I think what Jim can't get into his head is the fact if there are no rules, then there cannot be any cheating.

@willcampbell8829

10 ай бұрын

He's also deluded enough to believe that what we have now is clean....the problem with this idea would be marketing....the 'clean Olympics' would still be riddled with drugs if there was any money in it.....

@keiththomas1416

10 ай бұрын

What I can't get my head around is Nigel, that your quite happy under the grounds of 'informed choice' where this slippery slope will end? Take it you have children? Would you be happy, under pressure from sponsors, 'venture capitalists' and apparently people with your world view to pump stimulants, diuretics or what ever into their bodies, compete against other athletes who might have better access to funding, and with it access to better drugs, so they can enjoy a lifetime of side effects or worse. It isn't the cheating aspect why doping is frowned upon, the long term health and welfare costs that Mr d'Souza will not be carried by him and his colleagues, because the athletis were "informed" so releasing them of any responsibility. It might come as a surprise to you, but ten's of thousands of kids are already awash in drugs used in the treatment of ADHD, Anxiety, Depression, as well as easy access "daddies secret stash" of pot and coke. Think that's working out well? I am all for drug research and advancement, but when you have no rules, only the strong survive.

@jackb5640

10 ай бұрын

Its like talking to a traffic cone. Whats the point of reporting something if you won't listen to what the person is saying.

@outofthetrash5925

10 ай бұрын

I often wonder if Jim's inability to understand basic concepts being explained to him (often by SJ) is real or or an act.

@havinfungettinfit

8 ай бұрын

Agreed! Their mindsets are sickeningly pathetic, bias and set in the 1960's. Yet have advanced cares, prolly take meds, have pace makers, have the newest phones, maybe replaced knees, or heart translate yet enhancement is bad! Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

How is it cheating when it’s allowed.

@adamgrimsley2900

10 ай бұрын

Its not

@GarethReecewood

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Jim was being so dumb during this

@ben-yf2em

10 ай бұрын

Jim white is so stupid 😂

@Thespacecadet187

10 ай бұрын

Literally my favourite post ever! Nail on the head...

@40yearoldvirgil15

10 ай бұрын

​@adamgrimsley2900 it would be though. That's the point

So Jim, lemme get this straight: You're saying its cheating when its all open & all athletes are allowed to take enhancements making it an equal playing field...but its not cheating when athletes lie and hide their PEDs so long as no one finds out about it? spare me

@jasonwardell7472

10 ай бұрын

Mate 100% hit the nail on the head

@delboymcfc

10 ай бұрын

They literally just interviewed wwe doped enhanced wrestlers 🤡 🌎

@Coxy_Wrecked

10 ай бұрын

@@delboymcfc Wrestling isn't a competitve sport though, its acting.

@Coxy_Wrecked

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, I couldnt quite believe my ears ewhen Jim was calling it cheating. Bizarre.

@delboymcfc

10 ай бұрын

@@Coxy_Wrecked fair enough but regardless they r literally throwing each other around like rag dolls… but I get ur point

Say what you like, but when a guy does an 8 second 100 m you’re all gonna watch.

@cryogenixoldskool5803

10 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself, I can guarantee that I won't be watching

@TribalScan.

10 ай бұрын

​@@cryogenixoldskool5803if you're commenting on it, guaranteed you're watching it!

@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool

10 ай бұрын

8 seconds will be impossible

@jmc531

10 ай бұрын

Yep. People will watch, they'll see something like that and then they'll say afterwards, "but he can't naturally do that, can he?" and it'll all feel so pointless that soon most people will just allow those thoughts to make them see that they are wasting their own time.

@mikethomas4423

10 ай бұрын

​@@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagoolyou're saying an usein bolt type athlete + the best performance enhancing drugs and the best sports scientists can't shave 1 second off his time ? I beg to differ.

A global sporting event without the hypocrisy? How refreshing!!

Yes, people watch the Olympia a lot more than natural bodybuilding

This is a much more honest event than regular sports events because now the doctors can come forward and be proud of their achievements. It would be nice to see footage of doctors prepping their liquids and athletes injecting it into their body.

It would insane. 100M sprint race in 7.5 seconds. yes please

@mnemonija

10 ай бұрын

With 10% dying during the event.

@user-xu4xj2cd2j

10 ай бұрын

​@@mnemonijawhere are you getting this from

@mnemonija

10 ай бұрын

@@user-xu4xj2cd2j we already have footballers dying occasionally on the field, and Ericsson came back luckily. This is before amphetamines.

