Side note on Jerry Goff, his son is Lions quarterback Jared Goff

@thecaveman3503

Жыл бұрын

Didnt ask

And I thought George Foster calling the Mets racist when they benched him for Kevin Mitchell was crazy...

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Not, nearly, as crazy as him being the only player on, The, Big Red Machine, to hit 50 HRs, just absolutely stunning.

@CTubeMan

Жыл бұрын

Like Martinez, Foster tried to walk back his comments, and got released by the Mets as a result.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@CTubeMan Didn't help that he, was, just about finished, if he'd kept his mouth shut, he'd have gotten a third, Ring, totally, awful.

@TPTGopher

Жыл бұрын

@Matthew Daley He was basically finished a few weeks earlier when he sat on the bench during a brawl with the Reds, but tha dumbassery was the difference between relegated to the bench and cut...as for the '77 accolade you mention, as great as the Big Red Machine was, when it comes to Rose/Morgan/Perez/Concepcion/Foster/Griffey the only "slugger" I really think of is the latter's 1st-grader.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@TPTGopher That team, never, really, recovered, from, the, indefensible, knee-jerk, decision to fire Sparky Anderson, changing the fates of, two, franchises.

You really have to feel for Santovenia here. Not only is he being demoted because he's in a bad slump, but now he's being brought up in all this BS that's not of his own doing

@matpitch-id3pp

Жыл бұрын

I don't practice Santovenia, I ain't got no crystal ball

@matpitch-id3pp

Жыл бұрын

Jokes apart... he was replaced by #13 Rick Cerone right? Is my memory ok?

@matpitch-id3pp

Жыл бұрын

7:00 ok not yet... i've stepped into the whole thing in 1992

I miss the Expos.

@SSNESS

3 ай бұрын

Mendoza line, no pun

There was a journalist in the Montreal newspapers later said in a expos documentary he said "Dennis Martinez was at his best when he was upset or when he had something to say that was controversial "

Imagine a team with Dennis Martinez Randy Johnson and a sober Pascual Perez with Jeff Fassero John Wetteland in the wings. That would been a filthy pitching staff. That Langston trade in 89 set the franchise back

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Playing in a city that cared about hockey, (and, absolutely nothing else), set the franchise back, Toronto only stayed in town, because, of the, Mini-Dynasty, The, Strike, merely, hastened a departure that, was, already, inevitable, when you have, bigger, crowds in Puerto Rico, it's clear your failure is complete, period.

@SamtheBravesFan

Жыл бұрын

Question is how long would they have been patient with Johnson to find his control?

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@@SamtheBravesFan As far as the Expos, were, concerned, whatever, would have been the absolute right thing to do, they'd, surely, have done the exact opposite.

@SPTO

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 I think that's a bit harsh there as the attendance wasn't great (they were among the bottom rung) it was at least consistent up until '97. Factors such as star players leaving in droves, a dilapidated stadium and being in a bad part of town doesn't help. If the Expos had been given a chance at winning a championship in '94 we'd have seen a new outdoor stadium and an influx of fan interest. Also your claim about the Blue Jays is completely off base. The Jays were among sellers from '84 to '98 where they averaged more than 30K fans a game. They're pulling very good numbers today and the makeup of that crowd has ZERO to do with the '92-'93 demo as the Jays have one of the younger fanbases around. They've averaged more than 30K fans a game since 2013 with the exception of '14 (where they were literally under a thousand patrons from hitting a 30K average) '18 and '19 where the on field product wasn't good. (Can't really count '20 and '21) Last year the Jays were 3rd in attendance.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@SPTO Fair enough, but, the Expos have only themselves to blame, nobody forced them to strike, and, there's no guarantee they'd have, won, in their, first, opportunity, the real victims, were, the White Sox, Toronto's run, was, just about up, anyway, because, Duane Ward's arm exploded, period, oddly, enough, Tampa Bay succeeds, despite, a, rather, indifferent, fanbase, plus, gagging, against, the Mariners will, truly, hurt them, unquestionably.

Saying everything you don't like is racist? Sounds like El Presidente was ahead of his time.

He was made because they sent his bro down to Triple-A and thought he could use his popularity to keep him around. The Expos clearly did it because he was in a slump and it was hurting the team. I remember Santovenia--the guy could do the job defensively. He had value even if he didn't hit much, especially if he's the personal catcher for your ace. But there's no justifying .155. You have to do better than that.

@crowtservo

Жыл бұрын

Both fangraphs and baseball reference says he was below average defensively in 1990. So yeah, he was hurting the team.

