The Controversy Behind Nike’s Vaporfly Running Shoe, Explained | WSJ

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Nike’s Vaporfly shoes have become a popular choice for both elite and amateur runners.
But the shoes may soon be banned in professional competitions if World Athletics, the world governing body of track and field, decides they offer an unfair advantage.
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  • @JamilKhan-hk1wl
    @JamilKhan-hk1wl4 жыл бұрын

    Its fake. Everyone knows that running in crocs gives you the most advantage

  • @devon6am

    @devon6am

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jamil Khan súper versatile shoe, the cruise mode and the sport mode

  • @sownheard

    @sownheard

    4 жыл бұрын

    Crogtech

  • @timmyfranckson338

    @timmyfranckson338

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am speed

  • @Jack-hm5fl

    @Jack-hm5fl

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bro there’s actually these kids that run a 5k near my area every year in crocs, and one of them is like 12 and can go sub 18 it’s insane

  • @Sce45rays31

    @Sce45rays31

    4 жыл бұрын

    And blisters...

  • @thendomudau8778
    @thendomudau87784 жыл бұрын

    Imagine making a shoe so good it's considered cheating.

  • @anomad6314

    @anomad6314

    4 жыл бұрын

    carbon plate acts like a spring.... so all the records obtained with vapourfly should really be wiped.

  • @thendomudau8778

    @thendomudau8778

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@anomad6314 so is the shoe not good? 😂

  • @iggymiranda1797

    @iggymiranda1797

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@anomad6314 shut up you Adidas shill

  • @GhostSamaritan

    @GhostSamaritan

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@anomad6314 Or maybe other brands should step their game up?

  • @batorsagandszerelem4474

    @batorsagandszerelem4474

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't get the problem. If the vaporfly gives unfair advantage, then make all the runners wear vaporfly, so the playing field is even again. I think a shoe that can actually make you run faster is cool.

  • @nachot6592
    @nachot65923 жыл бұрын

    I disagree with the limitations. EVERY SINGLE running shoe, before and after the vaporflies, from one or two centuries ago, you name it, has been designed to offer an advantage; to improve our running prowess. The vaporflies just happen to be the first to manage to give such a performance boost but they will not be the only ones to achieve it. This is just the beginning.

  • @krazed0451

    @krazed0451

    Жыл бұрын

    They put a literal leaf spring in them...

  • @jasoncox9256

    @jasoncox9256

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Anything beyond bare feet is technically a mechanical advantage. As Nike said, the shoe does not input more energy into the system, it makes more efficient use of existing energy.

  • @livelaughlucass

    @livelaughlucass

    Жыл бұрын

    what leaf spring

  • @StarComet7

    @StarComet7

    Жыл бұрын

    i run at a national level, and if shoes goes to a certain level it will be an equipment sport and just be a money sport.

  • @definitefenrir6598

    @definitefenrir6598

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StarComet7 It already is all about money maybe not to most of the athletes who put in the work but to everyone else sports are nothing but money, It hasn't been about pushing what is humanly possible for long time.

  • @lukedavis5411
    @lukedavis54113 жыл бұрын

    “Why are they illegal?” “You run good in them”

  • @user-oz5xb9ed3w

    @user-oz5xb9ed3w

    3 жыл бұрын

    well, you have to be able to run good in the first place. not like these are gonna make a slow person win

  • @wheninthecourseofhuma

    @wheninthecourseofhuma

    2 жыл бұрын

    You might as well give the runners stilts

  • @KolMan2000
    @KolMan20004 жыл бұрын

    “We want better shoes for running” *Nike makes better shoes for running* “Wait no that’s illegal”

  • @harumurasaki6615

    @harumurasaki6615

    4 жыл бұрын

    exactly. absurd much ain't it? eeesh

  • @neolexiousneolexian6079

    @neolexiousneolexian6079

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got rollerskates- I mean shoes with wheels under them! Run twice as fast!

  • @GratiaCountryman

    @GratiaCountryman

    4 жыл бұрын

    The problem is that you can’t have a situation where some people have the shoes and others don’t. The race is supposed to be about a competition of runners, not shoes.

  • @Albus_Rex

    @Albus_Rex

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GratiaCountryman Buy the shoes then. Simple as.

  • @stephenwgreen78

    @stephenwgreen78

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Albus_Rex or just have Nike provide every runner in the Olympics with free shoes...best advertising ever

  • @steelfist43
    @steelfist434 жыл бұрын

    Nike finally accomplishes their goal of creating the ultimate running shoe Shoe gets banned

  • @daib5364

    @daib5364

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's how you know the shoes good and that's how Nike knows they did a good job

  • @Benardk4

    @Benardk4

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sad, just sad!

  • @Benardk4

    @Benardk4

    4 жыл бұрын

    How about everyone uses the shoe and we see who wins?!

  • @ducanhtran1852

    @ducanhtran1852

    4 жыл бұрын

    Benard Kadima then adidas and other sneakers company will be bankrupted.

  • @Fijilost

    @Fijilost

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nike has gone through this before. It won’t last

  • @tevitateulilo7573
    @tevitateulilo75733 жыл бұрын

    This man really compares wearing Vaporfly’s to doing drugs...

  • @sto-humanfriendly

    @sto-humanfriendly

    2 жыл бұрын

    Doping is not doing drugs sometimes. It can refer to taking out your blood, oxygenating it, then returning it later

  • @kys9611

    @kys9611

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sto-humanfriendly but even with your example you have to agree that it’s still pretty absurd to compare shoes to oxygenating your blood artificially or ‘doping’.

  • @sarahmacleod2008

    @sarahmacleod2008

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kys9611 they say you gain a 4per cent advantage with the vapor fly so why do you still consider that absurd?

  • @peterflex1

    @peterflex1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sto-humanfriendly did you read what youve just wrote? You can compare doing drugs with what youve said. He said its absurd to compare drugs with running shoes

  • @peterflex1

    @peterflex1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sarahmacleod2008 4% of what? You are literally the person who is doing drugs right now

  • @c_harris8714
    @c_harris87143 жыл бұрын

    You can not just ban a running shoe.. you either impose a standard shoe that all runners must wear in professional events or nothing at all. Banning particular running shoes just opens a can of worms and will never set a definitive standard that is consistent for runners to abide by.

  • @sandybakers690

    @sandybakers690

    Жыл бұрын

    Can of words?

  • @dannynysus

    @dannynysus

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sandybakers690 Yeah, can of words. A.k.a., alphabet soup 🍲

  • @humsse-pulmanojohnhumprey4991

    @humsse-pulmanojohnhumprey4991

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely agree with this! fake advertisement

  • @causethatshow

    @causethatshow

    8 ай бұрын

    @@sandybakers690 In other words, fool me once shame on me, eh, fool me twice shame on eh.....you won't be fooling me again. George Bush hahahahahaha.

  • @user-pe3tt7iu7g

    @user-pe3tt7iu7g

    7 ай бұрын

    standard shoe is not it

  • @dosephinedostar3543
    @dosephinedostar35434 жыл бұрын

    “With the Tokyo olympics around the corner this summer” that statement didn’t age well

  • @katekramer7679

    @katekramer7679

    4 жыл бұрын

    😭

  • @dnice4335

    @dnice4335

    4 жыл бұрын

    SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SAD!!!

  • @Ruby-pi4jm

    @Ruby-pi4jm

    4 жыл бұрын

    And this wasn't posted that long ago. Man can things change!

  • @agneevb.8653

    @agneevb.8653

    4 жыл бұрын

    I scrolled for this comment

  • @ZWolferZ

    @ZWolferZ

    4 жыл бұрын

    r/agedlikemilk

  • @Lazuardinho
    @Lazuardinho4 жыл бұрын

    "Running shoes that return more energy than the runner expends" law of thermodynamics left the chat

  • @DarkPa1adin

    @DarkPa1adin

    4 жыл бұрын

    battery powered device has entered the chat.

  • @susanwojci

    @susanwojci

    4 жыл бұрын

    Timestamp?

