*sigh*....once again, I have another partially obsolete video. There is still one more thing to finish this story: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4SLtKNyerbfm9I.html

@testohtoby

6 күн бұрын

The OG rabbithole.7z LET'S GOOOO 😍

@winter_wonka

6 күн бұрын

boxpig41

@Vassilinia

6 күн бұрын

YOOOOO LET'S GO

@fewsnow

5 күн бұрын

Lezgo

@zsakarmin1663

5 күн бұрын

bro literally farm views on me. thats okay tho, waiting for the video

No way that's Dinnerbone, the profile picture isn't upside down.

@Keaton42

14 күн бұрын

Nah you're right that's Breakfastbone

@mkks4559

14 күн бұрын

@@Keaton42 Breakfastcartilage.

@Dank

14 күн бұрын

Maybe it is but he is also upside down

@mkks4559

14 күн бұрын

@@Dank You know, maybe he's in Australia so technically, his profile picture is upside down twice.

@Bensaidhi

14 күн бұрын

⁠@@mkks4559wait hold on you might be onto something…

THE PLOT THICKENS… (and subsequently ends)

@Spinex0196

14 күн бұрын

noo i want more rgn uploads

@ocococococococococococococ3267

14 күн бұрын

there is still the other weird file that was in the the decoy edit: maybe nvm he said in the first episode it could just be to increase the file size

@Gibinhafilho

14 күн бұрын

THE TURN TABLES!

@Vassilinia

13 күн бұрын

But we still don't know the password.

@Vassilinia

13 күн бұрын

It's nowhere near over, not until we get the password and can verify the contents for ourselves.

Blatantly fake, it's very clear that this was the file where Herobrine formerly stored his feet pics in, hence immensely secure encryption - it was too dangerous for the public to see.

@Ryuko15

14 күн бұрын

it will corrupt the world

@joshstraub6972

14 күн бұрын

@jetsflyingoffatrain4338

14 күн бұрын

Fr

@hx0d

14 күн бұрын

That's why Mojang let us know that Herobrine was removed several times after the game release at Minecon; it was too dangerous even for themselves.

@gregoryturk1275

14 күн бұрын

Hero Brian organization is watching you. Be careful

3 videos in a week - we eating good

@Nenerii

14 күн бұрын

And of the same plot, too

@cinderblocktreehouse

14 күн бұрын

O YES

@A183real

14 күн бұрын

Quite the delectable.

@wesleytran3890

14 күн бұрын

here in the first hour

@vombgrillz

14 күн бұрын

He made first video, contacted by someone not happy with it, made second video to backtrack on his words, still people wanted a conclusion, then that someone forced a fake conclusion...

I feel like all the Minecraft ARGs have conditioned us to immediately assume mojang devs are hiding something lol

@thederpypikachu9873

14 күн бұрын

I think ARGs in general have conditioned everyone for any game. It's kind of sad.

@trixiebewitched

14 күн бұрын

​@@thederpypikachu9873 not just ARGs in games but in shows like Gravity Falls. People legit thought the Gravity Falls ARG was gonne be sinister asf. But it wasnt. It was just a lore dump.

@thederpypikachu9873

14 күн бұрын

@@trixiebewitched I would argue games made it worse, but fair. I think it's also the fault of the internet for overhyping or working themselves into a frenzy about stuff like this.

@trixiebewitched

14 күн бұрын

@@thederpypikachu9873 the only arg worth the frenzy imo is cicada 3301. It still hasnt been cracked and we havent heard a SINGLE WORD from cicada since 2017, and they only appeared to dispell fasle puzzle piece makers and reiterate theres only been 3 clues released by the cicada.

@ZelenskyPlane

14 күн бұрын

@@thederpypikachu9873okay but ARGs are still very fun to be a part of

Dinnerbone be like "i just want this to be over with, pls don't bother me after my qna"

@Supahdenning

14 күн бұрын

>I don't want attention, that's why I put myself at the center of this massive public spectacle that doesn't matter anyway lol don't worry about it guyse

@CheeseManFuu

14 күн бұрын

@@Supahdenning Did you miss the part where people nagged him about this for several years? He kind of has to address it because he's the only non-mojang employee involved in tominecon with any reason to talk about it. Notch is heavily dissociated with Minecraft (in fact, recently joined a new studio so he has much bigger fish to fry), Jeb is currently in Mojang so he probably quite literally is not allowed to, Mollstam is very much not online, so that pretty much leaves Dinnerbone who is the only one of that group who has little-to-no legal obligations and actually circulates the internet. He kept downplaying it for several years until a sizable youtuber decided put a spotlight on it and basically skyrocketed the popularity and forced him to take action.

@Supahdenning

14 күн бұрын

@@CheeseManFuu He is not involved with tominecon, he was hired by Mojang in 2012 after both Minecon 2011 and the file swap. He has no obligation to engage with anything at all, he is only increasing the attention on himself by giving a testimony full of holes to an audience of hundreds of thousands.

@CheeseManFuu

14 күн бұрын

@@Supahdenning He's made statements between his hiring and now. He stoked the flame a couple times to support his fellow programming nerds and since then has been an accomplice, whether he likes it or not.

@Supahdenning

14 күн бұрын

@@CheeseManFuu That much is true.

Man, I was really hoping the original file had like a rick roll that was thrown in as a joke between developers.

@Ekipsogel

14 күн бұрын

Was that even a thing back then?

