At least 1 man survived from the T-64 crew ambushed by the T-80. You can see him running at 4:32. It's interesting that he is running towards the russian tank so even after his tank was hit he didn't know where the enemy was.

@Mr79dream

Жыл бұрын

it looks like, he is running in a tunnel there.

@jebise1126

Жыл бұрын

no its not really interesting. man was on fire and in big shock surely. he might even die from burns after that. he fells down so it may have been adrenaline that kept him alive for few more seconds

@mahmoodali5043

Жыл бұрын

Dude was either on fire or something was catching to his clothes. There was white smoke coming off of him. He fell when he cleared the hedgerow and was in line of sight of the Russian tank, so its likey the tank machine gunned him when it had a shot

@militaristaustrian

Жыл бұрын

He smoked a lot so he culd have tried to surender and get medical aid

@gillsejusbates6938

Жыл бұрын

@@jebise1126 thats interesting either way you hebe

Kind of reminds me of all those old wild west duels

@lunseren

Жыл бұрын

Yeah bro🤣

@dylanwhite3383

Жыл бұрын

@@GerardMenvussa 😆😅🤣😂 that was good

@TheCommissarIsDead

Жыл бұрын

The standoff at U.A corral 😂

@gkess7106

Жыл бұрын

How? Really. How?

@arithadesilva4977

Жыл бұрын

Yes,, but, take live footage of ww2 in the Eastern front, its real un like the wild west because no live footage of the famous gun duals like one of the famous,, O k Koraal shoot out. But ww2, real stuff can be seen. Hats off to all tankers who pushed their tanks to the limit to earn credit to all those fighting mechines of a by gone eara🏆

Something I have noticed is there doesn't seem to be massive vehicle actions. No large scale tank on tank ops. Just individual tanks either fighting each other or being hit by ATGMs. I don't know if this is because of the time of the year, it seems to be the mud season, OR no one wants to concentrate their operations for some other reason, maybe artillery concerns. This surprises me since we are not that far from Kursk and the scene of that massive tank and tank battle. Can someone educate me on this?

@FiliusFidelis

Жыл бұрын

This is mainly an artillery war, especially with so many drones and spotters around any large concentration of tanks would likely be utterly decimated by long range fire in short order.

@ionutbalta6607

Жыл бұрын

High concentration of mechanismes troops are ripe taking for an artillery unit and easily spotted by a drone. You need to be sure that the enemy is beyond broken to think about comencing assault. See the Assault of Kherson.

@wyattlewis7137

Жыл бұрын

@@begonekneecaps9718 curious why you cheer for the Russians

@mikethompson2650

Жыл бұрын

@@FiliusFidelis So my assessment was right and I didn't miss something. Both sides are afraid of artillery, the God of War as the Russians say. I can see a real need for counter battery ops in the near future.

@patsy02

Жыл бұрын

If I had to guess: Hardware is scarce on both sides, and there's a subsequent aversion to staking it all on a large battle - the buildup to which can be spotted and countered well in advance by modern surveillance and artillery in concert. Hardware losses cannot easily be replaced as they could by WW2 Soviet tank production, which, aside from being unparallelled to this day, could churn out fighting vehicles that were far less complex and expensive than what's required to be effective today. Quantity over quality seems to be less relevant than ever. Also, the Russians did start the war off with a large scale armoured & mechanised offensive towards Kiev, and we all saw how that turned out.

I can't imagine what it must feel like to be hit by a shell while still being in the tank. Must be ringing in your ears.

@ymishaus2266

Жыл бұрын

There are old videos of Tiger crewmen describing penetrating hits on their vehicle as "lightning striking within the tank" or something to that effect.

@Tony-wr1gz

Жыл бұрын

If your ears are ringing you can count yourself lucky I guess.

@derpcade

Жыл бұрын

@@Tony-wr1gz until you look down and see that your ankles got blown off by chunks of the armor designed to protect you. Tank combat is brutal, especially when fought in older equipment.

@Tony-wr1gz

Жыл бұрын

@@derpcade Yes. I suppose instant death is better than a prolonged and agonising one from the many ways you can die in a tank.

@Billyipod

Жыл бұрын

@@derpcade todays apfsds, if it pens is normally instant death, the heat generated can get to 2.000 celsius degrees, but from what i know, apfsds, is not being use much on this war, as it is a shell used for tank vs tank.

The gunner of the Ukrainian T-72 M1 showed excellent discipline. He raised the gun out of the way of the driver's position before he abandoned the tank. He deserves a beer or a medal or something.

@MerlinJuergens

Жыл бұрын

He wont get any. He is alone

@MonkeSquid69

Жыл бұрын

It’s what your supposed to do in that situation It’s like finishing your homework on time It’s standard

@arya31ful

Жыл бұрын

@@MonkeSquid69 Just like flushing after doing the deed.

@Spaced92

Жыл бұрын

I've seen Russians do it, they forgot so ran back into the disabled tank, did it, tank got blown up with the guy they nearly forgot to (try and) save still in it. Definitely running out of experienced tank crew.

@dugzamilza5212

Жыл бұрын

@@Spaced92 wow you must be special...

4:30 Well, one guy made it out. However it's questionable if he survived. It's very much possible that he had very severe burns, including his lungs, and was basically just "running on adrenaline".

@slamsgt6642

Жыл бұрын

it seemed like he was burning since there was smoke coming from his back

@justduro1527

Жыл бұрын

With the smoke that was coming from him I dont think he survived 💀

@pierrevilley6675

Жыл бұрын

The human body can take an incredible amount of damage. Judging by how quick he got out, the doors of his tank must have been open, which probably saved his life by allowing him to not take too much damage from the blast/overpressure. If he indeed didn't got internal damage from the blast, and didn't bled out because of the shrapnels, it is very likely that he survived his burns. But that's a lot of "ifs"

@vulgar_potato4992

Жыл бұрын

@@pierrevilley6675 not too mention if the Russian tank just didn’t finish off the poor man

@pierrevilley6675

Жыл бұрын

@@vulgar_potato4992 Sad but true.

Tank battles are always rare, since from WW1, WW2, and with one of the wars during the Cold War, it’s always like that. Hard to capture the tank battle on camera for reality.

@comradericefarmerhao2269

Жыл бұрын

Ww2 saw the largest tank battle wdym it was rare?

@Kray21728SP

Жыл бұрын

@@comradericefarmerhao2269 I mean tank battles are becoming rare nowadays.

@ares8866

Жыл бұрын

@@Kray21728SP And in WW2 they tried to avoid them as much as they could. It is not economical.

@jamescowgill4039

Жыл бұрын

@@comradericefarmerhao2269 Even then, tank on tank battles were unusual - most of the time, tanks were taken out by anti-tank guns and both sides would avoid direct tank on tank combat when possible as it's a waste of what the tank's role is (thus all the tank killers in WW2.) I would hazard to guess that the most tank-on-tank fights per tank was in the middle eastern wars around Israel.

