The show is so well written that Sam's deafness is why he doesn't attack Ellie when he wakes up infected. The best episode so far!

@yeeshimtired

Жыл бұрын

I was okay with just writing it off as having a dramatic moment. But that makes sooooo much more sense.

@Real69406

Жыл бұрын

OHHHHHHH

@peculiarpig

Жыл бұрын

wait, i never fucking noticed that oh my god

@blavet3000

Жыл бұрын

Of course! yes! I feel so dumb now 😅

@littlepoodle7443

Жыл бұрын

@@blavet3000 you and me both

The reaction to the bloater crawling out the hole is perfect just the way he stares in horror/disbelief is *chefs kiss*

@SlavicUser

Жыл бұрын

I would prefer bloater exiting first and then everyone is shocked and then after it some 20-30 clickers and that scene would be my favorite

@reeperdragon88

Жыл бұрын

As if Perry became stunned with disbelief of the sound and sight of the bloater, as if time froze momentarily from the terror.

@iaz8737

Жыл бұрын

U guys don't feel it looks like a mobile game trailer??

@Die4daReloaded

Жыл бұрын

@@iaz8737 totally. It looked too videogamey

@leonin9947

Жыл бұрын

@@Die4daReloaded To be fair, the show is a video game adaptation. There'll probably be more gamey elements akin to this moment seen throughout the series.

I love the little detail of Ellie falling asleep knowing Sam is infected, like a part of her actually believed she could heal him with her blood. It's little moments like this that reinforce that she is still just a kid. So many shows these days forget to write kid characters like kids so its pretty refreshing to see how childlike and still full of hope Ellie is only for that hope to be ripped from her with the deaths of Sam and Henry. Really helps sell the tragedy of her character.

@dougmphilly

Жыл бұрын

Ellie is the greatest character since Tony soprano

@kkrmzn

Жыл бұрын

@@dougmphilly fuck no

@Mixima101

Жыл бұрын

I also like when shows make the main characters flawed and able to make mistakes. Many shows these days have the main characters as perfect people who always know what to do

@jamaljames9331

Жыл бұрын

Honestly her trying to help Sam but failing really adds more fuel to her survivors guilt. Even though he clearly meant something to Ellie going back to the games, in the show she not feels like she let him down and it makes her determination to use her immunity for a cure more convincing

@widowswail888

Жыл бұрын

@hfc she’s a naive hopeful 14 year old kid. Not necessarily “dumb”

Joel went right into video game mode when the infected burst through the scene

@travispeayarlal1485

Жыл бұрын

man got Aim assist real quick

@andrewbergamann7982

Жыл бұрын

His Desert Storm senses kicked in

I actually felt that Kathleen's elementary school teacher vibes had the effect of making her even more unnerving than if she had been some rough and gruff character. I think this was done intentionally to show that this world can turn even seemingly nice innocent people into monsters.

@birdienator7377

Жыл бұрын

Makes it more unnerving that she goes about killing her elementary kids if they do something bad

@scaroian

Жыл бұрын

THIS! On EP 4 I thought her character's lack of intimidation made the scenes a bit awkward because of her soccer mom/elementary teacher vibes, but after EP 5, I liked this way better. Because damn... This woman could be that type of school teacher that we don't fear, but we rather get annoyed at, but their world has become so messed up that even someone as simple as her is willing to do horrible things. Giving her this vibe definitely seems to be intentional.

@alabaster3535

Жыл бұрын

@ian intentional doesn't mean good though. I couldn't take her seriously at all or feel bad for her at any moment. It felt really forced the way they tried to make us feel sad for her, and her attitude more than unnerving it came out like a Karen and it ended up being annoying af

@JH-tj8ps

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's because I saw her in yellow jackets but she was believable for me, and that guy in the beginning of the episode was not a minor connection, that was the doctor who delivered her, also I feel like she might have been a kg teacher before all this, so her speaking like this when giving "punishments"

@odinssmoke6351

Жыл бұрын

Maybe she was a teacher

On the HBO Podcast, Neil actually describes Kathleen character and way that she speaks as “What if a kindergarten teacher were in charge of the terror of the French Revolution? It’s this kind of just because your sweet on the outside doesn’t mean you don’t have the capacity for terrible anger and vengeance in your heart.”

