"Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't objectively good" - I think 95% of guitarists these days need to really understand this

@derek.invyckb

3 жыл бұрын

95% of metal fans need to hear this

@JordanPool13

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I'm so turned off by metal. It's very rare metal draws inspiration from other genres, which is kind of important if you want to innovate

@mtgguiltfeeder4111

3 жыл бұрын

@@JordanPool13 Metal probably draws from more diverse genres than any other type of music.... one look at all of the diff sub genres says it all... hard disagree....

@aixide

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mtgguiltfeeder4111 Hard rock, punk/hardcore, folk and classical is basically all of its infuences outside metal.

@lollokopter11

3 жыл бұрын

@@aixide it literally evolved out of blues. There's bands with country elements, with medieval elements, there's funky bands and so on and so forth. There are loads of different inspirations

this is like that episode of spongebob where he shows everyone how to draw a circle. and in order for spongebob to draw a circle he has to first draw the mona lisa and erases the stuff he doesnt need.

@ChiefRager

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the inspirations came from completely mastered songs. So he had a good diagram with the help of other genius artists.

@leonardoestradavega2662

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChiefRager that's exactly what the spongebob example says.

@anthonysouza3413

3 жыл бұрын

@@leonardoestradavega2662 epic bruh moment

@mcstench8913

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChiefRager r/whooosh

@youmuookami7333

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcstench8913 I Like your funny words magic man!

it takes balls to reveal that the arpeggiator wrote the riff. good stuff.

@drivenelement

2 жыл бұрын

Barely wrote the riff lol, Tim’s just being humble

@dudarino666

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it gave him a seed of an idea. And then his immense skill took it to some insane level

@davidk7439

Жыл бұрын

Something that I really respect about Tim is that he's very honest about how he composes his material, and how much digital tools aid in the process. Part of it is due to increasing music's overall knowledge base being a net-positive, but also because for what he's doing, knowing how to compose it means very little if you can't play it. It'll sound cool when synthesized, but it becomes incredibly special when played.

@sparda9060

Жыл бұрын

@@davidk7439 I thik Tim does it that way because he said it allows him to be more creative and then figuring a way to translate it to playing it on a instrument makes it sorta special and unique since they basically doing an arranged cover of the digital music. Thats what I think of it when Tim makes the songs, doing creative covers of digitized songs from a computer program lol

@teemunator

Жыл бұрын

@@dudarino666 Yes. You can hear he's own flavour in that riff. Arpeggio body with added melodic riffs..

Can we discuss the fact that the drums are actually written and made digitally, and Clay can still play it perfectly? Sensational drummer.

@teacherfromthejungles6671

2 жыл бұрын

all songs are written digitally first, and then they figure out how to play them IRL

@JohnHenkamGangte

2 жыл бұрын

@@teacherfromthejungles6671 yeah, pretty normal procedure

@teacherfromthejungles6671

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnHenkamGangte that's how we did it with our band back in 2008. IDK what exactly is revolutionary here :D

@npc8261

2 жыл бұрын

@@teacherfromthejungles6671 I think he meant, that their instrumentals are most of the time really complicated, so it's more impressive to not just try out on the instruments, but write it on the computer first.

@auto1nfanticid3

2 жыл бұрын

isnt clay the bassist?

Tim be like "I hate this song. I'll learn from it" Genius.

@Loctorak

3 жыл бұрын

No wars were ever won by studying your own army

@9dnovix

3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of philosophy going on in this chain. I love it lol

@TheM.F.

3 жыл бұрын

Speaks a lot about his character. Most people would probably just tweet about it and hate the song indefinitely

@Ignore14

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheM.F. yeah instead Tim makes art out of it, true genius

@Loctorak

3 жыл бұрын

@Vexxter haha dw I didnt steal a whole quote, but the idea behind that one was probably inspired by someone like Sun Tzu anyway 😅

I love how he has ichika floating around like an angel on a cloud lol

@iforgotmyname2739

3 жыл бұрын

He’s just putting Tim back on the track

@miss_B_

3 жыл бұрын

bro i loved that part xDDD

@TheLazzarus101

3 жыл бұрын

saw this comment before it happened. was thinking you meant like on guitar, then he popped up on the screen on the cloud. I died lol.

