I'm a bit shocked you didn't comment that they fed the crying girl her father's body after lying to her about burying it in the spring.

@kye4216

Жыл бұрын

well they cant exactly tell her shes eating her dad.

@andrewstephens5885

Жыл бұрын

@@kye4216 that’s a reductive point

@alfredohumberto2222

Жыл бұрын

But she wasn't eating his dad, she was eating someone else

@The-Doctor6969

Жыл бұрын

@@alfredohumberto2222 her own dad

@alfredohumberto2222

Жыл бұрын

@@The-Doctor6969 I'm not sure, they had more bodies in the resort. And those bodies were still being blood out so

The fact that Joel did all that while just recovering, in his 50s, and still in pain from his wound, makes you think how terryifing a healthy Joel would be

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

Joel was a good guy but it was hinted that he and Tommy did some terrible things. So he is very capable of stone cold murder.

@baron6588

Жыл бұрын

@@jonfreeman9682 I feel like he was a horrible human being by moral standards, but by apocalypse standards, he was just doing what everyone else was doing, surviving, no matter how horrible it may be.

@officialname9817

Жыл бұрын

He was in the military so…

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

@@officialname9817 It's possible he may be black ops. For example in the torture scene he puts the knife 🔪 in the guy's mouth and says point to where your camp is and it better be the exact spot where buddy boy points. I mean you don't learn that from boy scout? Then after he gets the info he stabs him without flinching then does a Negan on the other guy. Ruthless and efficient like a black ops guy.

@majones117

Жыл бұрын

​@@officialname9817 Tommy was military, I don't believe Joel has ever been confirmed former military

The scene where Ellie killed David broke me. The fear and terror that Bella captured with these horrible screams...I can't stop thinking about it.

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

She went full Gonzo with a butcher knife. She's ready for season 2.

@jimbof3571

Жыл бұрын

The hug and how Bella looks into his eyes brought tears to my eyes.

@RebootBF4

Жыл бұрын

Bruh how does that break you Weak sheep

@rodrigovaccari7547

Жыл бұрын

@@jimbof3571 I really liked how she mumbles after understanding it's Joel. It's like her brain can't process all the information after realizing she doesn't need to be in flight or fight anymore. Looks very realistic.

@iVo42928f

Жыл бұрын

Ha, watched the episode in my living room and my housemate had just come into the living room too as that scene played out. He just heard the screaming and stabbing without knowing any context, and got quite disturbed. That said, I did not expect it to be such a brutal scene even after all Ellie did to get there. The scene with Joel afterwards really topped that off, another majestic episode.

I think we all knew Pedro was fully capable of doing what he's doing. We expected him to be this good. Bella had the room to show us what they're capable of and that's what makes this performance so captivating. They're equally fantastic and it makes the show a million times better for it.

@thatkidwiththehoodie

Жыл бұрын

In fairness, Bella’s acting chops have been evident since their days in Game of Thrones. Nowadays, however… holy shit, they’ve upped their own ante. They’ve got one hell of a career ahead of them.

@sarcasmxkate

Жыл бұрын

@@thatkidwiththehoodie oh for sure. I've always thought they were immensely talented. They were fantastic in Catherine Called Birdy too. But obviously Pedro has decades of experience so people were more confident in him. Just another beautiful underdog story.

Wow, this was by far the most stressful episode to watch for me. The acting, writing and direction are all stellar, and although the season is almost over, I'm pleased that Season 2 has already been confirmed.

@Petalflipper

Жыл бұрын

Honestly this episode had me SO stressed the entire time, BECAUSE I knew exactly what happened. I can't imagine how it was for people who didn't know how it went.

@Sjarambula

Жыл бұрын

​@@Petalflipper I've never played the game and know nothing about it. The entire episode I was hanging off my chair with anxiety.

@bigtimetrivtrav

Жыл бұрын

The episode wasn’t as stressful as the next few years will be as we wait for season 2

@juwe7143

Жыл бұрын

Let me give you a little bit of advice: NEVER mention Season 2 of this show to the community, it's insane how much they like to give spoilers about certain plotpoints

@editating_2614

Жыл бұрын

@@juwe7143 The whole second game is a spoiler

2:54 is a beautiful demonstration of symbolism and cinematography… After we hear Joel call Ellie “Baby Girl” (which is what Joel called his daughter Sarah) we get a closeup of Joel and Ellie embracing with Joel’s broken watch prominently displayed… Simply Fanstatic

@ashamarinella

Жыл бұрын

Agree!! I love that the watch was sooo visible

@cflo1386

Жыл бұрын

Damn, I have to be honest I didn't notice the watch.

@Bakedcakeyyy

Жыл бұрын

It was genius. I immediately noticed it when he said "baby girl" and I cried my ass off remembering Sarah and how much she meant to Joel.