I actually liked how they portrayed Kathleen when she was talking to the group of collaborators. Having her speak to them like kindergartners was perfect in my opinion. It makes her come across as very condescending and cold and almost “Karen"-ish lol. I don’t know I just think it worked pretty well for me.

@thestarspark2288

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Dolores Umbridge

@co2_os

Жыл бұрын

She is a gigakaren for sure.

@MeeshT

Жыл бұрын

@@thestarspark2288 I said the same thing. That eerie soft facade that is seething with rage and, in this case, desire for revenge. It was portrayed beautifully imo

@julioulloa5403

Жыл бұрын

I cannot belive so many people would follow an omni-karen that much

@Ren_Davis0531

Жыл бұрын

@@julioulloa5403 It’s easy to buy. They were all bloodlusted and she gave them blood, unlike her brother Michael. You see the way they killed those FEDRA soldiers in the beginning and you instantly understand that they are all as angry as Kathleen. She wielded that anger and gave them what they wanted instead of the forgiveness that Michael advocated for.

The changes in this episode were extremely smart. Henry and Sam's segment felt disjointed in the game but here it's a perfect symmetry and setup for Joel's *future decision*

@eds464

Жыл бұрын

lol ssh the game purist might come after you. I agree this adaptation(for Henry and Sam) adds more layer and fits better for the TV medium.

@jamaljames9331

Жыл бұрын

I agree! Henry & Sam were ALWAYS meant to be a parallel of Joel & Ellie’s dynamic going back to the games! But this time, we get to see in the show that Henry is more like Joel than what we might’ve realized.

@facuuaf

Жыл бұрын

@@jamaljames9331 It's like if Kathleen was Abby talking

@bugboy9795

Жыл бұрын

What decision?

@draag1846

Жыл бұрын

@@bugboy9795 The decision. Youll know in the finale

I think they way Kathleen speak is amazing. She is really soft spoken and calm but talks about these awful things which makes her even more creepy and unsettling.

@thepaintingbanjo8894

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, some people need to fking watch One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest at least once in their lives because I was really getting Nurse Ratched vibes instead of Tiktok karen vibes.

@ro4eva

Жыл бұрын

I was telling people last episode that she already fooled them if they think she's not ruthless, even toward the death of children by her own command.

I'm delighted that this show keeps on getting better, due to a combination of excellent writing, direction and acting.

@littlepoodle7443

Жыл бұрын

Seeing Ellie running and shooting was SUCH a powerful character development moment. I seriously cannot wait for season 2. Wow.

@KyuuDesperation

Жыл бұрын

Let's hope it won't become Doctor Who S13 & Game Of Thrones S8

@AXELVISSERS

Жыл бұрын

Episode 3 was a letdown tho

@Benji-jj2bg

Жыл бұрын

@@AXELVISSERS episode 3 was the best one lol

@AXELVISSERS

Жыл бұрын

@@Benji-jj2bg cause it was romantic? Ffs

The emotional acting in that last scene was absolutely devastating. There's no chance you can say Bella Ramsey isn't killing it as Ellie

@KingSlayer_.

Жыл бұрын

I dont know. The scene where they were digging their graves at the end she didnt even seem sad at all. I dont know if thats how they told her to act out the scene or whatever but for such a traumatizng event she sure moved on quite quickly.

@musiquefrique

Жыл бұрын

It’s showing how the extreme trauma is making her more like Joel… welcome to CPTSD.

@youarealwayscorrect

Жыл бұрын

She's still inferior to videogame Ellie in every single category

@stephenponnet462

Жыл бұрын

@@KingSlayer_. actually that's very real. Kids deal with trauma differently. She also wasn't over it. It's obvious she is devastated. You can be really sad and not be crying.

