The History of Thanksgiving
This video discusses the history of Thanksgiving from the early Pilgrims in Plymouth to George Washington to Sarah Josepha Hale.
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Melanie Kirkpatrick, "Thanksgiving: The Holiday at the Heart of the American Experience" (amzn.to/3uBPgja)
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Only a Philistine would eat key lime pie on Thanksgiving.
@Mujangga
5 ай бұрын
*Philistines did nothing wrong!*
@olorinmartinez
5 ай бұрын
Unthinkable
@bman5257
5 ай бұрын
To those who refuse to eat pecan pie nor pumpkin pie nor the like delicacies, but contrive absurd flavors by their blasphemous tastes, upon the feast of thanksgiving. And in their machinations consume key lime pie or any similar abominations for such an event, the holy Church proscribes, condemns, and anathematizes.
@drusilladelp5162
5 ай бұрын
I love key lime pie
@bman5257
5 ай бұрын
@@drusilladelp5162 I do too. But it doesn’t fit Thanksgiving.
It fills me with so much joy that you’re uploading again.
@walterdebnam8021
5 ай бұрын
Good one Ryan 👍☝️✝️ I guess up here in Washington State it's Blackberry pie. Well, there are a lot of Blackberries up here. But I am a pumpkin pie fan. But, I grew up in the military with southern parents, so go figure. Gooseberry pie is really good too. Or, custard pie, one of my favorites. The very best part though is being THANKFUL ☝️ And hopefully love between everyone there, and peace. Sadly, that's become more rare as time goes on. Well, that's Scriptural , so we keep looking up. Luke 21. HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU RYAN AND YOUR FAMILY. MARANATHA 🔜 ☝️💥🌄✝️ Walter, Deeana and Randie ❤️❤️❤️
PA here. Shoofly pie has a gooey molasses filling. Not pure molasses there’s like flour and egg (I think) to get it firm. It is actually PA Dutch but most people who grew up in PA are familiar. It’s delicious! Also, so glad you started posting again. I’m not super religious I just like the history. Have a good Thanksgiving Ryan!
@millionbells
5 ай бұрын
Also, it was named after a fighting mule.
@gerard4870
5 ай бұрын
Shoefly pie is now made in mennonite/amish settings, and is basically a caramel, chocolate, cream pie. It is the best of all of them. And it will kill you stone dead. And you will die happy.
@gerard4870
5 ай бұрын
Shoefly pie is now made in mennonite/amish settings, and is basically a caramel, chocolate, cream pie. It is the best of all of them. And it will kill you stone dead. And you will die happy.
Thank you for uploading again Dr Reeves! As I watch your videos I’m inspired by your commitment to historical accuracy and your commitment to detailing it from a Christian perspective. May God bless your family’s Thanksgiving. Keep the uploads coming!
We're thankful for the pilgrims with Samoset & Squanto.🦃
Canadian here, we do a traditional Turkey dinner for thanksgiving. Stuffing, mash potatoes, the whole spread. sometimes there's a ham as well. Pumpkin pie is probably number one, then apple. The only real difference is we do ours in October. The 2nd Monday in October. I think that has something to do with our harvest being a bit earlier as we're more northern so it happens sooner.
I love how you started with desert. Priorities, people!
Life is so much better with Dr Reeves videos during thanksgiving. Thankful! Praise the Lord!
Ryan, I'm thankful in this season that you are bringing in more videos for all of us to enjoy. I'm glad to have the honor of being a Patron. And as with so many others here, I am blessed by your insight and wisdom.
can’t tell you the last time I was so excited to see new videos posted by a “content creator”. Thank you again for returning to us! - I very grateful student
Now I want a video dedicated to Sarah Hale! Happy Thanksgiving!
@Yesica1993
5 ай бұрын
Right? She sounds like a fascinating person!
What an amazing come back, the new videos are great. Congratulations, it was worth the waiting!
Frito Pie is a bag of fritos mixed with chili (from a can, unless you are dedicated) with Tex Mex cheese as topping. Served like lasagna with sour cream as a topping. I wish I was making this up.
@regsun7947
5 ай бұрын
My friends call that Fritomale pie and is popular at pot lucks.
Happy Thanksgiving Ryan!!
