The Biggest Scandal in Chess History: The Full Story

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The BIGGEST Chess Cheating Scandal Ever? From the current world chess champion Magnus Carlsen resigning in protest and incredulous "beads" conspiracies to the 100 Million Dollar lawsuits against the largest chess companies in the world - Andrea Botez will cover the whole story from start to finish in this video.
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00:00 The Chess Cheating Scandal
01:26 Hans Niemann vs Magnus Carlsen
03:13 Sinquefield Cup
05:53 Cheating Accusations
07:56 Hans' Online Cheating
09:30 Magnus Resigns
10:12 Magnus' Statement
11:15 $100 Million Defamation Lawsuit

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  • @GothamChess
    @GothamChess Жыл бұрын

    The craziest chess story is actually you avoiding a chessboxing match against me

  • @pazecs

    @pazecs

    Жыл бұрын

    haha lol

  • @Tejoz

    @Tejoz

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @robertfisher9588

    @robertfisher9588

    Жыл бұрын

    Alas, bad backs speak for themselves too.

  • @loganharrie8220

    @loganharrie8220

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @daanreehoorn3403

    @daanreehoorn3403

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahahahaha fr

  • @ToddHughlett
    @ToddHughlett Жыл бұрын

    “No one has got away with (cheating) at a high level”. BUT if they had got away with it, you wouldn’t know, would you….? 🤔

  • @thecurliest_fry

    @thecurliest_fry

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol, I scrolled down right after I heard that line.

  • @rasicule

    @rasicule

    Жыл бұрын

    @@thecurliest_fry haha same

  • @johannezz93

    @johannezz93

    Жыл бұрын

    DUN DUN DUUUN

  • @vlrginizer927

    @vlrginizer927

    Жыл бұрын

    I think its a joke but when you win a tournament and confess years later you technically got away with cheating

  • @RB0087

    @RB0087

    Жыл бұрын

    (the opponents of) Borislav Ivanov would beg to differ... I guess he didn't completely get away with it since he got a ban for a while, but no one uncovered hard proof of how he did it. Officials just saw an FM suddenly playing 100% perfect games every game. Then he moved on from chess and ran an ID counterfeiting ring before going to prison. What a guy.

  • @manakin5
    @manakin5 Жыл бұрын

    I just started hearing about this whole thing (I'm not really a chess player, but just someone who likes the game and watches educational videos now and then). I'm so glad to have come across this video, I was only getting bits and pieces of the story here and there beforehand. Thank you, very well done! With some nice comedic touches :)

  • @JasperKloek

    @JasperKloek

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here.

  • @loganb452
    @loganb452 Жыл бұрын

    This was very professionally created and presented, better than most newscasters! I hope we see more of these short 'reporting the important news from chess' in the future!

  • @King6d9
    @King6d9 Жыл бұрын

    Bobby Fischer’s peak rating is 2895 - he never got a 100% accurate game. Garry Kasparov’s peak rating is 2856 - he never got a 100% accurate game. Hans Niemann’s peak rating is 2688 - and he has had 10 games with 100% accuracy. One of those games was 42 consecutive perfect moves, and it was not a blowout type of game either. Doing that is pretty much impossible. Hans is 19 years old with 10 perfect games already, Magnus (peak rating 2882) is 31 and has had only 2 perfect games in his whole career. People that don’t think this is at least credible evidence are incredibly naive.

  • @saiyansfizz

    @saiyansfizz

    Жыл бұрын

    @Chando No one is talking about comparisons for the court though. This is a social issue. We treat social justice different than court justice. Evidence is treated differently in social situations. I think you know this. For example, Say you have a friend / girlfriend that frequents your house. Whenever they come over, you notice that things are suddenly missing. One day it's a phone charger, another day it's some money you left out on your desk in your room. You confront them about it and ask them, they deny it. They say I did not steal and you have no 'evidence' to believe I did do it. In this world (the world you're laying out in your comment) you have no moral justification in taking action in protecting your belongings from this person. Would you just say 'oh I guess so, you're right I don't have any evidence..' and move on? Would you go and buy cameras and put them all around your house so you can get evidence? Would you continue to allow them to steal your stuff? What happens when cameras can't solve this dilemma? What I would say to someone in such a situation is I don't need HARD evidence to confront you about it, and stop allowing you into my house. The circumstances surrounding my stuff going missing and you coming over happens way too often. Without a shadow of a doubt? This means zero in social situations. We take probability over 'without a shadow of a doubt'. Of course there's a chance the stuff was not stolen by the friend/girlfriend. But that's kind of irrelevant. I hope you're following this example, my point is the circumstances surrounding Hans is way too much of a 'coincidence' (having a cheater be his mentor, the accuracy of the games, PLUS the opinions of the GMs who closely observe the situation) to just be brushed off by someone like you as 'without a shadow of a doubt'. In social issues, we can take action even if its not 100%.

  • @DavidRodriguez-hh6kx

    @DavidRodriguez-hh6kx

    Жыл бұрын

    @@saiyansfizz it's not a social issue, it's in the courts now.

