The Incredible Logistics Of The Tour De France | Inside Neutral Service

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Ever wondered how neutral service teams coordinate during the chaos of the Tour de France? From flat tyres to mechanical failures, they're prepared to handle emergencies at a moment's notice and provide essential support to all riders! How do they stay so alert and efficient throughout the race? Join Dan to find out how neutral service - the unsung heroes of the Tour de France - actually operate during the race!
In collaboration with @RideShimano 🤝 www.shimano.com/en/
00:00 How does neutral service do it?
00:59 What does neutral service provide?
03:43 How many pedal systems does neutral service have to accommodate?
04:48 Does neutral service specifically set bikes up for “star” riders?
05:23 Telemetry system (NTT)
07:39 What have been your favourite moments in providing this support?
10:02 How many bottles do you have?
10:22 Complications with different wheels
12:07 France Neutral Service
12:46 How many bikes & wheels does France Neutral Service provide?
14:56 Neutral service is vital!
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  • @gcn
    @gcn4 күн бұрын

    Would you like to work for Shimano Neutral Service? 👀

  • @bremnet1812

    @bremnet1812

    4 күн бұрын

    I'd love to be a part of that team. How does one apply?

  • @bikecommuter24

    @bikecommuter24

    3 күн бұрын

    after 46 years of being a mechanic I'm retired although part of me would love to give it a go I'm the sure the Adrenaline kicks in at crunch time.

  • @cardboardcrawlersrc8805

    @cardboardcrawlersrc8805

    Күн бұрын

    Dream job.

  • @peterdraper1478

    @peterdraper1478

    7 сағат бұрын

    If you saw the state of my garage you would know better than ask....

  • @secretounum1123
    @secretounum11234 күн бұрын

    I'd love to see a similar video about the camera operator on the back of the motorcycles. ❤

  • @goldenretriever6261

    @goldenretriever6261

    3 күн бұрын

    I'd like to see a video about the motorcycle drivers. They have to be very skilled to follow riders down the mountains with a cameraman on the back.

  • @D34dlyTidsy

    @D34dlyTidsy

    3 күн бұрын

    Great idea

  • @alexpeartree2019

    @alexpeartree2019

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@goldenretriever6261and getting bollocked by Cab for being in the way! 😂

  • @JGCycling

    @JGCycling

    Күн бұрын

    Same

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    5 сағат бұрын

    That could be cool! We would love to do more behind the scenes videos 🙌

  • @oatmonster
    @oatmonster4 күн бұрын

    Outfitting the neutral bikes with dropper posts for quick saddle height adjustment is super clever!

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Would you ride one of these? 👀

  • @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
    @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat65893 күн бұрын

    Having worked as a neutral service mechanic for about 20 years, on and off, you're only ever 2nd choice: riders always look for their team car first, and you quite often get blamed for not having the exactly correct thing they need, at exactly the moment they need it. But sometimes you receive the gratitude that makes the job worth doing. I've been sworn at and had things thrown at me by wound-up prima donnas of both sexes (they get slow wheel changes ever after those sorts of dummy spits) , but also, bottles of champagne, cakes, gift bags & team kit given to me by grateful riders who I've helped to a better finish than they expected. It's a funny little niche of the cycling world.

  • @zeiss72

    @zeiss72

    3 күн бұрын

    Awesome! Would love to hear some of your stories.

  • @jonasvieth

    @jonasvieth

    Күн бұрын

    Just out of interest what tire pressures do you prepare? Especially for races like Roubaix.

  • @vipergtsrgt1

    @vipergtsrgt1

    19 сағат бұрын

    This was the first thing I thought about before even seeing your reply. The way I've seen neutral service treated sometimes is pretty abysmal. Like you said, a lot of riders don't even want it. We do have a stage race here where two of the stages are on tight circuits where team cars are not allowed. For those stages, neutral service is critical.

  • @2001MBKBooster
    @2001MBKBooster4 күн бұрын

    I really enjoy these types of videos. The insights into the behind-the-scenes logistics are appreciated.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    The logistics are super impressive! 🤯

  • @dazza9129
    @dazza91294 күн бұрын

    Imagine winning a stage using a neutral bike. Must be an awesome achievement.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    4 күн бұрын

    Would be so cool 🙌

  • @Baerinho

    @Baerinho

    3 күн бұрын

    Michael Rogers won the Tour down under i think in 2002ish on a spectators bike. There is video on youtube with the original commentary, its hilarious, spectator is jsut there, randomly, with i think even the same bike model

  • @morosis82

    @morosis82

    3 күн бұрын

    ​@@Baerinhoyeah it was almost exactly the same bike I think, even the right size frame but slightly different saddle height I believe. Got a pic with the guy and his bike after the race.

