Attempting to explain why people are mad about AS7 in 15 minutes or less
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0:00 Everybody loves Jinkx
2:11 Season 9 ruined everything
5:27 the All Stars 7 Format
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Listen I probably should have put a disclaimer somewhere in here but I'm an online entertainer, a lot of my commentary is pointed for comedic effect and I'm well aware that it's "just a show" lmao. Idk if I came off harsher in this video than normal or what but I am a FAN of the show and I very much appreciate this cast and the fact that they were all willing to come back and entertain us for a few weeks. Jeez lol, it's not that serious and it's not the end of the world if you don't agree with me. The internet is wild sometimes.
@gasparnuno7737
Жыл бұрын
Lmao ok but you should change the title of the video. If YOU are mad about it, embrace it. Who are you, btw?
@wildcard7449
Жыл бұрын
I've been on the channel long enough that I've gotten used to your commentary style and, I'm personally a huge fan of it. But yeah disclaimers always help.
@nc5809
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE all of your videos, and think you have such an excellent point of view and articulate your points very well. I know you aren’t being super “serious” and are just giving some commentary. If the internet comes for you, let em’. You have actual television experience (as a career) and these heauxs don’t know anything (me included lmao) sending you tons of love from Denver!
@rosesanderson4625
Жыл бұрын
I've not watched a bit of this show since the early days and even then I was never invested. I watch your videos for your commentary and analysis and think you balance criticism with levity well.
@codyhughes1147
Жыл бұрын
You didnt sound bitchy at all. If anybody is mad its mostly a them kind of thing. Sadly the rpdr fan group is highly toxic.
“No one would have any problem with the outcome of this finale, if it was not decided by a lip sync for the crown” sums it up in one sentence.
@Cashcash08
Жыл бұрын
This.
@montagne5825
Жыл бұрын
...RuPaul literally said she will make her decision based on the lip sync AND their performance throughout the season. What's not clicking?
@SHIkun9000
Жыл бұрын
@@montagne5825 They ADR:d that it in in the last minute lol
@julantapitan3249
Жыл бұрын
@@montagne5825 because, it made what could've been a great ending for Jinkx's run a questionable one, a deserving and popular winner but it made alot of people mad because of the format
@SaraMcNutz
Жыл бұрын
@@montagne5825 what’s not clicking is the fact they added that a few seconds before they crowned jinkx. why have a lipsync smackdown when they were just gonna crown her anyways?
All Stars always manage to deliver a finale that pisses the fandom off.
@dominicrochon5501
Жыл бұрын
I think the only all stars finale that wasn't disliked was the all stars 6 one
@dameorgazmagoodnight6047
Жыл бұрын
@@dominicrochon5501 No trust me that one as well
@kinesin8221
Жыл бұрын
yeah i genuinely cannot think of a single uncontroversial all stars win
@freddywilson
Жыл бұрын
@@kinesin8221 all stars 2
@belphie._.
Жыл бұрын
@@freddywilson ppl wanted katya to win
On a tangent, I’d just like to add that Sasha Velour had scissors hidden in her dress and if she had gotten “Stronger” instead of “So Emotional” she had a whole different performance planned where she would cut up the dress as she performed it. She planned two different performances matched to two different songs that used one outfit.
@subarashi263
Жыл бұрын
She was gonna eat that up as well holy smokes
@YoMama9021
Жыл бұрын
Yes I disagree with this person. RuPaul and his production team just wanted to try something new. Honestly I’ve seen worst!
@TheLastEgg08
Жыл бұрын
@@janeeyre1990 It’s one of the lipsyncs that will live rent free in my mind for the rest of my life
@omarcasique4014
Жыл бұрын
She was going to cut her wig, if I'm not mistaken, thus revealing the roses and her bald head at the end.
@JuanitoEsBonito
Жыл бұрын
We also can't forget that Trinity and Pep strategically planned to go against each other because they knew production would want Shea and Sasha in the top
One of the most bizarrely unsatisfying aspects of this is that it ended up feeling like almost everyone was ‘robbed’ simultaneously Both Jaida and the Viv were robbed of top-4 spots despite great track records through contrived endgame twists, Shea was robbed of dignity in the finale due to benefitting unfairly from said endgame twists, and Monet was robbed of the win given the purported format despite clearly slaying both of her lip-syncs. Then Jinkx deserved her overall win but was robbed of the opportunity to come out looking victorious after being clearly out-performed in both finale lip-syncs, and Raja had to earn hers on the back of a track record that painted her as a weak link when she was actually consistently excellent throughout. A bit of a mess overall, though at least the winning pair were deserving in the end
@kimcornelissen1529
Жыл бұрын
Very well put.
@JC-yy8iv
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@brunoir283
Жыл бұрын
wait but what is jaidas great track record? she won 2 stars and was rarely high in any challenge if at all...? i'm just trying to understand bc you're insinuating that her track record was better than that of monet, shae (who both won 2 as well) or trinity (who won the same challenges + 2)
@craigh5343
Жыл бұрын
you mean the Vivenne. she was robbed, along with Yvie. I really dont like how they set it up. it was amazing season until the ending. its very GOT same ending, very predictable. boring shit.
@huystorian1449
Жыл бұрын
@@brunoir283 yes, but given the rules of the game I think the star she was gifted also counts for something. She ‘earned’ that star in the social meta-game, which in the All Stars format is as valid as a challenge win
production literally had a satisfying finale waiting for them on a silver platter with jinkx, one of the most beloved fan favorites of the franchise, being the clear front runner, and they chose to fuck it up by doing a lipsync for the crown with swish swish of all songs... can we just be past the point of lipsync for the crown already? we don't need the final 2 to lipsync to determine a winner, especially when the lipsync doesn't influence the decision anyway
@aorelain
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Jinkx served ate and cleaned up this season. Why would the winner be decided based on who moves their hips better on swish swish? Wtf now really...
@LumpyBlueSweater
Жыл бұрын
Lmao you sheeple are so pathetic. Its just a tv show lmao 🤣
@lareinabrown
Жыл бұрын
Yesss oh my god whyyyy did they pick that song
@twoboysmom7423
Жыл бұрын
Good thing Ru said it wasn't a lipsync for the crown. She said it was to be based on the entire season.
@hotsexyangel
Жыл бұрын
FR i hate the lip syncs for the crown 😭 I always have tbh, they just don’t work. And they just get more boring & repetitive each time.
They were hyping up the fact that the whole competition rides on the LSFTC but it ended up not mattering. They fucked Jinkx and Monét over.
@primadonna_tha_Six
Жыл бұрын
⬆️THIS⬆️
@jimmyisherenow
Жыл бұрын
The last episode was just for show. We didnt even need all those lip syncs and the mini challenge before that. we knew jinx would win, or everyone would declare riggery.
@Roryloves.
Жыл бұрын
Probably why Monet declared that AS7 would be her Last time on the show. She felt what was going on and decided to never come back.