@Liiicek

Жыл бұрын

@@KingSlayer_. I think she was so disconnected and hellbent on leaving becouse this is the first moment when she truly realizes how much potential her blood has. She kinda knew it before, but now she has lost her friend and if only there was a cure alredy, it didn't have to happen. I think shes traumatized and also feeling guilty, so she tries to move on to her goal as fast as possible to redeem herself.

Another small detail I love in the elemtary room is when Sam and Ellie we're playing soccer, we cut to Joel looking at his watch reminding him of Sarah. Because Sarah used to play soccer LIKE THE LITTLE DETAILS

This show was made way better because of this episode in the way they showed an infected horde as an actual terrifying force even with machine guns, instead of just being able to cut through them like butter

When they came out of that sinkhole like they were angry Wasp coming out the Hive cinematically was awesome and terrifying. A lot of people love the bloater but that kid clicker impressed me the most.

@Poshcat

Жыл бұрын

She was so terrifyingly bendy!!

@cambion_entertainment

Жыл бұрын

I literally said “oh SHIT, that’s a KID”

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

That kids clicker may have been one of the kids that lived in that underground tunnel hideout

I really liked that during the action scene the editing makes it look like Joel and Eli are looking at each other. It makes it seems like they have this conversation without any words. Like Eli looks at Joel when she is about to save Sam and Henry. Like she said “cover me” with just a look

@LucasDimoveo

Жыл бұрын

She probably knew he was watching over her through the scope. Regardless her instincts were on point in that shit show of a battle

One difference I noticed is when Henry kills himself. The game focuses on Joel's reaction, while in the show it focuses on Ellie. In the game Joel sees what happens to Henry after losing Sam, and is horrified by it. Scared that if he keeps going on this journey with Ellie, that if he loses her he might go down the same path. This referenced in the chapter with Tommy when Ellie says that Joel shouldn't worry since she can't get infected. By focusing on Ellie's reaction in the show and having her trying to save Sam, it helps add weight to Ellie's sense of survivors guilt at the end of the story. Although Ellie was born into this world, there are horrors that she hasn't seen.

Bella Ramsey did amazing this episode. If anyone still didn't like her as Ellie, I'd be pretty shocked if that was stil lthe case after this episode. her reaction to Henrys death fucked me up.

@faresd2570

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone mentioned this. Bellas acting on Henrys death was the most accurate and realistic reaction I have ever seen on TV

@shatharobeidat

Жыл бұрын

THIS!!!! I get goosebumps thinking of her reaction, insane acting, Bella Ramsey killed it

@hungryblanket4413

Жыл бұрын

I loved the face she made when Joel told her to get her gun out

@youarealwayscorrect

Жыл бұрын

I mean she's decent, but nothing particularly outstanding so far. As of now, her videogame counterpart is better in every single way.

Druckmann's humility with regards to how story changes have worked so well TLOU Part 1 has made me respect him SO MUCH. It also makes me optimistic for Part 2 and how they will handle Abbie.

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

Same, I was just wondering the same thing. I think the second game story was mostly good, I get what he was going for, but it has it's issues. I can imagine that with the writer he is working with for this show working with him, they can fix those issues and make it all around much better .

When supercut covers a movie or serie just know its golden

What's most important: Ellie now has a definite plan and purpose. She's determined to reach the Fireflies as soon as possible to become the cure she couldn't be on her own the night before. That's why she left in the final scene and it's great.

@Alx56

Жыл бұрын

doubt

Underrated point - it was nice to watch an action set piece at night time that we could actually see! Too many shows are taking the Game of Thrones route of 'realism' in night scenes which means the audience can't make any of the action out.

The way Henry acts after he shot Sam reminds me of how Joel behaved after he killed the guard in the first episode. It's almost like they blacked out while they committed their kills before snapping back to reality and being shocked that they just did that. So happy that the show has been a hit so far. Can't wait for Season 2 and potentially 3.

@giogiolachance4313

Жыл бұрын

it is called instinct. They have seen so many infected that they don't really think when it comes to that.

@ccdsds3221

Жыл бұрын

What about season 4?

