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@brandonscott5544

7 ай бұрын

GREAT THE MOVIE CYNIC DCEU FAIL.

@rodrigodicandia6932

7 ай бұрын

okay bvs didn't make billion dollar. sucide squad 2016 was bad. wonder woman movie is good but sequel was very disaster. josstice league is REALLY bad movie. bird of prey bad. the sucide squad same hbo max and theatre was flop. black adam was bad i'm done with dceu. fuck you dc fans. thank you for help dceu need money but you didn't help. you want to snyderverse was too late

@brightblue6184

7 ай бұрын

I'd like to learn German because I'm dating an Austian.

@rodrigodicandia6932

7 ай бұрын

Hey the movie cynic blue beetle was lie. dc fans like blue beetle but was toxic dc fans. that dc fans ruin dceu yeah. suck dc fans

@g.d.graham2446

7 ай бұрын

Personally, I enjoyed MoS and the Snyder Cut versions of BvS and Justice League, but pretty much all of the other movies from Birds of Prey onward were mostly just shit

Say anything about wokeness, but this time around, wokeness has nothing to do with DC's downfall. The brand has been torn apart from bad executives, bad movie releases (like BvS and Justice League), keeping scumbags working for them (like Ezra and Amber), and many others. Top this weak reputation for DC brand with Hamada's weird decision to put obscure characters on big screen. The final result is a complete disaster. And now James Gunn is forced to pick up the remaning pieces, dealing with things he had minimum control of.

@BlazingOwnager

7 ай бұрын

Blind greed was their ultimate failing.

@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon

7 ай бұрын

At the end of the day, Hollywood's "wokeness" isn't really that politically motivated, is just a marketing strategy made as cold and calculated as the shared-universe business model by the same producers, or investors really...

@superspies32

4 ай бұрын

MCU begin to fall when they overused woke ideology to their movies. DCEU even failed to do that to increased attentions from audiences

@gab1172

4 ай бұрын

Stop simping

@GDSprodify

3 ай бұрын

DCEU > MCU you sheep popcorn chugging simpletons.

deadass just finished the mcu video

@MilkshakeVA

7 ай бұрын

you're not dead nor the ass

@healthiswealth1452

7 ай бұрын

Dead ass?

@ToeCutter0

7 ай бұрын

Is this more zoomer lingo no one else understands? “English MFer! Do YOU speak it?!”

@omarm2426

7 ай бұрын

Same

@SuperMario2401

7 ай бұрын

Same

Marvel tripped and broke both of their legs at the finish line, where DC faceplanted at the starting line. Neither finished the race.

@kedwyd6535

7 ай бұрын

lmao

@storm_fling1062

2 ай бұрын

The race was finished at endgame mcu decided to ask for a new race then fell flat on their face at the starting line

@user-xb7rr2pm1o

23 күн бұрын

​@@storm_fling1062this one. Was gonna say the same thing. Endgame was the finish line. They just decided to run another 200m and broke their shins by doing so

@atius8571

21 күн бұрын

​@@user-xb7rr2pm1oMcu is a McDonald's of cinema. Like Scorsese said it's not art.

@user-xb7rr2pm1o

21 күн бұрын

@@atius8571 I mean actual art isn't art these days. It's more a perspective. You're right in that it's not art art. But how endgame and infinity war brought people together for something. To me that's the art

I think Warner Bros is better off making standalone DC movies within their own continuity instead of trying to be a dollar store Marvel. There should be movies like The Batman and Joker where they give their directors lots of creative freedom without the worry of connecting it to a bigger universe because that's just way too hard

@mgmboy3778

7 ай бұрын

I think DC needs to take a huge break from making movies and James Gunn need to put his universe on hold superhero movies lately . Has really been falling off the MCU went from the green light to yellow light and DC red light just broke

@mr.punisher5100

7 ай бұрын

@@user-dy2km3yy8x What the hell are you talking about we're at 7 DCEU flops already they haven't made a substantial profit

@TheSaharay1

7 ай бұрын

@@user-dy2km3yy8xYou're right. DC had been making individual movies for years, and those movies did a lot more for the box office and audience retention than anything the DCEU has. So, really they should go back to what was making them successful and not blockbuster jokes

@Critic_Chris90210

7 ай бұрын

@@mgmboy3778 lmao right. Theres reason why DC does better on small screen while Marvel been dominating the big screen over DC. Im sure snyderverse cult people cannot figure out why that is. Lol

@DavidMartinez-ce3lp

7 ай бұрын

The Batman and Joker are safe bets for WB. They're just trying to copy the success of the Dark Knight trilogy by making films that are dark and gritty, grounded, and self contained. There was no risk involved in putting these movies out. I'd rather have a definitive version of the DC cinematic universe that is properly planned out. They need to take the time to actually lay the foundation.

billy batson being more mature than shazam ruins the immersion for that character almost immediately for me

@4deleDaz33m

7 ай бұрын

I don't think that is a mistake. Billy is mature because he's conflicted with the world that he's living, he's a kid who have been in a lot of foster homes with stricked rules that he has to follow. Whereas as Shazam, he's free to do whatever he wants. He released his inner child in Shazam because he has powers that he's capable of doing basically anything. He felt too perfect and doesn't have to worry about anything as Shazam unlike he did when he was just Billy. He can't purchase beers because he's way too young but he can as Shazam which makes him immature enough for sure but make sense since he doesn't have to worry about anything. At least that's how I see it

It really infuriates me that people blame what was Batman V. Superman on Zack Snyder alone. This film had a lot of studio interference, and wasn't even Zack Snyder's plan. There was going to be a Batman solo film, and other things building up to this. But Warner Bros wanted a "Avengers-level" film too soon without setting up the characters. Even Superman's character arc wasn't finished. He was going to become the Superman we all know and love, but the development and growth of him would take time. Zack Snyder was doing a masterpiece. But studio interference ruined it for him.

@miketheninja13

7 ай бұрын

Since Snyder's departure in 2017, things have only gotten worse. It's obvious he was never the problem, but people are blatantly ignoring all the facts because of their blatant bias against him. These are the same people that said "the Snyder Cut doesn't exist," but once AT&T forced WB to release it on HBO MAX to a warm reception the narrative shifted to, "he obviously changed the movie after he saw the reaction to Josstice League," even though Snyder himself confirmed he's never even seen that version of the movie. All one has to do is compare Stepphenwolf's overall character design and story arc in Josstice League to the Snyder Cut, and that pretty much sums up everything he had to deal with at WB.

@johnjohns8863

7 ай бұрын

@@miketheninja13 It all marvel bots bro that was bashing snyder and still are now even tho snyder left in 2016 and they have had 13 films under different directors since and evey single one of them are flopps and they try to blame snyder lmao The marvel bots was scared that Snyder's universe was better than marvel woke shit

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Snyder shills are a embarssment to the society bvs was one of the worst movies of all time where lex luthor trynna pin superman on murder of some village folks who has bullets inside their bodies .improve ur taste kid .

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

​@@miketheninja13snyder was the problem .so was hamada .snyder ruined every character he worked means all th A listers while hamada had no plan to what to go from there

@herloss448

7 ай бұрын

snyder ruined dc reputation nolan build with his crap

I was hugely interested in and invested in Cavill, Affleck as Superman and Batman and the core DCEU characters in ZSJL...yes, some people didn't like them or those films, but that's fine - it's subjective. The entire problem was self-made by Warner Bros from 2016 - the sheer amount of studio meddling ruined so much.

@badman_iiixiii

7 ай бұрын

It's hilarious how Snyder's haters use the term 'Snyderverse' a lot more than his fans, acting as if he was given a free hand in how he managed 'his' movie universe, and how basically one single man somehow ruined an entire movie universe more than the corporate overlords making one bad decision after another.