@dumbnutz5145

3 жыл бұрын

He also floating above you in the comment section

@sushio4357

3 жыл бұрын

@@dumbnutz5145 lol

"just because you don't like it personally, it doesn't mean it's not objectively good" -Tim Henson 2020

@maJastoL

3 жыл бұрын

Very wise words indeed

@0Enigmatic0

3 жыл бұрын

"Objectively good" is a myth and means nothing. All that matters is that you explain your argument and reasoning with the text. There's no objective measure of good, and all criteria you could set is arbitrary. Whats considered "objectively bad because its not even in tune" means nothing in cultures with different tunings and temperament systems.

@UbiDoobyBanooby

3 жыл бұрын

...What tool fans constantly have to tell edgy music snobs who don’t know how to play any kind of music at all.

@UbiDoobyBanooby

3 жыл бұрын

@@0Enigmatic0 nah. That just sounds like objectively bad but with more steps.

@0Enigmatic0

3 жыл бұрын

@@UbiDoobyBanooby You heard it here first guys, if you live anywhere that doesn't use the western standard 12-tone equal temperment tuning, your music is objectively bad. It doesn't matter if all your country's traditional instruments have a different tuning standard, it sounds out of tune to westerners and is therefore objectively bad.

Can we talk about HOW DAMN GOOD is the Ichika's part? Specially his second solo, OH. MY. GOD.

@brendonpontes7705

Жыл бұрын

@@FelixAJRios yes it was

This is actually hella interesting. Hope the series continues

@dinom1384

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Please Tim!

@tenzinchang6620

3 жыл бұрын

Please do. We are starved for Tim content

@onespeccyboi9962

3 жыл бұрын

@@tenzinchang6620 I wouldn't say we are starved, he's doing less rn cos of all the work on album 4. But all Tim content is good content

@kronik907

3 жыл бұрын

1000% agree

@dudarino666

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. It's super inspiring. I'm no where near as talented. But it's expanded my writing. Thanks Tim!

These are great Tim!

@bubbie3533

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah they are RJ, and it's good to see you in the comment section. You have great videos on your channel too. 🤘

@thegreenknight1033

3 жыл бұрын

Yea of course its tim

@riffsfromtheabyss666

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, always fun and informative to watch.

@bluesdude514

3 жыл бұрын

Love your videos RJ!

@mikekristin7201

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, very enjoyable and informative. You really relay your process well

Tim be like “I’ll just picked two artists that have beef with and write a masterpiece by their songs”

@neilkenneth859

3 жыл бұрын

"Imma let you finish..."

@Brindlebrother

3 жыл бұрын

but BEYONCE

@potatopulse8983

3 жыл бұрын

This comment is a grammatical masterpiece

@teisguitar_old

Жыл бұрын

*people not guitarists, loke with polyphia music in genereal, objectivly sick but every non guitarist still think is trash

@CarribeanMonkee

Жыл бұрын

@@teisguitar_old hard disagree. Musicians and guitarists have a different kind of appreciation, but Polyphia manage to make very technical music catchy. I'm the only member of my family that plays an instrument, all of us, parents included, like Polyphia

I didn't discover Tim Henson or Polyphia until about 3 months ago but it has been one of the best discoveries of my life and watching these type breakdown / how to videos by Tim Henson has completely changed the way I look at music and making music. This guy is amazing and true Master of Melody. Keep inovating and bringing actual original sound. Pls and thank u

@chelfyn

3 жыл бұрын

Two days in for me, and I'm writing guitar riffs I've never thought of attempting before. Tim's playing and writing has been one of the biggest creative inspirations I've had in years.

@tylernichols3012

3 жыл бұрын

Lol I love the crucible emblem as your profile picture.