  • @Quezonol

    @Quezonol

    4 жыл бұрын

    1:52

  • @kritarth

    @kritarth

    4 жыл бұрын

    You do not have enough understanding of mechanical science, in short thru the compressive strength and structure of the sole, additional elastic force can be supplied to runner legs, thats what they mean they that statement

  • @owenkay8908

    @owenkay8908

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ground force

  • @Hexnilium
    @Hexnilium Жыл бұрын

    I recently bought a pair, completely unaware of this controversy. The shoes definitely gave me a huge boost. I could feel the shoes helping me spring forward somehow. It increased my stride length, and made it easier to make each stride. I would estimate that it gave me about a 10% increase in efficiency. It also seemed to help with turns which were a weak point for my running. Turns always slow my pace down, but with these I maintained the faster paces. All in all, I know the shoes helped me go faster and further and with greater ease. The shoes are incredibly light. Even the shoelaces are light and made to stay tied. The engineering and precision to details are incredible. Should they be banned or discouraged? I don't think so. They help, but no different than how a pair of shoes from 1950 might compare to a pair from 2015. They're just more advanced shoe technology. Part of the future, not the past.

  • @user-pe3tt7iu7g

    @user-pe3tt7iu7g

    7 ай бұрын

    I remember I used New Balance 15 years ago and it helped me in Cross Country running or Mercurial Vapor soccer cleats that helped me run faster.

  • @elphive42
    @elphive423 жыл бұрын

    Theoretically, any shoes can affect the way a runner runs - I don’t feel that a significant advancement in shoes should be blocked, as improvements have consistently occurred for the entire history of the sport.

  • @peterflex1

    @peterflex1

    2 жыл бұрын

    This.

  • @user-ti9zc1xv2b

    @user-ti9zc1xv2b

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fine first principle thinking

  • @schumerthd

    @schumerthd

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, not discussed is how each runner technique differs and how Nike's shoe affects their technique. If you watch the runner in the demonstration he does a lot of heel striking and would receive more benefits by using Nike's shoe, whereas a runner who strikes closer to the toes would receive no benefit from using Nike's shoe.

  • @TheLaualamp

    @TheLaualamp

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean if you can put a spring in a running shoe then what if adidas comes out with some cartoon looking springy bois, everyone would agree that it's not okay, this one seems acceptable just because you don't see the spring.

  • @NorrisLikens
    @NorrisLikens4 жыл бұрын

    There hasn't been significant innovation in running shoes in 50 years. Then when the innovation comes you want to ban it?

  • @gamezone4153

    @gamezone4153

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thor Odinson Bruh

  • @theazrael4423

    @theazrael4423

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, of course, it improves the performance of people of African descent and this channel is after all, the wall street journal

  • @zitronentee

    @zitronentee

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Thor Odinson yeah, we should stay with sandals, right?

  • @AeroGold1

    @AeroGold1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same thing happened with the speedo bodysuits in competitive swimming.

  • @andrewbell7579

    @andrewbell7579

    4 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I have against it is, not everyone can be sponsored by Nike and therefore it will cause monetary problems.

  • @MukulVermamukulverma
    @MukulVermamukulverma4 жыл бұрын

    "we don't create any running shoes that return more energy than the runner expends" So... Nike shoes doesn't break the laws of thermodynamics . Good to know .

  • @averagejoe8226

    @averagejoe8226

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mukul Verma Nike is referencing the rules of competitive running set but the global governing body. What they mean is that none of their shoes are designed to propel runners through alternative means e.g. springs or motors

  • @404nobrakes

    @404nobrakes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Average Joe springs do not store or create energy either. They just return the energy that the runner expends. That being said, a) the carbon plate and the foam are effectively springs and b) this rule is not sufficient on its own because it doesn’t ban bicycles or roller skates. We really have to think about what makes running running and how much mechanical assistance we’re willing to accept

  • @averagejoe8226

    @averagejoe8226

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@404nobrakes My opinion is that shoes =/= doping. Runners should be allowed to utilize technology as long as this technology is widely available and does not drastically change the sport or effect integrity

  • @xxcleverxxvhfsaw511

    @xxcleverxxvhfsaw511

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is very true and if the shoe is available to everyone why ban it plus it would make running more competitive

  • @Ozzyisunavailable

    @Ozzyisunavailable

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@404nobrakes if theyre allowed shoes at all then they should be allowed any shoes, however what is considered a shoe should also be more clearly defined

  • @alecj9227
    @alecj92273 жыл бұрын

    If they are gonna try and ban a pair of shoes, they should require that all world records must be attempted completely naked.

  • @ColinRowat0

    @ColinRowat0

    3 жыл бұрын

    didn't the original Olympians compete naked?

  • @zionlee4594

    @zionlee4594

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ColinRowat0 yea, some say that it was done to prevent women from competing

  • @SimonWoodburyForget

    @SimonWoodburyForget

    3 жыл бұрын

    What would be wrong with adding barefoot running into the olympics, if their shoes are found to give them a considerable advantage?

  • @zionlee4594

    @zionlee4594

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SimonWoodburyForget the key here is that athletes wear different sneakers. but we cannot eradicate all types of "inequalities" as it is inherent in some sports. if we made the effort to eradicate such "unfair advantage," we would have to swim indoors one by one, all at the same temperature, etc.

  • @SimonWoodburyForget

    @SimonWoodburyForget

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zionlee4594 I don't care much about _"inequality"_ I simply care about records being set in accordance to what the sport is supposed to be. What would you say if I took a bicycle to running competition? The philosophy of a running competition is clearly for a human to travel unassisted, so if shoes provide assistance, then how is it against that philosophy to not use them?

  • @BlackandChrome
    @BlackandChrome3 жыл бұрын

    "We do not create any running shows that return more energy than the runner expends" Well at least they aren't breaking the laws of physics I guess.

  • @TheAlgerietop

    @TheAlgerietop

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought so aswell, or they're putting engines of some kind in their shoes.

  • @stevethebarbarian9876

    @stevethebarbarian9876

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rather than creating infinite energies, they're referring more to something like putting batteries in your shoes, which then apply some sort of actual force when you're running

  • @nightlight0x07cc

    @nightlight0x07cc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now we need to see the compressed gas nitrous powered showed

  • @amralmatni6586

    @amralmatni6586

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are talking about giving energy from another source like batteries or some chemical reactions maybe 😅

  • @krebgurfson5732

    @krebgurfson5732

    3 жыл бұрын

    not sure if dumb, or making an obvious joke

  • @codycollins6468
    @codycollins64684 жыл бұрын

    Bruh having a shoe is a “unfair” advantage, running shoes are literally designed for performance it just so happens to nikes which is best...... some people prefer the carbon fiber plate in that other pair of shoes

  • @Cortesevasive

    @Cortesevasive

    4 жыл бұрын

    ADIDAS master race

  • @SuperToemoe

    @SuperToemoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    If they’re honestly mad about the advantages shoes give just ban shoes all together and have them wear shirts for sponsorships if you want it to be really fair

  • @spyseefan975

    @spyseefan975

    4 жыл бұрын

    with your logic roller skates would be fine too

  • @shadowbanned-9577

    @shadowbanned-9577

    4 жыл бұрын

    C-.. NO, NOT ADIDAS, We get that moniker...😉

  • @jeanardcontentvillarina1761

    @jeanardcontentvillarina1761

    4 жыл бұрын

    If it's unfair then why not let them run barefooted

  • @phillychilll6308
    @phillychilll63083 жыл бұрын

    You'd think all running shoes were meant to improve running

  • @eddiep5078

    @eddiep5078

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what I was thinking too lol, they need to lay out what the criteria for an "unfair" advantage is, rather than just asserting that this is unfair because of the results

  • @subspacesausage5918

    @subspacesausage5918

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like ”doesn't exert more energy than the runner puts in” is pretty straightforward.

  • @ulvschmidt7174

    @ulvschmidt7174

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@subspacesausage5918 these don't magically add energy it conserves energy making the runner more efficent

  • @herbderbler1585

    @herbderbler1585

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you take away modern shoes and track surfaces, rolling back to the technology used when the first four minute mile was achieved, about 95% of athletes who hold that record would be unable to repeat the feat. Athletic tech inevitably advances alongside material science and it's always so arbitrary how they determine was is and isn't an unfair advantage. Now to be fair, if the whole track is a different surface, that means all the runners are literally on an equal playing field. Shoe technology unfortunately starts moving into a pay-to-play conundrum for each competitor, but one can't bemoan that aspect too much as it exists in literally any sport.

