Why do we rarely ever hear about the Ottoman Empire's violent conquest of Southeast Europe? Why isn't their attempt to conquer Vienna ever talked about?

Islamic rule over Sicily lasted from 902 until 1061. During this time Christians paid the dimmi tax. Were not allowed on a pavement when a muslim was on the pavement, were not allowed to make eye contact with muslims, were not allowed to ride a horse and were only allowed to ride a donkey. Christian women could be abducted and raped with no redress. Christian men could be humiliated and tortured for sport. Any goods could be taken if the muslim desired them. Very similar to ISIS today. Norman Knights retook the Island and overthrew Islam. The same was true in all lands where muslims ruled Christians. The Crusades sought to redress that imbalance and strike a blow for Christianity.

@robertrobertson7129

7 жыл бұрын

Truth but the PCSJW simply dont want to hear it. It is THE inconvenient truth !

it was a counter crusade , the scarf wearing throwbacks went on 400 year rampage till the Christians decided to fight back

thank you for the lectures! not a theology student, just a seeker of interesting information and I am grateful to have stumbled upon your channel. have already watched 10 or 11 of your videos. you have a great reading and lecturing voice, and the sound production is spot on. keep up the good work!

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ben! Always a nice encouragement to hear these type of comments!

In Thomas Asbridge's book on the First Crusade, I remember reading about two points you didn't address: 1. The Byzantine emperor had been asking the West for assistance for a while, and stories of pilgrims being harrassed had been told on and off. The trigger for Urban II to call for the crusade when he did could also be seen not as an immediate response to an urgent call for help, but as a move in the Investiture Controversy to gain more prestige relative to the Holy Roman Emperor. Which worked out as intended. 2. The Crusade couldn't have been carried out without Byzantine help, and the Byzantine Emperor wouldn't help the crusaders unless they committed themselves to handing any reconquered Byzantine lands back to him. Therefore, this contract says little about the crusaders' goodwill towards Byzantium; it could just as well be they had accepted the condition grudgingly. Also, on the People's Crusade: they were an unruly mob, and they did include some trained fighters. They massacred Jews in the Rhineland before actually moving off in the direction of the Middle East. This gave them a terrible reputation, which prompted the King of Hungary to refuse them passage - which he had the means to. So in the end the mob is forced to turn back. Later a smaller, but well organized force arrives to seek passage through Hungary; the king grants them passage under escort to keep them from damaging his country. What are your thoughts on these points?

I absolutely love your videos, Ryan. They're clear, concise, historically accurate, and the visuals are fantastic. Thank you for putting so much hard work into this film. I'm a student at Denver Seminary, and I've recommended your videos to fellow students and friends.

@RyanReevesM

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Santiago // Thanks, man. Very kind. Denver is an awesome school and a great city. Was just there doing the Cru national training last summer. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you (or anyone there).

@kevinsantiago5787

8 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Reeves will do!

Ryan, I cherish your work, it is quite incredible... thank you from the bottom of my heart!

This is fantastic. I love the commentary. You give a human/pragmatic perspective, which my college books don't.