@ice-sk6wq
Жыл бұрын
@@Roryloves. she knew how it was gonna end
@twoboysmom7423
Жыл бұрын
it was NEVER a lipsync for the crown. Did you even watch the show?
i would have LOVED to see a finale with a live audience for as7. i think it brings so much more energy and a new vibe to the last performances. i’m still upset they didn’t do it
@michaelbarron2552
Жыл бұрын
I think this was one of the biggest mistakes of the season and a big disservice to the Queens. Ru has the money and they really could have made the finale a spectacle.
@nucomme
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbarron2552 I don’t think it was a money issue…it probably had more to do with scheduling and COVID which becomes complicated when it comes to inviting an audience.
@davidkonevky7372
11 ай бұрын
I'd argue all stars deserves just as much of a big finale as the normal seasons
So, I'll start off by saying that I really, really enjoyed AS7. It was good to see so many of the queens that I love, and I, too, REALLY enjoyed Yvie this season. It was nice to watch a season where I would've been happy to see ANY of the queens take the crown. Having said that, I've ALWAYS disliked the Lip-Sync for the Crown mechanic. I didn't like it in Season 9 (no offense AT ALL to Sasha Velour... she's an amazing queen), but seeing Shea and Trinity dominate the competition all season only to bow out unceremoniously in the end was a bummer. I really didn't want to see that happen again this season. It would've been a crime for Jinkx to leave without the crown after having won half of the challenges, and delivering virtually the best Snatch Game of the entire series. Making her compete for her win against two queens that outshone her in the Lip-Sync challenge was a bad decision (since it renders the lip sync pointless). Jinkx ALREADY secured her win in the competition. I wish they would just do a big finale where all the queens get to perform purely for entertainment, and crown the queen who's won the most challenges (unless there's a tie). We don't need to be kept in suspense. By the finale, you pretty much KNOW who deserves to win.
@marinemanaphy101
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it’s not a bad thing for an outcome to become clearer/more predictable over the course of a season. Same with any competition. All Stars 6 did a really good job of keeping everyone neck-and-neck and feeling like it was earned, but AS7 felt like it was desperately trying to throw you off of feeling certain Jinkx would win.
@claudiaclau1999
Жыл бұрын
i love Yvie🥰
@ivananarchy17
Жыл бұрын
All this text and no substance, so DO we have a problem or not?
@reyemilio00
Жыл бұрын
@@ivananarchy17 I enjoyed AS7, but dislike the lip sync for the crown mechanic. I don't like it in ANY season. The lip sync for the crown either renders the challenge wins throughout the season pointless (as in season 9), or ends up being meaningless because the queen that is favored to win (and has won too many challenges) loses the lip syncs, but still wins, anyway (as in All-Stars season 7).
@little.boy.dallas
Жыл бұрын
totally right 👏🏻💯 it should've been a show finale
I have always found the talent show to be one of the most underutilized challenges for the queens. The opportunity to have 60 seconds on stage to do whatever you want is so good and I wish that queens would do more than just try to launch their next single. I also wish that the finale was more like the talent show. The solo performances get close to being decent but the custom songs usually suck or are SO on the nose for the storyline for the queen. Season 12 was great because they just said "do whatever you want and we'll get you rights to a song if you want" and you really got to see the queens excel at what they were good at instead of just having to do a live lip sync for no reason.
@alyssagangi5341
Жыл бұрын
They needed to have the variety show challenge and a separate lip sync extravaganza challenge. The lip sync challenge should be the girls do a solo act and can pick the song (can be their own song), costumes, set etc. By having a challenge like that, it would help avoid the girls using the variety show as means to highlight their new single. Even using that as the finale mechanic would be better, like in season 7. Maybe they need to exclude lip syncing from the variety show, only live singing.
@marinemanaphy101
Жыл бұрын
I think part of the difficulty is that a lot of drag queens necessarily share a pretty similar pool of skills, and a lot of those skills aren’t really the kinds of things that can be performed in 60 seconds so they end up pigeonholed into a pretty limited number of options. Singing, dancing, and lipsyncing can happen in a minute, but many of those drag related skills like makeup or sewing aren’t really one-minute talents - even stuff like standup needs a little more time to really get going. Bumping up the maximum allowable time to 3-5 minutes would do a lot to open up options for queens in the talent show.
@kerianpearson9796
Жыл бұрын
I love the talent show, I think it’s a great opportunity to showcase lesser known talents the Queens have. I think it’s undervalued by the producers.
@_VenomicA_
Жыл бұрын
Well the reason why most queens perform their own songs is because they can't use copyrighted music, so I don't blame them
@yraco1232
Жыл бұрын
@@marinemanaphy101 This. Like I've seen Jinkx live and it was an absolute treat but she's not really able to set up anything in 60 seconds so we get a song with no context and it was fun but she can do more given time.
I was rooting for Jinkx since the cast was announced. Snatch game was amazing and i instantly said “just give her the crown now”. As episodes went on it kept building on that thought. She is the best… So final episode came along I was biased towards Jinkx but Monet killed the Lip Sync and I knew she was going to win. So it had a strange affect to hear RuPaul say Jinkx won. Ultimately the lip sync never was supposed to determine the winner of the crown yet in episode one RuPaul said it was. And that’s what my issue was even as someone who was rooting for Jinkx
@kimcornelissen1529
Жыл бұрын
getting stars was announced in episode one as the way to determine who would be in the final 4. they then go on to lip-sync for the crown. However they then should have played it straight and not messed around giving free stars away or 3 stars in the final and then people would have said fair enough they are the strongest through out the competition go lip-sync for the crown. Instead because of star system people who were strong didn't get into the top 4, and the person with the most stars and had the strongest lip sync didn't win the crown.
@draquela96
Жыл бұрын
I felt the same as you, rooting for Jinkx but Monet clearly won lip sync so then I was confused.
@twoboysmom7423
Жыл бұрын
But if you listen to Ru she said based on the season, the winner would be chosen. THEY never said it is determined by one lip sync. Rewatch to see.
@Alan-eq2ld
Жыл бұрын
@@twoboysmom7423 yea that was said but if you look and listen you’ll see that it seems like that line was added after. We don’t actually see Ru say that and it just sounds different. The original plan was to base the win on the lip sync. Just like they’ve been doing for a while now.
Shae's joke about "the true power of the plunger" actually had me thinking on a cool way to make the lipsync for the crown kinda fun: the playlist. Before filming starts, all queens makes a wishlist of songs they would love to lipsync on the show, the legal team sees if they have clearance for them and they go back and forth for a while until each queen has 1 or 2 plausible songs that they like and that the show could get the rights to, and getting blocked means your song gets added to the roster, or an extra box or something, representing that you were seen as a threat and that you have more incentive to fight harder to get into the top. It could be handled as a half twist, where only the blocked queens know about it and can't tell others (for whatever reason) and maybe even block queens who they think would've pick songs that they themselves could slay in. It does get revealed as everyone is blocked, or maybe in this version, not everyone would find out, but you reveal it to the audience at the start: whoever is blocked is less likely to reach the final fight but gets a sort of say on how it plays out. I mean, obviously my absolute favorite version doesn't involve the plunger, it would be each queen choosing one song and the entire lipsync battles being ones the queens chose, like everyone has a one in eight chance to do their jam. As a producer, it's easy as hell to manipulate which song actually comes out for each case, so you can have Jinkx do Patty LuPone's version of "Ladies Who Lunch" against Monet and make it very easy on the editors to make her undisputed.
