And he died at 64, one year for every square on the board. Poetic.

@silversolver7809

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was my thought too-how very appropriate.

@aceaids4000

2 жыл бұрын

@@silversolver7809 did you mean it was your... thoughty 2?

@miuchan107

2 жыл бұрын

thats dedication

@renalazuardi3512

2 жыл бұрын

omg yes

@octobsession3061

2 жыл бұрын

That explais how Fischer had his "white" and "dark" side

You know who really stands out in this story? Boris Spasky. What a great sportsman and concerned opponent. Outstanding!

@keithbessant

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, he must have known the Soviets wouldn't be happy about not taking every chance he could to take the title.

@scottaseigel5715

2 жыл бұрын

@@keithbessant Perhaps, but I believe Spasky was ALSO a truly decent human being. The USSR (as Russia does today) possessed lots of tools for disposing of inconvenient “problems” and had few issues with doing so (more like US than I’d like to admit). Fischer was totally quirky, but he was also highly respected for his brilliance (probably the very most by Spasky).

@jackdurden466

2 жыл бұрын

I agree completely, and I also think he wasn’t going to miss any opportunities to beat him. So without the challenge, he’d have been given the title without an actual feeling of accomplishment. But I do feel that it may have been more balanced towards being a good sport.

@jaylo9421

2 жыл бұрын

It wouldnt have been decisive if boris let bobby off the hook. Still he, as most chess players back then, was a good sportsman, and he paid for it psychologically through the match and later by the government that once supported him. Bobby must be praised for demanding the extra prize money since the prize up until then was a thousand dollars, mainly to keep any non russian from going after it seriously, and as for the Russian players, they were supported and subsidized by the communists

@unwnme

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottaseigel5715 I rarely see an American condemn or even try to admit the atrocities their country has committed, unless they are radicals. You don't radiate any radical vibes in that way (radical might be a good thing sometimes sure, but not in this case). Good for you and those like you. =) Have a good life sir!

My grandfather taught me how to play chess as a kid. He was ruthless. Never once did he allow me to win. We played for YEARS before I was able to beat him. The day I won I can picture the rickety kitchen table and cheap laminate floor sitting in the corner of my grandparents old farm house down to the last detail. He fell down a bottle when my grandmother past away. Such a kind and brilliant man. I am 39 now and have taught both of my sons to play the game.

For people curious about the winning streak Fischer won 20 games in a row But in todays time they often make it sound like magnus had a winning streak of a lot of games which are typically very impressive but there are draws in his. Magnus streak is just him going without losing however here Fischer is only winning which is insane

@KKSuited

9 ай бұрын

Magnus did it in the age of engines, which is arguably much more difficult. The players, on average, are much stronger than in Fischer's generation, although people would argue the opposite is true.

@bossman4112

9 ай бұрын

@@KKSuited yup that’s a fair point but I think since neither side has an engine maybe u could say engines are negligible but I feel like your right in the fact that once engines came more draws also came 😂

@artemtheidiot

8 ай бұрын

​@@bossman4112Magnus and Nakamura have both complained that chess bots like StockFish have ruined the world of chess. Instead of it being a game of strategy and wits its now a game of who can remember the stockfish moves the best, and thats it leading to boring drawn out games. Theres no more creativity in tournaments anymore. Its why Magnus wishes they would bring back 960 chess

@teddyjackson1902

8 ай бұрын

@@KKSuitednah.

@KingGogh

8 ай бұрын

Capablanca won 40 straight. Absolutely amazing. Edit: my bad...he won 40 straight tournament games. Still, a feat that no one else has, or will ever accomplish

Mad respects for Spassky. He could have easily gone to be a bitter enemy, hostile and happy that the one guy who could regularly beat him in his profession was going through rough times. Instead, he accepted some ridiculous demands, campaigned to get his enemy out of jail and exile and, when that failed, OFFERED TO JOIN HIM IN PRISON. Spassky was a true sportsman and friend, through and through.