@CERISTHEDEV

14 күн бұрын

​@@Ekipsogelyes it started arround 2004 to 2009 i dont remember

@TuShan18

14 күн бұрын

@@Ekipsogelif it’s Minecraft 1.0, then it would be November of 2011. Rick rolling had to have been a thing by then.

@trixiebewitched

14 күн бұрын

​@@Ekipsogel rick rolling has been a thing ever since the internets conception. It is the oldest meme i can possibly think of. Besides rawrXD.

@VoidPelt

14 күн бұрын

That’s what I was hoping for too. Like a big brain play on people that like solving mysteries

That was quick. I just finished watching the last video saying that cracking the file wasn't possible!

@AnonsTreasures

14 күн бұрын

They were just trying to get people to stop, it's not impossible. It sucks. Both Dinnerbone and RGN are trying to get everyone to stop cracking the file.

@maximilanobravo8198

14 күн бұрын

Same here

@_Berserk_984

14 күн бұрын

-_- How do you plan to crack an AES-256?

@lightningmc0935

14 күн бұрын

@@AnonsTreasures it is impossible, at least in a timeframe before your bloodline ends

@5d4a5

14 күн бұрын

same bro

Dinnerbone does not seem to understand the indomitable human need to fuck around and find out, a lock might not be a challenge but that never stopped anyone to see it as one

@AnonsTreasures

13 күн бұрын

Hell yeah, lost so much respect for dinnerbone and RGN over the course of this.

@leedlelel2373

13 күн бұрын

​@@AnonsTreasures what You do realize op wasnt advocating for this, right?

@bobby6220

13 күн бұрын

@@leedlelel2373 oh no, I absolutely advocate for people fucking around and finding out, I love that shit, I don't agree with AnonsTreasures tho, I got nothing against Dinnerbone or RGN, they obviously can't endorse people doing this, especially Dinnerbone

@Eph5wife4life

11 күн бұрын

No, "f around and find out" isn't a need. It's simply a human impulse. You guys should try controlling it sometime.....it's called impulse control and is actually good for you. Poor impulse control is usually actually considered a symptom of certain mental illnesses and various neurodivergencies, not some wonderful thing people should indulge in. I speak from experience when I say I would not wish poor impulse control on anyone. You usually end up getting yourself into trouble at some point in your life. Good grief, people.

@AnonsTreasures

11 күн бұрын

@@Eph5wife4life Go back to your wife and kids bro, you have no horse in this race.

The archivist in me wants the file cracked and the version of MC properly documented. The rational person in me is mildly disgusted by the harrassment of employees and annoyed by the fact people can't just be normal and recognise that the password likely comprimises other aspects of Mojang

@wheedler

14 күн бұрын

Can disgust or annoyance be rational? Can any emotion?

@vendetta.02

13 күн бұрын

​@@wheedlerYes, the only irrational one here is you.

@nox6438

13 күн бұрын

@@wheedler Yes, thanks for the question though Aristotle

@Vassilinia

13 күн бұрын

Didn't he say that the password isn't relevant anymore? What could be compromised?

@hubguy

13 күн бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@VassiliniaHe pretty plainly made it clear that it’s less this specific instance and more the principle that people should not just dig into anything and everything just because they want to. There’s reasons why things are under lock and key, and many times it’s simply for someone’s own privacy that would be unfairly invaded or files people don’t want dumped everywhere for normal business reasons And even in this instance, it’s just not his decision to make unless someone at Mojang did it or gave the all clear and ensured that password wasn’t attached to anything out in the open

There's a TON of new information here...what do you think?

@AnonsTreasures

14 күн бұрын

The cracking must continue, until we have the password and contents nothing is really settled or confirmed.

@chloe9846

14 күн бұрын

I’m just glad Dinnerbone cleared things up for us. But I do feel bad that him and other Mojang developers have been asked about it every year for a decade by Minecraft fans. That must get annoying real fast! Either way this mystery is finally settled!! 😅

@tabstabstabs.

14 күн бұрын

Very cool

@The_Lamp1

14 күн бұрын

im satisfied with this result I think others will not be I doubt Dinnerbone would have reason to lie to us and genuinely just wants to bury this once and for all and be done with it Great job on your investigation!

@WreeperXD

14 күн бұрын

we should still continue trying to find what's there

Pro tip: if you're trying to "remove your name from the internet", don't make it an easter egg in the most popular game in history.

@snipeh

13 күн бұрын

more people know about the dinner bone easter egg then the fact that leaves are waterlogable

@cralo2569

13 күн бұрын

kikiyama......................

@IceFlower22

13 күн бұрын

@@snipeh wait wtf. They actually are??? I'll be frank, you did make a really good comparison there! I did not know that but i certainly do know the dinnerbone easter egg; can't even remember when i learned it.

@loweni7460

13 күн бұрын

Exactly the guy claims he wants to be left alone yet ties himself to this mystery surrounding a popular game then says he knows the password but refuses to give it to the public then complains he's getting too much attention hmm I wonder why? His actions indicate he's seeking attention

@jordan.L.

12 күн бұрын

@@loweni7460 You are reading into it too much. I feel like a lot of commenters here are projecting their own attention-seeking behavior onto him. what incentive would he have for getting a lot of attention? do you really think it matters to him? I do still suspect that he could be trying to protect the contents/password by diverting our attention away from prodding at it but that is it. grow up.