@luisurdiales3091

Жыл бұрын

@@comradericefarmerhao2269 It was, indeed, rare. WW2 was mostly an infantry battle, you're trying to make a rule out of the few exceptions that took place during a 4 year long struggle in the east.

Just seeing the pock-marked fields is crazy. The proliferation of drones is going to make this the most filmed war ever, its weird how little we see of it considering.

@ericquiabazza2608

Жыл бұрын

Well, that is the thing ALSO with satelite images. A is screen, study and edit before public release. If its to damagin for ones sode it wont get out. Other will need to wait 5months to get ANY lublication as it has strategic value. For example, channel Civ Div is of a american boluntier who go to ukrain, was given a go pro to film, but only release Some heavily edited footage. Like one resumen of the first 3 morths, showing snipets of 1-2 minutes with diferent groups, location, and even equipments.

@Mortablunt

Жыл бұрын

You see that’s the thing you would think because your media firstly can’t show too much really fucked up stuff and secondly they’re trying to hide the fact that the Russians absolutely slaughtered Ukrainians in pier engagements just check the Ukrainian admissions to their own losses versus the BBC investigation into Russian losses. It’s something like six to one.

@trvman1

Жыл бұрын

So basically this guy knows almost nothing of what was going on. What kind of tanks they were, how they were being shot at,. ect. Pretty much all guess work.

@peanutbooty9117

Жыл бұрын

ukraine is a poor country, if there was a war in western europe or the united states there would be way more and better quality cameras

@nelch

Жыл бұрын

@@peanutbooty9117 If...

damn, look at all those arty impact craters....😨😨

@user-dv7hq2rh4g

Жыл бұрын

Ikr, absolutely crazy. But I mean, the Russians have been firing up to 50,000 - 75,000 artillery shells per day, at least during the peaks of Russian shelling. Good thing their shelling is usually inaccurate and therefore not very effective.

@cr4me799

Жыл бұрын

@@user-dv7hq2rh4g not very effective? Look at the ukrainian infrastructure 🤣

@user-dv7hq2rh4g

Жыл бұрын

@@cr4me799 Look at the actual military success, or rather lack thereof... Ukraine has been firing an average of 5000 shells per day and look how well they've been doing against the supposedly second strongest army in the world... But yea, Russians sure are good at destroying civilian infrastructure. Also very good at looting and other, more serious war crimes...

@unknowncommenter6698

Жыл бұрын

@@user-dv7hq2rh4g about that... I remember seeing them taking out a squad of Ukrainians in 2 shots of 240mm (or smth like that) mortar of theirs, but I think that was Wagner, not regular military. Somehow Wagner is way better at it than "regulars". Also, the frontline is kind of stationary with both sides trying to cross the fields so I guess all the craters are just from both sides trying to stop each other's advance.

@jebise1126

Жыл бұрын

@@unknowncommenter6698 you can be better if you get all the support you need... also proper cameras to show off...

They never give Artillery Men love Remember Napoleon says God fights on the side with the Best Artillery

@Skiddins

Жыл бұрын

True, but Napleon didn't have any tanks ;-)

@artnull13

Жыл бұрын

Yet he still lost at Waterloo despite having the artillery advantage 🤔

@danielpetrucci8952

Жыл бұрын

Arty haters 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@danielpetrucci8952

Жыл бұрын

But in all seriousness all of his wins were because he had good tactics and Cav troops and the Artillery pinned down lots of colaltion forces like Itlay and Prussia

@artnull13

Жыл бұрын

@@danielpetrucci8952 no doubt he almost won - god just wasn’t on his side that battle 😉

Very spectacular was the IFV on IFV and IFV on tank battles in the early phase of the war, with that one Ukrainian BTR-4 crew taking out several IFVs and tanks in at least two "gun cam" videos. Then there was a video of autocannon fire at the rear of 2 T-72B3, very likely by a BTR-4 as well, so 30 mm fire. Both tanks were hit in the rear multiple times and iirc abandoned by their crews. There was also some fire and damage that looked like a shot out transmission that leaked a bunch of oil under one of the tanks. You couldn't see the vehicle that fired though, but it was definitely autocannon fire and the info claimed it to be a BTR-4. It happened around the same time as the other incidents I mentioned, when the battle for Mariupol was still raging.

@ZackBadCompany1234

Жыл бұрын

Like all of the videos your talking about is video game footage 😂

@sergiogonzalez8080

Жыл бұрын

@@ZackBadCompany1234 The ones he's talking about are not! I play a lot of Arma 3 and Squad so I know how a fake video looks like. Those are certainly real!

@hummerskickass

Жыл бұрын

I was impressed by the performance of the BTR-4, they really put in a lot of work at the beginning of the war when there were more of them around. Apparently the Ukrainian gunner on the two really well-known BTR gun cams survived and was released by the Russians and a prisoner swap after he was captured Mariupol.

@user-dv7hq2rh4g

Жыл бұрын

@@ZackBadCompany1234 I have some 2000 hours in Arma 3, have been enjoying mil sims since Operation Flashpoint (released more than 20 years ago). I also have watched thousands of videos about the issue, including countless Apache gun cam videos. I can easily and immediately tell apart if it's Arma 3 or some other simulation or the real deal. All these videos I mentioned were clearly the real deal. (Note: No, I'm not proud having played that much video games, but I also don't regret it, because I thoroughly enjoy playing mil sims. Also this has been since 2013 when Arma 3 was released, so it has been over the course of a number of years.)

@ZackBadCompany1234

Жыл бұрын

@@sergiogonzalez8080:trust me bro I play lots of video games 😆

For me is more spectacular to hit moving tank with artillery from 10-20 km away beyond horizon... You know, tank is designed to hit stuff at 300-3000 meters. But near miss from point blank distance also makes sense. Gunnar probably saw like part of the track or one armour plate, like 20x20 cm part of the tank from that distance. Optic is not designed to see much. Like sniper optic at point blank range is not that useful when you move and target is on move.

@xapocotacox

Жыл бұрын

Bro the optic can zoom in and out lmao

@dragancrnogorac3851

Жыл бұрын

@@xapocotacox I'm tank driver in Serbian M84(basically T72 B3)... At 100 m Gunnar can see something. Commander have zoom out situation and on M84

I can just imagine how many tank crews have to second guess before taking the shot being how similar the tanks are to each other.

@hansvonmannschaft9062

Жыл бұрын

You'd be amused to know that during WWII, despite all allied tanks looking clearly different from German ones, crews on both sides had issues id'ing them, many times leading to their demise, as it's the case on the well known, famous Pershing Vs. Panther video in Köln. The Panther didn't open fire first because they thought the Pershing was German, while being just 100 meters away or less. Otto Carius, a German tank ace, also tells in his book that once he held the order to fire for a second, against the side of a distracted IS-2, simply because he wondered if that was a King Tiger, that could've been captured by the Russians. Anyway, the usual is, this line here is our front, everything that comes towards us is the enemy.