@Susanoo7108

Жыл бұрын

@c C dsds doubt they'd stretch it out any further than they have to. They don't want filler, so they won't make shit up just for the sake of it

@Walker-ow7vj

Жыл бұрын

@@Susanoo7108 episode 3 is filler even if it is good so idk about that brah

@Susanoo7108

Жыл бұрын

@Walker1444 episode 3 isn't filler. I've seen a lot of Naruto and One Piece, and episode 3 isn't like any of that. You actually see the Joel and Ellie dynamic through Bill and Frank, respectively, and Bill's journey teaches him a lesson that he passes on to Joel, who at that point still needs one more push to make him fully committed to taking care of Ellie and delivering her to the Fireflies.

Dude when Ellie dodges that one guy and then the truck rams into the clickers behind her, that reminded me of Battle of Bastards..Jon makes the exact same movements 😆

@ollelundin5567

Жыл бұрын

So true

One of the biggest W of this episode to me was how they effortlessly combined different levels and fights from the game into one giant set piece to make it super epic. First they merged the escape from the city with the sewer level while holding off on the enemy encounters. Then at the sniper's ambush location, instead of throwin the hunters at you and then the infected, they let both out together making for a huge climatic fight. It really fits better with the pace of a TV show, but also keeps at least something from every level. Also,really enjoyed the deeper characterisation for Henry. Episode 3 was amazing for me, but this one is right up there.

amazing acting from Bella Ramsey in this episode. I'll admit I had my doubts when she was first announced but after seeing this I know they made the right choice.

@bunniesbunniesbunnie

Жыл бұрын

she's an incredible actor. I just don't buy her as 14. she feels like, 18-22. It isn't bad casting. It's fantastic casting. just, as someone who has not played the games (but is currently working through let's plays of them), her body language feels older than my impression of 14 year old girls and who I was as a 14 year old girl.

@mildlyobesegoat7262

Жыл бұрын

@@bunniesbunniesbunnie she feels a lot older in the books imo

@artdjesus6267

Жыл бұрын

@@bunniesbunniesbunnie to think people wanted Kaitlyn Dever (another incredible actress). I'm sure she'd be great in these scenes but she's 26

@user-xx2bn8ib1h

Жыл бұрын

I got chills when I heard her reaction to henrys suicide. The sound she made felt so real.

@bencastellucci8823

Жыл бұрын

@@bunniesbunniesbunnie 20? thats kind of crazy she looks younger than 14 I think she just has a maturity that kids don't have in our world

The weird slow shot of Perry didn't work for me but it's so quick and the next shot of the Bloater is so great that I'll give it a slide

Joel had trouble seeing during his first shots because it was so dark. The fire was on constant when he was protecting Ellie.

Unless I'm missing something, every time the characters have gotten up-close and personal with one of the infected, we've lost someone we've gotten attached to. The writers are teaching us that interacting with the infected is a death sentence.

@ellielouise7005

Жыл бұрын

love this, great point

Best episode so far and I have to say, the theme of the second game "revenge is always a bad choice" was strong in this one! Kathleen's choice to not let go of her wish to avenge her brother led to this horde of infected resurfacing and pretty much destroying Kansas city's "infected free" status. I guess that with most of Kathleen's troops dead, the horde probably went on to ravage the whole city, killing everyone.

@ayersforce303

Жыл бұрын

Your right about that. To add to it though, dont forget. Kathleen and Military guy killed by bloated were only 2 people who knew of the floor in the city that was soon to collapse to infected so they are screwed from that sneak attack as well now.

@Sophia.Stark17

Жыл бұрын

@@ayersforce303 Right, I forgot about that! Damn, they're screwed

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought that too, like a parallel/foreshadowing of the second game story.

@abdullahnaeem7275

Жыл бұрын

@@ayersforce303 yeah so the free city of kanas will become infected again

Joel was only missing in the beginning because he was panicking. When he collected himself and his breathing became steady, he started being more focused and accurate.

@pyromot0

Жыл бұрын

that and he was getting use to the recoil and trajectory of a weapon he just picked up.

@cambion_entertainment

Жыл бұрын

@@pyromot0 this what I thought too.

