Hi, re: the ableism comment, if you haven’t seen the movie, this whole moment is portrayed in a much crazier way than it sounds and that’s why I got that vibe lol. It’s just a point I threw out there but if you personally don’t think “wanting your kid to be born healthy” is ableist that’s totally valid, I’m just saying like…if you watch the movie it’s portrayed in a REALLY bizarre way lmao. But like other perspectives on the actual philosophical debate/issue are totally fine obviously.

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

Yeah like not wanting the best for your child is not bad at all within itself it's when the parent (and it happens more often then not) does it more out of their own selfish wants and desires for the child and refusal to properly raise and accommodate their child then what is their actual best interest. I also get that throughout the world (As the US, obviously, isn't the only country with a poor healthcare system) that access to care can be extreme difficult so I do understand the mindset of not having to leap through tons of barriers to get the proper care disabled folk deserve and wanting to survive within these systems and that one parent can't do everything but parents of disabled kids should stand for their kids and fight for their child to access care and have the best life they can have

@missmollyc

3 ай бұрын

thank you for clarifying kayla, it’s my comment that really sparked this discussion and i think there’s a lot of nuance here so i’m definitely going to watch the movie and see how bad it really is lol

@pettyofficerdan1807

3 ай бұрын

Hmm.. so she has some genetic condition that's going to make her blind and paralyzed so her mom goes to the Amazon to find a magic spider, but Cassie ends up blind and paralyzed at the end of the movie anyway? Viewed through that lens, this terrible crappy movie is actually saying something about Irony and Karma, not about affliction and ableism.

@lunasuji

3 ай бұрын

I think it's that, and the fact that the character of Cassandra is originally disabled yet is made nondisabled for most of the movie then ends up disabled in the end? And then played by a nondisabled actress? It's like a mix of things

@lauras5359

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@lunasujiagreed. Also the way that she became blind was really weird

as a disabled person, i actually don’t think it’s inherently ableist to not want your child to be disabled. if i was pregnant and learned that my kid could have an extremely difficult life, i would absolutely try whatever treatments were available to prevent that. disability is hard and life is much easier without it, and that belief can coexist with disability acceptance and positivity. that being said, traveling across the globe to try to get bit by a spider while 9 months pregnant is a bonkers concept lol

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

While not wanting your child to have a hard life is not at all a bad thing those concerns can easily fall into "I don't want my child to be disabled because I don't want to put any effort into being a parent to a disabled child" and not do the work for their child to accommodate them and making sure other disabled kids can also have accommodations (I know one parent can't do everything but still)

@mjf40087

3 ай бұрын

It's not just bonkers, it's ableist lol. EDIT: if you are willing to risk your own life and your child's just on the off-chance you can prevent their disability with a non-medically advised procedure - yes, you are ableist.

@fossilfightersfanforever7243

3 ай бұрын

@@mjf40087 but are you disabled in that way tho? i am and im not exactly sure how i feel about it, but i dont think i feel THAT strongly that its ableist. i do have a rare genetic disorder that has taken basically everything from me and if my mom had had the chance to go look for a spider to save me from this daily purgatory and hell before i was born, i think id want her to. and if i could walk normally, I'd go look for the spider myself right now LOL.

@treenincove1726

3 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!!! These virtue signaling wierdos are just overly sensitive, complaining losers. I have a disability too. I would do the same thing. These phoneys argue on other peoples behalf when they have no knowledge of what it's like to be a person in that group. They just want it to seem to everyone else like they care...when they don't. So tired of these two-faced frauds

@Eosinophyllis

3 ай бұрын

as a disabled person I have mixed feelings because while reducing suffering is great it feels like half the time that it’s not about removing disabled peoples suffering, it’s about removing disabled people, and there’s a big difference between those two things. media and our views/biases reinforce one another greatly so the writing says more about a writer a lot of the time than it does a piece of fiction

They were 100% tricked into believing this was part of the MCU. I'm pretty sure they tricked Matt Smith as well.

@toto.dreamer

3 ай бұрын

rip matt smith lizard boy you deserved better

@camipco

3 ай бұрын

I mean, that's assholery, but also this really shouldn't be hard to find out, and their agents were negligent if they didn't explain the difference.

@toomuchtv6741

3 ай бұрын

If they can't tell the difference after almost 15years, then I don't feel bad two elementary school students got fooled

@IanDoesMagic

3 ай бұрын

Haha that's on them. They bought the watch from the Rolexxx street vendor.

@abigailchiesa1337

3 ай бұрын

@@camipco I wouldn't be surprised if this was on their agents, Dakota Johnson allegedly left her talent agency after she saw the trailer

I genuinely feel bad for Sydney and Dakota, Sydney especially. She’s talked about how, after she was cast, she went and read every single comic her character, Julia Carpenter, has appeared in and it seems like she really wanted to do the character justice in her performance. I have no idea if the ladies were ever shown a script before they signed on or if they signed on because they were mislead to believe they were going to be part of the MCU and this was like right before the MCU really imploded. While there’s no denying that even when they were cast, it was known that the MCU wasn’t in the same place it was in 2018/2019 with Infinity War and Endgame, it still had a level of.. prestige isn’t the right word, but you know what I mean

@firstlast9846

3 ай бұрын

I feel like Sydney’s actually a great actor as is the rest of the Euphoria cast…but most people only pay attention cos she’s attractive.

@erikdaniels0n

3 ай бұрын

@@firstlast9846I completely agree. I think she’s really good in Euphoria but I also think she has some real comedic chops as well. Watching things like her episode of Hot Ones, she seems like a naturally funny person. I thought she nailed the comedic moments of Anyone But You really well and is a big part of the reason why I loved that movie as much as I did. It definitely made me a fan, but not one of *those* fans.