@roxazzino3115

Жыл бұрын

shit thank you, while watching that scene my eye instantly caught the watch but i forgot why it seemed important

@lunaretic3

Жыл бұрын

His daughter probably lookin down from heaven like "biiiiitch takin my place.."

Theirs also a unique little detail that i truly love, and that’s that when David captures Ellie, he takes off her jacket and puts her in a cage. But when she is reunited with Joel, Joel right away gives her his jacket to stay warm. One only called himself “father” on the surface level and wanted to sexually assault her. Her true father hugged her and comforted her in her time of absolute need. One was concern of their own needs and desires, while the other only worried about her.

@mariebourgot4949

Жыл бұрын

Good catch and great analysis! :)

@aerieleah533

Жыл бұрын

True true. That's why the few people I found that shipped Joel and Ellie together bothered me so much. Like no, that girl is basically his flesh and blood now. And yes, there was a vocal minority that stated that as their reason to be upset when the Left Behind DLC dropped and Ellie's sexuality came out. Sometimes I swear.

@Tripod9648

Жыл бұрын

@@aerieleah533 i wasn’t even aware of these “shippers” started shipping Ellie and Joel together. But if it makes you feel better, every large successful fandom has shippers that don’t care about the context of their source material. Avatar the last airbender, South Park, Star vs the forces of evil, hell my hero academy. That one especially, can’t even talk about it. So don’t let them bother you, Craig Mazin and Neil truckmen are incredible writers and know who and what Ellie and Joel are to each other. And that’s father and daughter relationship. Nothing more, nothing less.

@johnnysins1624

Жыл бұрын

@@aerieleah533 nah that's crazy shipping a 14 year old and a 50 year old

@aerieleah533

Жыл бұрын

@Myth 9748 oh I'm well aware. I was a child who grew up on Supernatural.

As a childhood SA victim that scene at the end really fucking hit me. Bella's portrayal of that deeply imbeded rage and fear and loss and shock was amazing. It shook me up quite a lot, and it was nice to see her taken into Joel's arms with so much concern and love when so many of us don't get that. On another note, I came here from a side-to-side comparison of the game and this episode, and it's nice to see someone appreciating it. There are so many comments everywhere from people who don't go outside complaining about acting and nonsense because Bella doesn't look very similar to game Ellie. Thanks dude

@Chloe-of1bl

Жыл бұрын

Me too!! I watched her repeatadly stab him and I threw my hands in the air and was like "Great depiction!!". It was such a powerful scene. I cried when Joel held her too. It was such a perfect final scene.

@KerioFive

Жыл бұрын

I think the show is a great adaptation and the actors are perfect in their roles. Can't picture other people at this point

@fjkelley4774

Жыл бұрын

"... deeply imbedded rage and fear and loss and shock ..." Yes, powerfully captures all of that. The writing, acting, directing, and commitment of all involved has been significant.

@johnnysins1624

Жыл бұрын

Damn😞

@jemappellemerci

Жыл бұрын

That scene made me so happy, like it’s that rage like you said. Like I’m not a violent person but I’ve imagined absolutely beating the shit out of my rapist. She’s doing everything we could only imagine doing basically

Dude. I am sososososooooo sorry for ever doubting Bella Ramsey as Ellie. Ever since the second episode, my walls have broken down for her. This episode absolutely just cemented her as Ellie. Such perfect casting! The show just keeps getting better!!!

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

She's ok. Not great not terrible but what's expected. The game did it better.

@seanberdo5380

Жыл бұрын

She looks a bit different yes, but in what way is this a performance that you can just expect? Her acting is next level, what more could she do? Game and show are different you should accept that

@gallarinas

Жыл бұрын

you shouldnt have doubted her in the first place

I really liked James, the entire episode you could tell he was disturbed, being Davids henchman, he had seen all the evil and had clear emotional trauma from it, evil or not he knew what he was doing and couldn't live with himself.

@julietwilder

Жыл бұрын

Totally. I suspect had they not happened upon Ellie & Joel, the townspeople would eventually turn on David. Everyone seemed uneasy around him, he was getting comfy in his position & the mask was slipping

@thirstywolf8720

Жыл бұрын

When tjhye're going to shoot ellie, but David demands they bring her in alive, and James gives him this unsettled look. First time watching you think its because James hates Ellie so much for killing that other guy that he's certain she deserves to die. Now I'm realizing the unsettled look might be beause he knows what David likes, and knows what 'bring her in alive' means.

Maybe there's a reason the title of the show is The Last of Us, not The Walking Cordyceps People. I'm glad they focused their stories in the tv series on humanity and how living and morals are much more complicated in an apocalypse rather than reducing all people to mindless and violent people. I'd take it any day rather than that of simply surviving and looping around escaping infected. That shit's gone old for me, except for video games where I get to kill infected myself.

@javiermd5835

Жыл бұрын

TLOU fandom are coming to terms with the infected and cordyceps being just a McGuffin. Don’t be that harsh on them.