@dangername6996

Жыл бұрын

Because of these, friendly fire is a massive problem in this conflict.

@user-fr8op9hf7r

Жыл бұрын

@@dangername6996 This is always a problem, in any army.

@user-es5ms1jx5m

Жыл бұрын

обычно союзных таков на одном направлении не много, так что увидел танк не сомневайся бей это враг 100% по крайней мере если ты с Украинской стороны.

I suppose the rarity of tank on tank footage is because: 1. The uneven weapons situation in the early phase of the war, with Ukraine relying on light infantry while Russia brought the heavy weapons sledgehammer. In this situation Ukraine would try to preserve their limited number of tanks and only field them in highly targeted operations or very cautious positions instead of aiming for open brawls. 2. The fact that the vast majority of tank knockouts really was scored by ATGMs and artillery. 3. The exceptional lethality of tanks against visible targets, including other tanks. We generally rarely see tanks shooting at any visible target. It's usually fire into concealment or from very long range, because any engagement against a visible target will be over at an instant and is therefore unlikely to be caught on camera. 4. Because both sides rarely publish footage from situations where they use drones to lead ground units. There has been some such footage, but it's clearly only a tiny fraction of how often it's actually used. 5. Because these tanks only have 3 man crew, no passengers, and no integrated means to film footage, so "POVs" are rare. 6. Because tank units have higher opsec than average infantrymen. What we get instead is the easy to film, insensitive footage: 1. Drone attacks or observation of artillery strikes - easy to access the digital footage and little sensitive information is shown, since the enemy already knows where they got struck. 2. Stugna, which is easy to film thanks to its remote control setup. 3. Passengers without active combat role filming from BTRs and BMPs. 4. The occasional helmet go-pro, at a roughly similar rate to tank-mounted go pro footage.

@lucagerulat307

Жыл бұрын

Even in ww2 more tanks were taken out by anti tank guns than by other tanks it's just a rare thing to happen.

@NDSMD

Жыл бұрын

@@lucagerulat307 Battle of Medina Ridge

@gkagara

Жыл бұрын

Even today Ukraine still lacking equipment that's why US refurbished T 62 now for Ukraine use, almost ALL equipment Ukraine have at the start of this conflict has been out of commission, all they have now is leftover equipment unfit and outdated.

@neurofiedyamato8763

Жыл бұрын

@@NDSMD That is a single engagement out of a major operation of a major war out of all the wars where tanks fought. Its just as easy to find an example of where tanks got no kills in a engagement.

@neurofiedyamato8763

Жыл бұрын

@@gkagara T-62??? The only old tank the West have been giving are T-72s. The US doesn't even have any significant stock of Soviet tanks. They have like a couple for museums, analysis, education/training, and opfor purposes. The only one reactivating T-62s is Russia and this isn't even being biased. Its just facts considering none of the Ex-warsaw pact turned NATO countries even maintain T-62s in storage. Ukraine themselves got rid of them for over 20 years. Its just a impossible claim. Russia is only source of T-62 for Ukraine and its why Ukraine only started operating T-62s AFTER Russia deployed them

One topic I would love to see you cover is Soviet 100mm and 115mm APFSDS ammo. I was reading about it for a campaign I am creating for a boardgame system and I was shocked. We nornally focus on the 125 mm for the soviets but the 100 mm and 115 mm available in the 80s were quite capable. The 115 mm apfsds shell most common to USSR had similar performance to the 3BM22 125mm apfsds shell which woul've been the most common 125mm shell available.

@tomvobbe9538

Жыл бұрын

You are full of nonsense. Hush now.

@thegenericguy8309

Жыл бұрын

The increase in caliber in Soviet tanks was not really for APFSDS performance reasons. The energy potential of the 125 is always going to be higher than the 115, it's mainly that the 115's shells were standardized to a more modern design sooner because the older shells had a higher deficit to make up for while the 125's older shell designs were still perfectly fine. The real reason for the size increase, however, was for better high explosive shells. The Soviets placed a very high emphasis on tanks as field artillery and the 125's high explosive shell was so big it could in some cases double as anti-armor, being capable of penetrating the front of a T-34 in tests

@Heldermaior

Жыл бұрын

@@tomvobbe9538 ?

@tomvobbe9538

Жыл бұрын

@@Heldermaior oh shit, I was replying to a different comment that was really stupid.

@Heldermaior

Жыл бұрын

@@tomvobbe9538 no worries. I just thought you were someone who felt very strongly about 115mm APFSDS.

Thanks for covering these, I really look forward to more.

It’s crazy how much craters are in the fields those could have been from battles months ago or just from an artillery barrage last week

@tetraxis3011

Жыл бұрын

@Ukraine Combat Footage Your name explains why you say such stupid stuff.

@eliasziad7864

Жыл бұрын

It's not crazy.

@znerodarp5392

Жыл бұрын

@Ukraine Combat Footage ukranians are using the same thing, smh

Never clicked on a video so fast

Unrelated but around 1:51 when the Driver? gets out I was amazed at his speed. He took off like a missle! I can't imagine the adrenaline required to go from sitting still in a cramped tank to a sprint for your life beyond your bodily limits. He should try out for the Olympics, holy crap!

@eliasziad7864

Жыл бұрын

I'm faster when I am about to miss the bus.

@DOLLARfast

Жыл бұрын

The nationalist Party of Ukraine gets a lot of weapons! Neo-Nazis can win this war!

@f.palmero5010

Жыл бұрын

@@DOLLARfast No? The Nationalist Party is a political group not a military. And Ukraine and Zelensky are going to win not Russia or Facism.

@twinblade02

Жыл бұрын

Poor bastard just got introduced to the front end of a 152mm shell. If I'd survived that, I'd run too.

Actually there was a video with a tank duel 3-4 month earlier from Russian side. From LPR, I guess. But it was relatively hard to get idea of what is going on. Guess that's the answer to why there are almost no videos like this. Distance. It is just hard for drone to capture both sides and get a meaningful video. For example that T-80 going front on front with T-64 has a burnt BMP-3 near Ukrainian tank. Which implies that that was a rescue or revenge mission.

That shot from the T-80 was beautiful. Not so much for the T-64 crew but it was still a well placed shot.

@scorpiontdalpha9799

Жыл бұрын

I think only a blind gunner can miss that shot Heck the T80 can just go out of road in front of the T64 and kills it without getting in danger since the T64 commander is too focus on looking 90 degree away

@benjaminpadilla1464

Жыл бұрын

@@scorpiontdalpha9799 Jesus, imagine the driver if the T-64 when he saw the T-80 pop out, he only had about 3 seconds to get his prayers on order as all his blood rushed to his legs. Tragic and disturbing

@Valkyrie_Yukikaze

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminpadilla1464 I can imagine the poor driver shouting “Blyat” if he saw the Russian T80.