  • @amit9838831064

    @amit9838831064

    3 жыл бұрын

    Adidas ultraboost is best

  • @prazonparajuli7346
    @prazonparajuli73463 жыл бұрын

    How can a “shoe” be considered cheating? Every shoe is supposed to give an advantage to the runner by reducing the stress their body takes. Comparing a pair of shoes with “doping” is not very wise.

  • @reynantoriza6527

    @reynantoriza6527

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bingo

  • @misterjones7929
    @misterjones79293 жыл бұрын

    As a 70 year old with over 40 years of distance running in legs, I find these shoes great for all round training as the combination of cushioning, stability and lightness reduce the chance of injury to my aged muscles and joints. The shoes give a nice feel of energy return to the stride, and if they increase my local parkrun pace to 9.30 min/miles from 10 min/miles, I can't imagine I'll be accused of having an unfair advantage on my feet..... :-)

  • @RagnarNomad

    @RagnarNomad

    Жыл бұрын

    Shaving off 30secs on average run time per km is no joke, grandpa. If it can be such a huge improvement to you then imagine the effect on professional athletes in their prime? The technology itself is not bad, but it's bad that it created imbalance on the playing field, thus action(s) must be done to level the playing field again.

  • @oneeco
    @oneeco4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine stopping innovation because a committee doesn't like better timing. Oh wait.

  • @cg1067

    @cg1067

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lightbulb!

  • @lucifer9033

    @lucifer9033

    4 жыл бұрын

    he cannot run anymore, that's his issue

  • @t_c5266

    @t_c5266

    4 жыл бұрын

    What? Technology can make you go faster!? Time to allow bicycles and cars to improve times!

  • @Mikefeher1313

    @Mikefeher1313

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stopping innovation? They’re just not allowing it in their sporting events ..

  • @nathanthom8176

    @nathanthom8176

    4 жыл бұрын

    Except some countries track teams actually require sponsorships to fund them, so if your countries team isn't sponsored by Nike, you are automatically at a disadvantage. Also athletics are about what the human body can do, not what technology can make them do.

  • @LYJManchesterUnited
    @LYJManchesterUnited4 жыл бұрын

    When companies finally makes a product that does as advertised " We can't allow that."

  • @JohnSmith-cj9cx

    @JohnSmith-cj9cx

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be surprised if Nike's rivals are behind the banning campaign.

  • @robywankenobi32

    @robywankenobi32

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like F1 racing haha

  • @neitherlink6612

    @neitherlink6612

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnSmith-cj9cx since it's expensive innovate, let's ban those who do, so we don't have to.

  • @anomad6314

    @anomad6314

    4 жыл бұрын

    folks can use the shoe... but not for competitions.

  • @georgerosebush9754

    @georgerosebush9754

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@robywankenobi32 I immediately thought of the fan car and how it was instabanned.

  • @chevyon37s
    @chevyon37s3 жыл бұрын

    Just like in auto racing, tire technology improves and the cars get faster and more efficient. Keep these shoes in the sport. The continual breaking of records is fine, and should be used as an example in the advancement in the human race not only how the human race has evolved but also how humans are able to manipulate inanimate object for advancement. To me if they ban a shoe for a running race, they must outlaw all shoes and should require runners to run barefoot if they truly want the most even playing field.

  • @paulpat8845
    @paulpat8845 Жыл бұрын

    I remember my friend introducing me to these shoes, i didn’t believe they would make a difference but my 1.5 mile run shed 1.5 mins. It helped me pass all my PT test. Ive had the same shoes for 5 years, only wear them once a year for my test.

  • @jmcantila9104
    @jmcantila91044 жыл бұрын

    If wearing a specified shoe for running makes the run illegitimate then we should just ignore any record unless it's done naked.

  • @dragonproductions236

    @dragonproductions236

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean by their logic you should also run on just dirt because track also gives you an unnatural advantage.

  • @OakenTome

    @OakenTome

    4 жыл бұрын

    DragonProductions Everyone’s running on the same track, not everyone can obtain these shoes.

  • @all4god650

    @all4god650

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@OakenTome dirt track fields exsist

  • @roberth4395

    @roberth4395

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@OakenTome You are such a close minded person. Why could not they? Holy cow that was dumb. A top tier athlete can go to a store put down the cash and buy a pair of shoes just like a nornal runner. Nobody forces sponsorship on them. If they take the cash for wearing and promoting an inferior product that is their fault.

  • @imagitext1342

    @imagitext1342

    4 жыл бұрын

    Back to the original Olympics!

  • @dchen2140
    @dchen21404 жыл бұрын

    All I learned from this video is that I want the new Nike Vaporflys.

  • @metaphoricdirigible1499

    @metaphoricdirigible1499

    4 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Chen Same. Shameless plug but effective.

  • @sportcoatjoditv7148

    @sportcoatjoditv7148

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly !!!!!!

  • @caffeinator1849

    @caffeinator1849

    4 жыл бұрын

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what I called a successful marketing

  • @davidkonevky7372

    @davidkonevky7372

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @allenscenery

    @allenscenery

    4 жыл бұрын

    Another great commercial by Nikes.

  • @timolsen8601
    @timolsen86012 жыл бұрын

    “Doing something to deliberately gain an unfair advantage” like wearing shoes rather than barefoot? Cool story

  • @kmcd6140
    @kmcd61403 жыл бұрын

    Seems like the Vapor Fly would provide better injury protection, as well, so I am all for finding a way to get these into the sport so that knock-offs can filter down to us plebes.

  • @weimpromptu
    @weimpromptu4 жыл бұрын

    To level the playing field, everyone should wear Crocs.

  • @FarrFromPerfect

    @FarrFromPerfect

    4 жыл бұрын

    Now that's racing!

  • @aeta7978

    @aeta7978

    4 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't be fair, sport mode gives you +100 speed

  • @dunkyt

    @dunkyt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aeta7978 agreed, crocs are overpowered. Nerf it

  • @Zett76

    @Zett76

    4 жыл бұрын

    How about just running barefoot? 🙂

  • @Jorge-125

    @Jorge-125

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget to use the ankle strap

  • @sayakgupta3068
    @sayakgupta30683 жыл бұрын

    Solution: 1. Make people run barefooted. 2. Make every athlete wear Nike vaporfly.

  • @Commentoidiota

    @Commentoidiota

    3 жыл бұрын

    3. Regulate the equipment like every other sport, so companies can still make improvements without taking away the achievements of the athletes

  • @AmanRai-rq3eg

    @AmanRai-rq3eg

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are 2 problems here: 1. Barefooting obviously doesn't work as it would be damaging to the athletes' feet in the long term 2. Athletes are sponsored by exclusive companies like Puma and Adidas, so they can't wear the Vaporfly now even if they want to (otherwise they lose the sponsorship money). If the Vaporfly is made compulsory it effectively puts all companies out of competition, and gives a huge unfair business advantage to Nike. It basically stifles further innovation in running shoe field as there would be no incentive for Nike to improve

  • @kirisei6632

    @kirisei6632

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AmanRai-rq3eg they chose the wrong lousy sponsorship company.😂 Losers are just trash at whatever they are competing. If they are really talented, NIKE will approach them automatically for a sponsorship. So we know the whining people are the real salty LOSER blaming everything and everyone but themselves.

  • @SugarKalamay

    @SugarKalamay

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AmanRai-rq3eg you must be fun at parties mr. explanation

  • @AmanRai-rq3eg

    @AmanRai-rq3eg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SugarKalamay If only we had parties now :P

  • @brycerevo2058
    @brycerevo20582 жыл бұрын

    Eliud kipchoge had alphaflys on , and I don’t get how it’s an advantage if it’s available to everyone

  • @notgray88

    @notgray88

    2 жыл бұрын

    But it isn't available to everyone. The shoe costs well over $200. Not everyone can justify spending that much on a pair of shoes.