@user-xu4xj2cd2j

10 ай бұрын

@@mnemonija nothing to do with roids mate 😂

@burnaardnufc3173

10 ай бұрын

​@@mnemonija 'During' the event? Don't spread lies like that. They'll end up putting it on box office and people will have to turn to piracy to watch it 😂

And when footballers get injured they have injections that the public don't get so is that not enhancers to get back from injuries quicker it suits people when they want it to

Jim is an absolutely awful interviewer. He is extremely biased towards his own opinions and trying to get headline statements. He always talks in a condescending tone when he dislikes the other persons opinion.

It will be even funnier when none of the Olympic world records are broken in the non tested events because they’re all already on steroids

@myhatmygandhi6217

10 ай бұрын

They'll have their own records. What will be great to see is how the enhanced records won't break the "clean" records by that much, because "clean" athletes are dopers themselves.

@JackG98

10 ай бұрын

@@myhatmygandhi6217 that’s a what I said , they’re all on PEDS it’s just an IQ test

@brettharter143

10 ай бұрын

Hes means when it proves they are already juicing and the enhanced olympics dont improve speeds

@fl00fydragon

Ай бұрын

This would be an eye opener. Though as technology advances an upcoming type of advancement is guaranteed to break all records: bionics. Such technology is painfully underfunded as it holds the potential of ending most diseases and disabilities if not outright ending aging by making us no longer burdened by the flaws of the evolutionary process.

I would watch it. The argument about safety in combat sports has already played out in the UFC. Before they had no testing, not they have USADA. The number of injuries and deaths has not changed before and after. Just they used to look like superheroes and now they look like athletes

@user-xu4xj2cd2j

10 ай бұрын

Always an excuse for the loser - I never lost they cheated

I'm all for the "on the packet" olympics.

It's not cheating if everyone is doing it, it's actually pretty interesting, there'll be teams of doctors behind the athletes and it's more about the formula of what is best for certain aspects of the sport

Yes I would watch it

Jim and Simon literally interviewed enhanced doped wrestlers prior to this segment! 😂 laughable

I have always thought this would be hilarious so why not

And your heart blows up when you’re in your 40’s.

@leepatrick9432

10 ай бұрын

Does it,where's your evidence ? What made Christian Eriksen's heart blow up at 29yrs old ?

@d4v1do

10 ай бұрын

Gatlin looks fine to me so do all the American baseball players

@chriser555

10 ай бұрын

Myth

@mcgot2good

10 ай бұрын

@@leepatrick9432 Doping did. You're dumb if you think footballers don't take performance enhancing drugs.

@40yearoldvirgil15

10 ай бұрын

Their body their choice

Jim and Simon got absolutely outclassed here. Simon hasn’t dealt with someone who knows how to speak because he’s worked alongside football pundits where he’s always the smartest in the room (although that’s hardly a compliment).

@vantheman1238

10 ай бұрын

Well said

@adamyeejy-sk9fh

10 ай бұрын

Outclassed? It's his job to play devil's advocate you fool 😂 and his point about individuals not knowing what's best for themselves is totally right.

@chrisroake1687

10 ай бұрын

@@adamyeejy-sk9fh They both got outclassed. It is all about personal choice and personal responsibility within a setting that can be controlled with medical help on standby. Individuals who join it would be doing so with full knowledge that competitors would be juiced. Now look at the current situation - juiced competitors everywhere and you could even argue that boxers currently are in more danger as they are unwittingly fighting juiced fighters.

@TheJuanvegas

10 ай бұрын

@adamyeejy-sk9fh Simon's ego is way too big to play devils advocate. He has is opinion and he believes in it. He is way out of touch here

As long as it's out in the open I have no problem with it, Pride FC was entertaining as hell and it was written in the fighters contracts that they would not be tested for PEDs.

@JR-gk7nc

10 ай бұрын

Pride was fucking crazy bro 😂 I love watching old clips

It's absolutely brilliant

Jim looks absolutely disgusted by this guy 😂 😂

@leonhughes9014

10 ай бұрын

women get injections in there face everyday for improvement ... dont see the big issue

The better question is who wouldn't watch it and why not?

It’s been in sport for over 50 years now. Massively in the 80s & 90s and now the science behind it is so clever. I remember speaking to a sports scientist In the 00s and he said 90% of all sport athletes where cheating the system in one way or another. Everyone is at it to get an advantage. I’d rather watch something where anyone can juice rather than unknowing if the person that won was juiced and 2nd place was not.