@JAnx01

Жыл бұрын

@@Valkyrie_Yukikaze or "Ghost of Kyiv, hear my prayers".

@TocTeplv

Жыл бұрын

Children of WOT

I swear I saw a crew member running from the second tank ambush. His clothing was smoking and he ran toward the Russian tank and stopped by the ditch on the side of the road

Tanks for the Video Red .

4:28 you can see a man jumping out in a smoking cloth and hiding, so commander may survived

Because of how central artillery has been in this conflict, if there is no visible opponent tank, my first assumption, regardless of what descriptions say, is that it's a tank being taken out by artillery. I have noticed there are often some very odd and seemingly very big cuts in footage that can be very eyebrow-raising once you see it.

a lot of tank commanders have said that tank on tank battles don't usually happen because half the time if they see a tank they don't wanna go out of their way of fighting another tank and risking the artillery fire so they tend to avoid those type of tank on tank duels

@greg.kasarik

Жыл бұрын

Thing is, that if these tanks were operating within a troop (or platoon), they should be able to radio in a contact report and direct another tank to take the shot. Artillery fire really isn't that big a problem for a closed down tank. Yes, certain modern ammunition can be accurate to within a few metres, but this isn't the kind of accuracy you get from traditional artillery, or rockets, but is what is needed in order to damage a tank. Most artillery kills on tanks are actually mobility kills, in which the track is broken, or otherwise damaged. This is the point at which most crew will bail, because they are now a sitting duck.

Awesome video and great analysis

Good on you for catching the edited bits

I'm wondering what you think about the new solution for the upgraded T72B3M, which was shown at the factory. And there are a video of the T90M reversing in the vicinity appeared a few weeks ago.

@eliasziad7864

Жыл бұрын

What does the T72B3M fix?

@Niko_rj

Жыл бұрын

@@eliasziad7864 not much, just added a little more dynamic protection in vulnerable places. I can show the pic in discord if u want

Seeing tank battles like these is surreal

as usual, good video dude. Sending love from Malaysia

Wise words, Lots of editing and little or no context can miss lead all of us.

So good to hear someone on KZread who doesn't celebrate death. I also am pleased at each and every person Russian or Ukrainian who walks away with zero to minimal injuries from this conflict. Thank you for not being a sadist.

Whats actually hilarious about these tank on tank duels, is how World of Tanks like they are. Close range, solo tanks off doing thier thing....getting absolutely demolished like only a total turkey can.

@chiron13

Жыл бұрын

Hilarious? People died inside those tanks.

@NorthernNorthdude91749

Жыл бұрын

@@chiron13 It's still funny as fuck tho.

@CMDRFandragon

Жыл бұрын

@@chiron13 As if anyone reaaally gives a shit about people dying....lets be real there....people might be all, aww, so sad...but no one really cares.

I agree with your analysis. Good job.

This is why redeffect is number one for military channels

A very balanced & neutral approach towards this conflict. Kudos to you mate.

The reason we don’t see alot of clear Tank on Tank “Battles” is because most Tanks will be engaging each other from thousands of meters away.

Great video as always. I really like your videos, since they focus on the armour side on the conflict, and (for the most part) avoid political remarks

I am very interested in motorized modern combat and thus I am pretty well following the operation since the very first day. With confidence, I can say that almost all of the videos since the beginning of the operation are taken in such way to server propaganda reasons on both sides. Until now there are only 2 videos that can be called legit tank-on-tank battles. RedEffect covered already one. I hope either side releases more full on combat videos for educational, documentational and history reasons.

@user-fr8op9hf7r

Жыл бұрын

This will not happen. The fact is that the most combat-ready part of the military contingent - the Russian army does not shoot video. What you see is the actions of PMC Vanger or the forces of the LDNR. And Ukraine simply does not have any heavy equipment or trained personnel.

2:09 what shocked me the most, and now leaves me with an unsettling feeling is the amount of craters there are in these fields. It only hits home because I've been following this conflict for a few good years and I used to look at Google maps and see these fields and Crimea and Dnipro river etc. and I always used to imagine how an invasion into these terrortories would look. But more so, I used to look at the donbas villages and try correspond from Twitter what was happening on the maps. To see those fields, thousands of them, lush, untouched green and full, to see it like this 2:09 - it's just, unsettling. War is complete hell and should be reserved for video games.

@ishitrealbad3039

Жыл бұрын

war is necessary, stop being such a wuss.

@arturscherbakov2543

Жыл бұрын

welcome to our reality

@Mautiks

Жыл бұрын

@@arturscherbakov2543 boo hoo hoo 😭 Every free nation on earth had to go through an independence war… You should be thanking us for the hundreds of billions in military hardware an aid you’re getting from us, not treating us with contempt and disrespect…

@yegorperepelytsya7812

Жыл бұрын

@@Mautiksim thankful for aid and military supplies , but its not our first war for independence , and western countries never encountered such battle intensity , not even during ww2

@Mautiks

Жыл бұрын

@@yegorperepelytsya7812 You must be joking… In WWII, entire cities were leveled to the ground with artillery and aerial firebombings. There was combat in every type of climate and terrain. From the scorching open deserts of northern Africa to the dense Ardennes forest… from the islands in the South Pacific to the cold mountains of Northern Europe… Tens of millions died. Prisoners of war were flayed alive or scorched with man-carried flamethrowers… Yes, western militaries had to clear large urban centers as well. Yes, there was intense combat all around; tank-tank, air-air… Cities were even nuked… To say that your country is facing something more intense than what we faced in WWII is a funny joke to me! We are giving you the tools you need. If you want it, take it. If you want to sit in a corner and cry about it, do that. But don’t expect us to fight for you… While the French supplied the Americans in their war against the British Empire, they did not do the fighting. The American patriots had to earn it… I don’t understand how you can be given such advanced military hardware and still whine about it… You literally have top of the line stuff now…

really given the range of engagement of many tank on tank battles you'll be lucky to get an video that shows a clear picture of what is going on and who won.

4:30 what do you mean the crew didn’t get out alive, there’s literally a guy on fire running out of the tank

the amount of shell holes in the video are terrifying. stretching endlessly

hey red, can you do a review on Chinese new vt4 varient, the VT4A1, that tank is pretty good in my opinion

@your_waifu_hates_you

Жыл бұрын

How have i not heard of this

2:58 . Как русский я могу вам сказать что я ни разу не слышал, чтобы русские говорили о том, что это танковая дуэль. Во всех русских видео указано, что это работа артиллерии. Могу скинуть ссылки на посты в телеграмме, если кому-то сильно интересно. Там везде хвалят наших артиллеристов.