@kptmaci4979

3 ай бұрын

Im glad people start to realise it. Although Ive been saying the same since Sony started marketing first Venom without Spiderman and awkward interviews started with Kevin Feige having to deny they are corelated. And its clear Venom didnt make any effort to make good script, or even connect the world to mcu, or open it to such possibilites, yet they wanted to fool audiences into thinking Venom was part of MCU. And many people at the time - thought it actually was! Then each marketing around next movies - Venom 2, Morbius, Madame Web literally floats around connections to spiderman or mcu, which they cant even legally mention in the movie (apart from the time they literally blackmailed disney by threatening to take spiderman rights back if they dont let them push in their shitty venom for 5 seconds into mcu and get vulture to morbius which makes no sense at all, but hey! Sony can now legally lie that they are 'connected' to mcu, even though Feige and Disney clearly want nothing to do with them xD) I love how they even pushed Venom into post credit scene doing nothing only to be immedieately thrown out leaving symbiote behind xD Disney and Feige literally got rid of sonyverse so quickly and I loved it so much. It should tell anyone how they feel on being forced by sony to deal with their bs

@grahamstrouse1165

3 ай бұрын

Damn, they did her dirty.

@CB-gv4yb

3 ай бұрын

I also see this movie of spider man in it then Sony threw it out

She forgives her mom for dying, I guess

@christianwise637

3 ай бұрын

Well that's a sentence I didn't expect to hear spoken today

@cgi_angel6001

3 ай бұрын

Exactly! Like how stupid is that? You hate your mom because she died...? Giving birth to *you*? Umm.....WTF?

@ThaisNeri-xl4cx

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

"Peruvian Amazonian Spider People" is my safe word

@grahamstrouse1165

3 ай бұрын

Crazy! That’s also my stripper name! And it’s the password I use for all my accounts. Shit, I probably shouldn’t have mentioned that last bit…

The writers wrote Mobius and gods of Egypt…of course this was gonna bomb.

@biruk316

3 ай бұрын

why do they keep rewarding bad writers in Hollywood and expect good things?

@Kirasfox

3 ай бұрын

There's a few bad wirtiers that ended up making really good stuff

@Bizarro69

3 ай бұрын

How do these people keep getting writing gigs?

@cheese.strings.for.breakfast

3 ай бұрын

😂😂 same

@MsTriangle

3 ай бұрын

They are cheap, that's why

"He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died.”

@kptmaci4979

3 ай бұрын

its sad when you see major lack of budget not only in costume and cgi department, but also writing. If you cant hide some of the worst lines ever, even in 2 minute video, you really have bad movie on your hands...

@alien_liwil

3 ай бұрын

I don't get the joke

@fossilfightersfanforever7243

3 ай бұрын

@@alien_liwil i think its just that it's suuuch a lazy and expository line it's become a bit of a meme

@alien_liwil

3 ай бұрын

@@fossilfightersfanforever7243 it does seem long winded🤔

@SpectreSaunders

3 ай бұрын

@@alien_liwil The joke is that in the Madame Web trailer, when she said that bad line, it was obviously just a bunch of words from other lines in the film that they used to badly jigsaw it together. Thus it sounded really off & unnatural... The best way I can describe it visually with text is "He _was_ *in* THE amaZON -WITH- mY *m0m* "

I don’t know much about Madam Web but hearing that the character in the comics was originally blind and elderly I think it’s a missed opportunity that they didn’t do a movie more faithful to that. Sony could have made really big strides in representation by casting an actual blind older actress to play Madam Web. Which would sounds like it could have been more unique for a superhero movie.

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that itself I would say is definitely ableist like damn older blind women can't kick some ass?

@Kirasfox

3 ай бұрын

I guess it's just hard to hit the Daredevil type actor jackpot for Sony. I'm sure there was an older actress that could've done her character justice.

@AnilSingh-qb7iu

3 ай бұрын

​@@Kirasfox Charlie Cox is not actually blind so no representation there at all. In fact he should be cancelled for taking the job away from an actual blind actor. Shame.

@phoeni3902

3 ай бұрын

That sounds nice but we have to remember that Disney wants to cast actors in their major roles that will be willing to remain in the franchise for many years, for a major character who'd be leading films they want an actor who will stick around for potentially a decade like Iron Man and Captain America and Thor extrc Casting an elderly actor would cause complications with that because as time goes on they'd age to the point where they just can't be working hard like that anymore, or worse even pass away from old age It's a bit grim I know, but it's just how Disney works unfortunately

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

@@phoeni3902 Even if they still wanted a younger actress I doubt there isn't a blind quadriplegic actress who wouldn't love the opportunity.

the more you spoke, but more i was like ... this can't be real-also as a new yorker I'm low key interested in the shots XD

@kaylasays

3 ай бұрын

omg hey there! I love your vids

@asuka_the_void_witch

3 ай бұрын

worlds collidng woooo

The thing is Dakota and Sydney can act we all know that. They just need a better eye for scripts and a better team since no one wants to say it. I mean the movie looked bad from the start because it’s a Sony movie. Even I thought they were gonna be in a marvel movie when it was first announced. I mean superhero movies aren’t well received anymore due to the fatigue of them there’s just to many.

@rubydown3329

3 ай бұрын

I hope they get their K. Stewart arc where they go from hated mainstream actress to beloved indie actress

@perryjones7771

3 ай бұрын

@@rubydown3329 I could see it happening. Just imagine Sydney in a “Monster” type movie that would be EPIC. The Oscar would be hers.

@grahamstrouse1165

3 ай бұрын

Dakota’s got a lot of talent but she does end up in a lot of stinkers. That woman needs herself a new agent…

@BryanCostner

3 ай бұрын

​@@rubydown3329Dakota has proven herself to be in decent indie stuff such as The Lost Daughter, Our Friend and Cha Cha Real Smooth. Hopefully she has a good movie like those

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

@@perryjones7771 Sydney is in a upcoming religious horror movie where she plays a nun

Dakota does love to parade herself as some sort of an art connoisseur who's reducing herself artistically by associating her name with this clusterfuck of a movie when she hasn't made a single critically acclaimed movie to date. She got her fame by starring in the 50 shades of gray trilogy and is continuing that same sweet franchise fueled ride that she only took a break from to star in an adaptation of persuasion that was mediocre if you're being generous. If it was Sydney going around making tongue in cheek statements about how soul sucking it is to do a superhero movie it would be understandable because she is a talented actress who has a good track record of critical as well as financial success but these statements feel rich coming from Dakota whose entire career has been a flurry of mediocre cash grabs up until this point.