  • @kaspershaupt

    @kaspershaupt

    3 күн бұрын

    @@Baerinho importantly the same petels one of the wildest coincidences in sports

  • @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589

    @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589

    3 күн бұрын

    The dropper post is much better used here than what it was invented for.

  • @francesstager997
    @francesstager9973 күн бұрын

    Konstanza is a SHINING STAR!!! I am truly impressed! Cheers to the TEAM!!

  • @cb6866
    @cb68663 күн бұрын

    Thanks Dan and crew...very cool to see that stuff !

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Thanks to Neutral Service for letting us film with them 🙌

  • @jamieswann4176
    @jamieswann4176Күн бұрын

    My favourite sort of GCN video, love to see the background content!

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    We love brining our audience along with us to the wider cycling world 🙌

  • @NRoyMoll
    @NRoyMoll3 күн бұрын

    This was really interesting. The blue cars are a familiar site but I’ve never really thought about the logistics of what they actually do.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Now you know 🙌

  • @torandi
    @torandi3 күн бұрын

    How often does someone actually take a bike or wheel from neutral service, seems like something we see very rarely.

  • @andrewmcalister3462

    @andrewmcalister3462

    3 күн бұрын

    Probably you don't see it, because the cameras and the team cars are amongst the leaders. A rider who has been dropped and is struggling to make the time cut (and the team cars a long way in front) may well rely on neutral service in the event of a puncture, but there are no cameras there to witness it.

  • @filiphajek4103

    @filiphajek4103

    Күн бұрын

    Yep just like today .. stage 9. E.g. We did not see Vingegaards bike change, but we saw neutral car with Jan Tratnik with Vingegaard´s bike. Cameras are not everywhere and mechanical/punctures are happening all the time in normal stages not just this gravel one .. we just do not see them in TV so often unless the puncture happens to GC rider or some sprinter.

  • @blueshun
    @blueshun4 күн бұрын

    It's more historic if Mark Cavendish get his 36th with a neutral service bike.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Oh that would be cool!

  • @zonedereve
    @zonedereve11 сағат бұрын

    Love the analogy of every day preparing like a team but without their own riders. ❤😊🎉 Go neutral service! It's every rider's team!

  • @alexbizkit79
    @alexbizkit792 күн бұрын

    I'd love to own one of those blue Shimano bikes!

  • @Velo757
    @Velo7572 күн бұрын

    She's great!!! Much RESPECT to those guys and ladies! Amazing job they have to pull off!!! Thanks for your neutral service!

  • @bonganidarrylkhupe8139
    @bonganidarrylkhupe81394 күн бұрын

    Thank you. Great information

  • @johnstrac
    @johnstrac3 күн бұрын

    Fascinating ! Love this behind the scenes content, keep it up.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Anything else you would like to see on the channel?

  • @vladimirmilutinovic8057
    @vladimirmilutinovic80573 күн бұрын

    Very nice video ! Well done !!!

  • @paulcooper5904
    @paulcooper59043 күн бұрын

    That's a really interesting insight!!

  • @waynebond5771
    @waynebond577123 сағат бұрын

    Loved the insight into the neutral service team. Great video

  • @supercoder7
    @supercoder73 күн бұрын

    I love you all so much for doing this video! Have been curious about this forever. Thank you. Love that you can do these videos now since you are independent.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    We'll keep the videos coming 🔥

  • @danieljames1
    @danieljames13 күн бұрын

    So interesting to gain some insight as to what keeps the machine running. That was 100% new and cool info for me. Thank you GCN for making this and all of your fantastic content.

  • @Parr4
    @Parr44 күн бұрын

    This is a great video. Very interesting to learn more about the neutral services!

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    It's a cool side of cycling lots of people don't think about 🙌

  • @morosis82
    @morosis823 күн бұрын

    Great video, i always suspected some of the tricks theyd need but cool to see it from the source. That trick with dropper posts is brilliant, such a lateral thinking move! Would be cool to see some stats on how often they are used and what types of equipment gets used the most.