@janbalazs2900

Жыл бұрын

Tak tak,,,Bravo Rusia🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

@Fred93

Жыл бұрын

Артём Шевцов, можешь пожалуйста скинуть ссылку полного боя

@user-kj9em8ts9i

Жыл бұрын

@@Fred93 у меня нет ссылки на полный бой, я видел только укороченную версию с уничтожением танка, там где хвалят артиллерию. Для меня самого было удивлением, когда автор показал кадры с российским танком в данном видео.

@janbalazs2900

Жыл бұрын

Ukraina only evry day hoax vorking,,Hungarian poeple for Rosian Federation🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

@user-zl6yh8pu5f

Жыл бұрын

@@user-kj9em8ts9i там не дуэль. То что убила арта факт, но танк попал и подбил, просто не до конца, арта его добила

Good video. Illuminating content clearly explained.

Tank footage is rare because of its specific, in tank battle you don't want to get to close to enemy, since they are easy to spot and very blind... So when takes out a target at 1km or more, we can see only the tank shooting or only target being hit. Seeing two at the same time is barely possible

There was a tank "battle" early in the war on a street of some city recorded by pedestrian (where a russian tank kinda ambushed ukrainian tank) but i have lost the vid

Realizing people getting cooked inside a Tank gives me chills💀💀💀

@SpardauDebesi

Жыл бұрын

Dont sweat they die instantly

@michaellind3653

Жыл бұрын

what did you think happens in war? Jesus tapdancing Christ you people are naive

@tropicaltraveler7654

Жыл бұрын

@@michaellind3653 fam, he only said it give him chills. Calm

@nikolakaravida9670

Жыл бұрын

Most tankers die quickly. You either get pierced by a jet of copper or shredded by metal fragments.

@tm5123

Жыл бұрын

I'd rather die instantly inside a tank, than bleed out in some muddy ditch after a drone drops fragmentation ammo on my ass.

5:51 It is infantry smoke grenade. Tanks usually fire multiple smoke grenades at once and not just single one. Tank smoke grenades use WP while smoke grenade in the video burns slowly more like RGD-2.

isnt that because most times, tanks engage each other at long range where regular camera's often cant spot the other target and its very hard to get both of them on screen at the same time. the only bits of tank on tank footage we have from any conflicts is usually basically point blank.

This is why i don't watch the news today and just watch video's like this. Good catch on the editing! Im really happy there are people like you that are non-biased reviewers of the current war and look straight trough the propaganda.

@larsdejong7396

Жыл бұрын

Tell me about it. The internet is festering with people either calling Russian tanks god-like, or despising them as nothing but target practice for the Javelin. Let alone explaining why Russia has been performing rather poorly during the conflict. Nah, far easier to switch off your brain and laugh at stupid Russian tin can, conveniently ignoring the fact that Ukraine is also using those tin cans.

How I wish this is just a duel in War Thunder and the crew will just have a laugh and go back to their daily life.

You can clearly see barrel raising as crew gets out at 2:58. Either engine was on or electro drive. Also, we will probably not see much of tank battles as shown in first video, tanks don't fight that close usually.

Yes, you'd think there would be more drone recordings of tank battles. Maybe more will come out later

the first tank on tank video i saw was months ago. a Ukrainian tank in urban combat against multiple armored vehicles.

@haaxeu6501

Жыл бұрын

That was a BTR4 I'm pretty sure, so not a tank, that's probably why he's not taking it into account.

@Myemnhk

Жыл бұрын

@@haaxeu6501 hes not speaking about the ukrainian btr that destroyed 2 ifvs and a tank, there was a video of a ukrainian t72 ambushing 2 or 3 bmps and a russian tank when they were fleeing from kiev

RIP to all lives lost 😥

It may not be so much its rare just rare to get on tape considering the ranges that are probably involved. For example the first one a drone just so happened to be in the right place at the right time and the operator just happened to be recording and then decided to release it to the public.

With both sides wearing and using the same gear (relatively) it is easy for either side to spin it to make themselves look better.

This vid was amazing, I’ll be honest and say I use to watch your vids with a grain of salt because I thought you had a Russian bias but watching this vid I recognized my own bias and realized I just wanted the “good guys” to win, thank you for this vid absolutely great

@user-uc4vg4rg9e

Жыл бұрын

Same, I've always had a Russian equipment bias

@Sun-Tzu-

Жыл бұрын

In case you haven't noticed almost EVERYTHING you see on this war is Ukrainian biased. You can almost guarantee it's the truth if a non-Russian source writes about a Russian victory. They never get covered until absolutely undisputable, and even yet they're often ignored in favour if tiny Ukrainian pyrrhic victories. Weirdly enough if feels a lot less like I'm being lied to when I see Russian successes.

There was a brilliant tank to tank battle recorded between an AFU T-64 and BTR-4 team against several Russian T-72's. After some firing and maneuvering some serious close quarters fighting evolves with the BTR down and a head to fight at 50M between the T-64 and lead T-72. After a series of misses from both sides, the T-64 finally gets taken out. I would be curious to opinions as to why both tanks missed at such close range. I recall the missed shots (UFA miss, Rus miss, AFU miss, Rus hit on T-64) going low, striking the ground in front of the opposing tanks. Hope you can find it!

@highjumpstudios2384

Жыл бұрын

Y'ever played Wargame red dragon? The tank crews were clearly in the "panicked" state

@yuripotecknov5164

Жыл бұрын

Probably due to the barrel being offset from the sight. We train on everybody’s position in the M1A2 SEP, and we train to account for this. Most likely both crews were running off of pure adrenaline and forgot about it, since they were more experienced at engaging targets at range and not expecting a close quarters knife fight (tank fight)

The last video if complicated to evaluate. Is the tank hit the operable one or is the other one? There is no more of the video?

Ukraine is mostly wide open country, so tanks can be miles apart as they shoot at each other. At those ranges, any video that shows both would have to be taken from so high up they'd be dots. Neither side seems to have rigged their sights with any kind of recording device, as well. The only POV shots I've seen are wide angle Go-Pros mounted on the outside of tanks, where I usually couldn't tell what the target was.

Good analysis. I'm glad that you are able to track these down and present them to us. As a former tank soldier, I suspect that there are actually very few tank on tank battles happening in this war. It seems to me that most of the heavy armour is being taken out by man portable missiles, because these have a larger range and are far easier to deploy from a camouflaged position. I suspect that the tanks are being used to support the infantry, rather than take on other tanks directly, as would have been the case during a cold war conflict, or the two Gulf Wars. A tank is both noisy and very easy to see on a battlefield, whereas a modern AT infantry section of two, or three troops is the exact opposite. I suspect that the reason that we are seeing more Russian tanks firing on Ukrainian ones is because they have basically depleted their stocks of modern AT weapons, so are forced to rely on tanks, in situations where the Ukrainian infantry can dismount, before reaching out and touching someone from a range that by far exceeds that of any tank gun. Also, the footage being shown really demonstrates that despite there being solid and well established "front lines", the tanks appear to be operating individually and not in troops (platoons), and are not providing each other with supporting fire. This is something, I'd expect from poorly trained crews, so is perhaps indicative of just how many experienced tank soldiers each side has lost since the beginning of the conflict.