@Kal_El1994

7 ай бұрын

@@badman_iiixiii Couldn't agree more. Saying Zack destroyed DC or the DCEU or was responsible etc is utterly ridiculous. He wasn't involved since 2017 when the execs reshot about 80% of JL because they are morally corrupt morons. True "Snyderverse" is from 2013 to 2017 MAX. The same characters and actors appeared in other films, but they are usually so far from what they originally were character-wise is immense.

@petriew2018

7 ай бұрын

Most. Most people didn't like them. You are the obnoxiously vocal minority

@Kal_El1994

7 ай бұрын

@@petriew2018 Calling someone "obnoxious" because they like film A or specific character iterations is wild. Who is "most"? People online I'm guessing. I've also seen a number of people online who like them too & spoken to people IRL who liked them too. The films were financially successful - especially compared to the woeful newer DC films' performance.

@petriew2018

7 ай бұрын

@@Kal_El1994 no, i'm calling them obnoxious because of the way they so forcefully flood a comment section with utter bullshit because they can't accept the reality that they like bad movies.. Snyderlings are some of the most toxic and obnoxious idiots i've ever seen infest the internet, because they can't even make a coherent case as to why they like the thing they like, they just thing it's cool because edgy. You're saying things that are untrue because you want to hear them but nobody with a brain will say them outloud.... because they're fantasies. The critical, general, and financial reception for the Snyderverse was a massive disaapointment for WB. They were not successful, that's why he was fired.

It’s funny how the Lego Batman movie was more enjoyable than any recent superhero movie period

@liamphibia

7 ай бұрын

Weird, right?

@4deleDaz33m

7 ай бұрын

Lego Batman did Batman better than Batman in BvS

DCEU: the boy who fails copying homework, poorly MCU: the boy who gets away with doing his own homework, before eventually burning out and not caring anymore

@user-fm3xr9yz3i

7 ай бұрын

Mcu copied snyder this is facts

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-fm3xr9yz3ihack snyder copied joss whedon .snyder cut is literally a cheap copy of avengers story

@stephenblack5425

7 ай бұрын

@@Dikbeeg yup, the Snyder Cut has so many similarities with Avengers 1 and Avengers Age of Ultron.

DC 2023 sucks, but James Gunn had little control over that. Just like a new CEO coming in to revive a dying business, they still has to deal w/ the garbage that was left over from the idiot before It may be that Gunn's DCU _will_ suck, but we haven't SEEN anything from it yet. All of what we've seen is leftover from Snyder and Walter Hamada (who doesn't get named often enough for the damage he caused).

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Then again, this IS James Gunn we are talking about. If you expect the new DCU to be run by a virtue signalling narcissist, you are golden.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

​@@andrewcurlutu6422dont worry gunn has talent unlike hack snyder

@ajaxmaxbitch

7 ай бұрын

​@@Dikbeegwell I think Zack has talent but Gunn is a much much better writer

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

@@ajaxmaxbitch no zack has talent for pictures and action pieces but O as a storyteller .it makes lot sense when u get to know that he was a music video director before

Jared leto as joker was a disaster 😂

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Whatever did people expect? His take on the character was so out of left field it practically fell off the edge of the planet. Then again, he WAS only as good as the script he was given.

Zack Snyder DID destroy the DCEU. He started everything on "gritty" Superman and then went into "gritty" BvS. These stories are good as CRITIQUES of Superman, NOT as the FOUNDATION.

@Six_Gorillion

7 ай бұрын

Zack snyder the kinda hack clown to go and make a gritty Barbie movie and wonder why no one came

@moisuomi

7 ай бұрын

Disagree but ok.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

​@@moisuomicry

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Hack snyder made every movie to fit his goofy bat punisher thats why every movie has a cringe colour pallete

@Maolana_ModiG

7 ай бұрын

not agree at all.

I mean I enjoyed blue beetle so idk I might just be dumb af and suicide squad 2021 and peacemaker were really good but that’s just me

@ilfirinms

7 ай бұрын

And what do these have in common? No universe. I don't get, why the "universe" is so important. MCU have one time good run with it, not denying that, right place, right time, right (and at that time original) product. Now they are collapsing to and instead of get rid of it, they multiply it to multiverse. DCEU with it's overblowed emphasis on universe skipping solo movies and ... well you know. I agree with you, I like SS2021 too, it was fresh and clean, with no tyups. Yes, there were repeating actors, but not to tie plot to some DCEU, just to be themselves in crazy scenario. The only one movie, where Margot Harley works (for me).

@Vor567tez

7 ай бұрын

Frankly speaking. These billion dollar superhero gener is going nowhere. The animated Spidervers showed that people will watch Spiderman 100 times. With same story. People like spectaculs! So WB has only thing to worry is "make it good". Which they r doing now. Gunns's idea of universe is bit different, that's what it seems. Instead of having 2 storyline going - trilogy of each character and main storyline. Like typical cinematic universe. He instead going to introduce bunch of characters indivisually throughout their own movies and they will meet at finale. He is going for a thematic universe. An over arching theme connecting all movies.

@SoftPiet

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Vor567tezthen it doesn’t sound like the superhero genre is going nowhere does it 😉 Still though I think we need more original and mid-budget films rather than just franchises and universes.

Ayo did Flash just put a baby in a microwave?? Who let Ezra touch the script

@zacharyayotte8217

7 ай бұрын

😂

I think you left out a big point in DC. Superman killing was a red flag to many. When batman came out I asked does batman kill. Yes he does. At that point I knew DC had no place for my time or money. We dont need shock value as consumers. Just a good story.

@Arander92

7 ай бұрын

I’ll never understand this complaint. Either Zod dies or innocent people do. He made that very clear “I’m going to make them SUFFER, Kal.” “Why didn’t he take Zod to space?” How long do you think he could keep that up for?

@sagepirotess6312

7 ай бұрын

@@Arander92 so people die, you deal with it, trauma, become stronger. Breaking your values or code once makes a slippery slope to break more. Even if I justify superman, fine. What was batman excuse in the following movie? And how do you tell your young nephews on Halloween batman kills? Look on tv.

@maaadcity781

7 ай бұрын

@@Arander92 kid u forgot the part where cringe cavil lasered a huge ship and crashed it in to middle of the city killing hundreds

@denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386

7 ай бұрын

@@sagepirotess6312 dude batman was killing since keatons batman stop being a hypocrite already

@sagepirotess6312

7 ай бұрын

@@denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386 never seen him kill. And no he didn't kill in dark knight or adam west batman.

Maybe they should stay away from sky beams and energy pulses, and focus on a more grounded and relatable story with street level characters.

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Then again, the other studio Marvel tried THAT on by making the character Dare Devil do the walk of shame. He's as "street" as you can get.

DCU hasn’t really technically started Flash, aqua man 2, Shazam, we’re out of James gunns control His first chapter of Gods And Monsters starts with creature commandos which is one of James gunns creations

@MASTERLUKE9899

7 ай бұрын

Yep, and the only 2 things he has done in DC has been from great to brillaint, IMO

2nd ss square was fire and peacemaker is 🔥🔥🔥

@DiobeticDaily

7 ай бұрын

Squad*

I honestly think Superman Legacy is going to end up being the most overhyped movie since Black Panther I don’t get why WB think directors who made a couple Marvel films are the end all be all

@xd9929

7 ай бұрын

To be fair though, James Gunn made 2 (debatably 3) of the best movies in the MCU.

@maaadcity781

7 ай бұрын

marvel directors ? kiddo gunn is working with WB since 2000s and he has made the best projects after TDK trilogy lol

@4deleDaz33m

7 ай бұрын

Kiddo, Gunn has had a good experience with superhero movies, why wouldn't WB want him to make Superman movie???

