Nothing against some of the other great vendors out there, but i love my Easton FMJs. I will add that I am a patriotic American but no longer insist on Made in America. This is for several reason to include a general lack of quality and increased price. Anyone should be smart enough to remain in business using principles you cover continuously. Ego has no place in success. I also believe in getting the most for my money(duh) and enjoy quality products made from smart, hard working people. It is not all sweat shops, lol. NOT bashing anyone, just sharing. I always watch your videos and learn something. They are never a waste of my time. Thank you.

Easton have been some of the best arrows I've ever used!

I really like my mid-priced Easton Sonic 6.0 arrows. In America there is the concept of premium pricing (snobbery). For certain items, some buyers don't go below certain price points. For example, when buying a tennis racket, many won't consider anything below $100 msrp (although always eager to buy marked down on sale). If we need arrows for a new $1,200 bow, we are willing to pay more for premium arrows. It's largely psychological, as a cheaper brand might in fact be better.

@electoplater

Жыл бұрын

the problem is most clubs in the uk wont allow the use of carbon arrows in the uk

@alantitter7879

Жыл бұрын

@@electoplater In Australia Longbow archers are not allowed to compete with anything but feather fletched wood or aluminium arrows.Carbon shafts are taboo for competitions.

@Danny-el8ww

Жыл бұрын

I literally shoot blackout arrows, they're literally just gold tip hunters but $5 less, I just make sure to ask them not to install anything cause cabelas workers suck. I haven't noticed a difference other than it's not upsetting if I break one. I don't think the average shooter needs anything better

My local bow shop is one of the number 1 dealers in the state and can barely keep Easton arrows in stock. Having shot a lot of the brands including specialized, customized arrow companies (I literally have at least 10 different brands set up for shooting) I find for me, my top is the Easton 4mm axis and the pro comp. In rivaled performance (hunting and target) but everyone has their own faves.

@savedgesurvive

Жыл бұрын

I still have never shot a 4mm. I'm so invested in my set up and broadheads. I go 5mm axis MG & 5mm axis fmj MG. With the ironwill broadheads 125 and ti impact. With the 50 grain brass insert on both

@rogerramjet7567

Жыл бұрын

I shoot the Fmj 4mm 001 and NOTHING COMPARES. I WILL HUNT THEM. !! Don’t know what this blok is talking about.

Easton is still really big in America. I think Easton, Victory, and Gold Tip are the top 3. Impressive selection you have there. I love it. Keep up the good work.

Easton are pretty much the only choice for us. We shoot at a school. We have a 100% carbon arrow ban. There are no lost arrows at the end of the day. To the point. If the school finds an arrow after we have left, we instantly loose our shoot venue. We have been known to stay a few hours after shooting stops just looking for lost aluminium arrows, carbon would be all but impossible to find with the metal detectors.

Steven, here in America, Easton does offer factory made arrows and bare shafts both in the stores.

@janickgonzalez3054

Жыл бұрын

Dude thinks Easton Is really loosing ground.

@michaelrobinson6988

Жыл бұрын

@@janickgonzalez3054 👍 yea, and it’s not the case at all. I like his videos for the most part but Steven can be biased on products, depending on how things worked out for him in the past. I know he doesn’t particularly care for Mathews and Easton. Loves PSE and Elite though.

@janickgonzalez3054

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrobinson6988 we have the same mentallity 110percent

@janickgonzalez3054

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelrobinson6988 i mean there are no top level archers using fivics AND that brand name doesn't even exist over here(not literally just hyperboly).

@michaelrobinson6988

Жыл бұрын

@@janickgonzalez3054 👍 Some of the Chinese and other brands I’ve never heard of at all. I think he just gets soured when companies won’t give him distributor or takes it away like Easton and Mathews have in the past and I’m sure I’m leaving out some.

Absolutely fascinating Steve! Please do more videos like this. I make up my own competition arrows, and was very happy to switch from Carbon Ones to VAP's, and save a few bucks too 17:49 . Buying a trad bow and not wanting to mess around fletching feathers, I recently bought two 6 arrow sets of the Black Eagle Vintage arrows, pre fletched. These are an amazing looking arrow and tick all the boxes. The only downside was you had limited stock in my spine, so had to go for two different colour schemes, as well as had to get inserts from another dealer (wanted heavy inserts). I am so happy with these arrows, and they will now be my go to trad arrows. Just beautiful! Many thanks mate!

