The Brutal Downfall of Tony Khan's Ring Of Honor

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In 2022, it was announced by AEW owner Tony Khan that the had purchased the Ring Of Honor (ROH) brand. However, ROH has had a very quick and brutal downfall and is a shadow of it's former self, so what happened?
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  • @hhtptai
    @hhtptai Жыл бұрын

    They would benefit so much from having weekly ROH TV on KZread.

  • @twilliamspro

    @twilliamspro

    11 ай бұрын

    Give the weekly show for free to encourage the purchase of Ppvs

  • @Sethantoniorodriguez

    @Sethantoniorodriguez

    11 ай бұрын

    They arguably should’ve made it what collusion is rn. Already had a rich history and guys like punk going there made sense, because he used to run that place along with many others. It’s crazy how they’ve fumbled ROH so far, I thought they were gonna try and make it massive again

  • @TheBlackNostalgiaNerd

    @TheBlackNostalgiaNerd

    11 ай бұрын

    Would they tho

  • @al5306

    @al5306

    11 ай бұрын

    No, they wouldn't. If the product is awful seeing more of it doesn't make it better. ROH is a bunch of nobodies having fake looking matches. It's not the same ROH that everyone loves from way back when.

  • @kakekikoku9492
    @kakekikoku9492 Жыл бұрын

    What I like about TK's ROH: - Great matches - Fantastic PPVs What I hate about TK's ROH: - Awful booking - ROH Champions regularly appear on Dynamite - Matches with no build - Too many matches - ROH airs on Honor Club (few people watch ROH on Honor Club and stick to watching highlights on ROH's YT channel instead)

  • @reallynotmateo8805

    @reallynotmateo8805

    11 ай бұрын

    negatives weigh out the positives , move on

  • @Petit_Kiwi_Rouge

    @Petit_Kiwi_Rouge

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@reallynotmateo8805or just watch PPV ?

  • @jordanmorton713

    @jordanmorton713

    11 ай бұрын

    I wish they put Ring of Honor on MAX instead

  • @kakekikoku9492

    @kakekikoku9492

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jordanmorton713 me too

  • @felipestevens2719

    @felipestevens2719

    11 ай бұрын

    totally agree, billy gunn calls AEW "the wild west" with no structure

  • @Qin_Lee
    @Qin_Lee10 ай бұрын

    ROH now is like ECW for AEW but less extreme and boring crowd

  • @gregpackman9833
    @gregpackman9833 Жыл бұрын

    The early PPV's under the Khan era were great but forcing ROH content and titles onto Dynamite ruined a lot of momentum of AEW. Combined with the build for the first Forbidden Door, it was all kind of a mess. If ROH was just PPV's then would definitely purchase them but I really hope the ROH mini era on Dynamite doesn't come back any time soon

  • @RomaroBrandon

    @RomaroBrandon

    7 ай бұрын

    I can't exactly agree that putting ROH on Dynamite was/is a bad thing because a lot of people (myself included) want ROH back on TV.

  • @veilscarecrow
    @veilscarecrow Жыл бұрын

    In Ring Storytelling and Psychology will always mean more than In Ring Workrate unless you're a MARK.

  • @mikeclark7026

    @mikeclark7026

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup.

  • @highandfried

    @highandfried

    11 ай бұрын

    Money Mark head ass 😂

  • @yoshmorita6860

    @yoshmorita6860

    11 ай бұрын

    I'm Mark Zuckerberg

  • @wcjohnson123
    @wcjohnson123 Жыл бұрын

    I firmly believe that the main reason that he bought Ring of Honor was for All In.

  • @joshuamelton9148

    @joshuamelton9148

    Жыл бұрын

    Bingo

  • @georgewashingmachine6240

    @georgewashingmachine6240

    Жыл бұрын

    well you are firmly wrong then

  • @joshuamelton9148

    @joshuamelton9148

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgewashingmachine6240 The All In PPV was the unofficial birth of AEW. Owning the ROH Library was definitely a bonus

  • @georgewashingmachine6240

    @georgewashingmachine6240

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshuamelton9148 No the RTA bought THC Archive which led to the founding of the BSI and JPE

  • @ezstreete

    @ezstreete

    11 ай бұрын

    Absolutely.... All In was ROH property....

  • @AnthonyAnalog
    @AnthonyAnalog11 ай бұрын

    Tbh ROH never recovered from losing Punk, Joe, Danielson, and McGuiness. Tyler Black was never a draw. Steen and Generico weren't draws. The "eLitE" were never a draw. Adam Cole, Jay Lethal, and Dalton Castle all generated some interest, but neither Cole nor Castle were Champs long enough or at the right times to capitalize on the intrigue they generated from outsiders. Sinclair didn't even invest in proper cameras and lighting until it was way too late. Tony bought a tape library and a streaming platform tech stack that will likely be copy/pasted into a site for AEW's back catalog.