@amjb789

3 жыл бұрын

That’s gross

@amjb789

3 жыл бұрын

@@chelfyn that’s also gross

@dudarino666

2 жыл бұрын

Exact same here. Heard crush by Lisa x a while ago. Didn't think to check out the original. It's been a great dive. You don't often get the joy of discovering bands on this level

Dude... Finally someone who actually speaks how they wrote their tunes verses "yea so here I play this, then I play this, then I did this" ..... Like dude I can hear, I already like your song. You however really speak to the process and stuff. Seriously man, finally. This is super f***ing hip. Dont stop.

@loldoctor

3 жыл бұрын

Check out “on the one” if you like funk, it’s really insightful

@lulupiperu

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, this makes it much more interesting than any walkthrough/making of videos I've seen before

@whirlwind872

3 жыл бұрын

Guthrie Govan (legendary guitarist, if you're unfamiliar please get hip) has some videos on youtube called "professor shred" which are ~5 min vids where he breaks down various things about guitar playing that totally blew my mind, he explains things about music theory in a way anyone can understand yet the explanations provide deep insight into music in a way I haven't seen from ANY other guitar "tutorials"

@drummerdemon69

3 жыл бұрын

@@whirlwind872 no totally. Guthrie is the BEST. His are more clinical chats about guitar... These vids are more about a song and how he wrote it, all the way down to the track stem. Which is sweet.

@blaineyoung1728

2 жыл бұрын

Trrrruuueeeee

Next up: The Making Of Tim Henson

@anamo3548

3 жыл бұрын

Nah man you'd need to be verified on the hub to upload that now ;-;

@iamjustanadam625

3 жыл бұрын

@@anamo3548 lmao

@homosapienfactory6291

3 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHA

@DavidNwokoye

3 жыл бұрын

@@anamo3548 I was about to say that

@alexvidakovic

3 жыл бұрын

In a factory for sure, he's not human, but a robot with mild Asperger's.

They took Ichika off the song because they knew it would've literally destroyed the universe if it made the song any heavier.

3:46 I love the awkward silence after "So thats how the main riff was composed." Like this riff is just nothing to him

Love how he effortlessly plays O.D. riff without even breaking a sweat

@TFHeretic

3 жыл бұрын

It's almost like he wrote it

@iforgotmyname2739

3 жыл бұрын

If you haven’t wrote a riff you can’t play... well, I want to be you.

@TFHeretic

3 жыл бұрын

@@iforgotmyname2739 Easy, don't write riffs. That'll be 50 bucks for the advice

I meannnnnnn a breakdown of "Nasty" could be good? Maybe? c:

@jakesaylor3646

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly I don't think Tim or Scott know Jason's part, if you're talking about the end. When I saw them live, or anytime I see them play online, they only play the intro of it into goat. He's the Jason's part though. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZmWLtM6zm9yyibA.html

@DurealzForReal

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakesaylor3646 the hook is really fucking interesting too, thats definitely some trap shit

@yasno1450

3 жыл бұрын

yes

@albertocosta3140

3 жыл бұрын

This song is insane even without the solo part to be honest

@PeterAbud

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree with Tina. Even if Tim can't breakdown Jason's solo, he can share us the context of the whole song, including how they thought about Jason to be in that one, which would be really interesting since it's a very peculiar song.

Tim, your transparency and openness really inspires me. It legitimizes my own creative process, and pulls away the fear for me. Much appreciated.

Who would have tought that O.D. was a Taylor Swift and Kanye baby

it would be fucking sick if the ichika version would be available on like soundcloud or smth bc its fucking awesome

@victorbitencourt9481

3 жыл бұрын

same, it's amazing

@Wtvr2

3 жыл бұрын

wdym ichika version?

@r0sso_

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wtvr2 he showed parts that were played by ichika, they ended up not using those

@adamgonzalez3580

3 жыл бұрын

This song, as good as it already is, felt like it was missing a good solo, and it didn’t get ichika and it makes me angy

@AbsoluteAbsurd

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

I hope you're making this into a series, I'm really digging seeing the breakdown of your process (outside of catching it on a whim during stream)

When he used the arpegiator, that was the perfect example of work smart not hard.

”Just because you don’t like it personally doesn’t mean it’s not objectively good” is a great point and every musician should get this. If you separate your personal taste and analyze stuff objectively I bet you become better and more creative with your music.

