Who's the PG GOAT in your opinion?

@JayzoTheNextKobeBryant2.0

8 ай бұрын

Steph Curry

@xtreme5745

8 ай бұрын

Stephen Curry

@silas2051

8 ай бұрын

Curry

@asianriceman45

8 ай бұрын

curry respectfully

@T1memachine

8 ай бұрын

curry

Steph won his rings against the goat of his era. Magic won them with the goat of his era

@danyaljeff

8 ай бұрын

Faxxx

@King_hancock

8 ай бұрын

true

@jarebvelasco8955

8 ай бұрын

Real Talk

@4id09_muhsinrafiqooktariza6

8 ай бұрын

exactly

@joshuapaes5914

8 ай бұрын

Magic was the goat of his era alongside Larry Bird. Steph Curry and the Warriors had to go twerking into the hamptons and beg KD to join their 73-9 team alongside 3 other all stars. 2 of Steph's rings are the most meaningless rings ever won and he wasn't even the best player for them, however he was better than people give him credit for.

Magic joined a 47-35 team with Kareem, Jamal Wilkes, Michael Cooper, Norm Nixon and Spencer Haywood. Curry joined a 29-53 team with Stephen Jackson, Cory Maggette, Ronny Turiaf, Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins. Magic had a big advantage from the very beginning as afar as quality of teammates. Magic joined a very good team and made them great. Curry and Jordan joined bad teams and made them great.

@Jordan-wd7vv

8 ай бұрын

i disagree. the warriors were not great until klay and draymond developed. then they were a great team. curry did not make the warriors a great team instantly

@slenduu

8 ай бұрын

@@Jordan-wd7vv Is Stephen curry the best player on golden state warriors team?

@ELI-521

8 ай бұрын

Yet you forget to mention how magic joined this team and instantly became the #1 lmao. You also forgot to mention how much magic made them better and how they greatly benefitted from playing alongside him

@ELI-521

8 ай бұрын

And the warriors didn't become top tier instantly when he joined infact it took them years to reach their peak and their peak lasted for a shorter time while magic joiend they won a chip 1st year and DOMINATED the whole 80s 😂

@ncm2738

8 ай бұрын

​@@ELI-521Curry was injury prone for his first 3-4 years.

Another huge consideration that you didn't mention was the fact that even though Curry has less assists, his gravity because of the lethal jump shot of his makes his teammates open just as effectively as a magic assist

@philwilson609

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely. The gravity of a Steph three point threat is all about the way basketball has evolved. Players today are FAR more skilled than in magic's day, due to international stars and evolved techniques. Players today handle and shoot way beyond in Magics day. No one would need to be guarded and double teamed 30 feet from the basket in 1985.

@vonnguinto7162

8 ай бұрын

That's on point man. A.M Hoops made a great video talking about this.

@josephvernon21

8 ай бұрын

keep making a narrative 😂

@AndYouAre

8 ай бұрын

I also thought he was going to bring up records as a consideration. Curry has the 3rd most records in history. Most of which is due to him making 3's, but he also has free-throw records and has 3 of the top 5 PER numbers in a season that doesn't include Centers. He has the 1st and 2nd best, Jordan the 3rd, Curry again at 4th, and Jordan again at 5th. He also has the highest career EFG% out of anyone not playing the Center position. Then, there's accomplishments that mean more that aren't necessarily measurable. Being the ONLY unanimous MVP in the history of the game is huge. Having records that we can't imagine being broken is huge. Being attributed to changing the geometry of the game isn't small. Even with this, I do take issue with saying Steph is the better point guard. I've got Steph somewhere at #3 to #5 only because of how I see the position. I do have Steph as a better player than Magic and somewhere between #5 and #8 as the most impactful player to have ever lived.

@kayamerrick3907

8 ай бұрын

“Gravity” … 😂 Now we’re just making shit up…

One thing I feel like could be argued, is Steph’s gravity can be thought of as an assist. Obviously super Hard to quantify, but think of how def Elses have changed in general and against him. They Double and triple Team him And all eyes are on him at all times. Leaving teammates open to wide open for easy shots. Steph also took a dead Team and built a dynasty. One could argue he should have another finals mvp over igoudala.