@lbrad2001

Жыл бұрын

Marcell Ozuna would like a word

I didn't know El Presidente fixed his mouth to spout that BS! No wonder the Expos put a gag order on him. I'm black and one-quarter Cuban and I can safely say that Santovenia was demoted for a legit reason (awful hitting) and not due to his Latin American heritage. That even "Big Cat" Andrés Galarraga, who's from Venezuela, said that Santovenia's demotion to AAA had nothing to do with racism says a lot. The catcher being promoted back to the Expos after about a week made Martinez look even crazier.

Sounds like Dennis Martinez would fit in perfectly with today's society crying racism over any little thing.

The only thing that was somewhat questionable by the Expos in this area was waiting so long to give Felipe Alou the managerial job after he had more than paid his dues.

Love your stuff JG! Would you be open to covering something about the impact of the french language on the CFL and/or Canada based teams?

@rocketsfan05

Жыл бұрын

Especially the Expos. As a Nats fan they fascinate me. DM me if you want help with the research

@rocketsfan05

Жыл бұрын

and no, I'm not @LillyAlexandre

I was an Oriole fan and loved Dennis Martinez......however as a kid one day while the game was going on I was walking around the outside of the stadium. Dennis was in uniform standing at a service entrance. I watched him for a while and it looked like he exchanged money for a small package. Even as a kid I thought it might be drugs. Years later after he left a lot of stories came out about his drug and alcohol problems. Likely he was making a drug purchase and likely he did it in front of very young fans. He had some issues.

Reminds me of when the Mets cut George Foster in 1986, and replaced him in the lineup with 2 black players (Mookie Wilson & Kevin Mitchell in a platoon).. Foster said the Mets cut him cause they were racist because his roster spot was filled by Lee Mazzilli, a white guy. Foster was clearly washed up.. He was in a DEEP slump when cut, had alienated many teammates and the last straw was when the Mets got in a bench clearing brawl and Foster sat on the bench. and watched.. They were trying to trade him, but no team would take him in a trade. After the Mets cut him, he played 15 games for the White Sox and his career was over.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Henry Aaron, never, hit 50 HRs, and, won, only, one, World Series, this guy, did hit 50 HRs, and, won, two, World Series, (and, nearly, three), baseball is, truly, unfair.

Bill stone man pitched 2 no hitters while pitching for the expos

@martincruz8319

Жыл бұрын

Dennis Martinez threw a Perfect Game. Like four-of-a-kind beats a full house in poker, a Perfect Game trumps a pair of no-no's. Just my opinion. Bill Stoneman was a fantastic pitcher for Montréal, but Martinez had arguably the best pitched game in the Expos history,

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Ramon Martinez threw two, no-hitters, his brother, Pedro, threw, zero, somehow, nobody, thinks he, was, the, better, pitcher, coincidence, I think, not.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@@martincruz8319 Yeah, no-hitters, unquestionably, random.

There is, and always will be racism in all sports. But this ain’t it chief. Reminds me of Angel Hernandez calling the MLB racist for not letting him ump a WS. And then the MLB won the lawsuit because the judge ruled it was actually cause he was the worst ump in baseball

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that, was, as, Karmically, hilarious, as when the whole umpire's union threatened to resign, to which, MLB, said, "Deal."

@KazeShikamaru

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@@KazeShikamaru Just a perfect decision.

@robertcropley7714

Жыл бұрын

Further support for the ball club is the obvious factor that they're giving the player an opportunity to get a handle on the issues going on with his performance decline and not choosing to unload him via trade or by DFA'ing him instead. In other words they value him and want very much for him to fix things in order to be productive when clearly they have the option of just getting rid of him one way or another. In addition, pro athletes have an expectation to be accountable for their productivity as evidenced by the fact that the guy wasn't arguing that his demotion was unjustified.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@@robertcropley7714 Seriously, totally, absurd, protesting.

I can understand Martinez being upset there but yeah, that's a joke of a claim by him. This isn't the only time where racism was brought up with a Canadian team. There was the whole "White Jays" fiasco in 2003.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Toronto's a, bad, joke, today, their, "fans," are, the, most, obnoxious, I've, ever, seen, technically, the Mariners, beat, them in the, Playoffs, in reality, they, were, defeated, by, Karma, period.

@SPTO

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 More obnoxious than Yankees or Red Sox fans? Surely you jest.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@SPTO No, but, those teams, won, the, World Series, in the, last, twenty seasons, so, there's that, if absolutely nothing else.

someone should have asked Dennis Martinez are you ok?

