6 NBA Superstars Who Are FRAUDS
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Can any of these 6 players win an NBA championship as the best player on the team?
@legcoolkid
10 ай бұрын
no
@Savage1000
10 ай бұрын
I would add Ben Simmons and Zion because they both are never healthy
@dvdv8197
10 ай бұрын
Nope.
@ultraemmit1063
10 ай бұрын
No.
@user-uz9qx6fe4w
10 ай бұрын
@@dvdv8197 DEFINITELY Ben Simmons.
I cannot comprehend how James Harden is not on this list
@amirnikpouri7798
10 ай бұрын
Because that one is not a surprise
@LILDroidDEX
10 ай бұрын
Haha lol so true
@ballsandbeats5922
10 ай бұрын
Because we all know that Already. Haha
@Pastorturns60
10 ай бұрын
What are you talking about 😂😂😂
@karl-heinzjean-francois8554
10 ай бұрын
Everybody already know that he not that Good😮
How Harden didn’t make this list is beyond me
@trobtx3538
10 ай бұрын
because he isnt a fraud bro he is just a failure now XD its expected for him to fail now sooooo cant really be a fraud anymore lol
@avriiikijs
10 ай бұрын
It was hard to watch him play in the playoffs 😭
@LILDroidDEX
10 ай бұрын
So true 🤣🤣🤣 lol
@innerhammer
10 ай бұрын
Because at this moment he is just a carcass of a superstar.
@mrboast2826
10 ай бұрын
Hey at least he already went to conference Final and final not like other MVP who not even past second round in last few years
I agree with all of those except Trae. The fact you had to go back to last year to make your point seems iffy. He is not the reason the Hawks suck in the playoffs or suck in general for that matter.
@iluvdissheet
10 ай бұрын
Hold up.....Trae is the franchise. So yea if they suck, kinda falls on him if he isn't elevating his game or his teammates. Ima take a guess that you don't believe the rumors about Trae so have you ever considered why the Hawks can't seem to get anyone to come and play with Trae? Why NBA players call him the most overrated? This is a team game and if other players don't want to play with you, even when you're an all-star, says alot. This is exactly why Dame isn't on this list and Trae is.
@maximefontaine7891
10 ай бұрын
not to mention that Trae's defense is atrocious.
@TheOfficalPaper
10 ай бұрын
Trae is majorly overrated. Someone on another video said that he is the second best point guard of all time and the whole reply section agreed with him💀💀
@maximefontaine7891
10 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficalPaper what? He's not even the best Hawks PG of all time. Lenny Wilkens is way ahead of poor Trae.
@syfj.
10 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficalPaper he is overrated asf lmao
Another big problem with Embiid is that hes always injured
@fadercreek
10 ай бұрын
yeah cause his dumbass wants to be a guard
@mrboast2826
10 ай бұрын
Even he not Injured , he barely contribute anything...
@petasmith6258
10 ай бұрын
And another problem is he's a sook who likes to throw teammates under buses. He won't win a championship until he grows up.
@samb123078
10 ай бұрын
The Process was centered on tanking and drafting injured players to tank more. Can you really expect injury prone players to suddenly not be injured when it counts?
@arikejoja9461
10 ай бұрын
@@samb123078 no
Joel has so much talent yet can even make it passed the second round
@Sy-kv6hy
10 ай бұрын
He is soft on the leg. Cannot imaging mvp can not beat 40years player
@tmmnago2722
10 ай бұрын
Can or can’t?
@SleepyRPGman
10 ай бұрын
Coaching matters in the playoffs too.
@MelachiDubNation2531
10 ай бұрын
Doc ain’t coaching him no more, so if Joel still doesn’t make it past the second round, well….. 👀
@08C6PaceCar
10 ай бұрын
Then blames his teammates
I wouldn't go as far as calling Kawhi 🖐️ and Mitchell 🕷️ frauds, but I get where you're coming from. One of them is a two-time champion and a two-time finals MVP, while the other just had his best season and showed everyone how versatile he can be on offense.
@Dilly_Dil1y
10 ай бұрын
Mitchell ain’t no superstar. But kawhi yes. I consider superstars as game changing players.
@laurocoman
10 ай бұрын
@@Dilly_Dil1y Kawhi hasn't done it in years.
@tribalypredisposed
10 ай бұрын
I agree, Kawhi is less deserving of this list than AD who has only had one good playoffs and is also frequently injured himself.
@iamtheonlywilly
10 ай бұрын
I think Kawhi was but he’s lookin like a fraud and maybe because his situation is not talked about. He’s so quiet.