@RushuFriends

8 ай бұрын

I agree with you, but some could argue that defensive schemes have changed so much that you can’t compare

@4id09_muhsinrafiqooktariza6

8 ай бұрын

the reason kd have fmvp cuz everybody focus on steph !!! 3 player just focus to guard stepph asss lol

@johnsonsmithson45

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. The warriors were complete poverty for 3 decades but curry built something amazing. Joe Lacob bought the team for a measely 300 million dollars and as of 2022 Forbes valued the warriors as the highest ranked sports club in the WORLD. Higher then Bayern Munich higher then Real Madrid higher then the American giants with the cowboys patriots Yankees knicks lakers the WARRIORS were #1. And you know why? Steph curry built a winning culture and team

@JC91284

8 ай бұрын

I’ve been saying this forever

@wolvesrevenge866

8 ай бұрын

People tend to forget the warriors were in a playoff drought for soooooooooooo long until Steph came in

Funny how I haven't watched the video yet but know that Curry is the better point guard in his opinion

@theredgarrus5229

8 ай бұрын

facts, and steph isn't the point goat, magic is.

@DeadRebounds

8 ай бұрын

yeah lol hes so biyust if steph says something he automatically changes his mind i was shocked when he ranked steph 7 and magic 5 now steph is better after getting eliminated in round 2 ridiculousl

@keanuwoods

8 ай бұрын

Bro thinks curry is tbe better point guard is crazy

@natank5398

8 ай бұрын

Yeah he is a meat rider😂

@abdulallahi1083

8 ай бұрын

Most people in northern California believe Stephen Curry is the best point guard in the world I mean we watched it first hand and he created this dynasty magic didn't create a dynasty he added to a legacy that was already there

Magic and Curry are different type of point guards. Magic was more of a facilitator whereas Steph is more of a scorer seeking the 3 point shot at every opportunity. On an all time-team, it would be great to see them both in the same backcourt because of their different roles.

@jlui21

8 ай бұрын

-- they are both great. For me, it depends upon team construction. Ultimately, it's like...Salma Hayek or Halle Berry. There's no wrong answer.

@haku4841

8 ай бұрын

Curry is a facilitator aswell due to him being such a threat it allows klay and others an open look eventually cause even with all his movement he’s still a statistically better shooter than anyone

@jingqi9106

8 ай бұрын

@@haku4841 Of course Curry is a facilitator as well as I said in my original comment "more of a...". Curry is actually an excellent passer but his main role is to score.

@andybeardsack7898

8 ай бұрын

@@jingqi9106 lol curry is a above average passer at best, not excellent like rajon rondo or cp3

@vicentepallamare2608

8 ай бұрын

​@@jlui21I'd play with both in their primes

when it comes to scoring titles, we have to remember that steph SAT OUT more 4th quarters than other stars ever, because the games were so blown out by the third quarter. imagine if he did not sit those games out... hed have more points total and maybe two or three more scoring titles.

Something nobody wants to admit is that Magic dominated when the pool of talent was smaller. I have kids in basketball development leagues in elementary and the talent level today is astonishing compared to when I was growing up. Today, thousands of kids are being developed all around the world, much more so than Magic's era. Magic was a shark in a pool compared to Steph being a killer whale in the Pacific Ocean.

@Sniper-Haan

8 ай бұрын

Wonderful marine analogy ❤

@nezoprime4276

8 ай бұрын

Except steph had that same exact talent you speak of right on his team to compensate, one of if not the best defender of this generation in draymond, along side the 2nd best shooter in nba history. Thats not even mention igudoala who won that fmvp in 2015 and kevin durant who carried them to back to back finals and won both of the fmvp. Proving that in 3 of the 4 championships he played in that he was in fact not the most important player

@shormere1612

8 ай бұрын

​@@nezoprime4276 KD won those fmvps cuz the opponents were focused on Steph. Curry just came off of one of the greatest offensive seasons off all time, of course other teams are gonna focus their defense on him. Idk how Iguodala won that fmvp when Lebron literally averaged 36ppg, 13 rebounds, 9 assists.

