My man Hax could've cured cancer by now but he instead chooses to have a PhD in melee calculus

@anthonymendoza1551

4 жыл бұрын

Xervelgarde LOOL

@MoralesAlex805

4 жыл бұрын

He just doesn’t want to lose...

@uppercutgrandma4425

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, he chose to do something comparatively meaningless with his time. Lols

@zigafide

2 жыл бұрын

@@uppercutgrandma4425 if there is no entertainment, living is useless, thus curing cancer is useless lmfao

Hax flexing his PhD in melee

I thought it was gonna be a L+R+A+Start Fox kinda thing

@buiItnotbought

4 жыл бұрын

C falcon boxx for optimal speed pressing those

@mantistoboggan537

4 жыл бұрын

When he showed the chart of tournament viable characters and when they can execute frame 1 gravity, I was expecting it to just be Fox across the columns haha

Every samus main that ever practiced ESAM missiles: "yep, that's a thing"

@ARMTOAST

4 жыл бұрын

exactly my thoughts

@SlunkyBoi

4 жыл бұрын

Every samus player and DJ Nintendo: hahah yuuuup that’s a thing

@nudl4668

4 жыл бұрын

Can confirm, i've known this for a long time.

"frame 1 gravity" f1g i hereby dub these fig aerials

@yelv

4 жыл бұрын

Fig gang

@DrewZGmusic

4 жыл бұрын

Big agree

@deafbyhiphop

4 жыл бұрын

My figgas

@gerudokupo2225

4 жыл бұрын

I prefer FOG

@ursamajor4684

4 жыл бұрын

@@gerudokupo2225 shit that might be better

“This statistic is called, gravity”

Hax's voice belongs on National Geographic documentary Ideally an episode about Foxes

@mackenzieb6397

4 жыл бұрын

Not an episode about Falcons? :,(

"In this video, I will be revealing what I consider to be the most important technique in Melee that nobody talks about. This technique is known as multishining, and is often overlo-"

Oh my god. the thought of nairing oos with sheik and more consistently hitting them with it is making me salivate

@deafbyhiphop

4 жыл бұрын

Its making me tremble in fear

@pIayingwithmahwii

4 жыл бұрын

@@deafbyhiphop same. sheik is bad but hes lame

@mog5326

4 жыл бұрын

@@pIayingwithmahwii she* dont know if it was a typo

@pIayingwithmahwii

4 жыл бұрын

@@mog5326 sheik is a man

@mog5326

4 жыл бұрын

@@pIayingwithmahwii no ^^ sheik is zelda disguised as a shiekah

Glad I half claw with X

@bobsmith93

4 жыл бұрын

Hey look, it's ssbu hax$. You guys should collaborate

@lambchu6459

4 жыл бұрын

Gims always wins

@Mannydude96

4 жыл бұрын

@DiscoFalcon wanna beat Hax? Yeah that is too hard bud. Wanna have fun with friends and do cool combos on each other? Not too hard man, just a small tech skill curve.

@namenamename390

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mannydude96 I wouldn't call it small, especially when coming from any other smash game.

@Mannydude96

3 жыл бұрын

@@namenamename390 I would c:

Hax$ even has the most technical intellect Hax$ could be successful in any field and he chose melee thats sick

You can watch this demonstrated by PPMD vs M2K, where they were both spamming nair on Marth while waiting for stage to transform, and PPMD was very noticably faster, likely because he was inputting nair on frame 1.

@master_productions

4 жыл бұрын

Which set?

@AtticusRevived

4 жыл бұрын

Bump. I wanna see this

@tooglianprimus15

4 жыл бұрын

Yo I wanna see this too

@mystery_1155

4 жыл бұрын

@@master_productions Aight I'm gonna give up searching. I remember the crowd started cheering when the commentator pointed out that he was winning the nair spam duel. It stands out to me because it started out as a cheeky stalling/waiting thing and it turned into something pretty hype. Totally possible I have the matchup wrong, cuz my search is not coming up with any sets.

@master_productions

4 жыл бұрын

Mystery _ Yeah they actually never played in 2015-2016. Maybe it was marth dittos but with a different combination of players.

M2K told me about this in more general terms during friendlies like 4 or 5 years ago and I’ve been obsessing over it ever since. Great video Hax this is sick.