  • @stevemc6671
    @stevemc667111 сағат бұрын

    Great informative video, Thank You! 🙂👍

  • @playerforty4621
    @playerforty46213 күн бұрын

    And who are the guys in the white bikes giving away water bottles, unsung heros on the first 2 stages 👏

  • @mattaddley
    @mattaddley3 күн бұрын

    Superb behind the scenes. Kudos GCN crew & Shimano.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! 🙌

  • @jrguk
    @jrguk3 күн бұрын

    Good bit of competitor analysis they get to do, whilst preparing to support all the teams!

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe87723 күн бұрын

    great stuff, thank you!

  • @nelsonm.5044
    @nelsonm.50443 күн бұрын

    Very interesting video on some thing se rarely hear about

  • @martincove6054
    @martincove605410 сағат бұрын

    Nice one - really learnt something from this🙂

  • @johnbazaar6188
    @johnbazaar6188Күн бұрын

    I don’t know how possible this is, but would love to get a tour of the medical tour (especially for a grand tour/tdf). Race doctors are so important and vital for all riders, curious to see what they have to help out.

  • @bikecommuter24
    @bikecommuter243 күн бұрын

    Nice Very interesting and Dan just getting on with the interviews.

  • @mariahamilton5305

    @mariahamilton5305

    3 күн бұрын

    Some very interesting stuff coming out! But it's weird seeing Dan on his own. I can't put my finger on why I feel he needs a buddy, but I do!

  • @seascape
    @seascape3 күн бұрын

    Not sure why this was an ad, as it was incredibly insightful! Looking forward to tours of the team buses, and perhaps similar episodes on the first aid cars and the broom truck/van/wagon.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    That's the sign of a good ad 😉

  • @chriscole4149
    @chriscole41492 күн бұрын

    Very cool pulling back the curtain on neutral service! thx

  • @SarahanneField
    @SarahanneField3 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Great video to watch while waiting for live coverage to begin! :P

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Did you find yourself looking for the neutral service team?

  • @jonasvieth
    @jonasviethКүн бұрын

    What tire pressures do they prepare? Especially for races like Roubaix.

  • @richcrompton6891
    @richcrompton68913 күн бұрын

    Fascinating. What a logistical puzzle. They should receive a prize after every race!

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    Hahaha the logistics could be the toughest part of the tour 🙌

  • @robjohnston1114
    @robjohnston11142 күн бұрын

    Great insight video about more of the Tour's unsung heroes.

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    The logistical heroes 🙌

  • @gc641
    @gc6413 күн бұрын

    Awesome job

  • @paulsbailey
    @paulsbailey3 күн бұрын

    Great video.

  • @aaronedgeart
    @aaronedgeart3 күн бұрын

    Huzzah for these heroes and heroines!

  • @devilsboxcar3925
    @devilsboxcar39252 күн бұрын

    Brilliant video…..never knew what went into it.

  • @MarkHagan83
    @MarkHagan833 күн бұрын

    by far the coolest job in sports

  • @josecarlosli-ho8302
    @josecarlosli-ho83023 күн бұрын

    Great video!! You should do one about the camera crew on motorcycles.

  • @kristenbrook897
    @kristenbrook8973 күн бұрын

    Great story GCN! Really interesting so thanks so much for filming and producing. Keep this sort of content coming! Thank you so much

  • @kaspershaupt
    @kaspershaupt3 күн бұрын

    I remember last year someone in the break broke a chain his team car was behind another group so the Shimano car tried to help him. The mechanic got one bike after another none of them fit for either size or pedal reasons. So he had to wait a long time for his team car to get to him. I just don't remember seeing a neutral actually helping someone out, maybe I don't watch enough cycling tho

  • @mathiasiversen6158
    @mathiasiversen61584 сағат бұрын

    What about an episode following one of the tdf-team chefs for a day? For example Uno-X has a food truck following them the whole race, with a danish chef doing everything by himself. He posted a photo of him filling two full carts, and that was just two days feeding the riders😮

  • @johndoiron9615
    @johndoiron9615Күн бұрын

    I would love one of those blue bikes!

