Kyle Katarn once left the rebel base armed with nothing but a pistol with two bolts worth of ammo in it. He returned the next day captaining a super star destroyer.

What I love so much about Kyle is that his personality is the antithesis of a Jedi, yet he becomes one of the greatest Jedi despite this. It's another example of why Luke's Jedi Order was superior.

@saintfreezy6914

4 ай бұрын

and makes no sense because Luke never even at least tried to follow the path Ben & Yoda set forth for him he just randomly made up new rules, him trying and learning from failure himself the same way the ones before him failed and THEN passing new teachings to Rey makes way more sense

@maxdam4059

4 ай бұрын

No the issue regarding Luke’s order in canon is way more dumb he literally did not learn anything , but in EU Luke before and after dark empire learned about how the Jedi fell , what made his father become darth vader , order 66 he also became a dark side user one point to learn how it works and went back to the light he also realized that those restrictions that Jedi made were the main reason why they fell and this is when he decided to make the new Jedi order with less restrictions that would cause many Jedi knights to fall to the dark side even the old republic approved it was the right thing to do , whatever Disney did was just horrible job do you want me to believe that by Luke simply having bad visions about his nephew he decided to kill him just like that ?Are you serious ?! Well a similar situation happened with Jacen Solo but still Luke never tried to kill him he tried to redeem him and thought that his sith master was the main reason until he realized that he took this path after it was revealed it was him who killed Mara Jada and tortured his son , event the main reason why Jacen took this path was due to Abeloth , the yuzaan vong invasion and his good intentions to save the galaxy and his secret daughter , as for Kylo his uncle tried to kill him that’s it even his actor thinks it was a bad idea

I was amazed at how good the audio dramas were for Kyle’s story.

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they're pretty great. Listening to them while at my day job really helped with writing the script in the evenings

@echobase6372

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, but the bouncers were.... questionable

@danielwilliamson6180

Жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE I've done some Star Wars stop motion videos. Please free to check them out on my channel.

@fbirosful

Жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE great job, hello from Brazil...these drawings are made by yourself?

@gameragodzilla

5 ай бұрын

What I liked in particular about the audio dramas was they weren’t just one reader for the whole story like most audio books, but each character had their own voice actor. I could easily picture an actual movie in my head while listening to the voices, which was amazing.

Definitely the Chuck Norris of Star Wars. I even heard he killed 30 Stormtroopers with a frag grenade. And then it blew up.

@NEEDbacon

2 ай бұрын

I mean, dude punched 5 Kel Dragons to death IN GAME.

@justsomewitcherwithalongsw4233

2 ай бұрын

Been playing the Dark Forces remastered edition. Can confirm!

@Prophetofthe8thLegion

28 күн бұрын

He strikes me as kind of a mad max character, shows up when the good guys need help, pretends to act like he doesnt really care and is only in it for the money or some sort of reward, fucks off when the job is done only to return for the slightest reason.

Yes Katarn IS the Chuck Norris of Star Wars. as the Rebels in Empire at War I loved using him to raid Imperial worlds.

@kingjonstarkgeryan8573

Жыл бұрын

He isn't it the game though. Are you using a mod?

@Luthen_Rael

Жыл бұрын

@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 He is in the game,in the forces of corruption DLC and in almost every other mod

@kingjonstarkgeryan8573

Жыл бұрын

@@Luthen_Rael I have Forces of Corruption. He isn't in the DLC. Mods are a different story, but I can never get them to work on my PC or laptop

@KevDoesYoutube

Жыл бұрын

​@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 I think he is in the mod "Republic at War" If I remember correctly

@derjude5758

8 ай бұрын

​@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573they must be referring to Thrawn's Revenge mod

Kyle Katarn once knocked up a Z-95. Incom later called the offspring an "X-Wing".

Dark Forces was what introduced me to Katarn back in 96.

To me, Kyle Katarn will always be remembered as the guy who stole the Death Star plans.