Back in 1971-1973 I shot outdoor field and indoor target at our clubhouse. Outdoor field was a 28 target range, with ranges between 3 yards and 80 yards. All targets were plain paper targets. I don't remember if my area had 3-D targets yet. Our indoor range was set up for the Robin Hood shoot...10, 20, and 30 yards. My last meet there was the Robin Hood. I used Easton X-7 Aluminum arrows. My bow was an American Supreme 38 pound 72" recurve. No sight and pure instinctive. Just an adjustable stabilizer. I shot 89 out of 90 arrows into the little bull but walked away from the meet without firing the last arrow at the 30 yd. target. There were 2 12 yo kids, one on either side of me who totally wrecked my calm. One kid stuck an arrow to the face of his bow and blew the arrow and bow up. The other kid had a bad habit of tilting his bow toward me and his bow tip ended up between my string and bow face. After the bow blew up, on my 90th arrow, I could not hold the bow steady so I just walked out. I still won the club trophy on points but never picked it up because I didn't shoot the last arrow, I always use that analogy when something happens that I must walk away from. If asked "what did you do?", I just say I haven't shot the last arrow yet. I did very well though and won (in my class) a double, American round. 40, 50 and 60 yard outdoor shoot. My best end was the last end at the 60 yard target. I got 6 gold with the bow that was 3 inches longer than I was tall.

I went from Easton aluminum to victory carbon arrows, and it was night and day difference in quality and performance .

Easton out sells here in the United States because it's the only arrows made in the the USA while the rest is made in Mexico, China and Asia Easton 360 spine manufacturing is fibers that are pulled instead of wrapping over a mandrel having a seam inside the shafts we look at quality control closely

@jasonteebo1437

Жыл бұрын

Are they all made in the u s ..just curious because I heard 100 % carbon was illegal to produce in the u s

@raymondjones6024

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonteebo1437 just Easton is made in the USA

Interesting, I love your takes, and it is important that these stories be considered. As a US consumer, I tried last year to MITUSA my entire archery/hunting set up. Not from a thumping perspective but to shop as local as possible. Very difficult and very expensive. 4mm Long Range Axis was the arrow system, and found the carbon to be far more brittle in 4mm, always chips on the nock ends. X Impact hasn’t experienced that issue.

@josephtreadlightly5686

Жыл бұрын

I have 250 spine X-Impact's & 400 spine for my recurve. For decades I shot ACC shafts & made them myself. All but 4 bent just behind the insert. B4 that I shot the original Beman arrows & I'm sure I went away from them cuz of availability. Love the Victory VAP TKO & Xtorsion shafts I've also made. I bought some Delta 3D targets a few years ago. I can tell how desperate Easton is to drum up business by the amount of emails I get from Easton that I swipe left off my 📱 nearly everyday. 😮

Intersting video, it's completely different in my experience as a Canadian - Easton still dominates here.

Great, great video! This Easton issue is classic. I worked for a company (not archery related) that had an excellent high end quality product that dominated the industry for decades. HOWEVER, competition arrived in the market with less expensive product and a greater range of products to address a diverse market. The company refused to change, and their market share eroded . In the end the company I worked for was bought out, down sized etc. This sounds exactly where Easton is going i.e. stuck in the mud, doing the same old , same old.

I ended up with my uncle's old archery gear, got the longbow restrung for my use, and found an Easton Eagle 2117 in his old quiver. Super light aluminum shaft, I love how it feels to pull from the quiver and balance just feels great in my hands in ways the carbons I've played with in the stores just don't. If only he hadn't blown up a firecracker in the notch end. I went looking for replacements and found this video, and they basically don't seem to exist here in the USA either. That sucks something fierce.

Victory, gold tip, black eagle, Easton in my opinion are all interchangeable with every diameter gold tip arrow seam to have a weaker spine than the ones I mentioned above the Easton fmj are excellent hunting arrows so are the victory vaps they all shoot extremely well

In Ontario Canada Easton still are in the top arrow's used (in my area) I shoot with a group of 6-8 people and I belive there of them shoot Easton and most are hunter's Our dealer/ shop are a Gold Tip dealer with excess to other brands saling both ready made and baer shafts Would your distance away also help in the demise of Easton ? ie: shipping cost'sand other factors And now more than ever things are tight $$$$$$ Good to see you back your helper did a great job

Hey Steve. Received my Tbow (Hoyt Satori) and it's fantastic to shoot. Your review was spot on with the description and the performance. Very happy with my purchase.

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

It's a great bow.

@shinigami1925

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale You mean "fake" bow.

It must be different in the States because all the shops carry Easton. I have been using the Axis for years and see no reason to change. They are a little more expensive but in my opinon are worth it. I am sure they cannot compete with cheap chinese shafts but I'm do not shop at a pro shop if I want cheap chinese pre cut, pre boxed shafts ill shopp online.

Easton are still the most common arrow in the UK, but they've shot themselves in the foot by reducing their range. In the UK a lot of clubs (nearly all in my area) hire school fields for outdoor shooting and than means all carbon arrows are out. So you either stick with Ali or go Ali-Carbon composites. Almost everyone who was getting to longer distances seamed to go for ACC or the slightly more expensive ACG 's a few years ago, including me. They were a bit more than Ali but not ridiculous. However they've now discontinued those and if you're a recurve shooter you now have to fork out almost £500 on a set of ACE or go for the slightly cheaper (but still way more than the ACC) Procomp which is really designed for a compound bow. This is letting in the cheaper brands and judging by our club members recent purchases they are missing out on more and more sales. Madness.