@Strega_del_Corvo

3 ай бұрын

I understand this take but I will say, Suspiria is such a great remake film.

@miaferrari958

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Sometimes I genuinely wonder if people get paid to even suggest she's a good actress. I enjoyed her performance in The social network and How to be single, but then came to realize, she just plays herself, she doesn't even try to give her characters anything interesting, like a manner of speech, or gestures, voice tone. She's always just Dakota, saying lines.

@Neomie92

3 ай бұрын

Damn. This comment was SHADY 😂

@perenniallachrymosity276

3 ай бұрын

​@@Strega_del_CorvoShe was also in A Bigger Splash (also directed by Luca) and The Lost Daughter. Not to be rude, but did anyone else here bother looking at her filmography? ( . _.)

@FrenchDinosaur

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Dakota has the acting skills of an improv class project presenter, yet people act like she has more emotions than the 5 default keyboard emojis on my phone.

madame web & all of the actresses deserve better

@eduardolucas7952

3 ай бұрын

they deserve a better script and film

I can’t speak from the perspective of a disabled person, but as someone with bipolar disorder I don’t think it’s ableist to want your child to be born without a disability or disorder. If I was pregnant I would hope my child didn’t inherit bipolar from me because I know how much suffering it has caused me in my own life. When my mom was pregnant with me she prayed for a healthy baby, but that never stopped her from loving and supporting me on my mental health journey. I think some parents react to their disabled child in ways that are ableist, but I don’t think the act of wanting a healthy child is automatically ableist.

@mluna1898

3 ай бұрын

YES!

@katgreer6113

3 ай бұрын

people that say things like that usually are not disabled in anyway themselves.

@kunglaoshat1250

2 ай бұрын

@@katgreer6113 I’m not claiming to be a part of the disabled community. But I do have a condition that has had major negative effects on my life because of my brain chemistry. I’ve found ways to manage it, but it’s something I’m going to have to deal with in some shape or form for the rest of my life. I wouldn’t wish depressive episodes, mania or psychosis on anyone. At the same time I don’t think that makes me less valuable as a person. Judging by some of the other comments on this video there are some disabled people who feel the same. So even without officially being a part of that community I can relate to that perspective.

As a disabled person, a parent wanting to protect their child and not want them to be disabled in life is not abelist. Its protective. Being disabled is hard in this already difficult world, when you can't work or be fully employed and have to fight for shitty disability benefits where they question and belittle your disability is disheartening.

I feel bad for the cast because it seemed like they really tried to do their best with what they were given. Especially Sydney because she was so excited when it was announced that she was cast… she even got them to film as scene of her character in the outfit coming down from the ceiling upside down ballet style because she wanted to stick to the comic material… then they filmed the scene and CUT it from the film! Like wtf….. ugh. I fell like people she go see it to support the cast and the cast only!

How could she afford that huge furnished apartment in NY and an impromptu round trip to Peru? How much are EMT’s making? Also how did a suspected kidnapper even get on a flight especially one out of the country? From NY? This is post 9/11!

Okay look its not ablelist. I'm disabled and if my mum had the option to do something to ensure I never had my disability then I would want her to do it.

Respectfully, I don't understand how not wanting your child to have an inability to walk is ablelist.

@undeadalph

3 ай бұрын

yeah, preferring your child not have a disability or a mental impairment and trying to prevent that is very normal. it can feel a little strange if you think about it like a condemnation of people who live with these kinds of disabilities, but we are talking about unborn children and their potential for better health lol

@rahbeeuh

3 ай бұрын

It's ableist because it devalues the lives and lived experiences of Disabled people. That manner of thinkin' can be a slippery slope to eugenics.

It would have been so much cooler to have a disabled lead character. You could have done so much creative and cool shit and let the three teens do the fighting as spider people or whatever.

@interlude44

3 ай бұрын

I mean they tried that with echo … that turned out bad

@breadpilled2587

3 ай бұрын

@@interlude44 so just give up with disabled characters forever? Daredevil has worked for decades.

@kevinsmarts9953

3 ай бұрын

@@interlude44 It was so much better than this sludge and it got hit by a steep budget cut losing a whole episode, messing up the pace and plot line. Daredevil should still be coming out soon so we'll have one more disabled lead, let's all pray that it'll be 3rd time lucky.

@arkeshn729

3 ай бұрын

​@@breadpilled2587they use Daredevil's flaws and weaknesses. The comic Echo has a simple weakness, darkness. She's already deaf.

@breadpilled2587

3 ай бұрын

@@arkeshn729 I don't see what that has to do with my comment, but okay

i only started seeing commercials for this film maybe a month ago??? i had no clue they were doing this at all and its BS sony didn't hype up their women-fronted film more lol

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

I did get some ads for the film including the full trailer (which I seem be to getting ads for films everyone else says they don't get for some reason)

@kptmaci4979

3 ай бұрын

they did. Trailer flopped hard if you didnt notice. It was loud. People loudly hated on it, because it looked so bad. It was not at all an issue of marketing m8 xD If anything, I was suprised how much marketing it is for such obviously gonna-be-bad movie xD

This is my Wicked. I genuinely believed this movie was never gonna come out, but here it is

You could tell the movie wasn't going to be good from the trailers. There was more hype surrounding the Bob Marley movie than Madame Web because it's Bob Marley. Both of those movies came out yesterday and the reason it failed is that it isn't good and people stopped caring about Sony’s Spider-Man movies in general.

@catcloudstudios2732

3 ай бұрын

I love Spider-man so much and I felt bad when I saw the trailer bc I knew instantly it wasn't gonna be good

Is it ableist to try to prevent your daughter from having a harder life than most?