@gotensan608

2 жыл бұрын

the sport they were into made them such a companion that really understand each other

@Ray-Of-Sunshine

2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could have a friend like that. He brought actual tears to my eyes.

@nkumar1

2 жыл бұрын

The real hero of this story is Spassky

@NukeGaza2024

2 жыл бұрын

Would he have done the same if he was Jewish or a woman? I have zero sympathy for bigots

@lyravain6304

2 жыл бұрын

​@@NukeGaza2024 He did what he did because he was a fellow sportsman -despite him being half-Jew in a time and place where simply KNOWING someone from that culture would get you legally shot dead. And if you're referring to Bobby; he was the way he was because A) he was likely autistic (also; possibly OCD) B) isolated and C) thrown away by his own mother so she could pursue her job. Not to mention D) probably had to hear a lot of people say he was, shall we say, "half-breed" (avoiding the other word because auto-censoring exists). I might not agree with his views but I can very easily see how he came across them. Take your 1st world modern sensibilities and re-examine the point where they led you to 'other' and 'have zero sympathy' for people that are different from you. Oh and to block the screech I'm predicting; not telling you to forgive, but to sympathize.

Spassky is the definition of a true sportsman. The respect shown for his competitor is unrivaled in any other sport. He didn’t even let the Soviet Us relations tarnish his views.

@cryostatcells5642

2 жыл бұрын

He knew that "genius", as a trait, has some very demanding needs. You got to meet those demands, no questions asked. That's the way of a genius.

@sathishtamil7481

2 жыл бұрын

@@cryostatcells5642 garbage , everyone liked fischers demand , he brought a lot of money to chess and made the game a profession , all soviet players had a real job unlike fischer who played only chess

@cryostatcells5642

2 жыл бұрын

@@sathishtamil7481 I was talking about the quite room demand. What are you even blabbering about?

@brandonturner4113

2 жыл бұрын

It's damn beautiful

@exquisitecorpse4917

2 жыл бұрын

Spassky is by far my favorite chess player. Beautiful games, beautiful sportsmanship, and (by all reports) a genuinely good person.

To put that 20 game win streak into context, the two greatest players of all time, Kasparov and Carlsen, both have 6 wins as their longest classical win streak, and Karpov, another top 5 all time player who succeeded fischer as world champion (and lost to kasparov) also has 6. One of today's best players Fabiano Caruana achieved 7 in a row at a tournament which is literally the greatest performance in modern chess. Fischer did 3 times that

@SamuraiAtlas

6 ай бұрын

It’s a lot harder know then Fischers time chess engines have made chess more difficult back then you had to play chess physically and pretty much only then know you can play chess from the comfort of your home chess know is a lot more difficult Fischer no lifed chess during his time he would play it all day there’s a huge gap during his time a chess elo of 800 was the average chess elo currently a 1500-1700 is the average elo that record is impossible to do at this current time place magnus in that era and trust me he would be near or equal if not past that

@noahpalmer6653

6 ай бұрын

@@SamuraiAtlas I agree it its impossible now. But the record is still crazy. Average elo is not 1500-1700

@SamuraiAtlas

6 ай бұрын

@@noahpalmer6653 search it up currently average is 1500-1700 in competitive chess

@dannygjk

6 ай бұрын

@@SamuraiAtlas You can't use Elo to prove something when comparing different eras.

@SamuraiAtlas

6 ай бұрын

@@dannygjk smh 🤦‍♂️ elo is a rating that’s what it’s for it’s common sense that current chess players are a lot better then the last eras it’s not even an argument

My teacher, Joan Targ, was his older sister. She shaped young minds for many decades. Her son Nick went to the same high school and university I did. He was regarded as a genius like his mother and uncle.

@marcusgenz4020

7 ай бұрын

I am happy to hear this.

@Hg-vl6fk

6 ай бұрын

his entire family also went to school with me

@STEAMerBear

6 ай бұрын

@@Hg-vl6fk Cool. In Palo Alto?

@Toiyf.