@stevethedweeb3846

10 ай бұрын

This didn’t happen sports scientists only been about for the past 10 years

@Coxy_Wrecked

10 ай бұрын

Me too. better the sport is open and allowes athletes to dope rather than continue with the charade of a clean Olympics.

@Craggles365

10 ай бұрын

@@stevethedweeb3846 well he was at Uni and the sport professor told him the stat and he told me. He was excited to start his journey into sports but absolutely devastated at the Information he was getting.

@stevethedweeb3846

10 ай бұрын

@@Craggles365he was naive then. Everyone in every sport has been taking PED’s for decades

@Craggles365

10 ай бұрын

@@stevethedweeb3846 what’s your point? Would you go and see it or not? Do you think it’s wrong or right?

Jim didn't cover himself in glory here ......

I can’t wait for this. The olympics are bloody boring and so archaic. Been waiting for this. How far can we push the human body. Jim needs a uppercut, being so patronising throughout the whole interview.

@66556086

10 ай бұрын

What happens when people did?

This is great idea. Jim is way off. The guy spoke well

This is insane. It won’t be about who is the best it will be about who has the best scientist in their team

@adamtay6312

10 ай бұрын

That's not far off what it is now

@weedeemorrison

10 ай бұрын

Much like formula 1. Not the driver anymore, its the car

@nicmonberg5974

10 ай бұрын

@@weedeemorrison not true about F1 evidence is look at team mates results Red Bull car is far better yet every race it's not 1-2 nad Max is performing his team mates not so this is not all about the car.

@WovenToe

10 ай бұрын

So the same as the olympics?

@TaraiYT

9 ай бұрын

Think about weightlifting though, eddie hall experimented with hypnotism to gain the hysterical strength you would have if you or a loved one was in peril but thats not cheating, its removing his restrictions. Same with this.

Some people will be really confused when the current olympic records aren't even broken in this event.

@Insertnamehere287

10 ай бұрын

😂 😂 a lot of people in the comments actually believe the current athletes are clean which is mind blowing to me. They think we’re gonna see an 8sec 100m 😂, bolt (a cheat) probably could’ve got it if he didn’t untie his laces

@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool

10 ай бұрын

​@@Insertnamehere287you reckon Bolt was a cheat? On what basis?

@Insertnamehere287

10 ай бұрын

@@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool every single athlete he raced against has tested positive numerous times yet he’s the only one whose clean and absolutely obliterating, destroying the records. When something in sport seems too good to be true then it usually is. In a few years when the tech is even better I won’t be surprised if his blood has designer drugs found in them.

Why did Jim get so angry at this?! His reaction is hilarious to me. Me and my friends have said for years that we'd watch a steroid Olympics. I agree with Jordan that he's just looking for a commercial opportunity but if this gets off the ground and records start being broken I am 100% tuning in.

I want to see the weight lifter lift the stadium 🏋️‍♂️ the javilin take down a plane and the sprinters out run the sound of the starter pistol! 😂😅😂

I would totally but tickets to the "Olympeds" games.

Lance Armstrongs comeback begins.

There will be an audience for it. World Strongest Man is a prime example.

This was a very interesting discussion. It's impressive listening to intelligent people like Simon and Aron thinking quickly and articulating their points and counter arguments so well. I think the enhanced games would have to be seriously impressive to draw in consumers. If world records aren't being shattered by the enhanced athletes, noone is going to care.

@outofthetrash5925

10 ай бұрын

World records are being smashed by enhanced athletes. They're just pretending to be clean. The issue this organisation will have is that top athletes currently winning things and are doping will not want to join to keep up the facade so their own enhanced records will still be above the records of those being honest about it in this organisation who are still behind genetically. What you'll get then is people saying "see the *clean* athletes are still better". Were sensible conversations over PED's had years ago, this wouldn't be happening. In the Olympics caffeine could be consumed before a race whilst cannabis can not. How ridiculous is that? I can tell you which one would be beneficial and which one wouldn't. Then take into consideration a lot of people are quite sensitive to caffeine and would not use it. Now one person has an advantage that another doesn't. Things like peptoids are banned when they are used to speed up and better healing of injuries. So an athlete who needs to recover in time would be cheating despite gaining no other advantage (other than some peptides do help you sleep better which is one mechanism by which they work). There has been calls for years for PED's to be allowed in cycling as not only is it obvious that almost everyone is using them but given how detrimental that sport is to the body, it's actually SAFER to be using certain compounds. I do understand the combat sport argument but the caveat is that if both competitors are using, they can both better absorb blows as well as dishing them out. There will always be a possibility of mortality in combat sports and it should be considered that most athletes could take what they like and never be able to hit as hard as Wilder or Mike Tyson with their God given power. Yet we still sanction people to fight them. As I say, I'm 50/50 on the combat sports thing but for the rest of sports, to have an organisation where its all open and fair I'm totally on board with.