@bxkid119
10 ай бұрын
He should of put Westbrick and probably beal
I Personally think the Trae Young pick is a little harsh. Dude literally runs the court practically by himself :/. Ja and Zion I would say need to be here over Trae. Otherwise don’t have much to argue with everyone else especially Randle and KAT.
@lukashandanos5040
10 ай бұрын
From my view he deserves to be on this list. He plays one way and can’t see/accept that his teams can’t win in the playoffs if he’s the one monopolizing the ball. His teammates have taken subtle shots at him (heurter and John collins) and he got his coach McMillan fired. Personally I wouldn’t want him leading my team if I was a hawks fan
@iluvdissheet
10 ай бұрын
Ja and Zion issues are off court...so they aren't frauds when it comes to the game. Trae is an all-star that nobody wants to play with. That's really the problem.
@TheOfficalPaper
10 ай бұрын
@@iluvdissheetExactly, no one wants to play with Trae because he is a one dimensional player with no defense whatsoever. He also doesn’t have the best off the ball movement.
@hyabberhane
10 ай бұрын
Why tf would Ja be here?
@pastasoo
10 ай бұрын
Who are the 45 idiots who liked this lol. Neither Ja or Zion are frauds, they are just childish and dealing with their offcourt issues. Neither of them are anywhere near bad when they are actually playing, regular season or playoffs.
Kawhi is no fraud, his body is just fragile
@abone2pick
10 ай бұрын
He could play he just plays it safe to avoid long term injuries
@BH-wq6mc
10 ай бұрын
Kawhi just needs one more championship and FMVP and he equals Lebron's special 3 championships, 3FMVPs, in 3 different teams. So how can there be so much difference between a player in goat conversation and a player in fraud conversation?!!
@ernest_donki6488
10 ай бұрын
Yes
@ernest_donki6488
10 ай бұрын
He is just totally injured
@svk_5104
10 ай бұрын
@@BH-wq6mc because this stint in LA right now has been TERRIBLE lol. You can’t compare Lebron and Kawhi because everywhere Lebron went, he played and delivered. If Kawhi can’t figure out how to stay healthy and have some deep playoff runs these next few years, it will have HUGE negative effect on his career and legacy. I do think calling him a fraud is too far though
I don’t think anyone thinks that Randle is a superstar 🤣
James harden needs to be on this list. No disrespect to the man but he just keeps choking.
@svk_5104
10 ай бұрын
He’s not on here because it is widely known he’s a fraud and he is FAR past his “superstar” years. He’s considered a washed up “superstar” now so no need to put him on this list
@hyabberhane
10 ай бұрын
@@svk_5104Harden isn’t washed
@svk_5104
10 ай бұрын
@@hyabberhane alright, he’s not completely washed but he’s definitely not a superstar anymore and he never fully shows up in the playoffs when you need him to. Just look the last years in the playoffs, dude chokes in big games
It’s almost like teams play better defense in the playoffs. 76ers have no 4th quarter strategy in close games. Their offense becomes stagnant. You can’t ask Embid to take 10-15 foot jump shots over and over again, and think it’s going to work against good teams. Doc Rivers is an overrated coach, and he proved that during his tenure in Philadelphia.
I say Mitchell will 100% improve his playoffs stats next season
I really like your videos man keep up the good work😎
The hardest part to deal with Joel is the fact it's always someone else fault. Never his therefore he can never put his crap together. He kept getting hurt at the start of his career because he ate like trash and was always semi out of shape. Which is the dumbest problem for a big man. It's career ending for a big man to fool around like that and the only reason shaq got away with it for so long is he was on REALLY good put together teams when he was running for chips.
I don’t agree with kawhi being on this list but how could you forget James Harden ?
love da vids hoop reports❤❤
i feel like trae shouldent be on this list, he was horrible last year but played really well against the celtics and was the only reason they won a game, he fuels the entire team and everything usually goes through him so its a lot harder but he really stepped up this year
@TheOfficalPaper
10 ай бұрын
He played well against one team and y’all praising him💀
@bated2815
9 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficalPaperi mean against the celtics? the team who was favored to win it all?
Sheesh 2 videos in 24 hours? Nice!! 👍👏🔥🔥
Embiid tends to blame everybody else or everything else except himself. That tells me more than anything about a lack of championship mettle. The only thing that stands out about Kawhi now is his laugh.
A superstar is someone who has consistently been in the top 5 of mvp voting, dominated in the playoffs and LED their team to a title.