If DC thinks a universe reboot is going to save their movies, without major changes to the writing, they're in for a big disappointment.

As soon as they let Henry Cavill make an announcement he was back as Superman, then days later axed him from the role, I was out!

@xuvial1391

7 ай бұрын

Visually speaking Cavil looked amazing as Superman, I loved the suit design, and he did give it his best despite the godawful writing/direction he had to work with. But tragically every single DCU movie with Superman has sucked ass, and that includes Man Of Steel.

@The_Archer-he2ft

7 ай бұрын

@@xuvial1391 i mean was that cabills fault in the end? The only part i'd say was bad on cavills part was the cgi mustache removal. The story was bad because superman killed one of his big bads(zod) in his first encounter and first appearance as superman. Didnt help that superman was placed into this wierd role of godlike instead of down to earth guy with godlike abilities. Plus his second appearance was to be foil to batman who got fast track development and was made into a criminal branding psycho instead of a mentally obsessive man who wont let go of the past or soemthing closer to batman's character

@ProjectLDV

7 ай бұрын

@@xuvial1391this is facts lol

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

@@The_Archer-he2ftThen again, Superman as godlike is hardly a novel idea. The Injustice movie covered that, I believe.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Worst superman im so glad hes out .most overrated mid actor .bunch of simps who think he was good needs to touch some comics

If Shazam 2 had black Adam as the villain, then it would have been better

@craigime

7 ай бұрын

probably

@mentvltrillness

7 ай бұрын

​@@craigimeblack adam most definitely would've been better to have as an antagonist than the daughters of whoever.

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Yes, and no. It would only work if they expect the actor who plays Black Adam to play himself. If they expect him to play the actual character, they would be certain to be disappointed.

The problem with DCU is mismanagement. I always got an impression that they didnt want to push superman and batman foward. It was as if they were deliberately stagnating them. Man of steel, was a decent take on superman. Sure there were problems, but a proper sequel could have handled ths. Ben afleck too played the character well. As a broken batman( more broken than usual), there was an opportunity for the heroes journey. It was so simple, but they had to try to copy the mcu. DC is dark , make those films as they should be.

@petriew2018

7 ай бұрын

the problem is 'dark' doesn't sell to the general audience. Even the Burton films, dark as they were, were campy dark.... not warhammer 40k dark.... This is the problem DC and WB never could wrap their heads around. If you want Marvel money, yeah, you need to lighten it up and sell a more cartoon-y version of the heros than the comic book versions, because that's what sells to families. Snyder's biggest mistake was leaning too hard into the edgiest of possible comic book interpretations just to not be Marvel.... when WB wanted Marvel's box office. This left them stuck between the two, the existing grimdark superman that wasn't selling to the normies, and the obnoxiously loud snyder cultist who wanted it even darker.... and they simply refused to make a choice.

@TheSaharay1

7 ай бұрын

Ben was a good Batman, not a good Bruce. Which wouldn't normally be a problem, if he wasn't walking around as Bruce for the majority of his screentime across movies

@temwananinkana3419

7 ай бұрын

@@petriew2018 true, but dark it should be. Obviously going warhammer 40k wouldnt work for dc. They tried that with the animation: justice league apocalypse war. The heroes got mutilated in old anime fashion. Too dark. The balance needs to be there, in a crafty way.

@petriew2018

7 ай бұрын

@@temwananinkana3419 they need to keep the characters and themes.... but, honestly, stop listening to the comics fans so much. 'dark', love it or hate it, will not work if you want the same kind of mainstream success Marvel once enjoyed. If the comics fans want big budget movies of their favorite heroes, they kind of need to make peace with the best their going to get is the mainline animate versions, because anything else will not work for the studio's bottom line, which in the end rules everything. Nolan was pushing what you can get away with for mainstream success, but even that wouldn't have sustained an extended franchise. This, honestly, is why i think Snyder was such a massive mistake. I will admit to having enjoyed some Snyder movies, he's not a man without talent, but he is not a man who understands what it takes to truly be 'main stream'. His vision for superman was the complete opposite of what WB needed to actually launch a franchise.

@temwananinkana3419

7 ай бұрын

@@petriew2018 his biggest problem was arrogance. He refused to capture the spirit of the characters. In addition to this, i will emphasize, the dcu was mismanaged. Fine goin too dark may not be the way to go, but at least pick a lane a stick with it. They mixed dark tones, serious social commentary and the light heart humour you would expect in a spiderman film. Right ingredients individually but not in the same dish in the propotions they dished out.

no super hero fatigue, just bad movie fatigue.

@jude_I

5 ай бұрын

No I think there really is superhero fatigue. People no longer give serious fucks about the CBM genre. But I still believe people might show up for the A list characters. (superman etc)

@jesuslikeslsdnwiid

5 ай бұрын

@jude_I lol no, ppl who like comic books never went to see these shit movies in the first place. Iron man 2 crap Iron man 3 crap Dr strange crap all the Thor movies crap endgame pure dogshit all the Tom Holland Spiderman movies are shit too

@spider-manunknown9193

5 ай бұрын

There’s no such thing as superhero fatigue.

Maybe Superhero movies being no longer mainstream is a good thing. They don't have to cater to mainstream audiences and can focus on what the fans like and be more niche.

the crazy thing is that Snyder was the PERFECT director to make Watchmen because he has always said he loves to make Superheroes into real people. In an interview he literally said he wanted to do that to Superman and that is why Superman kills Zod and Batman kills people. He never wanted to bring those characters to the screen, he wanted to change them to fit into his own view of them. Glad he is gone making movies on Netflix that are garbage.

@tHeWasTeDYouTh

7 ай бұрын

@@user-fm3xr9yz3i Zach Snyder literally said that in an interview before Man of Steel came out......

@SGN30

7 ай бұрын

Cope 😂😂

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Funny thing is his characters never were real ppl .his chracters always the most boring and one dimentional 😂

I remember when Ezra Miller was choking out random female fans and everyone was like, "I dunno WB... Maybe you should just scrap this entire Flash movie or put it straight on streaming and cut your losses now." And David Zaslov and James Gunn were all like, "Nah! It'll be fine! This one's actually good! It's worth putting up with Ezra Miller for. You'll see!" And then the movie came out and performed worse than Morbius. Everyone remember that? I remember that.

@damsviiii_ty

7 ай бұрын

Jesus 🤦🤦 you're so ignorant 😭 James Gunn had nothing to do with WB releasing the flash.

@JoshuaKevinPerry

7 ай бұрын

They announced the flash movie during S1 of The Flash show and released it after S9 of The Flash show. WB has been hilarious for me.

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately for them, they couldn't Batgirl the Flash Movie. The Wokite cultist in Hollyweird who think crossdressers are secular saints would NEVER have allowed it.

@guiramos3733

7 ай бұрын

Except James Gunn never said that. He did (which is baffling indeed 😆) say The Flash was good, but he never said it was worth putting up with Ezra for it. It was too late to scrap it bro if you compare to Batgirl. I don’t think they had a choice from a business perspective…

@johnjohns8863

7 ай бұрын

That's because James Gunn is a paedophile who sticking up for another paedophile like Ezra Millar, paedos stick together

Forget a disaster. A disaster draws attention. I can't remember most of the movies that DC has made. I remember the movie they cancelled more because it was funny that they said, "you know, we can actually make more money not trying."

Henry Cavill deserved a MoS trilogy. It pisses me off that WB just disregarded his ideas for MoS 2 as well.

@kira-dk2mx

2 ай бұрын

I really liked him as Superman and they wasted him so epically. He's Superman, he should've gotten at least two movies, same with Batman. It hurts more because he genuinely cares for the roles he plays. First this, then the Witcher. If anyone's planning a Warhammer 40000 series, they better get that right or he'll murder them all.