@kub5615

Жыл бұрын

In my headcanon he's not the one to do that but his will still be remembered as the one who Killen Jerec and Desann

@stevenyarnell8422

Жыл бұрын

Would it make more sense if Kyle stole PART of the Death Star plans? To me, it would! It would give him that feeling of having played a small role for a big cause. 🤔🙂

@Reach_of_the_Astronomican

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenyarnell8422 the plans were stolen exactly like that, multiple times, a portion at a time. That is, in normal star wars, not Disney star wars

@kapnkarhoonch5497

Жыл бұрын

Rouge One was an affront to Star Wars Lore, Andor is like saying oh my bad for making drink urine here wash it down with battery acid. A movie based on Dark Forces could have been the first and probably best Espionage themed Star Wars entry that could have led to even more tie ins later on. I'm not even going to pin this on Disney, Kathleen Kennedy is to blame for tampering with decades worth of Star Wars material that would have been better than anything that's been sh!t out since the prequels lol

@gameragodzilla

Жыл бұрын

@Homer Rogue One’s characters were boring as shit, so Kyle Katarn’s story in Soldier for the Empire is much better.

18:50 The actor portraying Kyle was interviewed regarding his performance. It was so well done that when asking about his motivations he advised he was channeling emotions regarding his own father.

@johnnykopp7304

10 ай бұрын

Jason Court was damn good as Kyle. I just wish he could’ve gone farther as an actor.

Kyle Katarn once tried shaving his beard. The results of said attempt are what we call beskar, phrik, and cortosis. The Death Star was a to-scale replica of one of Kyle Katarn's nuts. There is no chin behind Kyle Katarn's beard, just another Bryar Pistol. The account of the Rakata bombing Tatooine turning it to desert is false. The truth is, Kyle was just thirsty one day.

We need more Space Chads like Katarn.

@delta2372

Жыл бұрын

To bad we will never get that with disney

Thank you for being so thorough with this character. I didn't even know some of these things.

Epic. Kyle is the goat 🐐

Both Kyle Katarn and Dash Rendar were my gateways to a much larger world. But in my book Katarn will always be tops for Jedi, and great vid man thanks for dropping all this. I still havent gotten through all the Yuuzon Vong stuff but did catch the Caedus stuff, felt like he got a bit punked out in that fight. But got to build the villain. 😮‍💨

THANKS TO HIM WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST HALO NARRATORS

This channel is awesome. Keep the old lore alive!

Kyle Katarn is the cannon for me.

Highly enjoyable commentary on my favorite Expanded Universe Hero. If you cannot tell I consumed much content on Kyle as he was the Uber Jedi. Yes indeed the “Uberjedi”

Im glad that katarn remained a staple character within the eu and has always been mentioned

Kyle Katarn was always frustratingly tanky in Empire at War. It felt lore accurate though, so I don't complain.

@fabbe856

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he isn't in EaW

@shadekerensky3691

Жыл бұрын

@@fabbe856 He most definitely is.

Awesome to see my boy Kyle getting more love. Though I think there was some missed opportunity to explain Kyle's unique perspecive on the Force that he developed after knowing both halves of its duality.

Yes sir. Great video. Love Kyle Katarn. He’s probably my favourite or second favourite Jedi ever. That Shad.

Another amazing video Kyle Katarn is one of my top Jedi

what an epic story

14:26 I freaked out at how damn cool it is that the valley of the Jedi ties to the origin of the Rule of Two for the Sith order and how they tied these huge stories together. When I read the Jedi vs Sith comic and saw the bouncers and then finally Darth Bane my stomach dropped out. They tied it all together in an amazing story and I got to go there to defend the valley from this several thousand year old trap which turned into a nexus of power. Now I don’t quite know how it could have turned into just a force nexus vs a dark side one, my only supposition is that it consumed Jedi as well as Sith in the thought bomb’s explosion. Then the poor neutral bouncers as well. Loved this

You forget how much Kyle did in service to the republic. His defeat of Jerec is undoubtedly the greatest of his feats. If Han was a Jedi Kyle is it.