Where I'm from in the USA Easton is still a top manufacturer. The Easton axis is probably the most popular hunting shaft in America. The only brand that is beating them in the tournament scene is black eagle. I think the popularity of each brand also depends on who's selling the arrows. If a shop owner likes gold tip he'll have his guys use gold tip and they'll push the brand. Subsequently Easton and black eagle are my two favorite brands. The top manufacturers here in the USA are Easton, black eagle, victory, and gold tip.

@Bdf3604

Жыл бұрын

I shoot the axis too. I live not far from Lancaster Archery. I wanted a new arrow and their pro shop steered me to Easton Axis 4mm long range match grade.

@kennethosborne6497

Жыл бұрын

You should say usa branded, not manufactured.

I've been shooting for over 50 years and your right about Easton. That's all there was back in the day but I rarely see their arrows being used here in the US today.

@wcwcgarner2717

Жыл бұрын

Easton is used alot in the USA as a hunting arrow. The Easton axis 5mm match is what I shoot and they are the best on the market in my opinion. Alot of people at my archery club. Shoot Easton as well

@warcriminal7976

Жыл бұрын

​@@wcwcgarner2717 Absolutely agree 💯

Here in Europe the situation differs, Easton is the brand you will find at any archery store in all flavors. Goldtip is still common but only a fraction of the program and spins, Victory and fourths brand may be optional. At the line in my archery club it either Easton, Goldtip or some Chinese knockoff, which can be fine arrows when properly prepared😁

Steve, all the top archers internationally use x10s or black eagles equivalent. You are right in several price categories they don’t win. Remember they are made in the USA. Different labour costs too. Do we want all Chinese bows too? Don’t agree with you in part. Comparing a bmw to a Kia. Different markets for different people. But I do like you to point out the issues and would love them to be cheaper! Good video and talking points for people

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

I loved Australian made cars - parts were cheap. To have my Merc worked on costs a fortune, which is why it is been sold. Saying that most Australian purchased imported cars, so now we dont make cars. Yes very different cost base. For me it is just interesting watching things change. My new car has a 10 year warranty. Dont get me wrong I think Easton is huge - but they should be looking to compete. They should be looking at the market and working out how to increase sales. From my view - I think Easton have become lazy. Maybe it is just in Australia. But why dont Easton have all made up arrows to sell to all the market.

@joshwebb6255

Жыл бұрын

They must have read your mind Steve! “Vector” arrow is a fully fletches arrow ready to go. Not sure how that competes though. I wonder if in the USA the buy USA works more in their favour there compared to here. Marketing always seems to be focused on that market or top level performers maybe?

@sahhull

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale has Holden gone? I live in the UK. Mercedes are expensive to fix or service everywhere. Can't beat that Mercedes service with a snarl attitude too.

@sahhull

Жыл бұрын

@@joshwebb6255 I presume the top archers are sponsored, so they may be given huge discounts on the arrows to use or even get them free. Im sure if a bow/arrow company wanted to sponsor my archery hobby... I'd happily use whatever they provided. I know a sponsored archer... The shop gives him a discount on all new archery kit ... Free shop made strings and cables. (good job... The amount of issues he has with his strings and cables. I wouldnt buy them)

We use to bag Beman carbon and Cartel Aluminium Carbon, but years later going through the club members old collections and we found a high survival rate of Beman Flash and Cartel Triples. and some of our early best scores were shot with them.

Where I’m at in the US, the big 3 brands are Easton, Gold Tip, and Victory. Just down the road at one of the pro shops (we have two in town), you can pick up Easton products that are functionally the equivalent of everything that you’ve shown here.

@caseysmith544

Жыл бұрын

Same for my area but you can add the cheaper brands like Fleetwood or Linkboy to the list that people get online.

@ultimatejay

Жыл бұрын

and you forgot Black Eagle

@caseysmith544

Жыл бұрын

@@ultimatejay not for South Dakota bows, maybe for Crossbow but not bows. I did forget the cheaper Sheel's that are either Victory, Easton, or Gold Tip arrows with really bad wrap job that the spine needs to be measured do to the bad wrap job. Cabela's/Bass Pro as well but those are actual factory mistakes that you could have an arrow broken when you get a set of 6/12.

@ultimatejay

Жыл бұрын

@@caseysmith544 Ever heard of Paige Pearce? She is like the best female archer in the world and shoots for Bowtech and she shoots Black Eagle. Black Eagle is very well know in the US. Where have you been?

Here in western NY we have more Easton arrows then you could imagine. All models too.

I think this is Australia specific. In the UK Easton is still pretty much the main arrow brand. There are other options, I shoot Nano XR’s. But the X10 is the choice of top shooters here still.

@sahhull

Жыл бұрын

Most UK archery clubs shoot at schools, park sports fields. They rarely have their own ground. So most UK clubs have 100% carbon arrow bans. As lost arrows are a big danger to other users of the venue. Alu or alu/carbon are the only choice and Easton are the only accessible manufacturer.