As a computer tech, I can agree that confidentiality is way more important than you think. I worked as IT assistant in a university for like 6 months, now I know how to make a card that opens any door, I have a company win10 key that has 14000 uses, I know all 5 admin passwords for all schools passwords, I even almost got to keep a hdd that I had to copy to a ssd to upgrade the accountants computer, but then I had to format it. All due respect dealing with spicy data and knowledge is quite a fun mental challenge. I could give/pass on things away for my friends there, but I didn't. And that's responsibility. Now imagine you are a small growing company that uses the same password for almost everything. Yeah, that ain't good, unless you're a black hat... it's serious.

@MephiticMiasma

14 күн бұрын

"There are two people that have a key for every lock in the company-- the President and the Janitor. And I'm not so sure about the President." Isn't it fun being the janitor? 😉

@SnoFitzroy

14 күн бұрын

@@MephiticMiasma digital janitors are fucking cool. I'd love to learn more about that win10 key they mentioned (like, why it works that way, not asking for the key)

@ericwildfong

14 күн бұрын

@@SnoFitzroy It's likely just a license key. The company probably bought 14000 licenses which for some reason Microsoft attached to the same key. Admittedly that's a much more realistic way of handling it from a logistics standpoint than needing to keep track of 14000 different keys so good on Microsoft for that I suppose

@rosekamii

14 күн бұрын

​​@@SnoFitzroycompany keys are, as the name suggests, meant for companies to be able to set up a lot of machines at once. it'd be a bit inconvenient to be sent tens of thousands of keys, so it's just one key with multiple uses i have no idea what im talking about though lol edit: i also just remembered they're actually called volume keys

@snikrepak

14 күн бұрын

Cringedows much?​@@ericwildfong

6:50 Nah, I usually break and enter just for fun. (There is over 150 court cases pending, as a result of my silly challenges)

@__-st1gz

14 күн бұрын

Source: trust me bro

@DG_plusrandomnumbers

13 күн бұрын

"It's just a prank, bro!" B&E edition lol

@nox6438

13 күн бұрын

I was just completing side quests your honor

@BrightyLighty_

13 күн бұрын

maia arson crimew:

@mightytheknight2878

11 күн бұрын

Wait....

I've seen so many Minecraft creepypastas that for most of the time I thoguht the file was a fake story like most of the rest- in a way I wish it had stayed that way in my mind. It does serve as an important reminder that not everything is a game- when things like this are real, they're often not as crazy or mysterious as you might've hoped- and sometimes digging into these things can actually be harmful. Or- to put it simply: "Chill bro, it's not that deep."

@mrpro7737

6 күн бұрын

password is "boxpig41"

@anythingbenz4005

6 күн бұрын

The password tominecon is "boxpig41" lol

"don't go cracking passwords, seriously" "i won't give you the password because that makes it less fun" bro is sending some serious mixed signals here. just give people the damn password and let it be over with if it truly doesn't matter.

@GrantGryczan

9 күн бұрын

He said he isn't in a position where he's allowed to just give out old company passwords.

@mrpro7737

6 күн бұрын

password is "boxpig41"

@anythingbenz4005

6 күн бұрын

The password tominecon is "boxpig41" lol

One interesting takeaway from this is that a lot of companies have absutely atrocious information security practices. Plenty of companies have sensitive data on publicly accessible fileshares.

@RetroGamingNow

14 күн бұрын

This is one aspect that was really surprising to me. Although I suppose that, in the end, this file is no different than what was going to be on assets.minecraft.net regardless (Minecraft 1.0)

@tacothedank

13 күн бұрын

Shout-out to the Swiss anarchist trans catgirl who pulled a :3 and leaked the TSA no-fly list by doing nothing more than browsing exposed Jenkins servers

@rainbowlack

13 күн бұрын

​@@tacothedank holy fucking bingle

@Madaseter

13 күн бұрын

​@@tacothedank jesus thats a full name lmao

@solenoids3

13 күн бұрын

@@RetroGamingNow I probably would have done the same and left the file public but encrypted if I were typing the command to upload it. When organizing a convention you have be prepared for random changes to the plan, and chaos as the organizers set up all the PCs on a short deadline. Some problem with access control could be a nightmare if it can't be resolved on the spot, but straightforward passphrase encryption is guaranteed to work. I wouldn't be surprised if they also had it on multiple flash drives, just in case servers go down or the 2011-era Wifi routers gets knocked out by all the phones.

"Please do not try and break into every lock you see" In the meantime, the rogue at my table:

I literally JUST finished watching the other video, and now there's this uploaded less than a minute later. That's crazy.

@digikrypt3566

14 күн бұрын

facts

@mightytheknight2878

11 күн бұрын

its evolving and forward

NO WAY I've been following this mystery for a very long time now but your videos on it was a perfect recap and this new development is crazy

@Evil_Jyan

13 күн бұрын

Green screen guy

@ericquiabazza2608

12 күн бұрын

Brhu The first video is legit The second and third are contracted cover up Why would dinnerbone make a Q&A about it at THE SAME TIME. They know is popular and try to hide it.

@Pocketnaut

12 күн бұрын

@@ericquiabazza2608 he literally said "yeah continue trying to crack the code". You choose to disagree because you want the mystery to stay a mystery

Dinnerbone is correct about the cracking thing, but there’s more nuance. Sometimes you need to get into the “bad” territory to save archives of things.

