Another thing I’d like to point out is how 97% of all Wikipedia articles will end up in philosophy if you kept clicking on the first hyperlink

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

29 күн бұрын

Try also Wiktionary, and click on hyperonyms

@briciolaa

29 күн бұрын

fun!

@suspicious_papaya4307

29 күн бұрын

this was surprisingly true. I tried doing this from the Fanta Cake article and ended up on 'Existence'

@voorwillen7424

28 күн бұрын

when i tried it it just kept going in a loop at science Edit: its not only at science but also at other things

@spiceyicey

28 күн бұрын

that's probably because 97% of articles start with the name of a language as the first hyperlink

I love how almost all dead-end articles you mentioned have no longer been dead-end just within a day of this video being uploaded.

@jacobe.1651

Ай бұрын

This video was posted 8 days ago (sent 11 hours after original comment for anybody who's curious in the future)

@gregoryturk1275

Ай бұрын

This comment was made 22 hours after the main comment: The original comment was: I love how almost all dead-end articles you mentioned have no longer been dead-end within a day of this video being uploaded. The second reply to this main comment is: This video was posted 8 days ago (sent 11 hours after original comment for anybody who is curious in the future). My comment: The Great Sun approaches. It grows. It spreads. Faster day by day. One day it shall expand to the point that it has exhausted all of its energy. Then the three inner planets shall be consumed in the fireball and Enceladus shall have liquid water. After mars with its rings shall cry. For three of its friends have died. And the sleeping monster shall fizzle away. And the life on Europa shall freeze and die. You atoms shall be consumed in the fireball. Unless…

@grapehool7699

Ай бұрын

This comment was made 2 hours after ​@@gregoryturk1275 's reply. I just want the exact time of the original comment to be documented for no reason in particular

@micheal5117

Ай бұрын

what?

@MatheoZ14

Ай бұрын

@@micheal5117 yes

Once when playing the wikipedia game in history class, the target article was "the French Revolution." We all had to start on a random page in order to demonstrate that essentially everything in the world is influenced heavily by the French Revolution. Some lucky duck's random article was "France"💀💀💀💀

@DAMfoxygrampa

14 күн бұрын

Oh that just ain't fair 😂😂

@echoplots8058

13 күн бұрын

@@DAMfoxygrampa Well, some people just get luckier than others. A lesson from the french revolution.

@blakksheep736

11 күн бұрын

​@@echoplots8058 pfffffffffffffft

@depotheose7890

10 күн бұрын

who would think that france was impacted by the french revolution

@pierrotA

9 күн бұрын

I agree that the world was greatly impacted by the French revolution, but it's a very bad way of showing it, given it work with *any* page... It's a know "paradox", there is (almost) always less that 7link between two things: it's almost 100% certain that you know someone that know someone that know someone that know someone that know Jessica Alba (or anyone else). It's the same for wikipedia. It's mathematically proven that you can find *any* page in less that 7clics. Ps: I commented before finishing the video, but it's a good demonstration of the 7links rule. You can clearly see on that bell graph that almost all the articles were linked after 7clics.

I like how someone fixed the Fanta Cake article but didn't bother to replace the sad sopping excuse of a fanta cake picture lmao

@echo5172

13 күн бұрын

Nobody else can bear to make one

@BadassCat-nl9yk

13 күн бұрын

I like how by mentioning this you got them to fix it lol

@popcorn8153

12 күн бұрын

@@BadassCat-nl9yk I just checked to see lol. The wiki community is generally pretty swift when it comes to resolving issues that they are made aware of.

@ravenwraith1017

12 күн бұрын

@@popcorn8153and now it has almost a dozen references too.

@TjinDeDjen

10 күн бұрын

@@BadassCat-nl9yk yeah, they "fixed" it with an ai generated image...

Explaining overly complex charts over smooth jazz is my favorite KZread genre.

@Yugemostsuj

Ай бұрын

Royalty free music accompanied unhinged rants are a close second

@aaronnekrin5150

Ай бұрын

I swear the light jazz helped me understand it better lol

@jiyzo

Ай бұрын

i didnt even notice it lol

@jiyzo

Ай бұрын

​@aaronnekrin5150 i wonder if school played smooth jazz over a complicated class

@DigDowner

Ай бұрын

I think you'll like the vaporwave music genre. Have fun in that youtube rabbit hole

Petition to run the code to make this graph yearly to see how it changes.

@AmIAPacifist

26 күн бұрын

I second this

@rushnbh

26 күн бұрын

Now that's something that will sorta reflect the human knowledge base and how we evolved to an even tighter better connected world.

@RevennlyTwentyThree

25 күн бұрын

I'm in

@claytonharting9899

25 күн бұрын

Signed

@aniksamiurrahman6365

25 күн бұрын

Should run continously to see how it changes continously.

Just that family making up community 42 made me smile. Seeing a robust algorithm in action is awesome.

@zo2o

14 күн бұрын

I checked them out. Seems they are no longer an orphan comunity, as many links were introduced in the article, like"Englis Politician" and other nonsense. Or maybe I misunderstood the situation completely...

@Speedster___

10 күн бұрын

@@zo2oit’s been a month since the video. It’s been updated

As a former Wikipedia editor, this is really cool to see! I regularly make use of the SpecialPages Orphaned, Deadend, Unconnected or Redirect to try and improve the linked data structure. I would really love seeing Wikipedia take this project as a source for more linked improvements!