Fun fact about DCEU. Snyder wanted to do solo movies for each hero before, but WB said no and then he asked to at least make BvS and later also JL two parters which was also denied. And from what we can see with Snyder Cut which was 2 movies in length he could have developed the characters and motivations a lot more if BvS got to be a 2 parter let alone have a standalone for each hero. So I do enjoy all 3 movies he made, but with BvS I do feel like we should have gotten a solo Batman before (Wonder Woman got a solo movie after which made it work, but they wouldn't agree to make a Batman Solo movie before the literal Justice League movie?). So yeah I love both MOS and Justice League (Snyder Cut) and do somewhat enjoy BvS UE for what it tried with what it had. It's obvious that WB is just incompetent. Same with Universals Dark Universe. Although Dracula Untold was divisive (some only wanting Dracula to be horror movies or thinking him having humanity instead of just a bloodthirsty monster is a disservice to history even though it stays very true to history where the world saw him as a monster while his country saw him as a hero) there are a lot of fans that wanted to see it continue, but they dropped the planned sequel for a shared universe starting with The Mummy where it was a terrible movie with no fans and had Dr Jekyll as Nick Fury (why? Dracula the centuries old leader who have fought many wars would be a much better pick. This is like making Bruce Banner the leader of Avengers) and because of that it leads up to having the mummy itself be the one joining, but no they make Tom Cruises character the one recruited. Like the idea everyone thought of when hearing a Dark Universe would be like the monsters uniting to either bring the world to its knees or try to live among the humans (depending on the tone they want to go for) and depending on the choice Van Helsing could either be the ultimate hero saving the world or the villain.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

The fact snyder is a hack who make dogfood movies and still demanding is the funniest thing .mos flopped made less profit than shazam 1 .thats why wb went bvs route cancelling solo movies

No one mentioning how they paid JJ Abrams millions to reboot DC but then saw he killed both starwars and startrek.

I love the part where he actually criticizes the DCU. Glad he didn't mention the past DCEU projects,

@insensitive919

2 ай бұрын

Detective Comics Comics Universe

The thing which baffles me the most is that they failed to take lessons from their faliures... like you expect them to do right things after justice league's disaster but no they continued to screw themselves over and over again with dumb decisions one after another, and they fired Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck but kept Erza Miller.... I can never understand what goes into their heads

@kylehicks9018

4 ай бұрын

Partly they can't learn because they can't admit personal fault for canceling the Snyderverse DCEU for the Josstice League. The other part is they're listening to shills and liars like this commentor that is pretending that the Incredible Hulk, Thor, and Iron Man 2 were better and more profitable than the first 4 films of the DCEU. They weren't. DC management ignored fans and didn't understand their box office was growing. Then they reversed course 3 times at least and lost more money each time. The GunnVerse will also fail too because the fanbase is split even worse than Star Wars and some of tbe same greedy idiots are still in charge.

@eraba661

4 ай бұрын

@@kylehicks9018Yeah for real! I didn't watched any DC movies since they fired Henry and Affleck, It feels like they slapped their fans and spit on them

What sucks too is that even if they do make a good DC movie they are gonna ruin it with their greed and hubris.

The only movie that didn't bomb.. was also not in the DCEU. It's a standalone universe.

Iron Man wasn’t an A lister until the movies

@GefilteFish.

7 ай бұрын

facts. Many believe Iron man and Captain were marvel's heavy hitters.

I think the DC Universe a has a lot of potential and go to many different genres like horror with some Batman stories and Swamp Thing and fantasy like with Wonder Woman.

@g.e.o.r.g.e...

7 ай бұрын

*HAD Their only potential now is to sell it on the cheap to Apple or someone stupid enough to buy it.

@joshuataylor7443

7 ай бұрын

@@g.e.o.r.g.e...why would anyone be stupid to buy it?

@g.e.o.r.g.e...

7 ай бұрын

@@joshuataylor7443 buy it for what purpose lol? It wouldn't make any money for years and would surely have a price tag in the neighborhood of Disney's purchase of Lucasfilm. Look how well that turned out for them. Someone other than Apple would also come to the table with ridiculously long terms that would eat into their ask with crazy inflation. If it's a tall order for the company that built these characters to make any sort of profit, why would a new guy be any better at it?

Ya the Rock basically begged for years to play Black Adam, than when he finally got his wish he sabotaged it by refusing to costar with Shazam. Yikes!😬

Difference is that second Suicide Squad was fucking awesome

@perseusjoppa426

7 ай бұрын

It sucked big time!

Snyder didn't ruin the franchise, it was the studio mismanagement

Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill both were perfect casting and would've gone down in movie history as two who defined a character like RDJ and Iron Man but WB's Incompetency didn't let that happen.

@Max-qt5lb

7 ай бұрын

The castings were pretty great for both. Too bad BvS was so ugly and awful, ruined the whole thing, and killed the excitement for most people immediately

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Actually, I'm not sure I agree about Affleck. The guy who played Batman during the Batman TAS tv series probably ought to be considered the definitive Batman.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Most laughable comment .cavil is a mid actor with wooden acting who played worst superman while affleck is a good actor who played worst batman .touch a comic son

@GefilteFish.

7 ай бұрын

i disagree. Yes,cavill look the part and looked good as superman but...what about clark kent? ben affleck played a good bruce wayne but his batman....kills multiple people?

9:27 I wouldn't say Snyder ruined DC, I'd rather say DC didn't took the time Snyder needed while shooting Justice League and roped Whedon on it to completely redo the entire movie with no clear backup plan. Snyder was following darker comic book storyline which would've been a revolutionary to see in big screen but the studio chickened out and Snyder's daughter's passing also didn't helped Snyder at that time and I don't blame him on this one.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Snyder shills are a embarssment to society .oh villain with horns trynna find boxes to impress a big baddie and has family issues while group 6 heroes came together stop him and at the 3rd act sttongest member comes back and defeat the villain easily .oh wat thats avengers .improve ur taste snyder is a hack

bro the reboot hasn’t even started, don’t shit on something you haven’t seen

@TheMovieCynic

7 ай бұрын

Ironic because you obviously didn’t watch the video.

@demotxcs

7 ай бұрын

@@TheMovieCynic your title of the video says otherwise

@herloss448

7 ай бұрын

@@TheMovieCynic ur title says something else

@sarov7658

7 ай бұрын

@@demotxcs isn't it called dcu or dceu

@demotxcs

7 ай бұрын

@@sarov7658 the dceu is the old cinematic universe they tried building, the dcu is the new rebooted universe

Coming to Zack Snyder's defense, Man of Steel was a pretty good movie. Batman V Superman seems like a movie studio execs demanded in order to bridge Man of Steel to Justice League in just one movie. If they turned the story into 2 or 3 movies, it could have been better. And if you've seen Zack Snyder's version of Justice League, you know he's not to blame for what we got in theatres. I don't believe Zack Snyder killed the DCEU. I think the Warner Bros executives did.

@HR4_

7 ай бұрын

Facts

@petriew2018

7 ай бұрын

Man of Steel was good movie.... until you think about it for 30 seconds and you realize everything happens because everyone is a moron all the time...

@TheYodelingViking

7 ай бұрын

@@petriew2018 Care to give any examples?

@petriew2018

7 ай бұрын

@@TheYodelingViking The inciting incident of Superman's life is his dad basically giving up on life to die in a tornado superman could have saved him from, except for the fact that his father also taught him to value hiding his powers over human life.... even his own father's life....

@SerginhoPMoura

7 ай бұрын

​@@petriew2018his father was a human, he was scared for his son exposing his nature and wanted to protect him, I'd say that's pretty real.

I wish DC wouldn’t copy the cinematic universe plan, but just do a bunch of stand alone movies created by people who actually have a vision for the projects. I’d have loved to see Mike Flannigans proposed Clayface horror film.