@FlantisFroggu

13 күн бұрын

what do you expect to archive from this? You can already get minecraft 1.0

@FwuXi

12 күн бұрын

I don't actually think he is. On one hand, he tells us not to treat every lock as a challenge, and that "You shouldn't be breaking into things not meant for you." On the other though, he fails (or the video fails to demonstrate) addressing the literal challenge dangled in front of people by swapping the files with one intentionally meant to be cracked open. For the purpose you mentioned in your last sentence alone, I feel discredits the idea that, "this should be illegal" as was alluded to in previous videos. A lot of game preservation is often done by entering these gray areas of law. Maybe I just ascribe to a different philosophy on security, but if you accidentally leak a file or secret. The only real thing you can do after that is minimize damage that results of this secret or file being leaked. As incorporated as the internet has become, it's often still the wild-west. People will do with files as they please, and that includes cracking password protected archives.

@ericquiabazza2608

12 күн бұрын

He is talking as the one convoluted into hiding shit. Cracking into thing that sre suposed to is what journalist, whistleblowers and other hackers do. Wiki leaks and the crimes done by countries and corporation will NEVER come to lightoherwise. The guy is a literall involve party. And thi channel has been grave int oit too. The whole dinerbone Q&A tells you they ARE paying atention and this IS impotants

@0x6a09

11 күн бұрын

@@FlantisFroggu it could be slightly different

@mrpro7737

6 күн бұрын

password is "boxpig41"

he got the password from an old email for a minecon that took place before his employment?

I feel like if those initial trolls didn't say stuff like, "This could DESTROY mojang and RUIN minecraft!", everyone would've just left this thing alone and no big assumptions would've been made about the contents of the file

@BrainStormzFTC

13 күн бұрын

The funny thing is, at the time, they were kinda right. Not about the contents of the archive, but the password itself was presumably still in use at that time.

@TheCustomFHD

6 күн бұрын

​@@BrainStormzFTCexactly.. there is a chance that those people werent trolling, and just said they were trolling to get the spam off of their accounts..

I think I'm in a time loop. I swear to God like a year ago I saw this exact same video with the exact same screenshot of the files. I'm not going crazy.

@leongashwig

14 күн бұрын

its called "deja vu"

@theairaccumulator7144

14 күн бұрын

yea you're going crazy I'm pretty sure

@wheedler

14 күн бұрын

That'd be a good sequel, Groundhog Year.

@masteroftheinternetverse1296

14 күн бұрын

Good luck with the time loop!

@tacothedank

13 күн бұрын

WAKE UP

They could give us the AES-256 key without revealing the password.

@user-vm1hi7bo5s

10 күн бұрын

That makes sense. He should have asked this.

@quebono100

9 күн бұрын

Or he is hidding something

@sukulhanda

6 күн бұрын

password is boxpig41

Finally! I arrived to a RGN video when it was only 1 minute old!

@jukita

14 күн бұрын

linux man pops up under minecraft video

@masela01

14 күн бұрын

i recognize you from discord !

@oglothenerd

14 күн бұрын

@@jukita :D

@silent-hills

14 күн бұрын

1 hour for me!

@hatyyy

14 күн бұрын

yes linux is very epic

i guarantee that people are still going to try to crack the file even after this. people have sunk so much time into this already, they're gonna want to see it through to the end

@seeya_cya

14 күн бұрын

and they just released an ultimate confirmation that the password very likely was used online, which means people don't need to try all the existing passoword but only scan existing data breaches

@cole36912

14 күн бұрын

Of course, screenshots aren’t proof, only the password would be

@gregoryturk1275

14 күн бұрын

Find it find it

@Bill-Lions-musk-dye

14 күн бұрын

buying minecraft ❌ crack into a file confidential by the devs just to play minecraft 1.0 for free ✅

@mulhollandoverdrive

13 күн бұрын

@@seeya_cya What? No, Dinnerbone said that the password was used at other parts of Mojang, there is zero evidence that you would even find it in a data breach, especially because a data breach of Mojang would be pretty well known.

Screw off dinnerbone, I'm going to crack into every lock I see-- As a fun challenge.

@rexxe001

14 күн бұрын

Yes breaking the law my favorite meal

@Porygonal64

14 күн бұрын

@@rexxe001 fuck the law

@TobiCozy

14 күн бұрын

@@rexxe001 eat my ass law

@snikrepak

14 күн бұрын

​@@Porygonal64amen! Hoist that flag, and sing that shanty! This dinnerblocke sounds like damage control.... and who is he to tell us who we can and cannot hack/crack?

@cat1554

14 күн бұрын

What, are you some kind of lawyer?

"Hey RGN, how much do we have to pay you for you to make another video encouraging people to not try to crack this file?"

@holyjewel

14 күн бұрын

No kidding lol

@_BangDroid_

6 күн бұрын

If anything this only fuels it more. Don't press this red button!

They are obviously trying to stop you from getting into the file because something is important. Why else would there be 3 uploads a day?

so basically: it's private shit that lost most of its importance, and that contains old Minecraft

@AnonsTreasures

13 күн бұрын

Most likely

@cj.wijtmans

12 күн бұрын

alledgedly.

we should stilly try and crack it, I think omni archive would be interseted in the jar, even if it is only slightly differnt

Stumbling upon this video series in the morning and this coming out while I'm at work is the best KZread luck Ive had

But Dinnerbone only started working at Mojang in 2012 though? He's talking about the file as if he has first-hand experience and was at Minecon, which is not the case.