Great Video! I love the Dave Dorman Kyle Katarn star wars paintings. He is one of my favourite artists

Wuhoo! The Lord has returned with another amazing vid!! Keep up the great work

He returns to us!!!

YES, I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT!

I hope Jerec and his Dark Jedi get a video in the future, fascinating characters!

His story may be over but he had a great time, thanks for the video Mandalore.

Let's get an animated film based on him. Just a brand new story set in the old eu.

@delta2372

Жыл бұрын

Kyle is WAAAY to white, straight and masculine for disney to adapt, plus the dude IMO is usually set in the more mature stories for star wars (minus jedi academy as much as I love that game) Instead we get walmart brand Kyle with cassian andor, and his defective stormtrooper who is force sensitive part stolen by Finn.

@gplgs4640

Ай бұрын

Disney would never be able to adapt a character like Kyle Katarn. He’d get downplayed into an abusive father while their new character, Gyrlpa Whurr, a disabled black woman from the world of K’aangz, accomplishes everythjng Kyle had done.

8:51 I know it sounds dumb, but this is my third playthrough of this. At this point, it is the heart of the time of the rebellion. It is so dear to my heart. They have tried to capture that fire in other mediums and they just couldn’t. A wonderous game and a brilliant time to be a rebel. Mandalorian, thanks again for this video mate.

Another masterpiece. Your skills are Ken Burns level 😂. I currently have plans to make a few 3D animated videos with Kyle Katarn, so this was very helpful. Can’t wait to see what you have up your sleeve next.

Very well done. Thanks.

I’m so happy Dark Forces got remastered!

Brilliant!

Great video

Great video. Do the solo children next

fantastic

Disney had a story created already... Kyle needs his own movie

17:39 Point of order he defeated one of them by shooting him point blank. The other he defeated in Lightsaber combat.

Being nicknamed “The Rimmer” is wild 💀💀 but Kyle is still a G and a top tier character

This was awesome but I want to ask can you please make a video on the Jensaarai

“You don’t have a chance” Roosh probably

Will you do a in depth Kal Skirata video?

@znmckague

Жыл бұрын

I second this, Kal'buir needs his own video

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

Eventually, I'm trying not to do so many biographies as they can be intensive to research.

@driverbrayer1177

Жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE no worries I totally understand and appreciate what you do man!

@kiankier7330

Жыл бұрын

best dad need his own video

Katarn was always my fave in all the classic dark forces games. I still play them today..Just to hear him say " ahh sith spit!!"...

The man, the myth, the legend. The manliest of manly men who has no chin, just another Bryar pistol under his beard, who once threw a thermal detonator and killed fifty Stormtroopers...then the detonator exploded, Kyle 'just a guy with a lightsaber and a few questions' Katarn!

I only know about this character because I was playing monkey island from 1992 and I looked in the mirror and my character said I looked like Kyle katarn. Been trying to find out why that was in a game that’s older than this character

Kyle Katarn is basically like combination Ahsoka and Finn but somehow better than both of them :P

The goattt kyle

Alongside Revan, Kyle is without a doubt the best Jedi in Legends continuity.

Heck yeah! (:

29:48 is that she-hulk?

Could you please do a video on the planet Illum and the character Ferus Olin

One small correction: Galak Fyyar was not the leader of the Empire Reborn movement. The leader of that movement was Lord Hethrir, who isn't mentioned in the game.

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps I missed something in my research but I recall that the events if Crystal Star happening before the events of Jedi Outcast, meaning Hethrir is dead and command would fall to Fyyar

@wilhufftarkin8543

Жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE I just looked it up in the New Essential Chronology (which is pretty outdated, but I bought it because it contains the original clone wars timeline, lol) and it mentiones Hethrir in 14 ABY, so two years after Jedi Outcast.