@KasperMcKay

15 күн бұрын

Thank you for your service Wikipedia is one of humanities greatest creations

@lukasbartos2101

14 күн бұрын

also editing my language version of wikipedia and I'm just curious - was there a reason why you stopped?

@koks49045

20 сағат бұрын

this project just does not use the right data- this optimal paths like shown in this video so often just not exist this 1 example when path ends with buffalo is acutally findable but the other one is not : flood does not link to this list of non-water floods this link dump data is just not all that great, it shows many links that are not visible in the page. basicly this video is wrong, the guy would need to have his own script that would scrap all those links that are shown in the page, those links in wiki dump data are often very random.

The algorithm is sleeping on this one update: The algorithm was sleeping on this one

@bobdrooples

Ай бұрын

It's ok...I'm here now.

@dvorakgigachad1444

Ай бұрын

no the video is for nerds

@matimercad0rs

Ай бұрын

i thought it already had like 7m views

@whannabi

Ай бұрын

Wake it up then lol

@PaperSmiles

Ай бұрын

It brought me here.

Dude you should seriously submit this graph as a series to a modern art museum!! I know it sounds strange, but it’s so unique, so visually interesting, and there are so many parts of it that reveal truths about society, politics, human behavior, etc. I know so many galleries that would just love to have this as a series!

@DarknessDShadow

Ай бұрын

honestly, this is something genuinely worth of the name *modern* art

@Matthewispro69

Ай бұрын

@@DarknessDShadow yeah it looks like paint spilled all over the place so its 100% worth the name of modern art tbh

@nmikloiche

Ай бұрын

I was thinking it would be a great poster or graphic for merch to support the creator. But I think you are more on point, that a modern art museum would be an amazing place to display the visual graph and also an interactive version with the concepts explained in the video.

@electralumen165

Ай бұрын

Imagine having this with a UI would be interesting. Letting you cycle through the categories or showing all of an articles specific connections.

@FennecGeek

Ай бұрын

​@@electralumen165this is so important!

I can’t believe I watched a 20 minutes video about Wikipedia graphs to be finally be surprised with Fantakuchen as one of the most special articles. I just had Fantakuchen on Easter this year and it was one of my favorite birthday cakes all childhood long (next to Donauwelle, wave of the river Donau). Applause!

@thecorruptversion

10 күн бұрын

Lmao typical german, he wants to make clear that he's from germany. Writes fantakuchen despite being able to write everything else in english, then donauwelle and then the pretentious applause. All germans are the same, I have no idea why the chauvinism.

Shout out to 'videos explaining complex topics with graphs and charts while smooth jazz plays in the background' Gotta be one of mi favorite genres

@eric1393

15 күн бұрын

Big Jon Bois vibes for sure.

@mikehock6784

2 күн бұрын

4:05 the lick 😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂

I want a CURSED wikipedia race as a prank. You host, you select at "random" but all of them are 10th degree separation OR HIGHER.

@thunderboltpoplays1177

Ай бұрын

good idea!

@ReliableExcavationDemolition

Ай бұрын

But most Wikipedia races already take 20+ clicks so having a minimum of 10 clicks won’t really change much

@amelted

Ай бұрын

i have a feeling that trying to calculate that would quickly turn into the traveling salesman problem

@oshotz

Ай бұрын

@@ameltedTSP is a completely different problem; to find pages 10 degrees of separation or greater, you could just use a breadth-first search, similar to what he showed in the video when analyzing degrees of separation. This is possible in polynomial time (I believe O(n^2) in the worst case, but feel free to correct me if it's wrong; it most certainly is polynomial, however).

@markhaus

Ай бұрын

@@ReliableExcavationDemolitionyeah and you probably take 20 clicks to bridge a 4th degree or so relation. Just because you didn’t personally find the shortest link doesn’t mean it’s the shortest link. 10 degrees or more would be absolutely brutal for a human

The fact that the "Fanta Cake" was noticeably edited during the making of the video is hilarious

@solarnaut

Ай бұрын

I did not know that I had a single thought about Fanta Cake . . . BUTT . . . NOW That You Mention It . . . blah . . . Blah . . . B L A H !

@patrickday4206

Ай бұрын

And obviously they were both wrong and I should edit it 😂 Fanta cake the choice of the nazis

@ekhmuel

Ай бұрын

So have the Acton family articles.

@ACOUSTITRON-mp6tc

Ай бұрын

The observation of the phenomenon changes the results…

@SafetyLucas

Ай бұрын

@@ACOUSTITRON-mp6tc Same with Veritasium's 37 video

You ABSOLUTELY need to make merch on this image (posters and shirts), because I would absolutely eat it up!

@lolicacilyourismaniacopitelius

15 күн бұрын

My bedsheet already looks like this but for another reason 😂

@ethanherzig2769

11 күн бұрын

@@lolicacilyourismaniacopitelius🤨

The colors, the tone of narration, the jazz. It makes it feel like an instructional/educational video from the late 90s to early 2000s. Something I would see in a slow school day. I love it.

Dude came up with one of the most significant and important studies of Wikipedia ever conceived for a game. Amazing.

@sprgeorge333

Ай бұрын

Honestly, I studied network graphs as part of my PhD, this analysis was better and more interesting that 99% of them for aure.

@missmia196

29 күн бұрын

For real! We love visionary data nerds!