Fraud is far too extreme a word to use for these players. They're good b-ball players, by any measure. They're playing at the highest level of the game. They are valuable to the franchises who employ them. They draw fans. They just aren't the best. They don't have a higher gear for the uber-competitive playoffs, or they're injury-prone. When other teams ramp up the effort, they can't quite keep up. 30 teams. 1 champion. All others are also-rans. It's a tough league. Any of these guys would run any of their critics off the court. They aren't scrubs. But they aren't champions, either. Except for Leonard. He has stepped into the winner's circle. Once.
@Wilcat1033
10 ай бұрын
Well Said! 💡🧠🏀
I think there are only 5 superstars in the NBA. Giannis, Steph, Lebron, KD and Jokic. A superstar must have won an MVP, have popularity outside USA, maybe a shoe deal/jersey sales and is available/dependable.
@Gweedoe831
10 ай бұрын
I’m a golden state guy but luka is a super star or at minimum on the verge
@kingcort8073
10 ай бұрын
@@Gweedoe831luka aint on that level of being a true superstar..He’s somewhat in between star and superstar
@tombleencomedian1935
10 ай бұрын
@@Gweedoe831 Luka is borderline to be honest. But he's a star. One MVP and he will become a superstar.
@PajserRocks
10 ай бұрын
@@tombleencomedian1935 hmm so westbrick over luka ok lol :D
@danielukandu42
10 ай бұрын
@@PajserRocks not only mvp but Luka will need to accomplish more than just an MVP an MVP just going to increase his career resume little bit closer to Westbrook and any players
I'm more interested in why they disappear in the offseason
Zion. Ben Simmons, and Deandre Ayton
@salembiama3444
10 ай бұрын
At their peaks Ben Simmons and Ayton weren't considered a superstar and Ayton isn't even a all star. You could argue zion tho.
@ChocolateThunderZeke
10 ай бұрын
They were definitely frauds
How can karl anthony towns be a fraud? He "changed the game" as the "greatest shooting big-man of all time."
I just don't understand how kd isn't on this list like people call him a top 15 player of all time bc of his 2 finals mvps but both he needed a superteam for and he literally can't win a ring or do anything without them
Can you do the leagues most underrated players?
Without even looking: Embiid is in this.
@dvdv8197
10 ай бұрын
With a look: hah, told ya! 😁😁
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@svk_5104
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bro why is Tatum not on the list my guy looked so lost in the heat series same goes for harden other than the game 1 game winner against Boston.
Warned some Cavs fans they would regret that trade with the Jazz for Donovan -- they gave up way too much by including Markkanen. He isn't a good fit with Garland, dominates the ball too much, and gets torched on the other end of the court. He must have nightmares featuring Jalen Brunson.🙃 Elite scorer but doesn't really make anyone around him better.
Hoop report is a superstar of basketball channels
@tet4174
10 ай бұрын
hell naw lmfao
this season is very exciting, hope every star team stay healthy for the fans ❤❤❤
Kawhi is a good player, he just doesn’t want to play dangerously because he has a history of terrible injuries
I think labeling a player as "fraud" is a little harsh. True, some players are great during the regular season and all but disappear in the Play Offs but that doesn't make them frauds. Disappointing, under achievers, over rated or even chokers perhaps but not frauds.
6:57 That was also an amazing defensive team he played against, Trae young got clamped that series, every other season he played great!
@kiro_memes3111
10 ай бұрын
Yeah...only he did. He's a ball hog and can't seem to comprehend that for the team to success he has to play team ball. When you're an all-star and nobody wants to play with you, there's a reason for that (aside that he's very one -dimensional and has terrible defense)
FRAUD is too much. I think a more appropriate title is "6 NBA Superstars who are just STARS" because fanbases can still call these players LEGIT for helping the franchise enter the playoffs. Kawhi shouldn't be in this list coz he's got rings--- dude just struggles to stay healthy.
Haven’t watched yet, but Joel Embaaby had better be on this list
U shud have a part 2 of THIS!!!
Guessing a whole video will be dedicated to Ben Simons
No time to watch right now but Curry better not be on here
These Players are fraud they haven't proved themselves yet
Damn i had no clue embiid was the first one til the face reveal
Bro did not listen to my past comments about the Warriors and now he snuck in a thumbnail of Steph 😭😭😭
You’re big tripping on Kawhi. Already won it as the man. His health definitely removes him from a top 5 active player discussion but he’s leagues above the others on the list.
Just noticed it while you were discussion Randell don't mention and highlight the effective FG percentage during the regular season and then compare it with the "normal" FG percentage during the playoffs that's just bad statistics and disingenuous.