  • @saiyansfizz

    @saiyansfizz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DavidRodriguez-hh6kx It is a social issue. The 'court' issue that rose from it is irrelevant to what I was talking about. Just because something ends up in the court doesn't mean its not a social issue. Hans is taking Magnus to court for defamation ... not the other way around. Magnus is not taking Hans to court for cheating. My comment was talking about the validity of the view that Hans is a cheater That would be like the friend taking you to court over saying to other people that they're a thief... ( see my example ) ... it is a social issue still

  • @saiyansfizz

    @saiyansfizz

    Жыл бұрын

    @Chando Ok well I'm glad you admitted that you don't care about it. Us in the chess community do, as it's affecting the integrity of the game & sport in general. If you have been a part of chess for a long time (as I have) then you would care. So if you don't care, please just take a step back and don't just say things without any backing. If someone were to be cheating in baseball, basketball or any other spectator sport does this matter? Well it does for the people who invest the time and effort to follow these things. Social issue disingenuous? Not really. The original comment that you replied to was talking about 'credible evidence' in the terms of whether or not YOU should consider Hans a cheater. Nothing about 'the courts'. You were the one who brought up the courts (which is irrelevant because we're talking about a social issue) Even if we were talking about the court case, Hans is taking MAGNUS to court for DEFAMATION. not the other way around. I could understand if Magnus was taking Hans to court and then you label it a court issue. But it's not that way.

  • @sleuth2077

    @sleuth2077

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chando1603 it's circumstantial evidence and people have most definitely been convicted by juries on circumstantial evidence alone. Where there's smoke there's fire is a popular saying for a reason.

  • @onemorejoe1
    @onemorejoe1 Жыл бұрын

    This was so funny. “This was not the only thing Hikaru said”. Had me laughing quite hard, this whole satirical telling haha. Two thumbs up

  • @toriless

    @toriless

    Жыл бұрын

    Hikaru is not lacking for words on anything,

  • @oosmanbeekawoo

    @oosmanbeekawoo

    Жыл бұрын

    (You have to give _three_ thumbs up!)

  • @swyxTV

    @swyxTV

    Жыл бұрын

    *sips tea*

  • @RabbitConfirmed

    @RabbitConfirmed

    Жыл бұрын

    @@toriless he happens to be a streamer that plays chess at this point💀

  • @petea6904
    @petea6904 Жыл бұрын

    Start doing mini expose type pieces like this outside of chess, grow your brand...you tell a story very well, I would tune in for other stories but do it just like this

  • @john-carlosynostroza
    @john-carlosynostroza7 ай бұрын

    I'm a full-time professional magician/Illusionist, mind reader. I am also chess player. Cheating in a high-security tournament would be easy for me and my friends at the top of the magic business. Just sayin... the chess groups should hire us to watch over live tournaments. They are definitely missing potential technologies for passing data. In fact, wow there are numerous methods to use technology there are also brick-and-mortar methods combined with technology that are almost invisible to just about everybody other than absolute experts in the magic industry. ( I'm totally serious. So if somebody to reach out to discuss this further would be glad to)

  • @luisandraschnik3001

    @luisandraschnik3001

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes!! I was an amateur magician year ago . Paranormal claims and cheats vanishing when a competent magician is present. I love the story of James Randy's Alpha Project.

  • @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all

    @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all

    22 күн бұрын

    make a video doing so, record before you do it, record during the tournament and afterwards give your remarks, learn how to edit videos or get someone to edit them really well for you, then post on many chess boards and watch your video go viral. In no time you'll be getting phone calls to work for the big tournaments..

  • @uns33n

    @uns33n

    20 күн бұрын

    @@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all I don't think a member of the public would have the access required to find and document the potential methods.

  • @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all

    @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all

    20 күн бұрын

    @@uns33n wtf does that even mean a member of the public? make enough money to buy a camera and a computer to edit the video, search up chess tournaments, cheat, don't accept the money if its a cash tournament, then edit it and upload it, not that hard

  • @grandpatzer
    @grandpatzer Жыл бұрын

    Good job Andrea for showcasing this story in such a way that won't get you sued!

  • @michaelwalmsley7668

    @michaelwalmsley7668

    Жыл бұрын

    Or at least not for more than a million or two.

  • @jasonknight9679

    @jasonknight9679

    Жыл бұрын

    She could say anything she wants about Niemann and she wouldn't get sued. He is going after people and institutions that actually have some money.

  • @George_Jacob

    @George_Jacob

    Жыл бұрын

    You use "THEY SAID" or "ITS IS RUMORED" and nobody can sue you.

  • @yousuck6222

    @yousuck6222

    Жыл бұрын

    Tthe good thing about being poor is no-one can sue you for anything.

  • @jaysea142857

    @jaysea142857

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation, AB. Thanks.

  • @garretthorner
    @garretthorner Жыл бұрын

    Andrea sarcastically sipping the tea is comedy gold 😂

  • @toriless

    @toriless

    Жыл бұрын

    I imply NOTHING, I was just thirsty.

  • @quill444

    @quill444

    Жыл бұрын

    We desperately need a _Chess Tea and Analysis Moment with Andrea Botez_ . . . your weekly bedtime story show -- make it happen! ☕ 🍩 💚 - j q t -

  • @kevinmalone3210

    @kevinmalone3210

    Жыл бұрын

    Andrea is always comedy gold. Even without her sister. She's such a ham.

