the iPhone 15 DRAMA | Genius Bar Ep. 133
This week, Jon Prosser and Sam Kohl are back after a couple of new iPhone 15 Pros and a couple of controversies....
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Timestamps by @InfiniteRegen
0:00 - Sam’s show n tell intro
2:27 - why you should keep listening
3:08 - Sam’s project
4:45 - Sam’s problem
6:25 - 15 pro has a problem
8:30 - iPhone is grown up
12:40 - Remember the Sam hate
14:25 - the biggest thing to Jon
17:33 - Sponsor - Zbiotics
19:02 - Fragile
21:55 - Fingerprints
23:15 - Sam got beat
26:00 - Jon’s video
35:00 - Sponsor - LinkedIn
36:40 - Jon’s video continued
46:05 - Apple road map
48:50 - Sponsor - FactorMeals
50:45 - 15 is good
55:00 - Action button UI
56:25 - Camera processing
1:00:30 - USBC Power
1:02:50 - Apple responded
1:06:28 - Next year
1:12:20 - 16 ultra
1:13:45 - We made it
Пікірлер: 182
Sorry if we talked over each other a couple of times -- there was a tiny delay while recording since Sam IS NOT ON MY SIDE OF THE PLANET. - Jon
@AppleTrack
9 ай бұрын
Sorry my airbnb WiFi was NOT IT
@prettyhatemachine101
9 ай бұрын
Jon gets hotter every week ❤️🔥❤️🔥
@byronm4737
9 ай бұрын
@@AppleTrack Yo Sam! Hook one of us Aussies up with your Australian iPhone for a deal before you head home 🇦🇺
@MrKevosmin
9 ай бұрын
@@prettyhatemachine101please not another Jon stan, period
@MrKevosmin
9 ай бұрын
@@prettyhatemachine101he’s always been handsome, ever since
0:00 - Sam’s show n tell intro 2:27 - why you should keep listening 3:08 - Sam’s project 4:45 - Sam’s problem 6:25 - 15 pro has a problem 8:30 - iPhone is grown up 12:40 - Remember the Sam hate 14:25 - the biggest thing to Jon 17:33 - Sponsor - Zbiotics 19:02 - Fragile 21:55 - Fingerprints 23:15 - Sam got beat 26:00 - Jon’s video 35:00 - Sponsor - LinkedIn 36:40 - Jon’s video continued 46:05 - Apple road map 48:50 - Sponsor - FactorMeals 50:45 - 15 is good 55:00 - Action button UI 56:25 - Camera processing 1:00:30 - USBC Power 1:02:50 - Apple responded 1:06:28 - Next year 1:12:20 - 16 ultra 1:13:45 - We made it
As a normal human, I update my phone once every 4 to 5 years still rocking iPhone 12 mini. Watched every show since the beginning and certainly the 15 is tempting but I think I’ll wait till next year.
@Jezee213
9 ай бұрын
I just came from using the 12 Mini. I really enjoyed that phone. So great.
@shaymcgee9148
9 ай бұрын
Rocking with my 12mini until the wheels fall off
Sam’s Aussie drop test special episode and Jon’s iOS17 “feels” video were both really great and different. Much appreciated
Sam makes drop test video that goes viral Sam: WHY WONT APPLE INVITE ME TO EVENTS 😫
Sam’s definitely a man of the people, flying all the way across the world just to get a phone early. Sam you can’t tell people to upgrade from a 14 to 15 just because of a new charging port.
I’m LOVING my Natural Titanium 15 Pro Max guys 🤩 Thanks for the episode! 💙
Laid down to go to sleep. Got this notification. “Yeah I could stay up another hour and a half”
Aussie here, wish I knew you were coming down under. It would have been fantastic to meet you Sam.
So when do iPhone 16 rumors start? I’m waiting for that.
@michaellozito9980
9 ай бұрын
Oh it’s already started
First time in 4 years when I AM NOT upgrading to the new Pro! I love watching you guys doing technical reviews and all that and YES! i get it! 15 Pro it’s better from almost all standpoints than the 14 Pro! And it would be cool to have it and all! But at the end of the day I would spend $1000 just to scroll on Instagram THE SAME EXACT way I would scroll on my current 14 Pro! Really not worth it!