@RyanReevesM
5 ай бұрын
Back at you
I’m so happy I was recommended your Galileo video, as since I’ve been loving all of your lectures/videos I’ve watched. Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!
Thx for posting again. I learn so much each time.
Great to see you uploading, brother!
Shoofly pie, from the bottom up is: pie crust, a molasses based layer of goo, a cake layer (sweetened with molasses) and a crumb topping. It's delicious, but definitely a unique pie. We usually had it for breakfast at my grandmother's house, I don't remember having it on Thanksgiving.
@davidbarnhart2575
5 ай бұрын
Wet bottom pie.. like Montgomery pie, if that helps..
Please continue to produce videos for I have watched I believe everyone of your videos multiple times. More over, I have shared your videos with hundreds of people and use them in my own classes. I learned so much from you and I would so much like you to continue to do this.
Thankful You are back !
Thank you so much for making new videos!
Thank you Ryan! Your knowledge and the way you present it is always unique, fascinating, ntriguing and VALUABLE.
Man, way to bring up Sarah Hale! I've heard of her before but didn't realize how influential she was. I'll definitely research her some more after this.
good to see your still around
Wow I just noticed the new videos in the channel. 🎉🎉🎉 Thank you Ryan Your channel is so edifying to me. I already watched all the videos like 3 times each 😅 now is time to get back in track. My favorite channel in general specially in church history. May God Continue to Bless your life, your family and your ministry.
I learned so much from this. Thank you, Mr. Reeves!
I just found this channel, God Bless you it's been join learning and having a launching point to dive even deeper!
A Thanksgiving miracle! Thank you Dr. Reeves!
thanks to Dr. Reeves for returning to KZread, was greatly missed
Fascinating stuff! Didn't know about Sarah Hale's contributions to the holiday as we know it now.
Thankful for more Ryan Reeves videos. Thank you!
Oh my goodness, didn't realise this channel was uploading again, what a lovely surprise ☺️
Thank you, Professor!
Excellent as always
Just enjoyed this video while eating my Thanksgiving pecan pie, pumpkin pie, and pound cake! Thank you, Dr. Reeves!
God Bless You, Dr. Reeves and Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Shoofly Pie is also sold in Delaware. It is a very easy and inexpensive pie that requires molasses, brown sugar, baking soda, eggs, flour, water, and lard. If you want a great pie crust you will need salt and butter. I would also add that the Plymouth Colony dumped the Mayflower Compact in order to survive but I think you have already covered that in a previous video. :)
I've never heard of Sarah Hale before this video, thank you for the informative introduction. Wonderful person and traditions to keep alive passing it on to my kids, supplementing their "knowledge" of color coded turkey cutouts they learn of this holiday at school..
Thank you for an informative history of Thanksgiving grounded in facts and for avoiding the self-righteous hysterics we so often hear. Well done 👏
Good work on this friend
Frito chili pie is basically exactly what it sounds like. But with nacho cheese and no pie crust.
@briggy4359
5 ай бұрын
Dude I was just looking at your donkey meme! Can you do a video on the word for snake in Genesis?
@TestifyApologetics
5 ай бұрын
@@briggy4359I think Inspiring Philosophy and Bible Project covered it. I focus more on NT stuff. But thanks for subbing!
Sarah Hale you are a legend may you Continue to Rip 🙏🏻👑
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
Holy Turkey!!! I didn't realize Dr. Reeves was back! I have some catching up to do. Sending Poutine Thanks down south to you!
I live in Salina, Mayes County, Ok. I'm originally from Circleville, OH. I'd never heard of a Frito Chili Pie until I moved here. It's a bowl of chili with corn chips in it. We also add cheese, onions, and sour cream. I didn't know it was a Kansas thing. It's definitely an Oklahoma thing. They sell it at all the dairyettes. Love your videos by the way. Been watching them for years.
I have enjoyed this video ❤
I'm not sure how well the Google trends of pie searches correlate to actual pie consumption. Pies that people in a given region/household traditionally/regularly eat on Thanksgiving are usually family recipes that obviously don't need to be Googled.
I am a native of AZ and my family has been here since the 40s. I have never EVER heard of grape pie.
