The Iliad by Homer: Book 2: The Chorus of Achaean Formations + Commentary (Audiobook w/ music & sfx)
Жүктеу.....
Пікірлер: 72
@brainwashalpha5495 Жыл бұрын
I love you george in a platonic way of course , this is an unexpected but surprisingly wholesome and most welcome departure from video game essays not to say that you weren't an excellent critic. i love the way your read between the lines and sort of mix your own interpretations your so awesome. i can feel the excitement in this reading! this is so soulful i could cry tears of happiness lmfao
@Evilanious
Жыл бұрын
Platonic as in Plato's Symposium?
@Birmanncat
Жыл бұрын
You don't need anything for a platonic love. For everything else -- there is Adam&Eve.
@brainwashalpha5495
Жыл бұрын
@@Birmanncat right on lol
@NDragon89 Жыл бұрын
Hat off to you, George! Only real men of culture don't skip the Catalogue of Ships. You really are determined to read the whole poem... We're in for a ride!
@dearcrowns Жыл бұрын
I remember years back on your old podcast when you first mentioned falling down a classical antiquity rabbit hole and it's both surprising and endearing to see that this not only persisted but culminated in a project like this. I appreciate the opportunity to experience this work for the first time courtesy of your efforts!
@lipsontajgordongrunk4328 Жыл бұрын
As someone who largely consumes books through Audible, I gotta say I wish there were more audio books like this.
@harris2898 Жыл бұрын
As a native greek I never really enjoyed Homer or the ancient tragedies (αρχαίες τραγωδίες) because of how awfully they were presented to us as kids in school. As I grew older i rediscovered my own cultural heritage mainly through media such as this one and by mainly foreign enthusiasts of the ancient "greek" culture such as yourself. For that i feel very grateful.
@DJ5un Жыл бұрын
I am adoring these voices and speech patterns for these characters, especially how Odysseus seems to be speaking as an outsider from this more poetic setting
@RFieth Жыл бұрын
It's an amazing coincidence that these two episodes released just in time for both ways of my train trip.
@Wriste13 Жыл бұрын
I will say, I love the Catalogue of Ships in the Iliad. It is long and tedious, but listening to it is surprisingly pleasant, and there are great nuggets in it as written: for instance, Agamemnon talks a lot of hot shit in Book 1 and even a bit in Book 2, if I recall. But after hearing the number of ships from each place, and then hearing Agamemnon's hundred black ships dwarfing the numbers of almost every other king and commander, his shit-talking carries more weight. My other favorite part is, after how long the Achaeans' section it, we are given a comparatively TINY section dedicated to the Trojans and their heroes, showing us how numerically fucked they are, which is perfect for setting up the drama of how the tables turn, and what the turning of those tables mean to the Trojans, both letting us feel the incredible relief of finding victory against overwhelming odds, and the tragedy of having it taken away later in the story. Love that this is happening though, looking forward to the rest.
@risingbob5230
Жыл бұрын
Nestor bringing 90 ships is also pretty impressive. One more reason people listen too and respect him even though he's too old to fight and can't do anything beyond giving advice.
@ThumbSipper Жыл бұрын
Damn, I remember reading this a bunch of times, a decade or so ago, and being bored shitless by the unending ship lists but I hardly ever felt it this time. Goes to show how much some good narration helps with a story like this, thanks for doing this 👍
@halifaxsteppenwulf7980 Жыл бұрын
George this is phenomenal and each book is better than the last it seems. I really appreciate the breakdown at the end. I've read the Illiad and the Odyssey multiple times and I know some of the context, but I've never had deep dive - yet digestible - context provided like this.
@MrBjanders Жыл бұрын
With the crazy production value I thought these would be wayyy farther apart, this is awesome!
@FrMZTsarmiral Жыл бұрын
I've never been too much into audiobooks due to acute hearing loss issues but this was an absolute treat. Absolutely stellar job.
@risingbob5230 Жыл бұрын
Reading through The Catalogue of Ships is rather rough but hearing it like this was awesome.
@roronoapedro3 ай бұрын
I'm truly obsessed with that description of the irony of Agamemnon's lie, spectacular stuff.
@zergvenegas Жыл бұрын
❌: We outnumber them at least ten to one. ✅: We outnumber them so much that if we divide in groups of ten, and every group captures one trojan to serve them wine, many of the groups would lack a wine pourer
@randombencounter263 Жыл бұрын
I love your interpretation of Odysseus. He has that old timey Hollywood Simple Country Lawyer energy.
