The Marketing Expert: How to Get More Sales, Loyal Customers, and Bigger Promotions

What if people aren’t buying your product or service because their idea of what it does is wrong?
In this episode, Shane asks April Dunford to reveal all her secrets about what makes good and bad product positioning.
If you’re an executive at a company, this episode will make you reflect on your current marketing and sales pipelines and ask, “Are we doing this right?” If you’re a designer, engineer, or marketer at a company, this episode will teach you the secrets to selling a product that will help get you promoted and earn trust within your organization.
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00:00 - Intro
00:56 - Positioning, explained
14:56 - Why is positioning important?
18:49 - B2B vs. B2C positioning
27:12 - When re-positioning a product failed
30:40 - How to identify customer's pain points
32:44 - How to position a product on a sales page
36:15 - How technology has changed positioning
39:49 - How to evaluate product positioning
43:52 - Who's in charge of positioning at a company?
48:36 - On storytelling
54:44 - Should a company have a point of view on the market?
58:30 - Dealing with gatekeepers in B2B marketing
01:01:11 - Mistakes people make with positioning
01:03:30 - What schools get wrong about marketing
01:07:08 - Secrets of B2B decision-making
01:09:27 - On success
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  • @diogenentirandekura
    @diogenentirandekura2 ай бұрын

    Real value from beginning to the end. No fluffy talk, no "manifestation", no "you can be a millionaire in 48 hours" clickbait BS. Just pure value from someone who worked in the IT services industry.

  • @aeksinsang932

    @aeksinsang932

    2 ай бұрын

    Right on! Gotta bypass fake gurus

  • @pounamr5711

    @pounamr5711

    2 ай бұрын

    😊😊

  • @filmawayvlad

    @filmawayvlad

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed!

  • @luboss0008

    @luboss0008

    2 ай бұрын

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  • @harmony0322

    @harmony0322

    Ай бұрын

    Mom I 😮want mk😮 ma 😮ma 😮😮​@@filmawayvlad

  • @abnerb88
    @abnerb882 ай бұрын

    Books she mentioned: 1. “The lean startup” by Eric Ries 2.“Positioning the battle for your mind” by Jack Trout and Al Ries 3. Jolt Effect by Matt Dixon

  • @StephaniRoberts

    @StephaniRoberts

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @ancestream313

    @ancestream313

    Ай бұрын

    You read my mind! was just preparing to skim through again and find the names! Thanks Abner!

  • @virtualcreationcorp.6179
    @virtualcreationcorp.61792 ай бұрын

    This woman is a prize. Best video on KZread i have seen in years 🎉

  • @tammiesspark
    @tammiesspark2 ай бұрын

    It's always refreshing to listen to a true expert speak and drop heavy jewels from start to finish. I learned a lot.

  • @leahleeds4289
    @leahleeds42892 ай бұрын

    I’m going to listen to this every day for the rest of my life.

  • @wholeness

    @wholeness

    2 ай бұрын

    Why?

  • @lele_home

    @lele_home

    2 ай бұрын

    😮🤣

  • @fendforguru

    @fendforguru

    Ай бұрын

    🤷‍♂️

  • @kcartesj

    @kcartesj

    Ай бұрын

    Can you summary in 3 part?

  • @Mantraflip

    @Mantraflip

    Ай бұрын

    I love this attitude! You get it. Any time I find something that resonates, I want to listen over and over until it becomes part of my philosophy. It becomes part of me. I’ve found you attract success by becoming more attractive. Success is looking for a good place to stay.

  • @Iftiify
    @Iftiify23 күн бұрын

    This is the most genius interview I have seen in ages on YT.

  • @knowtheebetter
    @knowtheebetter2 ай бұрын

    This is a true gem. April is really insightful and she's very clear when she's going from high-level POV to detailed examples. It's a very good interview.

  • @juliarays1271
    @juliarays1271Ай бұрын

    Fabulous. High calorie infirmation. Helpful. Nice to see an intelligent interviewer who actually listens and supports the conversation without interruption to show themselves off like too many other podcasters who make it impossible to listen. Love how they take notes with a pen and a blocknote.

