This is definitely the winning format. I get so fed up of tv ‘dramatic reconstruction’ getting in the way of a good historical discussion. History is so complicated already without extra visuals and noises being thrown in. This gives more space to concentrate. Thank you so much for these videos.

@SlytherinsConspiracies

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, long-winded history documentaries have so quickly become outdated.

@austinlittke5580

2 жыл бұрын

I loved the White Queen, it was extremely historically accurate also...the historically accurate part is a major necessity for me, otherwise any historical drama is a non-starter for me

@ethanstrong

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. However, series like “The Last Kingdom”, “Ottoman Empire”, “Empire Games”, “Roman Empire”; I love the visuals with the subjective commentary being narrated. Like we were always told early on in school, you can never know more than the book.

@plp50000009

Жыл бұрын

Yes^

@marquisdelafayette1929

Жыл бұрын

Idk I kinda like them if they are done appropriately. Like the History Channel did a three part series on Grant based on Ron Chernows bio of him (he also exec produced it and was in it and Leonardo DiCaprio produced it as well)... sometimes for military purposes it’s easier to be able to visualize when you see it. But they also did a three part series on Washington that was great as well. Probably the only decent thing they HAVE done in the last decade. All from Chernow, since it was based on the bios of them by him.

I like this. Two guys sitting in a small room, surrounded by BOOKS, talking history. No gimmicks. Just discussing and sharing information. 👍

@Veit_Justin_Schuster

Жыл бұрын

No crazy tv show with cuts every 3 seconds. xD

@carlplz00001

4 ай бұрын

Tea of coffee was missing.

Dan Jones is one of the best history communicators I've ever heard speak. Thanks for letting him do his thing and educate us while using your interview position to simply guide the discussion.

@GLC2013

Жыл бұрын

"Alt right?" It's sad when the Chinese-funded Democrat conspiracy to topple Western Civilization by hijacking & propagandizing every school, news agency and TV network in America and Europe is so successful, a whole generation considers anything NOT part of this radicalism "alt right." Hey Dan Jones, why don't you keep your distorted political attitudes to yourself and stick to the subject, eh?

Snow.... Jones..... The two British Titans of Dan-dom!

@Bpaynee

2 жыл бұрын

This is my first time on this channel, and between the description calling them the two Dans and something about this editing style on KZread, I was really confused if this was just one person interviewing himself (I have a hard time telling faces apart if they're not side by side) 😂 Thanks for helping me out with this comment!

@chrislaw4189

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bpaynee Wtf they don't look similar

@iulia1690

3 ай бұрын

That's racist :))

"We don't talk about the Fourth Crusade." 🤣 Fantastic overview of the Crusades and the history.

@Dragonpuncher123

Жыл бұрын

That’s the best one though. Such a shitshow!

@flouisbailey

Жыл бұрын

Now I can work this into conversation, “we don’t talk enough about the 4th Crusade”, what do you think?

@MsSteelphoenix

Жыл бұрын

@@flouisbailey I'm simply not a good enough conversationalist to just slip that into a discussion about the weather... but if you can, you absolutely should!

@flouisbailey

Жыл бұрын

@@MsSteelphoenix I have a friend or two who I think I can interject this. As you said about your new 40 inch computer screen, we don’t talk enough about the 4th crusade, a real shitShow don’t you think. LOLing the hoped for look on their faces.

@1967MLP

25 күн бұрын

good , yes, fantatic? , no

As someone who's never looked into the crusades in any real depth before, this was immensely helpful both to understand a little bit of the history and historical context, as well as reframing their significance for the modern context. Absolutely fantastic!

@Tom-mk7nd

2 жыл бұрын

It's a fascinating subject, sadly it's often misrepresented and oversimplified

@christinastclair7715

2 жыл бұрын

There are a lot of falsehoods and propaganda in this segment. I would do my own research if I were you. Dan Jones is notoriously anti-Christian.

@danpozzi3307

Жыл бұрын

As a history lover I love hearing in depth analogy. I love the fact that he started with the Muslim conquest all the way into Europe that stirred the Hornets nest.