@MiuXiu
Жыл бұрын
To your last sentence- Naomi did expose that the producers had all of the song cases as the same song for the lip sync twist episode in all stars 4, so they had basically pre chosen the song for each duo and gave the illusion of a choice lol. So I’m assuming the producers have done the same every time there’s been a choice with cases in every other season.
@phantomask
Жыл бұрын
This is a great Idea. I wish production would see or read this for next Winner season
@abj6920
Жыл бұрын
@@MiuXiu Yeah, I hadn't heard Naomi say that, but I assumed that's what they were doing, it's like "magician who performs for kids" level of trickery to have both boxes say the same thing
@alim.9801
Жыл бұрын
I really like that playlist idea omg
Drag race is fighting to justify the lipsync for the crown cause they hate to admit when they go wrong. imaging producing a finale with such a bizarre format an outcome you make one of the best winners of the franchise’s win seem invalidated. I just hope no one gets on jinkxs case, because I’ve already seen many money stans be so nasty to her for no reason. Drag race does stunts like these and then wonder why the queens receive so much hate, it’s like there baiting the fans and then pretending thy didn’t do anything to cause it.
@skyco5395
Жыл бұрын
it's not "Monet stans" although I'm glad monet is getting finally her popularity. it's more of... Yvie, Sasha and Willow WON their seasons, because they won the lip syncs for the crown fair and square. why is there an exception with Monet. i know its all stars, the stakes are higher. but this was a lip sync for the CROWN. for the win
@icannot1104
Жыл бұрын
Bro. Monet got crapped on the whole season by you guys? What are you even saying? Why do yall do that?
@juzo..
Жыл бұрын
@@icannot1104 ok what did this comment have to do with monet? They weren't coming for her. They could've reworded it better quoted ALL of the contestants toxic fans are coming for Jinx
@icannot1104
Жыл бұрын
@@juzo.. Idk what world you live where you can control what i choose to speak on? Or bring up. Feeling like it correlated or not. (Which you are the only one with this perception so camp..) but your privilege is slipping. I can bring up, speak or or talk about whatever i want. Rather it correlates with your perception or not. . 💀 The audacity
@0927kira
Жыл бұрын
Its not even that bad? especially not compared to the racist stuff Monet had to go through in AS4
Yeah, to sum up the last two eps left some people with a sour taste on their mouths because they basically contradicted this whole season's narrative. Of course they would want Jinkx, the multitalented lovable weirdo from one of the best drag race seasons, as a winner, it was the best and safest choice to make. So why oh why, would they do her, Monet and all the other contestants dirty like that? Having a challenge that in the end wouldn't matter on the overall result just damaged the winner's storyline. Also, I feel bad for Yvie not winning any cash despite being the only one that still knows how to do reveals and when she objectively won the lip syncs Edit: Having done a little rewatch, I just realized that the final lip sync should have been the monologue one. Sure, Monet won that one but it was more equal than the last one they had and would have been a great surprise
@marydethmailer1619
Жыл бұрын
I think they want the fans to see this show on a different light. They’re trying to show that they value talent and performance. Losing a lip sync performance could just be a one night gig.
@marydethmailer1619
Жыл бұрын
If they did the monologue, they would still be accused of rigging the whole show as it would come across more as favoring Jinks by giving her a non choreographed lip sync performance. I am just very sad that Jinkx’s win seem tainted by the finale.
@joshcarroll3340
Жыл бұрын
I knew they were gonna make things spicy towards the end, but the fact that Shea went from literal last place to top 4 is insane. Jinkx and maybe Trinity are the only ones up there that genuinely earned those spots
@little.boy.dallas
Жыл бұрын
@@joshcarroll3340 I totally agree with you 💯
@michaelkoutros2516
Жыл бұрын
@@joshcarroll3340 You could also argue monet justifingly being there aswell since she would've still been in the top4 if there was no twist on the talent show.
My honest opinion is that the last two episodes aren't enough to ruin this wonderful season. And, yes, you can make an argument about everyone being robbed, including production, your grandma and a tree, I think it was mostly fair. Hell, even the 3-stars wouldn't affect much (aka the top 2 would still happen). And if they wanted Shea so much (not saying it was rigged in her favor), just make it 2-stars, I bet a lot less people would be mad about it (which makes these plot-twists even dumber). The lip sync for the crown tho, yikes. Just let it die already, I thought season 14 was going in that direction but nop! And as a side note, I'd argue that winners don't always equal the best track record, instead who had the best storyline goes more into account. Who was the true "protagonist" of the season tends to win. It just so happens that most of the time the person with the best track record has a good storyline. That's why people like Sasha, Yvie or Willow. They weren't the best track record-wise but are loved as winners. Sometimes the lip-sync for the crown CAN push a certain queen into the spotlight and then the crown but it'll cause more harm than good. This season being a prime example. (I didn't see a lot of people questioning Jinkx's win, just criticizing the finale, but I avoid interacting with the fandom beyond surface level so i might be wrong)
Its one of the best seasons in a while but it still has the reality tv drag race things that will honestly probably never change
“If you disagree with me, that’s cool… leave me alone!” Words to live by. You truly are fabulous and I always love your commentary and opinions.
They needed more stars, just generally. There weren't enough in the season for the queens hence why they had the "give a star" episode and the 3 star reward. What they should have done is lipsync winner blocks but loser gives away a star (this maybe swapped around as winning and being loved for giving a star might be a better story line). This would allow alliances to come into play more and make queens back each other or betray other queens.
@craigh5343
Жыл бұрын
and adding blocking element, is just pretty pathetic at this point. you're blocked. get over it, earn stars and build up. see who earns stars in honest way or in competitive way. platinum plunger is fun but it getting stale at this point.
I knew there would be issues as soon as the "lalaparuza" was announced. It forces so much more riggory because they have to manipulate the win instead of just letting it happen organically. Jinks won with Judy, for me, so I'm happy with the outcome but I understand why people get upset. What I don't understand is letting out ruin your whole day and death threats. It really is just a reality show at the end of the day. If you're going to blame anyone, blame production and ultimately WOW 🤷♀️
@ellamayothethird906
Жыл бұрын
yea blaming the queens is really unfair.
This season was like Game of Thrones. I was so hooked right up until the last two episodes where I'm like, this is not gonna work. The lip sync finale was really just lip service at the end, and super rushed and sus
THANK YOU!!! Someone is making sense! Like Jinx lost the lip sync there is no denying that. They made the lip sync such a big deal from the beginning that you had to make it to the end and win the lip sync. Then all of a sudden now it’s track record and the lip sync. If it’s gonna be track record then just say that from the beginning that’s all we’re sayings
@pawdaw
Жыл бұрын
But - I love that Jinkx didn't pull out stunts and tricks for her lip syncs - she stayed true to herself. There's power in that. I mean, she even let Monet have the front of the stage for Nicki Minaj's verse. Katy Perry - wtf - these queens deserve better. I was hoping for another spoken word lip sync, but no...