  • @christopheradami-sampson2781

    @christopheradami-sampson2781

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notgray88 If long distance running is your profession then it doesn't matter the cost to you, you will pay for the advantage, if you run for fun why do you care about that extra 4% just have fun.

  • @stevenshorten6184
    @stevenshorten61843 жыл бұрын

    The plate just keeps the foam from collapsing on the forefoot. It would be a very uncomfortable ride if it weren't there. It isn't a spring - it's a support piece. The foam is what is incredible on the shoe. The current design of the shoe is probably not doing you any favors biomechanically speaking. It's a cast on your foot that isn't allowing your foot to flex naturally. Expect some injuries.

  • @RagnarNomad

    @RagnarNomad

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah, that plate can flex and return to its original shape: that is the definition of a spring. A spring does not always have to be a coil.

  • @stevenshorten6184

    @stevenshorten6184

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RagnarNomad Right, it's a compliant mechanism. But its flex is secondary to its stiffness. The shoe is shaped to roll - not flex. It does flex a bit like you said. But supercritical foams delaminate and behave poorly because of their inelastic nature and suspect bonding properties on textiles that are not also TPU-based.

  • @RagnarNomad

    @RagnarNomad

    Жыл бұрын

    I got your point: the plate acts like a support to stabilize the athlete feet because of all that thick foam underneath. But this made me think a bit more: the plate by itself is not thing much, only by combining with that thick foam that they together create a "spring" and that "spring" aids the wearer of the shoes. One example is the leaf spring in truck, the leaves have different length thus having different elasticity but they work together to create a more comfortable ride on the truck. TLDR: the plate by itself does little but with glue and foam, they together work wonder, don't you agree?

  • @stevenshorten6184

    @stevenshorten6184

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RagnarNomad exactly right. The system they created with that combination of materials combined with precise geometry (shape) revolutionized the category.

  • @aurtisanminer2827
    @aurtisanminer28274 жыл бұрын

    Shoes that’ll help protect runners from the continuous pounding motion that wears out their joints? Cant have that!

  • @andre9095

    @andre9095

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aurtisan Miner it’s not SPORTS unless you’re getting HURT, unless it’s “doping” then you’re getting TOO hurt. Just watch football and don’t think about head trauma

  • @bethanygarcia3437

    @bethanygarcia3437

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Batz there’s a huge difference between feeling pain on a run/during a workout and getting an injury

  • @yeapthatsme2982

    @yeapthatsme2982

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@andre9095 if u want pain...why even run with shoes...run naked...more pain...more game spirit ! We live in age where advance technology is called cheating...

  • @roberth4395

    @roberth4395

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@yeapthatsme2982 People who think like you truly dustgust me. I only use sticks and stones as tools. Also, I only wear animal skin and eat raw meat.

  • @yeapthatsme2982

    @yeapthatsme2982

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@roberth4395 yep...boomers will NVR let the world change....

  • @itsv1p3r
    @itsv1p3r4 жыл бұрын

    *man invents the first shoe* runners: this destroys the sport of running, running should only be done barefoot so it's an even playing field.

  • @maxwellmorrison1911

    @maxwellmorrison1911

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly just the shoe of the sport evolving

  • @lokksiders__2151

    @lokksiders__2151

    4 жыл бұрын

    You have different foot compared to mine. It's unfair.

  • @itsv1p3r

    @itsv1p3r

    4 жыл бұрын

    LokKsiders__ you're simply a better athlete than me... UNFAIR

  • @gracefool

    @gracefool

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, this *was* the agreed upon position of the ancient Olympics. Barefoot is pure.

  • @NPCSN

    @NPCSN

    4 жыл бұрын

    According to that guy... anything you do that will give you an advantage is cheating... Guess I shouldn’t go to the gym to get a conditioning and strength advantage... 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @freya1348
    @freya13483 жыл бұрын

    It seems to me like the vaporflys would reduce the impact and injury lots of running has on your body so I think thats a good thing

  • @amandasmith7828
    @amandasmith78282 жыл бұрын

    If this was an issue of a private company having a proprietary shoe that only certain athletes have access to, then I could see the issue. However these are sold commercially, so I'm not understanding the controversy. Shoe technology will continue to change shoe design (lighter, better energy return), and as long as all runners have equal access to these shoes, then it's a non-issue.

  • @B00merBob

    @B00merBob

    Жыл бұрын

    Too bad for those sponsored by other shoe companies.

  • @charlesheld3082
    @charlesheld30824 жыл бұрын

    "The need for a level playing field is exemplified." Then have them run barefoot.

  • @joshmedici

    @joshmedici

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or make them all wear Vaporfly's.

  • @neophobia404

    @neophobia404

    4 жыл бұрын

    but what if someone "injures" themselves and gets surgery on their feet that makes them more aerodynamic :^)

  • @topethermohenes7658

    @topethermohenes7658

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have them all have the same coach, the same food, the same training 😂

  • @INikeAir

    @INikeAir

    4 жыл бұрын

    You, my friend, are on to something

  • @awseko4732

    @awseko4732

    4 жыл бұрын

    There will always be a ‘best’ shoe. Why does it matter? Its just that this shoe is easily noticeable

  • @Miss_Annlaug
    @Miss_Annlaug4 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry: but is a shoe is classified as "doping" then so is healthy diet and training. I mean honestly. This is rediculous

  • @sashaevin

    @sashaevin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ridiculous*

  • @topethermohenes7658

    @topethermohenes7658

    4 жыл бұрын

    If they want pure person to person competition they should all receive the same training, the same food, the same coach, it's rediculous alright

  • @DrJRMCFC

    @DrJRMCFC

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not it’s not.

  • @geyotepilkington2892

    @geyotepilkington2892

    4 жыл бұрын

    no, its purpleous

  • @Kriophoros

    @Kriophoros

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, doping has been accessible to top level for a long time. If it aint broke, dont fix it /s

  • @FaithisKey792
    @FaithisKey7922 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, thank you.

  • @DeBenedettiD
    @DeBenedettiD Жыл бұрын

    They left out the most important part. The VaporFlys carbon fiber plate within the midsole takes the shape of a rigid arc. When flattened in stride the plate wants to return to its original arc shape, that’s where the assistance(spring) is coming from.

  • @knptennis7379
    @knptennis73794 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the longest Nike ads I have ever seen.

  • @theseeker1694

    @theseeker1694

    4 жыл бұрын

    KNP TENNIS exactly 😂

  • @realthoc

    @realthoc

    4 жыл бұрын

    all these "journalistic" documentary styled reports are just ads for nerds.

  • @AlbertoMazarro

    @AlbertoMazarro

    4 жыл бұрын

    agree

  • @lucascarman2578

    @lucascarman2578

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what I said. I bet Nike paid this journalist or the Wall Street Journal to make this piece

  • @LordVodka313

    @LordVodka313

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. I'm not into running shoes and I'm sold on this.

  • @jonm3024
    @jonm30243 жыл бұрын

    Using this logic, i guess the only "fair" way to compete would be barefoot and naked?

  • @allisontallantmcculley1047

    @allisontallantmcculley1047

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like the Greeks did it back in the ancient olympics

  • @warlordnipple

    @warlordnipple

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kalecardenas9645 Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue. www.ancient.eu/article/20/ancient-greek-clothing/#:~:text=The%20Greeks%20were%20not%20particularly,barefoot%20for%20his%20entire%20life. Greeks rarely wore shoes. If they did it was sandals or boots, which usually don't count as shoes.

  • @simoncarrington166

    @simoncarrington166

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't remember seeing any depictions of ancient Greeks wearing shoes... And I doubt they ran in sandals

  • @blairbuskirk5460

    @blairbuskirk5460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kalecardenas9645 while the ancient Greeks did have clothing and sandals they weren't used in Olympic competition. Kind of like we have semiautomatic rifles but don't use them for biathlon competition.