  • @ElEcodelTren

    @ElEcodelTren

    Жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @DoobieFerguson

    @DoobieFerguson

    11 ай бұрын

    @@quill444 Did you sign a KZread comment? wtf

  • @ubberJakerz
    @ubberJakerz Жыл бұрын

    This was incredibly well shot, edited, and delivered. Please give us more content like this! The end was hilarious 🤣

  • @31acruz
    @31acruz Жыл бұрын

    Andrea, you did a great job covering this. You are a natural broadcaster, that was professional quality that people twice your age can't pull off sometimes, well done! great job!

  • @obscurity3027
    @obscurity3027 Жыл бұрын

    This is a fantastic breakdown of exactly what happened step-by-step. A lot of news outlets don’t quite understand all the nuance of the story like you do because you’re in the chess community, you personally know these guys, and you understand the details. Really well done, Andrea!

  • @electricpaisy6045

    @electricpaisy6045

    Жыл бұрын

    I still missed the part about the plug though

  • @peterjames232

    @peterjames232

    Жыл бұрын

    Hans played chess with Andrea and tried a date after the game.

  • @spartanAXA

    @spartanAXA

    Жыл бұрын

    News outlets don't know about chess as much as Andrea

  • @jacobmarroquin9522

    @jacobmarroquin9522

    Жыл бұрын

    What details!! besides a step a step… how is Hans cheating??!?!? Where’s anyone’s evidence?? all she did was telling these people are in twitter war!

  • @mrkiky

    @mrkiky

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes she was personally hit on by Hans Nieman, quite awkwardly I might add. Also, I dunno what's been happening to Hans, but he looks like he aged 20 years in the last 2 years. He's younger than Andrea but she looks like she could be his daughter 😂

  • @rickygrenadier6303
    @rickygrenadier6303 Жыл бұрын

    This is truly one of the chess stories in the history of chess.

  • @TA_Outdoors

    @TA_Outdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    🆙 Thanks for watching🔝🔝 message right away I have something for you: 🆙🆙

  • @felixal

    @felixal

    Жыл бұрын

    thhis is a test DId they block me 1 2 3 test

  • @fredouz

    @fredouz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@felixal no

  • @Zobokolobozo

    @Zobokolobozo

    8 ай бұрын

    Idk Hans really is 2 suspicious of a character to be believed tbh. The fact that you speak 1 language ur entire life and then for no reason you turn into a 2 year into speaking english russian accent is way 2 crazy. That alone makes me think he is guilty.

  • @kev_mclernon_family_channe4745
    @kev_mclernon_family_channe4745 Жыл бұрын

    You often like to be silly in videos, but I think this presentation indicates that you have on-screen talents that can lead where you seek success, whether as a chess commentator or broadcast news. Cool stuff, I've followed this since the beginning since I followed the tournaments - but I was looking for a video I could share with my non-chess-playing friends, and you are the one, Thank you so much!! kev

  • @user-hi9jy5wy1m

    @user-hi9jy5wy1m

    2 ай бұрын

    Dude, she's never going to sleep with you. Stop embarrassing yourself.

  • @vinayaktripathi8307

    @vinayaktripathi8307

    Ай бұрын

    just shut up dude. she is not going to read this bs

  • @amcds2867
    @amcds2867 Жыл бұрын

    it makes sense he would take this to court seeing that apparently there is no concrete evidence to justify the decision to ban him and he's taking advantage of that, though i suspect foul play. i hope the truth comes out, whatever it is.

  • @Fauxkuhila
    @Fauxkuhila Жыл бұрын

    This was great. You should do more breakdowns like this. Current chess drama, historical chess drama...it would be great.

  • @luc1drats
    @luc1drats Жыл бұрын

    I was worried that this would be a bad look for Andrea because of her knowing Hans personally and all, but I loved how concise , to the point and fun it was to watch this. I think she should do more video commentaries, it suits her!

  • @jump_livefermata

    @jump_livefermata

    Жыл бұрын

    Uh… not

  • @chriskeith5742

    @chriskeith5742

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm with Jump, this was 12 mins wasted. In essence she just retold the timeline that has been reported all across the internet. Added absolutely nothing in regards.

  • @dougadams8057

    @dougadams8057

    Жыл бұрын

    Burner confirmed

  • @chriskeith5742

    @chriskeith5742

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dougadams8057You just gave yourself away, Luc

  • @elite3221

    @elite3221

    Жыл бұрын

    She also knows Magnus. So it's fair. Also this video is unbiased. Just showing what happened

  • @andrewdinns1746
    @andrewdinns1746 Жыл бұрын

    4:34 the fake accent cracks me up everytime.

  • @jovannysanchez
    @jovannysanchez Жыл бұрын

    I need to watch the next stream immedialy. Andrea being this calm for a whole 12 minutes is.... Please stream soon lmao XD

  • @speederbrad95
    @speederbrad95 Жыл бұрын

    Andrea should host a chess news show.

  • @jaybestnz

    @jaybestnz

    Жыл бұрын

    Alex and Andrea should.

  • @gundarsmiks4889

    @gundarsmiks4889

    Жыл бұрын

    Chess mews! Yes!

  • @Keatsounet

    @Keatsounet

    Жыл бұрын

    Not enough news in chess ^^

  • @johningle1

    @johningle1

    Жыл бұрын

    In lingerie.