@petriew2018

7 ай бұрын

ironically the two DC-based movies they've released that had nothing to do with their 'cinematic universe' (Joker and The Batman), have been miles better both in quality and profitability. Almost as if they don't need the gimmick when they've got decent writing instead....

@samu-ell

7 ай бұрын

​​@@petriew2018yeah but lets be honest Its *Batman* and Joker.

@samu-ell

7 ай бұрын

Their name alone is enough to bring people into cinema

one of my biggest gripes with shazam 2 was that it was basically a rehash of the first one with way too many leads and redundancy of powers. I was really hoping that the second kid would be the villain: he loves the lime light and attention from saving people so he starts creating his own disasters to save people from. Then he discovers he's able to steal the powers of his brothers/sisters...then it's just super shazam vs shazam. i don't know how to resolve this outside "don't be a dick" but i think that would have been a lot more compelling than oh look, another wizard. bad joke, bad joke, bad joke.

My son 10 years old biggest fan of dcu has not want to see any films because he says that they don’t matter for the new universe 😔

@muffinman248

7 ай бұрын

Ur son should find a better hobby if hes a fan of cringe dceu

@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897

7 ай бұрын

@@muffinman248 i pretty sure they ment their kid doesnt want to see the new movies because they wont matter after the reboot.

@muffinman248

7 ай бұрын

@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 im sorry but how is his son be a fan of dcu when its not even started yet ?

I mean, I gotta disagree with the take saying that Affleck and Cavil's movies weren't good. Mos and BvS are legit good, they were making money, if WB have had the guts to continue the story in Snyder's vision, the DCEU would have work. Besides, I have to say, the BVS theatrical release was the shitty WB version. The Ultimate version was an overall better film. As well the Snyder's version of Justice League. Was an awesome extravaganza. Other than that, good points in this vid.

@ninjanibba4259

7 ай бұрын

That's your opinion, the facts are the movies suck

@SomeoneSomewhereMusic

7 ай бұрын

@@ninjanibba4259 Why?

@ninjanibba4259

7 ай бұрын

@@SomeoneSomewhereMusic Dude seriously doesn't understand either chcharacter, the plots make no sense, everyone acts the same bland to stale with little emotions, destroying properly seems to be the only way Snyder knows how to end movies, dialogue is pretentious to straight up dumb and the tones are depressing, yet they're superheroes supposed to inspire Snyder only knows how to make something look nice with no depth behind it, as well as being nihilistic despite the supposedly uprising of heroes vs villains....the heroes themselves are villains by half their actions

@SomeoneSomewhereMusic

7 ай бұрын

@@ninjanibba4259 Wouldn't that count as your opinion?

@matthovorka5632

7 ай бұрын

@@SomeoneSomewhereMusicI think the box office returns are proof enough these movies suck. How is it that GOTG, a franchise with a talking tree and raccoon, managed to become more household names in the last 8 years than Batman and Superman .

I'm down for more superhero movies if they're done right, with stories that do the characters and the universe justice. Basically, just have good stories. A good movie that just happens to have superheroes in it. I'm still mad that these fucks kept Ezra "Reverse Flash" Miller but axes Batgirl for the most asinine reasons.

It's true about Superman not being a lucrative film franchise. MOS made only 40 million and SR broke even. That WBD is launching the DCU with a Superman film is inexplicable. The consensus is that it will lose money. John Campea is predicting it will be a financial flop, yet he wants it released first?! He did a vid last week pushing back at speculation SL could be delayed for several years. That is exactly what should happen. Launch with their strongest film IP - Batman. Let the DCU build up good will and then do a Superman film. And bring in someone other than Gunn to write and direct it. His SL is going to esentially be an ensemble film featuring Lois and Clark. No wonder most believe it will bomb. The strike gives Zaslav the cover to scale back/change Gunn's plans. If Aquaman 2 does poorly watch for big changes to the DCU.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Mos flopped thats the truth .even shazam made 73mil.profit 😂

Personally, I'll take a CGI monster final battle over yet another CGI mirror match final battle.

The suicide squad and the Batman were the only good movies dc has made in the last few years

@SGN30

7 ай бұрын

The suicide squad was absolutely garbage. I also barely kept awake for the batman

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

​@@SGN30hack snyder shills always have the worst opinion 😂

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

agreed

What is Zack Snyder not known for- making a creepy strip dance movie about orphan children.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Snyder also known for making worst batman and superman while making worst joker and lex .its record

@nguyenquangvinhAnother

7 ай бұрын

Oh wow, now Zack Snyder made "strip dance orphan children movie" now?

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

@@nguyenquangvinhAnother yes he did

@nguyenquangvinhAnother

7 ай бұрын

@@Dikbeeg proof? All i need is the link you said Put space between the dot and slash to make the link appear i Will Watch The Proof

The Suicide Squad (2021) is the best DCU movie. Great writing, compelling characters, has the right balance of comedy, drama and action, and great acting. However, it’s basically a stand alone movie that doesn’t contribute to a cinematic universe. Black Adam could have been great if they took more time to develop the other characters such as Dr. Fate, Hawkman, and Atom Smasher. Instead they all were shoved in without explaining their backstories, and *spoilers* they all die anyways. But I really think it could have been a great movie series.

@maaadcity781

7 ай бұрын

we know

Everybody and their momma now says Snyder had a vision, and it should have played out. Fact is, general MCU loving audiences did not like the dark and gritty MoS or BvS. You can lie and say the movies were bad, or Snyder had a hand in bringing down the genre, but that is BS. The MCU and it's cookie cutter fast food factory movies did it. Movie goers that accepted dumb movies because they were "fun/funny" did it. Not Snyders misunderstood (at the time) vision for DC. Not enough action maybe, but do not fault the movie for your short attention span.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Hack snyder has iq of 69 so is his fandom .is sad his fandom still think he can make good movies .general audience want good movies snyder made dogfood

@muffinman248

7 ай бұрын

Snyder had a vision it was eating dogpoo

You know what? To me Zak Snider and DCEU are tied together.. and I’m so tired of him. And his fan boys. No I don’t mind dark and gritty. Dammit I don’t care if a movie “looks cool and stylish” that’s not enough to keep someone sitting for 3-4 hours..

@RegalPixelKing

4 ай бұрын

Zack Snyder simps are bad, but Henry Cavill simps are even worse. They are screech that he was irreplaceable and is the best movie adaptation of Superman even though all he did was an okay job in a bunch of bad to terrible movies.

The Suicide Squad, directed by James Gunn, is the best DCEU movie ever made. Not a high bar, true, but it was a genuinely great movie. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 was one of the few superhero movies that has recently come out to get a solid positive critical reception as well as making a decent profit in the box office, and that's with a 250 million dollar budget. Again, that was also directed by James Gunn. I don't think people are suffering from "super hero fatigue" I think people are suffering from shitty movie fatigue. As long as James Gunn does what he's been doing and makes good movies then I think DCU can have a chance and superhero movies might even get second wind.

@SpokeNyan1390

4 ай бұрын

James Gunn is a p3do who made p3do tweets. Which got him fired in 2016.

@lastmonarchistproduction_253

4 ай бұрын

@@SpokeNyan1390evidence, or do you think the tweets he made are considered ped since they don't look ped

man of steel was the best live action superman we got, what you talking bout willis - you should watch wtf happened to this movie in regards to justice league, lots of your assertions dont make sense

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

U high on cringe

@boobies753

7 ай бұрын

Nope

@DopelyTV

7 ай бұрын

which one was better@@Dikbeeg

@DopelyTV

7 ай бұрын

@@boobies753 which one is better

@boobies753

7 ай бұрын

@@DopelyTV superman 78 and superman and lois

The Batman and Joker are safe bets for WB. They're still trying to copy the success of the Dark Knight trilogy. There was no risk in making these movies. They have no clue how to take the time to build up a cinematic universe, and lay the foundation. They can't do, it's not possible because WB wants to make Avengers level money without putting in the work. Another 10 years down the drain.