@aorelain
Жыл бұрын
Track record mattered always and Jinkx did amazing this season, many levels above everyone else. They should have done a videoclip or something and not make her win feel bad because she couldnt move her hips as good as Money on swish swish...
@kingke1th
Жыл бұрын
@@aorelain baby queens with the best track record lost their season like all stars 3,5&6 and more from the other seasons
@twoboysmom7423
Жыл бұрын
it was never all of a sudden that it was track record. RuPaul has never done anything other than track record.
The show has become so overproduced, it's madness. I thought it got better this season but in the variety show episode everything was clear. It was planned from the beginning that queens from older seasons win to reintroduce them to a newer audience. And those queens were of course Jinkx for the main win and Raja for the consolidation price. And the narrative for the finale was history repeating. Jinkx against the rest of the world. In season 5 it was Rolaskatox, now it was 3 All Stars winners. Through the 3 star twist and not giving Raja the challange win for this extraordinary performance in the variety show, she conveniently could compete for the 50.000$ price and won it of course. Drag Race should really stop this overproduction. The international spin offs are so much better (i mean those that are not hosted or heavily influenced by Rupaul, especially Drag Race Espana) as the competition develops much more naturally .
@anthonyL1995
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's to a point where they are trying too hard to make the international seasons important to the main franchise. We didn't see that with Top Model, American Idol vs the rest, or any of these other shows. I think really only Big Brother and Strictly/ Dancing With the Stars would really compare tbh but even so... I have no idea who won Australia or season three of UK (considering there were two seasons in the same year), or season 2 of Canada. I know who won season 13 but I really don't. I know Willow Pill won last season but even then I don't. I think season 12 was the end of an era (big argument it ended in season 9) and now we just wait to see when Ru retires and they do one or two seasons with either Bob, Alaska, or Bianca as the host before it gets canceled. The days of the best person winning are over with and queens over a certain age either don't apply/ get picked for the show anymore when a lot of them are more established than the social media girls that get picked now a days. You also have so many YT channels with reviews where you know the queens are more qualified than who is being judged as well.
1000% agree, and the 50k winner thing weirded me out from the jump. Coming 5th is now better than being in the finale. Effin odd.
@dagamaul
Жыл бұрын
I fell that this was made especially for Raja, and maybe decided on later on in the season. Because Raja seems to have been robbed of some stars and would have ended in the top 4 if she received them, and then would definitely not have won since Jinx was definitely winning.
Y'all remember when everyone claimed this was the best season ever ???!!!
@kabletelevision1559
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah 😭… people don’t know what they want 💀
@sadlian3190
Жыл бұрын
It had the best first half ever but like it just kinda went 📉📉 after the midway point, still probably one of the better all stars seasons though
@xviolaa
Жыл бұрын
Cus it was until the end when we realised the outcome was predetermined all along
@MysteriousPichu
Жыл бұрын
I still think it's the best all stars season
@sydney6119
Жыл бұрын
@@MysteriousPichu I think that As2 is the best, I really enjoyed As7 too, it's just about personal opinion
I think the pity stars in the middle weren’t inherently bad - sure, it was clear production wanted to keep everyone in the game and didn’t want anyone to pull ahead too far, but there was an element of strategy to them for the queens who handed them out. The problem imo is that the blocking mechanic was poorly conceptualized - “Block another queen from a star next week, except you don’t know what next week will be” is stupid. There needed to be some way for queens to make an informed decision about how they were blocking people and drag race didn’t give them one. Sure, you could always just block the front runner, but that’s how Jinkx ended up blocked for a design challenge. And I’m certain production did this deliberately - I don’t think that that episode would’ve been a design challenge if Jinkx hadn’t been blocked. The order of the challenges was set on the fly to accommodate/accentuate the blocks. The reason why Mario Party bullshit works for Mario Party is because you know it’s gonna happen. AS7 could’ve avoided that by making it clearer that these mechanics existed. Nobody gets to the end of a game of Mario and is surprised to see bonus stars handed out, it’s one of the staples of the franchise for the winner of a Mario Party game to be determined more by chance than skill. If Ru had told the queens - or even just the audience - what the rules were from the jump I think it would’ve been more enjoyable. A better blocking system would’ve given the queens the ability to rely on strategy rather than divination, and more openness about how stars will be handed out like the pity stars from the jump would’ve made it a lot less gimmicky. Last thing, I promise, but there needed to be more stars earned throughout the season. Allowing everyone to coalesce around 2-4 stars was pretty anticlimactic, and the show would’ve benefitted from stealing more mechanics from party games like Mario Party or Fuzion Frenzy. In those games, when you win a mini game, you don’t just get a W - you get scaling points based on performance. First place in FF gets 6 points, second gets 4, third gets 2, and fourth gets 0. *Especially* for a season where they’re not sending people home and relying *so heavily* on track record, something like this was necessary to reflect that there’s more than two successful queens every week. Let the top two performers still lip sync to block and get the cash, but offer a sliding scale - first place in a single challenge gets 7 stars, second place gets 5, third gets 3, fourth place gets 1, and everyone else gets none. Maybe even allow the lip sync to determine who gets 7 and who gets 5 stars. This gives the queens a *lot* more routes to the finale and makes the overall scoring look way, *way* more exciting because human beings are simple. Big numbers are dramatic to us even if they could be represented the same as a smaller number. In a normal season, 1 winner for a challenge and 2 losers who lip sync makes sense, bc that’s usually a pretty reasonable expectation in terms of average performance for a given challenge. In this season, the queens are all-winners, and so it’s expected that they’ll each have individual strengths and weaknesses but broadly will be all good contestants. A scoring system for this concept, therefore, needs to be a scoring system that doesn’t just measure if you were *good*, but how good you were relative to the other queens. It also means that queens aren’t being snubbed so much, and gives production a lot more wiggle room to keep a queen like Shea or Raja in the running when they were always good but the judges couldn’t justify giving them a top 2 position. I didn’t mean to write an essay, my bad lol. Point is that the format really could’ve been way, way better both for the viewers and the queens with just a few minor tweaks - give the queens more information so that they can act more strategically rather than just taking shots in the dark and allowing production to fill in the blanks, let everyone know in advance that mechanics like pity stars or extra-points rounds exist so they can prepare for them, and implement a better scoring system that does a better job of rewarding queens on a sliding scale that’s more conducive to dramatic twists and turns.
@dagamaul
Жыл бұрын
Honestly this is the best idea! Something similar was done on painted with Raven, where you got 3 points for winning, 2 points for being medium, and 1 for losing plus 1 person was getting blocked - that ended up with more well-rounded final 3 who were all good, and would have allowed Raja and Shea to get much closer to the top deservingly, instead of Shea having to be rescued with 3 stars. I mean, I still think Raja should have won 2 more challenges but that's a whole other story :D
Throw the lip sync for the final in the trash. IN THE TRASH
I love Jinkx Monsoon it’s so sad that her second win is over shadowed by this scandal I think lip sync for the crown should be retired. Edit: Season 5 was my first I heard that it was good along with season 6 so I watched them and I soon fall in love with the queens and I also fell in love with drag. I fell for Jinkx cause I relate to her and I also like her style I also love Bianca as well. Those two are my top two cause they are so inspiring to me since I love theatre and comedy. I felt so bad for Jinkx cause she absolutely deserves to win but unfortunately like what I said there is still a lip sync for the crown and when Jinkx is crowned a lot of people are mad and pissed off. It’s productions fault they established the lip sync for the crown and they shot themselves at the foot as the result please don’t blame Jinkx Monsoon she and along with the other winners are the victims of production.