  • @erohtarrath7549

    @erohtarrath7549

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johningle1 if you want to wear lingerie you can bro, embrace it

  • @satyakibiswas5315
    @satyakibiswas5315 Жыл бұрын

    Andrea rejected Hans Hans - enters into villan arc

  • @alanramos5322

    @alanramos5322

    Жыл бұрын

    Did she, tho

  • @DonCron
    @DonCron Жыл бұрын

    hm a good wrap up about the situation in a pretty short time. Well done!

  • @ThatguyJoshman
    @ThatguyJoshman4 ай бұрын

    Needed this summary... Great job!

  • @MrRyanxdavey
    @MrRyanxdavey Жыл бұрын

    Andrea is so much better like this than her hyper crazy antics. This is a fantastic format for her.

  • @peterjames232

    @peterjames232

    Жыл бұрын

    It's funny, we know she is loud, and suddenly she surprise us with this format, I like it.

  • @codevii9063

    @codevii9063

    Жыл бұрын

    I kind of like her hyper crazy antics, but yes, this was great too.

  • @noone-gf5op

    @noone-gf5op

    Жыл бұрын

    why not both? I think people naturally have more than one constant way of being. depending on mood, who we're with, what we do... I really liked this video and her concise story telling because it fits. I also think her hyper loud self is fun and fitting in more casual videos. if anything I find Botez content to be top tier because these two really know how to exist in both plains and do it right. so many influencers try to keep up a branded personality, but real people have a spectrum

  • @SixPathz
    @SixPathz Жыл бұрын

    Hans going out on a date with Andrea speaks for itself.

  • @LeqsoMaisuradze

    @LeqsoMaisuradze

    Жыл бұрын

    ahhaha

  • @pradiptosensarma1672

    @pradiptosensarma1672

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @XxxXxx-br7eq
    @XxxXxx-br7eq Жыл бұрын

    How can you say that it's extremely difficult to prove and then State as a fact that no one has gotten away with it at the top level?

  • @projectmo1352
    @projectmo135210 ай бұрын

    Did Hans cheat? - yes Do we have a proof - no

  • @earthling_parth

    @earthling_parth

    23 күн бұрын

    Who would want to touch that _proof_ though 😂

  • @jhudson_tiedye

    @jhudson_tiedye

    18 күн бұрын

    he actually admitted it, and was caught on multiple occasions

  • @teemupulkkinen5382
    @teemupulkkinen5382 Жыл бұрын

    Andrea is the chess journalist that we don’t deserve but the one we need. :) The ending of the video was excellent!

  • @sanchi1337

    @sanchi1337

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah with informations other youtubers already brought out 2 weeks ago lmao

  • @Bear8Photo

    @Bear8Photo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sanchi1337 ya dam drama frog! 🐸

  • @sanchi1337

    @sanchi1337

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Bear8Photo im just beeing honest and realistic

  • @mariogk90

    @mariogk90

    Жыл бұрын

    Simp

  • @ThaiOdessy

    @ThaiOdessy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sanchi1337 To those who don't play chess, this was an interesting and entertaining news presentation (plus it made you smile at the end).

  • @Karadjanov
    @Karadjanov Жыл бұрын

    She's half right. Cheating is difficult to prove. But the security measures are so behind that we don't even know how easy it may be to cheat on most tournaments.

  • @case6189

    @case6189

    Жыл бұрын

    That and a lot of these tournaments have serious prize money. Imagine being able to guarantee yourself a top 3 spot a few tournaments throughout the year, could be a couple hundred thousand $. Everything about Hans is a red flag he’s definitely cheated OTB and recently. Imo if you take the time to get creative and find a way to do it I don’t even think it’d be that difficult. Way too much technology for me to think it isn’t 100% possible in probably dozens of ways

  • @Karadjanov

    @Karadjanov

    Жыл бұрын

    @@case6189 That is absolutely correct! And what many people have pointed out is that these people (Hans in particular) are already very good at chess they do not need to cheat at every move. All it takes is 1 moment of outside help at the right time and he can win a game against a better player. The security measures need to be drastically updated and improved. I also hope that Hans burns his money and reputation in these lawsuits that he started. He had the chance to quit chess while it was still unclear and many people defended him and use the created controversy to his advantage and make a lot of money and have a good life but he is an egoistical and greedy sob and he deserves the worst

  • @molikeur

    @molikeur

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@case6189 But a part from the beads that would imply him making noise in a quiet room and learning some sort of morse code for the 64 squares and the pieces, what else is p r o b a b l e ?

  • @case6189

    @case6189

    Жыл бұрын

    @@molikeur why don’t you explain why a long time cheater and liar deserves the benefit of the doubt over the world champion

  • @case6189

    @case6189

    Жыл бұрын

    @@molikeur like I said there’s probably dozens of ways to cheat if you really wanted to. We can start with banning known cheaters and then decide how to run future tournaments. Doubt either will happen anytime soon

  • @felixchien1664
    @felixchien1664 Жыл бұрын

    Someone did an experiment with a chip being in a shoe. It was actually confirmed that a chip in a shoe can be undetected by metal detectors. Makes sense why airports require you to take off your shoes.

  • @theclutch19
    @theclutch1911 ай бұрын

    The fact that Hans winning ten perfect games is not beyond the realm of possibility will win him the lawsuit. Without proof, they all defamed him.