BYE U MAKE THESE VIDEOS WITH THE QUICKNESS 😭😭😭

@perryjones7771

3 ай бұрын

Literally though. Let me not become a celebrity and get cancelled😂😂😂😂 that video gone be up in 2.5 seconds

Brian deserves a medal for going along with this

The first time I heard about this movie was when Dakota was on SNL a few weeks ago. The beginning of your summary actually sounds like it has the potential to be a good and even unique movie with Dakota's character trying to protect these 3 girls, but it sounds like whatever potential it had was wasted.

All the ADR really top me out of the movie. The guy wasn’t even moving his lips but works were being spoken!!

That's not the truth, ellen.

From the footage you used in the video the sfx look like they are from a CW show 💀😭

Madame Web on Valentines Day? I hope you're still together!!

These are the only movies being made without being pitched. The most fundamental, day 1 core concept of storytelling, have an idea interesting enough where a one sentence pitch of it entices you to hear more, is being completely skipped. Look at Iron Man; selfish billionaire becomes selfless hero. That's interesting. Wonder Woman: Amazonian Warrior fights in WWII. Great hook. Infinity War: Superheroes must fight for half of all life in the universe. Big! Huge! And they fail? Wow! What is the pitch for Quantimania? Guy gets small for a third time? The Eternals? Space gods just hanging? The Marvels? A passive aggressive, a random side character, and an ok season one show go into space? If you don't care, why would anyone else?

I can not WAIT to see this movie on Saturday. It sounds like it has all the makings of a so bad it’s good trashterpiece

@miketrout4374

3 ай бұрын

no don’t waste your money or time, it’s not even a funny bad

@eurekamreum5458

3 ай бұрын

Not really. Not campy enough. It's just bad.

Sony should stick to the spiderverse style animated superhero movies. They could be doing something revolutionary for the whole genre of animation, like with spiderverse, instead of whatever this is

Superhero content going out sad rn.. praying Superman is good.

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

Superpowers are a genuinely cool concept however with Marvel and DC overall I find it very overwhelming with so much content that all ties into one another and as a person who tends to be committed when getting into long form media (mainly shows, books, and any other kind of series) I want to have the best experience I can have with it and with Marvel and DC there's just so much to sort through it makes me hesitant to even start getting into their stories at least anytime soon (I've already read a lot of comics but barely any Marvel or DC just creator owned/indie labels like Image, Vertigo, Dark Horse, BOOM, Oni Press, IDW, Black Mask, Aftershock, Vault, AWA Upshot, etc.)

Just heard a radio commercial for this movie and they said something like “a Marvel movie like you’ve never seen before” … I caught the word Marvel… I guess everyone’s confused who made this thing

"Incomprehensible" It's Sony, they're continuing to do the "Spiderman without Spiderman" universe, they have no idea what people like and don't like... and actors like Dakota Johnson and Sydney Sweeney have NO IDEA the difference between the MCU and SPUMM, nor do their agents, so they accidentally end up signing up for shit like this, apparently before reading the script and realizing what a mistake it was. It's VERY comprehensible.

@Kirasfox

3 ай бұрын

Companies tend to give out false scripts to actors 🤷🏾‍♀️ it's how fox got Halle berry to sign back on.

@katgreer6113

3 ай бұрын

it baffles me how they wouldn't know these things though? If you're gonna be in a movie that could potentially help plunge or skyrocket your career, maybe do...research? If the script was bad from the start then...why?

Brian is giving me and my husband ranting about video games and it brings me so much joy 😂

Also, I haven't seen the movie yet, but based on the trailers, I had a feeling they were going for a Scream meets Final Destination vibe and apparently it's not gonna be like that. Also they could've used Man-Spider as a villain, and even though he was like a variant of Spider-Man, they could've taken inspo from Man-Bat (a scientist who messes around and becomes a monster).

Did they not think about the confusing aspect of naming Dakota Johnson’s character Cassie (same as Sydney’s in Euphoria) ?? lol

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

Nah I don't think that's even worth considering. Cassandra is a fairly common name so her character sharing a name with a character Sydney Sweeney plays in a unrelated series isn't really worth considering. They aren't the only characters named Cassie in well known media (plus it's a easy off the tongue name to say with a very modern feel to it. I'm into Onomastics which is why I'm describing the name haha)

@kptmaci4979

3 ай бұрын

cmon xD Its different actress. Are you really saying its too confusing now if Sydney plays in any movie where there is another character named "Cassie" in the script?? XDDDDD She doesnt even play main character in Euphoria. I watched it all and I wouldnt remember her characters name from my mind. Its not coming up that often in the show

@brysoncherry9884

3 ай бұрын

And you know literally Antman. Another mcu series. His daughter is cassie

I used to be a big MCU Ant-Man fan. Then I saw Quantumania, and I was done. That and Thor:Love and Thunder killed my love for the MCU. The worst part is they wasn’t horrible films from start to finish. There were some interesting chara dynamics and plot points, but…they were overshadowed by the crap, and, yeah, I hated them. The climaxes were painful to watch. I left the theatre feeling hollow.

@LinkachuHQ

3 ай бұрын

watch The Marvels! it's the best of the recent MCU films and didn't deserve the amount of hate it got

I agree with everything except the ablist angle. While it is SUS that a formerly disabled superhero is bow able bodied, I think most parents to be would do whatever they could to have a healthy baby.....

@RABartlett

3 ай бұрын

One could make the argument that it's Pro-Life propaganda (Which really shows how complicated ableism is in regards to identity politics).

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

Any parent wanting the best for their child is definitely not bad at all however these "concerns" more often then not tend to be more self involved as the parents ideas for what they expect their child to be will not happen

@moxxibekk

3 ай бұрын

@@devonmunn5728 I can see that. I do know that if I were to have a pregnancy that could result in the fetus having a serious health problem, I would weight their potential quality of life (and mine as a potential life-long caregiver) into if I carried to term. The US is a dumpster fire when it comes to supporting parents with healthy children, let alone ones with complicated life-long medical needs.