@Jordan-wd7vv

8 ай бұрын

unfair argument. arguing about eras is inconsequential. curry trained against harder comp and goes up against harder comp. if magic was in currys era im sure he would be just fine. this is not the way to argue which player is better overal

@HooperPremium

8 ай бұрын

Cap. Bird, Kareem, Malone, Jordan, Hakeem, Thomas, McHale, Worthy, Erving, Gervin, and many others is a light talent pool? Please

Magic went to a perfect situation with hall of famer player. Curry went to a losing team and made his peers hall of famer.

@Jordan-wd7vv

8 ай бұрын

curry and magics teams were both elite. thats not a good argumwnt

@itztrimax6795

8 ай бұрын

Why are y’all acting like curry didn’t play with three other hof at once?

@olivervillavicencio9858

8 ай бұрын

@@Jordan-wd7vv magic went to an established team with MVP kareem and all nba worthy. Curry played with rookie klay and green.

@olivervillavicencio9858

8 ай бұрын

@@itztrimax6795 curry was drafted first he played with rookie green and klay. Magic team up with mvp and already champ kareem

@janritz-kun2617

8 ай бұрын

@@itztrimax6795 can you name the 3 hof?

People don’t understand that we’re talking about a point guard and not the goat… Ability to create chances for your teammates and other things contribute but ability to create for your teammates is what makes you a point guard… And to me, they are both up there… It doesn’t matter who is one or two… Personally I pick Steph…

“What if curry had someone like Kareem” as if he didn’t win two championships with the most stacked team of all time

@DarkWolf-407

8 ай бұрын

Yeah but that wasn't by choice. Other than kd no one on the Warriors was considered a stacked player yet. And Kareem is >>>> kd.

@rylanpeters8140

8 ай бұрын

True but magic never won without Kareem curry already did twice

@phillipmiranda5463

8 ай бұрын

Steph has already won without his “Kareem” twice

@rylanpeters8140

8 ай бұрын

@@phillipmiranda5463 magic had Kareem for all 5 curry win without Durant twice

Magic and Kareem are both top 10 players and they won their 5 championship together and Kareem have 1 championship without Magic but Magic has 0 without Kareem.., Kobe and Shaq had their 3 and then Kobe had 2 without him and Shaq only had 1 without Kobe. Curry has 2 Championship without KD while KD has 0 without Curry. And what makes it interesting is that KD has never been in discussion for top 10 all time while Curry has been even before he won his 4th ring.

@nezoprime4276

8 ай бұрын

Thats a good point, but neglecting to mention that he's never won a championship without draymond, iggy, and klay is a bit ignorant. With dray and klay being certified hall of famers at this point

@kristapskittsom8279

8 ай бұрын

​@@nezoprime4276 *Only 3 Players Won Multiple NBA Championship Without A Top 75 Teammates* *STEPHEN CURRY ( 2015 & 2022 )* *KOBE BRYANT ( 2009 & 2010 )* *TIM DUNCAN ( 2005 & 2007 )* *MULTIPLE MVPs, FINALS MVP & SCORING TITLE in NBA HISTORY* *STEPHEN CURRY* MICHAEL JORDAN KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR LEBRON JAMES WILT CHAMBERLAIN *STEPHEN CURRY 7th Player to Win 4 Titles and Multiple MVPs* Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Tim Duncan, LeBron James. *Oldest Players With 30 PPG in Finals* *NBA History* *YRS - DAYS* 1998 Michael Jordan 35 - 117 1997 Michael Jordan 34 - 116 *2022 STEPHEN CURRY 34 - 94* 2018 LeBron James 33 - 160 *Most 30-Point Game in Finals Clinchers* Michael Jordan 5️⃣ *Stephen Curry* 3️⃣ Shaquille O'Neal 2️⃣ Bill Russell 2️⃣ *30 PPG & 2 Steals PG in Finals History* *2022 Stephen Curry* 2006 Dwyane Wade 1995 Hakeem Olajuwon 1991 Michael Jordan 1977 Julius Erving *Only 6 NBA Point Guards Have Won The* *Finals MVP Award* *STEPHEN CURRY* MAGIC JOHNSON JO JO WHITE ISIAH THOMAS CHAUNCEY BILLUPS TONY PARKER

Everyone can pass like magic, no one can shoot like curry

@alyjulmim8447

8 ай бұрын

If everyone can pass pass like Magic, then why isn't everyone doing it?