@HighDeafRadio

4 жыл бұрын

As soon as the video ended the image of M2K excitedly explaining immediately it flashed through my head lol What a dope guy.

@shady8045

4 жыл бұрын

You mean melee or the frame 1 gravity technic

@jonathanl3068

4 жыл бұрын

dude wtf m2k told me too

@shady8045

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanl3068 lmfao m2k just loves spouting the contents of this vid doesn't he, what do we even need hax for

Interesting note to keep in mind for Fox players that I discovered a few years ago. If you frame 1 gravity full hop laser with fox, you will No Impact Land on Dreamland's side platforms. I believe it's the same actionable frame as a frame perfect waveland, but you'll look sick doing it, and it's a frame perfect input either way.

@SansSeraph

4 жыл бұрын

if its a NIL, and youre doing it from frame 1 gravity, its probably like 3-6 frames faster.

@OMGwtgfhgg

4 жыл бұрын

@@SansSeraph So I labbed this a little bit to find out more following your comment. If you jump, airdodge/land frame 14 which is the first frame from full hop that you can airdodge and land from, then the first actionable frame will be 24, whereas jump, laser frame 4 (frame 1 gravity), the NIL will be on frame 23, so the first actionable frame will also be 24. So it is the exact same, just the laser land is hella swag. However, if you fuck it up and laser just 1 frame late, the you'll land on frame 27 (with no fast fall), and the first actionable frame will be 31, which is disgustingly slow in comparison. If you were to fast fall on the first available frame (21) to compensate, you'll land on frame 22, making your first actionable frame 26. If, however, you fastfall when you get a Frame 1 Gravity laser on the first available frame (20), you'll land on frame 20 and your first actionable frame will still be 24 as it cancels out the NIL and just gives you normal landing lag, which is the same as NIL laser, except it doesn't look as sick. As far as I can tell, there is no way to make it faster than frame 24, you may be able to instant double jump frame perfect waveland at a specific angle to save a frame but idk if it's worth it at all. Wavelanding gives you the ability to react to where your opponent is teching, wheres laser landing does not, so that is also something to keep in mind, as well as the fact that if you mess it up by a frame, you will still be actionable on frame 25, which is still faster than the next laser option, and frame 26, which is equal to it. Obviously this all applies to dreamland only so is super specific and kinda useless, but it's cool to know I guess 🙃

@night8002

4 жыл бұрын

how does a laser land not allow you to react to a tech if you're actionable sooner? also, did you test this on both sides? one platform is higher

@OMGwtgfhgg

4 жыл бұрын

@@night8002 I thought it was that they were different lengths, I didn't know they were different heights too. I done all my testing on the left hand side, however the laser land works on the right platform too. You can still react to the tech, I worded it quite poorly, what I meant was that you can react to the tech with the direction of your airdodge so that you are closer to them on the first actionable frame of the waveland, whereas with the laser land, you can only rely on aerial drift, which isn't as powerful. The reason you are not actionable sooner is because the airdodge forces you to stop your upward momentum and you will land frame 14, and go through normal airdodge end lag (frames 14-23). However for your ECB to be pulled up enough to laser land, it takes until frame 23 to land, so the actionable frame is still 24. Unfortunately fast falling to land sooner cancels the effect of the NIL and you go through 4 frames of normal landing lag as if from an empty jump. Hope that clarified a little bit, but I'll do some more testing on the right side when I get in from work.

@luketaylor9709

4 жыл бұрын

@@OMGwtgfhgg they're the same height, just different lengths like you said

Welcome to melee where 1 frame makes a huge difference

@mlalbaitero

4 жыл бұрын

That's every esport

@mlalbaitero

4 жыл бұрын

@Reno Quichca yes they do, cause then they wouldn't be esports. a ton of games have things that happen on individual frames. The only reason it might matter more in melee is cause the frame rate is capped low