Why do u put Steph on every single thumbnail lol
1. I can’t figure out how James Harden is not included on this list. He had two good games against the Celtics, but two good games doesn’t get you a good series. 2. The fact that Klay is not on this list is absurd. He went from one of the greatest shooters of all time in the regular season, to a second string shooting guard on the charlotte bobcats. 3. Trae is not a fraud. He was going against the Celtics, and he didn’t really have much help. He wasn’t amazing, but he definitely doesn’t qualify as a fraud. 4. Kawhi is not a fraud, he’s really good, but he just gets injured. That’s not his fault. He can’t control his injuries. If he stays healthy, he will become a force in the playoffs.
Actually, Embiid IS the first person who comes to my mind when I think about fraud superstars
I'm surprised you really don't mention that dude that cannot drive in his left, his name is Jaylen "I cannot drive in my left" Brown
I think we need to define the label of Superstar. There are tonnes of Stars. Less than 10 Superstars.
biggest problem with Embiid is that he can't play game after game so he get worst
In the regular season, no one has time to prepare for Embiid -- and he can dominate an unfocused defense. In the playoffs, teams design defenses to stop him -- mainly timely double-teams that force him to make decisions. He gets frustrated, he makes bad decisions, he can't adjust, and he underperforms. (Maybe Nick Nurse will help.) Jokic is the exact opposite -- because of his passing skills, court vision, and ability to dissect the defense like a coach on the floor. He adjusts to the defense and attacks the weak points, whether it is single coverage or double, zone or man to man. Spoelstra, one of the best coaches in the league, can attest to this. 😂
Kwahi should never be on such a list after his Raptors post-season heroics
Joel Embiid is that hes always injured playoffs
I don't get it. How do you define fraud? I was thinking of something else other than decrease in performance in the playoffs.
Thought Edwards was a bad pick as #1 since the T-wolves do that all the time. But he's settled down and was impressive in the playoffs. Looks like T-wolves guessed right on him.
DMitch deserved a spot he was just inconsistent during the regular season also.
Half of these guys are not considered superstars imo. The guys that I consider superstars are first options on a championship contender/an mvp talent. Trae young, Donovan Mitchel, Julius Randle and KAT are not that. Also, you forgot James Harden
For a second Duncan reminded me of Ben Simmons. 😂😂😂 sorry Tim for the disrespect.
I thought you gonna add Chris Paul.. but I'm NOT sure either. And Ben Simmons is in a different category on his own. So how about • James Harden • Anthony Davis (same reason why Kawhi is there) • John Collins • DeAndre Ayton • John Wall (maybe not, bec he's currently out of NBA)
@kiro_memes3111
10 ай бұрын
The entirety of the Suns roster fits in this video
Can't wait for Solz and Sage reaction lol
Don't forget defence during playoffs is not the same like in the regular reason
Mitchell doesn't qualify. Your argument was completely insufficient. He had two great playoff runs, one decent one, and one mediocre one in the past 4 years.
Calling Joel Embiid a fraud is crazy dude. Philly would be so bad without him. Jimmy Butler should be here, not Embiid.
Ben simmons, zion williamson, lonzo ball, dillon brooks, james harden
WOW great video! Mr.HoopReports explains and gives reasons why these basketball superstars are overrated.
For context, let's not throw the word superstar to some all-stars. Agreed with the Embiid take. I don't consider Randle a Superstar so I can't say he is a fraud. But from the Knick's perspective, maybe he is one. Mitchell is also not a superstar. Not from his days as a Jazz certainly not today with the CAVS. Trae is still an upcoming all-star. Not yet categorized as a superstar. His name is tied to LUKA because of the draft thing hence, I see why you would see him that high. Leonard was a superstar. Maybe, not anymore nowadays because of his injury bug problem. Kat is just never considered a superstar. Every take on his before was for his potential. Nothing to speak of if he even reached the status of superstar even halfway.
This list is legit but I wouldn't go as far to say Kwahi is a fraud, mainly bc he's actually led his team to chips- his body is just fragile nowadays. Harden and Luka definitely need to be on this list
Hate to say it. But when we going to address Klay?
@MelachiDubNation2531
10 ай бұрын
Klay don’t deserve the hate, he’s not even considered an all star anymore 🤷🏾♂️
@sosophunktup
10 ай бұрын
@@MelachiDubNation2531 true and I’m not really hating: but considering Poolrs treatment and contribution vs Klay I feel like Poole gets a ton of heat that Klay is spared
@MelachiDubNation2531
10 ай бұрын
@@sosophunktup Klay gotten heat too especially after he shot 3/19 from the field in game 6, it’s just that Poole was performing more worse than Klay, turning the ball over, making way more bad shot selections, always tripping over himself whenever he’s dribbling the ball etc. 🤷🏾♂️
I know Randle didn’t step up in the playoffs but the Knicks as a whole did and he was certainly a part of it. I would def put Harden over him.