@willjohnwick6911

8 ай бұрын

@@alyjulmim8447jokic,lebron could pass like magic but no one could shoot like curry simple casual

Great video!! Appreciate you

Love the chapter titles and quotes

I think that is why there is an "argument" for GOAT status. There is merit for both sides. What is guaranteed with Steph's entrance into the conversation against Magic is that Magic and Steph are the bar for being the GOAT point guard, he is moving the others like Steve Nash, John Stockton, and Chris Paul to the category of top 10. Steph will have his opportunity over the next few years to make it go from a toss up to definitive.

Magic always played with a bunch of top notch teammates, including Kareem, Worthy, Byron Scott, A.C. Green, Jamaal Wilkes, Michael Cooper, Bob McAdoo, Mitch Kupchak, etc.

Bro i love your videos-sheeeeshhh😂😂💯🔥

Great video bro

I already know this guy is going to gas up Steph curry as much as possible. Edit: watched the video, bro said that magic Johnson’s passing was basically just him dumping the ball to Kareem

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

yeah hes delusional

To me he already is especially with this 4th ring not because he finally won fmvp but because it showed once again that he can win without kd and ask yourself could magic win without Kareem. Cus the answer was no. And not to mention he should’ve won the 15’ fmvp but that’s another topic. But with another ring and fmvp that would put curry tied with magic with magic having the clear edge in 1 more fmvp and mvp. I think by then the masses will have fully switch over to the curry is the goat PG

@nbahoopsedits

8 ай бұрын

Curry fan

@Brian-co1nr

8 ай бұрын

@@nbahoopseditsdamn right 👏🏽

@joshuapaes5914

8 ай бұрын

Magic did win without Kareem when he was injured in a game 6 performance that many consider the best finals performance in history.

@josuerojas4157

8 ай бұрын

You do realize that Kareem was 32 at the time and you can easily argue that magic extended his career, can you make the same case that curry couldn’t win wo draymond or Thompson? They couldn’t win in 2016 when green. Got suspended, 17 + 18 was probably the best roster ever assembled cause of kd. 22 they won an amazing championship. Your point isn’t fair cause you can easily make the same case against curry.

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

@@Brian-co1nrso corny

I like both. But as you said, Magic has been great from the beginning of his career. As great as a shooter Curry is, a real point guard is to dish the ball, which Magic excelled at.

Warriors did it!! 👍👏🔥🔥❤️❤️ The combination of CP 3, TJD, JK and Dario Saric is exactly what is needed for Warriors, mainly for the non-Steph minutes. If they manage to win those or at least not lose them too heavily, they're in really good shape!! 🙏🙏👍👏

Magic's 86-87 season is GOATED

Well thought-out argument. I was a fan of Magic from his time at Michigan State. He was too good for his team. I watched him fire a cross-court pass to a teammate that bounced off the poor guy's chest. Right in the shooting pocket. Only after he reached the NBA could Magic unleash his full skill set. And man, did he. I loved that era. Kareem. Bird. So many other great players. But I have to say this: today's league is better. Tougher. Talent is better distributed. Players are more athletic. Injury recovery is better. As great as Kareem was - make no mistake, he was the real deal - many of today's big men are stronger and space the floor better. And as good as Magic was on a fast break, he wasn't quite equal to more than one contemporary ball handler in this league. Including Steph. Magic was a better defender; his length and quickness paid off. But there has never been a better shooter in this league than Steph. Both changed the league. Magic with his passing prowess dared players to up their passing games. Steph inspired a whole generation to get better at distance shooting. It's as hard to settle this question as it is to settle any other argument between different eras. We all have our opinions. But I'm choosing Steph. His peak against Magic's, both at their career bests, lets Steph edge ahead. Too bad we can't look at plus-minus for both players. But back then, that stat wasn't tracked, I don't think.

@easybucket

8 ай бұрын

Well said old man

@zeroch1ll150

8 ай бұрын

You could figure out magics plus minus

@Chuckerson100

8 ай бұрын

Great point bro!!