  • @Erebus369
    @Erebus369 Жыл бұрын

    His rapid rise in ranking makes me question his abilities and how it came to be. I'm not a chess player but it piqued my interest in playing.

  • @luciabotez3251
    @luciabotez3251 Жыл бұрын

    Nicely done Andrea! Informing, funny and good pace!

  • @douglasnelson4117

    @douglasnelson4117

    Жыл бұрын

    Pace. Keep the FACE

  • @lokolb
    @lokolb Жыл бұрын

    Andrea should do an in depth investigative video showing if and how those beads could work

  • @treborheminway3814
    @treborheminway3814 Жыл бұрын

    Unsurprisingly, you have a cunning way of mixing in some humor to this very serious story. Thanks for the summary and I hope you do updates.

  • @HYPERC666
    @HYPERC666 Жыл бұрын

    I just started learning chess a week ago from seeing your Lex interview. I'm getting annhilated every single go. But i'm addicted and i love it.

  • @FFadeaway

    @FFadeaway

    Жыл бұрын

    Keep trucking on, it gets better.

  • @HYPERC666

    @HYPERC666

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FFadeaway reminds me of when i started jiu jitsu. Being wrapped up like a sandwhich, not knowing what is happening

  • @anderslarsen4412

    @anderslarsen4412

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't give up! Chess is amazing! Think about it like this: You're not playing to win against the opponent, as much as you're playing to improve your game. The best players in the world still lose almost 50% of their games! (because they play opponents who have same skill). Everyone loses a lot in the beginning. But only some choose to fight and learn until they become good players!

  • @OIP_1
    @OIP_1 Жыл бұрын

    i feel like i've read and seen *way* too much about this story already but i still watched this, great storytelling andrea

  • @jasonbuksh2958
    @jasonbuksh29587 ай бұрын

    I wasn't sure - but the way that he talked through the game, not being specific and being very abstracted and vague - just shouts 'CHEAT"

  • @user-so8kx7uj2x
    @user-so8kx7uj2x Жыл бұрын

    I'm sure that he cheated. No way he managed to play 100%accuracy with so much stress involved, when the two greatest players of all time never managed to. He's not even at Kasparov's level!!!

  • @chali8762

    @chali8762

    Жыл бұрын

    True, true

  • @tardenov2968

    @tardenov2968

    Жыл бұрын

    100% accuracy? He and Andrea said reasone he won is that magnus played poorly in the game he played only about 40% top engine moves and that is small for a world champion it just wasnt his day it happens i have days when i play so poorly peoppe that are rated 300 points behind me can beat me and days when i go into god mode i had a tournament where i played poorly against weaker players one week later i went to another tournament and every player i played there was stronger than me and i was in 5th out of 50 il

  • @mikezaloznyy5613
    @mikezaloznyy5613 Жыл бұрын

    I am very impressed by how objective, concise and informative this video is. Great job!!!

  • @TA_Outdoors

    @TA_Outdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    🆙 Thanks for watching🔝🔝 message right away I have something for you: 🆙🆙

  • @mlinxl9090

    @mlinxl9090

    Жыл бұрын

    @teflontelefon yes that is objective it would seem

  • @Sam_on_YouTube
    @Sam_on_YouTube Жыл бұрын

    When people say Hans says he hasn't cheated since he was 16, they should provide the context that he's still only 19. It's not like it was ages ago.

  • @TA_Outdoors

    @TA_Outdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    🆙 Thanks for watching🔝🔝 message right away I have something for you: 🆙🆙

  • @danielyuan9862

    @danielyuan9862

    Жыл бұрын

    Ages 16, 17, 18, and now 19. It _was_ ages ago :D

  • @xxlCortez
    @xxlCortez8 ай бұрын

    Long story short: we don't know if he cheated but everything points toward that.

  • @SB737
    @SB737 Жыл бұрын

    This nicely summed the whole story up, saves me watching 20 videos to know everything now :)

  • @iiWongv

    @iiWongv

    Жыл бұрын

    yoo didn't expect to find you here keep up the hardcore!

  • @YellowDuckTheReal

    @YellowDuckTheReal

    Жыл бұрын

    Yoo SB i didn't expect you to be here lol wanna play a game of chess??

  • @oscarw1060

    @oscarw1060

    Жыл бұрын

    SB737!!!

  • @sebastiaanpeekstok4577

    @sebastiaanpeekstok4577

    8 ай бұрын

    Sb what is your elo

  • @hypertommy8851

    @hypertommy8851

    7 ай бұрын

    Lol last place I expected to find you

  • @dxnce7593
    @dxnce7593 Жыл бұрын

    I like How Andrea stayed unbiased here even tho she know Hans for ages & his friend! And She know Magnus too but still stayed unbiased

  • @justinthompson1757
    @justinthompson1757 Жыл бұрын

    The interviewer does what every interviewer does, remind the person of their known flaws but also mentions the positive.

  • @mattlambert3118
    @mattlambert3118 Жыл бұрын

    How would you know if no one has gotten away with cheating at the top level? If they got away with it, you wouldn't know they cheated.

  • @martinberit3558
    @martinberit3558 Жыл бұрын

    Well spoken, well structured.. you are getting serious, Andrea. Thanks

  • @currywhiskers
    @currywhiskers Жыл бұрын

    The most professionalism I've seen from Andrea. Jokes aside, this was a great summary.