@HappyBeezerStudios

28 күн бұрын

A study of about 1/10th of wikipedia

@user-bl9hq2gf6i

21 күн бұрын

@@sprgeorge333 honestly i did too and this is NOT more interesting or intelligent than any of the papers i read.

@user-mm9ve4le6m

21 күн бұрын

​@@sprgeorge333 this is more interesting than my bachelors thesis on github collaboration networks xd

I really hope the Wikipedia groups start talking about this, this is really cool to see

@ICountFrom0

Ай бұрын

I hope that this causes people to add links to orphans and dead ends.

@yhubtfufvcfyfc

Ай бұрын

It will probably be included in our internal newspaper the signpost.

@herpederpe4320

Ай бұрын

Maybe you should lift a finger instead of asking others to do it

@gemhunter498

Ай бұрын

@@herpederpe4320 no offense, but if I was a Wikipedia editor I would be part of the problem

@ponponpatapon9670

Ай бұрын

@@herpederpe4320 not everyone is cut out to be a Wikipedia editor. the folks who're self-aware of this fact thus respect Wikipedia and-in a way-help it by not breaking anything

you should absolutely render HD images of the graph, it's beautiful, 4k at least if not super high res

@007i1

10 күн бұрын

The image is 19200 x 10800 btw. 4K is 3840 x 2160

@chigginheadD

10 күн бұрын

@@007i1 awesome, is there a link?

@007i1

10 күн бұрын

@@chigginheadD No i just looked at the code

I love the Internet! 14:25 The Acton family was immediately welcomed -back- into the wider Wikipedia community xD

I work in graph and graph database research and i have not seen such a beautiful, succinct and well presented graph ever. I think an average person would never fathom the amount of computer science that backs this video up. Huge congratulations to the creator.

@stco2426

29 күн бұрын

Agree!

@randomusermaximuss

29 күн бұрын

Many maps are useless until you have the key.

@roe_is_here

28 күн бұрын

lol same, im wondering how many days it took to run the visualization. Not to mention editing any errors notes 😅

@H2-HQ

26 күн бұрын

I completely agree, but I actually watched the video with one main question, which I believe didn't get answered: How are the articles or regions positioned on the X and Y axis on the graph?

@andnekon

26 күн бұрын

@@H2-HQ There are no X and Y axis on a graph, you can arrange nodes in any way you like

“A complete waste of time”, “Mildly interesting”, hell no, I was thinking that graph looks freaking BEAUTIFUL!

@solarnaut

Ай бұрын

" This is your brain . . . " " And this is your brain on wikipedia . . . " B---)

@yonaoisme

Ай бұрын

but only after understanding what it is

@williamross6477

Ай бұрын

@@solarnaut My brain isn’t famous enough to be on Wikipedia 😋

@EmbeddedSorcery

Ай бұрын

It's like a galaxy map of humanity.

@williamross6477

Ай бұрын

@@yonaoisme not really, I find it beautiful as a work of art, but knowing that it’s actually a data graph with millions of nodes makes it SOOO much better!

A webpage that displays this graph live with an interactive UI would be a great tool for people who enjoy editing derelict or unfinished Wikipedia articles for fun!

A few days ago I responded to a comment on a video that was providing helpful information to the KZreadr, but the information was slightly incorrect. I provided a polite correction to the comment, and I got a thank you in response. Today, I was browsing the fandom wiki for that subject and I noticed in one of the articles in the trivia section, it stated the helpful information including the small piece that was incorrect. I was confused, so I went to the main article about the topic and it was correct, but the trivia section was incorrect and didn't even link to the main article. I quickly realized that this was where the misinformation was coming from, so I edited the first article to have the correct information and link to the main article about that topic, then went back to the original comment to explain that one of the wiki articles was wrong so I fixed it to prevent someone else from being confused about it.

This is honestly one of the most interesting videos I've seen on youtube in the past 6 years.

@sa88

Ай бұрын

What was the most interesting video you watched 6 years ago?

@davidandrs3535

Ай бұрын

@@sa88 That is a great question

@xDaniik

Ай бұрын

why exactly 6

@ismaeltorresmoreno5332

Ай бұрын

we are wondering bro

@heythatsprettygood6492

Ай бұрын

what was the last one

Community 27 (Figure skating) is truly special. Almost all major Figure skaters have similarly formatted wikipedia pages with quite detaile info about their skating carreers. This hints towards that they have been majorly edited or set up by a very small group of dedicated fans.

@Blue-Maned_Hawk

25 күн бұрын

Didicated.

@ravenger2445

25 күн бұрын

Dictated.

@vcom741

24 күн бұрын

Wrestlers articles used to be similar… and then it was hijacked by an asshole mod on Wikipedia who wanted users to use their shitty wikia for their information. Wrestler articles used to have their movesets, their finishers, their entrance songs, etc.

@blindleader42

22 күн бұрын

The same for alpine ski racers at the World Cup level. I don't know about the other snow sports sanctioned by FIS.

@anotheryoutubeaccount5259

22 күн бұрын

​@@vcom741 Isn't that more appropriate for a specific Wiki than Wikipedia? The latter just tells you what wrestling is.

Literally everything in this video was so wholesome, for a number of reasons.