@doomgu544

4 жыл бұрын

ahmost 22 frame rate is 60 fps, like every fighting game

2:00 Being a Luigi main, feelsbadman.jpg

Can Hax get the Melee OGs and retired gods together and start a Melee university already?my man has like 3 PHDs in this shit. Melee History by Samox & Scar Melee Stats by Tapho Theory of Melee Tech by Hax GC Controller Modding by Nez BOX Controllers by Hax Experimental & Applied Melee Tech by M2K Melee Trash talk by Waffles (in person) and Leffen (online) Melee sportmanship and mentality by Armada Yoshi theory by Amsa Melee promotion by Samox & Wife Melee Presentation by Slime Intensive Fox Course (Rotating professors determined by the winner of an annual Fox only tournament of retired players) Melee Distracks & The art of losing money matches by Chillin Applied TAS Theory by Practical TAS Smash Classics & 64 by Isai, Alvin, & SuperBOOMFAN (aka FalcoMaster3000) European Smash History by Amsah & Armada Japanese Smash History by Captain Jack & Amsa Melee Financial Advice by HBOX Making Emo Combo Videos by BBB Goals of targeted practice by PPMD and many more. If Melee had the funding and infrastructure of other Esports it could last a thousand years. edit: added more post your ideas below

@its_hokori

4 жыл бұрын

how to go out like a buster by mang0

@FromMarsToTheVolta

4 жыл бұрын

How to ruin your smash career with childp0rn by Overtriforce (bonus course: how to keep anyone away within 10 feet of you by lowering your hygiene levels)

@NAND512

4 жыл бұрын

fuckk this would be good

@jackclifton5434

4 жыл бұрын

Ken’s the principal

@e50013

4 жыл бұрын

Applied Melee Tech Courses (sort of like a gym class) Mix ups and crossovers with mango Nuances of Dash dancing with ppmd and zain Aerial drift mastery with hbox Elective course: Breaking Targets with LinksDarkArrows and sockdude1

Melee in 2020 is about to be unreal

1:54 people always gotta do the docs dirty come on doc mains WE NEED TO RISE

@EpikStylez

4 жыл бұрын

There are DOZENS of us!

People were talking about this in the early 2010's. PP made several posts in his threads for example.

"Melee Content" na bruh I subscribe for Hax$ content

Frame 9-11 huh? I knew you still love Melee Hell

Dope video; I remember hearing about this a while back because falco full hop doesn’t reach bf top plat if you input your aerial or laser too early

@windwalker9800

4 жыл бұрын

was about to make this comment, remembered you were literally the one who taught this to me, scanned comments and behold dad is here

@ThePastaBin

4 жыл бұрын

hi blitz

POG

@orb3796

4 жыл бұрын

*FoG

@TehPieLuver

4 жыл бұрын

phrame one gravity

I was expecting a "just full hop guys" joke then it dawned on me that of course Hax is going to say 20XX

What a fucking well made and presented video. It's short, he speaks quickly so I don't feel stupid, he tells you what he's going to tell you, why it matters and then the thing. Followed up by stats, situations it is useful and then goes over methods for inputting this. You are a gift to the melee community.

Bruh I don’t even play this game why am I watching this

Hax$ with the ytc videos poppin out. I'm used to seeing a video every 6 months.

Sweet video. I thought you were going to talk about the benefits of fasfalling before the aerial as well.

5:50 spidey controller pog

Quality content keep it up Hax$

Another good concept dug up from the Smashboards graveyard, and nicely edited in video form. Good job!

"Is entry level" What level am i then?

"with all the tournament viable characters" doc mains: am I a joke to you?

between these astute videos and Zain’s shitposts, quarantine is a whole lot comfier. Thank you Hax

KEEP. THESE. COMING.

Pretty neat! Thanks for posting this!

This dude talking about timing ur buffer and stuff on specific FRAMES lmao

@kelbydurnin165

4 жыл бұрын

That's FGC for ya

I kinda like this because it gives a marginal reward to playing frame perfectly that doesn't break the game but allows those with the precision necessary to explore whole new avenues

This is amazing! I can’t believe people are still learning new things about melee when it is almost a 19 year old game.

Hax plays melee like alpha zero would

Tap jump life! Easy short hops if you quarter circle from up to forward/back

is this basically instant aerials but explained with the function of gravity?

Hax fucking money changing Melee one miracle at a time baby.

Gahtzu method also works for instant upairs

I always have complained about Fox's nair. It's so easy to do and free, it barely have risk

"tournament viable" Put some respect on Kirby name

Haxx man, why the hell are you so interesting to listen too : ) Please do not stop these videos , they are awesome !