When Raja came in wearing the laser dress, RuPaul gave her a standing ovation. Really wish they would have left that in.
This is some behind the scenes tea off of Reddit. The girls were going to do a rusical. It was actually supposed to be Moulin Ru, the one S14 did. Jinkx is a theater queen and they were gearing her up for another win until production saw the choreography and knew that most queens wouldn't get it. So they changed it to the "branding" challenge. Production always screwing themselves and the queens over.
ive always loved drag race, and ive always hated the lipsync for the crown - it worked once, maybe twice but i agree! the season 8 finale performances were so fun, and while i absolutely love sasha velour's moment, i hate that from then on it became 'whoever has the craziest reveal at the end wins'. basing it on who did better the entire time obviously makes the most sense and the appeal of the lipsyncs has totally gone down the the lipsync for the crown system
As a viewer, who until watching this video knew nothing about how the queens actually felt (according to their tweets) or anything behind the scenes, I immensely enjoyed this season. It’s my favorite All Stars season apart from All Stars 2. The way it was edited made it look as though the queens all had a great time and were excited to be there. It conveyed a very positive atmosphere, which I thought was a nice change of pace compared to regular seasons. These queens all know each other or have worked with each other so it made sense that the rapport seemed more convivial. It sucks to hear that this may not have been the case for the queens, who deserve the world. I do hate lip sync for the crown for the same reasons Kayla cites. Having the individual performances onstage is cool and I like that but not lip sync for the crown. I was rooting for Jinkx from the beginning (shocker) and came to love Raja more as the season went on (that was in part bc she’s fantastic and production highlighting her at the right times). So I’m pleased with the winners, but I agree that they didn’t win their lip syncs. I also didn’t care for how the talent show was worth three stars and thought if they really wanted it to have stakes, it could have been worth two stars. Then it would be a lot closer as to who would go to the finale.
@fightvale57
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know anything about any animosity at al. I love that there was no drama,everyone seemed loving and like they were having fun. I thought it was a great look to see the queer community commune,have ample time to show their best looks and show love to one another.
@MiuXiu
Жыл бұрын
Convivial.. that’s a new word for me! Thanks!
I still don’t understand why people invalidate performance queens who thrive during a lip sync so much. News flash, that’s MOST of a drag queens job. Maybe a lot of the fan base doesn’t actually attend drag shows, but they are not set up like drag race and the Queens keeping people coming to bars are not doing corny acting performances and a roast in most cases. It’s not the easiest thing to perform and hold an audiences attention by dancing your ass off or weaving in a cohesive storyline in 6 minutes or less. So let’s change this narrative that lip sync artists aren’t valid but fashion, comedy, etc. queens are.
@ladyreverie7027
Жыл бұрын
Idk I've been to drag performances and comedy especially riffing off the crowd is usually a big part of it. That's why Jinx, BendelaCreme, Trixie, Katya and Bianca all are very successful off drag race.
@WonderKingE
Жыл бұрын
@@ladyreverie7027 For sure, being able to host and talk to an audience is a skill all it's own. What I'm talking mostly about is that fact that most queens do not get a mic in order to talk to people. Alyssa, Shangela, Kennedy, and other performers like that come to mind with what I'm talking about. Yet people in the fan base more often say that the other Queens are more talented or more relevant which puts comedy over performance. People literally complain about lip sync heavy episodes, but it's not the lip syncing that should be the problem because that IS what drag is about in the real world. The problem should be that not every Queen can manage to do a lip sync well.
AS7 was mostly a great season but the way production handled the stars and the finale were definitely Not It
@1957DLT
Жыл бұрын
I agree, the downward trajectory started with the stars shenanigans. It immediately removed the fun and comradery. Lots of people have suggested the Mario Party concept instead, and that could very well have made for a more interesting hour. The finale, well, it is what it is and we all wish it had been different. Or better defined. Or something else entirely. I think that my repeat watch of this season, because I really loved it, will stop when the shenanigans start.
@subarashi263
Жыл бұрын
@@1957DLT I thought they should have done it with points, like 10 points if you win or sum shit, so they can rig it better with numbers, but definitely the lipsynch bs is what turn me off so much from what I would call a wonderful season
I think the biggest problem also stems from the fans making it seem like Jinkx was this unstoppable force of nature even when she just did okay sometimes. And then you have Monet, who fans aren't all that fond of, doing pretty well overall. So when the lipsync for the crown happens and the one fans aren't quite rooting for clearly blows the frontrunner out of the water only to get paid dust in the end, it kinda feels extremely disappointing overall and just made it seem like no one genuinely had a chance to win, so I get why people are rightfully upset
@Gore-geous
Жыл бұрын
@Jordan Wing I truly think that by editing out a lot of critiques this season people kinda assumed there were no top spots, but that wasn't the case. Watching the show, I'd say there were a few queens who were at least on par with Jinkx the whole season: Monet, Trinity, Jaida, and Raja for example
@Gore-geous
Жыл бұрын
@Jordan Wing agreed. I think it was just production putting all their eggs in one basket. Don't get me wrong, Jinkx statistically deserved the win, but it just all kinda felt...a little whelmed near the end, idk. Especially with how choppy it looked, it just felt they weren't expecting Shea, Monet, and even Trinity to go all out and panicked trying to make it look fairer than what it probably was irl
@stephanieviola2632
Жыл бұрын
This is the correct comment.
I think that production messed up slightly with casting here. Looking at the cast it’s clear that jinkx is the funniest and will win almost every comedy challenge or comedy adjacent challenge (5/6). Production knew this yet chose to cast jinkx with little competition in this area, the Vivienne and raja proved to be strong competition for the top spots but there was no one there truly on jinkx’s level of comedy as this can only be matched by very few queens ( of the winners arguably only bob Alaska and bianca). All of the winners on this season have won comedy challenges in the past but against jinkx they truly stood little chance. This would be okay if the split of challenges was more even however there was only 3/4 performance challenges and 2 look challenges. This meant the rest of the cast was left fighting over the few remaining stars in their expertises. This provided the worst outcome for all-rounder type queens like shea and yvie who won their seasons through consistently doing well in challenges but in a season where certain queens will dominate a category ( jinkx is gonna be the funniest, jaida and trinity will make the best looks, Monet will dance you under the table and write a killer verse doing it) they were left struggling to break through. These queens are great and worked great together, but the balance between the skills of the queens and the challenges was all wrong.