  • @rogeriomoreira2323
    @rogeriomoreira2323Ай бұрын

    An MBA class in a podcast! Congratulations on the show!

  • @JohnMiller123
    @JohnMiller1232 ай бұрын

    This woman is fire! She's a wonderful communicator, delivering tons of value! Thank you!

  • @gregcastagneri25
    @gregcastagneri252 ай бұрын

    Great book called "Positioning," written by AL Ries and Jack Trout. A must-read for all marketers.

  • @user-zb1ft6ff9j
    @user-zb1ft6ff9jАй бұрын

    This is a long interview but really a good real value I see there especially when I needed to confirm some on point answers to specifics-- I just refer to how you categorize it here. 00:00 - Intro 00:56 - Positioning, explained 14:56 - Why is positioning important? 18:49 - B2B vs. B2C positioning 27:12 - When re-positioning a product failed 30:40 - How to identify customer's pain points 32:44 - How to position a product on a sales page 36:15 - How technology has changed positioning 39:49 - How to evaluate product positioning 43:52 - Who's in charge of positioning at a company? 48:36 - On storytelling 54:44 - Should a company have a point of view on the market? 58:30 - Dealing with gatekeepers in B2B marketing 01:01:11 - Mistakes people make with positioning 01:03:30 - What schools get wrong about marketing 01:07:08 - Secrets of B2B decision-making 01:09:27 - On success So, thank you!!!

  • @patricknyiti5303
    @patricknyiti53032 ай бұрын

    This Mom deserves a Nobel Prize ..Kudos to this channel for acquiring such knowledge from someone who knows what she's talking about..

  • @JV-gf3ee
    @JV-gf3eeАй бұрын

    This woman is a genius. This woman is a true leader in the tech game.

  • @AxelAxe
    @AxelAxeКүн бұрын

    Outstanding conversation. I’m getting so much value from this episode. I can’t remember the last time I actually watched a whole interview. Shane thanks so much for producing this show.

  • @allmylittlestories4224
    @allmylittlestories4224Ай бұрын

    No fluffs. She grinds each question to dust. She’s really equipped for sure

  • @paragadlakha
    @paragadlakha2 ай бұрын

    One of the most valuable 1 hr 12 min of my life

  • @paulbrereton5149
    @paulbrereton51492 ай бұрын

    More value packed into an hour than anything I've seen in a long, long time.

  • @pjmac5593
    @pjmac55932 ай бұрын

    Don't think I've ever been more disappointed to get to the end of a youtube vid. I could have listened to another hour .. or more. Excellent everything. Thank you, have subscribed and look forward to viewing more past and future interviews.

  • @svenschmidchen9873
    @svenschmidchen9873Ай бұрын

    This is an excellent masterclass of positioning. More value than in all coaching programs I have anntended in the last years for positioning a SaaS company. Thanks for this amazing value on Easter time 🙏🙏🙏.

  • @827023685
    @8270236852 ай бұрын

    you are amazing, dude. this is my first time here and you let the guest take the spotlight, you were almost invisible (compliment) but asked insightful questions and kept the conversation going SMOOTHLY. some big questions I have been struggling with regarding my project were answered thanks to this video so I'm grateful.

  • @peterputzer212
    @peterputzer2122 ай бұрын

    Wow, the best 1 hour I have invested on KZread for a long time. April Dunford, you rock!

  • @ElitePeeM
    @ElitePeeM2 ай бұрын

    That was a brilliant interview. The questions were excellent, the guest was articulate, obviously an expert and offered tons of useful insights with real examples. 💯

  • @GaryRabatin
    @GaryRabatin22 күн бұрын

    Were your questions provided to the guest in advance? The reason I ask is because she was quick to respond with so much value. Great podcast! Keep going.

  • @davideylerYT
    @davideylerYT2 ай бұрын

    This is seriously a master class on decision fear and B2B marketing - Spectacular information!