@noturfather1106

Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine you and other veteran tankers would be quite valuable on both sides

@greg.kasarik

Жыл бұрын

@@noturfather1106 Yes, with respect to training of additional crew and armoured doctrine (although the language barrier is a huge hurdle), but no with respect to doing the actual fighting. War is a young man's game and tanks need a lot of physically heavy maintenance. Track bashing alone (the replacement of rubber track pads and the reassembly of damaged track) would rule me out. I just can't swing a sledge hammer, like I used to. Many of us carry long term injuries from our service. By way of example, I receive a DVA medical pension, on account of injuries sustained during service. However, if push came to shove, I would gladly jump back into my old tank, and go out with a bang! 🙂

@MrPool-zn9lz

Жыл бұрын

do you seriously think that Russia is running out of any weapons? Throughout the conflict they say that it ends, but it never ends

@greg.kasarik

Жыл бұрын

@@MrPool-zn9lz It is impossible for anyone (including the Russians), to know how much viable ammunition is in the system. It is no secret that corruption is endemic and this places an effective blinder over what we can know. All any of us can do is look at what the troops are being issued on the ground. The fact that troops were being issued with ancient 19th Century rifles mere months into the conflict, as opposed to the highly effective AK series of weapons indicates a likely shortage of AK ammunition of various types. And yes, for some unknown reason the Russians have thousands of these and their ammunition in storage. In Australia, we literally threw our old Lee Enfields into the sea, rather than keep ancient rubbish from cluttering our logistics. The fact that there are numerous documented cases of newly mobilised Russian conscripts being issued with rusty weapons indicates a lack of good quality weapons in storage. Similarly, the fact that they are bringing T-62 and T-64 tanks out of storage also indicated significant issues, as the T-72 and later tanks are really the only ones that should be on a modern battlefield and even then, only once they've been upgraded with thermal sights. Similarly, the fact that they are relying so heavily on Iranian drones indicates that they've severely depleted their stocks of ground to ground missiles. This was actually evident months ago, when they started repurposing S-300 launchers into the ground attack role. Also, as I pointed out, the way in which they are using equipment seems to suggest they are lacking in certain weapon categories, such as modern ATGMs. Sure, there are lots of RPG-7s, but you need to get suicidally close to an enemy tank in order to use one. So, while we can't say for sure that the Russians are running out of usable equipment, the evidence points to significant issues within their logistics (what good equipment they have isn't getting where it needs to be) and an ongoing incapacity to supply the modern equipment that their soldiers will need to win on the ground. We'll find out more in the coming months. If, as I expect, the Russians fail to equip properly for winter, we'll know that this is a generalised problem, not just the random chance of certain issues bubbling to the surface, because they make good clickbait.

@MrPool-zn9lz

Жыл бұрын

@@greg.kasarik There are more AKs in Russia than Russian men. And I personally have not seen old rifles, not counting fakes. But I saw Ukrainians with "Maxim". Regarding tanks: it’s stupid to use only modern tanks, given that Ukraine itself uses old Soviet ones, and old T-64Ms can perform most tasks, they are easy to train and they are much cheaper. But we also saw the T-90M, probably in especially important places. They constantly write about different missiles, but they still exist, and Iranian drones are quite reasonable, because they are cheap and very effective. But anyway, time will tell

Comment section would be way wilder and quicker to mock Russians if it was a Russian tank getting destroyed instead.

@Rorschach7012

Жыл бұрын

yea, the western hypocrisy

There is further video of the engagement at 6:49 showing where the Ukrainian tank was from the perspective of an infantryman that was dismounted maybe 15 meters away. The video shows the the Ukrainian tank was parked in a small tree line on a large hill perhaps 500m away. The video only captures the last shot but has a wider perspective proving the Ukrainian tank was causing the damage and the drone vid showing that it was an ambush rather than proper duel. The impacts are also more reminiscent of APFSDS hits as opposed to rockets, missiles, or artillery

Thank you 🙏 still hard to see who is who’s tank and thanks 🙏 for your excellent explanation

In my opinion this is because of sophisticated drones and very capable ATGMs. Air power doesn't seem to be a big factor in this particular conflict.

@FXIIBeaver

Жыл бұрын

That is because the Ukrainian airforce is probably gone at this point and US supplied manpads are forcing Russia to do a WW1/2 style war.

@mbtenjoyer9487

Жыл бұрын

Because neither side managed to get air superiority

There is footage of a Ukrainian BMP shooting at Russian BMPs and taking out at least 2 then hitting a T-72 on the side through the track area and after about 3-4 hits in the same area the tank went up.

@toddventura7191

Жыл бұрын

That sounds crazy. Please could I have a link to this footage?

@PeliSotilas

Жыл бұрын

@@toddventura7191 kzread.info/dash/bejne/oGGGuqihp6a8kbQ.html&ab_channel=MilitaryFootageArchive-MFA

@toddabbott781

Жыл бұрын

@@toddventura7191 It might have been a BTR-4. It is at about 40 seconds when it pieces the tank between the wheels. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIqK2dSFis2_otI.html

@alexsmart5452

Жыл бұрын

@@toddabbott781 Yea, thats one of the very first videos of armor vs Armor to come out of the War. That was an AZOV unit BTR/BMP in Mariupol supporting Ukraine infantry(probably AZOV. maybe Ukraine Marines) taking on 3-4 Russian BMPs with Russian Infantry support and at least one Russian T72.. and winning.

@toddabbott781

Жыл бұрын

@@alexsmart5452 The thing that impressed me was that a 30mm (likely) could take out a main battle tank. Their placement of fuel tanks and their autoloader was such a weak spot in their tanks for so many years and they never bothered to fit them until the T-14 and while the crew survivability of the tanks looks good the rest of the armor on that thing actually looks worse. Any hit not on the crew compart will likely go right through. Of course until they fix their engine and manufacturing issues... and get more money and electronics they might actually start building them. They have a lot of tanks to replace now... almost a clean slate. :P

Those Polish T-72M1 delivered to Ukraine have actually been upgraded with thermovision.

4:33 There is 1 person that did get away it seems. Look between the UA tank and the road running away from the tank towards the south. Now, because the huge text I can't see whether this guy was on the rear of the tank or inside it just before the tank got struck. However if you look at 4:29 there is something just behind the tank that seems to be smoking. This is the person that got away from the tank. Now who this person is, probably remains a mystery unless the person comes forth and tells his story.