@bahamutt68

Жыл бұрын

I never got into the Walking Dead, Hate zombies as a trope nemesis. So I'm glad that they're not in every episode. Seems we lose someone in every odd episode, foreshadowing 9?

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

But we need more zombie action.

@baron6588

Жыл бұрын

@@bahamutt68 Oh boy oh boy, if you haven’t played the game. First of all get off the internet to avoid spoilers, and second of all, OH MAN YOUR IN FOR A DAMNED RIDE.

@bahamutt68

Жыл бұрын

@@baron6588 Yeah! Got s buddy at work that's waiting to explode. Gonna have to duct tape him for season 2 I'm guessing

As brutal as Ellie killing David was, Joel would've done far worse if he saw David on top of Ellie like that. Personally, I picture Joel holding David's face in the flames

@caronstout354

Жыл бұрын

After a little of his own knife work on David...

@AprilSunshine

Жыл бұрын

Omg Joel vs David?? Absolutely delicious!

@IndianChad2005

Жыл бұрын

@@AprilSunshine David stands no chance

I agree with you completely: bella ramsay has taken her acting to another level, she has outdone herself from GOT. I liked this episode a lot, looking forward to episode 9

@Alfofthyefax

Жыл бұрын

I really wasn't keen on the choice of Bella Ramsey at first but wow. Absolutely wow. She is completely draining every last drop out of this role. She's getting an award or I'll be writing a strongly worded letter.

@dolarizacionenaccion790

Жыл бұрын

@@Alfofthyefax totally agreed. She will be nominated at the least... hopefully she'll win something

@Aaron067

Жыл бұрын

"she has outdone herself from GOT" I mean, she was like 12 or 13 but yea, even though that acting was great, her acting in TLOU is even more better idk how you consistently top your acting every job you get but bella ramsay is doing that

@robertdraper5782

Жыл бұрын

I loved Bella in GoT but was a bit sceptical when I saw her cast as Ellie but got on board after episode one. According to the official podcast the final scene in this episode was the first scene they shot so all that Trauma and the inability to speak literally came out of nowhere, what a performance. Pedro and Bella' have been the Joel and Ellie I'd hoped for, it's the best casting since Stranger Things. I loved the game but I'd be more than happy if they go off cannon for the next season to keep that chemistry going a bit longer before it come to it's inevitable end.

@Alfofthyefax

Жыл бұрын

@@robertdraper5782 That's my worry. That in season two the chemistry wont be the same. Pedro and Bella were made for these roles. Bella didn't get that much screen time in GoT but she was a tiny warrior. To echo Marlon, "Who's this little pyscho?"

Bella Ramsey was insane in that scene with the knive

@mrf9893

Жыл бұрын

Bot

@taytoyaddic7ed881

Жыл бұрын

@@mrf9893 Good for you

THAT scene with Ellie and David was so graphic, I was clutching my pearls. Bella Ramsey is absolutely crushing it.

The wolf first tricked and followed red riding hood before he tried to eat her. David was never a Shepherd. He was Wolf literally eating his flock. This whole video was on point btw.

It warms my heart just how much all the creators and actors love the show, the characters and what they've created together. All that care for the story translate into the series and by extension into every person that gets inside the micro universe by watching it! I don't want it to end 🙏🏻😭

@mrf9893

Жыл бұрын

I love the series but the game is still better

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

​@@mrf9893 They aren't prepared for what's coming on season 2 lmao 😂

The ‘show don’t tell’ in this series is just so damn amazing, they always have me looking out for anything and everything!

This was for me one of the best episodes I have ever seen on TV. The acting, the characters and the storyline was so amazing i absolutely loved it. I even had tears in my eyes at the "Baby girl“ scene.

@vocad808

Жыл бұрын

Things are getting out of hand... "One of the best episodes ever on TV"... Wow, every single episode of game of thrones seasons 1 to 4 ist better

@musicalprodigy126

Жыл бұрын

@@vocad808 to you.

@Spoopy_man

Жыл бұрын

​@@vocad808 the best GOT episodes are better but def not every episode

@mariebourgot4949

Жыл бұрын

@@vocad808 This comment literally used the words "for me", they're honest about their subjectivity contrary to you.

@IndianChad2005

Жыл бұрын

@@vocad808 Fk bro There's a thing called opinion

Bella Ramsey is new favorite actor of mine. At first I was like “yeah, sure she’s a fine Ellie” but with every passing episode she’s honestly blown me away more and more, with her performance in episode 8 absolutely blowing my expectations out of the water

I liked the addition of the religious moltif. It showed a very real tendency of people to turn to religion when things get dire. David capitalizing on it was also perfect for his character and explained even better how he was able to take the town under his thrall. Appealing to religion for some; to base survival for others. I also appreciated the implications more explicitly spelled out in this adaptation: that he was a serial killer before this even.

@Sam-bm6yf

Жыл бұрын

I think they we're implying he was a pedo before honestly not a serial killer

They really did a great job by adapting from game and adding more interesting contents. Nice job HBO!