I heard little about Byzantium in the run up to the battle of Manzikurt in 1071, which resulted in the complete loss of the Asia Minor hinterland of Byzantium and which necessitated the Crusades. Before the death of Bazil II in 1025, Byzantium was by far the strongest political entity in the Middle east. Bazil's big problem had been the strong Bulgarian empire that sat above Byzantium in Europe below the Danube. His conquest of this strong empire lead to Bazil being called "Bulgar Slayor", but in addition to this, Byzantium had pushed its eastern border from the Tarsus mountains which had been the stopping place of Islam's initial conquest to several hundred miles east, extending all the way to lake Van. Historically control of this region AND northern Iraq was the key to controling the rest of the western Middle East, including Syria, Palestine, and Egypt. So several of history's most decisive battles take place here, including Alexander's Guagamela and Ottoman's Childeron (which lead to the conquest of Egypt two years later). So in a sense, upon the death of Bazil II, Islam was in the process of balkanization and Byzantium was re-emeging as the local super power. The balkanization of Islamadom created a power vacuum which Byzantium was extremely well place to fill and thus reconquer all that it had lost to Islam several centuries earlier. Keep in mind, at this time, most of those lands would still be about 50% still Christian as well. The strength of Byzantium = what kept it from being overrun by Islam was the sytem of Themes that it had created in Anatolia, which was Greek speaking at the time. The Themes were organized around farmers, who were awarded their lands in exchange for military service. This was an ingenious system. Since between planting and harvesting farming is not a full time job, this left time available for military training in Theme militia's. Because the farmers were protecting their own lands, this gave them something to fight for. As the saying goes, you pay people to fight but not to die. This explains why the Islamic system of rading then conquering never succeeded in Anatolia. This system of themes also explains why Byzantium might not have been too aggressive in filling the political void created by a crumbling Islamic political system in the Mid-East. The Themes were essentially defensive in nature, and while the soldiers may have been willing to fight and die to defend their lands, they weren't that willing to leave their lands far behind, untended, to fight in far away places - so the expansion eastward was not rapid. Nevertheless the Theme system essentially made Anatolian Byzantium radable but not conquerable for Muslims armies. And as the strongest state in the Region, Byzantium merely needed to expand just a little more to the south of Lake Van to be in position to easily win back Syria and Egypt. Yet the reverse of that happened. Why? Bazil II died without an heir. Control of the Empire fell to two rich aristocratic families in Constantinople that had gained ascendency in the Byzantine Bureaucracy. They had their puppet(s) installed upon the throne. Moreover they undid the system of the Themes. The did the math and realized that they could take over title of the lands, force the farmers as serfs to work the lands, while the wealthy aristocracy took title, control and profits from the land, and leaving plenty of money left over to hire a huge mercenary army - all of this being much more advantageous to the wealthy bureaucratic aristocracy in Constantinople in terms of adding to their wealth. The problem was that the mercenary army was never up to snuf. The military capacity of the Empire atrophied rapidly. Many astute Byzatines were concerned. Eventually, but only belatedly, a strong Emperor was put in place and he began to rebuild the army but the rebuilding was far from complete when the battle of Manzikurt was fought. Meanwhile, in Central Asia, the Turks had been converted to Islam and had begun to coallesce around it and conquer just as the Arabs had in the sixth century. The failure of Byzantium to fill the political void of the balkanizing Middle East, attracted the Turks who nominally came to fill the void to pretect the Caliph in Baghdad. While the crumbling Middle East vaccuum is what drew them into it, the big prize was Egypt, still controlled by a powerful political entity. Like any power interested in invading Egypt, they had to shore up their flanks in the vincinity of Northern Iraq and Lake Van. The Turks sent into this region a force that was a little more than a reconanssaince in force in order to shore up their right flank in preparation for an assault on Egypt. The Byzantine Army that they encountered, while much improved from earlier times, was still not up to meeting and defeating the disciplined Turks. Because the elimination of the Themes meant that there were no secondary local militias with a stake worth fighting for in Anatolia, the entire Anatolia, surprisingly fell to the Seljucts, taking them right up to the straights across from Constantinople. In the years that followed, the Turks took Syria and Palestine but failed to take Egypt. In their zeal as new converts and defenders of Islam, they persecuted Christians attempting to pilgrimage to Jerusalem. In a repeat of what Islamic Arab conquest did to North Africa, Turkish pastoralist migrated their heards and themselves into Anatolia, where Islamic law made it illegal for a non-muslim to disallow the pastoralist and their heards from grazing on their land. This destroyed the farming economy of Anatolia as well as altering the landscape (foliage) and Turkifying and Islamifying Anatolia permanently. Just like with Spain, it was perhaps the geographic feature of the straits sepearting Europe from Anatolia which prevented mass migrations and mass turkification of South Eastern Europe. After 20 years, the Byzantines realized that they did have the strength to eject the Turks from their former lands and led to them asking for help in the Crusades. In the mean time, the Turkish political entities rapidly began to balkanize once again as the Arab empire had done. When the Crusaders finally came they faced a less organized resistance than the Seljucks had first presented. This allowed for the success of the first crusade. But still this projection of power from Western Europe was overly extended without proper follow up. The follow up was muddled and eventually the movement collapsed several centuries later. But the main reason for the crusades is what happened inside Byzantium between the death of Bazill II and the battle of Manzikurt. And that really isn't talked about here.

@bobmartin7068

7 жыл бұрын

Tim Kane Thank you for an insightfull narative on the missing parts.

Learnt so much about crusades, great video. Looks like I've found one of those hidden gems of KZread. Greetings from Turkey.

I was a little disappointed at how quickly the events and players of that era were skimmed over but as a quick overview the video is quite good. For those interested in a fuller and richer picture of the extraordinary personalities and events of the First Crusade I recommend the writings of Steve Runciman.

