It was very kind of them to share the financials. Thank you all....

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

@@barendgarvelink @z20000z Thanks guys!

A very refreshing and honest accounting from someone that can obviously afford the boat they’ve chosen. Most people wouldn’t be so forthcoming about the financial side of owning such a large boat. Thank you James and Filipa for your candor and good humor, you seem like really nice folks.

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard

@davidhunternyc1

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I know nothing about boats but I was super impressed with the candidness and modesty from these folks in this video. Great people.

@kingprone7846

3 жыл бұрын

at that point it doesnt matter if the boat costs 1 million or 2 million. But it does sometimes help people who are after second hand or older yachts make a decision.

@myiagreeaccount8307

2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video!

@robertparkinson6919

2 жыл бұрын

I would love a boat with standing headroom and I bet they don't know what bucket and Chuck it means, salt water natures disinfectant My well equipped Elizabethan 23 cost me 4 thousand pounds 20 years ago sails like a 5 knot OCC 6 dream I'm not envious at all but good information in case I win the lottery. PS nice people.

I have to say, this was the most forthright explanation of costs I've seen. Really eye opening. Thanks!

@RyanSophieSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Yeay! So glad you liked it ☺️

@puertola7186

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! A real eye-opener!

I've seen James and Phillipa on other episodes and channels and they seem like very down to earth, good people.

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks James! ☺

Sardinia Corsica fuel ! Yep … everything is expensive there. I found eating ashore cripplingly expensive too and I’m not poor ! 😂 I agree with other comments here … James and Philipa have been very candid here ! (Extremely useful for those of us who are returning to sailing after a 20 year break !) What a lovely couple… best wishes.

One of the best, if not the best, sailing videos I have seen. Informative, interesting, down to earth and honest, brilliant. A must see for any one wishing to do this lifestyle. The numbers might be scary but you can equate them to any size of yacht. Fantastic job.

This is S/Y Rain Finger, admiring your methodology. We circumnavigated in the 1980s. This trip we bought a used boat, hired subcontractors that we supervised, fitting out this boat (Bristol 35.5 with electric drive). In the Covid era there is a lot of talent, looking for work. You guys did a great job on your boat, and learned there is no substitute for experience when going to sea.

Appreciate your friends sharing their costs. An eye opener, for sure.

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

Your welcome Leo!

I’m building a cat in Asia, but I plan to live near the builder’s boatyard for a year after it’s built and sail it there to get all the bugs out while living nearby. I’ve owned enough boats to know how it works. My builder is totally open to that, and will make adjustments/repairs as necessary. But I will be retired at that point, so can spend the time there. I wouldn’t buy a boat expecting to sail away. Even used. Spend some time near good mechanics and yards until the kinks are worked out.

Great episode - and thanks to the owners for that candid and sobering account. Lovely Yacht for sure... just think it should've come that way. Thanks!

...... very interesting .... two upgrades that come to mind that, to me the non boat owner yet, stuck out, actually three, larger engine (so often when looking at used one questions if the motor would be adequate in a dire situation) electronics having the latest is paramount and thirdly refrigeration and found it interesting that they had an additional Dometic chest freezer in one of the aft cabins. Being able to stock up when you find economical supplies, stellar. Also enables to stay out longer without having to find somewhere to provision and that brings 4 the watermaker .... oh yes something not mentioned, a sextant, so to be always learning, so not lost when that solar flare comes or that lighting strike .... another great Sophie and Ryan installment, thx to the both of you .. as always never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans .....

Thanks to all on this video, seriously a full understanding of the cost and the resources needed from someone that can afford this life style. The one thing I have noticed on all sailing channels, is the endless maintenance issues. Clearly, James and Philipa have significant wealth to pull this off without much concern.

One of the best and most direct cost to real ownership videos I have ever seen. Helped me and my family a lot. I hope you have continued success. Thanks!

Big thanks to James and Philipa for their very candid informational video! Sharing Aequis with all of us, your buying process, the good , bad and cautions that you’ve learned throughout the past two years. Love Aequis, she looks absolutely beautiful!! Thanks so much for sharing and Sophie, great job as always!!