Honestly, I didn't even notice the detail with David bringing in the deer. I fully believed even after that point that they were actually eating deer meat. What I did notice on that scene was the sound designer highlighting the chewing noises as they were eating their meals, as well as Jame's hesitation to eat. That's what clued me in that this is supposed to be a disgusting moment.

@SEIKOCASIAN

Жыл бұрын

How can you even miss that? She literally proposed that they could have the deer in exchange for the medicine. And when they arrived, James opened and held the door for David to drag the deer inside :D

@xijinpooh4529

Жыл бұрын

@@SEIKOCASIAN Yeah, I get that, but I just thought they had some leftover deer meat already yknow?

@erin3967

Жыл бұрын

@@SEIKOCASIANyes, that makes sense but i thought it was just the leftover rations that they were talking about in the scenes prior

Lately, the Last of Us made me feel a bit jealous that it does better than the Walking Dead, my favourite show. Kinda makes me wonder what would happen had Frank Darabont stayed as the showrunner of the show. Maybe it could have been a lot more faithful to the comics or it could have been on par, if not, better than the Last of Us twelve years ago.

@VIK_1903

Жыл бұрын

First season of Walking Dead was at least just as solid.

@octavianmihu7861

Жыл бұрын

Up until "The day will come when you won't be" I'd say TWD a great adaptation of the comics (besides the omission of Carl's storyline and the butchering of Andrea's character), however the entirety of season 7 was straight-up filler content and it could've been combined with season 8 and made into a great All Out War season. Killing off Carl, Rick was the moment the show went downhill in a major way tho.

@justdan9264

Жыл бұрын

@@VIK_1903 yeah, that's when Darabont was in charge. Season 2 - 6 are amazing, but they're just a bit odd

@beck2752

Жыл бұрын

AMC left looking like the Wii U window meme, while frank is laughing maniacally at them. It's even sweeter when you realized the last of us used twd for clout when it originally was getting ready to release as a trailer for tlou premiered during the season 3 finale of twd.

“You have a violent heart” They’re definitely foreshadowing coming attractions. Fun fact: one specific shot in that scene is lifted from TLOU2’s cover art.

@JonDundas10

Жыл бұрын

Also, joel with the pipe

@javiermd5835

Жыл бұрын

@@JonDundas10 yes, that scene was also lifted from the game. They even used some gameplay tracks from TLOU2 during the sequence qhere Ellie gets caught.

the thing that really got me about david is that all the girlies knew immediately something was off. The directors in the podcast even described the buildup as almost undetectable, but the icky feeling was still there. I can especially appreciate how the actor for david didnt initally know his character's intent either, was shocked, and portrayed the hidden intent so well that people who grew up noticing these subtle, dangerous ques could pick up on it. Its astounding and i couldnt imagine trying to portray that level of nuance

The last few minutes omfg, one of the best things I’ve seen. I managed to go from mass stress, to catharsis, to crying in what felt like a matter of 30-45 seconds.

He nailed that David character! Top notch acting.

@Poshcat

Жыл бұрын

Yes! It was so much worse that he wasn't a raging lunatic, but a kind, logical, soft spoken guy just trying to talk sense into her...until he really wasn't that guy at all! Wolf in sheep's clothing indeed. Loved it.

@Anonymous-fj2uo

Жыл бұрын

He was hella creepy. I haven't played the game but I had an uneasy feeling about him from the beginning, the actor did well at portraying a wolf in sheeps clothing.

The variety of emotions Bella Ramsey has portrayed on screen over the last two episodes is incredible. Genuinely impressed. Also how very poetic to end such a dark episode with such a heartwarming scene.

About the "deer meat" - the actors in the kitchen played the scene in a way which hinted at this being not exactly deer, which I also loved because of how clever and subtle this was. Amazing show!

I feel like Bella's Ellie has been more emotionally vulnerable than Ashley's Ellie, which I think will make her even more scary in season 2.

This is the episode of the last of us I knew was coming, but hadn’t quite seen unfold before. The horror of human beings in their quest for survival and power. The analogy I drew was a pirate ship ran by a psychopathic cannibal captain - the only choices being surrender and be tortured, jump and be eaten by sharks, or risk death and take over the ship. Amazing.

@willnash7907

Жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, pirate ships were much less likely to be run by complete selfish psychos than merchant ships.

If Bella doesn’t get an Emmy for this, I will never refer to any actor as Emmy-nominated/winning ever again, because at that point the award has no meaning anymore.

Bella Ramsey was so great in this episode. It made me think about how the famous "golfing" scene will play out in a possible season 2 or 3. In the game, it was Ashley Johnson's performance that really sold it, and I'm sure Bella Ramsey can make it work in live action.