@vaazig

Жыл бұрын

​@@sahhull Not necessarily true. We do have Merlin as well. A lot of people in our club have purchased the new alimax arrows that sell for £149 a dozen.

@shaungallagher7488

Жыл бұрын

​@@sahhull try merlin new arrow similar to Easton acg but cheaper and it alu/carbon too

@enrique6335

Жыл бұрын

Gotta remember that X10s are not cheap and top archers are likely sponsored by Easton to use them so of course they'll take it. One has to wonder what top archers would use if they all of a sudden had to use their own cash to buy arrow shafts.

@ensardafae

Жыл бұрын

In My club easton don't have many shooters anymore even the top archers are shooting skylon paragons and getting fantastic results at like £400 cheaper. Now easton no longer make acc's or acg's there is a gaping hole in their lineup that others like Merlin are filling which is also what I'm thinking of switching to over ACG's

Competition is a good thing. BTW, maybe demise is a bit premature, how about "decline". They are doing pretty well otherwise (they do own Hoyt). I clicked on this video thinking they had ceased to exist based on the word usage.

The biggest problem we have in the UK is that most competitions will not allow you to shoot fully carbon arrows , so we have to shoot C/A arrows . Not many manufacturers produce Carbon/Aluminium arrows , and with easton now stopping the ACC series it has had a massive impact in the UK as the only option are the top of the range ACE/procom/X10 which are so expensive. So a bit of a problem specific to the UK I think , lined to multi use playing fields used to run archery competitions , so all carbon are hard to find with metal detectors. All a bit of a mess here in the UK

@thegman21279

Жыл бұрын

Merlin Alimax are the way to go as almost identical to ACC but far cheaper. Bought a dozen as down to last 7 ACCs and wont be going back. Definitely recommend the Alimax now.

In Japan we still see a lot of Easton arrows at the clubs, but Skylon is starting to come on really strong. I saw some Victory and GoldTip a few years ago but don't see them as often now. I'm still enjoying my Easton CarbonOne arrows for my compound target bow, but I think next time I will try some Skylon Brixxon or Paragon arrows. Easton is definitely not dominate like it used to be.

@derekcater2448

Жыл бұрын

In the UK, most clubs shoot across shared-use grounds so require A/C arrows, because they are easier to find with a metal detector. I think Easton dropped the ball in phasing out ACC and ACG arrows. They were the gateway arrows to ACEs and X10s. Now, I suspect Merlin's Alimax's (which are made by Pandarus, I understand) and are an ACC replacement will channel UK archers into Pandarus CA320s, which match the GPI and tolerances of X10s but for half the price. Half the GB recurve team now shoots Fivics Five-X shafts. I suspect Easton's near monopoly of arrows in the UK is over.

Here in the UK, we aren't usually allowed to shoot pure carbon outdoors, and Pandarus aren't generally very available.

good to know, thanks.

I am a 3D archer in Germany. Max distance for trad division competitions is 30-35 m here, depending on the organization. Often animals are placed between trees, without a backstop and so on. I don't know anyone shooting expensive Easton arrows and you rarely see them. For the given distances, with a high risk of arrow loss, it makes no sense shooting expensive arrows. In the German National Championships i saw a guy with a 1,7k EUR bow and skylon arrows. These Skylon are hard to beat. I measure all the spec of arrows i build and keep track of the data in Excel sheet. Last dozen Skylon Edge i build for a friend were equal within 5 lbs of spine tolerance, 3 grain in weight and had better straightness than advertised. I saw much worse in arrows for four times the price!

I reckon this video is for Easton's marketing team

Victory, Victory, Victory!

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

I think Victory had/has a very simple model, not bad to stock good price point.

I live in the United States and I like black eagle we do have some easton here a lot more of the other brands you talked about

@thereaper4396

Жыл бұрын

Because the other brands are what’s “cool”. Just a fad. Plus, those other brands are giving sponsorships out the wazoo.

In America, most archers compound and traditional I see are shooting easton. Many trad shooters like their goldtips though, those are a popular choice I see. I think we have more options than ever before, but Easton's reputation and olympic usage by podium archers gives them an incredible advantage. I dabbled in goldtip and liked eastons for many years as a traditional archer. Now I'm black eagle user. I think the situation may be different in Australia than here but I couldn't say. I think most of the companies sell incredible arrows but it also might be cheaper to get Easton here in the US than in Australia (exchange rates maybe). Wasn't sure what arrows you picked up for the 600 australian dollars though

Easton is a great company in the USA we have tons of arrows

The Easton 6.5 is a pretty good selling shaft here in the states. You can buy them in bare or pre fletched will bully vanes. Among my circle of fellow hunters we want a good shaft without all the fake silly graphics, flames, etc. Now Easton does participate in silly graphics as well, but Easton is seen as an arrow builder’s arrow that are tools, not a pretty statement. Easton’s takeover of Beman filled a niche for hunters that do not want to spend $200+ on a American made shaft.