10 seconds in and I'm hit in the Wak's Advanced How to Play SSBM feels

Hax must have been tore in the inside when he had to say "tournament viable characters" followed by a graph starting with Falcon

For real this is what separates the top level from the casuals at least tech wise

The day of Samus has come

s2g this man could talk abt anything and id listen

Hax our here making some actual high quality Melee content

I thought you were going to bring up fastfalling before hitboxes come out and buffering l-cancels during hitlag. Which both are incredibly useful techniques for consistent, low shffls. This can even be done with fast nairs, fox and falcos 4 frame nairs are both possible. Haven’t tried with the 3 framers though.

@HighDeafRadio

4 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about how using an aerial cancels fastfall?

@MrMcpoop1234

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can't fastfall during hitlag. What I basically said was if you fastfall during startup and l-cancel during hitlag you're golden.

Have you ever been gifted a frame in your adult life? This is exactly how that feels.

i find it difficult to up air with the analog stick and Z out of dashdancing, i'll have to grind it out

i shffl by using the base of my right thumb to do a c stick aerial as quickly as possible after jumping. but im not very good at it since its not what my hands are used to, and its just weird

I thought this would be about ledgedash, but I was in for a pleasant surprise.

Pink falcon in thumbnail: I click

Bro it's crazy to me how people are still discovering new tech in melee. This game is insane

Me: Spends 15 hours in a training iso hack for the game perfecting my 1 frame gravity tech for tournament. Also me: Dash attacks a planking puff.

Bold of you to assume I can time any frame perfect input at all

Love the content Hax

i noticed this a couple years ago using tap jump for sh nair with fox, is noticeable faster (2 frames according hax calculatons here), as hax said works really well with tap jump (i dont play fox but i starting to use more tap jump because is useful)

A quest? I'm already on a quest

Why does this remind me of the bus for frame rules in super mario bros

I already jump with the analog stick and aerial with the c stick so this is great news

Alright a lot of things went through my mind watching this video 1. I love the original advanced how to play's references with the "you may want to pause the video" as well as white Falcon's combo on Marth on FD, as well as many other small details! 2. I just realized that there are tons of very important small details like this one that I know and never actually thought of explaining. Having made so many TASes in the past it actually never came to my mind that I could explain what I learned up until today.

Aziz, can you look at fast falling the pre-hitbox frames of up air to land faster?? I've never gotten around to TAS Melee but I think you will like this one if it lands faster. GL

1 minute into this and all I can think is "This guy's DEFINITELY trying to sell me something" 😂

Amazing content, as always. Love this stuff. Sub'd!

i wish this video was longer

Funny enough, the only reason I knew this is because you won't make it to the platform with the first target if you do a nair on frame 1, which actomatically kills the run (though you're using full jump instead of short hop in that, but same application)

Knew about this because if you do a move frame one with falcos full hop you can’t reach the top battlefield platform

"No matter which character you play" ... Even Luigi?

Is this working with Peach's Toad a typo because I thought that locked y-axis position?

Good to know that I can frame 1 gravity fast fall falcon punch

Can you set the right trigger to jump in melee?

Does anyone know if this is carried on to pm

Subbed for the melee content, stayed for the voice🙌

Is there a chart for every characters frame 1 aerials

(Noob question) Can I do this by pushing x and a both with my thumb? Like the tip of my thumb on X and the joint hitting A?

@danielbanco1695

4 жыл бұрын

Yes but doing so makes it hard to short hop. I roll from Y to A much like the motion for a a falco shine oos

Well that deserves a sub

Video is Godlike. Appreciate you Hax Phucking money

P sure kjh talked about this last year. Frame one Aerials keep you lower to the ground

these are some of the funniest videos on youtube lmfaooo fucking velocity and gravity, you're a nutcase hax xD

My hands hurt just watching this

@rob1996ization

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too

This is the kind of Melee content I live for. You and Asumsaus are so good with this type of analysis.

BACK IN MY DAY THESE WERE CALLED SHFFL RISING AIRIELS

I feel like I just leveled up by watching this video.

Very nice very nice! My man Hax$, make a video about pivot ledge drop/grab.

u go hax, beast fox

Imagine shortening Puff's name to Jiggs

Frame 1 gravity? Might I suggest the acronym, fog

Noticed I couldn't cover BF top plat with falco fullhop Nair if I was frame perfect (z aerials) but did land on plat if I was a frame late

i use z for aerials on most characters so i hope it will be easier to learn

I could listen to you say the word ergonomic all day though.

full hop no fastfall no L cancel, never seen before in tournament and therefore has no counterplay

Hax Money does it again