  • @ThisDesignLife
    @ThisDesignLife2 ай бұрын

    April is such a breath of fresh air with great usable example, no hype and all quality.

  • @Deanforbes
    @Deanforbes2 ай бұрын

    Love how she speaks with such clarity and knowledge! Great content.

  • @johndavenport8843
    @johndavenport88432 ай бұрын

    As someone who has been involved in business development for over 20 years, and built 4 industry leaders, I can tell you the information in this video is excellent. It is a must see for entrepreneuers and business owners. April was fantastic!

  • @GetAConnectGlobal
    @GetAConnectGlobal2 ай бұрын

    Each and every word from this is a masterclass. Not only answers but questions as well are well thought out. Excellent insights on B2B Positioning. Thanks for this class act!

  • @charleneostbloom4443
    @charleneostbloom4443Ай бұрын

    This is the best interview I’ve seen in forever! Now a big fan of this podcast and April Dunford. We finally have concrete lessons!

  • @sheristmarie-brokeredbyexp3751
    @sheristmarie-brokeredbyexp37512 ай бұрын

    Business to Business is so different. “If people understood how difficult it is to buy something, and indecision being a large reason are good insights. Thank you

  • @foundational
    @foundational2 ай бұрын

    This is probably most valuable talk i heard this year ! Super thankful!!!

  • @shantaletechwi729
    @shantaletechwi729Ай бұрын

    This is the best so far I have come across. This lady is a genius. My God! I can go the whole day watching this video on and off. Thanks for giving us this priceless value. Jessssss!

  • @danarobinson6156
    @danarobinson61562 ай бұрын

    Just made me see and understand how positioning can be frickin brilliant 🎉

  • @TanyaAlizaTV
    @TanyaAlizaTV2 ай бұрын

    Wow, so much value here! Your breakdown of positioning was so clear and thorough.

  • @katya_youstellar
    @katya_youstellar2 ай бұрын

    Such a great expert! Every minute is worth to watch! Thank you❤️

  • @RajKotecha
    @RajKotechaАй бұрын

    April is really smart - never heard of her before but a refreshing mind with excellent framing - def a new fan. The muffin example was Godin level.

  • @foryoungeustace
    @foryoungeustace2 ай бұрын

    Very enriching discussion. Just pure wisdom from an expert with a wealth of knowledge

  • @authenticpoint7812
    @authenticpoint78122 ай бұрын

    Fantastic interview, Shane! April is the real deal. I resonate 💯.

  • @alicabban6327
    @alicabban63272 ай бұрын

    How precise and insightful. Thank you!

  • @deborahrose7047
    @deborahrose70472 ай бұрын

    April is a brilliant teacher

  • @t.s.3708
    @t.s.37082 ай бұрын

    Wow, best interview ever. So helpful and easy to understand.

  • @Missrai22
    @Missrai222 ай бұрын

    Great conversation! So many gems, taking notes from beginning to end!

  • @lilyb2617
    @lilyb261720 күн бұрын

    Excellent. 👏🏼 I specialise in growth and GTM strategy and positioning is one pillar of my framework, yet I always tell clients positioning is the key. April explains this incredibly well. Most people immediately think of brand positioning only and miss all of this.

  • @ukanaomon7173
    @ukanaomon717328 күн бұрын

    A precious moment. Thank you for this. God bless April. And God bless you.

  • @aashutoshsonigra5017
    @aashutoshsonigra50172 ай бұрын

    I just ended meeting with my team on how to take positioning and found this video. It was absolutely insightful and fun to watch this video and also it has increased my confidence by giving me knowledge to solve my current probolem in business. Thank you so much for sharing knowlegde through video!!! 😊🙏🙏

  • @aharmon
    @aharmon2 ай бұрын

    So good. April crushed this. Clear and value packed

  • @spotsya1916
    @spotsya19162 ай бұрын

    Thank you for bringing this important topics

  • @JdeJ38
    @JdeJ382 ай бұрын

    Incredible interview; such a different explanation. Thank you!