I would definitely love to see a video explaining in detail how you made such a graph : the methods and tools used, the code, etc. Great work btw. Keep it up 👍

@user-bl9hq2gf6i

21 күн бұрын

its super easy. hes completely exaggerating . for visualization of very big graphs you can use gephi which is open source and you can also use it without the gui and run it on servers with multiple nodes, so it does NOT take forever to compute like he claims.

This sort of thing deserves to be an actual feature on Wikipedia, it's so well done. Would be super cool to play around with an interactive version of this, or have it regularly updated to take a timelapse of how it changes.

@cf_spacetime

Ай бұрын

We'll be doing well for them to get regular charts back working first.

@spdcrzy

Ай бұрын

The computing involved with an interactive, LIVE version of this would be...non-trivial to maintain.

@AL-lh2ht

Ай бұрын

There already is something very similar already.

@d.b.4671

Ай бұрын

I could see a tool like this being particularly useful for cleanup. Those "highways numbered 9xx" articles could probably be consolidated.

@SquooshyShark1000

Ай бұрын

@@AL-lh2ht which is?

One of my favorite wikipedia trivia bits is that, at least for a long time, by clicking the first non-disambunction or pronunciation link, you will eventually end up on philosophy. I think some of the natural sciences end up being recursive now but it used to all link to philosophy.

@alexschott9567

Ай бұрын

Trying it now, my first try unfortunately got stuck in Telecommunications Network Node

@maxwellanderson8412

Ай бұрын

I remember doing this!!! I didn't hear about it from anywhere I just clicked the first article link (non pronunciation or disambiguation) and I always always ended up at philosophy where it recursed!!!

@Tremoneck

Ай бұрын

Part of the reason is that a couple of people found this fact, then checked it. The 1% that didn't end on philosophy where changed to end at philosophy.

@hmmm713

Ай бұрын

Holy shit it actually worked. It still works to this day

@carson1223

Ай бұрын

I remember when I discovered this a killjoy had cut the link between knowledge and philosophy and broke the chain. Then they would revert any edits that added the link back

Amazing work with this video. I had so many ideas spring to mind while looking at the graph and the possibilities of searching the information, and you addressed all of them. Was incredibly entertaining and insightful.

This is an incredible video. Despite being 19 minutes long it felt like it was ending before it even started, I was so interested.

Canada and Hockey being one community/category is amazing. The fact that you know 100% for certain that the article for Tim Hortons is in that category is just the glue of perfection.

@Ps5prolite

Ай бұрын

Completely irrelevant. What matters is China

@elduderino007

Ай бұрын

@@Ps5prolite OK grandpa, go take your meds.

@MrMickio1

29 күн бұрын

I mean, yea. Tim horton is a famous hockey player so its pretty much impossible for it not to link to hockey.

@elduderino007

29 күн бұрын

@@MrMickio1 Someone tells a joke. This guy: "That is factually accurate."

@DrWhoFanJ

29 күн бұрын

@@MrMickio1So famous I’ve literally never heard of them. I didn’t even know they were a genuine person until this thread! (Then again, that could just be a logical side effect of my complete lack of interest in sports in general, and the complete lack of TH outlets anywhere near where I live!)

This is my favourite example of the power of being able to explain niche things disconnected from the general public’s interest well. You turned a seemingly useless thing: a graph of Wikipedia articles into an amazing, engaging, and thought provoking, inspiring video, highlighting each of the things that you’ve explored, with perfect transitions for dramatic effect and amazing animations and visuals. This is a mind-blowing video, keep it up!

@euli_mo

Ай бұрын

Sound like chatgpt output 😂

@Avighna

Ай бұрын

@@euli_mo Well, it’s not.

@theoverreactor8731

Ай бұрын

ChatGPT ahh comment

@singularbear8656

Ай бұрын

​@@theoverreactor8731it's not, there is a ponctuation error. Why would he use ChatGPT anyways?

@aeniala6385

Ай бұрын

@@euli_mo so anyone who can put together three sentences that aren't basic af sounds like chatgpt, ok then

Great vid thanks. This vid reminds me of a Chart Party video from Jon Bois. The type of music, the voice over, the slow zoom-ins and zoom-outs, the insane amount of work and statistics. Great stuff

need a short series on this discussing as much as you possibly can. i was so hooked on this video.

you know you've made a good video when every second of it can become a wallpaper or a T-shirt

@funty420

Ай бұрын

Fantakuken wallpaper

@yomajo

29 күн бұрын

good luck with 1:36

@davisjian8250

28 күн бұрын

*DISGUISED DEAD END ORPHAN* 18:39

@LimeLoaf

26 күн бұрын

​@@davisjian8250id wear that

@ikwenmusic

26 күн бұрын

10:41 wallpaper

I think a way to find the absolute longest path would be to start at the "list of highways numbered 825" article and start mapping pathways backwards from there. Whatever you end up with, you can add the links from 825->999 to that

@colecancode

Ай бұрын

Longest path is an NP-hard problem, it would take an absurd amount of time on a graph like this.

@theworm7156

Ай бұрын

I went backwards from 825 and found 530 and it goes down from there

@jsax01001010

Ай бұрын

The path he found also starts with a small chain too, stepping through the articles, "Athletics at the [year] Arab games".

@geekjokes8458

Ай бұрын

like a highway

@Meme-2038

Ай бұрын

just start at number 1 and end up at 999

Absolutely outstanding work, well done and thank you. 10/10 for technicals, analysis, explanation, and visuals.