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

Guys, thanks, this is one of the best videos out there. The honest experience, the value of lessons you learned and sharing with the rest of us for free cannot be appreciated enough. I especially like the part about all the nav gear, radar, lights... one would call it a luxury features, but in fact these are all safety features and from my point of view essentials, IF(!) someone plan to sail that much, crossing the oceans, spending months and months on the boat. I always thought these could be expensive, but that it will double the cost of the boat is an eye-opener.

Excellant, very clear and concise and very honest. Good on you all.

Thank you guys and thank your friends. It great the hear from someone be open about the costs.

That was great. It's one thing to show KZread your boat, it's so much more to be candid about all the costs and mistakes. Thank you!

Very nice interview with James and Philippa. Very informative and a nice vibe. Thanks to you all

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Olav.

Beautiful. I really appreciate the facts and figures for a realistic idea. Thank you.

Had a Beneteau 432.....as with All new boats we have issues. Lost 10 lbs during the commissioning. It was also 3 weeks late. Our boat show purchase had a few good options included to help with sales including most of the instrumentation we needed. Of course we added lots more. In the small print they are allowed to make cosmetic changes. Found out through our owners group they were removing some internal teak. I was able to have some installed but no all. Made me sign a nondisclosure agreement that I would no tell others of our agreement. Opps.....love the boat but they can be a pain to purchase. If you buy a used boat you may not get exactly what you wanted but if a survey is done properly at lease you know what your getting.

@RyanSophieSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! Thanks for sharing Wayne, how interesting! Sorry that the commissioning was so stressful, that did not sound fun :(

Thanks to these guys for being frank and transparent about the costs. Rarely fo you get this kind of info.

Great job James and Philipa were very open and honest about what it takes to sail on a big rig like that

Thanks for the candid video. I choked on my glass of wine when you got to the insurance costs. Great video.

Thank you Sophie&Ryan to introduce us the owners of the dive compressor. 😊. The Bav57 looks like a beautiful boat. I wish you all fair winds. 🖐⛵

That is probably the best yacht video i have watched, thanks

A big thank you for the candid information from your friends. Just to complete information on the other side of possibilities, I have bought a new boat from Bénéteau, an Oceanis 31 in 2018: basic cost was 78'000 Euros , options kept to a minimum but including transport was 19'000 Euros and the local preparation cost was 6000.- Total just over 100'000 eur or some 125'000 US$. I then added some improvements as a gennaker, solar pannel and some more instruments for some 5000 euros. A 31 footer is probably the minimum size to sail away, but I am not in this case, I sail on a lake in in the middle of Europe and my boat is 15 minutes away from my home. I paid 30% in advance, the big chunk before delivery and the last preparation cost to the dealer after a local check up sail. Very few hicups as the model is not a new one, it was in fact replaced two years later. All was basically taken care of by the dealer under warranty. I follow you Sophie and Ryan because of the brand of the boat and the technical advice you bring to the table, well... and also because of Sophie's smile....

Thanks for the transparency about ordering the Bavaria. Certainly interesting and informative.

Very nice couple and extremely nice of them to be so forthcoming about their experience and costs. Many KZread channels are exposing many facets of production boat mfg's shortfalls. A list of (or at least examples of) what a was not correct would be somewhat useful. I have now lived on my "new to me" 1991 Pacific Seacraft 37' for 1 1/2 years and have sailed it a couple thousand miles. Like many folks my departure timeline for cruising was delayed due COVID, with the upside being that am still realizing what I want to upgrade while still based out of my home port. Great video.

Great video guys! Keep living the dream! As you know we discovered a lot of initial problems too at the beginning, but like you, our boat is now finally almost perfect. My next expense will probably be solar panels too...... we plan on cruising up north (to where the butter melts) at the end of April..... cruise the east coast of Australia with no rushing this time. Stay safe. 🥂

James and Philipa thanks for sharing. Great to understand the actual price of a new boat.

Hi Ryan & Sophie, 2 times a day I am driving on the boulevard from Bonaire. And always looking to that beautiful boat of yours on the mooring. Enjoy our beautiful island and the Caribbean .

Thank You for sharing your experience about the boat. Especially brand new one! Appreciate it a lot 🙏🏻🎉

Amazing information. Thank you for being so down to earth about your boat finances!