@GeorgeThoughts

Жыл бұрын

@@pyromot0 when a video game throws you into one of those classic CoD sniper missions and there's bullet drop and wind affects and it takes a while to get used to it 🤣

I texted a friend while watching “It’s like Battle of the Bastards on shrooms”.

Personally, I found Kathleen terrifying. The thought of someone as riddiculous and annoying as a Karen actually being taken seriously and given power over a private army is just chilling to me.

@giogiolachance4313

Жыл бұрын

they are desperate. she is the only one with clear goal and drive. for the rest it is just better to follow... and no one wants to be exile from the group. it makes sense. the people who don't get it must not be very familar with the survial genre

The scene at the beginning of the episode with them overthrowing FEDRA was pretty brutal.

I think Kathleen's writing was extremely intentional. She's not your typical form of intimidating. But seriously, having someone who is likely going to kill you talk to you like you're a child is pretty intimidating, imo.

@jkelsey555

Жыл бұрын

hard to be intimidated by someone who waddles

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

@@jkelsey555 that's the point, evil can come from anywhere. When it comes from someone like Kathleen, it should be even MORE unsettling to you. If it doesn't, you would likely be among the first of her victims.

@jkelsey555

Жыл бұрын

@@dragons_red First victims? I'm not a pastry!

I loved the "slideshow" entrance of the bloater. It was an obvious shift in editing that we haven't seen making it noticable making the bloaters entrance more stunned out rather it being just something that happens amongst the chaos

I love how I always finish watching the episode and start counting the hours to seeing your video 🙏🏻 thanks for sharing your insights

I also love how the show runners decision of not including the airborne spores element in the show actually made the bloater more menacing. Instead of a fat slow zombie throwing somehow infinite blobs of spores we have this absolute tank just shredding people and leading the horde.

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

That's what they were in the game too, they just removed the spore bombs.

5:53 I noticed this too, I don't think it was on purpose but her constant cadence and tone of Soccer Mom/Kindergarten Teacher throughout was very funny. I think she was an essential part of this story and a very emotionally charged character, overall wonderful to follow, but at the same time she might be the weakest part

@GeorgeThoughts

Жыл бұрын

It was definitely intentional. In the real world, she'd be a classic "bit of a Karen" type who's condescending and a bit controlling. Once the apocalypse happens, any regular person could be pushed to extreme lengths as she does and the show is portraying this very well. We learn that her brother was the real leader, and she kinda inherited the role, so she's not a typical leader or inspiring person. She's a bit whiny and annoying by design. She struck me as being like those MAGA types who point pistols at protestors. She talks to the prisoners like naughty children because that's the only experience she probably has pre-infection of berating "naughty" people. It felt very natural and realistic to me. Not everyone in the apocalypse will be a strong badass or maniacal villain.

Another absolute banger and always enjoy your review Supercuts 👌

Big fan. You mentioned you were annoyed Joel didn't miss while sniper but he did miss, when the little girl zombie went into the bus. It also showed his frustration and fear as he now knew he didn't have a good shot to take the girl zombie out.

@traviscue2099

Жыл бұрын

We only saw the shots he hits too. You can hear his gun going off

@daredevil6145

Жыл бұрын

He hit such great shots - because he is Us playing the Game we have to Hit pitch perfect ... or else, the game will restart lol, JK

That child Clicker and the way it moved was the most disturbing thing in the show this far

4:10 i thought them slowing it down like that was like an ode to old fashioned action films that would do that slow mo action style

very good analysis of the editing. youre spot on.

Another cool fact is Sam is actually deaf. Or the actor is, they worked very hard finding him and Henry would always keep practicing the ASL, even having deaf writers/ directors come in to give their 2 cents

I think the way Kathleen acts is scary, she doesn't need to be more intimidating because she already is, her treating prisoners like children who've done something wrong belittles them, only to then kill them after treating them like children, shows that she really doesn't care who you are, cross her you die, and if you happen to be a kid related to someone who crossed her, she'll kill you too

I said something similar to you at the end! This show is so good I don’t even wanna watch anything else! I fill my week watching analysis videos like this, listening to the podcasts on it, or me and my husband are talking about it. It’s really that good. I knew the game was great but this show is just perfection.