@neonoires
Жыл бұрын
Not arguing with you but this just kind of makes me have to ask what exactly Drag Race is looking for? Drag today is not all about comedy which is reflected in the other queens. Yes, making Ru laugh is important but there have been tons of Drag Race winners who aren’t comedy queens. I think this highlights my issues I have throughout watching seasons because it seems like what the judges want varies all the time and it’s frustrating to watch.
@davidkonevky7372
11 ай бұрын
Bob would have been so iconic in this season
I found your channel recently and I have to say I’m so impressed with how you balance your very serious takes and your dry humor. Great video!
I was honestly terrified that the winner would be decided via lip sync. Knowing full well that Jinkx was the queen of queens, to crown anyone else would have been unfair. When Rupaul said the winner will be decided by the outcome of the lip sync AND their work all season, I nearly cried, because at that moment I finally knew Jinkx would win. Until then I’d spent the whole episode dreading her inevitable default. The lip sync battles are a terrible way to decide things.
Do we think if the spoken monologues and remixes were added to Lip Sync would that “change up” and let producers produce the show more ?
@harleybaker4684
Жыл бұрын
Honestly if all 3 finale lip syncs were monologues, it would have been CHEFS KISS.
I’m so happy you pointed out that the winner of the losers gets more money than the runner up of the actual top four I thought that was sooo weird lmao
@Cashcash08
Жыл бұрын
How much did the top 4 get?
@marilynnn
Жыл бұрын
@@Cashcash08 I think they only got the money they won from winning lip syncs if they won challenges
@Cashcash08
Жыл бұрын
@@marilynnn ooooof
I liked all of the queens, and I thought Jinx did an amazing job throughout the entire season. The final lip sync was good, but I’m not going to get all excited and claim “winner” over queens copying some other artist’s choreography from a video or dance performance. I still think the correct winner was chosen. Jinx was a standout all season, and in the final lipsyncs, she chose to do her own thing rather than a pop star’s dance moves. She earned the crown.
@brentbentKRFP
Жыл бұрын
I had never seen the video for Judas so I had no idea Shae's dancing, which seemed out of place to me, was actually her recreating the choreography from the video. I think Thorgy or Bob on Pit Stop said it best, that that dance works much better when you have a crew of dancers behind you doing the same dance but solo it looked weird to anybody, like me, who didn't know she was recreating the choreo.
@nikeaddict55
Жыл бұрын
I'll agree except for the finale. That was heavily edited to the point that pretty much everyone is saying that Monet put in arguably her best performance ever. The meddling by production has finally reached a tipping point
Raja not having a crown makes me feel like they added the she already done has hers competition seem so last min. I do agree that Jinkx winning is valid but if we’re going off of lip-synch for the crown Monet beat her.
@delindasimpsonjohnson759
Жыл бұрын
I agree Monet beat Jinxx hands down although Jinxx won all Queens of Queens, all the other ladies was just as if not good as Jinxx, I honestly think Monex X change should have won. But at the end of the day, Rupaul knew who he was going to pick and that was Jinxx, so she won and all the other Queens should not feel as if they lost. Having a coveted crown is not all that, Monet Did opera, no gimmicks in her performance. I felt some type of way when Rupaul gave it to Jinxx. What person has ever done opera and it sounded so darn perfect. None and I get it why Jinxx won because of her multi talent. And how she can change it up and make it seem fresh and relevant Evvie Oddly loved her and come on Raja is just stellar in her design. And Trinity the tuck can really put an outfit together like no tomorrow, and let's not forget SheaCoulee, magnificant designer, and Jaida and Viviene were stunning, but Jinxx could not design or sei. But she was able to keep her dresses looking nice.
Am I the only one who thinks Jinkx is actually a good lipsyncer? We'd seen her lipsync a grand total of *twice* before this season and kill one (against Detox) and do pretty strong in the other (The Beginning). Sure, she doesn't dance or pull stunts and her camp approach doesn't work for everything (see: Kings and Queens - where she was still better than Trinity just... doing what we've seen Trinity do a million times), but you can tell when she feels and acts a song and I'd rather watch that than expressionless dancing. I think the Judas lipsync is a perfect example and I also think she did well in Swish Swish, well enough to justify a win. Monet was fantastic and sure we can infer that editing may have made out Monet to not be as good but Jinkx was still good.
@livingsmile8576
Жыл бұрын
thanks for saying that... i dont know why everyone think jinks isnt a good lip synker. she approach the songs and makes it on her own. where shea and monet wehre ofcourse good but they only danced for the song and doing coreo. where jinkx makes it hers and adopts it hers.
@sibvids9210
Жыл бұрын
Fully agree. I get more emotional watching Jinkx cause I think she connects with the song more emotionally. I don't need stunts (even though they're fun), but I do want a lip sync to have an arc and to connect. Sasha Velour does that very well, that's why I hate the "it was a stunt excuse" for the roses - it was a strategic way to up the emotion in the song.
The fans wanted Jinx & Raja to win, and they did. We knew they would win as soon as the season started. Why is everyone looking so shocked?
@kevinojeda5788
Жыл бұрын
It's because the lip sync for the crown format. Monet destroyed Jinkx wich makes her win feel...not satisfactory. And Yvie was amazing in that lip sync having one of the most amazing wig reveals ever
@arturintete2461
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinojeda5788 eeeexactly. The writers have over complicated and overproduced the show. They wrote themselves into a corner where something always feels unsatisfactory.
@skyco5395
Жыл бұрын
because it wasn't satisfactory. it felt like jinkx didn't fight in the finale for the win. and everyone else did. same w raja. yvie destroyed her
@bahalevi5441
Жыл бұрын
im happy that jinx won. she deserved it.
@krockedteeth
Жыл бұрын
I really liked viv
Also, for the talent show they should have - "because you are all winners" - imposed a rule that the talent shown could not be (only) a lipsync. Yes, some of the queens may have struggled then, but at least it we would have seen more diverse talents than 'just' doing a lipsync of one of their own songs.
So happy for jinx!!! She deserved to win✨✨✨
@greynotchristian
Жыл бұрын
not really
@guyritchie7504
Жыл бұрын
@@greynotchristian She was the clear overall winner.
@greynotchristian
Жыл бұрын
@@guyritchie7504 i didn't see that at all
@guyritchie7504
Жыл бұрын
@@greynotchristian Fortunately we are all allowed to have our own opinions.
I don't agree with Jinx not being good at lipsyncing, she really surprised me this season. That said she didn't win in the lipsync for the crown.
@marcusmelancon3426
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t mind her Judas performance but she didn’t beat Shea or Monet and it sucks because Jinkx slayed and was the only real option to win
@princessfaust
Жыл бұрын
@@marcusmelancon3426 she did beat shea, and the lipsync with monet was to fucking swish swish bish so who cares
@davidkonevky7372
11 ай бұрын
@@marcusmelancon3426I think she def beat shea in the lipsync but Monet? That girl turnt it in the stage while jinx seemed kind of confused lol
I love the way you edit and comment your videos, great job :)
thank you queen, i was bored at episode 4, it was nice to hear what happened
Nah, you lost me when you started questioning Sasha deserving her crown. If we wanna discuss who had the most challenge wins, then we should perhaps question whether those wins are justified or are the wins going to the production favourite. It was evident that Shea was the production's darling throughout Season 9. The excitement of the lip sync for the crown is that Sasha's performance defied how production probably originally would have been able to create the show and the ultimate winner. It was an episode where the best drag artist won...