@toptopovaxiv

8 ай бұрын

League is better? It is mostly unwatchable until playoffs and it has more resemblence to WWE than to Euroleague per se. All of the rule changes are improving the show not the game. Despite way better medical treatments, facilities, nutrition etc they are missing way more games than in 80's and 90's. And please don't compare Kareem to todays bigs. Besides Jokic (whom is a product from totally different mindset and part of the world speaking in basketball terms) and Embiid (who mostly tries to score with his face facing the basket), and let's squeeze in Davis...what's left? Sorry but the NBA is one dimensional. Space the floor and shoot the threes

@Urgelt

8 ай бұрын

@@toptopovaxiv the skill level required to shoot 3s is immense. The larger threat of 3s unclogs the paint and makes for a more athletic, dynamic and tactical game. The modern game isn't without its problems, of course. Players forcing trades. Players sitting out games. Pretended injuries. Biased refs. League rules need adjustments. League rules always need adjustments. Players sitting out games, at least, will now affect league awards. That's probably not enough, but it's a start. But there are things the rules have gotten right, too. The game is more popular with fans, more fun to watch. Talent is widely distributed, which just wasn't true in Kareem's day - a few teams dominated everyone else, always. Skills are at a higher level overall, and outcomes are harder to anticipate. I'm pleased with the changes, overall. Though I can admit that further evolution can make the league even better.

Curry

Was going on bro 🙏🙏

Steph is the best point guard period.

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

explain

@eddi3401

8 ай бұрын

Cook

your main argument against magic is that his team was better despite steph putting together the best team of all time and in a separate year going 73 - 9

Oldheads will never accept when who they watched gets passed

Curry is the GReatest Point Gaurd why is there still a Debate???

@hmmmmmm6901

8 ай бұрын

Lil bro can’t even spell

@pakdevil

8 ай бұрын

@@Pooleproduction and you can't spell

@willn8664

8 ай бұрын

He's a shooting guard disguised as a point guard. Similar to Dame. Exactly. Why is there still a debate?

@slenduu

8 ай бұрын

It's still a debate because there haven't been a definite answer to put the debate to its grave.

@nezoprime4276

8 ай бұрын

Because even the reasons in this video are half assed and the only categories steph won in we'rent official or standard but ones made up by hoop reports himself

Bro is always glazing the warriors

You lost me when u had to use Steph's free throw percentage stat to compare to Magic's assists, rebounds and steals to balance things out😂

Can you make a video about Lebron vs Jordan? I wanna know who is better than the two of them. I want you to tackle the: • Statistics (Points, Assists, Rebounds, etc) • Achievements • Versatility and Flexibility • Basketball IQ • Competition (Which era is harder? Does players today really are better than before?) • Does Handchecking really affected the game? • Which era has a harder defense? • What are the effects of Zone Defense in the game of basketball?

Great video!!! I like the fair and balanced analysis. It’s a tough debate. Most people have Magic in their top 5-6 players of all time. If Steph surpasses him in the PG Goat debate then Steph has to be in the top 5, but nobody actually ranks him that high. However, after his last chip I think we have to start considering if Steph is now at this moment a top 5 player of all time??? In no particular order without including Wilt and Bill with me being ok with swapping a few players here and there: 1. MJ 2. Lebron 3. Kobe 4. KAJ 5. Magic 6. Steph 7. Hakeem 8. Shaq 9. Duncan 10. Bird 11. Durant Before his 4th chip I had Steph ranked between 8-12, but now that he has 4 rings you have to put him right up there with the likes of Magic. Do you think Steph at this very moment being #6 is a real thing? If he can give us another 4 years of great all-star caliber basketball and can lead his team to another chip or 2 then I think he easily cracks the top 5 dare I say top 3. Let me know your thoughts? 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

@theredgarrus5229

8 ай бұрын

I disagree with Shaq below Hakeem but other than that this is a good list

@rjc9537

8 ай бұрын

@@theredgarrus5229 Hakeem and Shaq are always difficult one for me. Some days I have Shaq and most days I have Hakeem. I prefer skill over dominance. Hakeem was a much, much more skilled player than Shaq. Hakeem’s skills are right up there with Kobe type skills. But I’m good either way! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

@FallingPenguin

8 ай бұрын

Kobe at 3 is insanity, along with bird at 10

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

delusional

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

kobe #3 LMDAOOOO steph #6???????? bro stop

Is Stephen Curry played in the 80s he would have also save the NBA

@bboyggez

8 ай бұрын

If Steph played in the 80’s, he would have at least 3 more rings and be the undisputed GOAT.