@johnsonsmithson45

7 ай бұрын

EXACTLY! beautiful worded. The problem since day 1 since 2013 is WB was jealous of marvel and wanted to get in the game ASAP. The problem is besides man of steel and they just jumped straight into BVS and JL. They should have been much more patient and at least given us 2 ben Affleck batman solo films 2 superman films and maybe a flash and aqua man and ww film THEN you collaborated them. I will just add the only 1 single thing WB did right was casting. I think each of the 6 main character were all geniusely casted and yes imma be honest I liked Ezra millers performances (I know hes a terrible person) but he is really good. Ben and Henry are the greatest and for the other 3 I don't know who else you would cast

New Suicide Squad would have made BIG money if it wasnt for Covid. That movie is fakin hilleriouse.

@EverydayWithBobby

2 ай бұрын

No it wouldn’t lmao. It didn’t even do well on streaming 😂 right after its release..

@okay__.

2 ай бұрын

​@@EverydayWithBobbyit did do well on streaming

the incredibles was peak super hero movie

I think DC should turn to animation or something, them trying to become MCU with the cinematic universe isn't working and they shouldn't be rebooting it over and over again until something sticks, like you said, superhero movies are just becoming oversaturated and mundane now. As a general cinema goer, I want to see different genres get the focus, like horror, or comedies or even documentaries, just something that isn't another superhero reboot movie with origin story again.

@The_Archer-he2ft

7 ай бұрын

Honestly its quite suprising they dont pander hard to comic fans instead of pushing for mainstream because we end up with bland villians, hero characters different from their comic counterparts to seem more "real", and realistic worlds being affected by complete nonsense

How you gonna hate on Zack Snyder when he made the best movies in the DCU 😂

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

U meant worst .mos is the worst superman movies bvs is one of the worst movies in general while snyder cut is laughbly bad movie but kids compare it to joss cut and say its good 😂

@actualnotanewbie

7 ай бұрын

@@Dikbeeg Hmm, I'm a bit curious, what exactly is bad about Zack Snyder's Justice League? I can see not liking some aspects of Batman V. Superman even though I liked the Ultimate Edition, but Zack Snyder got pretty much everything right when it came to Zack Snyder's Justice League. It's one of the best team-up superhero movies ever made.

@maaadcity781

7 ай бұрын

@@actualnotanewbie its dogfood .u just have dogfood taste let me explain .snyder is a hack .cheap version of avengers .oh no villain with horns trynna find boxes to impress big baddie and has family issues then 6 heroes come together to stop him .at the 3rd act strongest member comes back and beat him easily .i can go more further if u want

@actualnotanewbie

7 ай бұрын

@@maaadcity781 please do, cuz you really didn't explain how it's bad in any way 😂

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

@@actualnotanewbie i already did but its okay .ww blowing up a building to stop terrorists from blowing it up 😂kAl eL nO , ww goes Ahahahahah , flash touches hotdogs while groaping women , women sniff sweaters , darkseid has dimentia , flash turn back time ruining the stakes , it was a disaster

Is it strange to want a movie that isn't some kind of extended universe and isn't another origin story?

@theworldisavampire2905

7 ай бұрын

Another batman origin story? Yes sir

@Christian_Ada1

7 ай бұрын

@@theworldisavampire2905 I really do not want to watch another movie of Batman. He’s so disgusting at this point there’s nothing interesting to say about the character whatsoever. Seriously, Batman, Finatticz, or zealots are the worst

@Knick3607

7 ай бұрын

@@Christian_Ada1 ?

The fact they have a movie in the slate titled “Waller” kills me

@pablogradiente

7 ай бұрын

It is like having a Star Wars movie named Jar Jar. Actually, Waller is a series, but I can't stand the fact that we have confirmed a series about a D-list character and there is no clue about Wally West, the Teen Titans or even Constantine.

@loganwithlightsabers3051

7 ай бұрын

It’s supposed to a show on Max a spin off of a spin off in Peacemaker

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

@@loganwithlightsabers3051Hmmmm....in that case, I'll take "Things People Couldn't Possibly Care Less About" for $2K, Alex.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Waller is lot better character than any character snyder has ever done

@iamepic6726

7 ай бұрын

@@Dikbeegthat literally and factually makes no sense. You’re just a Snyder hating npc

Always turn off "Verified Reviews" when showing Rotten Tomatoes scores. All Users is the only realistic metric. Many of these movies did not do well with audiences but have ridiculous 88% scores and stuff.

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Then again, it's been rumored recently that some independent critics have been bribed into providing positive reviews of awful movies if they had the right "Messaging." What a shock, said no one ever.

A big problem that I think is about to repeat itself with this new DCU is that TWO times in a row they have made "100% stand alone Batman movies that are a Director's creative vision for a solo version of the character"...and tried to launch a shared universe with SUPERMAN as an alternative, and then a "new Batman" as a part of that universe. They had The Dark Knight Trilogy. No amount of respect or deference to Nolan should have kept them from using that to launch the DC Universe. Even if Nolan didn't return, they ignored the "Conclusion" of The Dark Knight Rises, and just used Batman Begins and The Dark Knight as the loose back-story for their new Batman. Even if they re-cast Wayne and Alfred, lean into references and connections back to BB and TDK so that people feel like this new version is tethered to what we've had before. NOW....they let Reeves make his own stand-alone "The Batman" that was well received and financially successful....and are letting THAT stand 100% on its own. Instead of jumping on a successful film and using that to build a universe, they are actively trying to pick a Superman film to launch a universe with and 'force it' into happening. Just like the animated DC universe of the 90s and early 00s...the model has been clear from the start. Launch with DC's most popular and grounded character of Batman(AKA the Iron Man-esque character) and then use his success and popularity to introduce an insanely over-powered character like Superman, play the two of them off one another, and THEN move to the Justice League as their supporting ensemble.

I hope novel adaptations make comeback. But again, given Hollywood's writing levels when it comes to these, I have little hope for them either.

@somethingclever8916

7 ай бұрын

Movies are more about selling products then story telling

It wasn't Zack Snyder fault! Edit: Since there’s some confusion below I’ll add context. Zack Snyder didn’t want to take on a full fledged superhero franchise. He only wanted to create a standalone story. Then when Marvels created the Avengers, WB saw that and was salavating at the mouth hoping to achieve similar success with their franchise. I mean it’s no coincidence they got Joss Wehdon to direct Justice League (2017) who also directed The Avengers (2012). It’s the studio to blame because they wanted to compete with Marvel and rush projects to do so. Then there’s the ever lasting quest for them to try to push each of their IPs to try to make $1 billion, they lost sight of good storytelling in the process.

@jturner2577

7 ай бұрын

The Goodwill left when he did.

@lightingthief4482

7 ай бұрын

Tell that to all the haters

@ProjectLDV

7 ай бұрын

It absolutely was. His botched MoS and vision basically left the audiences no alternative when the MCU turned to ass butter. That accelerated the fatigue that we’re seeing now. Had the DC movies not been lazy trash we’d still be in the boom period.

@Caleb6000

7 ай бұрын

Zack Snyder's original take on Superman: "What if... he killed people?" Zack Snyder's original take on Batman: "What if.... he killed people??"

@ajohndaeal-asad6731

7 ай бұрын

@@ProjectLDV Zack Snyder didn’t want to take on a full fledged superhero franchise. It’s the studio to blame because they wanted to compete withM instead and rush project. Then there’s the ever lasting quest for them to try to push each of their IPs to try to make $1 billion, they lost sight of good storytelling in the process.