@Peaceful_Gojira

Жыл бұрын

@@Tom-mk7nd I get sick of the ol "ah holy warriors huh? burning villages sounds so Godly. Christianity therefore bad!!" I'm like...ah and your ignorance of the bigger picture, just from that 1 little piece of nugget history you've clearly consumed, is why you will remain ignorant to truth. Forget not, everyone is imperfect...therefore we are always subject to doing the wrong thing, despite the intentions. Templars were a notorious example of what to do, and what NOT to do for ones faith. By no means is this my way of saying "Christianity, or die", but rather to understand the mindset of the Templars (as Dan explains thoroughly here: schisms in the Eastern and Western churches about Papal succession was a big issue, as well as the remission of sins, and so forth). At any rate, I think it's important we all always look deeper, rather than close the book and claim we know all. Ignorance is the death of truth, and truth is the ignorance of death. Cheers. Be safe, be well.

Absolutely loving these extended sit down interviews with a Historian!

@marabo12

2 жыл бұрын

ye I love it. AND IT*S FREEEEEEE

@Vairyehil

Жыл бұрын

And Dan Jones is one of the very best.

@ShawnJonesHellion

10 ай бұрын

Dinosaurs an Santa clause is even more thrilling an exciting than the bankers following jesus story here

Love how this guy can communicate things in a clear and interesting way. I read his book “the templars” and to spite not knowing much of the subject before reading, I came away with so much knowledge and was hooked!

@sparticale1954

Жыл бұрын

Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner kzread.info to cut throgh the BULL.

@ShawnJonesHellion

10 ай бұрын

Every week a new revised version of history is being sold. So by now you are 20 versions outdated (making an absurd assumption this an these comments weren't just created an backdated a year like so much of the world).

The 2 Dans work well together in this remote interview. They have the knack of breaking the subject down and presenting the informational in a straightforward entertaining and informative way that manages to harness their enthusiasm for the subject. So refreshing when compared to the po faced historians we've been used to on TV for so long like the insufferable David Starkey

This was seriously one of the best breakdowns I've ever heard on a complex topic like the Crusades. Damn knows his stuff and how to make it make sense. Thanks for letting him gush. Subscribed.

Dan Jones is very knowledgeable about the Crusades - I learned a lot

Wow. Fascinating and well explained. Honestly, this is the first time that I was able to see Dan as a true scholar and historian rather than a TV presenter, who typically have just a passing knowledge or limited interest in a subject. Much respect.

These and Snow’s monologues have really kept me busy lately. I love listen to the solo stories or monologues when going to sleep at night. The two person interview like this style makes my brain too active to sleep at night lol. Keep it up! Great stuff from HH lately.

God I love Dan Jones. I’d devour a series by him on the crusades, especially if it’s as well acted and edited as his Plantagenets series

@GeezNutz

2 жыл бұрын

Hell I'd probably devour him too. ;)

@vegangainzhue4548

2 жыл бұрын

By the sounds of it you'd devour his package too

@hellixx256

2 жыл бұрын

Why can I only upvote once, this comment is exactly how I feel

@Tina06019

2 жыл бұрын

I’d listen to Dan Jones read (and riff on) the phone book.

@kbflorida888

2 жыл бұрын

And these two together - home run. Could you imagine sitting in on a lecture hosted by this duo. Standing room only!

Marvelous! Just finished the Crusaders book and it was a complete study of the characters, politics, religion, and personal stories for those times. Loved it!

I love Dan Jones. His book Crusaders is an outstanding read and couldn't put it down cover to cover. Wonderful having him on History Hit. Hope to see more of him. Thanks very much to The Two Dans

That was awesome, so informative and interesting. Thanks very much to Dan Jones and the channel.

Love it when the two Dan's get together 👏

@Siegbert85

2 жыл бұрын

Get Dan Carlin here to complete the holy trinity

@shane3906

2 жыл бұрын

these two are excellent, can listen to them for hours.