Glad you pointed out the silence before the infected emerge from the sinkhole. It was a straight up horror movie mechanical trick that worked to perfection. Makes no sense in “reality” but I jumped out of my seat. Way better than a jump scare.

This big action sequence is one of my favorite scenes in the show. Before that, it was the scene with the clickers in the museum. The level of intensity in both scenes was fantastic.

Thank you for doing these videos, they're great! I plan to do a podcast about the show with a panel, and I'm bookmarking all your videos to share them in the show notes.

I had a hard time waiting to see this episode because I started watching the series with my partner who I see only Sunday!! Had to watch it without him because I was feeling so anxious 😭 broke his heart but it was worth it, sorry Fran

***POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOR GAME AND SHOW*** One neat detail about Ellie trying to heal Sam is that in the game, there's a conversation between Joel and Ellie where she wonders if she only has to cut her hand open and give a bit of her blood. Instead of lifting this conversation from the game, the series shows you why that won't be enough.

@paulorobertoramosdeandrade4260

Жыл бұрын

The series does not show why wont be enough... the series shows that IS NOT enough :-(

@Alx56

Жыл бұрын

@@paulorobertoramosdeandrade4260 oh wow you can english a little better

@paulorobertoramosdeandrade4260

Жыл бұрын

@@Alx56 of course I can, im not a native english speaker ☺️

Rip tommy. This show is so good and has rekindled my faith in some show writers and directors.

Cathleens story foreshadows later themes so heavily in such a great way, connects part 1 and part 2 thematically

what i loved in the big zombie scene of episode 5 was the audio in the end. the stark contrast from loud carnage to complete silence was awesome.

I was absolutely terrified by Kathleen, because she seems like someone who should be empathetic, but she is actually ruthless and only focused on revenge. Very unnerving. Its genius in my opinion. On another note, I hope Lamar Johnson gets more parts, he was absolutely amazing in this episode.

i honestly liked kathleen having the kindergarten teacher vibe because it contrasted her like murderous tendencies in a way that made her seem really fucking crazy which i appreciated

One minor correction (and in the end it's inconsequential I admit) but the infected aren't undead. They're all still alive.

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's a leagacy think that still happens in all "zombie" media these days. The OG Romero zombie was undead, the dead being reanimated, looking for brains. In the early 2000s with the revival by the Snyder's DotD remake and 28 days later (among others), zombies became "infected", humans infected with a virus (or fungus) where they are still alive just transformed into a monster. Unfortunately the legacy concept still gets conflated by folks.

@GeorgeThoughts

Жыл бұрын

Probably just a slip of the tongue error caused by talking about Hardhome just before, where they really are undead in the magical sense.

8:00 There's a subtle detail between Henry and Sam. When the old man sniper had them pointed down. Henry and Sam tried to run away. Sam didn't notice and was yanked back by Henry. Indicating that he's very much tethered to his brother. It's something you wouldn't notice as things heat up.

Just watching your video got me hyped up to watch this episode again for the third time.

I like your positivity and The Last Of Us has been really good so far.

I love the restraint they've had with showing the infected. It reminds me of Jaws rarely showing the shark.

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I think the changes they have made overall (like episode 3) were smart choices as the majority of the game is sneaking and fighting people and infected, and the show in general would lose it's impact with encounters with infected and human enemies, lose tension when they have to sneak around, and generally be more monotonous if they followed the game too closely. They are being smart with the change of mediums for the story.

Ellie trying to user her blood to save Sam is a very well added plot to the original story. I'm totally moved by this scene and feel more impacted on Ellie's the story in TLOUS Part II. This show is awesome, i have all faith that they will do well in the TV serials of Part II.

I think the time slowing down for Perry was actually a great editing choice. The fear immediately built for him when he heard what was coming, and if you're experiencing a great amount of fear you experience time dilation. It was extremely brief, but sold his reaction in my opinion.