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

@Wilhuff Tarkin that's embarrassing. My dyslexic ass brain must have mixed up the dates

@wilhufftarkin8543

Жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE That's okay. You're doing a better job than Wookieepedia and any other lore channel I know.

How can I watch the movie that you borrowed clips from? Looks like a good fan made movie

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

They're live action cut scenes from the game Star Wars: Dark Forces II: Jedi Kinght. Back in the 90's, a lot of famous computer games had live action cut scenes, some cheesier than others lol.

This better be good

What editing software do you use?

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

Adobe premiere 2014

Honestly, Kyle Katarn is still my favorite Star Wars character. And I actually only got into his games after the decanonization of the EU, but man were his games great. A much better story than Disney’s Star Wars, that’s for sure.

Kyle was slated to die in Star by Star, but death was too afraid to approach him, and so he lived

I want Kyle Katarn in Star Wars again. TV series or movie, I don't care.

Hey, I know this isn't related to the video but I have a question. Is there an easy way to read EU stuff without the muddying of TCW? It's really hard to separate TCW from the EU nowadays and they tend to mix like oil and water. It's really hard as a newish EU fan to read prequel material not tied to TCW. Sorry for the oddball question.

@clonetrooper2003

Жыл бұрын

Well I have a fan theory that abeloth is from the disney canon and that she was trapped in the legends canon and the reason for the contradictions was her muddling with time and psace shit

@wilhufftarkin8543

Жыл бұрын

I can't post links, so search for star wars timeline and go to the result that says "the star wars expanded universe timeline". There's a complete list of clone wars media ordered by the original timeline.

17:34 that one actually depends on the source. In the book, Katarn actually shot Gorc in the face and then beat Pic to death with 8t88's severed head. No, I am not joking. It was pretty metal.

David Tennant would have made a good live-action Kyle Katarn.

15:27 so I’ll try commenting this again Qu Rahn’s exact words were “The eradication of a Star System in a whisper would be within his power.” Silly I know but physical gestures are not necessary with the force. It’s the silly cartoons and films that added this later as a component to make the viewer understand what is happening.

What was the name of his co-pilot? Jyn Erso? Jan Ors? Can't remember

@Pvt.Conscriptovich

Жыл бұрын

Jan Ors.

actually, when kyle eventually died, the force became one with him.

Will you do stuff besides Star Wars like Indiana Jones?

@Trip-the-Sungazer

Жыл бұрын

If you do, I think that you should do one about Short Round from Indiana Jones.

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

I'm aware that Indiana Jones has its own Expanded Universe with books, comics, tv shows and video games but I have only ever seen the movies. I don't know enough about the Indiana Jones EU unfortunately

I heard Katarn only uses fresh Krayt dragon pearls to build lightsabers.

Kyle Katarn is that guy

15:28 Rahn’s exact words were “The eradication of a star system in a whisper would be within his power.” Which I find much more frightening than the snap of a finger.

2:36 Smee... Heee!

I read somewhere on Fandom wiki that in canon, he died while fighting Kylo Ren in the Jedi Temple coup and if that is true, I have a massive issue with it lmao.

I love how Kyle's story is not unlike reys. Seems like the force is working through Kyle and why he was "self taught" jereck was even able to do the dark side mind probe to gain info way before kylo Ren did.....hmmmm

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

Kyle had the added benefit of the ghost of Qu Rahn, offering him guidance and instruction , so while he did have to learn a lot of stuff on his own, he was given a nudge in the right direction.

@kyuss89

Жыл бұрын

True. And I'm not a sequel fan I just couldn't help but notice some parallels.

@gameragodzilla

Жыл бұрын

Kyle Katarn is both Finn the defecting Stormtrooper and Rey the self taught Jedi from humble origins, only done properly.

@Emberson-9000

9 ай бұрын

​@@gameragodzillaI'd say it's more believable for someone that's been enlisted in the Imperial Navy and later singlehandedly punch Kell Dragons to death to figure out how to swing a lightsaber good than someone who had just picked up a lightsaber for the first time in front of a dark jedi.