  • @nathanbaker7603

    @nathanbaker7603

    Жыл бұрын

    What joke lol

  • @KeithCarunida
    @KeithCarunida Жыл бұрын

    What's up with the faux camera-shake in the punch-ins?

  • @lancecosmo8039
    @lancecosmo8039 Жыл бұрын

    The craziest chess story is him beating you and you ghosting him for the date

  • @lucinema
    @lucinema Жыл бұрын

    Do more things like this, Andrea, I would never in a million years have thought you would be good at something like this as you for some reason like to have your inside voice set to 100. But a calm and collected Andrea, Absolutely Fantastic

  • @betadecay6503

    @betadecay6503

    6 ай бұрын

    Why do so many people like you feel the need to insult her while pretending to compliment her? She is who she is, she's not gonna change just because some loser on KZread gave her a backhanded compliment. "I would never in a million years have thought you would be good at something like this..." Seriously? Why are you like this?

  • @lucinema

    @lucinema

    6 ай бұрын

    @@betadecay6503 ahhh I don't believe I was giving her a backhanded compliment, do you even watch the Botez sisters? Andrea has always been a very hyper active and loud individual and we love her for that and this was a new style of content that she released that was a delightful surprise as we had not seen her in this light. Me asking for more content like this was out of appreciation of how amazing of a job she did in this video. Sorry if my words came across negative that was not my intention :P

  • @betadecay6503

    @betadecay6503

    6 ай бұрын

    @@lucinema Fair enough if it wasn't your intention but I don't see how this is not a backhanded compliment. You literally told her you didn't think she was capable of being serious. I'd argue that if you didn't know Andrea was capable of this then you do not watch her enough. She's good at everything she puts her mind to...except protecting her queen.

  • @DanielBoonelight

    @DanielBoonelight

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lucinema good gracious the world is so full of males voicing that females are *too much* and should be *less than* what they most naturally are. props to andrea for not making herself smaller to fit in anyone's boring a*% boxes.

  • @jaybestnz
    @jaybestnz Жыл бұрын

    This is a good summary from Andrea, you can tell that the script is super careful to not say anything that they could get surf for, but to me, while the mathematical tools that show how insanely improbable so many of these events were and how not only has a boy with little sign of prodigy, after being coached by a known cheat, and cheating online regularly (believed to be around 100+ times) leaps to performing better than any person in history. Many games are at a level exceeding any player in history. Also, strangely, apart from an insane leap in performance during the few years since, unlike any other player at this level, he fails to continue to improve at all. Eg if you stack all players in history that are at that level we're prodigies at a very young age, showed genius and beating masters while under 10, then dedicated decades to gradually improving and even improving after hitting international level. Vs a known cheater, of mdoerate ability, skipping all prize games for 6 months and comes back as the best in the world and never improves since. Also, the post match interview showed an extreme lack of memory for the game just played and numerous statements of plays he considered, and most of those were losing options and he seemed to have zero awareness of this. Also, His gameplay over the board is highly erratic, dropping to his pre "miracle" level and then far exceeding the best players in the world. Also, he stated that he had prepped that particular extremely rare opening the day before in a miracle of luck. This open is so utterly rare, and Magnus has only ever played that open 1 time, when he was 7 years old. Many of his interviews also seem to contain very strange and mismatched / guilty sounding replies. The new accent. The cheating, then lying about it being only 2 games... I have been open to both options and if its a miracle - amazing. But just looking at this from a mathematical probability perspective, on balance I feel comfy that he is cheating. And I base that on the maths of the games. The chess speaks for itself.

  • @user-hi9jy5wy1m

    @user-hi9jy5wy1m

    2 ай бұрын

    One thing is clear from all of his interviews: Hans is an average player at best and doesn't know much about the game.

  • @jaybestnz

    @jaybestnz

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-hi9jy5wy1m Agreed. And we have some months of that same person, mathematically, playing better than any human who has ever played, happening after he was known to be cheating, and also after being coached my a famous cheater. I feel comfortable that this points to cheating. If it wasn't cheating, it is statistically as unlikely as his insane change of form.

  • @fyru_zero6344
    @fyru_zero634411 ай бұрын

    bro i dont understand, how do you use a cheat engine in a boardgame(irl), like how does it works? vibrating when sees a good move? i dont understand pls tell me

  • @vaishnavsuresh7043

    @vaishnavsuresh7043

    Ай бұрын

    Apparently vibrates in morse code

  • @edoson01
    @edoson01 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for presenting the story end-2-end so clearly!

  • @whatsup24_7
    @whatsup24_7 Жыл бұрын

    Andrea is always funny but she's well spoken as well.

  • @Piperitum

    @Piperitum

    Жыл бұрын

    Is she ... she isn't able to use words ...

  • @MrJungle123

    @MrJungle123

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude, she's averagely spoken.

  • @bolts3catch

    @bolts3catch

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, kinda wish I was listening to Alex tbh

  • @whatsup24_7

    @whatsup24_7

    Жыл бұрын

    You clowns can always go to other channels. Nobody here will miss you. Looks like many people agree with my statement. Yours, not so much.