I don't remember the last time I was so passionate about a tv show, it's brilliant

One thing I loved about the infected scene in this episode was how it filled in the gap in Ep 1. Because of the time jump in that first episode, we didn’t really get to see HOW the infection caused the downfall of civilization. Ep 5 gives us a glimpse of how it must have been, all over the world. Pure insanity.

great review!

I liked how Joel hesitated to shoot the child clicker where in episode 1 he didn't have any problems with burning a child's body. Such small moments show that he's beginning to have more for affection for children because of Ellie

The moment when Ellie writes her biggest fear is ending up alone was fucking heartbreking if you know the end of The last of us 2

the scene where the brothers die in the end had me sobbing like a little kid... again...!

To Supercuts, Excellent analysis on your part that is something I have never thought of before that "Hardhome" is roughly the equivalent of a zombie apocalypse scenario where the stakes of human extinction are made clear. To give you a couple of notes I have a guess Miss Lynsky's performance might have the mannerisms it did because writers gave her notes from things like the GE or Stanford experiments where researchers found even mid level, previously non violent supervisors in things like the finance or food service industry had what it took to be interrogators, concentration camp guards or run death squads when push cam to shove. In my old job we actually called that the "zombies get you first boss". So I think you picked up on something very important. Second, historically collaborator is one of the broadest brushes in human conflict. Her line of trading info for "apples", is reminiscent of the Vietnam war. American troops would trade opened ration cans (you broke the seal to make sure they wouldn't be stored to hand off to insurgents at a later date) to parents who were happy to get something with vitamins in it for their kids. (Platoon Leader, Robert Young) Patrols would later find these parents executed as "informers". Even in a brutal Fedra occupation there are going to be some girlfriends or charity cases who get caught in the middle. Not trying be a know it all, just appreciate your intelligence and wanted to share in kind. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions and have a great day. JT

this episode was so good !! I'm not super familiar with the game storyline so it surprised me how much of this episode wasn't in the game

Love how Kathleen's and Henry's characters introduced a more deep insight of how people after the apocalypse don't have any distinctions between what's really good or really evil. Like we see that a little on ep4 when Joel admits to doing the same raiding thing to Ellie, but I feel like when Henry admits that he handed over Kathleen's brother to FEDRA that's when I was really confused for a bit as to who's the more evil person, but then soon figured that it's no use deciding who's evil or not when you're trying to survive. You just gotta be selfish. Total 180 comparison to Bill and Frank. Great episode.

That healing scene does one more thing: It expresses Ellie's Will to be the cure. In the game we learn that she wants a purpose in life and that is her saving other through being the cure. In the show we have not really seen that, so the healing attempt was a good way of showing her intentions.

I think the fact that Kathleen was so soft-spoken only added to how unsettling her ruthless nature was. Here you have this unassuming, motherly-seeming woman juxtaposed with her issuing mercilessly brutal orders driven by a barely concealed rage. It was disturbing.

the shot at the end of Ellie walking away while Joel stands at the grave was also a callback that totally mirrors the end of Tess's death episode (ep 2), when the episode cuts as Joel had already started walking away and Ellie just stood there. I still sometimes can't believe they've pulled this off as well as they have, given the history of game adaptations. Just a bit anxious about season 2.

*** SPOILER ALERT *** One thing I liked about Henry and Joel's conversation in the underground classroom was how it foreshadows Joel's decision later on. Henry needed to do something terrible and damn his community to save someone he loves.

Episode 5 was amazing! ♥ Best one so far in my opinion. The writing was great. The infected attack was very intense. The story with Henry & Sam was very moving, even for someone knowing the game. 😢

I disagree on your final assessment. I don't think Ellie is moving on from this at all, I believe that given the events with Sam she feels extremely guilty for being immune. She want to get to Wyoming as quick as possible to find a cure. I think the events of her initial infection ( the last of us DLC), Tess, Sam and Henry are culminating in to very deep survivors guilt.