@jebstuart1323

Жыл бұрын

I have used the 6.5's on brown bear, elk,moose, muley's. At a minimum use the orange inserts and not the included. I machine my inserts at work out of scrap titanium we have.

@kcMan7938

6 ай бұрын

Yep , Easton 6.5 bow hunter assembled

You've got your "exit to the video" down. You kinda even sounded like a reporter for a second there... As always. Great video, reallt enjoy watching your stuff. Thanks

Nice T-shirt brother 💪🏹

As I know there is a similar arrow as the Easton X10 produced by pandarus. Could you make a comparison of these two top of the line arrows?

Love my aluminum Easton xx75 2219 crossbow bolts!

In the UK we still see a lot of Easton, particularly aluminium arrows for beginners. As people move on we buy other brands as well as Easton.

@maxschell8823

Жыл бұрын

100%. Here in America there has been a shift away from the entry level aluminum shaft to the low cost, i.e. entry level carbon shaft. For example, in our youth programs we can buy one dozen entry level carbon arrows, fletched with points and nocks for $35.00 US.

@vaazig

Жыл бұрын

@@maxschell8823 I believe this is because aluminium is safe. Beginners can in theory mistreat their arrows, pulling them out the wrong way etc. This could be dangerous, so clubs play it safe. In our club beginners get a loan kit for three months, and the arrows are always aluminium. Also, many clubs shoot on shared fields, meaning that a stray arrow needs to be found, or it could endanger rugby players. Do you have shared fields over there?

@vaazig

Жыл бұрын

@@maxschell8823 Also, how in earth are they so cheap? 😅 We don't have anything that cheap.

We couldn't afford the Easton Game Getters when they came out so we continued to use cedar shafts until the carbons began to take over. The low end arrows today that come from China are ridiculously cheap yet still light years ahead of those Game Getters.

Weird. I'm in Ontario Canada and the top 3 brands of arrows ( ime) is Easton, Carbon Express and Gold Tip. Casual archers ( not hunters ) I know just buy whatever is cheapest off of wish or Ali express. Cheers!

Black eagle are my favorite brand they have a huge selection

I think this is dealer specific in your particular area. That said, he has a point: there is more competition now, so for Easton the only direction is down in terms of overall market foothold. Eventually 1 of 2 things will occur: either Easton reinvents itself and maintains a place in the market based on value, quality and niche appeal, or they go out of business like Kodak did years ago.

What are the current competitors to the ACE/x10/pro comps from other brands?

I live in America I've been to 8 different shops within a few hours of me everyone of them have loads of Easton shafts ect. Not one of them carry victory which is what I like the best so unfortunately I'm stuck shooting axis it's just easier to buy in person when I need something vs having to order off-line and wait to get my arrows. Victory rip tko definitely my favorite

Mmmmm, sounds like what happen to The Big Three (GM, Ford and Chrysler) when the Japanese started importing to America. From my understand they thought it would be ok. Before the haters hit me, I went thru one Ford, a Chrysler and three GM vehicles over a period of twenty years. Lets throw in a Porsche and a 2003 VW GTI which turn out to be the worst car of them all. Now my entire family drives nothing but Honda and one Acura RDX in the mix. I guess that is what happens when you do not listen to your customers and or pay attention to your competition. Sounds like Easton is following the Big Three. Nice presentation, you laid out all of your concerns without screaming, cursing and describing the lineage of the people who run Easton. Thanks again for your time. Hello from "The People's Democratic Republic of Crook Count, Illinois.

Steven: Do you have stores here in the states? Would be happy to support your business in future purchases!

In South Africa Easton is still top. But then again we are a tiny market for archery... and the only other brand I have encountered is CE...

I have X-10s (bought used) and Carbon Express Nano Pro Xtreme (also bought used), which I like. However, the CE Nanos have been discontinued. I understand the distributor has an annoying habit of buying out brands and cutting their best lines. "Where good products go to die" according to a dealer I know.

@ScottPankhurst

Жыл бұрын

the new owner is focused on their core market, which is hunting. unfortunate for target archers, but we're a drop in the bucket of the overall market.

Easton is still pretty big in the US. But I shoot Goldtips.

i would love to walk into a shop like the one you have. i lived in Texas and there was no shop that was local. you dive for hours phll in they have one or two bow brands and maybe 2 arrow brands. and the name brand accessories for them. there were no trad offerings at all. now i am in alaska. they have 2 trad offerings 3 or 4 arrow offerings and 4 or 5 bow brands. you work with what they have or you go online

In the mid eighties a German man opened a carbon arrow business and manufactured them in North Carolina,,my business was seventy yards from this business,, I started using his arrows and never bought another aluminum arrow

easton are massive in the uk they also own hoyt

Talk about overpackaging. We need to stop that sort of waste.