  • @kalecardenas9645

    @kalecardenas9645

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@warlordnipple they never had “shoes” but they did where foot wear

  • @joehill4094
    @joehill40943 жыл бұрын

    The ads are evolving

  • @mattcreighton2352

    @mattcreighton2352

    Ай бұрын

    innit

  • @itsacorporatething
    @itsacorporatething28 күн бұрын

    Every shoe gives some advantage, otherwise people would run barefoot. It's arbitrary what you define as an unfair advantage.

  • @craftytrouble
    @craftytrouble4 жыл бұрын

    They’re just shoes man it’s not a drug, it’s like banning leggings because they run better than pants

  • @jthepickle7

    @jthepickle7

    4 жыл бұрын

    BAN LEGGING! oh oh time to stop commenting

  • @merivesi7021

    @merivesi7021

    4 жыл бұрын

    But by that logic people could be running with springs strapped to their feet, even though that's not really fair either.

  • @hanphilnoffz8827

    @hanphilnoffz8827

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or tight short short

  • @NeoRimeOnline

    @NeoRimeOnline

    4 жыл бұрын

    Leggings are banned in swimming.

  • @king_has_no_clothskul8635

    @king_has_no_clothskul8635

    4 жыл бұрын

    wrong. it gives unfair advantage. how do you expect ugandans,somalians and kenyians to shelve 400 dollars for the shoes? unless companies can sponsor not even govt can get the shoes. well, they dont rely on shoes. they beat all the mofos with bare-foot. marathons are run on man made asphalt, that is why you need some sort of quality shoes but not 400 or 250 plus dollar shoes. come on now!

  • @ethanluong3549
    @ethanluong35494 жыл бұрын

    Nike: Innovates and breaks a barrier in running thought to be near impossible Committee: BANNED Nike: WHY Committee: The design threatens the integrity of the sport and is basically cheating Nike: We used a thin carbon fibre plate not a jet engine

  • @question_mark_1971

    @question_mark_1971

    4 жыл бұрын

    They might as well make them run with just socks on or even barefoot

  • @inasaldinuguan785

    @inasaldinuguan785

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sprinter's have spikes on their shoes but no one complained🤔

  • @inasaldinuguan785

    @inasaldinuguan785

    4 жыл бұрын

    In the video it said that "These shoes give runners an unfair advantage" well spike shoes give sprinters an advantage and now everyone uses them in track

  • @MiniNinja258

    @MiniNinja258

    4 жыл бұрын

    You Don't know me so everyone should use vaporflys lol

  • @j.s.3414

    @j.s.3414

    4 жыл бұрын

    They didn't innovate anything...this entire design has been made for years by other companies. Placing a shank, and the sole design are in quite a few ultra marathon shoes.

  • @kitlorenz6973
    @kitlorenz69732 жыл бұрын

    I always have problems/pains with the muscles in my feet/legs from running/workouts using fake shoes. I wonder how it feels wearing original shoes much more this performance enhancing shoes.

  • @willemm
    @willemm3 жыл бұрын

    I use them as well, and not to improve my amazingly slow times, but because I think it's better for my knees, which were always hurting after a run in other shoes.

  • @misterjones7929

    @misterjones7929

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree - see my comment above. These shoes may take a few crucial seconds off the times of world class runners, but they also have the capability of reducing the chance of injury in ageing slow joggers like myself. Worth paying the premium price for in my opinion.

  • @kholilialif5515
    @kholilialif55154 жыл бұрын

    Item: Vaporfly (Legendary) Type: Shoes Attribute: +4% speed

  • @ProjectPsyche

    @ProjectPsyche

    4 жыл бұрын

    That stats is quite low for a legendary item dont you think

  • @Theaverageazn247

    @Theaverageazn247

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ProjectPsyche devs are planning on removing it next patch. too OP

  • @dustinropp

    @dustinropp

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ProjectPsyche not if all other shoes have lower stats

  • @adrianblood652

    @adrianblood652

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or they'll put out a f2p version and nerf it next season.....

  • @aqwalth1172

    @aqwalth1172

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dev will nerf this shoes in the next update

  • @MrDlt123
    @MrDlt1233 жыл бұрын

    While wearing my vaporflys, I watched this 8 minute video in 6 minutes.

  • @rajkumarsinghrathore2659

    @rajkumarsinghrathore2659

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wrong it would be around 7.68 min coz.. vaporflys reduces only 4 percent of time Lol!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @JoeShopper

    @JoeShopper

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was only wearing one Vaporfly and one Danish Clog. I broke an ankle. You'll never guess which one.

  • @zafrylaiman8695

    @zafrylaiman8695

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JoeShopper i will never know because you didn't specify you wore which shoe on which foot

  • @JoeShopper

    @JoeShopper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zafrylaiman8695 Here's the thing, I was wearing them on my hands.

  • @rubenmontano5589

    @rubenmontano5589

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JoeShopper hahahahahahahahahaha

  • @brid5970
    @brid59703 жыл бұрын

    This is the same argument from the 2000 Sydney Olympics. Australian swimmers banned from bodysuit swimwear and the controversy of track runner Cathy Freeman’s running suit. It’s upgrades to materials and design and should be up to each team to innovate for themselves.

  • @samw6457
    @samw6457 Жыл бұрын

    Feels like pure Nike marketing. Sponsor the best runners that would’ve won anyway and then blame the shoes and create controversy around how good they are by partnering with media like wsj. I just want these shoes more than ever now.

  • @s.2314
    @s.23144 жыл бұрын

    Give everyone vapor flys so everyone has the same "advantage". solved case

  • @santoshmoopanar6584

    @santoshmoopanar6584

    4 жыл бұрын

    Athletes are sponsored by different companies they... Just can't wear any shoes

  • @rowanfitzgerald3250

    @rowanfitzgerald3250

    4 жыл бұрын

    The thing not mentioned in this video is that they cost 250$ and not everyone can afford this :)

  • @worldwidewarriors8568

    @worldwidewarriors8568

    4 жыл бұрын

    yes because $250 is not affordable for elite athletes that compete for money

  • @madil2259

    @madil2259

    4 жыл бұрын

    Give? You mean give away new shoes for free?

  • @riripari2042

    @riripari2042

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rowanfitzgerald3250 Exactly. I looked them up immediately. Thought I'd try and buy a pair to help me on my next pt test. Not trying to break any records, just want an easier time while doing a 2 mile run.

  • @LOZ8619
    @LOZ86194 жыл бұрын

    if they ban them I already see the new slogan: "illegally fast"

  • @Moocow2003

    @Moocow2003

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is GREAT advertising for the shoes 😂

  • @yousefabdelmonem3788

    @yousefabdelmonem3788

    4 жыл бұрын

    Watch cause your slogan might get stolen Illegally

  • @gulaugurgunnarsson6268

    @gulaugurgunnarsson6268

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Random Autonomous Drone Pilot yes you can? Nike already has a patent on the "just do it" phrase

  • @Stopdahate994

    @Stopdahate994

    4 жыл бұрын

    Random Autonomous Drone Pilot trade marking a phrase is a thing, look it up

  • @zacker150

    @zacker150

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Stopdahate994 that was literally his entire point "it's called trademark not patent"

  • @rokdvornik5130
    @rokdvornik5130 Жыл бұрын

    A very well done and informative video about sneaker culture in sports

  • @debanandapradhan7777
    @debanandapradhan77772 ай бұрын

    Thank you . Your conversation 😊

  • @normanpoole213
    @normanpoole2134 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think we should ban them it’s like saying no to innovation

  • @stevenr3544

    @stevenr3544

    4 жыл бұрын

    putting some carbon fibre into a shoe omG thAt Is So INnoVaTiVe

  • @manuelramos5701

    @manuelramos5701

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenr3544 then why didn't you do it 10 years ago and beat nike to the punch?

  • @DrJRMCFC

    @DrJRMCFC

    4 жыл бұрын

    fine, but the world records can’t stand otherwise just let non Nike athletes blood dope

  • @doormantdarner7815

    @doormantdarner7815

    4 жыл бұрын

    J R Just let adidas make as good a copy as they can of these shoes and then everyone is equal. Running shoes have innovated so much in the last 80 years. It’s a question of natural selection, adapt or die.