Agreed! I always prefer drama to action. Action is boring and easy, if not done right or is done too much, and almost no one does it right. But at first, I actually felt a little underwhelmed by missing infected sequence from this episode. I have scoffed at people whining about changes from the game the whole season, but I was a little on their side for that one issue. Then it struck me that dropping a lot of the action beats with the infected keeps us on our toes. They remain scarier, because they're not remotely overutilized. So I've come around. This is probably in my top three favorite episodes of the season.

@Alfofthyefax

Жыл бұрын

They've got the ratio of drama/action spot on. It's more about human behaviour towards one another than it is zombies (in this case the infected). Gamers who are whinging about the lack of zombies are missing the point entirely. Zombies can't think. Humans who are struggling for survival can.

@rikorobinson

Жыл бұрын

@@Alfofthyefax Agreed!

@Alfofthyefax

Жыл бұрын

Also Riko, just incase you were wondering, so far my top three are episodes (in this order) are 3, 8, 5. I've bawled my eyes out at all of them though. Too many child deaths for a mama to take.

@yourwrongimright101_69

Жыл бұрын

​@@Alfofthyefax whether people are missing the point or not, it's a fact that this show lacks zombies. People thinking that gamers wanting more zombie encounters are dumb has no idea what it feels like to see a loved game being adapted to live action

@Alfofthyefax

Жыл бұрын

@@yourwrongimright101_69 Excuse me? Did I say anybody was dumb? I've played the game for years. If I want endless zombies, I'll play the game again. The show is more than just running around shooting everything. It's about how people's minds work.

Wow, that point at 4:55 completely flew over my head. Didn't notice the disparity in the size of David's plate.

@caronstout354

Жыл бұрын

Never, ever trust the community/religious leader that dresses and eats better than everyone else!

It would be criminal if Bella does not receive some sort of accolade in future awards shows. She's fantastic!

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

She's ok. Let's not get carried away.

@ChristianConley-jm6sw

Жыл бұрын

​@@jonfreeman9682 I've seen you under a few comments saying this. Why so much effort? Let people have their opinions. There is overwhelming consensus that she is great as Ellie. Get over it.

@joao.fenix1473

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChristianConley-jm6sw he is allowed to have his opinions too. Most people are wrong btw

i like the part where they don't give you directly who David is and what he is deep down, but gives you clues and hints that your subconscious is filling all the blanks while you are watching and it makes you feel uncomfortable til the end where it finally acknowledges how sick and creepy he is, not just the cult vibe and eating people, but mostly the predatory vibe. it's vile, probably would trigger people who at some point became a victim of such monstrosity

@pucamisc

Жыл бұрын

Even worse by him saying he was a teacher before the end of the world of kids her age. Makes you realize the apocalypse was just a way to cover his disgusting actions

Whenever I think of the David and Ellie scene I start shaking Bella couldn’t have done better acting it send shivers down my spine it was amazing how they let Ellie actually kill him ,letting her stand up for her self episode 8 was definitely the best episode by far.

i love your videos, from all the little details in the episode, to the rightful praise for the execution.. and down to the comparison with the game. Love this episode and I've been constantly impressed with this show, can't wait for the finale!

Agreed on the human aspect of zombie shows. To me, TWD was at its best when it shows what the apocalypse does to the human psyche.

I like the way the shows have portrayed the villains. In so many movies and tv shows, the villain is an over the top screaming and “clearly” a man man/woman. Evil rarely looks like that when showing a public face. Kathleen came across like a soccer mom, but she was ruthless when trying to get what she wanted. David did slowly show his dark side, but you could also kinda feel it in the way his flock reacted to him. The writing, directing and acting on this show are superb. I’m obsessed.

The only thing missing was Joel's way of getting to Ellie. In the game, he has to kill so much just shows how committed he is. If they added few more kills in the shows, I believe it just builds up more emotion.

@DavidFDot

Жыл бұрын

he does kill the entire hunt party that was after him, there seemed to be mostly civilians in the series

@bendover04me

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't make sense. First, they're just civilians. Second, Joel is just recovering.

@IndianChad2005

Жыл бұрын

I mean those persons are innocent civilians

I heard a good point that we haven’t gotten obviously the same amount of action or violence but we have gotten so much in terms of character moments and development. If there’s just so much action with out any substance or reason then it would just fall short.

@kye4216

Жыл бұрын

totally agree but i think the show does need to have more infected, even if its just showing Joel an Ellie avoiding them.

@patriot459

Жыл бұрын

@@kye4216 agreed like more action wouldn’t hurt at all for sure as long as they keep doing so good with the characters.

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

​@@patriot459 It's easy to do that when the source material was already a masterpiece. The characters will keep being amazing, some more action wouldn't hurt

@patriot459

Жыл бұрын

@@HibiTeamQueso I think the choice to not have as much action is coming mainly from Craig mazin in or order to really focus the story but I’m just glad the main story points are being hit perfectly. I wonder if action will bump up in season 2 though so visiting it’s a lot darker of a journey in that one somewhat.

