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Not gonna lie, I’ve been binge watching the hunting videos getting pumped up for hunting season.
@sawyerfude6738
Жыл бұрын
Same
@peavinehall4749
Жыл бұрын
Yep I know the feeling
@whitetailhabitatandhunting
Жыл бұрын
Same
@marcus8818
Жыл бұрын
Yo me to bro
@claybond7430
Жыл бұрын
So excited!!
The best arrows to hunt with are the ones you're currently using. I started with the Bass Pro store brand X3 Hunter 340 refletched 4" plastic, 100gr field tips. The arrows are made by Gold Tip. After several months of practice I used the same arrows for hunting. I swapped the field tips for the 100gr G5 Montec broadhead. I went to that first hunt with every confidence I had in those arrows when I went to the range to practice. So no, I don't use different arrows for hunting or practice. The arrows tend to behave differently going from field tip to broadheads but that's expected. I don't sweat different brands of arrows or tips. I chose one and stayed with it until I got it down. I learned from rifle hunting that if you stress over one brand of ammo and bullet style over another you'll second guess every decision you've made or will make. I thought I needed the Hornady SST ballistic tip ammo at $45/box precovid now I shoot consistent groups with the $19/box precovid American Whitetail SP flat base out to 300 yards. There's a reason why Remington SP flat based Core-Lokt ammo has been around for over 80 years. It's basically tried and true and lethal out to 400 yards. I am no longer seduced by marketing or hype. I learned not to buy expensive ammo and I've never bought expensive arrows or broadheads. It's not the bow, arrow or broadheads it's the man drawing the bow string confident in his ability and equipment no matter how much he spent.
Best part of this video is that you aren't just buying the most expensive arrows out there. You are honest and reasonable. Almost like you are a normal person. Appreciate it man. 😂
@capricornmagic63
Жыл бұрын
Not sure I should be the one to tell you this but he is a normal person, you know; one brain, two arms, two legs, eyes, ears, one nose mouth, etc. by all metrics or measurements that makes him a normal person.
@benaustin272
Жыл бұрын
I heard he has 3 legs
@drakecalvo9008
Жыл бұрын
@@benaustin272 His third leg helps him with his accuracy.
@Carranzac98
10 ай бұрын
It’s his stabilization method that goes unspoken in their inner circle
@PoorManGarage
26 күн бұрын
How much weight on the 3rd leg for stabilization?
Chris…thanks for a common, no nonsense arrow build video. Like you said “it’s personal choice”, but I am so tired of everyone saying heavy is the only way. As you say shoot what you know works for you and your equipment. Thanks again. Keep up the good work.
@devinwillis7787
Жыл бұрын
If you shoot short known distance shots heavy is totally the way. If you are out west or have farm land and are reaching out there 40+ then absolutely no need to go as heavy as what ranch fairy is for hogs
Love the TKO series! I shot the VAP SS for a while, but decided to get back to a standard diameter and am using the VF TKO. Fantastic shafts! 300 spine, 445 grains total with the stock 22 grain insert and 125 grain heads.
Awesome opinion on arrow builds, I am in the middle of building my final hunting arrows now and this content gives me a few things to consider. I tend to build a much too heavy front forward arrow for the white tail I chase here in New York.
The best segment of this video ...was the truth and pure honest advise ..... shoot n practice :) good on you Chris :)
I needed this today! Been working on my setup for this season too and have been overcomplicating it. Thanks Chris!
@JedlyMT
Жыл бұрын
The more complicated, the more time you have into it and you learn more. And it forces you to practice more. That's my take on it. If you don't want to, or have the time to spend on building arrows, keep it simple. Nothing wrong with that! Cheers!
Thanks Chris for another great video. I enjoy all your videos because everything you do in your videos helps this old man hunt better even if I don’t hunt with a compound. I hunt with a recurve and may not need all the info, but a lot can still be used for my type of hunting.
This is a great video man! Very informative for guys just starting to build their own arrows. Having the same issue with my FMJs, such a hassle to fine tune everything just right. Good stuff man, keep em' coming!
Thanks for getting me grounded again with a basic arrow set up. I have been watching to much social media stuff and second guessing everything that has worked so well for me over the years.