Hell yeah I’d watch it

This can’t interfere with world record from clean athletes but this would be a good watch

I don't watch the Olympics it's boring but I would watch enhanced olympics

Was a good opportunity for an interesting conversation on a topic that hasnt been hammered to death already by the media. Shame Jim decided to be so stubborn.

@haveanotherpinacolada

10 ай бұрын

Yeah Jim ruins everything with his bad attitude.

They have cheered on Chelsea, Man City & PSG on the football pitch for years but other sports doped is a no no! 🤔

@thelmaviaduct

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

Great idea. So someone might take something that makes them a bit better. Why not

@adammohamed..

10 ай бұрын

We have that already, It’s called training harder.

@asmo2183

10 ай бұрын

@@adammohamed.. How about training harder + juiced up?

@90jimmychoo

10 ай бұрын

Couldn't have come from a better place than a Chelsea fan, whos club started off financial doping in football

@adammohamed..

10 ай бұрын

@@asmo2183 sounds like an over dose incoming. Cos if you’re better than me naturally and we both use the same amount of juice , you’re still going to be better than me. The verve made that song for a reason.

@asmo2183

10 ай бұрын

@@adammohamed.. Of course overdose is on the table. Athletes will be coming with full open eyes in this. The label is clearly is in the name.

I don't think this guys ever meet an actual athlete. To say atheletes will always make informed decisions about there body is the stupiest thing i ever heard. The reason they are athletes bevause they ignore thier bodies and push themselves to insane levels

How does someone who has been a sports pundit for however many years not able to get their head around the fact that if there is no rule against it then it's not cheating. If the rules of football changed tomorrow and using your hands was no longer disallowed then it wouldn't be cheating if somebody did it. I feel like a child can grasp that concept.

Russia will be delighted with this definitely take their full team at these games.

@TheErinBrownTV

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

Great idea. As a matter of fact most Olympic athletes are enhanced. They have ways to work around testing. Some even use blood transfusion

To really see what a human can achieve whilst on the juice would be amazing.

@Insertnamehere287

10 ай бұрын

We already see it in the premier league, boxing, Basketball, NFL, MMA, the olympics. They’re all cheating they just pretend they’re clean. There’s too much money in it for these athletes to be clean.

@Ltasty

10 ай бұрын

They're all juiced up already

@chrismatson1984

10 ай бұрын

You don't think many of these athletes arnt already on peds? Of course they are. Look at pro bodybuilders for example. Every single mr olympia competitor is on peds and clearly shows what the human body is capable of when juiced up.

This has needed to happen for so long

Would i watch it? I already am.... "As i stood on the 100m start line in lane 8 i looked along at the other 7 guys and thought what am i doing differently, why dont i look anything like that" A quote from Darren Campbell

How would it be cheating when all the guys are using abs are allowed to? 😂 What does jim think of Lance Armstrong i wonder

@philthornton1382

10 ай бұрын

To be fair Lance was just a scapegoat, they were all at it, he was just American

I’m all for it. Jim’s way off the mark with this. How can it be cheating if the rules are that you can take performance enhancing drugs.

It’s an Alternative for those who want to compete while enhanced, it’ll definitely take off & this Lad investing in it will reap the benefits. It’s amazing that Jim & Simon can’t see the potential in it!

Lance Armstrongs name getting thrown about again 😂 when the entire peloton doped and still do now

I would 100% watch 100m needs to have a big fat line jist before they take there marks .. the longer events heptathlon athletes etc need to take acid before the 1st event that would be funnier then doping

The 400 metre record will get smashed by a pole vaulter doing his lap of honour.

It's the only way forward, right now enhancement is happening in ALL professional sports, just under the table. It's no difference between the enhanced Olympics and the summer Olympics, just with the enhanced Olympics its open and legal instead of having to cheat to get the advantage or even worse, to level the playing field.

Love the faux outrage from these 3. Also, PEDs are already rife in boxing but they're not used to punch harder. How do you think Fury has such a good engine?

@Insertnamehere287

10 ай бұрын

It’s interesting that Fury is literally a steroid cheat yet it barely gets mentioned. They can’t stop harping on Conor Benn though.