  • @StarrPower2232
    @StarrPower2232 Жыл бұрын

    Downfall? It’s barely begun.

  • @tlbryant4697

    @tlbryant4697

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm getting kind of sick of all the negative videos.... like wtf is there nothing else you can do..... markyd brought me here but I'm getting tired of it

  • @Biting_bullets25

    @Biting_bullets25

    Жыл бұрын

    And its not bad

  • @mikeclark7026

    @mikeclark7026

    Жыл бұрын

    And, like every thing else the pedo touches, alrwsdy DEAD.

  • @tlbryant4697

    @tlbryant4697

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Biting_bullets25 exactly I feel like top 10 has became like one of those gamer people who only cover the bad stuff for views. If he wants his channel to grow he needs to grow up and expand out to other topics if not he will constantly stay a jobber in the wrestling KZread community

  • @georgewashingmachine6240

    @georgewashingmachine6240

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tlbryant4697 same, toop 10 is such a negative nancy

  • @Archangel-ct1iq
    @Archangel-ct1iq Жыл бұрын

    They honestly should just use the Rampage time slot for ROH.

  • @felipestevens2719

    @felipestevens2719

    11 ай бұрын

    yes

  • @TheBlackNostalgiaNerd

    @TheBlackNostalgiaNerd

    11 ай бұрын

    Why would they call it ROH rampage when WWE Is the TV show new it's not a federation anymore it AEWs version of ECWWE

  • @al5306

    @al5306

    11 ай бұрын

    They can't. Turner wants the AEW property. They don't know want ROH.

  • @polarfamily6222
    @polarfamily6222 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't that a bit of a reach? The TK era of ROH has just begun and as a reference I'm a new ROH viewer and I do enjoy it.

  • @Biting_bullets25

    @Biting_bullets25

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea there hasn’t been an episode I haven’t liked its no prime roh but its better then dark, elevation, and rampage are

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @Dontmatter215blahblah

    @Dontmatter215blahblah

    Жыл бұрын

    🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @LilBitDistributist

    @LilBitDistributist

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Biting_bullets25it actually has exclusive belts, divisions, and PPVs which already puts it above those mentioned. I don’t see ROH as Dark 2.0, I see it as NXT for AEW and their PPVs like Takeovers.

  • @decepticonxhunter4850

    @decepticonxhunter4850

    11 ай бұрын

    Let's be real: TK overpaid for a product that isn't producing any real returns. He got played.

  • @calebmaybin6896
    @calebmaybin6896 Жыл бұрын

    TK surely didn't help things get better when he treated the then Men and Women's Main Champs like trash. It's no secret AEW is one-sided when booking crossover matches with IMPACT-signed talent but Deonna Purrazzo held onto the Women's ROH Title after Rox C left for WWE and became yet another IMPACT Talent made to look unimportant by barely even promoting the match. Johnathan Gresham, not-signed, was asked to drop the title to Claudio Castignolli in less than 10 minutes before possibly being booked with no immediate plans which was an insult to someone keeping the title alive during ROH's death. AEW seems eager to wanting their talent to win other companies' titles but won't show the same courtesy in return.

  • @GreyLeo

    @GreyLeo

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly the same way WWE would do it yet ppl swear AEW is so much better with the politics

  • @adamandanna

    @adamandanna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GreyLeo same way they had omega crush rich swann's momentum. the impact and aew crossover could have been good.. honestly the roh invasion in tna was better then what we got now. i have a soft spot for impact

  • @GreyLeo

    @GreyLeo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@adamandanna Same here been watching them since the NWA/TNA weekly pay per views. Crazy cause if they would of just done their own thing and not try to compete with WWE they would still be a major promotion

  • @suneater98
    @suneater98 Жыл бұрын

    How is it a downfall if it just recently got revived wait at least 2 years before claiming that it was a downfall 🤣🤣 and this is coming from A NOAH, NJPW Stardom fan😭😭

  • @bashamd96

    @bashamd96

    Жыл бұрын

    A revival if compared to the original is from the beginning below it it's a downfall it's recoverable but still a downfall

  • @suneater98

    @suneater98

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bashamd96 can't argue with that

  • @deandrepresley4503

    @deandrepresley4503

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bashamd96 ROH had 800 buys and that is not close to Tony Khan Ring of Honor

  • @bashamd96

    @bashamd96

    Жыл бұрын

    @deandrepresley4503 Buys mean nothing if the quality is lacking and most of the target audience isn't happy with where it is. Long-term problems are required fixes not held off on cause they aren't short-term yet

  • @WillHendersonTX

    @WillHendersonTX

    Жыл бұрын

    the downfall was the old owner's version of ROH, as Sinclair Broadcasting Group didn't treat it well and when the bought the FSN RSNs, it put them into debt and then the pandemic crippled them as well as the 2020 election.