6 ай бұрын

​@@STEAMerBearpretty sure they're joking

@STEAMerBear

6 ай бұрын

@@Toiyf. Thank you

I remember watching an interview with Fischer and he mentioned how during matches even the wrong lighting would throw him off. Definitely seems like he might have had sensory issues that weren’t well understood at the time.

@gloriadeb

Жыл бұрын

After searching more about him, I thought so too! he’s def not neuro-typical

@scarcedude3353

Жыл бұрын

@@gloriadeb Haha, most Chess GM's aren't. He just happens to be a famous one who went off the grid

@r.n.holmes5625

Жыл бұрын

@@scarcedude3353 being different doesn't give you the right to be a racist psycho. I don't know. Maybe if they knew more about that, they could have helped him. But it still doesn't excuse what he did.

@neetocracy

Жыл бұрын

@@r.n.holmes5625 Yeah your opinion is probs more correct than the literal genius 180 iq person. Most definitely

@scarcedude3353

Жыл бұрын

​@@r.n.holmes5625 Never implied that mental illness justified his behavior. That's why it's called a mental illness after all - his ideologies and beliefs cannot be compared to those perceived as normal. In any case, most chess grandmasters are fine, and are leading perfectly normal lives. Bobby Fischer was one of the unlucky ones who didn't have the privilege of having a nurturing childhood; his early experiences furthering his extremes. Who knows, if it weren't for his radical behavior and obsessive mind, he might have never made a name for himself in the chess community. Just be aware that you cannot explain the behavior of someone that does not think the same as you, as you can only justify it with your "normal" brain. It is much different for the unfortunate Bobby. His behavior is nonsensical from your perspective, but from his, it is all he has known. Don't take his actions and words to heart. He was a troubled man.

Spasky was honestly the mvp of the story with giving into Fischers demands to ensure he got a fair shot to prove his title even though he was being pressured to win at all costs by the soviet union, just because he respected him. Plus even though Fischer went off grid for like twenty years, Spasky was willing to go out of his way to play with him again. Then to try and personally protest for his release from prison and even ask to stay in his cell to play chess with him, just because he respected his skill so much.

@119Agent

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Spasky wasn't just in awe of his skill, he knew Fischer was troubled and wasn't well mentally.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

chess players be like that. chess grand masters were huge celebrities in the soviet union, they knew that they could get away with a lot more than other soviet citizens. in fact, top chess players HAD TO be treated well by the state because they had plenty of freedom to travel that they could have used to request asylum somewhere else and then play chess for another country (well, unless they had relevant family in the soviet union to leverage against them) - that would have been a propaganda disaster! for the soviet union, chess was like having a gold medal subscription in an olympic discipline that implies that your country is the smartest. the soviets were very interested in olympic medals too (and world leaders in doping xD), but winning at chess was better PR than any other sport could ever be.

@commenttuff8891

Жыл бұрын

A good man from the SU.

@DjayyTV1

Жыл бұрын

He had respect for his opponent greatness. No hating 💪🏽💯

@nonyobussiness3440

Жыл бұрын

Fischer was mind fucking him. Fischer threw the first game.

It's natural to strive to become like the best at a profession, however the story about Fischer's life has made me value the importance of one's character in tandem with proficiency way more than before. Spassky, despite losing, has definitely earned my respect.

@FermisAxiom

Ай бұрын

Character will make your own life better while living. But proficiency will immortalize you, regardless of your character. Having both is ideal ofc.

Spassky was very thoughtful and respectful to his opponent.

Spasky wanting to be imprisoned with his rival as long as they’re given a chessboard is really moving. He really lived for the game.

@daarom3472

Жыл бұрын

The question posed in the video is misleading. A better question would be why not every chess prodigy/legend goes insane dedicating so much of their lives and brain space toward the mastery of a very narrow finite game.