How can you call someone averaging 20+ points, 3 blocks, 10 rebounds and 3 assists in the playoffs a bum
Julius Randle isn't a superstar, but he would make the BEST 2nd option and is a solid all-star. In some other interview he said that the jump to being the first option was a bit difficult because of the opposing defense's focus. If that's the case it's not that he's a fraud, it's just that he isn't really a superstar like the likes of Jokic/Lebron/Curry and shouldn't really even be on this list.
Where is he now?
Pascal caught a stray on that trae list
Replace Kawhi with Jim Harden and your list is goated
Jaylen Brown your next video Hoop Reports 🙏🙏🙏
KAWHI?! dont...just dont do it to the 2x finals mvp who knocked out my superteam warriors in 6 games...bro is not ok if u think kawhi is a fraud hes crazy clutch and tends to win as long as he's on a solid team (sorry pg...) Yes he hasn't been playing much but give him a break he's getting old
You really only looked at offensive stats and compared regular season vs playoffs. Regular season everybody is averaging almost 120 points a game. Playoffs you will get an opponent who qualified for playoffs, yeah. And everyone plays defense in playoffs. And the other teams are working harder to shut down these particular players. And you get several games in a row to scheme against a teams weaknesses and pick apart a scorer. You didn’t talk about defense on these guys and if they were difference makers or weak there. Plus… a lot of dudes hardly ever or never see the playoffs. So they can’t qualify for your list. The list is interesting. I just take issue with calling them frauds on weak comparison. I’m not a massive fan of any of these guys. But it seems disrespectful to call them “frauds” based on this. That’s my take.
1.) i disagree with you on the joel embiid being a fraud. He did pretty solid in the finals including last year as well. His teammates didnt do good, thats why they keep getting eliminated in the 2nd round. 2.) julius randle is not a superstar... he's a star but not a superstar in the nba.
Zion, James Harden, jordan poole for sure, Kevin durant when he isnt with steph curry, jayson tatum after almost losing to trae young, dejounte murray who was supposed to bring the hawks to the promise land but flopped the entire season. those are my frauds.
Calling kawhi fraud for his injuries is such a low-blow
When james harden is not in this list I quit, the Guy was 1ma scoring machine in regular season but in playoff,in clutch time... No way leanord is on this list man
James harden,Kylie I, R Westbrook, A Davies
Can't put Ben Simmons here.. he's in a whole category on his own.
How Kawhi is up here instead of Harden, dude has suffered injuries
Good stuff. Some big calls but your arguments are fair. Assuming Harden isn’t on the list because he isn’t an actual fraud, there is no deception, he is just bad.
James Harden Should be No. 1 on the list 😂
Asking if any of these 6 can win a ring as the best player when Kawhi is already a 2-time champ and finals MVP with different franchises is both stupid and disrespectful. Even with 'load management' injuries can't be avoided and while the other 5 are fair enough what about Harden, CP3 or Westbrook who've never won rings despite many chances on various stacked teams, or can they no longer even be construed as superstars? Anyway, I love your channel and content but the Kawhi take is so ludicrous my final comment is simply SHEEEEESH!
Kawhi has 2 rings and 2 finals mvps. To say he never shows up is hyperbole to the extreme.
My list: 1. James Harden 2. KAT 3. Leonard 4. Trea Young 5. Jason Tatum (can't drive left, and Jalen Brown often has better games than him) 6. Ja' Morant I'm sick of people even bringing Zion into the conversation. He hasn't done anything, hasn't won anything, and is always injured.
@throw_dem
10 ай бұрын
Bro jaylen brown is the one that can't go left lmao
@throw_dem
10 ай бұрын
Jayson Tatum has better basketball iq than brown
How was James Hardens name not mentioned one time……
Trae Young & Kawhi are no frauds ! Also why Harden is not on the list ?
Who didn’t think that Donovan Mitchell’s shilouete looks like Lebrons. Am I the only one??
If donnovan mitchel isn’t here I don’t want to hear it
Ben Simmons isn't a superstar. Just wanted to get that out of the way
kawhi has been injured.. you cant blame em. You might not believe in curses but it doesn’t matter cause the Clippers have a curse of every superstar they acquire.
Make a Top 7 and include that joke of Harden.
Kawai should have stayed in Toronto. Him trying to be Lebron and building his own team definitely did not work.