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

@@patriot459 I would think so

What really creeped me out was realizing how willing his men were to kill Ellie, not cause they wanted to, but to save her from David's other tendencies. I got the impression that they were just as afraid of him (not to mention the whole "you have a father" and making the girl probably EAT HER OWN DAD )

@pucamisc

Жыл бұрын

I just realized that’s probably why they were questioning why he wanted to keep her alive. I thought they wanted Vengence. Which is probably part of it

Might be my fav episode. I fell for it. David had me, I thought he was gonna be chill and help, and then they revealed the muggers were his guys and it was all down hill from there. And hot take, I really don’t blame them for cannibalism. In an apocalypse, you gotta do what you gotta do if you wanna live. Also, the game says uninflected humans are worse than the zombies. And the show and games really deliver on it

@mariebourgot4949

Жыл бұрын

The problem isn't with the canibalism precisely but the how they "do" canibalism. It's very different if they use already dead bodies than if they kill to have human flesh. David has shown he was pretty capable of doing so with Ellie and they litterally have a cage beside the table where they are cutting bodies, meaning she probably wasn't the first prisoner that they ended up killing for food. They also lied to a grieving wife and daughter about their dead husband and father's body not being buried and instead being cooked and eaten, and by said wife and daughter too!

@user-mo3gs6gs5e

Жыл бұрын

But cannibalism is a taboo and dangerous practice as you can see how David and his best men turned out to be: Perceiving humans as their food or sexual subjects. When people start eating their own species, their morality and humanity turned almost non-existence. Like Ellie said, they are animals.

@mariebourgot4949

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mo3gs6gs5e Actually as many anthropologic works have shown, this is a misconception about cannibalism as there have been many forms and reasons behind this practice. It's a lot more complex and nuanced.

@user-mo3gs6gs5e

Жыл бұрын

@@mariebourgot4949 I understand if it's for pure survival, still, hard to accept. It's dangerous in the sense that not everybody can keep their original intention & sanity especially not for David's group. The context and reason matter. Like in this episode, the right hand man of David was obviously hesitated about feeding on their people's corpses, but still, he accept it as he understand it's for survival. But in David's case, it's obvious that he would kill to eat. Not just feeding off the dead. Most likely he was keeping the people in town as backup livestock. You can see the different food preference/mentality: Ellie actually put in effort to hunt a game. David's group might have preferred the easier game (human corpse/stealing game) than doing actual hunting. Who knows how many in the slaughterhouse were originally dead or were they murdered by their own group.

@mariebourgot4949

Жыл бұрын

@@user-mo3gs6gs5e You talk like you believe eating human flesh can corrupt the ethic of a person in and of itself, but David admitted himself he was always evil.

Bella is going to be a superstar. Damn, my eyes were watering like a broken faucet when she ran out and hugged Joel. 😭

Thank you for the most intelligent, thoughtful, insightful, and accurate review of this episode that I have heard or read.

Another great video, thank you for doing these!

The people in the town were probably also trying to stay warm. They made no indication that there was power so they would most likely stay inside as much as possible. Making your body fight cold will burn through your calories quicker and they are rationing. If it were spring or summer, i would see them out and about, but in the winter...not so much. Would be curious to know what happens when they discover David and the other men are gone.

Bella Ramsey's acting blew me away hardcore. David was amazingly sickening in the most perfect way. When I think of the epitome of a sick POS I think of david from the game so this translated even better. Some insanely talented people working on this with love and you can tell. It reminds me of how A new hope was produced. A ton of different people with different specialties but all with a love for a specific concept. Doing things in new ways.

There's no way someone can explain this better than you did. Well done!

Wow, a brilliant and intelligent analysis of this episode. Thanks for posting!

Episode 8 was phenomenal.

THANK YOU!!!! I've been screaming at other reviewers about the very point you raised on why it doesn't make sense to have the infected in this episode. I understand it for the game, because its a VIDEO GAME, lol.

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

They could have squeezed in a 3 minute zombie fight for fan service.

I'm glad i forgot the first game i played back when it came. Watching this without any memory or recollection of events to come has been truly awarding.

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

Well it's just like the game.

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

I wish that was me, I remember literally everything so nothing surprises me and it's a bummer, still very enjoyable tho. I played the game in 2019 so, not that long ago

Bella Ramsey should win an Emmy award, I have never seen such acting, it’s unique, It’s so real and complex and funny and yet deep .. a pure pleasure

Every episode is a gem. What a fantastic series. I never played the game so this episode got very dark indeed.

@HibiTeamQueso

Жыл бұрын

This is just the beginning 😂

Bella's performance was outstanding in this episode. If there is anyone still not convinced by her as ellie then they must just be a hater

id also like to point out that in the begining of the episode they say its "too cold to dig graves" and that there having a hard time finding food and one more thing that sealed it was when the 2 cooks asked what kind of meat is this the long pause.

This was so good! Thank you!