In recent years, I've grown in appreciation of the original intent behind the practice of thanksgiving feasts. But with our country extremely divided and our society having such little appreciation and vision for the vital female gifts women bring to the table, the history of Sara Josepha Hale's contribution to the holiday makes me love Thanksgiving even more! In a day of such selfish individualism, atomization of the family, devaluing of family and community, and contempt for the gift that children are, our land is in desperate need of these same gifts!
So glad you are posting again! Where do u teach? I want to come be your student!
Happy Thanksgiving
I like your emphasis on Sarah Josepha Hale. My personal favorite Thanksgiving figure is Squanto, but she certainly was a very, very important person in the history of Thanksgiving.
In Germany, the typical Thanksgiving-diner (Erntedankfest-Schmaus) consists out of all the regional goodies made from regional crops and produce.
“Because it's Florida” is the greatest line I didn't expect from this channel 😂😂😂
I saw that pie map a few days ago. I grew up in Jersey. Lived in Florida for years. Now I live in Butler Pennsylvania. We don't eat shoe pie here. You can't even find it. Pumpkin is the pie 🥧 in Western Pennsylvania. Some people like apple 🍎. Apples are in season. In many years in Tampa Bay... nobody ate Key Lime on Thanksgiving. I must admit that Sweet Potato pie 🥧 is popular especially with Black Americans in Florida. It's much like pumpkin pie and I took a liking to it. Now if could only go back in time and have my mother's Rhubarb pie in New Jersey. It's always the crust that makes a pie. Have a blessed Thanksgiving and especially my fellow veterans.
Fantastic
I'm ever thankful for Dr. Reeves but I was horrified that he pronounced "pee-con" as "pee-kan" 😂😂 Haha, thank you very much for all you do Dr. Reeves. Happy Thanksgiving!
@RyanReevesM
5 ай бұрын
Don’t hate on my regional diction 😎
@ReadingReformed
5 ай бұрын
@RyanReevesM (holy Christokos God bless Luther Ryan Reeves just responded to my comment🤯) Haha! Well I'm from California, so we have our own problems too😂 God bless you and your family Dr. Reeves🦃🙏🏽 (btw, just joking about the christokos).
Shoofly Pie is Amish. From the Amish Baskets website (because I don't want to type out my recipe from my Amish cookbook): Ingredients 3/4 c. hot water 3/4 tsp. baking soda 1 c. molasses (unsulphured) 1 large egg (beaten) Topping: 1 c. plus 2 tbsp flour 2/3 c. brown sugar (light or dark) 4 Tbsp. unsalted butter Pinch of salt
So good to hear your voice on history every single time grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ be cool
Has anyone mentioned that ShoeFly pie should be eaten with ice cream and coffee? I feel like this is important.
Hey Ryan, I asked my grandma who is from Pennsylvania about what a Shoofly pie is. She said it is made from molasses so flies tend to swarm it, hence the need to shoo them away from your pie!
@Ken-fh4jc
5 ай бұрын
I’m from PA. It’s actually a PA Dutch thing. It’s delicious.
European here. Thank you for this lecture. I knew almost nothing about American Thanksgiving.
Shout out to Sarah Hale
Frito chili pie is the bomb, but I don't know how the hell it became a Thanksgiving dish.
@Nero-ho6gt
5 ай бұрын
Is it literally made of frito chips and chili?
@hamnchee
5 ай бұрын
@@Nero-ho6gt Yes. It's f-n awesome. Some bars will make it as a snack for you right in the little single serve frito bag.
Shoofly pie got its name (so I was told by my Arkansas relatives) because it was meant to sit at the end of the picnic table on hot summer afternoons and its sweetness would draw all the flies away from the rest of the food. This might be bullshit, but I think it's a fun story.
Professor Reeves, is there an address via which one could contact you privately to ask a question, email, etc.?
How would the Wampanoags not know the plains Indians existed? The Iroquois certainly knew of the plains Indians and traded with them some. There was plenty of trade and diplomacy and awareness of the other tribes throughout North America. It's a rather fantastical pop-culture perspective to think the natives were so primitive and unestablished that they didn't know about the other tribes which lived a significant distance away, especially such a widespread and consequential people as the plains Indians who had earned a reputation for being very violent and especially treacherous. The Wampanoags also were almost certainly aware that the Aztecs existed too, and probably even the Incas, though the further the people the vaguer the awareness.