@Isengardtom
9 ай бұрын
I’m not even upgrading from a standard iPhone 13. I think 3 years is the sweet spot
@Truth_Seeker1
9 ай бұрын
15 Pros changes over the 14 Pros:(1)Titanium frame, (2) Slimmer bezels, (3)Action Button,(4) USBC, (5) Periscope Lens in PM (5x zoom),(6) A17 chip (Faster, more power efficient), (7) Wifi 6E, (8) 8GB Ram, (9) New Ultra Wideband chip (more power efficient), (10) New Qualcomm X70 chip (more power efficient, faster average speeds, improved coverage, better signal quality, lower latency), (11) Able to charge AirPods or Apple Watch (via the USBC port), (12) Thread radio only phone to have this (able to control Thread-enabled smart home products), (13) The main camera can output 24 megapixels photos, (14) Sparital video
@mark_edwards485
9 ай бұрын
I have a feeling given the last two big camera updates that the 16 Pro models or “Ultra” if so designated, will be an upgrade similar to the 14 Pro reg to the 15 Pro Reg where most of the distinguishable upgraded features will be tied to software features capable only on whatever new chip is powering the flagship 16-series models. If the 16 Pro/Ultra models have the same camera set up with no upgrade to their performance beyond new video or photo formats or tools and features software brings, I’ll be keeping my 15 Pro Max for another year happily.
I never missed an episode, I love you guys! Love from Brazil!
I’m sorry but GENTLEMEN…….. This Episode NEEDED to be 2 hours….. PLEASE give your fans a 2 HOUR Apple EPISODE. Good, Bad, Hopes, Dreams, Dream Crushers……. XD
What a waste to set the action button to the camera since it’s right on the lock screen and you can even swipe right and it’s there
31:34 I skipped to this and freaked out by your eyes 😂😂😂
Loved both of your videos and I watch your videos because you translate for all viewers. Hey even some of us that are techies still can appreciate the general public consumer - my wife is one and I can relate! Keep up the great work guys!
Got the 15 pro and love it. I would recommend a case. I put a screen protector & Spigen Zero One case on mine. Already dropped it 😅 still looks great
Thank you so very much for your content I really appreciate it ❤😊
One suggestion I would have for the Action Button would be to move it below the volume buttons. It’s just so inconvenient reaching all the way up there & having to press & hold to activate something (camera for me). It would be so much better to have it right there where most people have a finger resting in that spot anyway, & also be able to just press once to activate rather than a long press. Just a thought
@Jezee213
9 ай бұрын
Yea it's in an awkward position, and it replaces the mute function if you choose any other action. There's no reason that they can't put a double press as a secondary gesture so you don't have to choose.
55:29 Lads, I remapped the action button to a number of actions through the shortcuts app, I now a get as quick menu with “Mute switch-Open camera-Unlock door-Lock door” it’s sweet, I will probably add more over time 👌🏻📱
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I really love ❤️ you guys. I enjoy the natural brotherhood you guys have. Love and disagreements and shit talking and friendship it is old school energy that doesn’t get seen a lot these days. Damn this is soul food conversations with two of the best to EVER DO IT. ❤️🤙🚀🍿🥇🍀🍀🍀🍀
Have a great night guys ❤😊
I’m on the annual upgrade plan and get the most advanced/most feature laden iPhone and I try and take advantage of the new features by using them as often as is practical. But it never ceases to amaze me the continual trope of influencers/tech reviewers who will buy the latest iPhone annually, tell their viewers don’t upgrade every year because there aren’t enough features to justify it while they upgrade themselves and then go as far as to say that they don’t intend on using the latest new features like the new telephoto zoom on the 15 Pro Max, or the 48mp RAW/HEIF format features. This year the regular 15 Pro is little different in overall day to day performance and usability and seems like there is no reason to go from a 14 Pro to a 15 Pro, only to the 15 Pro Max as it literally has a substantially better camera-but then they’ll sacrifice on duplicative features and performance just for what? USB C? And even with USB C, you’re not going to be recording the new ProRes or LOG format videos or taking the high res RAW stills because every year you say they’re features you’ll seldom if ever use on a phone where it’s admitted that the new performance from the processor is indistinguishable from the previous year’s phones. Obviously people can do what they want to do with their money and buy what they want and use them how they want it’s just the rationale is bizarre. I’m no pro photographer but I try and use all the new features on the latest flagship iPhone I can as is practically possible.