When it comes to the tip and tail, I've started using UV resin that I use for fly tying and it works great
Someone as successful as you have been and the experience you have accumulated sure gives weight to your setup shortcuts and thoughts on reliability and over thinking the technical aspects of archery...and it was just great. I have experimented the arrow builds also with 200 to 340 spines and weights 440 to 725g. I do like how dead the bow feels on the heavier arrows but doubt I will put any more time into that pursuit. Love the adventure, keep it up, I bet your dad is very proud of your channel.
Straight talk arrows with Chris Bee. I appreciate your honesty here. Build an arrow, don’t over think it, send it and be confident. Totally agree.
Thanks for doing this video. It helped me confirm that my arrow setup is right where it should be for whitetail hunting here in South Carolina
I switched to the Victory VAP Elite arrow last year. I used the Black Fusion glue and it worked like a champ! I usually use some sort of gun cleaning brass bristled bore cleaner brush to rough up the inside of the arrow shaft then some sort of scratch pad to rough up the outside of the arrow then clean it with isopropyl alcohol then use the black fusion glue (shake well) and I havent have any outserts pull out. Ive used the gorilla super glue on my blazers for several years and it works really well! ...I tried out the TAC vanes last season and used the prime pen and glue and those also adhear really well ......I really enjoy your videos so keep them coming. Ive hunted Kansas for years and really enjoyed your walk in Kansas hunt where you took a GIANT! . Good luck this season!
Mark those arrow ends with a silver sharpie before squaring them. You'd be surprised how much it takes to get all the silver sharpie off. Also don't forget the nock end. They're never square from the factory
Love it. I’ve been waiting for this video. Excited to get into building my own arrows
Thanks Chris! Yea, I'm totally with you as for board. Can't Fletcher fast enough! I use cue tips to clean with. Also, I'm trying the new TAC vanes! Beautiful vanes but a S.O.B. to get to stick and yes I bought the pen and super glue! They say don't use any other glue except there's but I went to bohning super glue and it worked. I'm just telling you so if you ever try it .... Good luck!!!!
Outstanding, I've been fletching my own arrows for both hunting and competition for years! I've done that individual tune single bevel stuff years ago. This video was HONEST no HYPE, SPOT ON! Great Job!
Amen to the blazer vane adhesion,tried the TAC vanes on my last set up and they are definitely a much more difficult product to use
Perfect timing for this video, Ive been looking into switching arrows. What are the odds you ship me a few of the arrows you didn't go with? Lol, dope video chris!
Such a helpful video. What is the difference between a left wing, right wing, and straight fletching jig?
Very cool to see you picking out Victory as your go to. That is the newer G5 squaring tool, there was indeed an older version.
Victory are amazing arrows. My number one arrow and my go to arrow. Second favorite is black eagles renegade 5mm. Great stuff!
Kinetic pierce platinum fan here. Used them after pro hunter xt and I like them a lot. Hard to switch when something works well.
Great video as usual, would love it if you did a video on broadhead tuning? I can't seem to get my broadheads to fly consistently. Especially fixed blade.
I shot the 5mm Easton ACC Hunting shafts for years. About 3 years ago I started shooting the Victory VAP TKO's with the heavy 95 grain steel outserts/inserts. I found the shafts where tougher than the components. The next year I switched to the Valkyrie components. @ that time the outsert was just 50 grains but I had all my points & broadheads with the 210 grain Viking Centerpin system & that Victory component problems went away. This year I tweaked it a little with the 22 grain Valkyrie outsert on a few shafts I made from scratch. The arrow setup was about 35 grains lighter with the 4 fletch pattern low profile vane which steers the setup fine. Not a problem with the tuning. I have taken the V6 TKO's made from shafts & used the squaring tool which has given the arrow a higher tolerance. The advantages with this arrow setup is primarily going to shine with a whitetail 🌳 Hunting scenario. But I think it's better if u have a 30" to 31" draw length. The speed u lose will more than make up for it with the accuracy u get. If u need a stiffer spine w/o the weight of a TKO u can always try making up a set of the Blackeagle X-Impact's that u can get in a 250 spine. As of a year ago u weren't able to get a TKO stiffer than a 300 spine. The jury is still out whether it can match the durability of the VAP TKO's which is going to be hard to beat but the X-Impact's have the same tight tolerance on all the shafts they offer so that's a bonus 👍.