@andybeardsack7898

8 ай бұрын

no, he can't. Larry would woop his ass.

@alyjulmim8447

8 ай бұрын

​@@bboyggezIf Steph played in the 80's, he would be a 3 point specialist bench player. He would not be as effective with the type of defense they were allowed to play back then. Take a bench player from the 80's like Craig Hodges and put him in Currys spot and you would have a better outcome. Hodges was a better shooter than Curry, who simply didn't get much playing time. In other words, Steph would be like Craig Hodges in the 80's and Craig Hodges would be like Curry in today's game. Logic!

@bboyggez

8 ай бұрын

@@alyjulmim8447 Ain’t no way you’re comparing Steph to that scrub. The 80’s defense dickriders are insane lol. With the iso rules back then, Steph is averaging 40. You don’t know ball

@willjohnwick6911

8 ай бұрын

@@alyjulmim8447🤣🤣 stop it Craig Hodges was not a better shooter than curry.curry would dominate the 80s if Larry bird could dominate with his slow ass curry woulda dominate more than he is now casual 🤡 😅

Jxmyhighroller: you can copy my homework but change some of the answers so it looks different HoopReports:

Ik ur using jxmyhighrollers mj vs lebron video as a format for this one. Still great video!!!!

curry has that gravity that you can't let him move or else it's over. and even if you try to guard him it will be a real challenge

Man , that 2022 finals was something... i thought celtics were gonna win.. most balanced team in nba... tatum, brown, smart was dpoy. Klay 1st year back from 2 year injury... steph was basically the warriors whole offense. Celtics threw every defensive scheme at curry.. and the man basically single handedly beat the celtics offensively. Im not so sure magic could do the same in that situation.

@woo_shynen8805

8 ай бұрын

Right. The celtics that year were on it in the second half of the season. Their defense was so great, their offense was good, their playmaking at times seemed elite. I honestly thought nobody would beat them in the nba finals but curry proved me wrong.

@andybeardsack7898

8 ай бұрын

Single handedly? lol? what about jordan poole and klay thompson? they were cooking the celtics too lol, stop steph aint like that 🤣 What happened last playoffs when he's the only man that stood up? Single handedly my ass

@kmao508

8 ай бұрын

@@andybeardsack7898 lol. There were 2 games that Steph basically single handedly won by himself. The team was struggling offensively. Celtics threw everything at curry and he still couldn’t be stopped. If u deny this, then u didn’t watch the series. That 1991 lakers series against bulls… Phil Jackson had enough and decided to put pippen strictly on magic…. That was it, just pippen… had significant impact on what magic could and couldn’t do… bulls win series decisively.

@andybeardsack7898

8 ай бұрын

@@kmao508 But he's not single handedly beat the celtics the entire series lol, Just look what happened when he single handedly his team last playoffs? he cant do shit, he aint like that. He had klay, jp who helped him. Lol u acting like 2022 celtics was unbeatable all time great team lol just stop🤣🤣.

@andybeardsack7898

8 ай бұрын

@@kmao508 u just exposed ur claim by saying "THERE WERE 2 GAMES"😂 2 games doesn't mean the whole series😂 not single handedly, u just exaggerating/overhyping the man😂 can't even single handedly beat the lakers last season when he's the only man who can score.

The debate ends once those in magic era are in their graves.

I believe this is the only case where I’ll allow a co-goat holder, both revolutionized what it means to be a point guard, both won a against their eras of the goat, both are insanely dominant in their own ways, they are both #1 point guards now

It’s like magic is a cassette player and Steph is a smart phone. The magic prototype will likely never be successful again. You have to be able to shoot.

I think at the end of Steph’s career he will definitely be the best point guard of all time. But Steph is also my favorite player, so I don’t think I can say much. 🙂 also great video keep it up

Wassup hoop report❤

steph is the BEST PG ever period. been watching the NBA since the 70s. no one, i mean no one, revolutionized the game the way steph did. he gave hope to players who are physically small and dominate the game. not even MJ was guarded the way steph is being guarded. when steph crosses half court, watch how he is guarded. no one,i mean no one, has that much effect. these are facts.