I found: Athletics at the 1953 Arab Games -> Athletics at the 2004 Arab Games -> United States -> List of district attorneys by county -> Lancaster County, Pennsylvania -> Pennsylvania Route 999 -> List of highways numbered 999

@mathematicskid

22 күн бұрын

It must have changed since the video was made, also it has changed back since you posted your comment

@rossjennings4755

19 күн бұрын

​@@mathematicskid This made me curious, so I checked the history page for "Pennsylvania Route 999". It has only been edited once since 2022, which was about 2 weeks ago, on April 8, 2024: after this video came out, but before OP's comment. This was an edit from user Nikitan3096 that removed a link to "List of highways numbered 999" from the "See also" section. So this path wasn't available in the graph because it didn't include "See also" links, and now it's not available at all because the link was removed.

@marcoshayman8535

18 күн бұрын

I think this is not what he meant, is not that the shortest path from "Athletics at the 1953 Arab Games" to "List of highways numbered 999" was 166, but rather the longer, meaning you couldn't find a longer path between those two articles without looping

@krugerstan

16 күн бұрын

@@marcoshayman8535 I don't think so. It's supposed to be the longest "shortest possible path" if that makes sense.

@mechm1nd

15 күн бұрын

It was in "See also" section which is excluded by rules explained in video

This graph is really beautiful, you should make it into a poster

@70sman

Ай бұрын

It's gorgeous, i hope he uploaded it to wikimedia commons

@pizza-hero1115

Ай бұрын

I would genuinely print it out and put it up on my wall

@markusszogi5722

Ай бұрын

Great visualisation! Would like to put it on my wall as food for thought poster.

@TextBoxxerHelloWorld

Ай бұрын

THEY FORGOT PHYSICS MATH BIOLOGY CHEMISTRY AND ALL OTHER SUBJECTS THAT ARE NORMALLY VERY THOUGHT BASED

@mosia2675

Ай бұрын

"What's on your wall?" "Oh nothing, just Wikipedia"

You just took a topic that I would probably spend my life without ever giving a single thought to, and made a video that was an absolute joy to watch. If there's a KZread Hall of Fame, this one belongs in it.

@HazhMcMoor

20 күн бұрын

This is even more impressive. He talks about something I've seen done to dead by lots of other people (see his cheeky reference to mildly interesting reddit) and it's still new and fresh to me. I almost don't watch this article but when I finally budge and I don't regret it.

This is an amazing (if not immediately useful) batch of data analysis. Additionally, it's very well presented. Nicely done.

Love the immense effort! I would love for this graph to be interactive. Also I was thinking, what if you could use the graph to insert your Wikipedia pages and see what the fastest path was, as a way to see how well you did in your wiki speedrun.

Absolutely fascinating video. The Fanta Cake bit at the end is a great example that for most orphans or dead ends, it's a matter of what could be considered bad article formatting/linking. I looked at the Wikipedia article for William Acton (senior) and someone has already destroyed the Acton group solitary-ness by adding links to the page for "Politics of England" off of the phrase "English politician" Great video! Fantastic work : )

@kmacgregor6361

Ай бұрын

My first thought too - this video is 5 days old, no way those Acton family articles are still their own group. Sure enough. ;)

@BramLastname

Ай бұрын

While those Acton links seem a bit forced to me, They did also link them to bailiff and Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Which they always should've been.

@Fire_Axus

Ай бұрын

real

@FireyDeath4

Ай бұрын

Solitude?

@retnoartanti1976

Ай бұрын

Fanta cakestic

It's so wholesome to see how after this video came out, people immediately went to the orphaned articles and linked them to others. It really goes to show just how much some people would do for others to not feel lonely; even when talking about mere articles. I know lately some of us can't see anything other than negativity around, but please don't forget kindness exists. People you don't even know yet may already be caring for you.

@Noway-sg8md

Ай бұрын

im pretty sure people took the opportunity to ruin them, no longer making them orphaned, spoiling the fun, but seems you have a brighter outlook

@revenevan11

29 күн бұрын

Reminds me of one of my favorite paper titles, something like: "Object Personification in Autism; this paper will be very sad if you don't read it." I heard about this paper from Bettina Levy's channel, she read out some tumblr posts about it. (I commented about it somewhere else months ago and still get notifications that I'm getting likes lol 😅). I'm glad these wikipedia editor volunteers are finding these poor orphaned articles some lovely links to care for them 🥺

@tyedie4490

29 күн бұрын

​@@Noway-sg8md New articles are being written everyday many are orphans and dead ends. I feel the fun is in the way it lives. It grows and expans as everyday people see something and decide to add it to the ever growing library. It's a sense of comunity and learning that is rare these days.

@cheesechess-tr7pd

27 күн бұрын

​@@Noway-sg8mdand the most pessimistic comment in the entire history of youtube is this comment. Wouldn't that make it more accessible

@RT-.

27 күн бұрын

@@cheesechess-tr7pd Yeah I agree, that's a sad way to see things

Did anyone ever play the "Wikipedia game" back in High School? Where you start at the same link with the guy you're competing with, and then whoever gets to the "desired page" or end topic first wins! Once they blocked pretty much every other thing on the internet at school back in the day... this game was where it was at!

@tsunoxx

18 күн бұрын

We called it the „Hitler game“ because that was always the desired page 💀

@d.b.624

18 күн бұрын

I used to play "6+ degrees"...you'd get two pages, and have to connect them. Hard mode was no "philosophy."