@tigercap100

Жыл бұрын

"You mad bro?" 😂

In 95 he also threw a perfect game

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Ron Hassey, was, the only player to catch two, Perfect Games, he, also, caught Len Barker's, Perfect Game, in 1981, and, won, the 1989, World Series.

@jaredkustron7696

Жыл бұрын

Dennis Martinez threw a perfect game in 1991

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

@@jaredkustron7696 El Presidente, awesome moniker.

El Presdentia has arugement for the Hall of Fame

We haven’t seen a baseball video in a while

martinez was right, offense is about the last thing you judge a catcher on and looking at the stats goff was much worse defensive catcher, so much so that the expos never played him at that position in the future.

0:25 El Presidente, el perfecto

@matpitch-id3pp

Жыл бұрын

The bond between a pitcher and a catcher are strong. Dennis has lost his catcher and he reacted... ok... not in the most glorious way, but yet I understand why he was upset. Said catcher being latin too just made the reaction harder... luv you Dennis

@matpitch-id3pp

Жыл бұрын

I would demote my own son if he ain't fit for the team

9:13 -- Yet if an MLB player gets a hit in 40% of his at-bats...

I always remember growing up in the 1980s the Expos and Bluejays were always minority majority 🇨🇦

#YeahSendMe!

They aren't racist but I wouldn't call the Expos a good organization. Let's pumps the breaks guys. Their uniforms were sick though.

@matthewdaley746

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and, while, we're, on the subject, nobody forced them to strike, they, gambled, and, lost, teams, rarely, win, in their, first, appearance, anyway, and, it would only have hastened their demolition, Montreal cares about hockey, period, the real victims, were, the White Sox, who saw their, last, year of contention wasted.

@montrealmark1994

10 ай бұрын

@@matthewdaley746 This is a laughable statement. The Expos were far and away the best team in baseball in 1994 and clearly victimized by the work stoppage more than anyone else. Sure, the players weren't forced to go on strike and many of them lost their best ever chance to win a World Series as a result, but screw the players and the owners, the real victims were clearly us diehard Expos fans who not only got shafted out of seeing our best ever team finish the season but then also had to sit by and watch while ownership dismantled the team and sold off four of our best players (Grissom, Walker, Hill and Wetteland) before the 1995 season ever started, effectively sending them from first-to-worst in the NL East. From there, baseball in Montreal never fully recovered. The Expos played 10 more seasons after 1994 and only had a winning record in 3 of those ('96, '02 and '03), falling short of 70 wins 6 times . Plus, the Expos' 1994 schedule was backloaded with home games and they lost the revenue for 29 home games at a time when they were packing the house. Even if they hadn't won the whole thing (and they would've), just to be deprived of seeing that team finish the season and make the postseason for the first time since 1981 was a crushing disappointment. To then see their fortunes turn so dramatically in one year was a huge slap in the face, and it began the slow descent to the team's demise. People who think Montreal is only a hockey town have no clue about the passion Montrealers had for the Expos. From their early days as lovable losers playing at Jarry Park, where they first earned their permanent nickname "Nos Amours" (our beloveds) to their prime years from 1979-1994 when they won more regular season games than any other MLB team and often outdrew the Yankees and Mets, to the bitter end when there were only a few of us diehards left, the Expos were a huge part of the city. I'm a Montrealer and grew up a Habs fan but the Expos were first in my heart by a mile. I would've traded ten of our Stanley Cups for just one World Series. It never happened, mostly because of the 1994 strike. By the way, the Expos moved to Washington in 2005, the year the White Sox won the World Series. Looks like you White Sox fans recovered just fine. Meanwhile, a little over ten years after having the best team in baseball the Expos were dead and gone. If the strike didn't happen the team is still there, there's no doubt in my mind. As Pedro Martinez said, "if that '94 team had been kept together the Yankees wouldn't be talking about how many World Series they won in the 90's". And we wouldn't have been talking about all the empty seats at Olympic stadium in the years following either. All the Expos fans who were turned off of baseball by the events of 1994, and all the young kids in the city who would've become fans but didn't because of what happened, all of it hinged on strike and the consequences of cancelling that season. No team's fans in any other sport have ever been dealt such an unjust, cruel kick in the teeth. Case closed. Not even up for debate.

@matthewdaley746

10 ай бұрын

@@montrealmark1994 Yours, more, laughable, unquestionably.

First

Dennis Martinez was way ahead of his time.

He'd make a great 21st century democrat.