@user-xu4xj2cd2j

10 ай бұрын

​@@Insertnamehere287easier to get away with it when your fat, you come out jacked that's when the accusations start

Yes I would be totally up for it, it's a level playing field and since you don't need testing you can spare a lot of money.

Long jump would be like a run a jump and where the fck did he go 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

@russellhobbs7245

8 ай бұрын

I'll be turning up in the crowd wearing a fkn suit of armour when the javelin is on

@stevencavanagh1613

8 ай бұрын

@@russellhobbs7245 like a fly by joustin 🤣🤣

I've been calling for this for yearssss it's about time

Often with Jim I feel he derives his opinion from what he deems is the publicly accepted standpoint, rather than engaging in discussion

I think it's a fantastic idea and something my brother and I have discussed many times. Let's get it on!

Cmon Jim you can do better. The man explained the cheating is what already exists, removing the rules in a separate sporting event enables all participants to do the same and be honest about it. It doesn’t mean the enhanced games results should considered in the same terms as the standard competitions.

God forbid that adults are allowed to decide for them selves

These guys are legends, however they are both really showing their disconnect with society. Jim, really showing his age with his tone and view on the subject. Make no mistake, there is some sort of market for this; how big, we shall see.

@DeusExMachina50

9 ай бұрын

Boomers gonna boomer.

Let's hope there's no roid rage at The Enhanced Olympics in December 2024

I'll definitely watch it. It'll be very interesting.

Not combat sports, that's just dangerous, but Sprinters, swimmers, weight lifting basically anything that's not a contact sport.

As ridiculous as the notion is, if you're not breaking any rules how've you cheated?

It will be great tv and athletes who participate will have more health check and be advised on how their health on either to stop in they in danger lines or keep going

We already do. It's called the Olympics

It would be great, they would be so doped up the guys in the pole vault wouldn’t need the pole

@ygmistique8155

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

I think it is great. We don't have a problem when creative artistes make good physical stuff, arranged words or noise when under the influence. Why should we not apply the same relaxed position to athletes.

Conor Benn is praying this happens ahaha

@ygmistique8155

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Cant be as boring as the real Olympics

Brings a whole new meaning to the “high jump”

@davidg5305

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂👏👏👏

@stevethedweeb3846

10 ай бұрын

Don’t think you get what doping means it’s not actual dope

@GIBBO4182

10 ай бұрын

@@stevethedweeb3846 I don’t think you get the basic concept of a joke

@40yearoldvirgil15

10 ай бұрын

Shot 💉 putt 😂😂

@stevethedweeb3846

10 ай бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 jokes are meant to be funny…. This is the least funny thing I’ve ever seen on the internet and it’s full of unfunny things

How can Jim White even suggest that the Olympics are clean. Ridiculous.

“You call it science” 🤣🤣 What would you call it Jim

Jim is so incredibly dense😂

Seems dangerous. Like people would ruin their bodies (more than usual) preparing for these events

These guys gonna be running the 100m like Sonic 🏃🏼‍♂️💨

An all mutant league might be fun to watch, but I am not a fan of how this is being marketed.

The funny thing it’s a great idea the performance enhancements are safe when pure and we understand to be the best at something like track you have to be a genetic anomaly training will get you in the top 10 not 0.1% And they all take supplements now so the this category is the equivalent of a open competition ironically

@brettharter143

10 ай бұрын

They are safe with doctors supervision and blood work.

I'd watch it, cuz it's still human beings managing to do these records. Yep, i'd watch it.

You would need to be naive to think you haven’t been watching it…it’s rife in top level sports.

And now we come to the 2gram category..

We all ready have the dirty Olympics it’s called the Olympic Games.

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

Jim and Simon were being to absolute idiots in this segment

Big fan of this, I would definitely watch

No rules, no holds barred. Anything goes = LAZY BOOKING!

I remember watching a stand-up comedian do a bit about this years ago lol. I think it was Just for Laughs in Montreal.

It would be like F1 who can find the best doping strategy for their season and then a mediocre or average driver can look like the best driver ever !

We’re currently watching it; it’s absurd to think otherwise.

I for one want to see someone do a 10 metre long jump.

"Our roided up guy, beat your roided up guy" ~Bill Burr

I honestly don’t know why talkSport gave this guy the platform and the airtime. It was one of the most ridiculous segments I’ve ever heard. He was a crank.

Why Simon and Danny going on about combat sports when I don't think they are in them.

Any athlete who signs up is pretty much accepting defeat. Dwain Chambers must be gutted he went Cass

Next The Running Man … Who Loves you and Who do you Love … It’s time to start Running 😂

Only way to clean sport up