What a beautiful boat ! That is probably the widest interior I've seen in a sailboat. I am weighing my options for a new vs used catamaran or restoring a racing/cruising trimaran so I can relate to this video.

excellent post . I am seriously considering getting a boat for the next chapter of my life and this helps a lot.

Great video. Thank you to you and your friends for the transparency and honesty.

James and Philipa thank you for sharing. This is the first video covering the realities of a new sailboat from the buyer perspective I've seen! Very informative. Kinda wished you would have offered up a few of the flaws you found, but "beggars can't be choosers. I learned a lot! Thanks!!

@skyak4493

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you title this video right -no beggars, just choosers... I think it would be "millionaires should not be complainers". They did fine. That is just what it costs.

Great video! It was very insightful! Especially the info about the insurance! I had heard that new boats required quite a shake down to get the kinks out of them but it was really great to hear their story. I'm looking to buy my first boat this year. It most likely will be a "previously owned" boat!

Insurance has to be the most annoying costs, that you never need till you don't have it. But any place that has had huge write off costs associated with weather you see huge premiums. Very insightful video guys!

Really nice interview. Eye popping for sure. I thoroughly appreciate James's forthrightness about their experience. Naivety

@williamdykes2750

3 жыл бұрын

Naivety on my part about buy-in a new boat problems.

Thank you so much. This show was very insightful & helpful to us. Thank you once more.

Thanks for this, very interesting. Too many channels feel like they aren't handling these questions of hidden costs and poor quality with new boats.

Thank you for making this video and to James and Philips for sharing their costs, great insight into the true costs of new boat ownership. I knew parts of the Med are very pricey but you really put some detail to that. Bavaria really ought to include the cockpit fridge as standard. Cheers

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

you are very welcome!

Sophie: Another great video. Key takeaway: Have the boat thoroughly tested before sailing away. There are good 3rd party companies next to the Hanse plant in Germany that do inspections and sea trials for the dealers before delivery to customers. I'm sure the same applies to Bavaria. The premise that its easier to resolve issues on a new boat when next to the plant. Greifswald, Germany has very good aftermarket companies to do the work that was not on the factory offering list, and they also provide the warranty repair work for Hanse. I got a lot from this video - thanks again. Dave.

Open and honest overview, nice, thanking you guys !

Thats a bit of an aye opener. Thanks for your honesty.

Great video with realistic and well found advice to future sailboat owners. Stuff happens on all sailboats but having a new boat under warranty is better or a very well maintained one owner boat can work too. I was very fortunate to have a exceptional Beneteau dealer who made my experience in boat ownership a dream compared to others I heard about. It's all about service after the sale satisfying the new owners punch list of boat equipment needing adjustments (all boats have them)..that's why I purchased my Beneteau 40 after getting great service on my original Beneteau 361 10 years before.

Excellent interview . I found the information very useful and extremely interesting . many thanks

Learned a lot from this video about costs of owning and buying a sailing yacht. GREAT JOB and Thanks a lot!

Absolutely beautiful boat I’m very envious having grown up on smaller sailboat!! Happy sailing!

Get a cockpit refrigerator for beer. A water maker will keep me out of marinas. I probably don’t need underwater lights. Consider a used boat. Hold back some final payment until all problems are fixed. Stay close and sail often until all systems are well tested. In the Mediterranean budget for lots of fuel and/or get a good light air sail. In the Caribbean budget for Insurance and air conditioning. Get a Dive Compressor. 😃 Mo Money Mo Problems.

@philgray1023

3 жыл бұрын

Are you serious? No underwater lights! Next you will be doing away with the giant inflatable unicorns. What is the world coming to.

@SuperSetright

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@Onyourbiketoo

3 жыл бұрын

Also he could have halved the money spent on the tender/dinghy

@worstchoresmadesimple6259

2 жыл бұрын

Join the Royal Navy at 17 and obtain Mariner's skills and qualifications. Retire 10 years later, work for 10 years on luxury vessels cleaning and sailing for billionaires and their escorts, then with savings, buy a decent second hand yacht and follow Mr English Coach Chad's list of suggestions. Keep in mind that something like a Bavaria yacht costs the same as a Mortgage within the edges of the M25. Good luck. And oh yes, open a KZread channel and produce content. All the best. (This upload gets a thumbs up from me).

really great information and thank you to both of them to be honest!