@Malikin

2 жыл бұрын

@@Siegbert85 I was going to say this lol

@stephengraham5099

2 жыл бұрын

Dans, not Dan's

@philski217

2 жыл бұрын

@@Siegbert85 the episode of Carlin’s podcast Jones just went on a bit ago for his book is a good one

This man/these men know their topic. No power-point, no script, no gimmicks. Just brilliant.

Love the format. Immensely insightful while being informative. Humorous too. Thank you

Intersting thought on Columbus and of course brilliant conversation. Thank you.

This is the best kind of lecture in that Mr. Jones just presents the fact in a wonderful story

Love this channel, keep it up guys, spend my working days listening to this kind of stuff 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

My 2 favourite historians. I’m excited to see what this video has to offer!

Dan's documentary on St. Patrick was one of the best documentaries I've ever seen and I've seen a multitude of them over my 60 years. He is really good at this...

Dan Jones is far more than just a TV presenter, love it!!!

Thank you for highlighting this. Just picked up the book and eager to dive in!

I love hearing these two talk about history.

I listened to the whole thing, and while I knew most of it, it feels refreshing to hear someone put it in such a simple way. Love the interviewer for guiding and not controlling the interview and Dan Jones did a fantastic job at keeping clear what he was talking about without falling on specific anecdotes or such things.

Great video! The reaction when talking about the Fourth Crusade is spot on 😂

Thank you for doing this one. It was so timely. Brilliant.

Like the conversational format of this video. It's informative yet relaxed. Thanks.

This was great. I read Crusaders and was amazed at the amount of research and information uncovered in those far away times, and how Dan Jones put it all together in cohesive form. Another of his books is Power and Thrones, which is worth a read too.

@LittleHammer_

7 ай бұрын

Great suggestions I’ll definitely read both

So happy these guys are sharing this knowledge.

Greatest historian bromance ever. I'm 💯 here for it! ❤️ you two and @HistoryHits!

Excellent documentary. Many thanks for your clear (and deep) explanations!

I really enjoyed his work on the Templars. Totally absorbing and well-researched, yet written almost as a novel.

@christinastclair7715

2 жыл бұрын

Dan Jones sells falsehoods and propaganda, not accurate information.

What an easy to understand, succinct explanation!

"Sackcloth wearing Dominic Cummings" 😆

Brilliant to have the crusades described. Thank you

That was a nice little summary, you can tell the depth of his knowledge

@meme4one

2 жыл бұрын

Someone once said "if you can't explain a subject simply, you don't understand it". Very true in this case.

Loved this!

Big fan of Dan Jones first time on the channel definitely subscribed. Good work.

I'm happy to see the Crusades in such a clear format!

I think of the historiography of the Crusades like that of the numerous conflicts between natives and settlers here in the US: not nearly as many villains as you've been told, far fewer heroes than you think, but a helluva lot of victims.

@dewd9327

11 ай бұрын

victims being other Christians half the time

I just finished reading Dan Jone's excellent book "The Plantagenets." Such a great and accessible writer of history.

@Redladyanna

Жыл бұрын

I suggest you read his other works such as The War of the Roses.

@chrisramsey6725

Жыл бұрын

@@Redladyanna literally finished it a few days ago

Dan Jones is such an impeccable Historian, one of my favorites.

Thanks for this!

Other upshot of the Fourth Crusade is that the Venetians totally obliterated their only major Christian rivals in the eastern Mediterranean and cemented their power and wealth for another 300 years

@allangibson2408

2 жыл бұрын

And guaranteed the rise of the Ottoman Muslim empire…

@alexandernelson724

2 жыл бұрын

@@allangibson2408 The Ottomans wouldn't even exist for another Century. Naw, the Byzantines did that themselves. The Second Palaiologan Civil War was the final nail in the coffin that reduced them to an effective City State for the final century of their existence to the benefit of Serbia and, yes the Ottomans who defeated and conquered them. When the Fourth Crusade took place the Empire was already on the verge of Civil war and Collapse having lost more than half its territory during the prior two decades, and immediately descended into civil war the moment Constantinople fell. A healthy empire doesn't collapse the moment its capital falls to a relatively small force. If it wasn't the Crusaders it would have been the Bulgarians.