He has returned.
I am a Pennsylvania resident, and a shoo fly pie is very common here. Is it made with molasses and associated with PA Dutch/German cuisine.
Dr. Ryan, I honestly do not intend to be crude, but I'm not sure Nevada's "Cream Pie" has anything to do with baking. Especially when you factor in for how the results were obtained and what Nevada's largest city is.
The buckle on the hat is sketchu! 🤔🤔. Another great video, thank you!
This is an interesting video, one that points out exactly what to me Thanksgiving has always been. That map, though, just confuses me. Washington and blackberries make sense. Oregon, well tamale pie makes sense in that there are a lot of people there originally from Mexico, but tamale pie is NOT a desert pie. And as for Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana and Key Lime pie? Just no! You're going to find pumpkin, apple, and some cream pies, likely even a few pecan pies and key lime pies but there's no way key lime is the most popular pie of that region.
Im from oregon, never even heard of tamale pie lol
Hail Hale, give thanks to the All Mighty!
Only the Federal Government was intended to be separated from church. The state governments were to be free to favor the religion of the local people, without interference from the Federal Government.
@hamnchee
5 ай бұрын
I'm happy the States have avoided doing such a thing.
@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah
5 ай бұрын
@@hamnchee They didn't all avoid it. They went away from it over time. Here is an excerpt of the quick summary I was just given by Bing AI: "Most instances of state-supported religion were removed before 1850, and the remaining requirements became null and void after the passing of the 14th Amendment on July 28, 1868" The intention was for the states to have religious freedom, not for them to be forced into Secular Humanism. We may have some wonderful Christian states today, if that religious freedom had remained respected. Then again, there's not much indication that politics was going that way, so maybe losing that freedom was for the best.
@hamnchee
5 ай бұрын
@@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah No one has been forced into secular humanism. You have religious freedom my friend.
@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah
5 ай бұрын
@@hamnchee I'm talking about people groups. I may have religious freedom to be a Christian in a Secular Humanist society, but do a Christian people have the freedom to establish a governance which is run specifically according to their Christian belief? Civilly, they allow preborn children to be murdered where I live. Does the preborn child have religious freedom? I don't think being subjected to Secular Humanism is as free as you would like to think it is.
@hamnchee
5 ай бұрын
@@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah You can be an abortion abolitionist without a religious government, or even religion. Abortion isn't a tenent of secular humanism. Vote and practice your values! However, if you are serious about wanting a theocratic revolution because you don't have the votes, you'll have to fight a war. It's only fair, right?
Shoe fly pie- a Pennsylvanian Dutch pie- think of pecan pie except with a molasses concoction covered with floury crumbs in a pie crust😉😮
Nice
In Colorado I have never seen a cherry pie on Thanksgiving. Maybe pumpkin, apple, and pecan, but not cherry.
Frito chili pie isn’t actually pie. It’s basically putting Fritos into chili.
@RyanReevesM
5 ай бұрын
I’m here for it….go on.
I wonder if he will do one for Christmas? I hope so
I find it hilarious that Illinois, the largest grower of pumpkins, prefers cherry pie
I'm 50 and have lived in Arizona my whole life, and I've never heard of grape pie
Thanksgiving came from Harvest Home which was celebrated in England.
😳 wow
@yungcash8800
5 ай бұрын
Yea bruh it's real
i’ve lived in NC for 30 years and i’ve never heard of buttermilk pie…
Tamale pie is an entree or side dish. Where tamales are traditionally steamed and made in bulk. Tamale pie is baked and you make one or a couple. Its easier to make than making batches of tamales in my opinion
I live in Arizona I never heard of a grape pie
Please do the history of marriage!
The country's oldest city was founded in 1565. The Spanish settlers celebrated with a CATHOLIC Mass of Thanksgiving and shared a meal with the native Seloy tribe. THIS WAS OUR NATIONS FIRST THANKSGIVING!!!
@stevewagner7507
5 ай бұрын
As Reeves says, "don't be that person." lol
@MrISkater
5 ай бұрын
@@stevewagner7507what's the issue.