1 smoking person made it out of the ambushed ukrainian tank

I assume these kinds of duals would be very hard to get on video. I think the video of the Ukrainian tank taking out the Russia tank is probably a reenactment that they did for propaganda purposes. Like they called in a drone to video them “finishing it off” even though they just took it out. Since most tank duels are theoretically supposed to take place miles away there may be many that are just impossible to get on video. I’m actually surprised we have so many close range fights, not to mention how many lone tanks there are without being in a squadron.

@igornewhouser1028

Жыл бұрын

Drones are used widely and constantly. There are also a lot of videos of tank battles from drones. So it's not about reconstruction. The Ukrainian military simply does not have time to deal with such nonsense.

@user-me5oq3kl4h

Жыл бұрын

@@igornewhouser1028 it has a lot of time actually and it does reconstruction from time to time

@igornewhouser1028

Жыл бұрын

@@user-me5oq3kl4h Do you really understand what is being said?

Are you able to do a video about the T-90M?

This is a decent analysis. I do believe you are correct, the first video seems to be to janke to be genuine. The second one though does seem to be at least mostly on the level. Don't know the specifics of the video but it is pretty much certain one tank knocked out another.

Tanks are not meant to fight at close range so being able to get both tanks in one shot would be rare. Much of the footage of vehicles including tanks being blown up in this war could be from artillery or tanks(or mines even), often all one sees is an explosion and that is it and as we can see from the confirmed tank hits on other tanks, it looks pretty similar if not the same to what could be attributed to artillery.

For the infantry to dismount on the non combat side, Im guessing in the last video given their positions were retreating or ambushed from the rear, and following solid doctrine Infatry dismounted to provide cover for the T64s after the first tank was downed in order to cover them while they secure the area against further advances from Russian Armor / infantry. Given the extremely poor FoV most soviet/russian tanks are known for I wouldnt be surprised that actual tank battles are initiated by drones, or scouts spotting enemy armor first.

Thank you

Even if you can produce new tanks fast enough to replace the destroyed ones, can you train new tank soldiers fast enough to replace the dead or wounded ones? I’m no soldier but just wondering.

@znerodarp5392

Жыл бұрын

It's hard and easy at the same time to control a tank, as you are not the one controlling the driving, the shooting, the loading, but you still have to learn which buttons you press and learn to calm yourself, and know teamwork

the fact that in the picture it is not a Ukrainian tank, a Russian tank is advancing on the Ukrainian one, stop misleading, hello from Russia

Is this what top tier War Thunder ground realistic battles look like in real life?

@unknowncommenter6698

Жыл бұрын

Not realistic, but simulation battles, you don't have markers on your own allies (Americans had that system but it was frequently glitchy and caused some friendly fire)

my theory is that with most actual duels/battles, there is no drones, as when there is drones there is artillery so that's why the videos are scarce

You need to concat comeone who can upscale the videos for you. lots of detail to be recovered. I belive that in the video of t80 there's one soldier escaping from the UA tank.

Finally my warthunder knowledge has a chance to be one percent useful. (I haven't watched the vid yet) Edit: YES I KNEW WHAT A APFSDS SHELL WAS!!! NOW I CAN GO BACK TO THE SNAIL HAPPY!!!

Ambush or not, its still a Tank on Tank battle. Situational awareness wasn't there as they were looking in the wrong direction entire time.

Im pretty sure I've seen a video of tanks facing off against each other in an open field taking shots at each other with artillery support.

I still remember the crazy tank video, where ukranian soldiers waving there hands to a tank. The russian tank shoot 1 HE round, the entire ukranian group of 20 people are dead. No fake propaganda, everything is in one screen, so no editing. War is hell, they was thinking it was a friendly tank.

@user-sq2hg7nh9u

Жыл бұрын

Those tanks were ukranians

Т72В3 is also very old tank - it is just cheap upgrade of T72B 1985-1992 years of production.

Please link the original videos in description

A lesson learned from WW2 is that the cannon, be it mounted on a tank or a truck, is the most viable mobile anti-tank weapon and should be deployed in large numbers to counter enemy tanks. Due to modern tank fleets being smaller than they were during WW2, tanks are considerably less likely to run into each other on the battlefield these days. Also, the tank destroyer (light AFV with cannon) has been replaced with trucks and helios carrying ATGMs, with can respond to concentrated armoured attacks as quickly or faster than tanks themselves. This is significant because ATGMs have a longer effective range than the cannon, dwindling the tank's numbers before they can get within effective range of each other. If the number of tanks on the battlefield increased and/or ATGMs became less viable due to APS, the supremacy of the cannon would return.

@nassimnassim6019

Жыл бұрын

Could you bring proof that atgm especially the one deployed in enormous quantity from both side have longer range than cannon?

@anthonyfarrell7720

Жыл бұрын

@@nassimnassim6019 The Javelin missile, which is used frequently by Ukraine, has a max range of 4.75km. Ukraine's Skif 152mm has a max range of 5.5km. Russia's Kornet EM has a max range of 8km. I'll add that US Apachies equipped with Spike ERs can knock out tanks at over 25km. The longest range tank on tank kill(acheived by a Challenger 2 during The Gulf War) was 5.1km or 4.7km depending on who you ask. The gunner had to guess where to aim because his sight didn't go out that far.

@nassimnassim6019

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyfarrell7720 you considers all the informations on cannons having range of 20km and howitzer up or more than 70 to be false? What about the recent claims from ukraine to have beaten the record for the longest tank on tank destruction? Edit : also you gave me a missile that aren't deployed (at least openly) in ukraine, there isn't any apache unless it's a secret operation and why wouldn't russia reveal it?

@anthonyfarrell7720

Жыл бұрын

@@nassimnassim6019 I was referencing direct fire anti-tank weapons, that's why I mentioned tanks and tank destroyers, not howitzers. Howitzers are good at damaging and destroying tanks in indirect fire, but the longer the distance to the target the worse the accuracy. If howitzers were the best AT weapon, there would probably be no ATGMs and certainly no direct fire tank cannons firing APFSDS or HEAT. The claimed 10,600m tank kill was said to be accomplished by a Ukrainian tank firing HE in indirect fire. The lack of shell craters surrounding the destroyed tank makes the claim that it was destroyed by arty at 10km unlikely, let alone a tank operating as jerry rigged arty. I mentioned the Spike only to make a point about the capabilities of ATGMs, I did not intend to claim it was being used in Ukraine.

russian tank took advantage of an ambush everyone: well, war is not fair when ukranian tanks or army personals do the same everyone: brave warriors

@johnharrison6745

Жыл бұрын

Me: Russian tank crew SHOULD have taken-out RUSSIA'S so-called "leader".