Chef curry da goat point guard

I don't normally agree with the analysts, BUT, the one point I do agree with them is; "Steph is a "2" masquerading as a point gaurd. He is NOT a true point gaurd; so that should end the debate right there. This isn't saying that Steph can't or doesn't play point, but the job is mainly performed by Draymond, which makes him so valuable to the Warriors. He does all of the dirty work (pun intended) and gets Steph the looks he needs. If Steph was a true point with no Draymond, I don't think Steph and the Warriors would've had the same success.

Can the season start… can’t wait for this… I hope we win this year

its not bias until you bring up what if scenarios lol

For me it’s Steph. He’s more of a killer and can absolutely turn the game around with only a few shots. He’s one of a kind

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

youve never seen magic play and you think steph is more of a “killer” and that makes him better? average warriors fan

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

magic has heaps more accolades than curry, but ig since currys more of a “killer” hes better!!

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

@@omaralmuhaya7503youre goddamn right i didnt watch a second of this pile of shit

@binfrozen

8 ай бұрын

The statistics says different. That can be yo opinion but it’s not a fact

@andybeardsack7898

8 ай бұрын

​@@omaralmuhaya7503 I watched steph curry play, he's not a killer tho, when it matters most he folds.

Go dubs

Nice video. To me, the question of who is the GOAT PG is kind of silly. It depends largely on how one defines a PG and what attributes one values more. 'Greatest' is literally in the eye of the beholder. That said, what an amazing thing it's been to root for the Ws in the Curry era. After decades in the wilderness, it's like a dream come true. Now, go get that 5th ring, young man!

Well we all know who the GOAT content creator is. Amazing upload, as always.🔥

Greatest argument for curry is he literally built a franchise magic came into a great one.

Stephen Curry is the goat PG, no debate

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

than why did he need to make this video? most people have magic #4 alltime, so does that mean steph is top 4 all time?

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

no debate my ass

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

look at the accolades

The fact that you need to cherry pick stats to even have an argument means you already lost the debate

What an excellent deep comparison!

first

Who would you rather leave open? Steph or Magic?

forced debate is clearly magic

If the players you want to compare played in a different era, you have to consider that

Crazy that your list of those in the GOAT conversation didn't include the all time assists and steals leader.

As of right now, steph and magic are equals. Diffrence is that steph still plays (even at a mvp level), while magic already retired. Stephs longevity will edge out magic at some point, difficult to say whan, might be next season, maybe the season after that. But steph certainly will play til he is 40 and will put up great numbers the next 3-4 seasons. Its just a question about time, when he will surly surpass magic, but it will happen

you knew how this video was going to end before you clicked on it. love it though

the way i look at it is “who would i not want to play against more” and its Steph he is a lethal 3 level scorer with great playmaking and because hes such a threat from all areas of the court you have to guard him the second he crosses into half court and his gravity pulls defenses away and helps his teammates get open

That nba marketing department working hard today. This the most rubix cube conclusion explanation I've ever heard this evening.

"Steph didn't start as a starplayer compared to Magic who started from the get go" Really? Is this Magic's Fault? 😂😂😂

Its a reason why the opposition needs to thank God that Curry didnt get Magic's height. No look passes or look away 3s? 😁

There is NO DEBATE. Steph Curry greatest Point Guard without AIDS ever.

with the magic what if with hiv you can also argue what if curry didnt have ankle problems early in his career and the what ifs with the raptors final

My arguments for curry is how he basically invented the 3 pointer, his gravity, and how he played vs a top 2 player in the finals and won 3/4 times. Curry made teams start shooting 30 3s a game instead of like 5. Also don’t forget how he had a double team for the whole game and his team still won (Ik that was college but still they were that scared of him)

I could only say that comparison is the thief of joy . We will never know and evne by numbers because of difference in era and the way of playing. Lets enjoy each of them greatness. We dont need to be so extreme!

This video reminds me of the goat debate video of jxmyhighroller... good job

I love both of them. Two generational players. Can't pick between the two.

its not bias until 10:20 lol

If Curry can get another chip the only argument to make for the debate is your preference on HOF shooting or passing..