@davidkonevky7372
11 ай бұрын
Yeah Shea may have been the best in terms of points and technicaliyies. But in terms of artistry Sasha has made so much more impact culturally and her defiance towards the status quo is what made her win
I think the most weird thing was that challenge giving 3 stars, that was a total bad idea. Monet wins the lipsync, Jinkx ate the season, whatever who win was a good winner, but i dont know how the people ignore what rupaul says for choose the winner.
I so wanted to talk about DR with someone anyone I don’t care who, I left a couple comments here 3 days ago and nothing! I’m sad AF now. I am brand new to your channel and I love your sense of humor. I very instantly subscribed. Now I really need you to talk to me. I have no one in my world who watches it therefore I have no one to dish about it with. FYI.. I absolutely LOVED this season the most out of every DR regular or All Star. I love how every single queen got along beautifully and zero backstabbing or behind the back trash talk. I love how every single critique was positive for all of them. It was such a joy to watch!
I actually think Jinkx won the lip sync against Shea which seems impossible. But she definitely didn't win the final against Monet. But yeah I agree with your analysis. I was actually kind of shocked when Jinkx won since they were lip syncing for the crown, especially since she's been the favourite all season. I'm glad though. I really love her. And I really did love this season.
@guggihstar
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Jynkx looked like Judas himself, main artist on stage, feelings. Shea was just doing the choreography. Even I can do that (literally, that's the only routine I know 100%). No hate on them, love Shea since S9.
@richardsonIII
Жыл бұрын
@@guggihstar Oh yeah I love Shea! And I was really surprised when Jinkx won that lip sync! She did great- I was screaming on the treadmill! lol
@skyco5395
Жыл бұрын
no,, shea won rightfully. but it wouldve been a travesty to send jinkx home without even being in the finale
I will maintain that possibly the only Drag Race Queen who could come close to beating Jinkx for a Queen of All Queens title, based on Skill At Drag Race and just overall fan support would be Bob The Drag Queen. (also arguably Ben who beats Jinkx out at design skills and maaaaaayyyyybe Alaska but I feel like that last one may be a stretch)
@michaelkoutros2516
Жыл бұрын
I think we could add in bianca aswell, I think she's one of the only queens who could rival Jinkx in most comedy challenges, along with her being a seamstress.
i love all of ur videos i rush to play them as soon as i see u upload thnk u
This break down was the best START OF MY WEEK !! Thank u!!!! 😂😘
im not mad with the results of the finale, in fact, im loving jinkx and raja's victory!!! =D but yeah, the awarding of the 3 stars was just dog doodoo
I actually think this was the BEST season of Drag Race ever made! It was a beautiful tribute to some of the most talented Queens on this planet 😍🙌🏼
god every time I watch one of your videos (esp your drag race videos) you're on point with just every single goddamn thing you say. constantly taking the words out of my mouth, but better-put than I ever could. this is 14.5 minutes of nothing but facts
God bless you, Kayla. How would we understand the world without you?
Roger made me very proud. I've been in love since season 3.
I feel like if they were gonna do the two separate crownings anyway, lip sync tournament for the bottom 4 woulda still been fun for that 50k, and then they coulda done individual performances for the top 4 and picked the winner based on track record alone. Woulda cleaned that up a lot.
Dam… This is one of your best. Bravo! 👏
I enjoyed watching your video. It was concise and I agree with the majority of what you spoke on. Thank you for the video.
I think they changed the edit to "only positive" after UK vs. the world pangina elimination. people stoped watching there so they thought "Ho so you want only positive drag race? we can do it. give us another Emmy, thank you"
Ironically and somewhat hilariously, the problem with this finale was the same problem as as4 with monet and trinity, in that one finalist did better throughout the competition but then clearly lost the lip sync. In this finale they knew they couldn't do again what they did in as4 and have a tie so they clearly just bit the bullet and gave it to the track record winner (which I think they ought to have also done for as4 but that's just me).
@0927kira
Жыл бұрын
Monet had a good run in AS4 though? aside from her talent show performance she had many highlights too
@michaelkoutros2516
Жыл бұрын
@@0927kira not discrediting Monet but if they strictly followed track record Trinity did better meaning she "would've won". i think thats what they were referring to
Excellent breakdown, with some very fair critiques of the show’s structure without invalidating anyone’s wins. You do a great job of balancing the many needles everyone (production, queens, etc.) is trying to thread here. Thanks for the video!
I watched the season as it aired and just now found out people were mad about it lmao Jinkx is queen of queens I don’t think I could’ve loved the season more
because this fandom will never be satisfied with any outcome. there i did it in a sentence
Wow you literally just spat out a tsunami of non stop facts for 14 minutes and 39 seconds and I drowned in how literally every single thing you sound was CORRECT. SUBBED
I loved this season - It just makes me so happy
This is hit the nail on the head in every way. I love both monet and jinkx. Not gonna lie I was excited for the lipsync for the crown moment solely because it gave a fair chance for monet to win. We’ve seen it so many times where the last lipsync completely throws negates a season. N we as fans are a little salty it didn’t benefit this time around. Every time a finale comes around the debate of lipsync vs track record comes up and people conveniently switch sides for their faves. It would’ve been smarter had they made a lipsync challenge midway in the competition and that winner from that got multiple stars
Honestly, they should’ve done an “old school” coronation for the top 4, the SAHDH or whatever gave enough lip syncs for one episode. If they really wanted to give Raja the extra money (bc Yvie won that lip sync let’s be honest), they could’ve made it a ball challenge or smth instead, which could fill up the episode nicely.
THANK YOU FINALLY! ever since season 9 I've been praying for the solo performances to come back, they were so much better, more entertaining, memorable( I sing I don't like to show off to this day) and mostly, NOT A FRIGGIN RUVEAL BATTLE (dare I mention ~asia~)
I didn’t know people were mad but interesting and I love the video. I definitely agree that the lip syncs for the crown are getting repetitive/ out of hand, everything. I didn’t think about it till you’re video but yes, I would have enjoyed individual lip sync performances especially knowing Jinx would have done something much more up her alley. Though still love the outcome of the season! Didn’t super love Jinx in season 5 but I feel like most all stars seasons there’s just such a redemption quality to some of the queens and though she may have been most everyone’s favorite going in, she’s definitely one of my favorites now too.
trinity did so good this season, im so proud of her! she was definitely up there as "MOST ENTERTAINING" along with Jinx for me! she also brought it to every runway as well 😭💘
@myicyheart
Жыл бұрын
If they were judging the lip syncs fairly in the finale, I think Trinity would have won the whole thing because she beat Monet in my book (Monet was very low energy that lip sync) and then she woulda lipsynced Swish Swish against Jinkx...which I think Trinity would prob beat Jinkx.