@thederpypikachu9873

14 күн бұрын

I mean, I've worked at companies and because I was told and updated on previous situations, I had a lot of knowledge on it, even though I wasn't actively there. Dinnerbone probably had the same thing. It was a small team back then, and even now, small teams working on something talk to each other about past events or things all the time. Not even just for game development. It's happened at all but one of the jobs I've worked over the years, and at every single school and club I've been in, except the club I had created. People tell stories, and since it hasn't been a huge amount of time, and since there's probably some form of documentation in a file or old notes somewhere, Dinnerbone still knows about everything. He also could be just acting as the contact on behalf of not just himself, but other devs. Like they all communicated and were able to compile knowledge to answer a question and since the interview was written discord messages, he could rewrite from outside notes or messages instead of having to say it out loud. Just food for thought

@Supahdenning

14 күн бұрын

@@thederpypikachu9873 He directly says he used tominecon to update the game to the "recently released 1.0" on the "show floor", which cannot be true. This is a serious issue.

@Supahdenning

14 күн бұрын

Was my response hidden? Dinnerbone directly says he used tominecon to update the game to the "recently released 1.0" on the "show floor", which cannot be true. This is a serious issue.

@toplil4118

14 күн бұрын

Before he was hired by Mojang, he was part of the Bukkit team. The video says he was at Minecon to live-update Bukkit for Release 1.0, which is also why he has the file and the password.

The hell you mean "a few weeks ago", it was 9 days

@vombgrillz

14 күн бұрын

Bro is a puppet now, Dinnerbone is pulling strings

@jetsflyingoffatrain4338

14 күн бұрын

​@@vombgrillzAre you delusional? Next thing I know you'll be commenting flat earth

Bro's trying to shame hackers into not cracking things lmao

@jetsflyingoffatrain4338

14 күн бұрын

Breaking into a file isn't hacking

@wheedler

14 күн бұрын

@@jetsflyingoffatrain4338 How so?

How is dinnerbone even contactable if he doesn't want to be online?

@thederpypikachu9873

14 күн бұрын

He probably never deleted old accounts or uses them non-publicly. Discord is connected through email and sometimes phone number, and even I get emails like "hey you missed messages in this server" or "you got dm'd by this person" if I haven't logged onto my secondary account in a while. He also probably has personal accounts and saw the discourse and decided to say something either with the OG account or a new one. Etc etc

@wheedler

14 күн бұрын

I assumed he wasn't online at all and people were approaching him in real life about this. Otherwise, he's not trying very hard.

@prismavoid3764

14 күн бұрын

I'm guessing that by that, he means something like "not being as public online". The way most people are "online" but don't have a social media presence where they're talking with thousands of people constantly. Like, probably a private Twitter and a Discord that's only in a few small friend group servers, where close friends and family can contact him, but generally not any random guy who knows nothing about him. People might've gotten into contact with him for the QNA via one of those people who still can contact him online hearing about the mystery and asking him personally, which caused him to do the QNA to try and shut down the mystery permanently.

Amazing video! I was watching your other video about minewatch and when looking at the channel there seems to be a lot of updates and new videos. I would love to see a follow up video on that topic because i dont see anyone doing it and im so invested xD

damn this is perfect because I just watched the other one, these videos are so good I subscribed, and i'm sure your video was a big reason this investigation was pushed

You could've mentionned Dinnerbone's reply in your latest video, in the comment section, where he says that he indeed remembered the password and when asked if that meant the password was a simple phrase to remember, he answered that he still had to check on an old email (maybe to try to hide the fact that the password is indeed simple to guess ?)

@seeya_cya

14 күн бұрын

it was indeed simple, nobody was using generated passwords as we do today

@JoBot__

14 күн бұрын

@@seeya_cya That doesn't mean the password can't be complex.

@wheedler

14 күн бұрын

@@seeya_cya I was using relatively complex algorithmic passwords back then. Not completely random, but not guessable and probably not brute forceable.

until i see proof i still believe it's notch's manifesto

@AnonsTreasures

14 күн бұрын

That's the worst part, we have no proof. We don't have the password, we don't have the contents. Just Dinnerbone and RGN telling us to stop, and when we didn't they gave us a screenshot saying "erhm this is all it is, guys stop now pls"

@MarkBonneaux

14 күн бұрын

​@@AnonsTreasureslike Dinnerbone said, though, sometimes the mystery is better than the answer. Yeah, they could be lying, but, like, why? It's not like this is the NSA with evidence of the Illuminati, it's an old Minecraft file.

@vombgrillz

14 күн бұрын

@AnonsTreasures I agree with you, feels really weird, first video was seen by someone who didn't like it, second one was trying hard to make people stop, but everyone wanted conclusion, so they made up a conclusion with this third video...

@darklex5150

14 күн бұрын

​@@AnonsTreasureswhy are you making this bigger than it actually is? It was a fun mystery that's it, there is nothing important in that file.

@lu2timess

14 күн бұрын

​@@AnonsTreasures Bcs the community should just stop, there' won't be nothing of use or barely interesting content in there, Idk what the community is trying to get out of this, no is no

"Sometimes the locks are there for a reason, not just as a fun challenge" Yeah, the 12 years old me begs to differ. We broke a lock into empty room we saw for the first time, and was happy the whole day.

this is why we need ARG's and stuff, people love cracking codes and solving mysteries, so much so that they'll even potentially risk the security of the things they love

I love how Dinnerbone reveals that the password is hinting at an embarrassing moment from another office worker. I guess that is why he still knows the password XD

@gregoryturk1275

14 күн бұрын

It must be letters and numbers then

@U20E0

14 күн бұрын

Which means it _is_ susceptible to a dictionary attack, just a more complex one

@mr.skeleton4346

14 күн бұрын

Thats literally not what he said

@wheedler

14 күн бұрын

You think someone really did go back in time to embarrass a Mojang employee? I guess that makes sense, since the password will only be known after quantum computing cracks the encryption and gives us both the password and time travel.