  • @ericramos1916

    @ericramos1916

    4 жыл бұрын

    We should ban them. Running should be what the human can do. We can maximize training, get lightweight gear and get ultra flat ground to run on, but that is just restricting the human body as little as possible. These shoes add on to what a person can do, they go past the human body instead of getting as close as possible to just a person

  • @helpme4330
    @helpme43304 жыл бұрын

    This is like a teacher finding mistakes in your exam when you got a perfect score.

  • @w1z4rd9

    @w1z4rd9

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lezz zz lol

  • @ashishsaimon6511

    @ashishsaimon6511

    4 жыл бұрын

    By cheating

  • @Jamac007

    @Jamac007

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ashishsaimon6511 cheating and innovation are 2 deferent things

  • @88thBusStop

    @88thBusStop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jamac007 wearing any type of shoes by definition is cheating. Nature hardened your heals by design. All shoes should be banned.

  • @starrysock

    @starrysock

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Jamac007 bringing a calculator to the math test isn't "innovation" A math test is about your ability to do math, a marathon is about human endurance. Making it more than that turns it into a contest of how much we can artificially boost someone's skill, not who has the most skill.

  • @danielyadgarov2344
    @danielyadgarov23443 жыл бұрын

    This seems a lot like the lzr racer from swimming (swimmer here) in that case all full body suits were banned for men allowing only jammers but material had no limits. So maybe in running you could make a general fit and layout of the shoe that all companies must ablige by but make materials a choice.

  • @locketpop3851
    @locketpop38513 жыл бұрын

    After this video...IM DEFINITELY GONNA BUY THEM Nike needs to thank you for the free advertisement

  • @lesmalan
    @lesmalan4 жыл бұрын

    "At Nike, we do not intend to build a shoe that return more energy than the runner expends. We have a strict policy to follow the laws of thermodynamics at Nike."

  • @DidAYoutubeBlackhole

    @DidAYoutubeBlackhole

    4 жыл бұрын

    hahaha I was thinking exactly this, then was like unless they stuck some rockets on there or some sort of battery powered bounce haha

  • @sebastiangorka200

    @sebastiangorka200

    4 жыл бұрын

    "We at Nike can say with 100% certainty that this shoe does not contain or came into any contact with the substance known as flubber."

  • @pfendi

    @pfendi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sebastian Gorka oh hey! A reference I get! Lol

  • @xavariusquest4603

    @xavariusquest4603

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if anyone would catch that little gem. Though, they are being more than disingenuous because, based upon the structure shown, rather than protecting the foot and providing good contact with the road surface, this shoe reduces the energy required to accomplish motion...the shape and orientation of that carbon fiber plate isnt random. The effect of a faster time is created by the reduction in net energy required...you have more gas in the tank in the end. They have manufactured a shoe that no one else would because everyone else would correctly assume it could be banned. Personally, given Nikes business practices over the last 5 years...I suspect they hope it is banned for competitors because general consumer sales will explode.

  • @PolKsio

    @PolKsio

    4 жыл бұрын

    hahah that's too funny, bet that was written by engineers having a big laugh

  • @RealestKraken56
    @RealestKraken563 жыл бұрын

    "The Tokyo olympics around the corner this summer" Uh oh he didn’t know

  • @elslord16

    @elslord16

    3 жыл бұрын

    at least it around this year summer

  • @DankMemes-gm1th

    @DankMemes-gm1th

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elslord16 Not trying to depress you but IDK about that one chief...

  • @Dave_the_Dave

    @Dave_the_Dave

    3 жыл бұрын

    Big corner

  • @willreilly7120

    @willreilly7120

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@venkateshsrinivasan8457 how

  • @reubencass187

    @reubencass187

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@willreilly7120 the algorithm specifically requested it

  • @johnhull2582
    @johnhull2582 Жыл бұрын

    Having flatfeet, I have asked more than one podiatrist if it was possible to get a carbon fiber or spring steel plate arch support that went the entire length of the foot. I see someone listened.

  • @cpfarms8994
    @cpfarms89943 жыл бұрын

    Love kids making my shoes! Their little fingers stitch perfectly!!

  • @shubham4845

    @shubham4845

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂 😂 😂 😂 Underrated comment

  • @lindastonebraker2512
    @lindastonebraker25124 жыл бұрын

    The fact that they’re actually relieving physical stress on the body is reason enough to use them!

  • @TatharNuar

    @TatharNuar

    4 жыл бұрын

    Reason enough to ban everything else.

  • @illegallemur4024

    @illegallemur4024

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have terrible knees so I’m game for those bad boys

  • @Leksuttaja149

    @Leksuttaja149

    4 жыл бұрын

    lets introduce bionic suits to weightlifting since it relieve stress on the muscles!!

  • @mihnealazar7039

    @mihnealazar7039

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cool but not all can afford these shoes. Let’s offer them for free to every team from every country and then make them legal at marathons!

  • @simplyruben3184

    @simplyruben3184

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mihnealazar7039 oh ok. so you say professional athletes that run at Olympics can't afford a $150 pair of shoes while they make huge salary's? yeah sure. 😂

  • @SUPPORTYOURSELF
    @SUPPORTYOURSELF4 жыл бұрын

    This is the longest Nike ad I've ever seen.

  • @ferretworld4031

    @ferretworld4031

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are literally talking about the DISADVANTAGES of the shoes. Did you even watch the video?

  • @turborooster8548

    @turborooster8548

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ferretworld4031 No, they are saying the shoe is so good that people want to buy it. Are you stupid?

  • @ferretworld4031

    @ferretworld4031

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@turborooster8548 yeah they "want to bad it", are YOU stupid?

  • @turborooster8548

    @turborooster8548

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ferretworld4031 When in the video did they ever say they "want to bad it"?

  • @ferretworld4031

    @ferretworld4031

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@turborooster8548 No, that's what YOU said in your first comment! Might wanna go check that buddy.

  • @alejandroo.m.9700
    @alejandroo.m.97002 жыл бұрын

    As someone that actually does track and field i can say that it's a fair advantage, because at the ends of the day you're the one wearing them, it's not like wearing them will magically turn you into an olympic gold medallist

  • @somethingstupid3253
    @somethingstupid32532 жыл бұрын

    3:14 His argument here is similar to from my understanding if I pulled up to a cross country meet wearing spikes where everyone else is wearing shoes, by his argument my spikes should not be allowed because they give me an advantage, but spikes aren’t banned from xc because some runners still wear shoes.

  • @BladeMasterz916
    @BladeMasterz9164 жыл бұрын

    Nobody has an advantage, because everybody is wearing them.

  • @anonymous1burger

    @anonymous1burger

    4 жыл бұрын

    Capitalism: do things for utility's sake and natural competition will regulate it. Athletics: artificially create competition so that un-useful things can be retained.

  • @swng314

    @swng314

    4 жыл бұрын

    Swimming becoming finswimming because everyone starts using flippers

  • @cyjan3k823

    @cyjan3k823

    4 жыл бұрын

    People who are sponsored by adidas Just cant

  • @BladeMasterz916

    @BladeMasterz916

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cyjan3k823 sucks for them lol

  • @douglei897

    @douglei897

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@swng314 . flippers slows you down when you do the kick turns and that's why nobody uses them.

  • @simonmcneilly55
    @simonmcneilly553 жыл бұрын

    “ doesn’t return more energy than the runner expends “. Well thanks for not breaking the laws of physics at least.

  • @gangisspawn1

    @gangisspawn1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol I thought the same thing.

  • @buckiesmalls

    @buckiesmalls

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right.. By the logic one could jump to the moon after several hops..

  • @AR-no5ud

    @AR-no5ud

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bet some materials scientist got a kick out of writing that to their boss.

  • @elliotdeclet594

    @elliotdeclet594

    3 жыл бұрын

    its totally possible for a shoe to return more energy than expended using modern technology, the whole point of the statement is that they arent doing anything like that

  • @alicangul2603

    @alicangul2603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@elliotdeclet594 How would that work? Stationary asphalt doesn't generate energy. Where would the energy come from?