Hi Chris. Great video. On your target arrows do you cut both ends of the arrows or do you just build and shoot? Thanks 😊
I'm shooting the 300sp 5mm fmjs out of my V3 and they are pretty damn accurate I'm not using a fixed blade or single bevel and I just went with the basic insert they come with but they seem to be doing pretty good and honestly don't seem that slow at 70lbs
That was the realist video iv seen you do In a long time. Keep it up !
Excellent video. I just started archery and can't wait to start building my own arrows.
I was just thinking about this! Thanks!
I was running the VAP TKO years ago. Glad to see they've caught on!!!
I just bought a dozen RIP TKO's for an upcoming elk hunt pairing them with a 100g Muzzy 3 Blade fixed. I can't wait it should be fun! Thanks for sharing! 👍
I love how you're so honest! I figured you were sponsored Easton so that would be your pick! Good job Chris!
Can’t wait to see the Moose hunt dude! I personally shoot the Victory VAP TKO Elite’s for hunting out west, and really enjoy the performance, very durable as well. Awesome video once again.🤙🏽🤙🏽🐝
Please keep us updated on the potential accuracy difference between the V6 (Sport) and V1 (Elite) arrows. Seems most people would not be able to tell a difference, but I am curious if the additional cost of the Elite is justifiable.
@joshuawooledge6945
Жыл бұрын
If your arrow length is 29" or less buy the v6 or v3 option and cut from both ends. You usually end up with a v1 when said and done.
Those outserts look so much easier than the hit inserts. Been shooting fmjs for a long time but want to try the vaps
Hey Chris. Do you think the direction you tie the D loop effects the natural rotation left or right as much as the twist of the string? Thanks for all the good videos.
I agree. I tried Easton, AAE , Vanetec and some noname brands. Only fletchings that really stuck are Bohning vanes. Rest will fall off after a couple of dozen shots.
Love the vids mate, down in Aussie, everything seems to be viewed in a different way.. Interested in your poundage and draw length that you are shooting to be able to run 350sp?
I’m using the Same exact setup for white tail this year mines just a little heavier. Also trying the mega meat
I like the little ez fletch I think aae makes it, thinking about trying the tac vanes I've heard they are super stiff ..cool video
Great vid Chris! Love the camera man pointing at the scale. LOL
Durability on the Victory arrows are phenomenal! Good choice!
That VAP tko is basically the exact arrow I’ve been shooting too. They’re tough and consistent.
So you're sponsored by victory now too? lol A nice little trick for the lighted knocks is you take some heavy gauge wire that fits inside the regular knocks. cut little piece of wire and weigh the knock with it and keep cutting it till you get the same weight as the lighted knock. Then a little dab of super glue to hold the piece of wire in the knock and you have consistent weight in practice arrows and hunting arrows... Great video!
I was at the Ultraview event in Austin Tx and saw Chris shoot a steel target with this arrow and it was completely fine after a few simple repairs! Definitely a good arrow
Its nice to know that even though right now i am shooting a slow bow, Im not the only one in that weight range....this season i was shooting 440gr arrows and I will be repeating that weight next season with more FOC hopefully.
For a 70lb compound my go-to standard arrow for hunting is a 350sp arrow with 150gn up front (total) all up weighing 435gn - almost identical to what you're running (just a different shaft). Trust me, it'll work.
The rut can’t come soon enough! Can’t wait for your fall videos
Just found you! Love your videos. You have a gift to teach. Loved your moose hunt!!!🇺🇸
I started shooting them this year too and love them
Hi Chris. How durable do you find the standard inserts on the rip tko?
Victory are a tough arrow. The carbon weave does help the durability of the arrow. I did notice that the Easton are straighter than the victory but I like both arrows. My 4mm Easton's have been very durable as well.
Would the western 4mm set up still work with the shorter fletchings or does the longer fletching help over longer distances? I would of thought longer distance my mean more wind to encounter and smaller fletchings may help that.