@allangibson2408

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexandernelson724 The fourth crusade gutted Constantinople and installed a Crusader king in place of the Emperor. That set the stage for the Ottomans to take over a weakened state.

@thewitchking852

2 жыл бұрын

@@allangibson2408 This. Constantinople was the rock Byzantium was built on. The romans throughout the medieval period suffered disaster after disaster but were almost always back. This is largely due to the stability and wealth that the massive (comparative to any other city in Europe) city of Constantinople provided. With the city gutted, the Palaiologoi were working in a no-fail situation with no fall back like say Alexios Komnenos (who got crushed at Dyraccium and just used the wealth to hire a whole new army)

@WFASPigeonGang

2 жыл бұрын

The Byzantines actually deserved it. They just ratted every neighbor they had until that moment.

A lot of good info and a fun interview. Very enjoyable. What I would advise for next time is don’t edit the questioner in asking questions and maybe do a side by side interview using two cameras, one for a long shot and one for focus. It’s a bit jarring when y’all swap as it feels like a really rough cut.

@robwright1286

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I don't think they're in the same room tho if you look carefully they're probs looking at computers.

Amazing, fun,interesting, educational conversation..never lagged..didnt move too quick...great job guys!! New fan!

Fantastic stuff Dan. I’ve just finished your excellent book and visited the holy land. Jerusalem amazing and Acre fascinating. Also went to horns of Hattin, Jaffa and Arsuf. I’m obsessed with the whole period. Thankyou

I do feel the fourth crusade is supremely underrated and not talked about enough. It is probably the most important crusade (though arguably after the first for being the first) because of it's overall lasting impact. The fourth crusade really did set up the Roman (Byzantine) Empire to collapse. The rise of the Ottoman Empire was enabled in large part because of a weak Byzantine Empire... The Ottomans would take over Constantinople and begin to take control over the final leg of the silk road before Europe which will drive Europeans to find new routed to the east. The Ottoman Empire would also be the big scary giant in the east. The crusaders did a lot to create the rise of the ottoman empire in unimaginable ways... All from destroying a Christian city.

@shonamcwilliam4171

2 жыл бұрын

You should join in with their next video. Very informative. Thanks

@Hugh_Morris

2 жыл бұрын

Horrible when you think about it. Europeans being Europeans, always infighting, sealed their own fate.

@Peregrin3

2 жыл бұрын

True, it should be better taught, especially because it is also one of the most misunderstood crusades, the common view is that the greedy crusaders just decided to sack Constantinople for the heck of it, that is actually completely wrong, in fact, if certain political factors hadn't taken place in Constantinople its self there was a very good chance it wouldn't have happened at all, it was a very complex political mess which was in no small part the fault of the Nobles of the Byzantine Empire, another little known thing is that not all the Crusaders participated in the siege, many refused and continued on to the Holy Land, another thing not commonly known is that the Pope canceled the Crusade and Excommunicated everyone who took part in the siege as soon as he found out.

@rockstar450

2 жыл бұрын

@@Peregrin3 A great majority of the Crusaders did take part in the sack which ravaged nuns in churches, burnt acres to the ground and crippled both the Romans and the Latin is in the long term. I the whole saga was started by greedy Venetians who were willing to take money through blood. This was meant to be a Christian mission and there is no excuse for pillaging and innocent city. Byzantine instability is what a lad for this but nobody ever thought anyone could be so disgusting as to go through with it

@Hugh_Morris

2 жыл бұрын

@@xplicitfishin not exclusive to Europeans no

It's always a pleasure to see these guys discuss history. The Middle Ages come alive! I've watched the "Bloodiest Dynasty" four times and it works every time. Acting, French being spoken, costumes, and good production values make a huge difference.

Great format. The close up camera angle really enthralled me. Especially with such good speakers.

Started watching this channel after you sponsored an Age Of Empires 2 tournament! Please do another one so more people find this great channel!!