“Buying a whole new phone for a cord is insane” okay I’m insane I guess 😂
I thought the jump in camera quality from the 13 pro would be good, but this is a STARK improvement with the 15 Pro Max. I thought having the bigger sensor alone would be enough for me to be happy. But the new processing algorithm eliminated the sharpening artifacts that the previous versions had. Not to mention better color and dynamic range. I'm VERY happy I upgraded.
Yo Sam! Hook one of us Aussies up with your Australian iPhone for a deal before you head home 🇦🇺 My 13pro battery is terrible
I’ve never seen so many people go crazy for matte grey 😂
I think MKBHD has said this multiple times, companies make compromises in features to set apart the budget models and the compromise for iPhone is refresh rate and camera differences and an old year old processor that is much faster than any competitor.
Hey! It's great upgrading to USB-C and worth it just for that if you can. And the shape and weight of the Pro max is so much nicer in the hand, than the 14 pro max. So glad, now will I next year? Probably not. Great video. and love the blue...
I was watching the intro and accidentally skipped to like 22 mins and all I hear is “somehow illegally got this phone”. 💀
Why can’t I check the battery cycles on my 14 Pro??
I was always planing to upgrade to the 15 series because 15 is my favorite number and I ultimately gone with the 15 pro max for I want the best cameras, and I absolutely love it, battery life, Camera, Action Button, Dynamic island, and etc it’s all so good! I love it and am so happy with it!
Great work guys, this was a really good episode
Just what I needed before going to sleep
27:37 Rule made by the $300 phones with 120 Hz mate. For $800 it's looks like a mockery to me.
Video play back on the 15 Pro is longer because if you’re viewing 24 or 30hz content, the display can play it at its correct frame rate. Vs. the 15 staying at 60hz no matter what all the time even when viewing 24fps content. It’s the same on your Apple TV, Match Content dynamic range + frame rate on or off. You’ll see less jutter on match content, depending on how good your tv does motion at 24hz.
Watching this on my iPhone 15 Pro Max 👌🏽
Love these two. Very funny.
Another great episode guys 👍🏾
I saw the keynote and realized they shared the same display from pro last year. Went to the Apple site and saw that it was not pro motion. Said to my self, keeping the pro in the pro motion and still bought the 15. The current regular 15 is a steal at the price. Basically last years 14 pro.
It all makes sense now. FPT videos have been amazing lately. It's the gummies. Don't stop the gummies.
I see you point of view regarding the 60Hz, and at this point I don't really mind either ways, but consider this - if you are looking to buy a car, you won't just look at the mileage or just the infotainment, you'd look at the whole package and consider the purchase on multiple fronts, similarly if you're buying a phone, case in point the 700 dollar Pixel 8, it has comparable hardware camera as the iPhone 15 regular, and has a faster refresh rate display, so the competition being there and iPhone not being in its own bubble will always make that one spec stand out, especially because it is the primary way a user interacts with the phone. Lack of a telephoto lens was never a concern because it doesn't directly affect the user experience. Specifically to the point you make about "who decided 800 dollar phones need to have 120hz displays" and dismiss people who are complaining about the refresh rate, I personally think they aren't in the wrong and it is kinda why they think you're biased, because comparison to competition is obviously gonna happen and iPhone doesn't exist in a bubble/its own category.
WELCOME TO OUR NATION SAM! Glad you can now prove we do bloody exist!
Complaining about the battery when you're on a different carrier, etc is not apples to apples. Does the Aussie carrier have same specs as Verizon, or is that phone struggling for reception, etc. in your area? If you have same life with your US phone, then so be it.