I really like the content and quality of your videos. Excelelnt advice given. Im so happy for you 2, back on the boat. Have fun

@RyanSophieSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Sandra, I’m so glad you enjoyed it ☺️

fantastic, thanks. unfortunately just a pipe dream for me but lovely to see people doing this, all the best xxx from the UK

Thank you for the amazing graciousness of sharing your experience as relatively inexperienced owners of a brand new yacht and model. It is incredibly important that potential again, relatively inexperienced prospective buyers of these incredibly complex and exceptional machines understand the TOTAL COSTS of acquisition and "growing pains" they and their vessels will undergo during the first 14 - 26 months of ownership. I couldn't help thinking while watching that viewing this video should BE REQUIRED of all purchasers of new model ocean-going vessels.

This is one of the most useful boat videos I’ve seen

Great information and very helpful good job!

Filippa and James, thank you for taking the time to make this candid video. I had no idea how the new boat world works. Do you guys have any regrets not buying a used catamaran? From my living room those fly bridge Lagoons look like the hot ticket. James, your 20 year old Rolex GMT Master II has gone up in value 5x. It would be nice if boats did the same.

Thank you! very informative. first time I see such a detailed breakdown of the real costs of buying a Yacht. 5*

Damn this is massive. Especially for two people! Looks so beautiful!

Thanks for sharing their story. It is consistent experience as shared by other new boat buyers. We will be buying used because new is too expensive anyway but we figure we'll have to deal with problems regardless.

I'm in the Market for a used boat. Your Bavaria is fabulous, I'll be looking into Bavaria's yachts. Thank you for a great video

Wow and another ship I know, the drilling vessel in the background is a sistership in the company I now work in. You guys see so much that I recognize. It makes watching your channel a surpise every time. I hope you have many safe miles and adventures ahead. Living the dream with all challenges that come with it.

This was a great video and the information was priceless.

Don't understand all the negative comments... this video was so insightful! Thank you!!! I have been thinking at length about buying a Bavaria C57, with many of the same features, so this has certainly opened my eyes! Will definitely be following their page too for more information!

@RyanSophieSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic! Glad you enjoyed this!!

Thank you for the great episode! I am a subscriber now. Thanks!

Excellent video... loved it!!! Very helpful

Great interview and nice couple, thanks!

What a fabulous couple ! Compelling content.

Thank you all for this. I've saved my money and I have this rosy picture of buying a new boat and sailing off into the sunset... but a new boat having as many problems as a used boat? That's really good to know, for two reasons. First, if I do get that new boat I won't feel screwed and second, that makes me less worried about buying a used boat. First bubble burst: all the wonderful options . . .+30%? Nope + 100%. Whew! now I won't get whiplash. The whole sail boat industry owes cruiser channels like yours a huge debt.

I found this video to be even more informative watching it for the second time!

I’ve been considering a new sailboat live aboard... this was very informative thank you

Extremely informative. If I was wealthy, I would buy new but that is a dream for me. Great episode and please thank them again for being so candid.

Thank you for a such honest and informative video! Well done.

This was epic, now following your channel cause of these guys

Thank you for the vid, massive eye opener

Fabulous video! Enjoyed it very much.

This is fabulous content! Long time sailor looking to buy a boat to spend more time with the family.

I've seen James and Phillipa on other channels plus urs. I'm waiting for Phillipa to start putting out videos like she said she wanted too. James and Phillipa are and would love to start following them. Ive already subscribed to there channel like 3 weeks ago but no video from them yet. I love u Ryan and sophie and have been following u guys for a long time. Thank you for ur awesome videos! Good luck to James and Phillipa! Chuck from Chatham, Massachusetts

Very nice channel and full of information. Just saw your outing with Zingaro, and that sure looked like fun. So I just hopped on board.

@RyanSophieSailing

3 жыл бұрын

How wonderful! Warm welcome! :)

Great video. I have been lucky enough to buy 2 new boats in the last 6 years - I agree with the comment - stay close to the dealer for the first 12 months! They don’t work out of the box like a car. The thing that surprised me most was that there is no safety kit included - no flares, life raft, beacon, heaving lines, jack stay etc. I appreciate that most people want to spec their own but a basic kit would have been good.

@RyanSophieSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, or dock lines or fenders! :)

@SailingAequus

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, the total price does include all the safety gear we have on board such as off shore life raft, EPIRB, life jackets, flares etc... But you are right that they are not included in the bareboat price!

Nice.... thank you for that episode.... insightful! Which reminds me... I sure miss Ryan's Tech Corner... when will we see more?!

Great video and thanks to handsome James, lovely Philipa, and gorgeous Aequus for sharing their boat and their costs. It's really good to know how much something I will never get is not going to cost me. ;) Polar Seal is more my budget, and I'm looking. Sail away!

No wonder Bavaria came out of bankruptcy right after these guys:-) Very well specified boat! We had similar problems with another manufacturer when we bought our new boat. After 2 years it became a good boat

A really interesting watch,thanks for sharing

thank you for a very interesting video......might one day reach out to you guys! Cheers to you , be safe and have fun!

These owners were right on point I bought a Jeanneau 519 new and found the process to be painful. I reluctantly upgraded to my currently Jeanneau 58 also new. While we love our 58 it too was painful working through all the items not just right. I like your guests have owned ours for going four seasons and have finally worked through all the corrective items but now I’m beginning into the normal maintenance items coming up . I too liked that I bought new but I think if you know what your doing you can find a well fitted resale boat too. I will say my Jeanneau came with many more of those items standard vs optional. 6 power winches, 4 heads, 5 ac units and many other items. So when you buy new you must throw a wide net.

@LATriBri

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your boat and thanks for your insight. Did your warranty cover a lot of the issues? That feels like one benefit of buying new vs used. Thanks in advance!

That video was really useful Soph. Thanks

A very valuable video, thanks.

Well done Sophie, your a great interviewer

Very interesting, thanks for sharing!

Great video! Nice interview Sophie and very helpful info. I was not surprised on the option costs but was on the marina cost in the Med. Good to know. Would I ever buy a new boat? Probably. I'm current selling an older Avance 40 (most people will need to look that one up - they are rare) and looking to order a new Hallberg Rassy 44 in a few years to sail in the Med and then Caribbean similar to James and Phillipa. Yes, I looked at the option prices. It won't double the price since H-R boats come fairly well equiped but it's still another $250k or more to spec a comfortable boat.

I love this video! Wow, I know nothing about boats and I learned so much about the costs of buying, owning, and running a boat. The expenses are never-ending. I'm happily surprised by how candid you both are. Most people don't want to talk about these costs. Have you heard of the new "Silent-Yachts?" They are catamarans with solar panels. No sails. No engines. No maintenance. Completely silent. They are like the Tesla's of the boating world and they are just getting started. I discovered them today and I wonder what you think about them. They are very expensive though and they might over promise and under deliver. Another weird thing I've noticed about boats is that it doesn't matter how expensive a boat is. From small boats to super yachts all boat interiors have these awful light strips under the bed, sofa, tables, everywhere. Often these light strips are in the ceiling too. I think these lights are cheesy looking but since everyone uses them there must be a reason? What, so you don't stab your toes climbing into bed? In general boat interiors are ugly. The prettiest interior I've seen is on the Ghost sailing yacht by Luca Brenta and Lissoni. It's a masterpiece. Beautiful boat interiors are not about money but about taste. Have you seen the interiors on Below Deck? Ugh, gag me with a spoon. Geeze, I wish someone would call me so I can design the interior of a boat.

Very helpful. Thank you.

Just like the other comments, Very helpful and I agree there is a lot to be said for buying a second hand boat. If anything just the added stuff they bought and are including in the sell of it. simple stuff like Oil, Wd40, wench handles, cushions, tender and motor etc. etc. etc. Thanks so much for the video

Great info Chandler.

How Filippa and James can afford this boat is none of my business. Their reasons for buying this boat is none of my business. My interest is in appreciating their lifestyle, the home they live in, and the fact they can go, literally, anywhere the water is deep enough to float their boat, And, btw, I also deeply admire Sophie and Ryan for what they have done. Yeah! :¬) Webhead USA

Very informative. Thank you!

This is a fabulous, important video. The lesson, which he uttered at the very beginning, is to buy a used boat. On a smaller but not minor scale, I had the same experience and feel the same way. If I do it again, used! Been on land for six years now but am wondering.....