  • @loulew07
    @loulew072 жыл бұрын

    Much like when I started triathlons back in 1985 , using a road bike , by 1987 Boone Lennon came out with the DH Handlbars and it changed the sport on the bike. By 1989 Greg Lemond used a better version them in the Tour De France. Bottom line its not how much $ you spend on the bike, its how much time . So with any piece of equipment we still have to train .

  • @Friendly_G
    @Friendly_G11 күн бұрын

    At this point lets just all agree to go barefoot if were going to ban shoes meant for running

  • @kenanbegic5862
    @kenanbegic58624 жыл бұрын

    When you're so good they call you a cheater. Adorable.

  • @user-gl1ny5hz8y

    @user-gl1ny5hz8y

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alborn Messchussets fr

  • @genki2705

    @genki2705

    4 жыл бұрын

    you didn't watch the video.

  • @kenanbegic5862

    @kenanbegic5862

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@genki2705 but............ I did

  • @tmuto5119

    @tmuto5119

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kenanbegic5862 bc its not the person thats good. Obvs they are but the shoes give them a big advantage

  • @kenanbegic5862

    @kenanbegic5862

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tmuto5119 But... if you were to run in normal street shoes vs. any running shoe, the running shoe has an advantage. At the end the runner literally said it's nicer to run in Nike ones because they're comfier, so they should be banned?

  • @patreekotime4578
    @patreekotime45784 жыл бұрын

    Why is the only solution of a "level playing field" to ban the superior shoes instead of mandate them? Especially if the design provides more comfort and reduces chance of injury?

  • @starlight5123

    @starlight5123

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly its dumb

  • @92ireland92

    @92ireland92

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dont even need to mandate them. Just make it an option available to all competitors

  • @LuLu-lh1hz

    @LuLu-lh1hz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ireland exactly!

  • @kikalcala

    @kikalcala

    4 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts during the whole video.

  • @jacobschmidt1631

    @jacobschmidt1631

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because some competitors can not afford some shoes if they are made very expensive. If Nike made a cheaper version, it wouldn’t be an issue

  • @andrewharting9183
    @andrewharting9183Ай бұрын

    Using this logic, one could reason that any shoe gives a competitive advantage to a runner. This means that multiple times throughout the course of history, runners have gotten exponentially faster because of shoe technology. You can't punish Nike for making a bigger leap forward than anyone else has. They've just progressed the sport faster. If you want it to be pure and original, don't let people wear shoes at all. Don't punish the ones who make good shoes

  • @LukeKwan78
    @LukeKwan782 жыл бұрын

    I am a UPS driver and I walk somewhere between 20 to 33,000 steps a day. 40-65 miles a week. I have spent so much money on vaporflys bc my feet never hurt anymore since using them exclusively

  • @definitelynotcole
    @definitelynotcole3 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be surprised that this whole "controversy" was manufactured by Nike's marketing team.

  • @raptorduck8785

    @raptorduck8785

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is not the first time something like this happens. The Olympics Comite is stupid.

  • @hebson21

    @hebson21

    3 жыл бұрын

    Remember, its all about the equipment, not the athlete. Goes the same for golf, cycling, and any other premium sport...

  • @seanwool

    @seanwool

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're catching on.

  • @remipepelko9201

    @remipepelko9201

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hebson21 cycling is pretty even, at least in grand tours and other uci regulated races, mostly because of weight limits and lack of aero advancement significant within uci limits.

  • @AnnSisuLiv

    @AnnSisuLiv

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bingo

  • @inoita11
    @inoita114 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna run the Boston Marathon in steel toe boots, anyone that wears anything better than those I will consider cheaters.

  • @user-ii3kn8zz1k

    @user-ii3kn8zz1k

    4 жыл бұрын

    you nailed it, it doesn't really make sence. Shoes are always getting better

  • @gabrielduarte3904

    @gabrielduarte3904

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@user-ii3kn8zz1k yes, but no.. because he would be putting himself willingly in disadvantage

  • @necromancerbb

    @necromancerbb

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gabrielduarte3904 the point stands then... anyone NOT using the vapourfly's would be putting themselves at a distinct disadvantage. Precisely as inoita11 said.

  • @pottasium7117

    @pottasium7117

    4 жыл бұрын

    nobody: caveman boomer be like: "you use shoe, i barefoot. You CHEAT!!"

  • @SpiderDibs

    @SpiderDibs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Solution! It's required for _everyone_ to wear them! Boom chakalaka

  • @richardgentry5589
    @richardgentry55892 жыл бұрын

    We basically just watched a 8min Nike ad.

  • @jerrysmith5782
    @jerrysmith57823 жыл бұрын

    Nike: "...we do not create any running shoes that return more energy than the runner expends". If that's Nike's standard, then they shouldn't object to competing against my shoes...which have an uncanny resemblance to a bicycle.

  • @Alertacobra12
    @Alertacobra124 жыл бұрын

    "Shoes so good they're banned in competitive running" - Nike 2020

  • @johncapodilupo6876

    @johncapodilupo6876

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alertacobra 12 copied

  • @neixen-

    @neixen-

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they need to be banned because they are good for the athletes that are sponsored by Nike, but what about the athletes that aren't sponsored by Nike???? To everyone saying that this is "stupid", I really wanna hear your super effective ideas to solve the problem.

  • @RMBII91

    @RMBII91

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Comments so good I copy them from other people for likes" - Alertacobra 12

  • @RoyontheHill

    @RoyontheHill

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@neixen- other companys make there own sci fi shoes so there athletes have a better chance

  • @thiyagarajans9014

    @thiyagarajans9014

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@neixen- do u watch F1. Do all teams have same engine manufacturers. Let's c Mercedes keeps on winning ban them. It's upto ferrari or the competitors to bring something unique on their own. Or take cricket do all batsman have bats made of similar material

  • @onidevogel6597
    @onidevogel65974 жыл бұрын

    Imagine designing such a good shoe they say it's cheating

  • @KongsiILmu-dh5yj

    @KongsiILmu-dh5yj

    4 жыл бұрын

    God be like; *W H Y*

  • @DeluxxMuin

    @DeluxxMuin

    4 жыл бұрын

    The same thing happened to the vehicle: Dodge Demon. It was so fast that it was banned in most drag strips and tracks, but it's also a production car you can get right off the lot

  • @DeluxxMuin

    @DeluxxMuin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GigglyDucky thanks for the info!! I only vaguely remembered the video

  • @ahastar1141

    @ahastar1141

    4 жыл бұрын

    The single best marketing ever

  • @inscrutablemungus4143
    @inscrutablemungus4143Ай бұрын

    2:28 We don't want to normalize doping because it's terrible for the athlete. Going on steroids, for instance, comes with all sorts of side effects. If we had a substance that increased strength/muscle gain and was completely safe, every sporting body would allow it. Spolier alert: It exists and is called creatine. The vaporfly is just a really good running shoe. It doesn't hurt the athlete (AFAIK). There may be an argument that these shoes are expensive and so may price a runner out of the sport, but the comparison to doping is just dumb.

  • @ragetobe
    @ragetobe2 жыл бұрын

    Strictly from an average runner who covers 5k runs at 4am before work everyday I can say the vapourfly and tempo next % are the best trainers I’ve ever worn, they make me feel safe from injury and confident in pushing myself. I don’t race anyone but myself and it won’t affect me if they get banned but I guess it will mean Nike don’t make trainers like them anymore which would be upsetting as I felt like I finally found the perfect trainers.

  • @rydohg
    @rydohg4 жыл бұрын

    This is the greatest Nike ad I've seen. Running shoes so good they might get banned? Deal me in

  • @Turbo329

    @Turbo329

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup, gonna order mine. Lol. I have plantar fasciitis so this is an incredible breakthrough for us flat-footers. hahahahahahhaha

  • @SmallHalfBeard

    @SmallHalfBeard

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nike has been doing stuff like this for years. Same thing with the "Banned" Air Jordan 1 and Airship

  • @willyjaybobindy3402

    @willyjaybobindy3402

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly how Jordans became known, right? MJ wasn’t supposed to wear them due to a ban and did anyway...boom. A legendary shoe is born.