@ELI-521

8 ай бұрын

Magic would still have 1 more Mvp and fmvp. Plus there would still be the major argument of magic Dominating the League longer

I can only imagine if Curry had a top 2 GOAT candidate on his team like Magic had with Kareem.

you could pick any modern point guard and their top 3 seasons and make the same argument

I love this channel and their Steph Curry bias. I feel right at home here. Keep uploading, brother

This is easy to answer. Put whoever you think is the best ever at each position. Then imagine Steph being their PG and then do the same with Magic. Which do you think leads that team to more wins over the other one? Imo, I think the magic led team would beat the Steph led team. Magic was a true floor general who dominated the game at both ends of the floor with his size, handle, athleticism, and ability to see the floor (it helps being 6’9”). If Magic had had a full career, he’d be in the GOAT (regardless of position) debate).

Honestly this is a tuff question to answer. The thing is that today’s NBA is 1,000x harder than Magics era of the nba….

I agree.

If we use all the normal comparisons the other guy wins but if I cherry-pick my own comparisons then my guy wins.

Just imagine if Steph has the height of Magic Johnson, STEPH WOULD EASILY DEMOLISHED EVEN THE LIKES OF LEBRON JAMES.

John Stockton, Gary Payton and Allen Iverson should be entered here.

Steph is like Iverson... A shooting guard playing the P.G position...

The fact is that folks that know hoop will create a roster of Magic as PG and Curry as SG. That should tell you whom the better PG is.

The reason this is argued is that magic is the best traditional point guard staff is a unique point guard. He doesn’t average 15 nine and 11 each night he averages more like 37 at 11 each night and so that’s why the comparisons are confusing.

@willn8664

8 ай бұрын

The modern NBA has become more "position-less". The Warriors have a setup with 2 shooting guards in the back court with Draymond doing most of the facilitating in the power forward position hence why some label him as a "point forward". Another example is Jokic. He is a center who not only blocks, rebounds and scores, but also facilitates.

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

uhh he doesnt average 37 and 11????? steph fans love pulling numbers out of their ass because if you actually look at the stats and accolades, it is absolutely CLEAR that magic is better

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

if he averaged 37 an 11 he wouldnt just be the greatest pg of all time, he would be the greatest player of all time

@henryrandolph1422

8 ай бұрын

@@kingvongaming7088 sorry I meant to say 30 and 7

Also look at the teams they were drafted too, swap magic and curry and I don’t think it’s a debate

NBA is also tougher skill wise now

Ill choose curry over magic anyday anywhere😅

Bro what is Steph supposed to say no to the best pg ever? Like huge respect to Steph for having competitive spirit he is the goat pg and he has to believe it that’s like asking Lebron are u good at basketball u have believe in yourself huge respect to Steph!

Please take mvp voting along in this debate, magic has way more mvp votes despite playing fewer seasons. And in the 80s there were also fewer votes...

Magic should be in their own category, based on height. 6'9". Penny, Lebron, Ben Simmons, Iggy (?), Pippen, Bird (?), Luka. Point Forwards Steph is the size of a Traditional Point. (Isiah, PG3, Nash, etc.) I can't think of another point who can manipulate plays, create open shots for teammates without the ball just by running across the floor. This separates Steph from even the Elite Scoring Points (Gil, Rose, Isiah, Dame, Trey...) of any Era

Numbers don't lie. Neither does geometry. Steph changed the geometry, trigonometry, and topology of the game.

@kingvongaming7088

8 ай бұрын

ah yes, hes the goat because of geometry, trigonometry, and topology, warriors fans are something else

@jamesbatcho

8 ай бұрын

@@kingvongaming7088lol casual

I love both of them so I am fine with either of them.❤

Steph gonna close this discussion down once and for all next season by winning another chip 👍👏🥳🥳🔥🔥

I keep seeing "Well Steph had KD so", when Kareem was clearly the best player of his era, the same as LeBron (who most will consider Steph his rival). KD was arguably 3rd best when Steph started ascending. Also, if you think 3 years of Kevin Durant is equal to 10 years of Kareem, then I just think youre hating on Kareem just to hate on Steph. Remember one of those guys has been in the goat convo for about 40 years now. I have Steph for that reason, as well as the fact that he is the centerpiece and foundation of a dynasty. It started with him and will end with him. Winning in year 1 means you joined a great team. Honestly, you can argue point guard semantics all day, I have Steph as the better player