I love how honest you are about things

Love your vids Kayla 🫶 keep up the good work!

shooting on location is super cool! it's neat to see your town and environs in film. I'm Canadian though so the places they film never actually play where they are. my one is Jackson WY in the Last of Us series, I saw my house!

Good god you’re quick

Perhaps that cringe line needs a bit of a tweek: "She was making a Marvel movie that was actually a Sony movie right before she fired her agent and her career died."

I purposely searched for a female review of this movie. Mainly because so many Alpha "Male!?" tend to complain more about a girl power threat to their "manhood" with female lead driven movies than actually tell you what's good or bad about the movie. Thank you for your honest take.

The Big Bad not aging at all between 30 years was really funny to me. Also the line reading from both the Big Bad and Spider Cass reminded me of the horrible line reading of Keanu in John Wick

I'm here with you on pretty much everything, but I do have one small gripe that is a pet peeve of mine. Idk why so many people misunderstand star wars so bad. The majority of the Jedi that we see don't come from any special lineage. Anakin himself was born a slave but became very powerful. The only legacy Jedi that we see is Luke (and that girl from the recent trilogy I really can't remember her name RN it's not a bit I swear). Of course the OT revolved around the family drama bc only Anakin could defeat the empire and only Luke could bring Anakin back from the dark side. But Jedi powers, while they can be passed down, appear almost at random. It's just that you have to be trained in order to use them or else you will basically be an ordinary person. For most of the story, all of the Jedi were dead or in hiding so ppl with potential weren't being trained or were being picked up by the sith. Saying that only specific bloodlines can be Jedi is blatantly untrue. Ppl only think that bc most of it follows a specific family drama+ the ppl making new movies don't have an understanding of the lore.

@bennruda11

3 ай бұрын

Because that's how disney and even the prequels made it woth the space jesus nonsense

i just cant believe ive been waiting years for anya corazon to be somewhat acknowledged by sony/marvel and THIS is how it happened

@sortasofi254

3 ай бұрын

also she has mexican-puerto rican parents. the fact that they used mexican and peruvian interchangeably for plot reasons is... questionable

Take something really awful to make me appreciate Venom 2 and Morbius. Here we are

What annoys me is if they asked ONE FAN, they would have instantly told her no don't do it they're tricking you.

Hard to find reviews by people who clearly would have hated it had it been a masterpiece. Thanks for this.

7:56 as someone with a sprained ankle, I wouldn't want my son to be born disabled. Your talking that as if being disabled is a good thing.

Yayyyyy I just made a bagel sandwich new Kayla says :3 !!!

@tp6440

3 ай бұрын

Lol I’m also eating a bagel (w avocado) that I just made

I heard this movie was originally supposed to be set in the Andrew Garfield universe, but they set it in 2003 and realized in the middle of making it that the timeline didn’t fit because Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man is too old to have been born in 2003, and so they just changed it to be in its own universe.

BRUH. I don't get how these corporations make these decisions when adapting stories from comic books. Mainly I don't get why they pick the characters that they do. Just like with The Eternals, I could tell the movie would flop based solely on the fact that nobody cares about the characters be it people new to comics or diehard fans either way. Just like that random movie being made about some D-tier wrestling Spiderman villain. It's gonna flop because nobody cares about them or cares enough to research them. Have they not learned from Morbius. Second, it sounds like they absolutely butchered Ezekiel Sims. SPOILER WARNING in the comics he's part of this group called The Inheritors and literally all they do is travel the multiverse and kill ALL spidermen. It's so bad that the story they were introduced in had Spiderman running to a universe being protected by an insanely powerful universal force, and even that wasn't a sure thing. All they do is wreck shit, and you're supposed to feel like Spiderman is in real danger when they're around. Not "oh no some girls are gonna kill me, better kill them first" etc. Third, if they're gonna go through the effort of making movies for obscure and/or deep cut characters, they need to either make a brand new storyline to accommodate them or go balls to the wall and stay 100% faithful to the source material. It's like this weird gray area that comic book storylines go through when being adapted that make them damn near unrecognizable. That only leads to disappointed newcomers or pissed off superfans. Corpos need to realize that it's okay to not baby the viewers and spoonfeed them some half assed attempted reconstruction. If an audience member is genuinely interested in the story, I guarantee they'll research more into it later. Rant over. Goddamn.

@brysoncherry9884

3 ай бұрын

You're talking about Kraven? What are they supposed to do. Spider vs goblin 99 more times. Or another boring animated flick with , and your own words, characters Noone knows or will look up. Spider 2099 sales and borrows went up after ATSV. Solopsistic redundant mook.

@kunglaoshat1250

3 ай бұрын

I think the Guardians of the Galaxy characters (before their movies) were about as well known to the average person as the Eternals characters were. Having a large built in fanbase helps, but ultimately it’s about the film’s execution. Guardians of the Galaxy made 3 good movies and are now household names. The Eternals made one mediocre movie and most people can only name one or two characters. With the right writing, directing and acting I think ALMOST any character can have a successful show/movie. There’s probably a way to make a cool Madam Webb or Morbius movie, but it would require more creativity and skill than whoever worked on those films had.

@nubocerbo

3 ай бұрын

@@kunglaoshat1250 slight agree but I'd argue that Chris Pratt did a lot of carrying for the first movie (I haven't seen the other two). You're right that it's the people working on them seeing dollar signs instead of storylines

There's also the possibility that Sony tricks actors into believing their no-Spider-Man universe is in the MCU. Tyrese from morbius flat out said he thought so, Matt Smith joined because of Karen Gillan, Bad Bunny, before he left, was "excited to join the Marvel family" even though all he had at the time was Venom and Morbius! Dakota Johnson and Sydney Sweeney tagged Marvel Studios in their posts about the movie even though they have nothing to do with it. Edit: actually, Doom Blazer explains it better than I could kzread.infoa6AqPXtetqM?si=FFkaFWK9cUx_yNrU

@firstlast9846

3 ай бұрын

Tbf Tyrese also thought Martin Scorsese praised Morbius on opening night so 🤷🏾‍♂️ 💀 but you’re right they wanna stay close to the MCU.. even tho if they just made a few more movies like Spiderverse they wouldn’t need Kevin Fiegie or Disney.