@calvinmills4069

16 күн бұрын

Did you watch the video? He explains the game in the video, specifically! Like, it's the whole reason the video exists XD

@user-xp5id1kh4r

16 күн бұрын

@@calvinmills4069 I must've zoned out on that part, lol. Cause all i was thinking about since clicking the thumb nail was "the Wikipedia game, the Wikipedia game, the Wikipedia game", so I probably just missed it

@user-xp5id1kh4r

15 күн бұрын

@@calvinmills4069 What was the timestamp on that?

This exactly answered all the questions and ideas I had playing wikipedia race. Amazing work!

Regarding about Fanta Cake page, the page has just updated again several times since the beginning of April, now the page is even expanded with more information in it (Soda Cake section added), "Fantakuchen" redirect page removed, and is neither Dead End nor Orphan page anymore, much like a normal article now!

@luiskerscher5047

25 күн бұрын

"f" for Fantakuchen😢

@dibujugador6024

21 күн бұрын

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭

@maksrambe3812

19 күн бұрын

​@luiskerscher5047 don't worry, I checked and fantakuchen still exists. Only the link to fantakuchen in the fanta cake page has been removed.

@luiskerscher5047

18 күн бұрын

@@maksrambe3812 Thank you, thats one issue off of my list. Well appreciated!

@realm0720

16 күн бұрын

we should call this process adoption💀

17:20 omg I just realized "fanta cake" was why I clicked on this thumbnail and for 17 minutes I was just lost in the sauce

@centurion_ceasar

Ай бұрын

Update: the fanta cake article is no longer a dead end, and now has 15 links.

@jonnamechange6854

Ай бұрын

Is googlewhacking an orphan an indictable offense?

This Video is OUTSTANDING. Your presentation, the beautiful graphics, the fitting music, your sense of visual style. It just really resonates with me. Thank you for your hard work!

this might be one of the coolest videos i've ever seen, fantastic stuff dude

as a student currently in alogrithms and graph theory this is insane. wonderful project and video man

@clamhammer2463

Ай бұрын

I was thinking that creating a graph database of this data might make for an interesting project.

I love how you went over so many different things related to the graph in this video. It really satisfied that curious urge you get when learning about something new

@Fire_Axus

Ай бұрын

your feelings are irrational

@deetvleet

Ай бұрын

@@Fire_Axus everyone's feelings are irrational, it came free with being a human

@scaleonkhan183

Ай бұрын

I agree, I really wanted to see it graphed and I got to see it!

@sid98geek

Ай бұрын

I wish social media, especially platforms other than KZread, had more fascinating stuff like this. I want to experience that childlike curiosity again!

Awesome analysis, this is really interesting work. I hope you continue to do more!

Fantastic video! Thank you for explaining how you made it in the description!

The amount of complex work this guy has presented here with understandable tone suggests that this can as well be a PhD thesis topic.

@childofnewlight

Ай бұрын

Seriously, he totally downplays the significance of what he's accomplished with this graph. There are so many fascinating insights here, not just about Wikipedia, but English-speaking culture.

@under_the_sun_

28 күн бұрын

Why would you say that? I wanted to understand your perspective 🤔

1. How many Wikipedia editors are now looking to make sure all pages are linked. Eliminating orphans and dead ends. 2. Wikipedia should add this somehow to give a visualization of its vast knowledge.

@redcoat4348

Ай бұрын

long-time wikipedia editor here. There have existed entire projects which have tried to eliminate orphan and dead end articles. At least for orphan articles I believe there are hidden categories that flag them. I think the OP could've made use of Wikiprojects in order to link related articles together instead of just using outbound links, though I guess that if his analysis is based on the wikipedia game that it makes sense why he wouldn't. Wikiprojects already give you something similar to his idea of "communities" of articles

@drbuckley1

Ай бұрын

@@redcoat4348 A more pressing problem is correction of false information.

@darrennew8211

Ай бұрын

Why eliminate orphans and dead ends? The entire internet is not just wikipedia links.

@halycon404

Ай бұрын

@@drbuckley1 Won't ever be fixed. People try, and I salute them for it. Wikipedia is a guidebook not an answer book. Wikipedia usually gives enough of an overview, correct or incorrect, to start looking up information elsewhere. Trying to make it an answer book is impossible.

@afluka

Ай бұрын

Before I even finished the video, I went to check on the Actons and found one of the pages edited an hour ago, adding more links. RIP community 42

I love that you've seemingly taken inspiration from Chart Party and Jon Bois with your choice of soundtrack. I don't know why lounge jazz works so well with data journalism but it just does

Interesting findings. This confirms my general thought that somebody who knows how Wikipedia handles linking to other articles can be leveraged to get to a intended destination article with minimal effort.

I can not express how joyful I am that Rugby, on its own, managed to become an entire category.

@Charmly7035

Ай бұрын

i had the exact same reaction, i love rugby

@dr.vikyll7466

Ай бұрын

Same with norwegian politics... on english wikipedia and I checked, it's very fleshed out.

@realtimestatic

Ай бұрын

same importance as category 42, 4 members of the former british parliament as an orphan group

@medicTF2.

Ай бұрын

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@em7dim9

Ай бұрын

And what is so special about Norwegian politicians versus the politicians of 200 other countries? It seems quite bizarre!