  • @buymore6288

    @buymore6288

    Жыл бұрын

    Andrea speaks for itself

  • @AR-mu2rz
    @AR-mu2rz Жыл бұрын

    $100 million dollar lawsuit...A Million for Each Time he was caught Cheating LOL

  • @spectator5144

    @spectator5144

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @joediditde
    @joediditde Жыл бұрын

    All beads aside, isn't Hans still owed a date with Andrea?

  • @johannesincalifornia
    @johannesincalifornia9 ай бұрын

    You cheat once, you're a cheater. Reputation gone by character judgement. Even if you don't cheat later, no-one believes you.

  • @utkarshdubey282
    @utkarshdubey282 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like that date with Hans went quite serious. Anyways brilliantly uncovered the story with least amount of bias, someone needed to make this kind of video.

  • @seamus9305
    @seamus9305 Жыл бұрын

    This story is the best. I knew all that stuff but Andrea did such a good, concise, compelling job that I had to listen again.

  • @elliottFamily2
    @elliottFamily2 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your keeping this PG. Great video.

  • @diosdadoapias
    @diosdadoapias Жыл бұрын

    It is not how perfect your move is but your tactics or strategy. War in the board could be liken to a war in a battlefield where there may be wrong places for the right unit or wrong unit for the right places but does not affect the total out come of the battle because most of the tactical or strategic moves are in right places hence some blunders may be compensated by a strong move or tactics. In Chess a Tal-like sacrifice could be imprecise but it does the work or purpose still.

  • @siddhaarthanad479
    @siddhaarthanad479 Жыл бұрын

    Always wanted to know what the full story is about this issue, and this is exactly what i needed :P

  • @davidreim4609
    @davidreim4609 Жыл бұрын

    As someone on the very outer fringes of chess, I would like to say that that was very informative and very well done.

  • @pradyumna25
    @pradyumna258 ай бұрын

    When you can't win, just destroy the opponent 😆😆

  • @spidaman0112
    @spidaman0112 Жыл бұрын

    His comments on looking at an opening before a game then it coming up happens often..

  • @deanwilliams433
    @deanwilliams433 Жыл бұрын

    Andrea's voice sounds very nice when she is not yelling :D

  • @toriless

    @toriless

    Жыл бұрын

    but she usually is

  • @r.griesche3052
    @r.griesche3052 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Much more valuable than the usual trash talk blitz recordings.

  • @musicvideoadmin6960
    @musicvideoadmin6960 Жыл бұрын

    I love how Andrea just pauses after a sentence and takes a sip of tea.

  • @adilshekh8879
    @adilshekh887910 ай бұрын

    11:24 "My lawsuit speaks for itself". 😂 what a legend

  • @AnaCristinaG
    @AnaCristinaG Жыл бұрын

    No new information for me. I really loved that you didn’t “ forgot” any detail, because, details really matters. You we’re honest and not bias to any side. Good job Andrea! Loved every second! ( the one thing I don’t understand on this all storyline is, if Magnus thought that Hans was a cheater in Saint Luis how didn’t he had the same point of view 10 days earlier in Miami and played him like nothing is wrong!??? Can someone please have a theory!????? I’m dying here!!!!)

  • @Factacious

    @Factacious

    Жыл бұрын

    A quote from Hikaru that sound like a good explanation. "Probably when he saw Hans’s play in Miami, and on the beach…it didn’t match with the level of the play in the actual event, when you combine it with the long-existing rumours, Magnus became convinced something was off". I will say that it is a case of enough is enough. Personally, I think the evidence is overwhelming. I hope you survive and prosper :)

  • @bl8896

    @bl8896

    Жыл бұрын

    Money... my best guess is that whole beach fiasco was to give the public what they wanted and they probably offered too much $ to turn down, why else would they do it

  • @stvcolwill

    @stvcolwill

    Жыл бұрын

    to my knowledge, Magnus has never intimated that Hans actually cheated AT the Sinqfield. This very well could have been an extension of his disagreement (along with others) of allowing him to even play as a sub in in the tourney in the first place. Given Hans' history as a cheater which most high level players new about, it's very plausible that Magnus didn't even want to be across the board from a known cheater (phyche mess). It's hard mind-bendingly enough to play in a legendary tourney at that level, let alone with the added (tons of) weight of facing a known cheater over the board. This whole thing quite well may have been a zero-tolerance stance on cheaters by Magnus.

  • @adrianioancucuiet346
    @adrianioancucuiet346 Жыл бұрын

    OMG i love the way you present things, i think you would be a great presenter!!!

  • @joshuademmers4947
    @joshuademmers4947 Жыл бұрын

    This was a clear, concise story and unbiased from what I can tell, I am very impressed, you earned my subscribe today with this article

  • @saintsataniko2116
    @saintsataniko2116 Жыл бұрын

    1:00 OMG "The chess world is LITERALLY on fire!" That is far worse than any cheating scandal. These people are on fire, or their boards are at least. Is no one going to put them out???

  • @zachowland
    @zachowland Жыл бұрын

    I think you meant "5 championship matches in a row", not "5 years in a row".

  • @dronel1637
    @dronel1637 Жыл бұрын

    Wow this was actually a brilliant video. full of relevant information, presented well, some lighthearted jokes that were fitting, to be completely honest, i did not expect this. most recent videos on your channel (i'm just telling my personal view and dont want to offend) lean heavily into the clickbait/look at this girl niche, but this was great. thank you.