@kptmaci4979

3 ай бұрын

yup. They not only straight up lie to actors, they also obviously lie to audiences since first Venom movie that they are, or WILL BE part of mcu (remember - first Venom - awkward interviews with Amy Pascal and Kevin Feige when Amy says "there always possibility" and Kevin is like "what?" and his face clearly says "We just wanted spiderman, you put literally no effort into making good movie with venom, not to mention in any way opening it to being in mcu, world literally contradicted any mcu rules and now you want, so on which basis do you want access to our audience and playing in same playground without bringing any work of your own?", then Venom 2 and mentioning "spider" in the trailer by Carnage when obviously it had nothing to do with spiderman yet again, then Morbius with fake spiderman poster from the game + Vulture for no reason, then Madame Web with literally putting Ezekiel into fake spiderman costume). Sonyverse literally came to be, because Sony came up with "brilliant idea" to cash off on mcu popularity with whats left of rights to marvel characters they have. And they put 0 effort, put as little budget as possible into cgi & writing, clearly hoping just the characters popularity and relation to marvel will make audiences make each movie next "joker" - small budget movie with close to billion in box office (hah). + what pisses me even more they dont even get main characters right. They literally turn every VILLAIN they make movie about into hero, not letting them be villains for even 5 seconds, making those movies boring as hell. Look at Joker. This is how you make villain-movie. Meanwhile Venom is straight up hero, same with Morbius who kills only bad guys if any. Next up I bet Kraven wont even kill any animals and the lion fur he wears around the neck he didnt even hunt down xD Probably Russel Crowe is bad dad who hunts and Kraven stops him or some bs, cause appareantly Kraven THE HUNTER will be now animal friend, cause nobody will like the 'hunter' and buy him as hero, he isnt supposed to be xD Ffs. Let those characters back to marvel studios. Let Kraven hunt animals, like the selfish, self absorbed hunter he is.

Can someone please save Sidney Sweeney from whoever is giving her those projects?

It feels kinda ableist and ageist that for starters they chose a young able-bodied actress to play what was originally a blind, disabled elderly woman, and to have the young able-bodied actress then portray being blind and disabled at the end. Along with the healing, pregnancy plot point.

@luisnavarro5298

3 ай бұрын

I don’t know what to tell you bro, they’re not going to cast some blind disabled person when they can cast a decently famous actor who they can send on press tours

@klaradolejsi7103

3 ай бұрын

I agree

The state of the Sonyverse, is like that one episode of Spongebob called Squiliam returns, where a bunch of Spongebobs around running around and panicking inside Spongebob's head, while everything is on fire.

@jackreiter7291

3 ай бұрын

“What’s his name?! I got nothing on his name!”

They did shoot in New York. I recognized a location in the Bronx when Cassandra was driving the ambulance and Maddie flipped her off at the start of the movie. I thought it was hilarious that they were using the Bronx as a stand in for Queens 🤣

I kind of want to see it now 😂

Genuine question how is the "He was in the amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders when she died' is a line that people consider "stupid" and a "bad line". I really don't get how that can make people laugh at it and saying it's a "bad line". To note i am Autistic and don't really get alot of neurotypical standards so yeah. I'm also asking cause i do like getting insight on other people's thoughts on things But also i hope I'm spared mocking replies that i have "low standards" in media if i don't see how people find it to be a bad line which by the way i don't intend on seeing the movie

@SchulzEricT

3 ай бұрын

I think a large part of it is how on the nose it is. You've heard "show, don't tell"? Some of the worst lines are when writers are so incompetent or just lazy that they don't even try... also, it's in SPUMM, and every movie they've made thus far has been so bad, so generic, so lazy, so uninspired... they just don't get the benefit of the doubt. (ie if that line were in, say, the MCU... people would probably just pass it by. If you asked about it, they might comment on how it's silly, but I don't think it would have gotten the same reception. Context matters.)

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

@@SchulzEricT The telling instead of showing definitely is a low effort in order to communicate with something. With that type of method in storytelling it wouldn't be surprising if the script writer was in a rush and didn't want to take much time to write the line before catching up on a deadline

So not wanting your child to be disabled is ablist ? I'm pretty sure disabled people don't see their own situation as positive

the fact that the trailer wasn’t even good AND it turns out it was intentionally misleading !! You know your movie is bad when you have to trick people into thinking they’re seeing something else… eek

In comics Madame Web is paraplegic, which is why she has her whole spider setup. So i assume them teasing that in the movie is to tease her future appearance as a more comic accurate madame web

The worst superhero movie I’ve ever seen was Batman vs Superman

Love Sony for the Spider-verse and total disregard for Disney when it comes to streaming the Spider-man films. Just sad they wast everybody’s time with these bad spider-man live-action spin-offs.

Hey, Kayla. You got the Sony thing wrong. Sony doesn't have the rights to Spidey movies, they co-own the character. If they never make another Spider-Man related movie, they still have the rights. And if they want to make an entire new universe apart from the MCU, they also can. That's the motivation. They aren't putting out movies to avoid losing the rights, they want it.

This movie clearly proves they have rights to all characters based AROUND Spiderman, yet they clearly cant show spiderman in any form, or even legally say "Peter Parker", or "Aunt May" xD Let the sonyverse shitverse end... The next movie they are making with Kraven - Kraven appareantly also will be bs, cause he is gonna be friend to animals xD Kraven THE HUNTER. They are not gonna let any titular VILLAIN in their universe be actual villain for even 5 seconds.

@devonmunn5728

3 ай бұрын

Also I hate how copyright laws can ruin shit so easily

I will never understand how Sony can get it together for the animated spidey content but fails so hard in this. I have wanted to see a live action Anya Corazon for years and I'm so sad it had to be in a garbage film.