I originally thought this video wouldn't be too interesting, but I clicked on it out of curiosity (and like the saying goes, you had my curiousity but now you have my attention). The amount of detail, effort and production value put into this video astounded me and I was hooked. I also appreaciate the informative description. Thank you for this wonderful video. The only thing missing is the raw data and code.

@allahdoesnotexist3823

Ай бұрын

He also has BDE

Very interesting. Great work. I was surprised to not see anything about (and I understand this was not your aim) foundational topics that others link back to such as maths, science, religion, civilisation, animals, plants, life, etc., and of course the famous granddaddy that almost all articles are said to link to, philosophy. Of course they don't all link back to it, as demonstrated here. It might be worth making another video on the graph to delve into other types of relationships. Thanks for your entertaining and educational video

Just wanted to say that you picked some excellent music for this video. I'm a huge fan of instrumental funky jazz music and you killed it on all fronts.

The issue not explored is that there are Wikipedia editors who have an intense interest in one topic or narrow groups of topics. That shapes the style and linking for many groups of articles which become mainly the work of a single author. At 3:50 it's not at all surprising that the principal authors of articles on Association Football are completely different from the authors of Gridiron Football; each set of authors will know comparatively little about the other topic and will therefore be far less likely to cross-link them. If you want to look deeper into how editors shape articles, you will want to study the various Wikiprojects -- groups of editors who work together to improve a specific topic.

@johannageisel5390

Ай бұрын

Good point!

In the segment of “longest path” you should’ve more clearly said the “longest shortest path” (or: shortest path with the most nodes.) since obviously longer paths can exist if you just deviate away from the goal

@somedude4832

Ай бұрын

That seems like a given because if that weren’t the case almost any article could loop forever between 2 or 3 things. If you consider the path as not being able to repeat pages, that would likely be several million articles long.

@rickpgriffin

Ай бұрын

@@somedude4832 That'd also be the most nightmare-inducing Hamiltonian path problem possible

@anu7599

Ай бұрын

yea, but also to actually find the longest shortest past and not just guess that it was the 166 one shouldn t he had just picked a random page, do a bfs, go to the the page which was the farthest away and do a bfs again? And do it for all conex components

@luniba478

Ай бұрын

I'm actually kinda interested in the path since "list of highways numbered 1000" and "list of highways numbered 999." point at each other. If I'm not making a mistake this implies the same length from the start to either "list of highways numbered 998" and "list of highways numbered 1000." otherwise the path would be shorter or going to the next article would be a longer shortest path.

This was incredible, thank you for sharing it, it would be cool if Wikipedia adopts this idea and make an yearly update on the graph themselves, or maybe even live?

Absolutely incredible video. Can’t even comprehend the work that went into this!! Being a Wikipedia editor is one of the greatest joys!

You deserve an award for this work and this video! It is really interesting how some of the "communities" are structured. BTW: If you write up your findings in a Wikipedia page, linking to all the orphans in your graph, you would drastically reduce the number of orphans in Wikipedia.

@edopronk1303

Ай бұрын

That's brilliant!

@lajawi2115

Ай бұрын

I've commented this on another comment as well, but what about a page "List of Wikipedia Orphan Articles"! Same can be done for "List of Wikipedia Dead End Articles" lol

@darthpotatozqt

Ай бұрын

list of every wikipedia page

@BlueShadow7777

Ай бұрын

@@lajawi2115 Both of those pages already exist! The reason orphan articles don't become automatically un-orphaned from being in that list is because the list is not in the "main" Wikipedia space, but a special section of Wikipedia that has editing guides and the likes, and so it doesn't really count as a link

Dude. 200 views in an hour on this is *criminal*, this should be blowing up. I wouldn't be surprised if Ye Algorithme picks this up and it's in the 100,000s sooner or later.

@KayJblue

Ай бұрын

Honestly I can see this getting millions lmao.

@mxdanger

Ай бұрын

It could get way more but I personally think he really missed the mark with the thumbnail and title choice.

@BombsanTheCommenter

Ай бұрын

As a member of the thousands club I don't doubt the video could get 100,000 views given enough time

@pepsalt

Ай бұрын

@@BombsanTheCommenter ye, its a very unique and interesting video

@kevinslater4126

Ай бұрын

@@pepsalt It's also culturally significant and important. We few can say, I remember when that had only 3000 views!

this video is literally just you making an overcomplicated graph out of wikipidea and then making a video pointing out cool things about it, yet somehow its one of the most entertaining things ever watched

Thx for your reasearch, I love wikipedia, always found it hard to explain to people why, this makes it not a bit easier, but it was interesting.

I wasn't thinking it was a waste of time, I was thinking that it was beautiful and looked like a universe.

@paulmccartney2327

Ай бұрын

Why do you have 3 furaffinity accounts

@paulmccartney2327

Ай бұрын

what is wrong with you

@paulmccartney2327

Ай бұрын

Why are you a broken human being

@paulmccartney2327

Ай бұрын

>Springing a leak

@paulmccartney2327

Ай бұрын

>Sparkly skunk mascot~

one of the most well made youtube videos on data visualisation i have ever seen. good job

@jamescollier3

24 күн бұрын

there's a website that does this for any link

bro ur mini musical interludes r impeccable

I'm impressed by all the work that went into this video. It answered so many questions I'd had about Wikipedia!

