is someone making a war movie. Is this a new oscar winner? Luke everything is recorded. People dying and other filming. How far did we come

When you pointed out the T-60’s periscopes and abysmal view, I surprised the tank commanders just viewing outside the tank like most WWII tank commanders (only problem is that enemy infantry have an easy target/drones to target)

That t64 had a 500% booster

@moozer

Жыл бұрын

kek

@seanmohammeddewitz1891

Жыл бұрын

😂

@General_Rubenski

Жыл бұрын

@@moozer its 2022 and people still use "kek"? Bro still living in 2015/16

@alexcarrara8140

Жыл бұрын

@@General_Rubenski kek

@DirtL

Жыл бұрын

@@General_Rubenski kek

Bro got uptiered

5 seconds battle scene, 6 minutes about what tanks are in the battle....

Really enjoyed this breakdown you kept it simple but didn't leave out anything important great video brother

Tank combat must pretty scary for the crews, knowing that whoever shot first would most probably survive and your family might not even be able to get proper dead body.

@dave_sic1365

Жыл бұрын

That's how almost all tank ob tank combat is. Whoever sees first will shoot first and who shoots first will most likely survive

@DirtL

Жыл бұрын

Most likely, but doesn't have to. First shot is always nice though

@davidyu3815

Жыл бұрын

​@@81Heino You don't have to worry because while you are talking here on youtube, your UkrainiaNAZI regime soldiers are being turned into WORM FOOD by Russians. Talk is cheap, keep talking son, because Putin might aim a nuclear missile at YOUR HOUSE NEXT TIME. And if you enlist and join those UkrainiaNAZI soldiers, YOU WILL NOT BE LEAVING UKRAINE ALIVE. ---------------------- Not quite, according to U.S (UNITED STATES) Department of Defense reports studies, the U.S Javelin ONLY has a 19% chance HIT RATE in the Russian - UkrainiaNAZI war. A ATGM like the Javelin with a LOW HIT RATE like that is HOT GARBAGE. Also, the CANADIAN MERCENARIES who have fought in Ukraine reported RUSSIAN TANKS have SENSOR THERMAL imaging devices capable of seeing FARTHER than the RANGE of Javelin ATGM sensors. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rIJmsMaidq2smJM.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5uLu6Sfosu6nNY.html In fact, a Russian tank saw a Ukrainian soldier smoking from a loooong distance and FIRED ONE SHELL and wiped out 3-4 Ukrainians. When another Canadian mercenary named WALI attempted to engage the Russian tank with the Javelin ATGM, HE FAILED because the Javelin ATGM sensors CANNOT DETECT and ENGAGE the Russian tank.

@jazzandbluesculturalherita2547

Жыл бұрын

Armor not supported by Infantry is asking to be destroyed.

@KDU_1

Жыл бұрын

@@81Heino заткнись сволочь. За эти слова ты ответишь сука!

T64B vs T80BVM... Very hard for T64

@Phantom-bh5ru

Жыл бұрын

stood no chance (got up tiered please decompress Brs)

Someone just died, and here we are geeking about it

It is really heartning to see how young men, on both sides, are losing their lives for greed, stubborness & enrichment of the coorporate elite.

@jimr5703

Жыл бұрын

Except that this conflict was started when an oligarch like Putin decided to invade a sovereign nation. Should have dealt with him when he took over Crimea, and reversed illegal the border incursions/expansions in Georgia as well.

@1pinkmann

Жыл бұрын

Young men on the Ukrainian side are defending their land against russian fascists, who came with the war

@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851

Жыл бұрын

@@jimr5703 If you think that the responsibility of this conflict soley lies on the shoulder of Putin alone & oligarchy is limited to Russia, then it means you are seeing one side of the picture. Just dig out the pre & post Ukraine Russia war armament sales globally & check out who tops the list.

@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851

Жыл бұрын

@@1pinkmann Indeed but it isn't as simple as you are suggesting. The destruction of Ukranian state equally lies on both Russia & the West. This conflict can be averted through dialogue but certain Western stakeholders doesn't want that to happen. The proof of which is 2014 Nuland-Wyatt leaked call.

@1pinkmann

Жыл бұрын

​@@muhammadshehreyarkhan1851 Dialogue is impossible. Ukraine won't let russia take even 100 meters on it's territory and will fight until boarders returns at state of 1991year.

That's an incredible video! The only other similar thing that comes to my mind is the Cologne duel. Also idk why but it gives me war thunder flashbacks, when you move back and forth trying to get a shot only to get hit yourself

Man, drone recon + radios is OP

i'm trying so hard to not make a War Thunder reference rn.

The T-64 was hiding behind trees, which is why it drove forwards and backwards . At about the third minute a projectile is seen hitting a tree as the T-80 attempts to hit the enemy. For a confident shot, it had to move out into a well shot area.

A perfect analysis, as always.

An extraordinary tank battle really. Never would have expected to see such close quarters fight between them.

Do you think a commander looking out of his hatch Fury-style is a viable option if his visor is that limited?

@user-fd8vb9zp5y

Жыл бұрын

Очень большая вероятность поражения осколком

Talk about a quick draw contest. That was on e of the craziest and least expected things I've seen come out of this war

First time in my life Ive seen something like this

What an absolutely strange example of modern tank combat. Goes to show you how crazy the fog of war is that something like this can even still happen outside of urban environments.