  • @keviekev1000
    @keviekev1000 Жыл бұрын

    I think you are rushing things a bit with this one. Just an opinion.

  • @lunabourke3923
    @lunabourke3923 Жыл бұрын

    I was really loving RoH prior to Final Battle 2021(starting from the Pure Tournament)

  • @RozayyMontana
    @RozayyMontana Жыл бұрын

    Didn’t Nxt start on the wwe network before they got on USA network? You have to start somewhere

  • @hxn_06

    @hxn_06

    Жыл бұрын

    U do have a great point tbf

  • @MrMctuck
    @MrMctuck4 ай бұрын

    Drinking game, take a shot every time he says Ring of Honor.

  • @montana01
    @montana01 Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say it's in the grave yet; but not a good sign when Collision got a SAT show; and ROH was stuck with a streaming deal for their TV. With their biggest stars/champs appearing more on AEW. We are 9 days away from a ROH PPV and they've announced 1 match with little/no build. I think it's probably because of some changes backstage, plans changed; and now they are mostly using the enhancement talent on ROH. It still has a couple really good matches each week; but it's always going to be little brother to AEW.

  • @Matt-cr4vv

    @Matt-cr4vv

    7 ай бұрын

    Streaming deal would mean that they got a third party streaming service to license their content and pay them for it. That’s not the case. They’re streaming it on their own platform, which isn’t a streaming deal. The last number of subscribers I’ve seen from Tony is 12,000 subscribers who pay $9.99 a month. At that number that’s roughly $1.44M a year of revenue from the service. Throwing in everything else it would probably be generous to say ROH grosses $10M. I don’t fault Tony from wanting the content but outside of acquiring all the syndication rights for the show it was a horrible idea to relaunch the thing as there’s no way it’s anywhere in the universe of breaking even on what it costs to operate. It’s also silly to keep investing PPV resources for shows that set records if they do 25K or more buys at a lower price over AEW branded shows that will don100K or more for $10 more per buy. It’s a smaller fan base than AEW fans likely already knew about and can’t be much more than a passion project to operate if we’re real about it. It’ll exist for the length of time Tony is cool to run it at losses because what can he market it for a tv deal with? He has an audience of 12K people willing to pay to watch it - when he aired ROH content in the main shows the viewers take declines. There’s not much of anything positive to sell it to somebody to pay for it unless he can somehow have leverage to tie it to the main content - I.e. if you want dynamite and such you have to air ROH on one of your networks.

  • @swampertbanka1
    @swampertbanka111 ай бұрын

    A minor critic I have is the ROH belts themselves. All the belts have same dull nickel plated design. Traditional I think championships should be Gold! making them nickel/silver just makes them look 2nd rate.

  • @korywilliams1856

    @korywilliams1856

    11 ай бұрын

    That's what makes them stand out. It's the original ROH look and unique to that brand.

  • @jjc1188
    @jjc11887 ай бұрын

    Daddy Kahn is going to do an intervention very soon. Tony to rehab, checkbook to Daddy Kahn and 90% of the roster is fired....and Daddy Kahn puts all programming on hiatus until TK kicks his habit and then is told he has a $5000 budget to do an Indy show

  • @hsthatzo8063

    @hsthatzo8063

    7 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂💯

  • @WrestlingHighlightsNetwork
    @WrestlingHighlightsNetwork10 ай бұрын

    Lets also not forget how ROH had another weird debut at final battle 2022, with Control Your Narrative, but just like the enzo & cass debut nothing came of it.

  • @DeadKoby
    @DeadKoby11 ай бұрын

    SOME of the ROH wrestlers came to work with NWA before TK came in and did the buyout. It was kind of cool.

  • @georgewashingmachine6240
    @georgewashingmachine6240 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Last time I was THIS early, my girlfriend SLAPPED me!!!

  • @bigjoeofthe707
    @bigjoeofthe70711 ай бұрын

    Dude just barely started announcing matches for their upcoming PPV. Including just yesterday a 4-way match for the tag titles. And no announcement yet on who will take Mark Briscoe’s replacement in the ROH world title match

  • @TophDaGreat
    @TophDaGreat Жыл бұрын

    Nah I get what you are saying but NXT did way more damage to ROH before AEW was even a thought. They raided ROH as well. Remember Kyle beat Cole at Final Battle just for him to drop it back to Cole at WK because he signed with WWE. Fish and Cole left not long after. HHH had been trying to sign the Briscoes for the longest time, but it never happened. Priest is another prospect ROH was high on that WWE took. Black and Gold NXT was basically a ROH/PWG on steroids but with a WWE budget (They also poached off the UK Indy scene). All that happened before AEW existed . Putting ROH's decline all on AEW is disingenuous imo. Also downfall? You speak like TK has had ROH for like a decade or something. As numerous others have said in the comments the weekly TV is actually pretty good. The PPV's have been good too. I could go without seeing ROH featured on AEW though.