  • @Techstar3.0
    @Techstar3.0Ай бұрын

    Great interview you can't even imagine how it helps to get rite way of marketing, please countinue episode like this

  • @veroniquemarie9037
    @veroniquemarie9037Ай бұрын

    So brilliantly articulated, I am going to love Marketing after all 😅 And I bought her book 📕 right away because I have my Personal Branding to fix in April, Thank you 🙏 for this gem 💎

  • @cricketheadz
    @cricketheadz14 күн бұрын

    Man, this is PURE GOLD.

  • @andrespineiroc
    @andrespineiroc2 ай бұрын

    What a fantastic example the Tim Horton's one! 💥

  • @theyetti90

    @theyetti90

    2 ай бұрын

    A delicious example that I need.

  • @martinnovak3949
    @martinnovak39492 ай бұрын

    Shane, one of the best episode!

  • @kseniagorovaya7794
    @kseniagorovaya77942 ай бұрын

    What an amazing piece. Thank you so much for sharing your insights! ❤❤❤

  • @rodneypate1693
    @rodneypate169310 күн бұрын

    Incredible interview. Dropped many 💎💎💎💎💎💎Opened my perspective. Thank you ❤

  • @RugilePenno-qr1nh
    @RugilePenno-qr1nh2 ай бұрын

    Thank you both, very inspiring.

  • @aquagreensorganic
    @aquagreensorganic2 ай бұрын

    30 minutes in .. this woman is a real deal! Amazing critical thinking and communication, thank you, Shane.

  • @nesrinekelly5562
    @nesrinekelly55622 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this interview. A mind opener for sure. April is wonderful would love to learn more from her, I kind of didn’t want it to end :)

  • @sulaimanfaarah
    @sulaimanfaarahАй бұрын

    In this podcast is the best podcast i watched ever

  • @yourcreativeleader
    @yourcreativeleaderАй бұрын

    Lots of goodies in here! Thank you for sharing this!

  • @0ioiuibgfg
    @0ioiuibgfgАй бұрын

    this is very insightful, fills gaps and correct misunderstandings for intermedium level marketers .

  • @Grace.Idiare
    @Grace.Idiare2 ай бұрын

    Wow, this is so packed! Thanks a lot💙

  • @Thedigitalalex
    @Thedigitalalex2 ай бұрын

    So glad I got this video recommended. My life is different now

  • @LinkProgrammingTechnology
    @LinkProgrammingTechnology2 ай бұрын

    Quite interesting conversation. It is so very true that a better algorithm can amazingly reduce the search time. I have an I.T. sole proprietor business based in California, U.S.A. I have to face bigger companies with huge marketing budgets. I rely on the better quality of my algorithms. There are five main factors at hand: (1) Awareness of certain technology; (2) Awareness of certain brand of this technology; (3) Wanting this brand; (4) Needing this brand; (5) Affording this brand.

  • @faithrich_
    @faithrich_2 ай бұрын

    I think I need to watch this at least two or three times before I can process all the incredible stuff she delivered in just an hour of conversation. Brilliant!

  • @jeury-tavares
    @jeury-tavares2 ай бұрын

    this video is on another level. A master class worth thousands. Thank you for posting this video. You should interview Jule Kim next on lead generation and SEO.

  • @DrumAdrian16
    @DrumAdrian162 ай бұрын

    Wow 🤯 Great interview!!! Thank you April

  • @Naonicat
    @Naonicat26 күн бұрын

    one of the best marketing advice i have ever heard :)

  • @pwrcreate
    @pwrcreate2 ай бұрын

    Solid intro! Such a good grab to kick off the episode!

  • @docreed7262

    @docreed7262

    2 ай бұрын

    Had the exact same thought. The Muffin Cake comparison is so good.