  • @AaronI-wz4ok

    @AaronI-wz4ok

    Күн бұрын

    Canyon Ultimate

  • @BoyArden
    @BoyArden2 күн бұрын

    Interesting video. There are so many ‘unseen’ parts of cycling racing that would be interesting to see. What about things like who puts up the barriers and when, what does the carnival before the race do, filling in all the potholes, how is the decision on the stage and route made?

  • @benjammind
    @benjammind6 сағат бұрын

    I can honestly say I have never seen a rider use the Shimano neutral service, really interesting video though!

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    6 сағат бұрын

    You'll be looking out for it now?

  • @RayzLeeKL
    @RayzLeeKL3 күн бұрын

    How does the team move from stage to stage? The team logistics movements. Hope to see a video similar on how F1 teams move about.

  • @kpbmx
    @kpbmx3 күн бұрын

    Never noticed but I guess following a swap from a NS bike back to a team one, the team keeps the NS bike on the car? Then does an exchange for the broken one when next possible? Logistical nightmare in a race situation. Stunning work.

  • @giancarloraphaeldeguzman8613
    @giancarloraphaeldeguzman8613Күн бұрын

    Aside from the motocams, can we please have a live production behind the scenes? Thank you!

  • @Chris._P._Bacon
    @Chris._P._BaconКүн бұрын

    I switched to Shimano pedals from Look in May......I gotta say, I'm surprised the pedals are fantastic and so much easier to slip into, my guess is the cleat design because I could never get it right with the Look pedals. So, yeah, I'm please with the change.

  • @jamesmckenzie3532
    @jamesmckenzie35323 күн бұрын

    Mavic neutral service assisted at several of our local bicycle races. Due to legal concerns, Shimano service can't be used.

  • @Shellewell
    @Shellewell3 күн бұрын

    All of this is exactly why I continue to remember the time Nathan van Hooydonck was rude to the Neutral Service people and they walked away without giving a wheel. His name was pretty much permanently scarred with that for me because they have a hard job and the stress of a race is no excuse for that attitude to people who are trying to juggle so many different needs and so many different sets of componentry.

  • @pcat007
    @pcat0073 күн бұрын

    I had no idea

  • @andrewingleton9374
    @andrewingleton93743 күн бұрын

    I miss Mavic 🥺

  • @a1white

    @a1white

    3 күн бұрын

    Yes, it was Mavic before wasn’t it?

  • @andrewmcalister3462

    @andrewmcalister3462

    3 күн бұрын

    Yeah, somehow yellow being Mavic's brand colour just worked at the TdF.

  • @George-dk7wo
    @George-dk7wo3 күн бұрын

    Awesome video, every time during a race I can't wait to see your video about the neutral service, such a cool job

  • @gcn

    @gcn

    Күн бұрын

    You'll keep an eye out for neutral service now 😉

  • @sgtbinko2739
    @sgtbinko2739Күн бұрын

    64 wheels suprises me.thought it would of been more

  • @AaronI-wz4ok

    @AaronI-wz4ok

    Күн бұрын

    They get them back at the end of the stage

  • @elscruffomcscruffy8371
    @elscruffomcscruffy83713 күн бұрын

    Dan really wanted a blue Shimano Bottle...poor guy

  • @AChickenLord
    @AChickenLord4 күн бұрын

  • @OriginalTrev
    @OriginalTrevСағат бұрын

    The Shimano neutral service bike frames, saddles, handlebars, stems and wheels are sourced from separate suppliers as white label products. It appears that the outsourced components are painted Shimano blue with a Shimano decal on everything they didn't manufacture. Is the neutral service a contracted component of select UCI races that would be open to bids from companies that compete directly with Shimano - like L-TWOO?

  • @mitch_smith
    @mitch_smith3 күн бұрын

    Did we hear what brand the neutral bikes are? curious who shimano is suing for frames. Great video btw.

  • @amoradyl

    @amoradyl

    3 күн бұрын

    It's a french bike brand called Origine and the model is named Axome. Pretty cool ones.

  • @AaronI-wz4ok

    @AaronI-wz4ok

    Күн бұрын

    Canyon Ultimate

  • @a1white
    @a1white3 күн бұрын

    Alpecin Deceuninick still on QR? I thought they’d all be on through-axles now

  • @francois9163
    @francois91633 күн бұрын

    The bike is an Origine Axxome ; a great bike.