With all due respect, i have Yet to see any high level pro using any other arrow than Easton X10(X10 protour for compound shooters).

I'm a tech at Bass Pro in San Antonio and we just got Eason Axis and FMJ's in after not carrying Easton for years. Not a huge selection, but the core spines, complete arrows (minus tips of course). But, we are still primarily Gold Tip, Carbon Express and Victory. In store we're still unsure what's going to happen because right now we have more arrow SKUs than we have spare for. But corporate hasn't let us know which ones are going away. The local perception is that Easton is a good product and has some very good options, but is also a premium price. Other than the FMJ it's very rare that we can't find something equivalent in quality and purpose. Several dealers in the area are also very big with Black Eagle so they're very popular locally as well. Personally, I love to see the growing options and expect that we'll see a consolidation at some point as brands fail or get bought out, but it leads to better prices, better options and improvements to the products as brands try to differentiate themselves. I just looked up Pandarus, to see what was available here in the US. Basically nothing. It's all AU, UK... We can get their junk stuff on Amazon, but I didn't see their more serious products. Maybe soon.

Easton I believe has the best arrow. They can be more expensive but you get an arrow at least as good as they advertise. Most other you hope to be close to what they claim.

I think eastons quality has gone down, I've bout 2 dozen arrows recently and out of them 3, 3 if the arrows were in spec. These where axis 5mm match grades 340 spine, currently trying out sirius archery, and waiting for my 300 RIP tko's, they'll be here in a few couple days. I build my own arrows so I order shafts only uncut. So far I'm liking the sirius archery arrows, so we'll see which one I'll be using this coming season. I will fletch them in a couple different ways and a few different weights. And see what flys best for me. But after my last order of axis's I refuse to order them again. These were all purchased this year, a dozen in January and another in March from 2 different places. I would say maybe a bad batch but getting 2 bad batches back to back I don't see that happening, it posable I guess but I won't be finding out any time soon. Also thinking of trying some gold tip Airstrikes.

That’s not the case in the US. Talking hunting arrows in my shop, Easton in my #1 arrow followed by Black Eagle. They offer just as many arrows as victory and most at a lower price point. 4 min, 5mm, 6mm and 6.5mm. They come in shafts, fletched vane and fletched feathers.

Hmm...I have several different arrows, I shoot Gold Tip Hunter XT's with my compound bow, and my hunting recurve uses Easton Legacy Fred Eichler's, and my little 25lb limb takedown bow uses Victory VAP Jr's...just have to play around with various shafts and component's to see what works for your bow

You look to be a bit younger than me? But I also tarted out when it was diff to get the shaft specs one wanted. There were either "telegraph poles" from Easton available in Oz or the "knitting needles" as were the words bandied about the club. Of course these were all imported from the USA and back in the early eighties it was very expensive to import such things or anything from the USA. Asian manufacture killed them like everything.

For me the most important factor is price

@ScottPankhurst

Жыл бұрын

for me the most important factors are quality and performance. once those are achieved, I start thinking about price.

@sahhull

Жыл бұрын

@@ScottPankhurst Price first... Then I look for the best achievable within the price. Bear in mind the 100% carbon arrow bans most clubs have in the UK.

The Easton aluminum outside of a few cheaper Chinese brands of okay to good quality (Musen with both carbon fiber and aluminum spine, Elong, and Cupid only in 450 spine) are the only ones making aluminum arrows still that due to price for what you get mainly in field archery, 3D, and hunting (all places with the unknown in the ground) the arrows are better for the money as you get 12 of the Aluminum for the price of 6 carbon fiber arrows that are mid level price/quality. Easton now makes the only aluminum arrows that are not made in China at the moment and that is what they have going for the brand right now at least in North America and parts of Europe. Easton almost stopped making arrows during the 2010's in Aluminum but then this one school program in USA NASP where they use the Genesis Original Compound for all of them mainly stock though they can swap out the arrow rest (due to how crappy the model of brush style it comes with) that popped up in the late 2000's and more so 2010's where they had to use the Genesis Easton 1820 arrows for competition so Easton had to keep making those specific arrows or the Genesis brand would have switched to the cheaper Elong 1816 arrow from China that was also a target only arrow in a very similar style only feathers not fletching just to keep the setup the same. This move of Gensis in the NAA probably saved Easton from stopping making aluminum arrows as the Easton people decided to keep making other arrows as: Why only make for just one bow? as this would not be very cost effective, so Genesis probably saved Easton from dumping the aluminum archery division. There were others making Aluminum arrows in the past before carbon fiber like Victory with only 20__ on up, Onida had some that were only big diameter shafts __20+, Pine Ridge even had a gold color only of aluminum arrows that used what is now the carbon fiber spine chart into the early 1990's when they stopped due to factory going broke that made arrows and a few archery acsecories. Bear Archery even had some aluminum arrows in the 1950's as some of the first after Easton but stopped them after Easton started making arrows in bulk for the masses due to price for both the consumer as well as maker and that Bear could not make them in the quantities that Easton did. Then you had some brands with real fiberglass arrows like Ben Person being one of the biggest with an interesting spine chart that a few odd brands of carbon fiber still use that I could never understand myself.