7:37 i think this take is weird. I don’t agree that its ableist. I think theres a difference between a disability and a life threatening disease or birth defect which I think was what they were going for

Went opening night and it was just me and my gf in Theater. Nobody else literally I laid across 3 seats.

I get what you mean that the way they handled the baby disability plot was a bit meh, but I think the main issue isn’t the “implied ableism” or whatever it’s just the fact they could’ve had amazing representation for the mobility/ blind disability communities but they MISSED it and instead of casting someone who could fulfil that role, they casted an able bodied person and wrote in a way for her to avoid being disabled at the start, and then get disabled. Would’ve been much more affective to just have an actress who has a disability play this role, give them a little background etc. from the sounds of it this whole movie could’ve been a flash back or condensed to the first 10 mins of an actually good superhero movie imo!

knowing sony’s track record with super hero movies post MCU creation, i didn’t expect much from Madame Web but somehow this sounds worse😭

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I'd be really interested to see if you have the same thoughts in 6 months or so. Then again that might warrant you to rewatch Madame Web and I wouldn't ask you to do that unless you wanted to. As for the ableist angle of this film... I rolled my eyes so hard at that scene AND how (in 2003) did a woman wanted for kidnappin' travel to the Amazon without a hitch?

It’s very comprehensible to me💀

Aren't superhero films for kids or CBD chewing teenagers to enjoy? Why do so many "adults" lose their shit over these vacuous infantile movies?

The fact that Dakota Johnson fired her agents the very same day that the trailer dropped shows she knew this was a stinker waiting to bomb harder than the Enola Gay.

I heard the original plot of this movie was Madame Web and the other Spider Women were supposed to protect Peter Parkers mom before she he born from Morlun What happened to that movie

Sydney Sweeney being in this film but not playing the character named Cassie made listening to this video very confusing at times 🤣🤣

she looks like Kacey Musgraves on some of the promo material, but I did see a dope poster for this at the theatre

They really said “I’m just here for the money”

Yay, I just watched the movie and need to understand why

"i thought it was like so bad it was good" LMFAO literally me

I didnt want to see it before but now I do for the trashfire 🔥

Worst superhero movie I've ever seen, without doubt, was Elektra. I am the rare Daredevil (2003) defender, I think it's vastly over-hated, but man, the spinoff/sequel is so much worse. It was a date night too though, so at least I got a decent dinner.

Well first of all, it's a superhero movie, so you should be prepared for some standard-level of suspension of disbelief (like Cassie's Mom's motives for going to the Amazon). Anyway, for what it was, I thought Madame Web was pretty good. The story took its time to build characters (y'know, the level of character development which is sufficient for a good superhero-movie), it did a slow reveal of Cassie's powers, it got you to invest in the fate of the characters. The human drama, in other words, it got right. Making Cassie the lynchpin of the girls' fateful coming-together was interesting and good storytelling. I also like the flash-forwards to the women with their powers, and also how the movie did _not_ the step to accomplish that transformation in this movie itself. Yeah, you can say that there were commercial motives behind that, but nonetheless it gives the events of the movie an air of mystery and it _worked,_ dramatically. I especially liked the line that Cassie gets while in the Amazon, a great inversion of the Stan Lee line: "With responsibility, comes great power." Awesome, really. Anyway it's plain that the anti-hype made your mind up about this movie, before you even saw it.

It's just sad. The comic versions of these heroines are badass, sexy, and skilled and have great stories to tell. but when the script is so boring that not even the actors want to act out the text, it's just a waste of everyones time and money

This sony should be doing 1) Bring back Andrew Garfield Spiderman 2) Make a live-action Miles Morales Movie , 3) Make a live action Spider Gwen movie. 4) Stop making the villains good guys.

@bbrbbr-on2gd

3 ай бұрын

2 and 3 would be difficult. Miles and Spider Gwen were created long after the Movie rights were bought by Sony. It's a weird crisscross of who can do what, with which character. Marvel has TV rights, Sony film; Sony has the rights to the rogues gallery, Marvel has the MCU. Sony could probably only use Miles and Gwen after the reworked deal with Marvel.

@icecreamhero2375

3 ай бұрын

@@bbrbbr-on2gd Oh then they can still do number 1. Spiderman can be like James bond and have a ton of movies. Rather than trying to make a cinematic universe.

@kptmaci4979

3 ай бұрын

@@icecreamhero2375 i dont know if they can make spiderman. They clearly cant even legally say "peter parker" or "aunt may" in their movies xDDD

@icecreamhero2375

3 ай бұрын

@@kptmaci4979 What if they hired people to make their own comics, they got published as Marvel comics, and then they made the movies so they would fit right in.

We are so back

Toxic came out in 2004 lol

thats the spider pig theme song and not an actual spiderman tune right??? RIGHT!?!?!?!