@RyanReevesM

8 жыл бұрын

+Peter Kogler // Yeah just a survey course lecture for first-timers. I agree that the Runciman books are great. Ideally this simple 30,000 feet view will make people go for great books like that.

Okay, the Urban pic was hysterical! BTW, very grateful for these lectures. My brain was going to mush in the soul-sucking corporate world. I found myself falling into the KZread conspiracy world to escape drudgery. And though much better than television, KZread conspiracy channels offer little reprieve from the horrors of "working for the man every night and day."

As someone who has had crusades declared against my family in the 13th-15th centuries, I was ready to take you to task for a biased and phony diatribe. I am pleasantly surprised at the factual and even-handed presentation of events. Your entire series (so far) is a study on par with Eugen Weber's "Western Tradition". Please continue your endeavor. This professional Geographer has become a fan of your story.

@thecrow7

7 жыл бұрын

would that be the cathar crusade?

thank you Dr. Reeves for making these videos. I've watched several on your channel and really enjoy them.

The siege/battle of Antioch is one of my favorite historical battle stories

I don't remember the Crusader's targeting for traditional sites of Islam such a Mecca. I do remember Jihad's overrunning traditional site's of Christianity. I don't see Christians at fault for launching the Crusade's they merely were trying to re-claim lands that were lost around 800 A.D. Islam didn't even exist during Christ. I'm shocked how Muslim's are portrayed as victims when they are the one's who came as foreign invader's.

@foxmancometh

8 жыл бұрын

+amdturion123 How could you remember, you've been through alot since then.

@dutchman7623

8 жыл бұрын

+amdturion123 People convert easy when they protect their live and family. So do not think they were all foreign invaders but many probably converts who would convert to christianity as soon as christians would be the ones in charge.

@magistrumartium

7 жыл бұрын

Jesus submitted, but he didn't acknowledge Mohammed as God's Number One Prophet (since Mo wouldn't be born for about 600 more years), so he wasn't a follower of Islam.

@robertrobertson7129

7 жыл бұрын

Truth and well said...and I am an old history teacher..again Well said.

@davidzyskowski3506

7 жыл бұрын

amdturion123 God told Abraham to go to go to the Holy land and take it over, killing all the people who lived there. The PALESTINIANS. The Jews stole that land. Abraham came from Ur. It's all evil. Believe in the real God. It's called Nature!

I need to make this clear as so many get this wrong or simply don't mention this important large fact. The muslims or the moors invaded europe in 885 aprox. the muslims and moors. Moors to the south of Spain and the muslims from Iraq the middle east and arabian peninsula, took over Spain, Italy and eastern europe and expanded. They took advantage of europe being almost decimated by the plague that took about 1/4 to 1/3 to the population. Europe was in no way able to fight back. That fact is almost constantly omitted as a historical fact or importance.

@bobmartin7068

7 жыл бұрын

jack g Not all of Italy only Sicily.

Ever lecture is as good as the last! Must listening for every believer. Thanks Ryan!!

TAKE IT FROM A PRE HEATHEN. YOUR LECTURES ARE ACCEPTABLE. IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER AND IN SUCH DEPTH, SO RICH OF INFO I WATCH THEM SEVERAL TIMES AND PLAY BACK BITS TO TAKE IT ALL IN. HISTORY IS WONDERFUL FROM ANY ANGLE. THE VISUALS--ART WORK ARE BEAUTIFUL TO SEE AND WITH THE NARRATION A COMPLETE PACKAGE. YOUR A VERY LEARNED MAN. OH DIDN'T YOU KNOW. THANK YOU FOR WASTING TIME ON US. TAKE CARE GARE

I can't believe I'm just now discovering this channel. Great stuff! And since when has GC had a Jacksonville campus?? Very cool!

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Been in JAX about 11 years. :)

I was intrigued to hear that the speech Urban II gave didn't mention the holy land at all and was in fact only asking for military aid to byzantium, but I then watched part of a documentary on the crusades from an Arabic perspective where they put real fire and brimstone stuff about retaking jerusalem and the holy sepulchre into Urban's mouth. Confused by this I thought I'd dig deeper and found that the chronicle of Fulcher of Chartres tells it as you say, but the account of the Gesta Francorum and several other sources which may have used the Gesta as a source make it very clear that the holy sepulchre was to be liberated. Presumably you've discounted the latter sources but could you please explain why? Thanks.

...am really enjoying you're videos. I am glad to have come across them today.😆

This video helped me out a lot with my school. Thank you!