You can see the round ricochet on the right side of the screen, the same side it was hit on

*"This video is sponsored by World of Tanks"**

Damn you're fast. I just saw it and thought it would be nice to have Redeffect analyse it

A correction the rounds you showed are 3BM42M sometimes called 3VBM-44 (which can be seen printed on the round) or 3BM44. the main difference is instead of being a segmented penetrator with a steel jacket like on the older 3BM42 its has a monobloc tungsten penetrator.

@Bialy_1

Жыл бұрын

There is hardly anything correct in this video... like for example all that babling that darts are not affected by the reactive armor...

@nemisous83

Жыл бұрын

@@Bialy_1 well APFSDS-T isn't really affected by Kontakt 1 ERA other than the thickness of the outer steel skin of the tile which is only about 5-10mm.

@V-V1875-h

Жыл бұрын

@@nemisous83 yeah, someone here didn't pay attention to what he was saying

imagine that you are not dead immediately and now you are getting fried surrounded by hot iron body of a tank on fire with no where to escape

German Panzer Abt during WWII quickly realized that the Cmdr was best having his hatch open and just popping his out for a better all round view of the situation. It caused some casualties from shrapnel from shells hitting near the tank , that's actually how Otto Carius got injured a few times. When going into battle the Germans always kept at least Cmdr hatch & sometimes loaders open but rest closed, Russian doctrine was to always be fully shut up in battle which meant they had very limited views and I mean extremely limited, some didn't have radio commands with each other so the Russians had no idea what was going on only what they saw through small vision slits. They started installing them in Russian tanks nearer the end of the war but suffered greatly and the Germans took the opportunity to have a better view of the battle to make better tactical decisions for the small percentage of danger,which as was shown was the best decision to no button up during an engagement .

@davidarnold9324

Жыл бұрын

Israeli doctrine as well. Part of being a tank commander. So much better to not be buttoned up all the time.

@grellixgrellixi9580

Жыл бұрын

As the Soviet tankers said, after heavy losses, experienced tank crews let a couple of fighters forward their tanks for reconnaissance and correcting the actions of tank crews. The same thing happened on the cramped city streets to detect ambushes and the enemy with faustpatrons. Crew members often acted as infantry to prevent enemy ambushes on their tanks.

@_kommandant_3055

Жыл бұрын

Even with the hatches closed German tanks had far superior situational awareness than Soviet tanks in WWII.

@stevenbreach2561

Жыл бұрын

@@davidarnold9324 and why the IDF cmdrs put their dog tags around their ankles.The losses were horrendous,but they prevailed.Brave men

@jasoncarswell7458

Жыл бұрын

Israeli tank commanders used to do the same thing, ride shoulders-out or even stand on the seat and go waist-out. It gave them superior visibility but they took horrendous casualties from artillery. One unexpected benefit of standing on the seat is that if your tank gets blown up underneath you, you're often blown out of the hatch like a cork - while surprisingly survivable, this is not a comfortable or safe procedure, and some men didn't survive the ride, but in several notable cases during the Yom Kippur War, Israeli TCs survived MULTIPLE ejections from different Centurions over the course of several days of fighting. Shmuel Askarov, Avigdor Khalani and Yossi ben-Hanan all had this happen.

Sovjet doctrine didn’t include multiple reverse gear. They’d punch a hole into enemy lines and just rush into it with whatever tank they have. Eventually overwhelming the enemy.

@wordofswords5386

Жыл бұрын

Yeah on a operational level. But on a tactical level, its ridiculous to think a Tank would never have to reverse to get into a better position. Its a stupid design even with the doctrine accounted for.

@anhduc0913

Жыл бұрын

@@wordofswords5386 I agree, it's stupid and ignorant. Even in the past rushing tanks in like that will just get yourself killed and provide additional roadblock for your enemies. Imagine a tank convoy getting ambush and the front tank is taken out. Good luck reversing or manuvering out of the line, might as well jump out and run.

@thanatos5642

Жыл бұрын

@@omegacentauri73 Germans would not say that

@HungPham-hm9yk

Жыл бұрын

So basically a rush b all in

@BOX3DOUT

Жыл бұрын

Soviets/Russians arent Pussy. Retreat isn't in thier doctrine. thats why they do it so badly sometimes.

It is refreshing to see that theres an actual footage of a specific claims. We need this instead of ghost of kyiv stories. Lol

Amazing analysis, thx

Amazing!!! 👍

Reversing and moving forward is called a Berm Drill it is used to make being targeted more difficult.

We need a revival of "Tanks with GoPros"

@ahmedthewahhabi

Жыл бұрын

We saw that in syria i hope russians and ukrainians too :)

It is likely that this was a fuel tank hit because when a tank is fully exploded it takes a few seconds for the ammunition to explode and the spontaneous combustion of the side is another sign of a fuel tank hit

Why does this battle feel like War Thunder? 🤔

@Gamer-dw6ho

5 ай бұрын

ukro tank got gaijin'd

@Chaz-videocreator

5 ай бұрын

@@Gamer-dw6ho lol!

+Avenger +Eye for an eye +Skill matters

@DirtL

Жыл бұрын

Someone had to do it

I think the first round was meant to mask their advance.... Considering how high up the tree line and the amount of smoke, ash, and debris generated. Most likely a HEAT round to generate as much smoke as possible.

@dleechristy

Жыл бұрын

smart... if that was the tactic