I didn't see this in theaters cause of all the negative reviews, but I did decide to check it out last night when I saw they put it on Netflix. I do agree with you that the scene with Cassie's mom was ableist and I was surprised more people didn't at least mention this in their reviews, but society is still very ableist so naturally they're going to miss a lot of things. Now, before anyone says "not wanting your child to suffer or have a hard/difficult life because of disability is not ableist," I agree. So let me explain why I still think that scene was ableist (or at the very least ignorant and/or laziness on the part of the filmmakers/studios). I actually took the time to look up exactly what type of condition Cassie was going to be born with and how it would effect her life (something the writers/filmmakers clearly did not do or they failed to edit/change that part of the storyline when they were making edits to everything else). In the movie, the doctor tells Cassie's mom that she would be born with Myasthenia Gravis (MG). Now MG is a condition that "impacts young adult women (under 40) and older men (over 60)... Although myasthenia gravis is rarely seen in infants, in a condition called neonatal myasthenia the fetus may acquire antibodies from the mother. Neonatal myasthenia gravis is generally TEMPORARY, and the child's symptoms usually DISAPPEAR within two to three months after birth" (I'll site all my sources below). Neonatal MG "can happen in babies born to mothers with MG. It occurs when antibodies from MG cross over to the baby growing in the mother’s uterus. Transient neonatal MG usually lasts only a short time. The symptoms go away WEEKS or MONTHS after birth, as the antibodies are naturally replaced. Babies are NOT at greater risk of developing MG later in life." Now assuming the writers/filmmakers were talking about this type of MG (not the Congenital type, which is a slightly different condition that I'll get to in a moment), then the fact that Cassie's mom was so quick to jump to "let me go to the Amazon against my doctor's advice and risk myself and my daughter to find this rare spider with healing properties" (that still may not have cured her child, it was a gamble cause she didn't have any definitive proof/evidence that it would even work), that to me screams ableist. She didn't even bother asking the doctor what would it mean for her child to have this condition? What's the prognosis? How is it going to effect her life? Are there any current treatment options or therapies? What can we do? These are all questions that a concerned parent who just wants the best for their child and wants their child to be healthy would ask. However, I can see an ableist parent just automatically jumping to "let me go on this dangerous quest in search of a mythical spider with healing abilities in the hopes that it'll 'save/cure' my child." And if she had asked, then maybe the doctor would have explained that babies with Neonatal MG have their symptoms disappear within a couple of months after birth (assuming it actually was Neonatal MG cause they didn't specify in the movie exactly what type, but that one is more common in newborns). Now, there is a more rare form of MG called Congential Myasthenic Syndrome (CMS) and I'm going to assume that this is probably the type they meant for Cassie to have as the doctor did mention it's a "genetic neuromuscular disorder" and the Neonatal type is not genetic, but CMS is. There are many different subtypes of CMS and depending on the subtype, the muscles that are affected, and age of onset, the prognosis varies widely, but if diagnosed and treated early most "children with CMS will be able to walk independently," while some may need more supports and monitoring of their lung function, "most people with CMS find their muscle strength improves with time and the need for medication reduces. Some will need life-long medication to maintain muscle strength. In some instances, body strength may improve with treatment, but eyelid droop and eye movements do not." Now I'm not trying to downplay the serious of CMS cause again depending on severity, there are some on the severe end who experience breathing difficulties and may need a ventilator, however there are also some with mild symptoms who have a normal life expectancy. We don't know how it would've effected Cassie till she was born and while it's true that there's no cure for CMS, there are treatments for it that can help (and before anyone tries to say "well this was 1973, maybe they didn't have any treatment for it back then" treatment for CMS has been around since the 1930s). However, the type of treatment used is going to depend on the type of CMS she has because not all CMS can be treated the same and a treatment for one type might actually make another type worse, which brings me back to her mom wanting to experiment with this rare spider in hopes of curing her. What if the spider had actually made her type of CMS worse? What would she have done then? She was so determined not to have a disabled child that she'd rather experiment with an unknown treatment rather than wait to find out her actual prognosis and then proceed with the treatments they do know have been used/worked for CMS. Also, the fact that she said, "I'm not going to accept a diagnosis of helplessness and I'm not going to teach my daughter to either," like what? Who says acknowledging your child's disability is teaching them to accept "helplessness"? Are you saying every disabled person who accepts/acknowledges they have a disability is completely "helpless"? They can't be independent or do anything for themself, they're just doomed to a life of "helplessness"? Someone tell me how this doesn't come across as ableist as fuck? Anyway, I'm done ranting for now, but yes that scene was ableist in my view, and I'll list all my sources on MG & CMS below. www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/myasthenia-gravis www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK558935/ www.musculardystrophyuk.org/conditions/a-z/congenital-myasthenic-syndrome-cms/ myastheniagravisnews.com/congenital-myasthenia/ www.stanfordchildrens.org/en/topic/default?id=myasthenia-gravis-mg-in-children-90-P02612 www.mda.org/disease/congenital-myasthenic-syndromes/medical-management journals.lww.com/co-neurology/fulltext/2019/10000/the_congenital_myasthenic_syndromes__expanding.8.aspx#:~:text=Adrenergic%20agonists%2C%20in%20particular%20ephedrine%2C%20have%20been,have%20re%2Dentered%20as%20a%20mainstream%20option%20in rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/congenital-myasthenic-syndromes/#disease-overview-main myasthenia.org/Newly-Diagnosed/For-Parents#:~:text=Remember%20that%20your%20child%20can,long%2Dterm%20or%20future%20MG. publications.aap.org/neoreviews/article-abstract/11/4/e200/87238/Myasthenia-Gravis-in-the-Neonate?redirectedFrom=fulltext Also, I shouldn't have to say this for my opinion to be considered valid, but since this is the internet and I know someone will inevitably deem what I say as less valid unless I'm part of the disability community, yes, I am disabled myself. I actually do have a neuromuscular disorder, not the same one as Cassie, but similar as mine (SMA) also affects the muscles and causes weakness. Difference is from what I've read it seems like CMS (depending on type & severity & the persons response to treatment) can actually improve/get better over time, whereas mine just continues to get worse over time (though if you're lucky, you can maintain the same level for quite a while & with some of the new treatments you might see a bit of improvement).

Worst Comic Book/Superhero Movies I've seen (in no particular order): Suicide Squad Shazam 2 Justice League (Joss's Version) Batman V Superman Morbius Daredevil (2003) (Not even the director's cut impressed me very much) Hulk (2003) X-Men: Apocalypse X-Men: Dark Phoenix X-Men: The Last Stand Venom Venom 2 Thor: Love & Thunder Black Adam Teen Titans Go! to the Movies Jonah Hex Wonder Woman 1984 Green Lantern Fantastic Four (2015) The Amazing Spider-Man 2

@mackthemouse8443

3 ай бұрын

Blue Beetle was pretty bad too.

@JamesLawner

3 ай бұрын

@@mackthemouse8443 Maybe for you, but for me it was mid, which isn’t as bad as the other movies I listed.

So beautiful seeing you and your boyfriend having fun after watching something horrible ❤