Thank you for this informative video. I do think Mr Jones needs to add the "problem of noble violence" to his explanation. Lots of Europe but particularly France had been atomised in this period by armed men setting themselves up in castles and squeezing the local people for loot with extortion and violence. These men are typically noble, often second, third sons (etc) with no inheritance - but also any other man at arms or bandit who can afford a horse and armour. Attempts to limit this rapacity by the Church (the Peace of God and Truce of God movements) failed. So, these men needed to be channelled somewhere and, when Byzantine Emperor Alexios issued his plea for help, Urban II had somewhere to send them.

@mujtabamustafa2284

Жыл бұрын

Never knew that thanks 👍

@nazirkazi2588

5 ай бұрын

Interesting, seems logical. I wonder if there's any commentary at the time of this problem?

Dan: "The Third Crusade? Everybody knows about the Third Crusade! This is Richard the Lionheart and Saladin!" Me: You are absolutely correct!

Very interesting breakdown. Thank you very much!

Thank you for your crusade , quality programs.

Because I was unlearning as much as I was learning during this fantastic interview, I kept using the jump-back-10secs button to repeat parts. Which is how I also learned Dan Jones has the most fantastic facial expressions; they truly are a marvel in paused frames. Also duuuuh I'm a little face blind & I thought these were the same Dan so it's nice to have 45 mins juxtaposing them.

This was very interesting talk 👍 although I was hoping that the Children's Crusade gets a mention as it was probably the most bizarre notion for them all.

@wewenang5167

Жыл бұрын

yeh and tragic....what a sick minded people luring children to death lol

This was fantastic! Now I've got to find and read the book!

Great video, thank you! On a technical note the volume in the video was very low for me, had to crank laptop to max volume

The thing that is so often overlooked I find is that Christendom had been on the backfoot for centuries against the Arab/Muslim world. The story of Byzantium between the 7th and 11th centuries is one of near-constant warfare with Arab states, and for most of that time the Byzantines were on the defensive. The Near East was conquered by Arab armies centuries earlier, fuelled by the zeal of Islam. It wasn't like the Crusades invented religious wars or were even the first example in that region. It seems like vital context to me and it's seldom mentioned in any great detail.

@jbo4547

2 жыл бұрын

Because its taboo to be honest about Islam and how it spread, by the sword, unfortunately.

@jacobholladay4182

2 жыл бұрын

There's no taboo around the honest discussion of Islam; it's just that more often than not, that "honest discussion" is really just a tool for right-wingers to shit on brown people.

@EmileA266

2 жыл бұрын

@@jbo4547 there’s a big difference between honesty about Islam of that time vs projecting modern Islamophobia onto those times… Back then, Islam did spread violently through conquest of massive amounts of territory. People were murdered, tortured, raped, and all the other terrible things that come with war- particularly in medieval times. Several caliphates splintered or collapsed over petty power struggles as leaders were assassinated and as sectarian lines began to take shape. Islam also happened to be the center of learning in an area that stretched from Britain to Iran. Baghdad and Alexandria in particular were extremely well-known centers for learning and scientific advancement. When the Muslims conquered Spain and Portugal, they reintroduced ancient philosophy, advanced building techniques, and they brought vastly superior medicine and irrigation methods with them. Muslim Spain actually had a fairly high tolerance for Jews and Christians (who paid an extra tax in lieu on conversion to Islam), as opposed to the Spanish Inquisition that followed the Muslim period. So yeah, turns out war is bad, whether waged by Muslims or Christians, conquest kills and warfare exposes the worst in humanity. It also appears that Muslims are people, so they have the same internal hypocrisies and power struggles that Christians do. But if you know what you’re talking about, and you were forced to pick between living in 11th century Paris vs 11th century Baghdad, you’d be a fool to not pick Baghdad. Just like how you’d be a fool to not pick 21st century Paris today over 21st century Baghdad.

@dimel1347

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone who blames crusaders for fueling "war" is simply lying. The arabian offensive took the entire christian east, the entire christian northern africa and their successors even managed to reach and besiege Austria and Spain. AUSTRIA...Does any of those people know where Austria is? Because it doesnt get any more central than that. How can anyone honestly shitft the blame to some lousy crusades that targeted 1/2 cities at best when the other side literally took over continents after massive invasions? Crusaders were failed responses to an increasingly losing battle against the caliphats and their successors.... Nothing more, nothing less. The only meaningful crusade that had a lasting impact was the 4th crusade...Yes, the one that invaded Constantinople and destroyed the christian Byzantine empire, which helped the Ottomans finish the Byzantines off, a few years later. Nice one fourth crusaders...I guess it counts as a success in the most backwards way ever.