  • @robertwilson3866
    @robertwilson386611 ай бұрын

    That Wesley guy is defending his name "Wesley...SO?!"

  • @mlukman7036
    @mlukman7036 Жыл бұрын

    how it can be marked as "cheating scandal" if we are not even able to prove it 🤨

  • @DreamerHCF

    @DreamerHCF

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean he did cheat only therefore the title is not wrong

  • @spnhm34
    @spnhm34 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how it is we know that no one has cheated in over the board games and got away with it. Head hurts.

  • @rkm237
    @rkm237 Жыл бұрын

    Your 30sec videos are great and entertaining. Your LONGER videos are truly AWESOME, though, so keep them coming. :)

  • @songwrite
    @songwrite Жыл бұрын

    The LAWSUIT GAMBIT! Courageous to do this video given the current situation, hans really be playing chess irl - the lawsuit gambit

  • @H0LYSM0KES
    @H0LYSM0KES Жыл бұрын

    2:01 dude thinks he's a main character in an anime 🤣

  • @RickBrown1975
    @RickBrown1975 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video! I love these non Chess playing videos , I hope you keep doing more!

  • @demetsentvrk
    @demetsentvrk Жыл бұрын

    Andrea you need to make more videos like this hahaha so good!

  • @miv_cleric
    @miv_cleric10 ай бұрын

    How can the chess world be literally on fire?

  • @Spironic
    @Spironic Жыл бұрын

    1:19 “To this day, no one has gotten away with it at the top level.” A bit tautological, no? If we knew someone had ‘gotten away with it’, they wouldn’t have gotten away with it?

  • @toryspelling7737
    @toryspelling7737 Жыл бұрын

    I've followed the whole scandal but the commentary here is just great. Very witty and entertaining!

  • @spencerhorne5627
    @spencerhorne5627 Жыл бұрын

    The defaymation case speaks for itself

  • @Godsecution

    @Godsecution

    Жыл бұрын

    They know who they are, they can speak for themselves.

  • @stevenevenshow2790
    @stevenevenshow2790 Жыл бұрын

    In the Fischer random WC, the Norwegian broadcasting team were continuously able to smuggle all kinds of devices that can be used for cheating.

  • @petrucci22
    @petrucci22 Жыл бұрын

    Having suspiciously perfect accurate games, without having the ability to explain your moves to an interviewer is more than enough to me… and for Magnus for that matter. Hans is a criminal mastermind who is able to cheat over the board bypassing all security measures… but he’s certainly cheating for the aforementioned reason above.

  • @robertwilson3866

    @robertwilson3866

    Жыл бұрын

    He admitted cheating in the past twice . Why stop then? That is all you need to know really. Most people who are gifted at chess wouldn't even bother cheating. You need to a be a particular type of person with no morals or empathy to do it

  • @anjangaki
    @anjangaki Жыл бұрын

    There's an inaccuracy in the beginning of the video. In the FTX crypto cup it's true that Hans didn't score a single point but he also beat every single player in that tournament except Alireza. So, he didn't exactly get thrashed and he's perfectly capable of beating super grandmasters in a game.

  • @justinwilliams2381
    @justinwilliams2381 Жыл бұрын

    7:04-7:30 I knew Andrea's response was coming, but it was still hilarious 😂

  • @toriless

    @toriless

    Жыл бұрын

    It felt shorter than most of their videos but I doubt it was.

  • @ludomirsteinbruck9376

    @ludomirsteinbruck9376

    Жыл бұрын

    @@toriless If hikaru says he is only saying one thing, we all know he is going on and and on

  • @teomartini1105
    @teomartini110510 ай бұрын

    Accusing someone without evidence is slander

  • @ErickRiga01
    @ErickRiga017 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the info my dear

  • @aliawada1126
    @aliawada1126 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, the best summary we got from all chess creators

  • @-emshalinka-4773
    @-emshalinka-4773 Жыл бұрын

    i didn’t realize how many crypto sponsors there are for chess tournaments

  • @HFBeep
    @HFBeep Жыл бұрын

    The reason no one has been documented to get away with cheating at the top level is bcuz they weren’t caught 💀

  • @HFBeep

    @HFBeep

    Жыл бұрын

    Btw by saying this I am not saying the top players are cheaters, just to clarify.

  • @alexking2599
    @alexking2599 Жыл бұрын

    The $100 mil dollar figure is meaningless. You can sue for $1bil, but if you can't prove that your damages were in that range, then you won't get awarded the full amount if you win the lawsuit. The most he can expect to win would be the sum of all tournament winnings that he could've won from any tournaments he has been banned from, possibly revenue from publicity, and maybe income he might be able to claim from hikaru from exploiting and profitting off the defamation. Side note, I would love to watch more journalist videos from andrea, this was great!

  • @DownfallHitlerParody

    @DownfallHitlerParody

    Жыл бұрын

    Tell that to Alex Jones - no way were his conspiracy theories worth $1 billion in damages but a biased judge still ordered him to pay. Not saying that will happen in this particular case but it does happen at times.

  • @davidm.9510
    @davidm.9510 Жыл бұрын

    Andrea, nicely done! I followed this story in the media early as it unfolded, then watched a couple of other KZreadrs analysis. You went back in his history and summarized how it unfolded.

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