@gregoryturk1275

14 күн бұрын

@@wheedler Time travel? Bro needs to watch some quantum computing videos. Domain of science has a good one

The real mystery is why Dinnerbone has been trying to remove his online presence so hard. I know he has been sick for years, and I understand that this isn't really for us to know, but I used to look up to him as a kid. I just hope he's having a good life, and that he is feeling better. I remember watching a Mojang game jam stream years back and Dinnerbone was working on a 2d sidescroller where the player was fighting big snails. I suggested the player to have a salt gun, and his face lit up. He said "A salt gun!" and looked up towards someone off-screen. Evidently he didn't get a response back, and went back to programming and forgot all about it. It stuck with me though.

bro i was just watching the 2 other vids and then as im done with the last one a new one is here, good stuff

Thanks for covering this mystery! I've enjoyed experiencing it as it unfolded

Is it really entitlement to try and access a locked zip files contents? At least to me, it seems more like a case or curiousity gone too far. I doubt that many feel as though they are *owed* access to the file. And if you left it public, you have yourself to blame just as much as everyone else.

@holyjewel

14 күн бұрын

He’s acting as the “poor innocent victim” of a crime that doesn’t exist.

I watched the first video. Started to second. Saw your comment about a new update. Subbed, refreshed my feed and promptly stopped the second video 😂

I think you should do a deep dive on the dungeons in minecraft. Not the temples but the actual dungeons and their implications

@Copperkaiju

14 күн бұрын

That sounds like fun. Without MatPat, RGN is my favorite for Minecraft theories.

@thederpypikachu9873

14 күн бұрын

​@@CopperkaijuI'm sort of the same way. Used to be a big MP fan before I realized how he has been "borrowing" theories and not always crediting, plus the whole supporting a hate group situation. I did really enjoy his minecraft theories (mostly). While some of my minecraft lore beliefs/theories fall more in line with MP/the ones MP popularized, I do love seeing the different ways you can take evidence and things from the game, and a handful of things I do think are more accurate here.

@gregoryturk1275

14 күн бұрын

Good idea

@andrewpinedo1883

14 күн бұрын

⁠@@thederpypikachu9873Wait, Matpat supported a hate group? How have I never heard that until now?

@thederpypikachu9873

14 күн бұрын

@@andrewpinedo1883 I don't remember the exact name but he donated/supported Matt Rober (or however you spell his name) when he was doing some charity for his autistic son. That charity is (I don't remember the details, it's been like 2 years since I found out and did all the digging on it) either directly connected to or based on Autism Speaks. Autism Speaks, while not officially classified as one, IS a hate group. It spreads horrific misinformation and blatant lies about Autism/ASD, including making a commercial about a mom who said she wanted to drive herself and her autistic child off a cliff because it's "so hard to deal with", promoting the "superhero/superpowers" mentality, at one point was associated with the "bleach curea autism" lie, and is associated with the "vaccines cause autism" lie. There's even more, but yeah he didn't bother to do research before supporting a fellow youtuber's charity/donations/etc that is connected to autism speaks. I'd have to go dig up the articles/posts/pages again and I'm busy with work this weekend but yeah.

Startup company likely used the same password on everything: this 7z, their (AWS) cloud accounts, hell probably on the company's bank account too. This is why dinnerbone remembers the password used to encrypt the file, and also why he doesn't want it to become "known" because: 1. impossible to know if that old/shared password is still being used somewhere on some legacy system in the company 2. other archived 7z that might be floating around from decade+ ago that might contain something sensitive (email archives, financial record archives, etc).

its still NOT a conclusion... we still dont have the password, they could be lying and it could maybe be something totally different, one way would be for them to recompress that original archive but with a simpler password that ends up with the archive having the same checksum and gives it to us with that new and harmless password but they didnt even do that, its horrible ! we're still verry far from the end of that misterry and I will not abandon

@Dxgi_x3

10 күн бұрын

it got cracked the password is boxpig41

@physicsdenier793

10 күн бұрын

love how "we're still very far from the end" was said only about 3 hours before it ended

I was litterally watching this series when this video dropped you are on the ball with this

@raidz_ttv

14 күн бұрын

SAME!

Love the video but I can’t be certain dinnerbone isnt just using misdirection to try and keep people away from it. I honestly won’t consider this settled until the password is revealed and I can open the file myself. Believe me I’d like nothing more than to fully trust dinnerbone but I can’t get myself to when I know this is the good PR move to just get people to stop focusing on it.

@tybaltharr3304

11 күн бұрын

And why do you deserve to know? What gives you the right to know for yourself? Why can't we, as a community, let it go? It's just a file for a game we all *happen* to enjoy.

@jeromepoe946

11 күн бұрын

@@tybaltharr3304 bro I’m just speculating stop getting butthurt and get your head out your rear end

@VisisOcelumi

9 күн бұрын

@@tybaltharr3304 Nobody said anything about 'deserving' to know. Just because people want to know doesn't mean they 'deserve' it,but they will still try to search. The whole entitlement argument just seems to be used as a way to shut down discussion,nobody's saying they deserve these things,just that they want to open them,and they do not expect to be given a clear answer on a silver plate just because they want them.

@enduity

9 күн бұрын

You can do that now, Google it, it was cracked

We need quantum computers to check whats really in the 7z

I think it turns out that Mojang devlopers were consistent as to whats on the original tominecon.7z. Just a barely different version of Minecraft Java 1.0. And I gotta say, Love all the thumbnails on the tominecon trilogy.