Everything poster said was spot-on. 100% agree Bella and Pedro are nailing their character portrayals. HBO nails it with supporting actors as well as scenery and creature effects. I've been glued to this series ever since I heard it was coming out. Can't wait for final S1 episode, and season 2 will be amazing too as long as Bella and Pedro stay!

This episode was a faquing 10/10 The baby girl teared my eyes I cannot wait for the next one

THANK YOU for explaining the limited use of the infected. People say they want it for a more 'threatening' environment as if the human enemies aren't threatening enough. The explanation for why they're not in the middle of nowhere makes sense, and this isn't TWD where they just randomly have action scenes. The infected have only ever been used to progress the plot in a meaningful way, just like the rest of the human enemies and side characters in this season. If you want more action and less of a character-focused narrative, the game is still available to play.

I ADORE the games, but I feel like the constant lethality of the infected in the show works better for building suspense in a passive medium. It would be frustrating in the game if every time there was a single infected, it was like, "Crap! How am I gonna get out of this?" Conversely, it would be kinda cheesy if every time Joel encountered a couple clickers in the show, he was like, "Ooh, lemme make a couple shivs and crouch-walk around real sneaky-like."

Bella Ramsey was amazing I. GOT too. Her Lyanna Mormont was brilliant!

@caronstout354

Жыл бұрын

I expected nothing less from our Savage She-Bear of Mormont!

The rabbit has been saved! Aw man that made laugh 😂. Fantastic video 👍

I smirked a little when you said "realistic post-apocalyptic" show haha

Great overview!

Great review! I am am die hard fan of the game and this show became my all time favorite show. I rewatch the episodes over and over.

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

It's okay. Just a straight copy of game. Might as well just watch the cut scenes.

Great video. Unfortunately I don't like to see any previews before the new episode. Flash bang lol

I wish they had those moments in the show where David and Ellie fought off the horde because it established that false sense of trust. It made David more believable as a potential “good” guy

I don't think I ever cheered out loud a show hero as many times as I did Ellie in this episode. Frickin' amazing 👏 job!

Seeing Ramey here makes me look foward to seeing Ellie and Dina alongside just destroying the wolfs

"It's okay, baby girl." Is peak dialogue!

Quick correction for future videos, the word is not adaption, but adaptation. Great work as usual.

I cried at the very end

The episode was great, but there was one thing I didnt understand. At the end of the episode, when Ellie was attacked, there were a lot of gunshots and a big fire startet, but it seemed like noone in the town noticed, which I thought was very strange

@rogermazuca4582

Жыл бұрын

Yeah me too but i was thinking it was prob off secuded from the rest of the town since it was basically a slaughterhouse as the stench would be so uncomfortable. And the people were prob all bundled up inside.

@sportaflopsupreme5313

Жыл бұрын

I think the place they were holding Ellie was a bit outside town, far away from the other survivors.

@user-op6kt8pg9y

Жыл бұрын

That's because the show has a tendency to try and humanise everyone and then completely ignore it later in the episode

@Alex-gs4nk

Жыл бұрын

​​​@@user-op6kt8pg9y sorry but j had a stroke reading ur comment cuz idk what r u even tryna say

@user-op6kt8pg9y

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex-gs4nk you had a stroke reading a basic sentence? And then write a comment with lots of words and letters missing

i hope they do part ll and keep that parallel editing to do what they did in the actual game

My favorite part was when she told David. Tell them Elle broke your fucking finger

@jonfreeman9682

Жыл бұрын

And he says what was the you said in little pieces.

Never played the game, so no attachment to it, but this series is great, Bella is amazing, and the last two scenes..wow.

Probably my favourite episode so far

As we've grown into a zombies fatigue, with the over saturation of the genre with shows like TWD. This IS NOT that. This is something else. Something more. it's an amazing piece of drama.

David never lies to Ellie, he doesn’t tell her everything but that doesn’t mean he lies to her. It’s one of the scariest parts about David, he sees Ellie as an equal and he tells her the truth when asked directly about things

dont forget about the watch during the final scene! i guess it could've been "accidentally" featured, but thats the watch his daughter gave him the day the world ended! feels intentional and beautiful

Side note here, while the zombie count in TWD is obviously embellished, it is also explained in-universe. Walkers are constantly roaming/searching for prey. It was established way back in s1 that they were leaving the cities en masse for this reason. Walkers are also drawn to each other, so they naturally clump together like that-explaining the seemingly random forest packs.