@sonny19931 Жыл бұрын
I've followed your work since the first "critical close ups" (10 year ago???) and this is probably my favourite thing you've produced. Astounding quality, I know it's not as mainstream a topic as video games but I really hope you have great success with this series
@FaelumbreProject Жыл бұрын
52:00 so "I clapped when I saw that cameo" is timeless, huh
@LHudson Жыл бұрын
Question is....you adapting all 24 books?
@Pak_Industrial Жыл бұрын
Honestly if George just wanted to start doing audio books I'd be down.
@SuperGroat Жыл бұрын
If one of your goals with posting this on your channel was making some random nerds uninterested in this text give it a try, you've succeeded. Your work on this is so impressive
@helixier6629 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you let your average metal gear enthusiast play assassins creed odyssey
@luizpaulo45 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard working putting this here, i am really liking listening. i need to admit thought when i heard without looking on the screen the part "So he spoke, and a great roar erupted among the Argives" I thought Argives was Ehrgeiz, that game.
@mtathos_ Жыл бұрын
The best narration is when it can make you feel as if someone of that time was talking to you, the atmosphere and tone fulfills that very well. Cheers!
@scottleneau6221 Жыл бұрын
I love your version of the Iliad. There's no friction at all to enjoying the story, and it's actually kind of a banger.
@Sushiemoji Жыл бұрын
I’m hooked can’t wait for ep 3
@JBuntingisinyourcloset Жыл бұрын
I really like this interpretation of Odysseus. It makes the epithet "silver-tongued" make more sense to modern ears.
@jefffrederick258 Жыл бұрын
So Agamemnon is basically Richard Nickson from Futurama X) That dude gets around, no matter the age or time.
@luisguillermojg Жыл бұрын
Really liked how you did Odysseus here. Good everyman quality with dashes of a Coen Bros./Simpsons doofus. Good cover for his wit and cunning.
@Unexpectedstuff Жыл бұрын
So Patreon Patrons list is basically this channel’s Catalog of ships
@chasetheend Жыл бұрын
I've waited a long time for a new update. Looking forward to seeing what George has in store with this one!
@Mattznick Жыл бұрын
I never know what i'm gonna get from this channel and it's always something amazing
@ArtsyFoxo Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fantastic!!
@EnconXV Жыл бұрын
People say this content is unexpected from you but having watched your latest videos I think it's fairly noticeable how you've wanted to do steer your channel into a new direction for a while now. Best of lucks.
@Lokarsh21 Жыл бұрын
This is very educational as well as entertaining! I hope you'll look into other myths after it... Arthurian would be nice
@legofanguyvid Жыл бұрын
Thank You is all I can say, Thank you
@negatronnortagen8037 Жыл бұрын
Great job George!
@kylevance5049 Жыл бұрын
"The god's are no longer divided in council. Hera's convinced them ... of her will" Not sure exactly how to read this change Agamemnon makes to the dream (did he forget? Doesn't like spouses?), but it gave me a good chuckle.
@distortedguitarist81 Жыл бұрын
You know it's interesting hearing you compare between Hesiod and Homer. Maybe it was just the translation I read but I remember theogony having a ton of personality, particularly of hesiod himself and it was a great read. Obviously not to the scale of Homer's works but that wasn't the point Regardless, loving the commentaries. Learning some things we didn't even cover in my university classics courses!
@KristofDE Жыл бұрын
Hey, George - if you'd like to check out a tabletop RPG that should be right up your alley given your current vibe, see AGON by John Harper and Sean Nittner. Might empower you to play through your very own Odyssey... :)
@Olorin486 Жыл бұрын
oh fuck part 2 already? hell yeah
@SciFriTV Жыл бұрын
They made us read The Odyssey back in school, and despite being pretty into history I failed to find it interesting. However I've excitedly been listening to this thus far! I think it's so cool of you to dive full force into the things you're passionate about despite it not being stricly "in your wheelhouse", it's really inspiring from a creative standpoint. Keep it up, man 👍
@IZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR Жыл бұрын
Nice
@wimbusbert1249 Жыл бұрын
"Hera has convinced them in her way most spousel" Lol
@FemtoTheGreat Жыл бұрын
This is pure gold, George. Looking forward to the next episode. I am sure you already have, but if you haven't, please do check Simone Weil's "The Iliad or the Poem of Force". It is right up your alley.
@DrPie0licious Жыл бұрын
This is tight
@Ezikyl96 Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying this. Good work!
@fhjunior6183 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid
@cammantialive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, it’s great stuff.
@gokce9521 Жыл бұрын
cool story bro
@WarLore Жыл бұрын
I’m really confused and I love it
@filippo2806 Жыл бұрын
What Is the meaning in the party when Nestor suggests to Agamemnon to use the troops in a new formation made by "fulai" and "fratriai" (these are the greek Words but i wrote them in western alphabet)??