  • @LilBitDistributist

    @LilBitDistributist

    Жыл бұрын

    Bruh thank you. I’ve been saying all of this forever. A lot of people for some reason don’t even see the connection between ROH and AEW so that they definitely don’t understand the history with ROH and NXT. NXT tried to make a system that would replace indies by taking all the talent and have them work with the homegrown so they can be as good as guys in the indies for 10 years in the time of 2-3. They hurt ROH, Impact, Evolve, the UK indies. The original Black and Gold brand was some of the best wrestling content that WWE ever made but it came at a great cost no doubt.

  • @shadhinov
    @shadhinov11 ай бұрын

    if tony had any brain he'd run roh like nxt

  • @felipestevens2719
    @felipestevens271911 ай бұрын

    Tony Khan is ruining ROH, to many squash matches, no stories, random matches, only flavor of the month matches, it's all over the place, no wonder Billy Gunn is leaving, quoted as saying the AEW/ROH is the wild wild west of wrestling, with no structure or order, everyone doing whatever they want,that's why i only watch NJPW or impact

  • @kngkashi7759
    @kngkashi775910 ай бұрын

    Aew as a whole is tragic especially when it comes to story telling with an exception of a few

  • @rachelknightonline
    @rachelknightonline Жыл бұрын

    As I’ve said before, why don’t they just make Rampage into the weekly ROH show

  • @EmberMcLain87

    @EmberMcLain87

    Жыл бұрын

    probably because it's now dark elevation since elevation and dark got cancelled by W B media.

  • @timothyblair7464

    @timothyblair7464

    Жыл бұрын

    Right? Like would it really hurt to let ROH have that 1 hour?

  • @edalexander7634

    @edalexander7634

    Жыл бұрын

    Because they’re different companies and the TV deal is with AEW only

  • @hxn_06

    @hxn_06

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timothyblair7464 it used to be an hour anyway before tk era so that would actually work

  • @TheJrockfreak
    @TheJrockfreak Жыл бұрын

    Roh hasnt had a downfall at all. The weekly show has been solid so far and its helped some talents who were getting lost especially Athena

  • @pudd66

    @pudd66

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I'm enjoying it and actually don't mind handing over the few bucks it costs on a monthly basis. I enjoy seeing Athena on a weekly basis, plus some of talent that otherwise would not be shown on a regular basis on AEW.

  • @Biting_bullets25

    @Biting_bullets25

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea I haven’t seen an really bad episode yet the wrestling is always good and there is always one really good match each week

  • @TheJrockfreak

    @TheJrockfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pudd66 yea i dont mind paying either and agreed, its been a good place for some talent to get more time to shine.

  • @TheBlackNostalgiaNerd

    @TheBlackNostalgiaNerd

    Жыл бұрын

    Athena needs to be on Collision with Taya Valkyrie Serena deebs

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    Name 5 must see matches.

  • @Godstone93
    @Godstone9311 ай бұрын

    Tony should have just made roh the cm punk show lol

  • @adamV5
    @adamV511 ай бұрын

    DOWNFALL??? i beg to differ Top10

  • @MrSawyers
    @MrSawyers11 ай бұрын

    Marks not wanting to admit roh is doa Claudio Ravioli is ROH World Champion, yet is nothing but a silent goon for Daniel Bryan on AEW tv

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon9 ай бұрын

    I don't understand how Tony Khan got Collision on TV but not Ring of Honor? Tony Khan should have tried doing that or tried to put it on a streaming service most people have like Max or Paramount+.

  • @SandMan1998

    @SandMan1998

    7 ай бұрын

    Because punk. He's draw but he didn't wanna go to dynamite

  • @RomaroBrandon

    @RomaroBrandon

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SandMan1998 I don't understand what you are saying.

  • @SandMan1998

    @SandMan1998

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@RomaroBrandonCM Punk made it happen

  • @RomaroBrandon

    @RomaroBrandon

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SandMan1998ok but that still doesn't answer my question.