HBO really pumps out shows that are really high quality

Watching the episode for the second time…first on the tv and now the iPad ..soooooo good 👍

I can’t believe I just came across the title of this video…. That is exactly how I felt, after watching episode 5.🤝

Another amazing episode

Finally a modern show that uses set up, instead of just empty payoffs with shock value. Showing the crater in the basement of the building in episode 4 was perfect setup for the infected horde in episode 5. I just wish they explained a bit more what could that crater be, I didn't play the games so I would have no idea if I didn't hear that in a youtube video.

This episode was great, the emotional payout for the ending was fantastic, really character driven and punchy, we get just enough time to get to know those 2 characters and how they impact Ellie and Joel's relationship. the action was such a well done surprise too, basically what episode 3 was trying to do but better

The slow down with lower frame rate is intentional… it makes it more jarring and uncomfortable. They do this in so many movies and tv shows.

The headcannon for me is that he was trying to disable the engine and hopefully block the road before finally realizing he would have to kill again and making the shot. The evidence for me was that several shots were in the center grill where he didn't necessarily know it was armored with a plow. To me it makes sense since he didn't want to kill the sniper and would probably assume the driver could be in a similar position and that disabling the vehicle would let them escape with minimal deaths.

I love how they portrayed Kathlyn, she’s a character who was never like this before but revenge struck deep to change her and cause her to change more harshly with every little move she makes next. She presents this casual malice, a motherly figure, for a misguided by free group of people and a cruel teacher above the rest. But she’s not in this for her group anymore, she’s in it for revenge, not her brothers legacy but for his downfall being avenged and it causes her entire group to fall. That entire resistance is dead

He missed some shots, don’t how many, when Ellie was climbing into the truck. The wonky slo-no was jarring but it stood to show how wonky and jarring the situation had suddenly become for the unshakeable mercenary. Kathleen’s leadership was displayed in a non-typical villain way to stand in contrast to her “great” leader brother.

the bloater was a freaking unit!

Best episode! I literally tear up at when Henry realized what he did. He was so good

Guys it makes sense why Joel missed the first few shots with the sniper, he had just picked it up and was shooting it for the first time, of course it’s gonna take a few shots to dial in the gun the first time you are using it

Ok something hilarious just happened. I was watching this video and just as zombies jumped out of sinkhole In 1:18 i got notification In my phone. And my notification sound is Obi-Wan saying Hello There. Had To rewatch that scene just To be sure that happened

I find it crazy that Lamar Johnson played in a TV dance drama (The Next Step) and is now this amazing actor who made an incredible preformance i wish he didnt have to die :/

As an active reservee, I could guess that Joel had to shoot a few warm up shots, not for the barrel as it was already worked by the old guy, but for himself. He also adjusts the scope sight when the gang is cornered, so I see why he could start hitting. Plus Ellie was in danger, showing him focus more to protect her.

@dragons_red

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree, but she was also in danger when the truck was barreling down on her. But that part also had me a bit miffed that they did the movie thing where the character inexplicably doesn't get out of harms way (they keep running down the street in front of the truck instead of immediately running off to the side, into the houses where the truck couldn't follow). I get that it's a movie contrivance for the sake of tension and action, but it's more jarring than Joel miss/hit thing anyway.

druckman's role in this series and whole demeanor towards it really reminds me of how hajime isayama approached the attack on titan anime and it works amazing for both shows

Good boy, well done.

From a technical point of view the slow down-slow motion was 100% a choice.Because there are multiple ways to slow down the footage even if it is shot in 24 fps to look smooth

5:42 I think the difference is the timing. That first moment, they just took over, she’s gonna be so full of herself because she won, and she’ll feel invincible. So she gives off the teacher act, like a power trip. By the time she has to kill the doctor, she is panicked, she feels her ranks distrusting her, and she still has completed her personal goal, killing Henry and Sam.

imagine caring so much about who another person loves? I will never understand what makes people so mad and scared of gay people

@Crosina

Жыл бұрын

They’re afraid of their own feelings 😁

For me, I thought Ellie was quick to "move on" because she was so affected by Henry and (especially) Sam's death. Compartmentalizing everything. So I don't think she is learning how to close off.