The second I heard author of “Mary Had A Little Lamb” I shouted, “Oh she’s the woman from either New Hampshire or Vermont!” (Sorry New Hampshire/Vermont for not distinguishing well enough between you…)
You’re make us Texans claim thanksgiving now 😅
I’ve lived in Oregon my whole life (40 years) and have never heard about a tamale pie let alone ate one for thanksgiving. Pumpkin for the win. Maybe Southern Oregon is more akin to California. 🤷🏼♂️
If you want to expand your first Thanksgiving feast to North America consider Frobisher Bay in 1584.
Canadian Thanksgiving is eating poutine, drinking Molson Ice and listening to Drake.
Shoofly pie has molasses,right?
Frito chili pie is delicious fight me
Shoofly pie is made with molasses, it’s a Pennsylvania Dutch/Mennonite creation
I've lived in AZ for 11 years. I've never seen nor heard of a Grape pie
As far as I know, in earlier times, Christ didn't need to be specified when speaking of God and religion, because there was no other possibility on the table. The idea of acknowledging any unchristian religion didn't cross anyone's minds back then. Perhaps that started to change around the turn of the century, prompting Cleveland and McKinley to specify what had once gone without saying.
@CampLJNC
5 ай бұрын
I assume they were trying to include Jewish people and Deists. Everyone that believes in a Creator can be thankful to Him.
@NicholasproclaimerofMessiah
5 ай бұрын
@@CampLJNC Jews and Deists don't believe in the Creator, so they give thanks to their own imaginations. As a matter of how the public statements were taken by the People at the time, your take is being applied anachronistically. As a matter of what the Freemasons had in mind, you are likely correct. So, when I said "didn't cross anyone's minds", I was speaking rather colloquially about the standard perspective which was publicly acceptable and politically viable. The Freemasons likely used vague wording to setup for the Perennialism (like Ecumenism, but beyond professed Christians to include all religions) which has since taken over the nation. Here is some standard history with no tinfoil hat, quote: "The first recorded instance of a Masonic lodge in France was in 1725. By 1772, the Grand Orient Lodge was established in France with 104 lodges. This number grew dramatically in the years leading up to the French Revolution, with the number of lodges reaching 2,000 by the time of the Revolution. Prior to the revolutionary period, there were an estimated 1,250 lodges in France with around 40,000 members." End quote. The Freemasons also tried to get George Washington to assist with the French Revolt, even though the American War Of Independence was declared for legitimate cause by the legitimate authorities here in America, while the French Revolt was blatant extreme terrorism. It's astounding to that France still uses the flag of the revolt as their flag; it's exceedingly disgraceful. So, it was likely doublespeak. The People were meant to read the statements as statements which can only apply to Christianity, whereas the Freemasons were deliberately setting up for an unchristian future for America, which future we now live in.
I see a striking similarity to the ancient Roman festival "Epulum Iovis" (feast of Iuppiter), not only the way it was celebrated, but also the date, which is close to the Ides of November, and the fact that it is always celebrated on a Thursday (fr. jeudi = Iovis dies = day of Iuppiter). The connection is not impossible, since in the time of the Renaissance, when America was discovered, many tried to reconstruct classical Roman culture.
@kidflersh7807
5 ай бұрын
Total coincidence. Plus, the pilgrims would NOT want to reconstruct Roman culture.
@bloopboop9320
5 ай бұрын
Harvest festivals have existed in pretty much every culture.
The sources I am finding, say that Lincoln's proclamation was to give thanks for defeating the South at Gettysburg. The war had not even ended yet. Seems that celebrating the impending defeat of the Southerners is absolutely contrary to forgetting our differences. Battle Hymn Of The Republic presents the Gospel as being fulfilled in the victory of the North and the end of slavery; that's a false gospel, and is exactly parallel with Wokeness in the present day. "We are stamping out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored"; the lyric proclaims the North to be agents of God's wrath punishing the South. The North had no notion of forgetting differences. They deliberately strove to cripple the South in the aftermath of the war. Perhaps forgetting differences sounded nice in Sarah's letter, but it's just spin to look purer by pretending to well-wish the enemy. Sarah may have believed it, just as the Woke delude themselves today. If we don't learn from history, then we cannot prevent ourselves from repeating it.