@gameragodzilla

9 ай бұрын

@@Emberson-9000 Exactly. Hell, he wasn’t even just enlisted, he was part of the Officer Corps and therefore got better training. And then he spent years as a Rebel mercenary while also self teaching himself some Force techniques before getting a lightsaber. Damn I love Katarn as a character.

There were COMICS about katarn?

Kyle fought Boba Fett on Nar Shadda, not Corascant

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15:27 another bad guy snapping his fingers hmm

wheres most of the lore taken for this? ive played the videogames but dont recall the story being this detailed with the background stories

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

My sources are in the video description. There were direct tie in novels to the games as well as other non related media he appeared in

@MagpieR6

Жыл бұрын

@@Manda-LORE thanks didnt see that, ill check out the novels

@gameragodzilla

Жыл бұрын

@@MagpieR6 I highly recommend the novels as well as the audio drama adapted from them, which have full on actors for the different speaking roles on top of the narrator. The first book adapts Kyle’s origins and leads up to the first level of Dark Forces where he steals the Death Star plans (so basically Rogue One but better). The next two books take place after ROTJ and adapt Jedi Knight into a fully fleshed out story.

@MagpieR6

Жыл бұрын

@@gameragodzilla searching online to buy them and theyre so expensive. the jedi knight one especially

I heard kyle swallowed a Sarlaac and slowly digested it for a thousand years.

Epic charachter ngl

Kyler katarn is better than written character than ashoka tano and the mandalorian

@yrooxrksvi7142

Жыл бұрын

And Cassian Andor

@Jedioutcast

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%

Also known as "The rimmer" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

This is my favorite character from my favorite Star Wars game and it is getting a remaster and I am so hyped. His story could very easily fit back into canon, and as an actor, I would love to play him. Also, does Jerick (or however you spell his name) look like Red Foreman from that 70s show to anybody else?

What finn supposed to be but they pushed rey

The Barbie-Boys send their regards from their Basement.

@Manda-LORE

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see Barb let's y'all come up for air sometimes!

Jyn Orso = Jan Ors

what is yoour scource for calling jeric a exquist.....whatever that word is, he is and was one of 7 dark jedi, i cant find anything that says what you said he was

@Manda-LORE

11 ай бұрын

Check the wizards of the coast sourcebooks

I always loved Kyle, he was definitely one of my favourite Star Wars characters, like Obi Wan and Han Solo combined and despite being kinda OP due to his video game protagonist status he was usually not too over the top in the same way Starkiller was, also given how wild the EU got he fit in pretty well power scale wise, he was really well written for the most part too. He's definitely the one part of the EU I miss most, possibly an unpopular opinion, but I'd sooner see Kyle made canon again before Revan not to say I'm not a fan of Revan, I just think Kyle is that little bit better.

Making Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade canon is the key to saving Star Wars.

See how almost all EU stories interconnect with each other's in a organic way unlike in Disney soy wars

@orbaitv5991

Жыл бұрын

Said by a guy who hasn't read anything from the new canon 🙃. Also what a creative insult.

@alsimmonshellspawn6021

Жыл бұрын

@@orbaitv5991 new canon books are boring 😴

@derjude5758

8 ай бұрын

The new Canon books fucking suck. They don't continue the story like the EU books did. They seek to fill in all of the gaps in the story that disney's shit writers created in the movies. I shouldn't be expected to pay more money for something that should have already been provided

@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445

8 ай бұрын

​@@derjude5758Sorry, but the two Thrawn-trilogys, Catalyst, Tarkin, Lords of the Sith, A New Dawn, Lost Stars, everything related to the High Republic, Jedi: Battle Scars (for as bad as its reputation always is), Servants of the Empire, the Padme-Trilogy (in a way), Dooku: Jedi Lost, Master and Apprentice, Leia: Princess of Alderaan, Dark Disciple, Black Spire, Battlefront: Twilight Company, Rise of the Red Blade, Ahsoka, Inferno-Squad, A Crash of Fate, Crimson Climb, The Legends of Luke Skywalker, Heir to the Jedi, Smugglers Run, Resistance Reborn, The Vow of Silver Dawn, Most Wanted, Phasma, the Alphabet-Squadron-trilogy, Weapon of a Jedi, Last Shot, Rebel Rising, Spark of the Resistance, Alien Species Vol. 1, The Princess and Scoundrel, the Certain Point of View-books and A Moving Target are literally saying no to you.