@AxeTangent Жыл бұрын
Yes yes
@Infected_Apple Жыл бұрын
25:00 the ships
@bartz0rt928 Жыл бұрын
Funny that Homer so wants to stress that it's a big army that he dedicates several elaborate comparisons to it. Lots of dudes, we get it.
@ZachCG Жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU GEORGE ❤
@ttamecco Жыл бұрын
book 2 down!
@SexiTRfan Жыл бұрын
I only know of "The Illiad" because of Lara Croft, in Tomb Raider Anniversary. Specifically, during the mansion level where you try to find little secrets here and there. It's a book. I guess her father was huge into history and was an explorer.
@Inferryu
Жыл бұрын
Being an anthropologist and an archaeologist, her father was indeed an explorer and huge into history
@ARIXANDRE Жыл бұрын
George, are you okay? Just checking If you got your infinite ammo bandanna while you read.
@lr1594 Жыл бұрын
Who is the translator?
@zyrkugilgamesh Жыл бұрын
Let's goooo
@bobpettersson5422 Жыл бұрын
1st
@SuicidalChocolateSK Жыл бұрын
bruh
@mrzoozilla971 Жыл бұрын
First
@mrzoozilla971
Жыл бұрын
When was the last time you saw a first comment, huh?
Пікірлер: 72
I love you george in a platonic way of course , this is an unexpected but surprisingly wholesome and most welcome departure from video game essays not to say that you weren't an excellent critic. i love the way your read between the lines and sort of mix your own interpretations your so awesome. i can feel the excitement in this reading! this is so soulful i could cry tears of happiness lmfao
@Evilanious
Жыл бұрын
Platonic as in Plato's Symposium?
@Birmanncat
Жыл бұрын
You don't need anything for a platonic love. For everything else -- there is Adam&Eve.
@brainwashalpha5495
Жыл бұрын
@@Birmanncat right on lol
Hat off to you, George! Only real men of culture don't skip the Catalogue of Ships. You really are determined to read the whole poem... We're in for a ride!
I remember years back on your old podcast when you first mentioned falling down a classical antiquity rabbit hole and it's both surprising and endearing to see that this not only persisted but culminated in a project like this. I appreciate the opportunity to experience this work for the first time courtesy of your efforts!
As someone who largely consumes books through Audible, I gotta say I wish there were more audio books like this.
As a native greek I never really enjoyed Homer or the ancient tragedies (αρχαίες τραγωδίες) because of how awfully they were presented to us as kids in school. As I grew older i rediscovered my own cultural heritage mainly through media such as this one and by mainly foreign enthusiasts of the ancient "greek" culture such as yourself. For that i feel very grateful.
I am adoring these voices and speech patterns for these characters, especially how Odysseus seems to be speaking as an outsider from this more poetic setting
It's an amazing coincidence that these two episodes released just in time for both ways of my train trip.
I will say, I love the Catalogue of Ships in the Iliad. It is long and tedious, but listening to it is surprisingly pleasant, and there are great nuggets in it as written: for instance, Agamemnon talks a lot of hot shit in Book 1 and even a bit in Book 2, if I recall. But after hearing the number of ships from each place, and then hearing Agamemnon's hundred black ships dwarfing the numbers of almost every other king and commander, his shit-talking carries more weight. My other favorite part is, after how long the Achaeans' section it, we are given a comparatively TINY section dedicated to the Trojans and their heroes, showing us how numerically fucked they are, which is perfect for setting up the drama of how the tables turn, and what the turning of those tables mean to the Trojans, both letting us feel the incredible relief of finding victory against overwhelming odds, and the tragedy of having it taken away later in the story. Love that this is happening though, looking forward to the rest.
@risingbob5230
Жыл бұрын
Nestor bringing 90 ships is also pretty impressive. One more reason people listen too and respect him even though he's too old to fight and can't do anything beyond giving advice.
Damn, I remember reading this a bunch of times, a decade or so ago, and being bored shitless by the unending ship lists but I hardly ever felt it this time. Goes to show how much some good narration helps with a story like this, thanks for doing this 👍
George this is phenomenal and each book is better than the last it seems. I really appreciate the breakdown at the end. I've read the Illiad and the Odyssey multiple times and I know some of the context, but I've never had deep dive - yet digestible - context provided like this.
With the crazy production value I thought these would be wayyy farther apart, this is awesome!
I've never been too much into audiobooks due to acute hearing loss issues but this was an absolute treat. Absolutely stellar job.
Reading through The Catalogue of Ships is rather rough but hearing it like this was awesome.
I'm truly obsessed with that description of the irony of Agamemnon's lie, spectacular stuff.