I agree I wish they still made 5.8 inch it was PERFECT!! forever reaching on the 6.1 pro model😂
A lot of really good points made on this pod 😂
1:10:47 I remember in my country when 5g came out everyone whent mental because we only had regular 5g and not mmWave then later on it was shown that mmWave was trash unless you stood right underneath a antenna i think it is the same thing with 120 hertz you only notice it if you have the 60hertz next to it and anyway the cut out looks so bad I’m perfectly fine just having regular 5g
I can it wait !!! for next year 16 pro max or ultra love big phones also upgrading my 14 pro max to the 15 pro max maybe around November
Sam is wrong. 90% of the people even today doesn't know what type of cable is in the box with iPhone and all of them don't care at all. Important thing is that is in the box and it is compatible to charge phone. Regular people doesn't use cable for data transfer, they don't transfer anything from phone ever. They don't care what type of connection is below if they received cable in the box. They will use that cable and that is it.
i cared about 120HZ before I got it. Now ill admit that apples pro motion makes the 120HZ less noticeable - at least on Mac. But since i got it and its not always at 120HZ it actually does not make much of a difference. And i was about to literally spend 3-5k to replace every screen i have with 120/144/200 Hz the other thing is what you already mentioned: Batter. Seeing early 15 Pro results with 120Hz and Always on... Holy moly. My expecation was that at some point we would get these new graphene/glass batteries that have up to 3x capacity. They are not here yet, but I still assumed to at some point get to a full moderately heavy use day (4hrs screen on time with video playback, 4 more with screen off, navigation and mobile data 5G). Buuut it seems battery is not a priority. Id trade 120hz, always on, 5G and Raytracing for getting to a full day so easy i wouldnt even think about my battery. All of them Id give up both lenses for more battery. But i really dont care about pictures. Id rather not have a camera bump, than "the best camera"
Upgrading every year diminishes the actually “jump” you feel when getting a new phone. Sam saying it only costs a little bit to get the new phone is not true. I get $659 trade in for my 14 Pro Max 256GB from Apple. New iPhone 15 Pro Max is $1,199. Plus new cases (no Apple Leather case), plus AppleCare+, plus taxes, we’re talking about a good chunk of change.
I have the 12 pro max and I am getting 15 pro max blue. its about time because my battery is about 85 % optimize
Just buy basic iPhone 15 or 15 plus, they have amazing battery Edit: I am a tech guy and I really couldn't care less about 60hz. I can't see the difference in hz anyway until i put 60 and 120 side by side and start scrolling some text or what ever. I just don't care, 15 plus is plenty for me. I am mad about usb 2.0 speeds of ports on basic phones and the same speed of cables on both basic and pro phones. That's what makes me a bit mad, I don't care about screen "speed"
This video was Great! Spot on Real Talk 👏 thanks guys
I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max, I watch you guys and MKBHD. My wife has the 13 with pro motion and I’ve seen it and used it. Honestly even for me it’s not a reason to upgrade. I totally agree with Jon’s point.
Listened on Apple Podcast, but wanted to come here and leave a view and like. You guys freakin rock 😎
Friendly reminder/something Sam may have forgotten when talking about switching to the 15 because it’s the same size with longer battery, the 15 isn’t quite the same size because the pro has thinner bezels and the same screen. I know ya already know that, but just a reminder
Had the 14 pro max , only upgraded for the usb c.
@GurtonBuster07
9 ай бұрын
Mf you must be rich
Loved the video. Agreed with just about everything you both said. But I have to point out: 42:45 “the mass market is not dumb” Also jern: “the poor people models” I know calling the 15 and 15 plus the poor people’s phones is a joke, but it’s in such bad taste especially since the phones are so good. There’s gotta be a way to not insult people for wanting to save a couple hundred dollars. Edit: 51:10 Jon brings it back up again
Please make a video about pwm flicker on iPhone that cause discomfort in people eyes.
EAP always did the drop tests in his garage on the concrete
Idk if is engagement bait or actual iPhone problems at this point 💀
"What are you gonna do with those, buddy?" Another car-crash-detection-test with Luke (throwback😂😂😂) but IN AUSTRALIA. 😱😱😱🤣
The interface for the action is hot garbage. It’s a picture of the side of the iPhone with a toggle screen built over it. Seems a like an afterthought.Jon is 100% correct on the perfect size for the smaller pro is 5.8”
yay. have been looking forward. 10 days is too long
Just like wondering vitamins are weed gummies right, cuz like it definitely could also be acid
Anyone know how to do a spatial video?
27:24 sam speaking FACTS 31:11 vitamins for the win 51:10 life is short. treat yourself and get the new iphone.
insane episode
SHOUT OUT SAM & JON. JON LITERALLY WROTE, RECORDED & EXPORTED HIS iOS17 VIDEO 3 HOURS AGO. THIS PODCAST IS 1.5 or so hours. JON had less than an hour between FPT SHOOT &. Genius Bar Shoot.