  • @canadiancat420

    @canadiancat420

    2 күн бұрын

    The bikes are now Canyon.

  • @francois9163

    @francois9163

    2 күн бұрын

    @@canadiancat420 The bikes we can see on the video, for exemple at 4'08" or 3'44" or 1'55", are 100% Origine Axxome. If they changed (but I can't verify this anywhere), they did so after the video was shot.

  • @user-me5gf5ok7v
    @user-me5gf5ok7v14 сағат бұрын

    I am really curious what frame set they use

  • @DJM9678
    @DJM96783 күн бұрын

    Interesting. I don't think it was mentioned but what type of frames they are using (which brand)... does anybody know?

  • @tomnewham1269
    @tomnewham12693 күн бұрын

    It would make things a lot easier for the neutral team if all the teams at least used the same through axle and rear disc size.

  • @stuartfreedman6854
    @stuartfreedman68542 күн бұрын

    I wonder, do any (Shimano assisted) riders actually change BACK when their team car gets close enough? Maybe just if things come to a stop for some reason...

  • @zerocharlie
    @zerocharlie4 күн бұрын

    Does Shimano make those frames or are they from another manufacturer but with Shimano logos?

  • @supnongl

    @supnongl

    3 күн бұрын

    I saw elsewhere that they are previous season canyons .. although officially, Shimano will never say

  • @a1white

    @a1white

    3 күн бұрын

    @@supnonglthanks. I was wondering that too. I guess Dan wasn’t allowed to ask that 😅

  • @francois9163

    @francois9163

    3 күн бұрын

    The bike is an Origine Axxome. Origine is a french manufacturer ; they sell very good bikes, only online.

  • @wildnatureee
    @wildnatureee3 күн бұрын

    Why is the light on the Shimano motorcycle always broken? Seems like just the right hand side light is working… I’m wondering for ages now! 😅

  • @eduardoschneider2010
    @eduardoschneider20102 күн бұрын

    Which bike brand do they use?

  • @MultiLuc28
    @MultiLuc282 күн бұрын

    What brand are the frames they use for these neutral bikes?

  • @gilescudmore7325
    @gilescudmore732523 сағат бұрын

    Wonder how much Shimanoi pay to be the neutral service asthey get a lot of coverage for basically handing out bottles - very rare to see them doing wheel change or handing out a bike as I guess they cover the back of the race a lot more than the front.

  • @trbeyond
    @trbeyond3 күн бұрын

    How is the neutral services funded? Does each team pay a certain amount?

  • @rodrodriguez5847
    @rodrodriguez58473 күн бұрын

    What happens to the bikes after the season? Do they sell that somewhere?

  • @elscruffomcscruffy8371

    @elscruffomcscruffy8371

    3 күн бұрын

    Hey, they're are volunteers too. Not exactly on a duty

  • @vinceguevarra6380
    @vinceguevarra63803 күн бұрын

    Do they bring wheel set with sram cassette and rotors?

  • @erich8258
    @erich825813 сағат бұрын

    Never mind the 5 mm thru-axle -- who's still using quick release!?

  • @OldManAzeban
    @OldManAzeban3 күн бұрын

    Is Shimano the only company that provides this service? Is it under contract? Is it more of a philanthropic ambassadorship premise?

  • @gcullen5331

    @gcullen5331

    3 күн бұрын

    Shimano pays to do so, its a sponsorship.

  • @perjensen1962
    @perjensen19624 күн бұрын

    What about power meters?

  • @Slaitoor

    @Slaitoor

    3 күн бұрын

    Wouldn’t make to much sense to put power meters on these

  • @whitehorsebricks2670

    @whitehorsebricks2670

    2 күн бұрын

    I think pairing your Garmin to a different power meter would be low down on your list when chasing back on after a bike swap.

  • @noptimized
    @noptimized3 күн бұрын

    They need a Shimano El Camino (El Shamino?) so the mechanic can start preparing a bike before they arrive to the rider!

  • @integralhighspeedusb
    @integralhighspeedusb3 күн бұрын

    GCN. TDF, Shimano and all by a busy Supercharger. All my KZread worlds collide..

  • @chadbarbaro
    @chadbarbaro3 күн бұрын

    thanks shimano, i still miss mavic yellow.