  • @rubeluddin87

    @rubeluddin87

    4 жыл бұрын

    I already own 2 pairs will order another next month. A bit expensive tho at £250 a pop but it’s worth it

  • @jordachejordan90

    @jordachejordan90

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ur right. When something is banned it adds more to the shoe's prestige. Nike is still making money off the Air Jordan 1 being 'banned.'

  • @ludo3375
    @ludo33753 жыл бұрын

    Engineering a shoe so well that wearing it is considered cheating. Incredible. That's an amazing feat

  • @footyhub3259

    @footyhub3259

    3 жыл бұрын

    Props to Nike.

  • @willhooke

    @willhooke

    3 жыл бұрын

    *amazing feet

  • @hanklesacks

    @hanklesacks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great ad as well

  • @BrielleHater1224

    @BrielleHater1224

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Eduardo Babyhands I would say that that is the case but so much data says differently. Like the general increase in fast times from these hyper shoes, and the VO2 max testing done on individual athletes in and out of the vapormax.

  • @sneerbums2528

    @sneerbums2528

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nike Stonks 📈📈

  • @gravyboat2370
    @gravyboat23703 жыл бұрын

    Well made video 👍

  • @jimmybobbyjoe
    @jimmybobbyjoe Жыл бұрын

    This opens the discussion that's been hushed for centuries in running: What is the limit? What is the limit of what is and is not considered cheating? If the vaporfly is cheating, what's to say that wearing any shoe isn't cheating, if someone is running barefoot? If I have any opinion it's that the only solution is to have a standardized shoe to measure the true running capability of the runner- not their shoes.

  • @samiammunoz6854
    @samiammunoz68544 жыл бұрын

    changing the physiology of your body and wearing very well designed shoes are completely different things

  • @saroche

    @saroche

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you’re cheating in both though.

  • @Drae2g2

    @Drae2g2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cheating like taking steroids to make you stronger and faster. It's just a freaking innovative shoe!!

  • @taekwondotime

    @taekwondotime

    4 жыл бұрын

    True but it's still cheating. All that will happen is we'll see EVERY runner switch to this brand of shoes (or we'll see one particular brand of shoes mandated for all runners), and that will remove the competitive advantage. That's the only way to maintain a level playing field.

  • @weyjei3709

    @weyjei3709

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then what about the hardwork and innovation done by nike, isn't it unfair for them

  • @nrc91

    @nrc91

    4 жыл бұрын

    How is it cheating when all companies have the opportunity to make a better shoe 🤨

  • @Howlett9999
    @Howlett99993 жыл бұрын

    I never thought I would click an 8 minutes Nike ad by myself

  • @maheshjayakumar569

    @maheshjayakumar569

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what they want, and seeing the comments everyone fell for it.

  • @23sleng

    @23sleng

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah lol people going in like this isn’t a commercial

  • @Qeengish

    @Qeengish

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even run and I want these shoes

  • @maheshjayakumar569

    @maheshjayakumar569

    3 жыл бұрын

    Classic example of how smart people entrap the dumb ones

  • @Sneax673

    @Sneax673

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking this exact same thing a minute in lol

  • @lennart266
    @lennart266Ай бұрын

    A bunch of extra layers of cloth is called "mechanical" doping? Seems like a smear campaign by Nikes competitors who got caught completely off guard.

  • @TheRealHaloLover
    @TheRealHaloLover Жыл бұрын

    I feel like they are made specifically for road running. I don't think they might even hinder you on trail runs with how much more nibble you have to be

  • @thelead1565
    @thelead15654 жыл бұрын

    Unless you’re going to make everyone wear the same shoe brand and model, it makes no sense to ban one.

  • @1DrnkCnuk

    @1DrnkCnuk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Might as well force everyone to run barefoot and have them separated into different categories based on foot arch.

  • @theshanamaster

    @theshanamaster

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's just like not letting anyone have steak because a baby cant eat it

  • @-COBRA

    @-COBRA

    4 жыл бұрын

    or force all to run barefoot

  • @shayslay3416

    @shayslay3416

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@theshanamaster that's honestly not a good comparison. The shoe and the steaks are the variables. A baby literally can't eat a steak, but all the runners can wear the vaporflys. It's more like people eating soup faster with a soup spoon vs people eating soup with a teaspoon, because the people are the constants, and the spoons are the variables, but they can still pick their own spoon.

  • @risktaker141

    @risktaker141

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@shayslay3416 wow, no one cares

  • @missvanjie905
    @missvanjie9054 жыл бұрын

    3 minutes in and they still haven’t explained HOW the shoes give anyone an advantage

  • @manchuratt8900

    @manchuratt8900

    4 жыл бұрын

    This annoyed me as well.

  • @mish2773

    @mish2773

    4 жыл бұрын

    A bit about the foam they use in planes

  • @andrzejsupermocny2386

    @andrzejsupermocny2386

    4 жыл бұрын

    B O U N C Y

  • @mish2773

    @mish2773

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andrzej Supermocny you can see the jiggle in the steps ;)

  • @DrMack9696

    @DrMack9696

    4 жыл бұрын

    They have a carbon plate in them which functions essentially as the springy legs amputee runners use... I'm not sure why this was not more thoroughly addressed here....

  • @ffrreeaakk
    @ffrreeaakk2 жыл бұрын

    What are the lights for at 6:04?

  • @marioelburro1492

    @marioelburro1492

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the line closer to the car marks the world record holders pace and the one behind it marks the pace at which the current runners are at

  • @johnlinneman2779
    @johnlinneman27792 жыл бұрын

    Quality journalism right here. Their investigation included cutting the shoe open and finding foam...

  • @THESLlCK
    @THESLlCK3 жыл бұрын

    The first time a shoe company delivers on its promises, it gets banned

  • @Minecraftmaster684

    @Minecraftmaster684

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is correct, we probably won’t see innovation like this anymore because shoe companies don’t want their shoes banned

  • @THESLlCK

    @THESLlCK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Minecraftmaster684 Or we just change the rulebooks. Then again, we'll probably end up with mechanical running shoes with full-on rebound springs like those sprint boots with spring feet

  • @SimonWoodburyForget

    @SimonWoodburyForget

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Minecraftmaster684 _Yeah right._ The entire goel of shoe companies is to get banned. The shoe that gets banned from the olympics will literally be advertised as being _too good_ which in turn causes people to buy more of them. The entire goal was to get banned.

  • @SomethingSeemsOff

    @SomethingSeemsOff

    2 жыл бұрын

    The NBA has had to ban multiple shoes from the league due to significant unfair advantage/increased danger to player.

  • @timolsen8601

    @timolsen8601

    2 жыл бұрын

    All basketball shoes increase danger to players as the narrow your base of support and increase stress on medial ligaments of the knee

  • @teddytatyo
    @teddytatyo4 жыл бұрын

    *MAN THE INSANE FREE ADVERTISEMENT THT NIKE GETS, ITS SO EFFECTIVE TO THE POINT EVERYONE WANTS A PAIR OF VAPORFLYS.*

  • @wanabie

    @wanabie

    4 жыл бұрын

    teddy tatyo I don't even run and I want a pair

  • @impacttrauma8696

    @impacttrauma8696

    4 жыл бұрын

    teddy tatyo, I immediately went to Amazon to see how much a pair cost! 😄

  • @SaMiChi

    @SaMiChi

    4 жыл бұрын

    This video seriously had no substance. I was looking for breakdown of the technology, but got nothing. They showed labs, and testing, and then it ends. I can't take it as anything other than just an 8 minute ad.

  • @connorburnand5865

    @connorburnand5865

    4 жыл бұрын

    this isnt free lol

  • @frdyn8tr

    @frdyn8tr

    4 жыл бұрын

    There is no way Nike got this much attention for free. I think some geniuses in Nikes marketing department pushed this hole "controversy" to this scale, maybe even started it in the first place.

  • @TheNextraa
    @TheNextraa Жыл бұрын

    Why is it always the reaction when there's a technological advancement in sports to ban the innovation and not embrace it?

  • @ManOfSteel1
    @ManOfSteel12 жыл бұрын

    after recent Olympics this is trending news but wsj coverd this a year ago before the games started , good job!

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