Gray hats and White hats do typically know how to crack passwords but they don't do it to every password they see. I guess Dinnerbone was trying to prevent people from being so comfortable of breaking into encrypted files that they unethically hack into everything

@_BangDroid_

6 күн бұрын

He only fueled the fire. People who weren't that interested are less so, people who were very interested are more so

The only difference between it and 1.0 is just 4 characters in the code lmao

3 Parts? I didn't expect this series to end so fast

@andrewpinedo1883

14 күн бұрын

IIRC this is the longest single-topic series on the entire channel.

@volchonokilliR

13 күн бұрын

Well it's not really the end. There (probably) will be an epilogue

The only thing, dinnerbone joined in 2012 from what I heard, and the file made in 2011, so why is he giving his view on the file as if he was there when it was made? How would he remember something he wasn’t there to experience?

@generallyunimportant

14 күн бұрын

unpaid intern? or equivalent for mojang back in the day ig

@thederpypikachu9873

14 күн бұрын

You tell stories and explain stuff. Especially on small teams. It's happened at all but one job and all schools I've been to. Even if I wasn't there, I could tell you exactly what happened surrounding a few specific events because it's communicated, documented, etc. Something like this would absolutely be shared in a small dev team, even with new employees.

@jetsflyingoffatrain4338

14 күн бұрын

He was there for the swap, he didn't coment on the file before that passed it's content. He was being harrassed over it so he wanted everyone to stop messaging him as said in the QNA

@Wieku

14 күн бұрын

Dinnerbone was one of Bukkit (alternate Minecraft server with plugin support) developers. He mentions updating Bukkit live at minecon, not the game itself. So it's very likely he had insider info before getting officially hired, especially when Mojang was a small indie company at that time.

@AstaStaria-li1pe

13 күн бұрын

@@thederpypikachu9873 ok, that is a decent explanation, but what about when he gives explanations that sound like to me it’s not really from his point of view? Wouldn’t it be better for jeb to answer, as then it would be even more mystery, or someone else who knows for sure, just someone who was directly involved is all

holy shit this video was literally uploaded the minute after i watched your previous two videos about this topic. what is my luck

I saw the noti and I was HYPED and now im still HYPED. Thankyou dinnerbone! Btw you’re fun to troll with in mc ❤️

Just saw at the end that all music is produced by you. That is insane!! Maybe we could get a few music prod videos?:)

Man who gives a fuck if its just minecraft then let someone save it for archival reasons idk

IT HASN'T BEEN A FULL DAY SINCE WE DEEMED THIS MYSTERY UNSOLVABLE *inhale* AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@AnonsTreasures

14 күн бұрын

"We" no RGN deemed it that way, and suddenly dinnerbone shows up and continues to try and dissuade it. The cracking community hasn't stopped and never did. Even after RGN pushed us off his discord.

@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243

14 күн бұрын

@@AnonsTreasures Bro, I'm just a casual viewer. I still have a life outside of slaving away to open 10 year old files with (propably) nothing in them, so if the guy who introduced me to the mystery says it's over, the mystery is over to me.

@generallyunimportant

14 күн бұрын

@@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243 >casual viewer >polish name

@revertfellpapyrusfandeunde4380

14 күн бұрын

​@@generallyunimportantwhat's wrong with having a polish username

@generallyunimportant

14 күн бұрын

@@revertfellpapyrusfandeunde4380 never trust slavic people, especially polish. they're hiding something and i know it

I think RGN is being threatened by Mojang because the contents of the file are very important

I watched every video of this series on its release date on the toilet I just realized 😭

3 videos just to reveal a big fat nothing…

@LookinGoodAnya

11 күн бұрын

Not every curiosity is worth the cat dying for 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Shrieqer

11 күн бұрын

@@LookinGoodAnya I’d prefer no cats ever dying, but I appreciate the reference. Still, they could’ve at the very least shown us some footage from that Minecon game build or something. Ending it with just a dev interview that only tip-toes around the topic, and ends with him warning the community about trying something like that again left a bitter taste.

NO WAY I WAS JUST WATCHING THE SEQUEL AND THIS JUST CAME OUT???

Once quantum computers come out and become commonplace, this archive will get successfully cracked.

@XeroTTV

12 күн бұрын

No, at current estimate quantum computers would still take CENTURIES to crack this thing

@Noughtsgnik

12 күн бұрын

we just need to get all the quantum computer

@nakdu3936

10 күн бұрын

​@@XeroTTV technically, there is a small chance I mash my keyboard and randomly guess the password. I love gambling

@jeffreyblack666

10 күн бұрын

Quantum computers are not magic. They can't just magically do everything super fast. You need a specific algorithm which leverages the quantum nature of the quantum computer to be able to do things faster. e.g. Shor's algorithm for factoring integers (which can still take quite a long time). So far the best algorithm I know of for this would be similar to cutting down the bits by a factor of 2 (i.e. making it take 2^128 iterations), but now require a very big quantum computer.

I literally just finished the first video on this, and when I refreshed youtube this was right at the top. The algorithm is on point today.