  • @whatwelearned
    @whatwelearned3 күн бұрын

    One of the best parts of any tour is watching the neutral service give someone help only for the entitled weasel receiving it to flap around and scream

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith46523 күн бұрын

    The question I would have asked: what frameset and cockpit are your bikes using?

  • @RustyCardboard
    @RustyCardboard4 күн бұрын

    are they paid by shimano or by the organizer of the tournament? i mean costs incurred*

  • @refard

    @refard

    4 күн бұрын

    most probably just there for advertising

  • @refard

    @refard

    4 күн бұрын

    and probably most costs covered by shimano

  • @MediaProConcept

    @MediaProConcept

    3 күн бұрын

    It is paid by us!! (Shimano users/customers)

  • @RustyCardboard

    @RustyCardboard

    3 күн бұрын

    @@MediaProConcept not me i use sram jk xD

  • @matthewcontreras7611
    @matthewcontreras76113 күн бұрын

    Interview must have been behind a Tesla super charger, hence the random Teslas passing in background.

  • @AmvC
    @AmvC3 күн бұрын

    Noooo don't bring mountainbike tech to the roadies 😂 it's ours and we are proud of it 😂 drop that post!

  • @zikaperic2133
    @zikaperic21333 күн бұрын

    did anyone ever used their service in the race? i dont record

  • @danielb1279
    @danielb1279Күн бұрын

    Has anyone ever won a stage on a neutral service bike?

  • @oldtwinsna8347
    @oldtwinsna83473 күн бұрын

    What happens if one of the cars decides to go off course to a restaurant and just kick back for most of the race?

  • @thomasdavidbassett483
    @thomasdavidbassett4833 күн бұрын

    Either Mark Bell or Les Fleetwood punctured in Birkenhead Park and took a kids bike to win. The kid even brought the bike down to the finish. Not all scousers are thief's

  • @sthlmcol
    @sthlmcol19 сағат бұрын

    Being an amateur. But why don’t the service cars use larger cars? Like vans? To fit more bikes/wheels? Sitting in regular cars with wheels in the backseat😂😂looks a bit weird

  • @mickyz
    @mickyz2 сағат бұрын

    Too many cars and motobikes in the peloton , something should really be done about it

  • @brayan8346
    @brayan83463 күн бұрын

    It seems like a lot of work for what is essentially a rolling billboard. I’ve never seen neutral service be much help. The water bottle and energy items they carry would likely be of much more help if that was their sole focus throughout the race.

  • @robflel

    @robflel

    3 күн бұрын

    Ultimately everything in professional cycling are moving billboards.

  • @noptimized

    @noptimized

    3 күн бұрын

    *professional sports 😂

  • @andrewmcalister3462

    @andrewmcalister3462

    3 күн бұрын

    The cameras and team cars tend to follow the race leaders. The dropped rider struggling to make the time cut may depend on neutral service in the event of a puncture, but there are no cameras there to witness it.

  • @richiejames928
    @richiejames9282 күн бұрын

    Seems like a mad thing this is still a thing.. every team has cars behind them. these neutral services cars and bikes are just extra traffic no? if anything they are getting in the way of the actual team car……it’s all just marketing. and that’s ok.

  • @Chris._P._Bacon
    @Chris._P._BaconКүн бұрын

    Just keep away from the racers Shimano's car.......don't try to run one over or send him to a barbwire fence.

  • @WaechterDerNacht
    @WaechterDerNacht3 күн бұрын

    Listening to her, I would suggest Shimano makes a considerable effort to reduce all those standards...

  • @andrewmcalister3462

    @andrewmcalister3462

    3 күн бұрын

    Yeah, they are probably stuck with supporting different groupsets. But they could certainly take a stand by saying "neutral wheels will have 160mm rotors fitted", and it's up to teams to decide if they want to risk no neutral support.

  • @WaechterDerNacht

    @WaechterDerNacht

    2 күн бұрын

    @@andrewmcalister3462 disc brakes would not be the challenge. But there what feels like 20 axle systems, 50 BBs and 15 steerer tubes. Sure, each will have it's strengths and downfalls, but it's main impact is complicting things for everyone - including manufacturers.

  • @whitehorsebricks2670

    @whitehorsebricks2670

    2 күн бұрын

    @@andrewmcalister3462 At least they don't have to worry about bringing Campag wheels to the tour any more.

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