I like using the bohning F nock for the VAP TKO. I think you'd like it also. Give it a try.
I totally agree with your arrow builds but hunting style makes me tend to go with a heavier more weight forward setup with fixed blades for bow driving and ground hunting .awkward quartering angles and more frontal shots heavy helps
I’ve found the Bohning tower jig to be really easy to fletch with. You can glue and fletch all three vanes at the same time. I’ve had nothing but great results with mine.
@FunDownSouth
Жыл бұрын
My first time using, I found myself using too much glue with it, but I think that’s just part of the learning curve. Since the jaws move away, instead of opening like a single fletch, it is harder to move the jaws away to wipe away excess before it is cured enough for the fletching to not move. Can definitely do your arrows faster than a single fletch.
Totally agree on the weight Chris! Also not a fan of hunting with lighted nocks for hunting! They have more possibility for failure and throw off FOC!
Nice one! Great set up and overall presentation. What lenght is your arrows? Cut? 29 inch?
my v3x 29 at 28.5 inches and 77 pounds slings 550 grains 276 fps they fly like darts if I do my part. easiest arrow ive ever tuned or rather got to fly good with a tuned bow. love the content thx...cant wait for the new release as well
So do you have any specific advice for beards while shooting I’ve noticed my beard will affect the Arrows slightly lol my anchor point kinda screws me sometimes if you have any tips please reply lmao
Have you tried annihilator broadheads? That's what I use and absolutely love shooting them.
Chris, have you noticed any difference in consistency when taking arrow building to the extreme? For example: squaring both ends of the arrows and weighing all components to build arrows that all weigh within a half a grain or so of one another? I have always been curious if higher-caliber archers and professionals could tell a difference. Like you said, for average archers such as myself the shooter is the biggest variable by far.
I shoot the Victory VAP TKO Elites. Awesome arrows, and like you said in the video, durable as all hell. $20 an arrow does sting though.
Do you notice any difference in right or left helical? I know they say a lot of bows throw the arrow at a left helical. But I’ve also heard people say that left helical will lossen your broadheads. I shoot left helical with my field points.
Which lighted nocks do you recommend for small diameter arrows ? Thanks
Thank you for the simple but tactful instruction. My question is that I can only set up one set of arrows and only hunt whitetail for now, but I also want to go to TAC and do other long distance events. Which would be best for myself in one arrow does it all, 5 or 4mm? Thanks again!
@HunterDPT
Жыл бұрын
No reason to not shoot the 4mm in my opinion. I switched to the VAP TKOs last year - shot two deer with them last year and have shot 2 deer and a coyote with them this year. All pass throughs, all critters died within 60 yards, and every arrow has survived the experience.
I still shoot Easton bloodline 400 and 480 with my Bear legion 60lb. .100 grain practice tips. After seeing you videos I got the fever. Amazing how out of shape I have became. Practice practice practice. Thanks
I think a comparison between the v6 Vap TKOs and v1 would be a great video
Yupp. Im shooting the VAP SS elite .001 and using 60 grain total Ethics archery insert and collar
Ranch fairy and ashby guys heads are about to explode.
I’d like you try the Valkyrie arrow system I’d just be curious on your thoughts of those
I got a bunch of victory vap tkos 300 spines cause i have a 30.5” draw and im pulling 73 lbs on a ventum 33 i got the greens i think they are v3 but the color is like eastons pro comp, match grade, and base model arrow but with the vap is target, hunting, and all around
Idk how I’ve just found your videos this past week but huge fan
Right on,, I’ve been shooting Rip TKO’s for a while now and I can honestly say you’ll never be let down,, but don’t always trust the spine alignment 🤙
I like the Easton 6.5mm line up my personal favorites are the bowhunter and the match grades.
@Ricatonniisasavage8854
Жыл бұрын
Easton have become so expensive though if you want a Dozen, especially their Match Grade Line. There’s better out there.. I’d rather have Victory or Black Eagle.
@chrississon2646
Жыл бұрын
I bought 6 to try , I Robin hooded 2 times , ruining 4 arrows , I like them , they shoot good n straight . But I find them to be on the brittle side.