I accidentally made it a tradition to play Pikmin 4 when one of these videos came out

@ThunderCube3888

10 күн бұрын

now you have to play Minecraft when Schaffrillas Productions uploads a Pikmin video

3 RGN videos in 10 days??? Must be dreamin

"Please don't try and break into every lock you see." ... Dragonborn has entered the chat

@mrpro7737

6 күн бұрын

password is "boxpig41" 😂😂😂

The password is a safety measure but the password is the sensitive information.... that's weird

@LiEnby

4 күн бұрын

Before Minecraft 1.0 released it could be a bit of a problem. After it did. It doesn't really matter

I love youe background music its so scary

Wow. Just because my sleep rythm is completely messed up (it's 23 25 here right now) I saw this video basically "still warm from the oven" XD

I love how there's pi in every thumbnail surrounding this mystery on your channel and there were 314 files in the archive and numerical value of pi is 3.14 Nice coincidence

@PetherNortal1

13 күн бұрын

I just noticed the pi symbol in all the thumbnails lol

@cdkw2

13 күн бұрын

@@PetherNortal1 Yeah, they caught my eye immediately

Honestly I kinda appreciate this sort of like... half-reveal? Like it's enough to satisfy people that are just curious about what's inside the zip, but still leaves some room for people who are really determined to crack the file.

The moral of the story: its not an ARG, so stop trying to solve a mystery that isn't a mystery

RGN dropping videos like kendrick dropping disses

thank you dinnerbone for being an OG. i still think it would be neet to crack it to just have minecon arcive 1.0 but hopefully for the majority of us this has satisfied our curiositys.

Sometimes a lock isn't to keep us out but to keep something else in.

@ItIsJan

13 күн бұрын

.. how is that meant to work?

@omegafalconoriginal

13 күн бұрын

@@ItIsJan instead of it being heavily encrypted keep public out it was heavily encrypted to keep herobrine in. Maybe it's secret herobrine version they last copy with him in it meant to act as a prison and if the public were to decrypt it then he be released. That original the file was uploaded to torment herobrine with being close to community to see us but nolonger able to interact. The removed his file when they feared someone would unknowingly release him again.

Its illegal that Dinnerbone pfp isnt upside down 💀

i mean if an archive is public and the contents are speculated to be interesting, people will want to break into it. I don't really think that's entitlement as much as it is just curiosity. although I guess if people are harassing and demanding that Mojang employees give them the password that is very entitled and bad behavior

@jetsflyingoffatrain4338

14 күн бұрын

The archive wasn't meant to be public, I don't think anyone should try to get in after mojang blokes say themselves that the file is not for them.

just as i thought, that password indeed was used online and most likely is somewhere in data breaches, it just had be found

The password reveals an embarrassing photo of Notch at the company Christmas party

6:00 Say this to all State Organisations how do this daily

bhra for the next april fools Mojang should make an april fools version and upload it like this for people to find

Still would be interesting to see the world included in the archive.

9:31 And now that the password was found, we can say that Dinnerbone was a legendary troll on this one. Yes, the password was a long friend along the way.

@fusion5262

7 күн бұрын

so this is the pass to the file: a long friend along the way?

a part three? damn now i'm invested

Hurray for Dinnerbone, for all the explanation and decision to clear up the whole situation. Hope that he gets what he wants after all

There’s an act 2 of mark101. It’s called the let’s play archive. Nguyen saw mark101 transform into an entity called someone and that’s mark101s username and the author is the main antagonist and you better watch it. The Author doesn’t like Nguyen and Nguyen is friends with someone and sometimes he and someone are enemy’s.

@elijahsyers4543

14 күн бұрын

And the Author is the one who made mark101 into someone.

@elijahsyers4543

14 күн бұрын

And star has revived and barely appears in the background without you noticing. The Author revived * or Star.

@elijahsyers4543

14 күн бұрын

I’m 11 Years Old.

@elijahsyers4543

14 күн бұрын

Dark Dragon: Yeah listen To Elijah! Go Watch and Search Lets Play Archive!!

@elijahsyers4543

14 күн бұрын

Mr T-Rex: yeah do it

👏 This was a fun ride … so thanks. I am deeply intrigued by Mystery Hunting in general. An exercise to strengthen my ability to see through a puzzle, or more precisely; to see through people who hunt. I’m into the Ancient World mystery, and these distractions help build a spectrum for foolishness. Again, Thanks for your excellent sleuthing.

Realistically, back when I downloaded the folder ages ago I didn't really care was in it - I just felt the game would eventually blow up (gods was I right), and it was just cool having a piece of Minecraft's history on my computer. Sucks that people think they are entitled to know everything about the folder, or that they _have_ to know the password. It was obvious what was in it. It was so close to 1.0's size, and quite literally labeled as what it was.. so even all the way back then I thought that's.. just what it was. The newest version to be shown off at Minecon with some extra PR or behind the scenes stuff to explain the larger file size.. low and behold, I was right. LOL It's like Dinnerbone said, not everything is a mystery or an ARG. Sometimes you just need to take things at face value; why would the Mojang devs lie about a decade old folder? There's no need to break every lock, and I imagine you could get in massive trouble doing that to the wrong company. Hopefully now that Dinnerbone's done this QnA, people will leave him alone.

"Why do you guys even want this password? It's so dumb to want it. You think it's fun to see secret files? These secret files are so boring, they're only a little different to the files you already have. The password means nothing to me, but I won't give it to you. Goodbye forever!"

@ryelor123

13 күн бұрын

Watch the password is the name of that 1979 Swedish film that people used to troll each other with on here years ago. I think I found the name but I won't mention it here because it had nude kids in the first scene which was on KZread.

I doubt this exactly why they used S3, but at that same time I used S3 myself as there was a Firefox extension that made uploading and downloading to it simple, fast, and easy, plus no content filtering categories used at work would block access to it...

then what were the kids in the first video you did talking about when they said they cracked it and said it contained something they shouldn't have seen? i feel like i missed something