Another thing is that a lot of the elite archers who would want Easton's high end expensive X10's are probably already sponsored by Easton and getting their arrows for free, or heavily discounted, so Easton isn't really making any sales there either.

@enrique6335

Жыл бұрын

They're not. A beginner or intermediate archer will see the world ranked archers using X10s and Protours rush to buy a dozen only to be deflated once they see the price for the shafts alone. The pretentious Instagram archers will drop the cash because they might be looking for a sponsorship down the line but most of them aren't as good as they want to believe and will probably don't see much benefit from buying high end arrows. I have a buddy who has been on state and national teams and he doesn't use any of the high end Easton arrows yet still continuously gets great scores.

It is sad that USA products are not being given a chance in Australia or NZ due to where you live. PSE has kind of left in recent years despite being one of the biggest sellers of compound bows in the Australia market at one point, Bear Archery is hard to get in, Can't get Easton or Fleetwood arrows, Chinese is what you end up with in your area where 90% of the Chinese brands refuse to cater to Left hand people or those with other odd needs like shorter or longer draw then the average becuse in China they have so many people that they can have 1 million in a sport using the average just fine for said sport and they have to be doing another sport then that they can use a bigger or smaller body for.

Disappointed Easton discontinued the Hexx/Da’Torch/HexxFOC lines…the 330s are great shafts

I love my ACE but I have a set of Skylon Precium and I find I am getting the same scores from both. Skylon are cheaper and have a wider range of splines and components.

Easton X10's will probably be "King of the Hill" for only a few more generations in the target archery circle. There are just too many other excellent arrow manufacturers for Easton to compete with. I live in salt lake city, utah where many of the Easton and Hoyt products are produced and I know several of their past employees. Buy Easton Arrows because many lives depend this company to earn a meager wage.

40 years ago paid less than a dollar now I see Easton arrows for over $20😢😢😢

Damn, I hunt with Easton Procomps here in the states and when I bought them three years ago a dozen only cost me $279.00 USD a dozen. Easton Procomps are really $600 AUD a dozen down under?

Wished i had a cool arrow shop like this in my area, i think my whole country has maybe 2 websites and no physical stores to buy from.

Yep, you have an attitude! A positive attitude towards growing the sport of archery.😂😂😂

apart from the rx7 easton doesn't have anything that interests me. Wich reminds me i'll need to put in an order soon since it can take a while to get the matching components. For favorite arrow it's a toss up between skylon & pandarus, both got great value for money and i can live with 4 weeks wait time for pandarus. I only wish carbon tech was better represented in europe, really want to try mckinney II's for fita's.

I've been buying easton bloodline 480 and 400 since 2012

@BucksBeesS.C.

Жыл бұрын

Still able to buy but its getting harder. Only shoot 27 draw with 53 lb. Small arrow is my hunting arrow

@BucksBeesS.C.

Жыл бұрын

But I only shoot a bear 2012 legion 60 lb. More money in site and stabilizer than the biw but love bear

I think Easton is a US thing.. they seem to all use them there . I'm from Europe myself and I've never bought any eastons, there available in my local shop but I wouldn't buy them simply because there a ripoff... And there incompatibility with other tips and inserts really triggers me ..

Easton is not easy to work.I don't know which accessories fit which arrows. It has become difficult.

UK, yep my local stores have tons more choice over easton arrows, I've had easton with my original compound bow... over the years I've bought afew different model types of such however.. recently "yes cost is a big part of it" I've opted currently for outdoors (garden shooting) skylon savage & fastwing getting good results. I'll buy better arrows when a suitable club becomes available in my area (as my local clubs x2 have recently closed down) so I've a 18-21m garden range of my own. early last year when I was getting back into archery "maybe the year prior??" I did buy afew x12packs of amazons sharrow arrows, of which did give very good results (same price as the skylon arrows) the only downside was they were heavy arrows in comparison. Still very nicely made, no issues at all except delivery times ie 5-6wks. easton other then the very picky arrow types, rather then the straight forwards type/spine options required I'm very happy to shop from there competitors every day of teh week

For some reason when you even think about mentioning made in China in any of the American Facebook Archery groups you will get absolutely hammered.

@ScottPankhurst

Жыл бұрын

that's because Americans retain an attitude of supporting their own manufacturing capability. it's something that Australia could learn from.

@EBair

Жыл бұрын

You wanna support china over America? You a god damn commie? Or just a weekend commie?

@crisnmaryfam7344

Жыл бұрын

@@ScottPankhurst Yet turn around and whine bitch and moan about the prices of domestic sourced stuff, and then buy the Chinese stuff anyway. "Murica!" Make sure you rock your MADE IN CHINA "Maga" hat while you are at it. Awesome "attitude of supporting their own manufacturing". Im all for patriotism and supporting local grown and made, but they have to maintain that level of product, be it quality or price. Blind Patriotism is a vile thing.