@TacticusPrime

2 жыл бұрын

Gang murderers also occur within a context of other gang murders. That doesn't excuse gang murder.

I completely agree with DJ about HRE Friedrich II (Hohenstaufen) -- aka "Stupor Mundi" ["wonder of the world"]. I urge that he be retroactively awarded an honorary Nobel Peace Prize for the 6th (non-)Crusade. He achieved by peaceful means and negotiation with the Muslims in their own language (he spoke 6 languages fluently) what other Crusades and Crusaders could not achieve by force of arms. Friedrich II deserves to be remembered -- and deserves the Peace Prize a lot more than some recipients in recent years. If he and the popes had hit it off a bit better, he might have gone down in history as one of the greatest leaders in history.

Look forward to this channel expanding on this video in the future. thanks historyhit.

Got Dan Jones’ Crusaders book for Christmas. I’m loving it so far

Also I’d love Jones to cover the Children’s Crusade - That is something fascinating to me that isn’t explored often. Also an incredibly tragic event.

The fourth crusade deserves little bit more context to understand than what is presented in the video due to the limitations of time. A pretender to the title of the emperor (future Alexios IV) of the Eastern Roman Empire promised the crusaders if they help him get the throne for himself, he's going to pay for the crusade and provide provisions for the crusaders as well. After they arrived to Constantinople the current emperor Alexios III tried to engage in battle but had no support of the army, was shouted at, laughed at and mocked by the Latin knights and had to withdraw back into the city. Then he fled the city at night and Alexios IV became the emperor. He however could not raise the gold and provisions which were promised to the crusaders and became very unpopular due to tax increases and stripping churches of gold and silver valuables to pay the crusaders. Eventually Alexios IV was overthrown and strangled and the new leadership was highly anti-latin and anti-crusader oriented just like the most of the population of Constantinople at the time. This was followed by a massacre of Latin quarters of the city where mostly merchants with their families from Venice and Genoa stayed. The crusaders observed this from the other side of the Golden Horn, people fleeing in their ships or jumping in the waters of Golden Horn, some drowning and those who survived informed the crusaders what had happened in the city. This provoked the Venetians to storm the sea walls of Constantinople, take the city and sack it. The political intriques of the greeks were at the core of what happened in the 4th crusade. It's always about the power and wealth.

@ComradeCommissarYuri

2 жыл бұрын

I’m still impressed of the landing craft knights could charge out of that the Genoese or Venetians (I forget which) made or had with them

@tsarpalinho

2 жыл бұрын

you kind of forgot to mention the sacking of the city of Zara. The 4th crusade was a a cashgrab from the beggining and a massive stain on the papacy, it impressive though that 1000 year propaganda is still standing. I hope you will not say that the Greeks are worst than the Jews so they need cleansing as the catholic priest where saying then.

@johnbaker4246

2 жыл бұрын

@@tsarpalinho The 4th crusade is not at all a stain in the papacy, the pope warned them not to attack Zara and excommunicated the entire crusading army afterewards.

@realtalk6195

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbaker4246 What about the Northern Crusades in Northeast Europe? Alongside attacking pagans for forced conversions, they also attacked Eastern Orthodox Christians there.

@johnbaker4246

2 жыл бұрын

@@realtalk6195 I cannot say, I am not familiar with that. The original comment here was about the 4th crusade which I know enough about to comment here, but I cannot say that about my very limited knowledge of the northern crusades.

Love the two Dans conversing. More of that please!

Thanks for clearing this up

Comments: "IM SURPRISED HE DIDN"T TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE BIT"

Whoa... did he leave out Frederick Barbarossa in the 3rd crusade? He was the first of the Western kings to move out and was quite successful in the beginning before his untimely death.

@JonnyChapelow

2 жыл бұрын

Having read his book he did write about Barbarossa.