Since you use a Bitzenberger jig, you should use the Cali-Bitz to calibrate the jig to know what degree the jig is set at. It’s a decal that is applied to both sides of the jig. Sold at Lancaster Archery. 👍🙏🏹🦌
I ran the rip tko two years ago and had durability issues I bought a dozen of them an at the end of just a 3D season I had broke 6 of the 12 of them just from shooting foam so I put them to the side can’t bring myself to try them again.
You mentioned you are gonna run the G5 Deadmeat for Whitetails. Which fixed blade broadhead you gonna run for out West?
What outsert did you use for the 4mm?
What do you use to get the vanes off the arrows. I have several tools made specifically for removing vanes and they still somewhat destroy the arrows. As far as super glueing the inserts I stoped doing that. I’m not perfect at getting my vanes lined up with the broadheads so I always seem to have to try and twist the insert and when I super glued them they just ended up drying to fast. I ended up putting a drillbit inside my arrow and shake it almost like a slide hammer in order to knock the insert out. You always seem to have great tips and what I like most about this channel versus other great bow channels is you mainly do your setups for whitetail in the Midwest. The other good channels are geared more towards elk hunting. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and love of archery. I do wish you was posting more videos though. I can never get enough and it seems I’m always learning something new every day. Thank you again.
I’m using the Black Eagle Outlaw and my grain weight is 455 grains out of a 60# bow 30 inch draw length shoot at the most of 30 yards
Chris Bee, my question as I watch you fletchin arrows ... do you line your fixed blades with your 3 fletch?m
You'd love the v1 vap ss been shooting them for 2 years only blow up when you shoot knocks.
Another great product the g5 squaring tool but man them g5 board heads I broke one pulling out of a foam block no way we I take that chance only fixed but another product is the gule iron will sales super sticky
Thanks Chris I'm retired can't afford testing appreciate your testing.
I'm new to archery is it cheaper, in the long run, to make your own arrows once you know what you are doing?
What is the insert you are running the the whitetail setup?
When you switch from the VAP to the RIP, do you need to change sight tapes or do they fly Similar enough?
I fletch my own arrows too. You can do sooo much with them , I'm doing a 4 fletched Hunter Pro with nock colairs (they have saved $$$ and arrows) I have only tried 3 types of fletching glue . And Blaze Bound hands down and by far the best (so far) I also found a 4+ degree heellikel works for me . Even out past 80 yrds (just add 3-5 yrds for drag) I don't hunt and have found micro arrows go far too deep and gave me more problems with arrow damage not to say what happens to your fletches IF THEY STAY ON I'm using a Mathews V 3 25.5 draw at 85% let off and 81 lbs I don't have the killer speed guessing at 295-297 with all my specs (from a pro at the bow shop Wolf's Den) but it PACKS A PUNCH
@alexbetts452
Жыл бұрын
Honest ? If you don’t hunt why shoot 81 lbs?
@timparrish1847
Жыл бұрын
@@alexbetts452 Just for shits and gigles all my other bows are 70 , 50 so I can shoot it all day so I guess I fall into the mucsel head group . I must say the Mathews is wild and a joy to shoot even at 80+ lbs . In Canada we can only use 60 lbs for target comps You can shoot anything in 3-D or Feild
Just looking at the numbers, if I were to set up one of your western hunt arrows, the vap tko, exactly how you have yours setup, with my arrow length and spine needed I would still be sitting at a 520 grain arrow. Why I'm looking at the Easton axis 4mm. Setting them up the similarly, I can potentially get it to a 460-480 grains.
@km6731
Жыл бұрын
there's nothing wrong with 520 grains. You should be able to get out to 60 yards no problem.
Chris, what’s the FOC on your two setup’s?
What lighted knocks you using Chris?
I shot that arrow all of last year and have had no problems with them whatsoever. They fly great and are reasonably priced compared to others. Only problem is the availability of them, sometimes very hard to find.
Thoughts on a 490g arrow gold tip pro with a 60 pound Mathew Travers @ 27.5 inch
I use VAP but having trouble finding a good target to keep them from blowing thru....any suggestions?
Thanks