“It was 2017, don’t judge”.

@TudBoatTed

3 жыл бұрын

I actually love vocal chops 😂

@joshforeman1648

3 жыл бұрын

@@TudBoatTed my favourite beats always have those female vocal samples

@TudBoatTed

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshforeman1648 frrr bro

oof the part with ichika sounds insane

@davi-es2ny

3 жыл бұрын

i wish he had released this version. it's just awesome

@ZRisyad

3 жыл бұрын

@UCv5nz9r3nKK5QkWoU-sCcLA tim said ichika was initially play some parts of this song, but then polyphia decided to finish the song all by themselves and put ichika's part in another song called "death note".

@Rob_Ethereal

3 жыл бұрын

I love it more than Death Note 😭

@matthiaschristiaens4831

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZRisyad No they didn't put their part in Deathnote, you can hear the part Ichika wrote in this video. They just wanted it to go in a different direction and asked him if he had any other riffs laying around, which he did, and then Polyphia wrote a song around it, i.e. Deathnote. So the part in Deathnote is different :)

@ZRisyad

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiaschristiaens4831 thanks for correcting dude

Tim this is amazing content! The way you break down the song and note selection is eye opening! im new to music and this kind of breakdown in music theory is something that master musicians and seasoned players can't explain. Keep breaking down these songs man! it brings a higher level of appreciation to your music!

I’ve probably watched this video 6-7 times today already. I love this, thanks Tim! Even the Ichika part, as different as it sounded on top of the track, was beautiful.

We don't mind if you do a whole "How to make" series with EVERY SINGLE Polyphia's songs

@tacostastegood3720

2 жыл бұрын

Preacher

tim henson and ichika nito are like a devil and an angel, such talent with such different sound and feel, yet somehow are similar

My guy, thank you! I'm new-ish to the fam but so down. Fucking love the way you explain your thought process and inspiration. Been plying for years and thought i was decent, but you sir are on a whole other level. Super pumped on yo shit, you guys are sick af. Cute puppy!

It’s so awesome that you map out your entire thought process and mention your influences and how you changed them into something completely original.

This series gives me the same vibes as when the smart kid in class explains the lesson to you

I would love to know how The Worst was made. If that was anything crazy at all, because that song is still so amazing. Also great content. Love your explanations and it's both really creative and informative

@hathaway.1166

3 жыл бұрын

That song felt so simple yet so complex

@nate7817

2 жыл бұрын

it sounds so acoustic-y as well

I couldn't put my finger on what made this video different. Then I realised that you never said "like" once. You knew that people criticized you about it and you improved it. Thank you for being my #1 music hero.

@XSpanier

3 жыл бұрын

7:52 he actually says "like" though ;)

@trywynricketts

2 жыл бұрын

@@XSpanier 😂

@g.o.a.t5975

2 жыл бұрын

@@XSpanier Lol

@jamiestotz7315

2 жыл бұрын

he said "like" twice while i was reading your text

This is great stuff, Tim. Exactly the type of content that just gets us even more engaged with Polyphia. I'm hyped to see you guys live again. Hopefully, concerts come back this year.

3:31 Don't mind me, just leaving this here for myself.

@nicovillazz

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxgemstone7257 what i meant was I clicked on the 3:31 and and ad popped out 😔

though i love ichika and his style, i feel like this beat was hella to "intense" for his playing. Deathnote was a good call. Love this series, please keep uploading!

@looty8982

2 жыл бұрын

It wouldve been way better had it been mixed properly, but yeah O.D makes me wanna kick ass and chew gum, not ichikas vibe

4:37 He says "Look what you made me do" as he shows the song structure. I imagined he was addressing Taylor when he said it lol

Imagine if they worked on an O.D 2.0 to create WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN The direction it was going sounded incredible with Ichika's parts.

It's amazing that Tim Henson himself is making thid kind of videos

@Loctorak

3 жыл бұрын

Well he's kind of the optimal choice, right? Elton John would be rubbish if he was doing it

@fromulus

3 жыл бұрын

He's just a regular dude, who happens to have been born with a gift for making music. I love that he loves us enough to do these things, it's all for his fans.