@hakonandreasolaussen1949

2 жыл бұрын

The Norwegian King Sigurd I was the first European king to partake in a crusade, not Barbarossa

@Siegbert85

2 жыл бұрын

@@hakonandreasolaussen1949 I was talking about the 3rd crusade. He was mentioning Richard the Lionheart who indeed took on the cross first. But Barbarossa was the first to actually move out with his army.

@Siegbert85

2 жыл бұрын

@Sebastian Well, sadly not everybody has the luxury to die in battle. Many just caught malaria and withered away. At least he died while crusading after having won some battles beforehand.

@Siegbert85

2 жыл бұрын

@Sebastian what do you mean? I just wanted him to mention Barbarossa since he was arguably the bigger deal among the Western rulers at the time. It's not like Richard or Phillipp were that successful either.

It is wonderful to learn so much about the Crusades and, also, to see two so much handsome historians and namesakes together.

Cheers, Dan, from Tampa, Florida - always enjoy your programs!

I like how he calls the 4th crusaded joke.

@tacoflavoredkisses1243

Жыл бұрын

Doctor Jen Gunter is on a crusade to save your v...... :P

My history teacher described "The Crusades" as being for "God, Glory, and Gold, not necessarily in that order"...

@mawdeeps7691

Жыл бұрын

fails to mention the muslim aggression that led to them as well then. how they had aggresivley expanded using warfare to move from the arabian penisula to all of north africa attacking spain portugal the byzantines.

This is SO WELL DONE.

I really enjoyed Dan Carlin's interview with Dan Jones on Hardcore History: Addendum from a while ago. Two fantastic minds with an enthusiasm for history and relating it to our modern world, discussing the Middle Ages and "geeking out" over this kind of stuff? How could you not love that?

Thank you Dan. Fascinating and enlightening. My only quibble is that he failed to mention the many times when Muslims and “Christians” were allied against a common enemy (Christian or Muslim). The narrative of a simple great divide is quite wrong. All through history, nations have allied themselves based on their basic economic interests, and these have often not been along the lines of religion.

@Kwijiboz

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, you can clearly see it in the Iberian Peninsula, with even Christian kings having muslim vassals.

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

Funnily the Crusader States allied at times with Islamic States but obviously they back stabbed most but trade between them was also common. Really Christian and Muslim states have no problems making deals with each other to screw over fellow Christians and Muslims even well into the Early Modern Period where the Ottomans basically interfered in European Politics or how the Seljuks basically aimed the Crusaders to the Fatimids.

@MRYIMEN

Жыл бұрын

The crusades were hugely moved by religion tho, specially in the first one, where dukes and counts literally went bankrupt in order to fund the crusader armies and their journey eastwards

@andrewmole3355

Жыл бұрын

@@MRYIMEN Certainly. But that is what most people assume. The thing that is surprising to many is how often alliances crossed these boundaries. The Umayyad conquerors of Narbonne (modern-day France) in the 8th century were allied with Gothic and Gallo-Roman cities in Gaul against Charles Martel. Saladin spent more fighting co-religionists than Crusaders. Only seven years after the Turks were at the gates of Vienna in 1529, the Franco Ottoman alliance was established and has continued until modern times(!). Britain was also allied with Turkey at times. These appear throughout history.

18:45 ... no doubt the victory at Antioch was due to their use of hand grenades.

@Hiltok

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to give you a thumbs up but stopped myself as the count had already attained the correct number and if I added one it would be too much. Then next person's thumbs up would be right out!

This was awesome the algorithm got it right. This entire channel is great!

I love listening to Dan Jones. Such a good historian.

The pure "look-this-historian-has-tattoos-ness" of the thumbnail tho...

These 2 need their own full time show !

@Orphen42O

2 жыл бұрын

Attractive, articulate and authoritative historians. Who could ask for anything more ?

@kingmaker2865

2 жыл бұрын

Makes the BBC license fee worthy.... atlast 😅

I LOVE this format!