The 120hz thingy , i think there is some valid arguments that one can make I think that higher refresh rate is something that you don't necessary notice right away, but if you used a phone that has it for a while it's really hard to return to normal hz, even if you are not a tech person and you don't' even know what 120hz means for example if a normal person bought iphone 14 pro and used it for a whole year then switched to iphone 15 i feel that this person will feel that it's slower but they wouldn't understand or can even point the reason for it being this way So the fact that people don't care is valid, but i would say they don't care because they just haven't used it . not because the feature itself doesn't matter
@EverydayTechSJB
9 ай бұрын
As someone who works in mobile sales and have literally seen someone downgrade from a pro 13 ....that's exactly what happens, they returned the 14 ( broke their 13 pro with no protection) and returned it a few days later because it "felt slow"
@EverydayTechSJB
9 ай бұрын
There's a differences between "don't care" and "doesn't know" most people Don't know why their phone feels faster or more responsive, they just know that it does
iPhone 14 pro “normal battery degradation”. My battery percentage went from 98% to 94% in literally 1 month.
Downloaded for tomorrow’s commute! Thanks for making time Sam and Jon. I know it’s a busy few weeks
I give you a like here, and that's about it, nice podcast Mates.
Unless you transfer huge files from/to your phone all the time who gives a fuck about USB-C? Lighting works fine.
Do either of you use an iPhone as your camera for the podcast?
its so funny to hear all those different opinions. I just wachted a video of someone returning his iPhone 15 pro max because of almost no improvement and here I hear how much better camera is. Theres a video for every opinion i guess
i upgrade every year. i didn’t think i would love this phone as much as i do. i am in LOVE with the look and feel. it feels so different and the weight difference is really noticeable. i love it so much. i got the 15 pm in black. the black edges melts with the phone screen edge. it’s more immersive. everyone just get the phone! you will not regret it
Hey Jon and sam, apparently the best phone for battery life is the iPhone 15 plus.
I have the iPhone 15 Pro and the iPhone 15 Pro Max and the battery is way better on the max.
It seems like whatever future plans Apple has for its mobile products they want as much of their current generation phones to be able to take it on…. So I’m not surprised that the regular 15 has all or at the very minimum most of the 14 pro features.
"buy a new $1200 phone so you can have usb-c" yeahhhhhhhhhh normal people dont do that
Comfortability == Comfort
@appletrack you should make a video of everything you can plug in and do with the USB c port
Welcome to Australia Sam.
I never use cases because I never drop my phone. Just don’t fumble it guys 🤣
Sam in Australia with a horrific Cockney accent. 😂😂😂
Isn't part of the island just black pixels to keep things even?
@GottaGeek
9 ай бұрын
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M so that it's pleasing to the eye with Apple's own aesthetics
It is BS. There are $200 android phones with 120hrz. If Apple wants to keep 120hrz a PRO Feature then I think Apple could and should do 90hrz on their $800 & $900 phones. Come on almost $1K for 2015 display tech refresh rate is shady
brilliant episode this week which means next weeks episode is gonna be off the rails…
Watching this on my “poor people” iPhone (13 mini) 😂 good episode fellas. Only time I need 120hz is when getting those dubs on Fortnite 👑
I have the Iphone 13 pro max and I will be upgrading to the iPhone 16 Ultra in 2024 no matter what
Do you guys think using it without a case is fine? I have Apple care
S23 Ultra is still the best phone of 2023!!!
Am I the only one underwhelmed this year and unable to justify 500 or more out of pocket with trade in when it’s largely just weight and comfy being different?
Dynamic island will become something that lives in the status bar and disappears when it's not needed. Same thing that happened to 3D touch, they created a worse implementation for no reason.
Jon do you watch ochev (KZreadr)? He uses that “straight buttcheeks” line all the time about players he doesn’t like on MLB the show 😂
Well, speaking of durability. Have you seen drop tests by indian youtubers? Results were different. The iPhone 15PM seemed pretty tough and doesn't break as easily!
Sam please calm down also I’m sorry for the people that were not expecting the ear busting sound & nearly giving someone a heart attack or their souls left their bodies.