@therealmonster1209

3 жыл бұрын

@@fromulus yeah, humble

Keep making this kind of content. It's so detailed and well paced/thoughout. You're a good teacher Tim.

I love this, please keep doing it. It's dope to get a glimpse into the process. It adds to the richness of each track by connecting story. Tight work.

I love these Tim, thank you so much for sharing some of your process with us!!

we need the ichikaa versionnn

@improvingguitarist1595

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love more ichika collab in general but yeah

Tim the youtuber

You're so talented and it's neat seeing your thought process. Thanks for showing us this.

0:57 dont judge? excuse me. this was sick af

My weeb friend: who is your waifu? Me: iTs CoMpLiCaTeD

@klyderain8817

3 жыл бұрын

Tim best guitarist waifu.

Next he is going to tell us that he got the idea of NASTY from Backstreet boys , smh

@TudBoatTed

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@spamspasm8183

3 жыл бұрын

NGL I've always thought Goose had such a late 90s boyband vibe to it. In a good way. Especially in that nice little riff he does after the break.

@novander

3 жыл бұрын

it's actually from cardi b's money bag lmaooo

@cattamalon

3 жыл бұрын

@@novander uhh maybe

@Kibop123

3 жыл бұрын

@@cattamalon nah it is, he said it in a stream.

Thanks for making these Tim. These videos are really inspiring mate. Appreciate you my guy.

Love these videos! Hands down one of, if not the best guitarist alive. You inspire me to be more creative and try new techniques. Keep these coming please! Saw you guys in Phoenix btw. You were standing at the door and I couldn't even belive it was you! Never gonna miss a show when yall are in town!

First off, these are like bite sized masterclasses for self composing from inspiration. I love this. Second can we *please* get an ichika OD mix with his parts in it? I totally see how they don't fit with the vibe of the final cut but it would be awesome to see the song spun in a different direction!

Tim said "let there be a song"....... and there were songs

These are really dope, and I love the honest insight into where the inspiration for your compositions come from. I also really respect the attitude about liking certain music vs. recognizing it as objectively good. I'd love to see one of these on James Franco or Champagne!

These videos are some of the most inspirational content I’ve ever seen! An artist breaking down there own material creation in detail is worth its weight in gold. Wish creativity was teachable lol. This is better than lesson material I’ve paid for.

Just FYI Tim, when trying to select all of one note in Ableton (Like changing all E's at 2:00) you can just click the note on the piano roll on the left side!

O.D FT ICHIKA? THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FIRE BRO

@joopnotyop

3 жыл бұрын

Really wasn't IMO

I just wanted to say that I have been playing guitar for like 20 years and you’re band has been one of the most inspiring things I have ever heard in years!

Please keep making these. As someone getting into production and liking your music a lot this is great insight. :)

Lovin' it. You've already broken down my two favorites. Maybe Goose or Nasty next?

@Jydmd

3 жыл бұрын

Goose's my favorite!

@guitourney

3 жыл бұрын

Goose is da bomb

@PeterAbud

3 жыл бұрын

This are my actual Top 2 requests for him to do next lol. He has already shown a little bit of Goose in his "How to make a riff" series, but it would be great to see a video like this one about Goose, which is a real masterpiece.

I really like your songwriting style for guitar. It’s difficult coming up with parts that makes sense that don’t overcrowd the song, but your tasteful use of melodies really spice up your tracks. Very unique and innovative!!!

Came for the technical breakdown of the song, stayed for Ichika Nito floating on a cloud and the dog feetsies at the end

First of all, this is amazing. Hope you continue to make this into a series. Would love to hear a breakdown of The Worst, Rich Kids or Saucy. Second, REALLY hope you guys release that version of O.D. with Ichika. Got chills listening to his part.

This series just saved 2020 for me. Not even exaggerating here. Thank you Tim. This was extremely eye-opening.

It is amazing to see how the softwares can open up your creativity in those almost mathematical ways. Great stuff, thanks for sharing!