Can't wait to see Bella Ramsey on full psycho-killer mode on season 2

@HypocritesExposd

Жыл бұрын

I. AM. VENGEANCE! Lol

One thing I had expected (since back when they had the truck & they camped out in the forest, b4 KC) is to see roving bands of semi feral dogs in these forested & out of the way areas..

i’ve been watching this with my mom and looking over at her and seeing the look in her eyes when Ellie was on top of David with the butcher knife was… something else. 10/10 show fs

I still think the attack of the infected was good for establishing a temporary bond between Ellie and David, since they have time working well together as a team. That David then let her go would have further cemented that, maybe, he wasn't the worst, which would then have made him proving to be the worst more impactful. I completely get that having infected in the frigid wilderness might not make the most sense, but it would have been a second opportunity to show that if you touch cordyceps in one area, then, like a network, it can draw infected to you...something they established in Episode 2 and then seem to have forgotten about iin every other episode.

I think that the cabin where they butcher people is probably further away from where the rest of the group lives. If the group lived closer, they would see the hunters come back with what/ who they've captured. There would be too many questions about prisoners and what happened to them.

@elaine3559

Жыл бұрын

Another chilling thought is of the hunters on the campus. When David said that "a crazy man who attacked one of our hunters", I was confused because it was the hunters who attacked them, not knowing they were cannibals yet. After it was revealed that they were eating people, I understood that the group was out looking for people to bring back. And the detail of Joel looking at the bag and realizing what kind of group he was dealing with.

Bella Ramsey acting is beyond amazing. They are able to convey such a strong emotion is hard to believe is not true. The rage and the screams, I still can't get out of my brain when they scream at the end of episode 5, such a tragic and painful scream when Henry kills himself or in episode 6 when they push Joel cause they're scared to be left alone, even episode 7 when they destroy the shop after being infected. Episode 8 is beyond my expectations, I absolutely can't explain how inmersed I was in Ellie's rage. I felt it in my soul. Wow...just wow, yup I agree is literally insane

That was a great rebuttal of some of the criticisms I've been seeing, almost all of them are easily justifiable in universe if you just pay attention and think about it for a bit

Perfection thats all i have to say about this episode

Great episode my main complaint though is that they should have had maybe a few zombies come around and attack Ellie and David as they were sitting together and maybe while ellie was reloading David could have shot one of them he had a gun the whole time and that would have given Ellie more trust in David. And David could have simply said offhand that's rare but every once in awhile infected you come out.

Now why couldn't the Walking Dead have writers like these. Basically the same elements here that were there as well and look how they managed to botch that up. They went for quantity over quality 🤦

@Jigglypoof

Жыл бұрын

I've never seen any of the Walking Dead shows before. I'm curious how the drama compares between TWD and TLOU. Like I've heard (unironically) that TLOU isn't a zombie game/show, but rather a love story. Does TWD focus more on action, or do they cover human problems as much? Because it seems like they go entire episodes in this show without even bringing up the Infected. Humans are seemingly an even bigger threat to each other than the zombies are.

@rogermazuca4582

Жыл бұрын

@@Jigglypoof Yeah the Walking Dead focuses alot more on slow tedious character development. So many ”filler” episodes. They try shaking things up by having the last 5 minutes or so if the episode kind of exciting. The performances here in TLOU are worlds better, same with the tension and world building. Yeah three zombies were put on the back burner in lieu of psychotic villains but maybe no mistake, TWD blew lol

Not treating the audience like they're stupid, wins BIG points from me. It creates tons of conversation about the episode/movie, and adds rewatchability, in which you will gain more info than in the last viewing. It is one of the most crucial features of good storytelling in cinema, imo.

@freezeframe1955

Жыл бұрын

The HBO show does treat its audience like its stupid. David was a much more nuanced, grey character, in the videogame, who was gradually revealed to be a monster. The HBO show turned David into a cliché villain who was a crazy, religious cult leader that believe in the 'Love and Bond of Cordyceps'. The show sucks.

@kywo209

Жыл бұрын

@@freezeframe1955 Completely wrong it was obvious from the first second he appeared in the game.

@christianmccauley7340

Жыл бұрын

@@freezeframe1955 tell me again how you want the pedophile to be “morally grey”

For someone like me who hasn't played the games, this show is really good. The fact that so many gamers seem almost offended by it says a lot about the quality of the games. I really can't wait for it to come out on PC.

@KerioFive

Жыл бұрын

It's a great adaptation as far as adaptations go.. it's pretty much one of the best! Game is great but the show is too

@Gropaquey

Жыл бұрын

@@KerioFive I know but I see so many people complaining about Bella Ramsey in particular whereas objectively she is very good from the start. So I guess that Ellie in the games must be cinematically awesome.

@HypocritesExposd

Жыл бұрын

Don’t listen to the morons hating on the show. TLOU is one of my fave games of all time and this show is absolutely hitting it out of the park. The haters are doing so solely because of how Bella looks. They’re like David, only most don’t eat human flesh.

@yuliusde

Жыл бұрын

@@HypocritesExposd Agreed. They are wibu simps who judge ppl by looks, not the acting. And also they cannot give even one movie/show video game adaptations better than tlou.

@pucamisc

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t heard people who played the games complain. I personally think the show is amazing.

I don’t think I ever want to watch that last part of the episode ever again

This channel is awesome