  • @WhiskeyBrewer
    @WhiskeyBrewer Жыл бұрын

    WB didnt help when they wanted all AEW product on their networks. so a lot of spots that ROH could have used just vanished

  • @ImaKMS.
    @ImaKMS. Жыл бұрын

    I ain’t even an AEW fan, but it’s still way to early to judge them when they’re still early on

  • @georgewashingmachine6240

    @georgewashingmachine6240

    Жыл бұрын

    Not an AEW fan, opinion DISCARDED

  • @Dontmatter215blahblah

    @Dontmatter215blahblah

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgewashingmachine6240 you're a discard

  • @jonesinc.5860
    @jonesinc.5860 Жыл бұрын

    It's really because of the show deal. ROH has great talent. It's really just the promotion being a territory in a Globalized wrestling. The best option, I feel, is to make it the Smackdown of AEW, give up wrestlers not making crowds, and let them keep their belts. Make it so ROH is a part of AEW proper since Rampage isn't getting too much pull and collision is going to die out. IMO

  • @theoptiml

    @theoptiml

    Жыл бұрын

    If there’s a brand split it 100% collision. ROH will probably end up being NXT of AEW

  • @LilBitDistributist

    @LilBitDistributist

    Жыл бұрын

    ROH is already being soft rebooted into AEW’s developmental. Their PPVs are essentially NXT takeovers and I’m all for it. I’m hoping that if a harder split comes that there would be a draft over a week or two on AEW programming where the talent gets drafted to either ROH, Dynamite, and Collision. I think storylines would be more consistent.

  • @Mazz3D
    @Mazz3D Жыл бұрын

    You forgot about Kelly Kline

  • @yingdat9295
    @yingdat9295 Жыл бұрын

    The problem is that it would of been better of someone was booking it not Tony Khan That's why NXT works coz someone else is booking

  • @hxn_06

    @hxn_06

    Жыл бұрын

    Hes got too much on his plate i think

  • @coreyhendricks9490
    @coreyhendricks9490 Жыл бұрын

    SMH, these promotions get repetitive and it's not a good look

  • @shadhinov
    @shadhinov11 ай бұрын

    is it Ringobona or Ringobwana?

  • @TheMC1102
    @TheMC1102 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if Eddie Kingston would've beaten Claudio for the ROH world title if he didn't need to have that hernia surgery.

  • @mikeclark7026

    @mikeclark7026

    Жыл бұрын

    “World”

  • @cmartin8093

    @cmartin8093

    Жыл бұрын

    Heard he s taking part of the G1 tournament

  • @Mr.Majestic77
    @Mr.Majestic779 ай бұрын

    Big question. Should Tony Khan sell Ring of Honor to Anthem Sports and Entertainment? Afterwards Impact Wrestling and Ring of Honor can merge into *Impact Ring of Honor* .

  • @mikelachey824

    @mikelachey824

    4 ай бұрын

    ROH should be left to fade away. The point was to rescue the archive footage from Vinny buying it and burying it along with 90% of most wrestling history to push that garbage sports entertsinment reality TV shit as being wrestling. You cant own both and think you can fool people thsat they are difdferent. Especially when you've replaced 75% of AEW TV with ROH midcard jobbers. Its awful WWE level storylines with the 5 star dream match ups replaced by guys who werent relevant a decade ago, replacing the wrestlers we wanna see wrestling. End the promotion, because ROH is gone. This didnt work for WWE with ECW and its having the same negative effect on AEW. Khan is too stubborn to admit this was a bad idea. Take the archive footage and call it a day. Cut dead weight that nobody cares to see on tv like Strong, Cole, Bennett and Taven. I think Tony thinks fans parroting catchphreases equals being over and drawing. They'll move on to the next catchphrase, BayBay

  • @lukepower9537
    @lukepower9537 Жыл бұрын

    Where is the story telling the wrestling isn't bad but there's seems to be no logic to it just good matches which starts to get boring which is why I've stopped watching

  • @Caleb-cw9kc
    @Caleb-cw9kc Жыл бұрын

    Careful, Tom. TK & Aubrey Edwards will demonatize this video 😂

  • @jagger2313
    @jagger2313 Жыл бұрын

    Lol downfall? Seriously? I’m not even and AEW loyalist and I think that’s overreacting. I swear modern fans don’t know how to let things cook.

  • @al5306
    @al530611 ай бұрын

    Marty had allegations? He admitted to wanting to have sex with a kid. lol Dude is gross.

  • @balpreetsingh6834
    @balpreetsingh6834 Жыл бұрын

    It was basically a dead company before TK bought it, with the intention of using it as a talent farm. So, yes, ROH is dead but the title of the video is just clickbait.

  • @suneater98

    @suneater98

    Жыл бұрын

    I said the same thing

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    Salty folks.