@davidkonevky7372
11 ай бұрын
I gagged when I saw her red dress, if you told me that dress was sewn on the show I would have called bs
@shadowm2k7
11 ай бұрын
@@davidkonevky7372 omg yes!!!!
So many languages in this world and you choose to speak the language of truth
I need more content ! Just found your page and watched more videos then I’d like to admit 🤦🏼♀️
Jinkx is the most talented and the best Queen in Ru Paul Drag Race...she is extraordinary beyond measures.
I hope they get rid of the lsftc asap, it would honestly be so much more beneficial for everyone, from production, to the planned winners, and would create a slightly less polarized fanbase
I'm actually shocked that people are pissed off over the finale. The judges made it clear they were taking into account the queen's overall performance in the competition. And honestly, that's how it should be. Why should one lip sync supersede everything that comes before it. Wouldn't it make the competition feel all the more pointless if a queen could win five challenges, dominate the entire competition, and not get the crown because of one singular lip sync? in this case, the fans are totally in the wrong, and it's really the show's fault for fostering this kind of sentiment, after creating such a flawed finale format.
@cremesiccle
Жыл бұрын
"Why should one lip sync supersede everything that comes before it." because thats LITERALLY what theyve been telling us would happen the entire season?
@subarashi263
Жыл бұрын
I have to add I'm a little bitter, I love Jinkx, I wanted Monet to win, but the thing is, them cutting out most of Monet's parts of the last lipsynch, was annoying. I'm happy Jinkx won, she deserves it, but don't shove into my throat that it is a "lipsynch for the crown" and then cut most of whoever is against Jinkx, to show clearly who's gonna win. That's mad annoying bruh
@subarashi263
Жыл бұрын
@@cremesiccle For real. And like I ain't even that mad that Shea got 3 stars in one sitting, cause I genuinely like the top 4 we got, but this lipsynch lalaparuza for the crown is long dead to me.
@dav4811
Жыл бұрын
You act like Monét had flopped the entire competition. She was in the top for 7 out of 11 challenges. Talk about consistently in the top. Jinkx has only 5 top positions (which are all her wins: production pushed her by giving wins whenever she COULD get wins). Monét beat her across the whole competition, AND in the lipsync. That's 2/2 categories... Monét was robbed.
@w3edyareyare
Жыл бұрын
@@dav4811 i dont get this because everyone agrees jinkx shouldve won the episodes she won, and in all honesty she was top for atleast 7 episodes with her 5 wins because the only challenges she didnt slay are the 2 design challenges so this isn’t adding up
Perfect video. I love your humor 🤍
I was skepitical on viewing this, but Guuuuuuuuuuuuurl, you hit the nail on the head! My thoughts exactly.
agreed agreed agreed! Jinx was so strong all season and having a lip sync is just the wrong way to end it. a lip sync has too much power to turn the tides which can sometimes be fun in regular episodes (I'd say sometimes being good at lipsyncing is a little TOO powerful i.e. Jorgeous in season 14 who is gorgeous and beautiful but wasnt as well rounded imo) but not within a finale.
Wait people are mad? The finale played out EXACTLY how I wanted except I would have given the crown to Monet over Jinkx, but I ain’t mad still because Jinkx killed the competition and she was my close second Also Raja got 50k so that made me so happy
@ellamayothethird906
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Yea I agree, it was just the weird editing with the final lip sync.
I am so angry the algorithm has kept me from you till now. This video is chef’s kiss. Abolish the lip sync for the crown!
youre so real, love u
To the people arguing that not "not everyone is mad" at this finale, just install the like/dislike extension and check the VH1 upload of the final lipsync. It has the highest dislike ratio of any lip sync this season even beating out the objectively horrible Kings and Queens one. This is a pretty clear metric that this finale was indeed controversial, which is wild considering that Jinkx was the favorite to win when the cast was announced and pretty much remained the favorite during the entire season.
I am getting into this way too much. It's just a show but. It's something that annoyed me since UK.v.The World. I agree with what you're saying, and I'm also going to point to UK vs The World, where Pangina was voting based on track record (week by week) and she got so much hate like she was causing drama. So yeah, the fact that people don't agree with this win, because Drag Race spent years telling its audience that no matter how well you did, it comes down to a lip sync - makes total sense to me. Drag Race put into play that track record didn't matter. If they had kept the importance of track record throughout all of the seasons maybe we wouldn't have the issuesthey are having now. Jinkx (I love her so much, she is one my favourite Queens from the show) lost that Lip sync. Drag Race drummed into us that that last lip sync determined who won. I'm glad that she won yes, but Drag Race set up this rule and didn't follow it. This bit them in the ass, just as the vote bit them in the ass in UK vs the World.
I agree with you, and I LOVE your commentary style
LOVE YOUR EVEN OBJECTIVE CRITIC
Jinkx definitely didn't win the lipsync smackdown (I think she dominated Shea in Judas but Monet did do better in Swish Swish) but it wasn't so much of a blowout to where it made up for the lead Jinkx had the entire season, Monet failed in several challenges she was the worst in both the Draguation Speeches and Fairytale Justice, she was at the bottom for both design challenges, literally the only challenges she really succeeded in were verse/dancing challenges. Lipsyncing isn't the only skill a drag queen has and isn't the decision maker on who should win the entire season, the lipsync for the crown being the finale was dumb to begin with and specifically the fact that they chose all songs that were outside of the frontrunners performance style/comfort zone was a mistake by production. Jinkx just slayed the season too hard for anyone else to win, she won before this episode even aired it was just filler to get us to that point
@troythompson7937
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@@atdrago8347 I agree with every single one of Jinkx's wins, people want to say production held back other queens from winning but then list challenges like Draguation Speeches or the viral dance challenge as ones other queens should have won and I disagree, I agree with the judges that Jinkx had the standout performances in those episodes and deserved her top 2 spot plus I thought there were even more she could have been high/won like episode 1, the Christmas acting challenge, and the talent show so in my eyes she did absolutely slay it, not rigged by production
Should have just removed the lipsync for the crown format. Just do musical chairs or something. Or like do something like what Season 14 did. (And maybe give the runner-up some cash too considering this is the All Winners season???????)
HAHAHAHAHAH this video was fantastic! I’m sticking around 🥰🥰🥰
Dearie, you are right about everything💜💜💜💜
What’s going to suck is the fact that we get at least 2 more lip sync for crown. Unless production changes things for the finale of season 15 but I doubt that. It’s time for a retooling if the finale for both all stars and regular season.
Not mad here, I knew they were going to mess with the star system as they saw fit. If things had played out differently in any episode, they would have given away more stars as needed to balance things out.
This is my first time watching and won’t be my last, that ending line “if you don’t agree with me cool leave me alone, bye” that’s the vibe
RuPaul says it allllll the time "if you can't love yourself how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else" which is the easiest way to describe alot of the fandom. People are NEVER happy with anything cause they hate themselves. There you have it, short and to the point.
I just wanted to say you did an amazing job with this commentary. The last part about Raja getting more money than the runner-up (Monet) of the actual final challenge is truly shitty. Well done. Thank you for this and keep up the amazing work.
The only ones mad are the childish fans