Why wont you refer to Escum Miller as a hurr durr dey/dem, like what YMS does? Virtue signaling is very important!

I’ve always said DC’s Animated movies run laps around any of the live action stuff. It’s a shame they aren’t nearly as well known in popular culture; Under the Red Hood is one of my favorite DC movies of all time

The Marvel universe thrived in live action cinema, and the DC universe thrived in animated televison. I think that's totally fine. I've mostly ignored the DC live action films because i grew up with the DCAU and feel like I've already seen the best on-screen stories of these characters that I'm going to see. The DCAU is so special and was made with such love. I just can't take Ben Affleck seriously when the Bruce Timm/Kevin Conroy version is so ingrained in my mind as the most fully realized on-screen Batman. I don't think it's coincidence thar DC works better in animation - the heroes and villains are a tad bit cartoonier than the Marvel ones, and so it makes sense.

@The_Archer-he2ft

7 ай бұрын

Part of it's the power scale, Marvel has some heavy hitters but DC is a compeltely different ballgame, plus marvel could've had a decent animated universe but quite a few of their heroes/villians aren't as recongnizable like DC is. The only heros i had heard of prior to the marvel films besides spider man were because my father was a DC superman nerd with a little marvel knowledge.

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Then again, Batman TAS came out when we had GOOD TV. When the writers actually card about having a relatable realistic plot without preaching Wokeite propaganda.

@DSS712

7 ай бұрын

​@@The_Archer-he2ft While there weren't enough recognizable heroes yet in Marvel as a whole, let's not discredit the fact that X Men as a Marvel subgroup had a great animated series with "X Men Evolution." As someone who never read the comics, I fell in love with a lot of the X men characters because of that show. And regardless of the popularity of the DC characters at the time, I also just feel like the DCAU did such a great job of telling well-written super hero / villain stories. All other great shows aside, one could even say that Justice League acted as a "mini cinematic universe" in and of itself. I say this because the show did two things which were very unusual for animated programs at that time: 1. They had a single story run for the duration of the 30 minute block rather than splitting the story into 2 shorter episodes. Plus, they frequently made two-parter 1 hour episodes if more time was needed. 2. Instead of cramming all of the main characters into every single episode by means of B plots, the writers took turns removing certain main characters from certain episodes completely, so that they could give maximum amount of screen time to the particular heroes that were being focused on in that episode. Basically, Justice League cared A LOT about good writing.

I was just reading how Batman in the DCU is already running into trouble over how to introduce Robin without it being problematic.

@cathedral1375

7 ай бұрын

honestly don't know why they care- we all know that bruce has issues bro was pumping himself full of drugs in the last one they made.

@GefilteFish.

7 ай бұрын

How can batman in the dcu be in trouble, per say, if we even haven't gotten a glimpse of the first official dcu film....superman legacy..?

@herloss448

7 ай бұрын

lol it makes total sense why they would start with damien .cuz pattinson exists and u dont need loner 2 batmen and robert may have a robin in 2nd part too

Plus, the 1/8 movie that didn’t bomb isn’t part of the main canon - so *every canon DCU movie since BoP has had middling BO results at best. Aaaand only 1 movie in the last decade (Aquaman) has made >1B. Yikes Edit: yeah 1B being the baseline is high but when a movie costs 300M and needs 600M to profit, you need 1B for ROI and fund a sequel

Was that new direction down? Because it’s sinking like the titanic. The DCEU made it easy for me. They dropped Henry Cavill so I dropped them.

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Then again, DC has been bleeding red ink for YEARS, so Cavill's asking price may have been more than they were willing to pay. Typical short term thinking on their part in lieu of long term big picture stuff.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

They dropped the worst superman and a mid actor ? Good riddance

I’ve always loved DC more than Marvel and it pains me to see the movies do terrible at the box office and not pulling good ratings. Hopefully James Gunn give these amazing heroes the justice they deserve.

Nice one, Suicide Squad was not a sequel, it was a roboot that was needed and a soft interview for Gunn.

There were no solo Batman movies only one Superman solo movie, no build up for the next Justice League (as far as I'm aware). In a DC CINEMATIC UNIVERSE. Instead we got multiple movies of niche characters... What ?

Honestly I think DC should stick to their animated universe. It is clearly their strong side (Stronger than even Marvel). The DCAMU was absolute perfection and almost every movie paid off. Super underrated.

@The_Archer-he2ft

7 ай бұрын

They just used the characters how they should be; similar to their comic coutnerparts while being down to earth enough to relate to common audiences. DCEU spat in fan's faces right away by making a "darker" theme which just meant that i guess superman just straight murders people in his first battle and batman brands criminals making him more psychotic than heroic making people not see him as a hero, the only character that seems slightly heroic is wonderwoman since cyborg doesnt want to be there, aquaman barely seems to want to be there, and flash is acting more like spiderman than barry allen

@Ki_Adi_Mundi

7 ай бұрын

When done correctly animation seems to be the perfect medium for superhero stories.

What is the point? DCEU is dead courtesy of james gunn. So what is the point of watching it?

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Well, not quite YET, but soon. He's already been feeding it arsenic by getting rid of Henry Cavill.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

​@@andrewcurlutu6422he got rid of worst superman .good riddance 😂

I didn't even realize there was an Aquaman 2 coming out.

The biggest problem is how many times WB changes their casting, how are we to learn to love if they can't stick to the same people.

Random tangent brought by the aquaman clip: can we stop giving lasers knockback? Yes, photons have mass but a billion lumen flashlight isn't going to make a pebble fly backwards. It just makes the powers feel generic instead of nondescript energy yote from one's hands, it's nindescript energy flung from their face. The Boys nailed Homelander's heat vision, just burns whatever he looks at, no knockback, simple, it makes sense.

@ToeCutter0

7 ай бұрын

Your flashlight doesn’t fly out of your hand each time you turn it on?! Seriously, great point. These are things I frequently think about during films, and why the scenes in these films move so fast: To prevent you from having time to think about what’s happening. There’s a very fine line between a great superhero film and a really bad superhero film. With great attention to detail, we get Man of Steel. When folks get lazy and write their script while filming the movie, it’s just a bunch of actors in silly costumes, regardless of all the pricey CGI. These clowns don’t understand the meaning of “suspension of disbelief”, so how could they possibly focus on maintaining said suspension of disbelief? I think the superhero genre is dead. It’s become uncool so fast? The studios got lazy, stopped caring and let their golden goose die from neglect.

@BlazingKhioneus

7 ай бұрын

@@ToeCutter0 I think the laser eyes having force behind them isnt a laziness thing, just a dumb trope that got started because "other powers got knockback to show the impact so why not just do the same for lasers so they feel impactful too?" It may also be iron man beams and eye lasers accidentally being given a false equivilancy in these people's heads. Either way, it can very easily be turn-your-brain-off screenwriting that noone along the chain bothers to question.

How dare you bait me with Cavill in the thumbnail 😂

2:04 that's not actually true. After BvS came suicide squad which made 800mill then Aquaman that made 1billion. It was the tonal shift that started to put everyone off. Your logic for Zack being the one to destroy the superhero genre doesn't make sense when he was fired in 2017, WB had plenty of oppertunities to course correct since then so how does that fall on zack?

@sathymurugans5521

7 ай бұрын

Legacy flops...... these mfs : Snyder ruined the brand 😭😭😭

@TheMovieCynic

7 ай бұрын

Snowball effect my guy, I state it right in the video.

@JanesChris

7 ай бұрын

BvS (which had batman, superman and wonder women) only made 800 mil. in the same year where Zootopia, jungle book and even secret life of pets earned more. Also it was universally agreed to be a critical failure.

I still cannot believe Ezra Miller is still around. Well, i maybe can if we consider how much Hollywood likes kids.