Absolutely amazing video. Can finally beat my friends at the wikipedia game for the first time

@badgermcbadger1968

Ай бұрын

You mean the one where you need to search for links to get you to a goal article? You can cheat by editing the original article and adding the link to the goal article

@Laezar1

Ай бұрын

@@badgermcbadger1968 why would you though?

@badgermcbadger1968

Ай бұрын

@@Laezar1 because i find it boring and it's pretty funny the first time

@Laezar1

Ай бұрын

@@badgermcbadger1968 you don't have to play a game you find boring though xD you can just tell your friends no, it's not like it's a tournament with prize money on the line or anything, all you'll get by cheating is break the trust of your friends. Idk that just seems like a really strange and low stake situation to cheat in.

@koks49045

Ай бұрын

the problem with this game is most articles are some random weird stuff like list of something or a village, if there was a fillterted version where only articles that are like concepts or some important stuff like country existed, then it would make sense, but also like each article should have atmost 10 hyperlinks that link to stuff that is rly related

There's something beautiful about how telling us of this information causes alot of it to be improved on.

Such a cool idea! Despite it not really being feasible, I’d love to see this in some form of interactive website, where you could see all the connections between articles and all the different groups.

That was actually really eye opening. Didn't expect that at the first glance. Thx for your efforts. God bless you!

Wow! This is probably the most beautiful presentation of connected data I've ever seen. Would be awesome if you were able to make this into an interactive website 👀

@veenmikki27

Ай бұрын

That would be super awesome

Your editing and sound editing in this highly commendable by the way. Extraordinarily smooth and intentionally timed without being too obnoxious in anyway.

Insane video, you should be proud. This is the kind of work that showcases somthing like youtube can be a source of very real art and insights

This was a beautiful project. Love the visualisation of the data.

this was really interesting. Also, as a German, your pronaunciation of "Kuchen" sounded really cute for some reason.

Great video. Superb yet subtle editing skills. The kind where you dont even notice how good it was. Also the jazz was a killer choice.

Great video! I might share this with my Applied Maths class to show them how graph theory is relevant

This is one of the most interesting videos I've stumbled upon in a long time! Absolutely fantastic..

Community number 42 is about family, how poetic 🥰

@BramLastname

Ай бұрын

It's also no longer in isolation, Well, okay, as far as I could find it's still impossible to get in, But you can get out of the community now.

@johannesandersson9477

Ай бұрын

Unexpected intersection of Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy and Fast & Furious 😄

@melitajay

Ай бұрын

​@@johannesandersson9477Is that how many of those films there is now? 😂

@dielaughing73

28 күн бұрын

"What do you get if you multiply six by nine?"

@BramLastname

28 күн бұрын

@@dielaughing73 69?

can I like... buy a poster of this?

Delivery and stylistically, this reminds me so much of Jon Bois. Great stuff!

I just found out about your channel, and I love your content. please do more of your content 🙏🙏

I need an overtime with how this graph changes. Great work. This is actually extremely important and someone needed to make this. Seriously good job.

The articles on the Altons made me think of constelations and galaxies. Like how most stars are bound together by gravity in galaxies and clusters, but then you have intergalatic or rogue stars, that are just not bound to any galaxy. I just find neat how we can find similar patterns in so different parts of reality.

@TheSoftwareNerd

Ай бұрын

Well, now the Actons are not an orphan group anymore.

@shivanshtomar18

Ай бұрын

You might like emergent phenomenon and universality of dynamical system

@qwertydavid8070

Ай бұрын

The idea of an intergalactic rouge star is kinda terryfing. Like, how did it even get there?? Why did it just get lost. Is it just incredibly ancient and has just always been there since the beginning of the universe? Or did some ungodly cataclysmic event rip it out of it's galaxy? How do you even rip a star out of it's own galaxy?? It's easy to imagine rouge planets. You hear about them all the time. Galaxies are relatively dense so it's easy to imagine how a passing star could rip a planet out of it's home system. But even then, rouge planets still exist within their own galaxies. What ungodly apocalyptic catastrophe has to occur for a star to end up in intergalactic space???

@a2izzard

Ай бұрын

​@@qwertydavid8070It's actually pretty dull. They just get to close to a supermassive blackhole at a wrong angle, and they're sent flying off!

@qwertydavid8070

Ай бұрын

@@a2izzard It's still crazy that their sent flying off all the way into intergalactic space. Galaxies are humongous, you'd think that along the way the star would eventually get attracted by the gravitational pull of the galaxy itself. Then again, for as big as they are, galaxies are still mostly empty. It's like how neutrinos can seemingly phase through matter. They are just so tiny that things that appear solid to us just aren't to them. The gaps between atoms are like the gaps between planets at that scale. I guess stars are just so tiny when compared to an entire galaxy that they can just pass through without interacting with anything.

Would love a video going into a deep dive if the code and algorithms you used!

Ive not gotten a chance to watch this video but I need you to understand this sort of graph is exactly Ive craved to see.

Took a complex graph theory class in college and loved creating / analyzing these node graphs. Your videos are awesome!

This is some beyond level data scraping and analyzing. Well done adumb! Diving into your other videos now.

istg every time i made myself a question you went ahead and answered it. great video

Beautiful analysis. It almost inspires me to make a Wikipedia page for this video and link every other Wikipedia page to it, making it a Singularity Dead End, the restaurant at the end of Wikipedia.