On the whole, I found this to be interesting. Bravo! 👏

Good job Ryan! I'm comparing your take with Joe Hogarty's take on the Crusades.

Love your videos, but you say that the Templars were the first monastic order to emerge, but the Hospitallers became a military order one year prior to the establishment of the Templars (and established 20 years earlier). And in the Levant (holy land) they were mightier than the Templars. And most of the Templar wealth came from banking.

I'm a big fan of The Crusades, as it was a noble and Holy endeavor.

@bobmartin7068

7 жыл бұрын

Johnnyc drums Yes that is the truth ,but these gutless backstabing traitors are trying to rewrite history , to appease the muslim hordes, they cannot be appeased, they will only settle for total capitulation.There is 1000 years of history, of murder, rape and slavery imposed on the eastern part of Europe and north africa.

@bobmartin7068

7 жыл бұрын

1969cmp How about tge slaughter of everyone in the city of Constantinople by the muslims from turkey at the beggining of the ottoman empire.

@bobmartin7068

7 жыл бұрын

1969cmp If you had paid atte,ntion to the earlier part of the video, he said Jerusalem had not been under jewish ownership for 400 years , conquered by the Romans and then the Islamist tribes , the jews had been slaughtered or driven out long before the crusades ever happened.

do you have one on the spanish inquisition? and if not would you do one i want the low down on that.

Is there not direct lineage frot he knights hospital to the Knights of Malta today?

Thank you

NICE

Was Peter Bartholomew who found the Holy lance really called Peter the Hermit like the guy who incite the peoples crusade? If yes; Are they the same person or was there just two important people in the first crusade who happened to both be called "Peter the Hermit"? Great video btw

who is hyped for ck2 holy fury. i am. very good videos man. bless u

Your lectures are really excellent. I was wondering you can create a video on Roger Bacon ,the scientist. Keep up the great work.

@RyanReevesM

8 жыл бұрын

+Jon J // Thanks! I don't have a stand alone on him yet, but I do cover him in the context of the early Enlightenment here (starting about minute 19:00): kzread.info/dash/bejne/dph2lqaze7ffkpM.html

@tallthinwavy3

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Will look at it and wait for your excellent lectures.

@tallthinwavy3

8 жыл бұрын

I was referring to Roger Bacon 1214-1294. A brilliant English medieval monk scientist. Sorry for any confusion.

@RyanReevesM

8 жыл бұрын

+Jon J // Oh yes, THAT one. :) He's on the list of videos I want to make. Not sure when, as I've got plenty in the works, but at some point I want to do an entire history of philosophy series and he'll be on there.

@tallthinwavy3

8 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear of it. Thanks again. Can not wait to see it.

What about the organize vagrancy of the IV false crusade?

The Franciscan Brothers, at least in the U.S., won't walk away from a fight either. They like to crash rich man Catholic weddings for food and wine, much to the dismay of their Priests, and that is why we love them.

Great videos, new sub here ..

Thank the Normans ...

that was funny using urban Meyer, humor makes it more fun to watch

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

I try not to take myself too seriously! Too many historians suck the humor out of things, but I hope I'm not one! :)

@reddevil1030

7 жыл бұрын

You are doing a great job at keeping the videos entertaining I do agree most historians are boring to listen to

Thank you for this history lesson. i'm not interested in modern Asia Minor or Middle East politics, just some facts. I had a course in The History of the Byzantine Empire (during the third crusade) and had avery hard time with it.

You mentioned the expectation of the coming of antichrist. What are the Catholic beliefs concerning antichrist, both then and now?

Excellent vids. Now they should put you on tv as you state only facts. 1st Crusade was simply to protect the lands of Eastern Roman Empire. People tend to forget that these lands before Roman times were influenced by the Hellenistic age so from Syria, Egypt, Palestine, Coastal Anatolia, Greece, Southern Italy and Sicily they were living in a Greek speaking and cultural influence lands it simply was the norm even if they were of different ethnicity. The Turks came in first to conquer these lands and major cities that were prize cities since ancient times.

at 10mins, did you mean 1025 not 1125?

@RyanReevesM

9 жыл бұрын

Bob Sponge // Yep...classic hiccup of saying 11th century and then the date back to back. :)

Western christendom does not highlight the British Islands. Why ?? (5:45)

Actually to be technical the first "Crusade" _(to enforce church creeds and dogma) was the war against the Arians (non Trintarians) and the Jews in the 4th century under Constantine.