@HashiramaSenyu

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnharrison6745 salava Cocaini 😤🚬🌬🇺🇦

Good analysis

I remember seeing that artillery/tank video a few were back on a pro Russian Telegram channel. Even then it was listed as a joint kill, artillery/tank.

Меня интересует один вопрос, а как вам спится от того, что вы помогаете парням с СС символикой? Азов, Айдар, правый сектор. Как вы спите? Нормально? Ваши деды СС уничтожали, а вы, помогаете.

@entersstandoff2643

Жыл бұрын

ну потому-что мы нацисты, по-этому. Мы бандеровци, 8 лет бомбили Донбасс.

@l.m.s2874

Жыл бұрын

@@entersstandoff2643 Что?

@user-yr8gc4tl7b

Жыл бұрын

А Россия почему с двумя сс? Почему не с одной.

@DuckDomestos_

Жыл бұрын

​​@@l.m.s2874 ой какой ты серьезный. АЗОВ и Айдар это националисты, может у тебя ещё осталась капля мозга, для того что бы зайти хоть в Википедию и почитать разницу между ними и нацистами.. если же ты разницы не видишь, могу деньги на лечение скинуть, братские народы как никак.. А на болоте, кстати, ДШРГ "Русич" существует, всякие Антоны Раевские, русские марши, вот они именно нацисты. Не надоело с бревнами в глазах сидеть?

@danilserov9840

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@@DuckDomestos_ (Национа́л-социали́зм (нем. Nationalsozialismus), более известный как наци́зм - немецкая тоталитарная[1], экстремистская[3], ультраправая[4], расистская и антисемитская[7]] идеология и движение в 1919-1945 годах; форма фашизма[9][3][10]; крайняя форма политического этнического национализма[11] в рамках фёлькише. Сочетает идею «арийской расы», её биологического и культурного превосходства над другими расами[12][13], которые рассматриваются как «неполноценные»[13], расовый антисемитизм («семитская раса» - евреи - рассматриваются как антипод и главный враг «арийской»), конспирологическую идею о «мировом еврействе» как главном враге германской нации, славянофобию[14], идею «арийского» (немецкого национального) социализма, антикоммунизм, антилиберализм, антидемократизм[19][3]. Основы идеологии изложены в книгах «Моя борьба» (1925-1926) Адольфа Гитлера, «Миф двадцатого века» (1930) Альфреда Розенберга и др.) Теперь смотрим - экстремистская[3] теракт на крымском мосту и подрыв Дарьи Дугиной как минимум. - Ультоправая [4] - политические движения и группы или отдельные лица, занимающие крайние позиции в правой части политического спектра. Запрет украинцами другого мнения, в частности о россии (пример Бузина, Олесь Алексеевич) - расистская и антисемитская[7] предвзятое отношение к России и всему Русскому с привкусом явного отвращения, еще в нулевых годах. - национализма[11] форма национализма, в рамках которой нация и национальность определяются с точки зрения этнической принадлежности с акцентом на этноцентрический (в некоторых случаях также этнократический) подход к различным политическим вопросам, связанным с национальным идентификацией этнической группы. то есть выделяют свою нацию и возвышают ее над другим, в данном случае над Руссими. - славянофобию[14] не смотря на то, что Украинци тоже славяне, как и Поляки, они усердно ненавидят все Русских, в том числе и Сербов в придачу. - социализма, антикоммунизм ну не забываем про декомунизацию на Украине.

Thanks for exposing ukranian propaganda aswell on this very heavily westren leaning platform

In the T-80 ambush, we see that one crew member does appear to survive, dashing to the side of the road and taking cover.

@ukuskota4106

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It's hard to live one week after such burns. Only chance is if he had special clothes that don't burn through like racing suits

At 4.34 is that a crewman that escaped? Good quality, thank you.

@Okeel1234

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Yes, but he didnt survive

Я русский. Случайно увидел ваши споры. Интересно было прочитать мнение наших врагов. Проблема в том, что вы как и мы не имеем полной картины событий. Единственно, что точно ясно, началась третья мировая война и в ней цель России не Украина, а собственное выживание. Поэтому, единственно что нам остается молиться, чтобы эта бойня не переросла в ядерный апокалипсис.

@terran79wot7

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кому ты объясняешь?они слишком тупые,что бы это понять.

@C.chamaeleon

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И кто же вам мешал вкладывать все те деньги , которые вы потратили на войны (ой, "помощь" странам) в Сирии, Грузии, Азербайджане, Молдове, Украине, ЦАР, Ливии, в собственную экономику? Кто вам мешал налаживать собственное производство готовой высокотехнологичной продукции, а не сырья? Кто вам мешал заинтересовывать соседние страны своей сильной экономикой и втягивать из в свою сферу влияния, а не насильственным и военным путём? Странно, что все вам вокруг мешают и обижают бедных руцьких... только одно "но"- вы сами ничего не умеете, кроме как бряцать оружием в стиле "обезьяна с гранатой". Начните хоть что-то производить для своего населения, а не для войны. Банальный пример: палубные истребители Миг для Индии. Кто вам мешал их сделать нормальными? Мало того, что вам индусы почти полностью оплатили разработку и создание этих самолетов, так вы ещё и отказались исправлять свои ошибки за свой счёт. И что в итоге? Индусы развернулись в сторону французских самолетов. Потому что во французских компаниях как минимум есть репутация, которой они дорожат, они предоставляют нормальные партнёрские отношения, которые устроят всех. Но вы продолжайте винить клятых муриканцев во всех своих бедах, ведь так проще, ведь кроме этого вы ничего и не умеете. Проще жить когда за тебя думает телевизор, когда за тебя уже решили что тебе говорить, кого слушать, что читать и куда ездить)))

@user-wy8wi7qx8n

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@@C.chamaeleon Друг, взгляни на себя, пишешь стандартными шаблонами. И если ты не бот, попытайся напрячь мозги. У России всё нормально, однозначно лучше чем у вас. И война эта не за Украину, кому нищеброды нужны? Война идёт за передел мира. Гегемон сдулся, а свято место пусто не бывает. Мир разделят на сферы влияния несколько стран, в их числе Европы не будет. Слушайте Путина он же всё открытым текстом говорит, эта возня займёт лет десять, потом всё устаканится. Главное, что бы никто в порыве слабости не нажал красную кнопку. Можешь не сомневаться у нас ракет на весь запад хватит.

@C.chamaeleon

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@@user-wy8wi7qx8n лишь бы тебе крепче спалось, аминь)

@C.chamaeleon

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@@user-wy8wi7qx8n какой передел европы и кем? Тем сбродом, что за год не смогли Авдеевку взять?)) не смеши наши стиральные машины

Russia helped the US with maps and intel in Afghanistan after 9/11 happened, and how did the US repay Russia, by starting a war in Ukraine