  • @TF-hx3kh
    @TF-hx3khАй бұрын

    I love this! Very concrete and easy to grasp

  • @AClassesMedia
    @AClassesMedia2 ай бұрын

    She is absolutely brilliant. A great mind

  • @elianasmith6330
    @elianasmith6330Ай бұрын

    I extremely like the video, man. Very helpful and informative. Thank you very much. It is presented so well too. Great, positive work.

  • @johnleesuccess
    @johnleesuccess2 ай бұрын

    love this! keep up the great work

  • @KristenNichole
    @KristenNicholeАй бұрын

    Great episode. Thanks for sharing 💖

  • @wisecattt
    @wisecattt2 ай бұрын

    so much value omg

  • @ZaahirJappie
    @ZaahirJappie2 ай бұрын

    I like her passion for her subject.

  • @shorttravelvideos9649
    @shorttravelvideos96492 ай бұрын

    April Dunford rocks!

  • @trialstud
    @trialstud2 ай бұрын

    This is just splendid stuff! ❤

  • @kimbess7498
    @kimbess749828 күн бұрын

    This is fantastic for both business and career. I just accepted a tentative job offer because I repositioned myself based on the feedback and insight I got while job hunting. I applied consciously and got a yes in 5 weeks.

  • @MegaPetchi
    @MegaPetchi2 ай бұрын

    Yo I enjoyed it! Thank you!

  • @cyberswitchtech
    @cyberswitchtechАй бұрын

    This is really brilliant!

  • @sachinshajan8066
    @sachinshajan80662 ай бұрын

    B2B vs B2C part was gem

  • @joycesmile123
    @joycesmile12321 күн бұрын

    Wow 😮 thank you for the very helpful information 🎉❤😊

  • @janeamorba5111
    @janeamorba51112 ай бұрын

    Like her reflections of listening to the client ! Focus

  • @ian5629
    @ian56292 ай бұрын

    I've been listening to this podcast for years it's my first time to see Shane's face haha

  • @helenagp1948
    @helenagp19482 ай бұрын

    Love it. I learn so much. It's a master class. Thank you.

  • @shorttravelvideos9649

    @shorttravelvideos9649

    2 ай бұрын

    It is, right? And free!

  • @mariamsherif_dm
    @mariamsherif_dmАй бұрын

    Marketing is T-shaped! Really resonated with that! Great Epsiode!

  • @career.inspirer
    @career.inspirer2 ай бұрын

    Amazing interview 🎉❤

  • @Theysaid-io
    @Theysaid-ioАй бұрын

    Positioning defines how your product is best in the world at delivering some value that some well defined customers cared about. -- This is a very clear definition.

  • @legacyholistichealth
    @legacyholistichealthАй бұрын

    Beautiful find! I’m all ears!!!

  • @LifewithSee
    @LifewithSee2 ай бұрын

    thanks for your knowledge

  • @instituteofaistudies
    @instituteofaistudiesАй бұрын

    Her name is April Dunford. She is a legend.

  • @kdec3023
    @kdec30232 ай бұрын

    Ok, so the first 4 min 20 secs of this video is BRILLIENT! This is everything (true positioning). Shane, how did you not respond to April by saying at least WOW! or that's the way to look at this, or great perspective, something?

  • @sheanathan3566
    @sheanathan3566Ай бұрын

    Great wisdom Thanks

  • @TonySchwartzNKY
    @TonySchwartzNKY2 ай бұрын

    What a great video!

  • @user-warning
    @user-warning6 күн бұрын

    Very knowledgeable lady.

  • @DivineMisterAdVentures
    @DivineMisterAdVentures2 ай бұрын

    I think I have this down. I'm mainly having an issue with roles and scale as a solopreneur. (All of a sudden that's a new word.) Not to mention - patents. Which has made me full stop, move-on to a different strategy because I have to have 21 different jurisdictions to secure. This fits in-between the arguments right about 6:00.

  • @arunsivadasan6439
    @arunsivadasan64392 ай бұрын

    Great content 👍

  • @christinagracewhite
    @christinagracewhite2 ай бұрын

    Positioning is niching down to hit the market the best way possible. It’s about being humble with your product or service.

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