@Australian_Made

Жыл бұрын

· wow! 😱

@theweekendarcher2056

Жыл бұрын

@@ScottPankhurst I agree to a point. But just saying the Chinese gear has come a long way. The quality has improved. I’m looking forward to the shoot through riser from Topoint.

Aluminum carbon composite arrows bend without you knowing it.

Oh please stop. It’s called competition and globalisation of manufacturing. To call this video “the demise of Easton archery” is misleading. Have a look at what the all the recurve shooters at the World Cup and Olympic events shoot. You have your place in the market, please just focus on that, focus on your customer service and move on.

@jw-vx8im

8 ай бұрын

Grow up dhead

Accmos Arrows! When you absolutely, positively have to pay your rent, EVERY month!

If just about all the archery shops in Australia are/were Easton distributors how come (at a guess) 10-12 years ago there was a recall on a batch or axis n fused shafts and if you had some of them arrows you had to go through the one Easton distributor shop that was here, I ask because I was unlucky to have had some and had a rather unpleasant experience dealing with another shop (not you haha) who was importing the arrows through the back door kind of thing

Huh? Easton is producing everything from budget shafts fully built to premium bare shafts and components..

If you can’t get in as a distributor because Easton has so many other distributors, they can’t be doing THAT bad.

I'm really looking forward to send my Victory VAP TKO's into some meaty targets

Easton seems to me like the same case as John Deere and other high end products, they outworked themselves and out priced themselves to where they pushed themselves out of the market.

As an American I buy Easton because it’s made in America.

Maybe in Australia but not the usa

This must be in your country bc Easton is still the #1 brand in America. I'd say Gold Tip is probably 2nd.

I always thought Easton was a general sporting goods producer because they had baseball bats or they still do I believe gloves, helmets, hockey sticks all types of things. I always thought they were the same company, but maybe not. I would kill for a traditional archery shop anywhere near mestores are so few and far between I have no choice, but that order everything off the Internet and as beginner that can be a nightmare

i think easton tries to be the high end of arrows, but that's become less of a thing when bows shoot as well as they do, shooting a high quality arrow definitely raised your scores not too long ago but now you can throw basically any carbon tube down range and it will be accurate within an half inch which is more then ok with most shooters, i think for my self anyways the more pronounced companies just makes me feel better about shooting it. if you have a nice bow your not going to shoot garbage because of safety for yourself and not wanting to risk a dry fire if its cracked.

Yeah, but a lot of people like the X10 and X10 Protour. I welcome competition and I will choose the best arrow for my dollar regardless of brand. However, they are still here and a force to be reckoned with. I would make the argument that Easton did the hard work of the engineering and research and development. I don't know Pandarus, but suspect that if they are similar to Easton it is because they have followed Easton's winning formulae, but without paying any royalties for copying their technology. If this is in fact the case, killing off Easton would be killing off innovation. Pandarus does not appear to be investing in R and D. To me they appear to be copy and cash in. I want to save money as much as the next guy, but I don't have to buy from the lowest bidder just because their country gave them a pass on patent laws. FYI I am not sponsored by Easton. To be fair, yes of course there are other companies offering great products, however for anything comparable to the best arrows as the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. I would also think it is strange that Easton would not sell you $200,000 worth of stock. That I find strange, but I wonder if I have all the information to understand this decision. I agree that Easton needs to evolve to fit the times, but I don't think it is a fair argument to compare their products with those from a company that I am concerned has violated patent laws, but is able to get away with it because their government allows it.

@wanr5701

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Easton also sponsors tournaments as well as supporting archers through their foundation. So I prefer supporting companies that gives back to the sport.

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

There has always been arrows like the Pandarus X10. Cartel had similar arrows years ago. 40 years ago people would try and build arrows but they would always be shut down. Yes top shooters will buy or be given X10's, but then shooters try the Black Eagle and report they shoot better scores. Saying that most archers buy affordable arrows.

I think this is not so applicable to American archery shops. Easton is definitely Top 3 in any archery shop in any state. Their carbon manufacturing process is the best. Since I switched to their 6.5 Bowhunters I have never had a bad arrow in a dozen.

So many USA branded carbon arrows out there now, but made by one of the few carbon manufacturers in China, & a few perhaps elsewhere. Merlin in the UK have just launched a new a/c target arrow (Alimax) , but unlike their other products, guessing manufactured in China. Easton's aluminium/carbon shafts (X10 etc) are made in the USA, but how about their all carbon shafts (Avance etc) ? We hear opinions of Easton X10/Protour being the ultimate target arrow & the reason buyers remain who are willing & prepared to pay their big price tag, but in fact, is it really only a case of the belief "it's more expensive so it must be better" ? There are now also a few USA image branded, made in China, all carbon offerings that are almost up there in price. The power of image perception marketing applies.