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

SOME of them appear to, anyway. Leave the lowly blue collar workers out of it though. I highly doubt they have anything to do with that highly dubious stuff.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Who told u eza is around ? 🤡

The DC movies that work are the ones that turn "super people" in to actual human beings living in a real world. Which means only Batman movies work. Joker was amazing, Batman was amazing. Just some fresh takes on characters that are otherwise in a fantasy world. That said, these are independent films, not connected to a whole universe, and I think DC's strength is in that. Vertigo has the best stories in the whole DC series, and I don't think people would be too worried if a movie connects to another in any way. In the end we just want to see some good movies. The DC films that people actually enjoyed are the ones who focus on telling a compelling story, not the ones that try to be what Marvel's Avengers used to be. I know the future of DC can still be great, they have amazing characters with so much potential, but we do live in a capitalist society so yeah f* that

Deserved for their treatment of Cavill

@SombraCheeks

7 ай бұрын

Cavill will be fine with his piles of cash

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

@@SombraCheeksAlmost certainly. There' no rumors of a messy divorce in the offing that could drain said piles of cash. His Warhammer thing in the works could very well add to his bank account, as well.

@Dikbeeg

7 ай бұрын

Cavil is the worst superman .so glad hes out

@swastikarya941

7 ай бұрын

@@Dikbeeg L take

@maaadcity781

7 ай бұрын

@@swastikarya941 worst superman who has no character no personalities O chemistry with lois ,no character development ,acts the same as clark and superman ,just a uncharismatic boring murderer .hows that take ?

Warner Bros DC is like a terrible hedge fund that keep making loosing bets I can't understand where the money comes from? Batman in the real world? Christian Bale?

It's a miracle Warner Brothers could fuck up a franchise so much, lol

@andrewcurlutu6422

7 ай бұрын

Actually, it's more of a curse.I suspect somebody at DC wound up on Old Scratch's People To Do list...etched in stone.

Just discovered your channel recently, and I've really been enjoying your content. Great work

Marvel has been getting dangerously close to killing their own MCU franchise..... They've been a shadow of their previous awesomeness for quite a while now.... putting out disappointment after meh... After underwelmer for some time.... Often feeling like the formula is the same... The jokes and emotional hooks are more contrived and the inspiration is just kind of D.O.A. Maybe it's also superhero burnout..... Finally taking hold. I was thinking recently, I could see a reversal where DCU the up making the better movies... The question is will it be doomed anyway... From too big a hole to crawl out of and superhero fatigue....

Just gotta need to google who Ezra Miller is and then who Amber Heard is and that they somehow stand behind both these individuals. Right there you know why the DCU deserves so much to go to hell

@NukaCola514

7 ай бұрын

Lol yet Marvel let a pedophile direct multiple X-Men movies and don't even try to say they didn't know Bryan Singer was like that, word gets around in Hollywood and they cover it up. I'm sure there's plenty of MCU actors with some dark skeletons in their closets, not to mention the shit company that is Disney 🤷🏻‍♂️

I've said this before, but anyone looking to get into the business side of the entertainment industry should look at DC/WB for examples of what NOT to do. Its incredible that we're I don't even care how many movies into what is supposed to be a shared universe, yet there's no overarching plot to any of this. At the very least Snyder had a vague "maybe they fight Darkseid eventually" thing going on, but ever since he was fired, there's been nothing.

I just want more personal stakes in superhero movies nowadays, on a much smaller scale than a villain that simply wants to destroy the city/world/universe/metaverse. And I also don't want the movie to end in a CGI f*ckfest where it's all blurry, no actual humans, and with impossible camera movements. No, hire good actors and good stunt people to do those fights, have them in wires to fly around-just use real people and real cameras. Less is more with CGI, just watch the OG Jurassic Park. And finally, take the f*cking time to cook those scripts-don't rush them and try to fix it during production and in edit. Take the time to develop, reiterate, and hone a story, with threedimensional characters, with character development and arcs, and with personal stakes. Also, try to use themes.

@Knick3607

7 ай бұрын

I feel like it's hard to be grounded with Superman movies.

Anyone notice how the woke left did NOT cancel Ezra Miller after literally assaulting a woman, on camera?

@danielgraham1082

7 ай бұрын

WHO specifically are you talking about? Because everyone who isn’t in the industry absolutely was not on his side so don’t make this about politics dude 😂

@Max-qt5lb

7 ай бұрын

Ezra has not been cast in any more movies, the latest entries of his two major franchises (Flash and Fantastic Beasts) were absolute box office disasters (the people have spoken), every single bad thing he did was reported by the news, and his name is now synonymous with choking women. How is this NOT being cancelled, exactly? Ezra miller is not and never has been an A-list actor- what were you expecting, Kevin Spacey / Johnny Depp levels of press coverage? He’s not famous or well-liked enough, and never was

@murrayroodbaard207

7 ай бұрын

@@danielgraham1082 Go away.

@murrayroodbaard207

7 ай бұрын

@@Max-qt5lb How many woketards have you seen demanding he be fired? How many woketards have you seen call him a scumbag? How many outlets or platforms have you seen censor or banish him, like they have done so openly, NOW, with Russell Brand? "Reporting" on something is not "cancelling" someone. Not giving someone part by itself is not "cancelling" someone (like you said, he's not A-list anyway). Plenty of actors are not getting a lot of parts despite not being "cancelled." The only ones openly condemning him have been, for the most part, people on the right. The woketard left has been more brutal to Gina Carano (do you think SHE is an a-lister?) over some pronouns than they been close to being with Ezra Miller over legit assault. P.S. it's just been about a year or so and there's a strike. Not exactly "proof" that he's not getting any more work.

This video really pissed off the Snyder fans. They still refuse to accept that Snyder sucks at making movies. 💀

@denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386

7 ай бұрын

ok then why blame him for movies that other people are making? its not his fault everything post shazam 1 starting failing esp when he had already started working at Netflix

@maaadcity781

7 ай бұрын

@@denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386 he has half the blame .he ruined all the A listers

@vb2806

7 ай бұрын

​@@denenterpriesesorwhatsleft6386He ruined Superman and that is entirely on him. Make batman gritty no problem but Superman should be a positive movie. Dwelve more into his humanity. More into the boy who grew up on a farm without trauma. More into the smartass reporter who gets the better of Lois and sometimes Lois gets the better of him. Also, hire a better Lois. Anne Hathaway or even Emma Stone would look far better than who they hired.

well, i don't think it's hero fatigue like you said- but whatever it is the hero fever isn't really over people just want good content, not a single person complains when something like Invincible comes out but if its Marvel or dc it's under a critical lens because they earned themselves that scrutiny with piss poor quality. gotta give it up for marvel for picking quantity over quality after they thought they had the masses hypnotized only to be beaten into a corner by both the writers strike and their own hubris.

@The_Archer-he2ft

7 ай бұрын

Honestly based on how a lot of the marvel projects went since Infinity war, the writer's strike could be a light that saves them from shooting themselves in the foot to make more garbage that fails

Still can't get over The Rock and his BS. The sad thing is if his Pet Project was made in the Tooth Fairy era we might have gotten a better-ish movie. Not necessarily because movies were better back then but this was before the HASHTAG Bring it era. Where The Rock was effectively playing the same dude in every movie i.e. a no nonsense freakishly strong psuedo attractive badass who is always the hero. Like after Scorpion King and DOOM and more so after the eras of The Pacifier and The Tooth Fairy he has made a campaign to scrap any role where he's not painted super charitably or looks like a wimp/not a hero. That's why Black Adam sucks. If he were more of humble person who knew how to take a joke when it came to his career he'd enjoy playing Black Adam...THE VILLIAN but he didn't want to get his butt kicked by Zachery Levi