  • @roberthooper77
    @roberthooper77 Жыл бұрын

    Wednesday should be AEW exclusive show, Friday should be ROH exclusive show and Collision should be a joint show. Just my opinion.

  • @Seanatonin

    @Seanatonin

    Жыл бұрын

    This

  • @Allztar_J
    @Allztar_J3 ай бұрын

    Aew's ecw

  • @FinalDestinationDeepspace
    @FinalDestinationDeepspace Жыл бұрын

    He is delusional that's what Tony problem is. He already ruined a good thing when Cody left..and the He ruined the CM punk Return...and he sucks.

  • @Random_Artist_Music
    @Random_Artist_Music Жыл бұрын

    It’s had 6 months and is still a glorified aew dark that they actually want people to pay for! Why so many squash match’s and match’s with no build whatsoever and the champions aren’t even there every week. I watch every few weeks on a third party site to see if it improves and it just doesn’t

  • @bobbyseafood2145
    @bobbyseafood214511 ай бұрын

    I didn’t even know he was part of ROH

  • @vherostar
    @vherostar Жыл бұрын

    This video is VERY harsh. TK has just started with ROH but more importantly they no longer have a TV deal. The only income from the show is through premium services like fire TV which most fans can't afford in times of a money crisis right now. He's clearly losing money on the show and he's brought back top ROH stars like Samoa Joe. Until he gets a TV deal though it's super hard to pump money into it. I'm sure he's working on a deal right now.

  • @georgewashingmachine6240

    @georgewashingmachine6240

    Жыл бұрын

    video is not harsh enough

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    Acting like Tony is a Saint. 😂😂😂😂

  • @Dontmatter215blahblah

    @Dontmatter215blahblah

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TimTE01 He's another Tony khan puppet

  • @redrag0n_
    @redrag0n_11 ай бұрын

    Have you seen the cards?! Downfall my ass

  • @whatwhatwhat30
    @whatwhatwhat3011 ай бұрын

    Great video all facts

  • @EmberMcLain87
    @EmberMcLain87 Жыл бұрын

    i'd love to start watching r o h, but not really keen to pay 10 a month. yea i could watch the older stuff, but i don't feel like binging through the past i honestly dont care about.

  • @pudd66

    @pudd66

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a fair point, but it is commercial free. The programs have been really good so far.

  • @WendysChilicup
    @WendysChilicup6 ай бұрын

    Welp this video aged like milk

  • @Blades_00
    @Blades_0011 ай бұрын

    He said when he bought it that it’s a developmental

  • @Nick-1990
    @Nick-1990 Жыл бұрын

    What downfall ?

  • @nanahunter3808
    @nanahunter3808 Жыл бұрын

    No story! That's my only problem

  • @KobeMead
    @KobeMead11 ай бұрын

    It’s more popular now than it ever was.

  • @georgewashingmachine6240
    @georgewashingmachine6240 Жыл бұрын

    Hissss join the lizard army

  • @mythicaldjent
    @mythicaldjent11 ай бұрын

    I mean i dont mind the new ROH its not what it used to be but we're only just beginning the endless possibilities for what it can become down the road.

  • @timothyblair7464
    @timothyblair7464 Жыл бұрын

    Personally I think there's an easy solution....use Rampage as the ROH show

  • @georgewashingmachine6240

    @georgewashingmachine6240

    Жыл бұрын

    bad idea

  • @timothyblair7464

    @timothyblair7464

    Жыл бұрын

    @@georgewashingmachine6240 why? Between dynamite and collision, that's 4 hours dedicated to the main aew roster. What's wrong with letting rampage be the spotlight for ROH?

  • @georgewashingmachine6240

    @georgewashingmachine6240

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timothyblair7464 would never work

  • @jonathanuveges6438
    @jonathanuveges643811 ай бұрын

    AEW Collision is a big F.U. to Ring Of Honor. Collision is not needed. Does AEW really need to be on television 5 hours a week?

  • @theevildice83
    @theevildice839 ай бұрын

    Hello from the future, weekly ROH actually ain't too bad now, has storylines and shit

  • @mrgonzale0978
    @mrgonzale0978 Жыл бұрын

    Downfall? You click bait people here dude. Not cool.

  • @muscleoutlaw
    @muscleoutlaw Жыл бұрын

    AEW took the place of ROH as the company that showcased quality wrestling above all else. So what we really have is Khan’s 4th tv show.

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    ‘Quality’ with Pockets and Harpo. 😂

  • @skyatollah2skyharder276

    @skyatollah2skyharder276

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TimTE01 Imagine using Jim Cornhole's shithouse insults and thinking you have a point.