Did Europe benefit from contact with Muslim world? I read that the Muslims had preserved and studied the writings of Aristotle and Plato, and science and math was brought to Europe and enabled the renaissance

Ill tell you who shows up early for a crusade....

i'm skeptical and wary about a theological college's professor teaching me religious or church history....there are just so many opportunities to slant events in favor of the church. but i suppose knowledge is available from a wide variety of sources, and all of us should try to keep open minds about it. i still double-triple check the information, though...being an atheist who strongly distrusts anyone church-related ;) i still like these vids though. lots of good info, and if nothing else, they're good overviews for further study and investigation.

@thirdtooth4069

8 жыл бұрын

+roflmows I totally get that, but I honestly feel that RR is pretty unbiased. He's had many opportunities that I know of to taint the information and he hasn't (again, that I know of). You gotta keep in mind though, we live in a pretty anti-christian world I feel, Christianity has allowed itself to be criticized without serious backlash and as such has exposed itself to even greater criticism and greater scrutiny. The low-hanging fruit so to speak. So it may seem suspicious because of how polar opposite the common conversation is, but the information RR presents is warts and all, he never claims that the church has been all good.

Is it true they allowed ex-convicts and prisoners to join?

@dutchman7623

8 жыл бұрын

+ja jane Yes, and no. Those who sinned could get a 'holy church' pardon for their sinns, and maybe enter heaven after death. But there were no jails in the Middle Ages... imprisonment as a punishnent did not exist. People would be locked up until convicted. Punishments were: being banned from the village or country, paying the damage and compensation of suffering, pilgrimage, public shaming and a lot of body harm. (Whip, stick etc)

Aww yeahhhh, here we go! How many crusades will you be going through?

@RyanReevesM

9 жыл бұрын

The major 4 but I tie it in the end to the ongoing 'crusades' against the Albegensians, etc. But the big 4 are the focus, ending with the Children's Crusade.

@tcironbear21

9 жыл бұрын

Ryan Reeves I am looking forward to your take on the 4th. As John Green says "It was the crazy one."

Let me be a smart aleck! The reason for the crusades can also be found with the Venetians! Some half century bofore the actual first crusade they wanted to start a Holy War to free the silkroad! But then decided to go for Jerusalem. During the many crusades they managed to become the economic victors over Byzantium and also very rich. Here the modern finacial Punch and Judy show was invented in Europe. (see: Will Durant - the Story of Civilization - Volume 4 (somewher in the middle) or: Webster Tarpley - Against Oligarchy)

In fact you had three Christian if not four groups, Byzantine, Latin, Oriental (non Chalcedon), and possible Nestorium, each suspicious if not hostile to the other.

Why don't you just say what this stuff is really all about and not mice poo? It's racial, Jews and Muslims are the mixed multitudes and Whites are the Israelites and we have been fighting the same war for millennia. That's what the Bible is really all about as well as the Midgaard SERPENT and the Heroes, who are the Saints. It's all the same story, just told in different ways like a game of Telephone.

I love the opener with Clinton, Bush, and Obama speaking against religious extremism: three of the most immoral men in modern politics opining on spiritual matters! Just reinforces the message that confusion about spiritual and religious matters is rampant in the world today. And on another note, please dont call Islam a "Faith." It is a superstition, a religion, but there is no element of actual Faith there, because there is nothing but Sharia law there. Islam has no savior and no doctrine of Salvation by Faith, only an empty promise of justification by works based upon the ravings of a human (Mohammed) and not any revelation directly from God. Besides that, great video.

@Andreas-hh9yg

8 жыл бұрын

+The Sharper Sword Hehe, the believer in an sky wizard critcises the believers in an only slightly different sky wizard. Great.

@TheSharperSword

8 жыл бұрын

thomas muster Youve been reading too much Dawkins. Wake up, look around, your world is collapsing. Will you continue to deceive yourself that your sin and rebellion are not being punished by the Almighty God? We live in Biblical times, and Christians know this, while the rest of you are losing your souls and your minds in the most sad and pathetic failure of civilization the world has ever seen.

@Andreas-hh9yg

8 жыл бұрын

The Sharper Sword "Wake up, look around, your world is collapsing." Not at all. We live in the best times humanity has ever seen: There never was less war, less violence, lesser starvation, more security, higher life expectancy, lesser child mortality than in these days and worldwide. Educate yourself: www.gapminder.org/ "We live in Biblical times" Not at all. In biblical times the invisible sky wizard has shown "his" power all the time: "He" commited genocide, divided seas, killed women, children and man, turned people into pillars of salt, appeared as columns of fire. But suddenly, after the bible was written and compiled "he" disappeared and was never seen again.