@passingrando6457

7 ай бұрын

​@@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445I'll give you Tarkin and Catalyst, but Zahn and Luceno got phased out of writing for Star Wars and the rest of that list that I've read was not good. At least you didn't mention Chunky Wendigo and his Aftermath series with the fart wedding.

To be honest, dark forces 2, and jedi outcast should have been the sequel trilogy.

@cptsteele91

Жыл бұрын

A version if Rogue One with Kyle would've tied in pretty well then too, could even set up potential future movies with Jedi Academy and Mysteries of the sith as well...oh well, Kyle Katarn is definitely the part of the EU I miss most and want to see brought back in some way, obviously there'd have to be some alterations now but I think there is definitely a way to rework Kyle's stories into the new canon.

@carloRX78K2

Жыл бұрын

@@cptsteele91 i did imagine a Kyle Katarn story set 5-10 yrs after ROTJ, and split into 3 part trilogy, and would serve as the build up leading to the rise of the 1st order, the attempt of creating a new republic to counter the imperial remnants and ofcourse have the characters like desann, jerec or even tavion to be central villains on each films making it correspond to the "3 act structure" that the SW saga is known for.

@cptsteele91

Жыл бұрын

@carlo tortor that does sound cool, could tweak Jerec, Desann and Tavion (perhaps Jerec takes in Desann after the incident where he killed a fellow apprentice, then Desann takes over Jerecs group of dark Jedi, Tavion included) to be former inquisitors who became the Knights of Ren or an earlier iteration at least that would eventually go on to aid Snoke in corrupting Ben...

@carloRX78K2

Жыл бұрын

@@cptsteele91 now thats even more clever or brilliant bro, i wish Disney could consider it maybe in the future, so many elements in the legends cannon could be implemented like maybe give a proper reason on why snoke could exist, even the EU palpatine clones does exists but they were executed well and also made sense, i like your idea on the inquisitors specially jerec's place in the story honestly they doo work

And to think they thought Andor could even slightly replace this.

@orbaitv5991

Жыл бұрын

And when did Andor ever tried that?

@jaxongedden7174

Жыл бұрын

@@orbaitv5991 when they replaced Dark Forces with Rogue One and barely tried to hide it.

@wilhufftarkin8543

Жыл бұрын

​@@josemengelez6947 Cal Kestis is more of a Jax Pavan to me.

@witcherjohn3440

4 ай бұрын

@@orbaitv5991I think you’re slow I’ve read your other comments and man they confirm that

My childhood was the Dark Forces and Jedi Knight games. If Filoni and the gang can bring the best of Legend and New canon together👌 Imagine Kyle, Cal, Mara Jade, Han Solo, Jan Ors, Merrin +++ rebuilding the jedi order etc? Kicking arses punching faces? Rogue one need to bake in Kyle, since he was the ex imperial agent that whent rogue agent for the rebels and stole the plans... well parts of it so that Leia could get em.

Yeesh... "Rimmer" isn't the best nickname lmao

ohhh Disney, you have a great trilogy here to do , was so easy, but you fools decide to listen to Kennedy and her goons and did the lamest trilogy , what a waste of money and time Kyle Katarn , Mara Jade, Dash Rendar,...yoy have them all !!!!

Not that I didn’t like rogue one cause I did!! However yes it was Kyle katarn that hot the Death Star plans. And I really think Disney needs to incorporate him into canon