  • @hxn_06

    @hxn_06

    Жыл бұрын

    @@skyatollah2skyharder276 he does lol . clearly punk was right about some fans with that first promo he cut on collision

  • @skyatollah2skyharder276

    @skyatollah2skyharder276

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hxn_06 No he doesn't. His comment is literally just Cucknette's shithouse nicknames.

  • @decepticonxhunter4850

    @decepticonxhunter4850

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hxn_06 Ironically, Punk forgot to include himself, as he is by far one of the softest wrestlers there are, mentally or physically. The guy went berserk ranting about the Elite supposedly spreading rumors about him.

  • @adamandanna
    @adamandanna Жыл бұрын

    they should have just called collision ring of honor or hell even a hour long rampage could have been ring of honor or call it aew ring of honor if you have to get around the bosses its the similiar problem wwe had trying to get wcw on another network. i fully agree. also i don;t like how claudio is the world champion of ring of honor(i mean i like him as champion) but then is also involved in the blackpool combat club on dynamite. if ring of honor is suppose to be its own thing. they shouldn't have the talent double dip. also when you see orange cassidey and the dark order show up on there and they beat mercedes martinez(who granted i think she was hurt so i understand) to give it to botchy athena. joe is awesome and claudio is great for sure.. always like them but yeah most of the show is just a bunch of jobber squashes, mark briscoe, the righteous and dalton castle and shane taylor and a bunch of aew jabronis. its a shame. i agree stick to the ppvs or get a focused team behind it. i think they should just give them rampage. its; not really serving much of purpose now anyway. dynamite is hit or miss but mostly good and collision is solid thus far.

  • @northleedspoppa
    @northleedspoppa Жыл бұрын

    You know what kind of man he is when smoked up big swole weed 😂

  • @darthnowlan
    @darthnowlan Жыл бұрын

    ROH hasn't had a downfall. It's great. Athena is putting on banger after banger matches on ROH.

  • @skyatollah2skyharder276

    @skyatollah2skyharder276

    Жыл бұрын

    No it isn't. It's shit.

  • @richardhutchinson6425

    @richardhutchinson6425

    Жыл бұрын

    She's terrible

  • @ericb9252
    @ericb9252 Жыл бұрын

    ROH has been consistently amazing since Tony bought it. Look at the great matches Athena has had with Skye Blue, Kiera Hogan and Yuka Sakazaki. The epic trilogy between FTR and The Briscoes.

  • @TheJrockfreak

    @TheJrockfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    Athena has been on fire since the roh shows started

  • @JCW65

    @JCW65

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah it’s ass everyone leaves anyway

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    Is she still trying to kill people?

  • @TheJrockfreak

    @TheJrockfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TimTE01 lol yea she is.

  • @cumexolaf3276

    @cumexolaf3276

    Жыл бұрын

    But I wanted YUKA to win ....

  • @not-a-hardcore-gamer2555
    @not-a-hardcore-gamer255511 ай бұрын

    Okay…you might have pulled the trigger on this one too soon my brother in Christ. Let it cook until 2024 THEN come back

  • @thegodfathernfg756
    @thegodfathernfg75611 ай бұрын

    ROH this is why I didn’t want to come here to go to Tony kinda company could’ve just die or Triple H could’ve picked it up but he could’ve just rest in peace to be honest

  • @RingCollector30
    @RingCollector3011 ай бұрын

    Ring of Honor is NXT for them they should take all the titles and make them the primary titles on the second show so they have more to compete for and to split between so many wrestlers

  • @ezstreete
    @ezstreete11 ай бұрын

    The set looks great with the red and black buut after the first couple of shows, it turned into another AEW Dark... Nothing sets it apart from AEW as talent goes back and forth between AEW & ROH.... It's too bad because it could have been great but at least Tony didn't bury it like Vince did to WCW & ECW....

  • @yadielenielbellecolon982
    @yadielenielbellecolon982 Жыл бұрын

    Thank For The Video 🙊🤯😃😍👍🥰💐🌟🥇🏆

  • @Yeetusdeletus897
    @Yeetusdeletus897 Жыл бұрын

    Dude it only recently had gotten a weekly show (which has been pretty good) and even the time inbetween the weekly show started airing and tony khan bought it was pretty great. They had really good ppvs and an amazing briscoes FTR trilogy, wheeler yuta,Samoa joe,Athena, and plenty to come have really benefited from it. A bit of a premature time to make this video

  • @Kramerica962

    @Kramerica962

    Жыл бұрын

    No milly?

  • @TheJrockfreak

    @TheJrockfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kramerica962 who is Milly?

  • @georgewashingmachine6240
    @georgewashingmachine6240 Жыл бұрын

    Flare signalling the Context Squad: GO!