@TheSharperSword

8 жыл бұрын

thomas muster If you think the 20th and 21st centuries have been paradise on earth, then youre deluded beyond hope. Talk to some of the people who witnessed 9/11 or other terror attacks around the world and see if they agree with you, or the millions of child sex abuse victims, or the billions living under totalitarian oppression in China, North Korea, Iran, and so on, or Veterans from World War 2, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, and so on, who witnessed death on the most horrific scale ever seen since the Flood, or the millions of regular citizens who are enslaved to drug addiction, pornography, and other sins, who live meaningless, materialistic, emotionally empty lives like pigs in a pen. You are certainly blind to the truth, and this is why: "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed [Antichrtist], whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thessalonians 2:7-12; KJV). "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God... Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth... Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived." (2 Timothy 3:1-4, 7, 12-13; KJV).

Christian history through a Christian lens

This people did not do what some of the population in San Francisco are now doing in the streets.

*DEUS* *VULT* Sorry, couldn't help myself...

David that is krapp. Palestinians do not have any legitimate claim to Israel or that land. They were descendants of a Bedouin tribe Called the houitat from Arabia. The original habitants of that area Were the canaanites. They were defeated in battle by the Jews. This is where Joshua gained his fame.

i had respect for what you are saying entill you said "i'm christian" Biased! sry

@RyanReevesM

7 жыл бұрын

I prefer a world where respect comes from listening for bias rather than assuming it's there.

@Zeupater

7 жыл бұрын

+lars mertens Everyone has a bias because everyone has a unique life experience. I think the only way one can begin to compensate for bias is to first identify it.

@SuperCarrot-yv7ku

7 жыл бұрын

Also, it is naive to assume someone is speaking without presuppositions, and disingenuous not to announce them. Typically, many Christians may announce them upfront (which is good), while other don't, still have them but claim they don't or just as bad actually believe they don't!

@XXGDUBSXX

7 жыл бұрын

Because disregarding someones historical account based on their religion isnt a form of bias at all you ignorant hypocrite.

Well actually Christianity was built by the blood of other believers in christ. The blood has coagulated in the walls of today church and that is why our churches are so pretty. trust me I was a christian for 30 years. When I needed help they told me I wasnt good enough because I wanted to have sex and be I wanted to be successful in my carer. they called it blashphemy and idoltry. Your better off being a buddhist.

@TheSqaull17

7 жыл бұрын

sounds like you had a lot of legalists around you, and not christians. or you were in the roman catholic church. but, if you actually read the bible, it says that you can have sex, but with in the context of marriage. and if you want a career that's not a bad thing, but also use it to glorify God, and preach the gospel.

@christiancassarly673

7 жыл бұрын

Not true. Christianity is based on Sin. Sexual shame. A Governmental tactic to control your mind. They use your sexual force to contr your thoughts. Marriage creates divorce most of the time. Your wrong.

That you miss out the little detail that the invading Crusaders slaughtered every man woman and child in the newly liberated Jerusalem is a bit, well, disingenuous to say the least. This relates directly with the reason Nicomedia was captured so quickly, something else that was glossed over. The vast majority of the population of Nicomedia were Christian inhabitants who had remained there under the rule of the vastly out numbered Muslim conquerors. Sure, you can't mention just EVERY detail, but how two opposing armies treated their captives is a telling sign of the nature of the army and the ideological flag they fight under. So, in short: • The Muslims take over a city and the population remain largely intact, worshiping their usual god and generally unmolested. • The Christians take over a city and have a genocidal blood bath. I find that point too relevant to miss out.

@bobmartin7068

7 жыл бұрын

leif keane That is pure lying propaganda, the muslims conquered Byzantium and murdered everyone in the city, except the children who they kidnapped and sold as slaves.

@leifkeane

7 жыл бұрын

Shoot man... I think you might be a few hundred years or so out. The First Crusade (1095-1099) Fall of Constantinople - 1453 Unless you're aware of this and you're just cherry picking history... Gosh, could I pick out some doozies! My references in the comment, however, were contemporary.

@leifkeane

7 жыл бұрын

Oh, and I got the information used in the comment from a Christian-point-of-view book. I can't remember the title off the top of my head, but I can look for it if you want me to. Just let me know.

@leifkeane

7 жыл бұрын

Read what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. Don't fall in to the trap Bob! Your bigger than this!!