Super appreciate the transparency in this whole process. Cool how you can start with an inspiration and come away with something that sounds so entirely unique to you. The way you think about music is so gnarly.

The background music you made is adorable and uses the riffs from the song in quesiton - very clever!

Cool dude. Highly practical breakdown. Excellent compliments to the legendary music. Dope.

Generations of guitarists (and musicians in general) will benefit from Tim breaking down his creative process. That's why Tim and the rest of Polyphia are not just musicians but gurus. Never before have so many people been given this opportunity to learn from music crafters at the pinnacle of their game. Bravo!

Thanks for sharing your process with all of us. I discovered Polyphia just a couple weeks ago and was inspired. This content has me thinking differently and feeling I might be about to level up musically. We'll see where this energy goes. also...Ableton Gang! Thanks again

We definitely need more of these breakdown, they are so darn cool and interesting!

One of the most unique guitar players I've ever heard

Would be sick asf if Tim started his own Trap/Electronic Side project 🔥🔥🔥🔥

You're such a good musician and song writer! Can't wait to see you guys on tour!

Audio quality has improved. The sound of your guitar over the track on 3:30 is so tonally rich and satisfying. Keep making awesome shit man

The breakdown of The Worst would be amazing!! That song feels so Hendrixy to me

@teddy6732

3 жыл бұрын

It's got a clear Hendrix influence on the main riff, one of my favorite from them, and the first I ever learn from the boys. Would also love a breakdown

Have I ended up in an alternate universe where chris heria never started working out?

Great point of view about a song you don't like at first hearing...there may be something there...and that makes you wiser Tim I can 't stop listening to your music, though I know, it's your vision and gift, and that I' ll never be able to make something alike It's really calming and pushing you up, at the same time! And kinda clean and dark too! Thanks for these videos!

Thank you for this break down and insight to your song writing. It is very insightful!

Love love love this series. Learning a million things at once and brain on over load.

Quality video

@mrvlacp

2 жыл бұрын

no

Tim, much love from Croatia, keep the series up, very informative and helpful. gl&hf

these videos are very insightful and full of good advice, many thanks for sharing and hope you keep on with this series. Also, do 40oz next, love that song!

I love Tim’s attitude towards other genres and incorporating different sounds and not just going down the djent hole Would like to see crossovers between them and some of the more metal sounding rappers with high profiles

Tim is actually very cool and chill now he's dropped his weird sarcastic persona thing he was doing before, cool that he's so honest about using other artists music

I've heard the song hundreds of times but still cracked a big smile when you pulled out your guitar and actually played it in front of my eyes. Shits so insane hahaha

I love this series so much, it really helps me think about musical composition.

holy fucking shit that epic ending sounds sooo freaking awesome like fr I can't handle this. don't get me wrong the album version also sounds dope but it would be hella awesome if the ichika version was also available as a single or smth. like holy shit I think I'm having an eargasm right now. IT'S SO FUCKING EPIC

I’d love to see an “o.d. Remix ft. Ichica” that solo was lit

Awesome stuff my guy! But i would LOVE to see a play through and/or a breakdown of Bad. I feel like it’s such a slept on track regarding any footage of it.

These are awesome - O.D and Deathnote are my top faves from the album, so naturally a Deathnote 'making of' would be my request - especially as you eluded a little to how some of it was created in this vid!

This song was another masterpiece after GOAT.🔥🔥

@richardbutkis

3 жыл бұрын

Meh od is a better song than GOAT.

This is the modern day equivalent to watching somebody like DaVinci or Picasso while they are painting a masterpiece

How refreshing, an artist demystifying the process, and actually teaching how to do it, bullshit - Free. . . Can’t wait to see these guys do this live.

This is great, explaining how you created your songs must be important for you to share your passion not just for playing music, but making music too, and we get to learn and share in that experience as well. dope.

I lost it at the zoom in at "a bit of F L A V O R" 😂

The making of Drown, with Matheus asato explaing the solo, and you the harmony and inspirations

Dude this is fucking awesome! I love the way you just hear shit you like and completely transform it into something that suits the rest of a song.

seriously love your process. Much respect!