  • @MuhammadZain-qv8oh
    @MuhammadZain-qv8oh6 ай бұрын

    Bro TK literally saved ROH it was out of business anyways

  • @TobeyStarburst
    @TobeyStarburst Жыл бұрын

    Downfall lol

  • @CompoundInterest1982
    @CompoundInterest198211 ай бұрын

    Honor Club is 9.99, and there are no PPV's. Peacock is 5.99 and shows all the ppv's. It's no contest. Also as a long time ROH fan, yes it has fallen off. It's not what it was

  • @SandMan1998

    @SandMan1998

    6 ай бұрын

    U also get WrestleMania

  • @theoptiml
    @theoptiml Жыл бұрын

    AEW should honestly just do a brand split have roh names drafted so the big guys get regular tv time- have rampage as a brand vs brand b show Where some roh guys can get thrown in and just keep the roh weekly show back to its roots and just have it as an indie feel to it with big ppv a every few months.

  • @LilBitDistributist

    @LilBitDistributist

    Жыл бұрын

    My idea is to hard split the brands, have a draft across AEW/ROH programming over a week or two, and have talent drafted between dynamite, collision, and ROH. Get rid of Rampage and replace it with ROH tv.

  • @felipestevens2719

    @felipestevens2719

    11 ай бұрын

    @@LilBitDistributist yes

  • @Mankey619
    @Mankey619 Жыл бұрын

    Don’t you think you’re exaggerating on this topic on this negativity your spreading on ROH’s run. Despite the flaws it had. It doesn’t mean that ROH is going to end.

  • @kidz4p509
    @kidz4p509 Жыл бұрын

    Is ROH still on FITE?

  • @peterq1978
    @peterq1978 Жыл бұрын

    there has been stories on dark/elevation, even exclusive ones, like Avalon and Culter, a great story.

  • @TimTE01

    @TimTE01

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @TheChiefSteve
    @TheChiefSteve Жыл бұрын

    Sorry but it's bullshit. Before TK RoH was nearly Dead. It is a good Solid Weekly with some good Matches and until now every week has one Match who Stands Out. Before the Buy there were Shows with 150-300 people, i know it bc i was there at some of these.

  • @timoutlaw9763
    @timoutlaw976311 ай бұрын

    AEW where wrestling promotions go to Die

  • @SuperMarc281
    @SuperMarc28111 ай бұрын

    I enjoy AEW but have no interest in ROH. They’ve just not built it up enough. Can’t stand it when they bring the ROH belts to AEW too

  • @stealth1474
    @stealth147411 ай бұрын

    Downfall? Without Tony Khan there wouldn't be a Ring of Honor he saved it form shutting it's doors

  • @bhhdty2272
    @bhhdty2272 Жыл бұрын

    Roh is literally Dark 2.0, why even buy it if you have no plans for it? J Gresh was 100% right we should’ve known this as soon as Tony disrespected him.

  • @linewalker
    @linewalker Жыл бұрын

    Agreed, ROH lost its intimate indy fan feel. Now, it's brightened up studio sterile look.

  • @jamespaul6315
    @jamespaul6315 Жыл бұрын

    Aew sucks too

  • @mikeclark7026

    @mikeclark7026

    Жыл бұрын

    Objectively

  • @georgewashingmachine6240
    @georgewashingmachine6240 Жыл бұрын

    Notification Squad, where you at???

  • @Jimmydice
    @Jimmydice Жыл бұрын

    Lol a little premature but you do you

  • @rickyhurtt5568
    @rickyhurtt556811 ай бұрын

    ROH would get a lot more views if it was on a standard streaming channel you could get thru say Hulu or prime (HEY TK). I myself don't wanna pay for another streaming channel just to watch it. No its not as good as the AEW product but I myself would watch every week if I could. You think there'd be some channel that'd be happy to pick it up and I've seen a lot of other people thanking the folks who did stream a few early episodes on KZread till they noticed it and got their grubby little fingers on it. Whoever THEY are. Then again I may be just one of a small few who think this way

  • @rickyhurtt5568

    @rickyhurtt5568

    11 ай бұрын

    Guess I spoke too soon. You and I kinda agree. Atleast partly

  • @nukebox6683
    @nukebox668311 ай бұрын

    Come sempre, scontenti di tutto e di tutti........tremendi

  • @georgewashingmachine6240
    @georgewashingmachine6240 Жыл бұрын

    list your sources in the description please

  • @buddylee5712
    @buddylee5712 Жыл бұрын

    ROH failed because it cared more about work rate than storytelling.

  • @cumexolaf3276

    @cumexolaf3276

    Жыл бұрын

    ... and still does. That's why the match marks love it so much.

  • @benschmelzer7748
    @benschmelzer7748 Жыл бұрын

    Dingus

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