Mr. Jones is a joy to listen to him. Very good.🙏

There is something to keep in mind about the people who went on crusades, many were already immensely rich, this was a period known as the medieval renaissance, contrary to most modern depictions in movies Europe was not a dismal, impoverished backward land compared to the Islamic world, on the contrary, it was flourishing, in fact, when they came to the Holy Land they brought a lot of knowledge with them, particularly in things like agriculture and castle building advances. There were many very powerful and Rich Nobles who sold most of their lands to go on a very long voyage where there was a very good chance they would die before they even made it there, then once the crusades were finished most of them returned to Europe significantly poorer then they had been. In fact, the journey was so dangerous that the Pope actively and strongly discouraged the poor from going, it was specifically to avoid what happened in the so-called Children's Crusade and Peoples Crusade neither of which was sanctioned by the Papacy and were in fact in violation of his orders.

@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl

2 жыл бұрын

Actually the crusaders learned more knowledge from the middle east than they gave

@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

2 жыл бұрын

somebody read Riley Smith

I enjoyed this video and I’d like to hear more about the Teutonic crusades and the Muslim reclamation of the crusader states in the Middle East. However, I noticed a bias on what you said: You described Zengi as very violent, but you neglected to mention that the Europeans and their first Crusade had previously been very violent. Look at what they did to the people in Jerusalem, for example. The crusaders on the first crusade also ate human flesh. I consider that worth mentioning if you’re going to mention Zengi in a negative way.

What a fabulous historian of the Crusades, great listen!

I love the Dan's they're great at explaining history in a fun and approachable way. It helps that they don't make themselves like 'I've got a degree from a prestigious university and I'm way smarter than you' tone to their voices. They just sound super excited go share something cool that they love

Interestingly, one of the greatest writers of the First Crusade was Stephen of Blois, who, before he becomes a ruler of England after the Anarchy period, wrote to his wife the many scenes of the event as he was fighting in it.

The Crusades were the reason why the Byzantine Empire fell. The Fourth Crusade was supposed to retake Jerusalem but the Crusaders marched on Constantinople and captured it to line the Venetians' pockets.

@libertyprime6932

2 жыл бұрын

The Fourth Crusade is reason number 7 out of 100 reasons why the Byzantines fell. They had already lost all of Anatolia even before the First Crusade and were plagued by Civil Wars, the Fourth Crusade just being one of them.

@blaircolquhoun7780

2 жыл бұрын

@@libertyprime6932 Egypt was lost before Anatolia. The Arabs conquered Egypt in the seventh century. Anatolia was lost after the Battle of Manzikert in 1071. Alexius Komemenus invited the Crusaders into Constantinope in the hopes of regaining the Holy Land. That was a big mistake. He should have sent them on their way.

@johnbaker4246

2 жыл бұрын

The Fourth Crusade certainly didn't help Byzantium, but it only slightly hastened its downfall. When you have very frequent civil wars upon succession, you won't last forever.

@rockstar450

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnbaker4246 more than hasten mate. It crippled them. They would have diposed the Angeloi and moved on like they always do. Having their population dwindle with no economic confidence and the taint of their impregnable city being taken crippled it into being a glorified city state. It was in decline but this destroyed it

@forickgrimaldus8301

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no at the sametime, the Crusades may have done a lot of permanent harm and some good for Byzantium but the real issue is just that everyone hates Byzantium, the Turks and the Islamic World and the Venitians and Catholic States with some excemption with the Papacy, the Byzantines' fate basically was sealed when Turks won the battle of Manzekert, so if the Crusaders doesn't end them someone else would have ended them eventually. The Crusaders just put the final nail in any chance of Byzantium to recover.

Love the interview! Really informative: one note, though. Might wanna zoom out just a tad bit for interviewer Dan. Typically a really up close shot is done for dramatic effect so I was genuinely confused for the first minute of the video whether it was a sketch or a normal interview. Loved the questions and the background. Much better than re-enactments.

Outstanding as usual!

I suspect that a lot of hype in the crusades was propaganda but it’s really interesting to see how the impact was a lot more spaced out over time then I expected

The British interpretation of the Crusades

We need a Dan Jones narration mod for mount and blade

Love Dan Jones his explanations are very accessible