❌: We outnumber them at least ten to one. ✅: We outnumber them so much that if we divide in groups of ten, and every group captures one trojan to serve them wine, many of the groups would lack a wine pourer
I love your interpretation of Odysseus. He has that old timey Hollywood Simple Country Lawyer energy.
I've followed your work since the first "critical close ups" (10 year ago???) and this is probably my favourite thing you've produced. Astounding quality, I know it's not as mainstream a topic as video games but I really hope you have great success with this series
52:00 so "I clapped when I saw that cameo" is timeless, huh
Question is....you adapting all 24 books?
Honestly if George just wanted to start doing audio books I'd be down.
If one of your goals with posting this on your channel was making some random nerds uninterested in this text give it a try, you've succeeded. Your work on this is so impressive
This is what happens when you let your average metal gear enthusiast play assassins creed odyssey
Thanks for all the hard working putting this here, i am really liking listening. i need to admit thought when i heard without looking on the screen the part "So he spoke, and a great roar erupted among the Argives" I thought Argives was Ehrgeiz, that game.
The best narration is when it can make you feel as if someone of that time was talking to you, the atmosphere and tone fulfills that very well. Cheers!
I love your version of the Iliad. There's no friction at all to enjoying the story, and it's actually kind of a banger.
I’m hooked can’t wait for ep 3
I really like this interpretation of Odysseus. It makes the epithet "silver-tongued" make more sense to modern ears.
So Agamemnon is basically Richard Nickson from Futurama X) That dude gets around, no matter the age or time.
Really liked how you did Odysseus here. Good everyman quality with dashes of a Coen Bros./Simpsons doofus. Good cover for his wit and cunning.
So Patreon Patrons list is basically this channel’s Catalog of ships
I've waited a long time for a new update. Looking forward to seeing what George has in store with this one!
I never know what i'm gonna get from this channel and it's always something amazing
This is absolutely fantastic!!
People say this content is unexpected from you but having watched your latest videos I think it's fairly noticeable how you've wanted to do steer your channel into a new direction for a while now. Best of lucks.
This is very educational as well as entertaining! I hope you'll look into other myths after it... Arthurian would be nice
Thank You is all I can say, Thank you
Great job George!
"The god's are no longer divided in council. Hera's convinced them ... of her will" Not sure exactly how to read this change Agamemnon makes to the dream (did he forget? Doesn't like spouses?), but it gave me a good chuckle.
You know it's interesting hearing you compare between Hesiod and Homer. Maybe it was just the translation I read but I remember theogony having a ton of personality, particularly of hesiod himself and it was a great read. Obviously not to the scale of Homer's works but that wasn't the point Regardless, loving the commentaries. Learning some things we didn't even cover in my university classics courses!
Hey, George - if you'd like to check out a tabletop RPG that should be right up your alley given your current vibe, see AGON by John Harper and Sean Nittner. Might empower you to play through your very own Odyssey... :)
oh fuck part 2 already? hell yeah
They made us read The Odyssey back in school, and despite being pretty into history I failed to find it interesting. However I've excitedly been listening to this thus far! I think it's so cool of you to dive full force into the things you're passionate about despite it not being stricly "in your wheelhouse", it's really inspiring from a creative standpoint. Keep it up, man 👍
Nice
"Hera has convinced them in her way most spousel" Lol
This is pure gold, George. Looking forward to the next episode. I am sure you already have, but if you haven't, please do check Simone Weil's "The Iliad or the Poem of Force". It is right up your alley.
This is tight
I'm really enjoying this. Good work!
Thanks for the vid
Thanks for doing this, it’s great stuff.
cool story bro
I’m really confused and I love it
What Is the meaning in the party when Nestor suggests to Agamemnon to use the troops in a new formation made by "fulai" and "fratriai" (these are the greek Words but i wrote them in western alphabet)??
Yes yes
25:00 the ships
Funny that Homer so wants to stress that it's a big army that he dedicates several elaborate comparisons to it. Lots of dudes, we get it.
I LOVE YOU GEORGE ❤
book 2 down!
I only know of "The Illiad" because of Lara Croft, in Tomb Raider Anniversary. Specifically, during the mansion level where you try to find little secrets here and there. It's a book. I guess her father was huge into history and was an explorer.
@Inferryu
Жыл бұрын
Being an anthropologist and an archaeologist, her father was indeed an explorer and huge into history
George, are you okay? Just checking If you got your infinite ammo bandanna while you read.
Who is the translator?
Let's goooo
1st
bruh
First
@mrzoozilla971
Жыл бұрын
When was the last time you saw a first comment, huh?
@LtSprinkulz
Жыл бұрын
@@mrzoozilla971 🤓
@mrzoozilla971
Жыл бұрын
@@LtSprinkulz 😭