@sunnyhill5119

Жыл бұрын

@@daarom3472 Amen to that

@carewser

Жыл бұрын

His name is "Spassky" but yeah, Boris was clearly a better person than Bobby so the Russkies won that one

@jeffersonott4357

Жыл бұрын

Boris sounds like a awesome dude

@camir2747

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffersonott4357 he was so classy to give in to fischer unreasonable demands, even though he'd end up losing it... i like it that russians seem less "entitled" where they go... they just do the hard work and shut up!

Boris spassky was such a nice guy, not taking the tittle of the worlds best just to have a fair match with Bobby, and even going to his jail cell just to play with him, it's just great how he never gave up on beating him

@Ok-_-719

Жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@ZxAMobile

Жыл бұрын

He was not just a great guy he was a true champion, somebody who is absolutely obsessed with being the best in the world does not care about titles fame or money at all literally 0%. They want to find out if they are the best at any means possible and when they meet somebody who is better than them they begin to idolize them because they could possibly learn from that person and or they are so impressed by the person that they become a super fan of that person because they understand just how good they are. This is why Bobby didn’t care about forfeiting matches because he knew he was by far the best player and these events were below him as well as every other player. A title is meaningless to the reality. A title is something somebody/organization gives you who is below you and doesn’t understand what they are even talking about. Somebody who dedicates their entire waking existence (16 hour days), even when they dream in their sleep, knows that they are the best and if they meet somebody who is better than them it is an extremely exciting and life-changing experience and it makes you realize that there is almost always somebody out there who is better than you or on your level even if they have never been at a tournament or nobody has heard about them. Source: Former serial world champion in multiple video games for 20 year time span.

@storm_1620

Жыл бұрын

@@ZxAMobile who was that world champion?

@justarandomguy1808

Жыл бұрын

that dude's a real g

@deadprank243

Жыл бұрын

@@justarandomguy1808soviet chess was not simply a game but a lifestyle to its players

It seems like whatever we learned from about age 5 until age 10 is what we end up being best at. Bobby's obsession came at the right time. Not being shown "how" to play and being forced to learn from the ruleset alone, I think helped as well, so that he had a full understanding for his obsession to thrive within.

@twincherry4958

9 ай бұрын

Playing outside at that age...still good at that😅

@user-xt5mn4fg5g

6 ай бұрын

Most people don't have a clue what they're best at by 10. That's utter nonsense

I applaud your eloquence and the insightful depth of your script in thisdocumentary. Very impressive.

Spassky deserves so much respect for what he did. Fischer was rude to so many people, possibly even Spassky. Most people would never talk to him again from there but Spassky, he went to great lengths to make sure Fischer felt happy and comfortable. A real mature man, Spassky was.

@edition-deluxe

Жыл бұрын

From Spasky's viewpoint, it was like 'finally a worthy opponent'.

@cropeverything1152

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Fisher was that bad. You might know he had friendship with Tal

@louisedgewick107

Жыл бұрын

@@cropeverything1152 he was a known anti-Semite and sexist. I think he was that bad

@JGldmn333

Жыл бұрын

Dont forget Spassky was representing the whole Soviet Union too. So he did not want to let all those people down. Or go to the Gulag if he did really poorly. Ie- he was doing what he was told. Some of it may have come naturally. But most of that was because of his CCCP handlers. Everything was political in those days in Russia.

@crusaderman4043

Жыл бұрын

Spassky had a chip on his shoulder, and thought Bobby was trying to weasel his way out of the series so he wouldn't lose. Spassky wanted to beat him without a shadow of a doubt, so he could be the undisputed greatest chess player in the world. Needless to say, Spassky grew to respect and admire Fischer. I'm sure Fischer did too but the dude was too damn crazy to know for sure.

imagine if his sister bought a snakes and ladders boards instead

@bhumiraksmith4656

Жыл бұрын

He will be hacking the matrix to manipulate the dice to land where he wanted it to.

@maggiepaul5911

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@FLdancer00

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like he would have dominated capitalism then.

@MortanAMrk

Жыл бұрын

@@FLdancer00 Nah hed turn into a god like bear grylls

@tstjmiller

Жыл бұрын

Eels and escalators

When you play over Bobby's brilliant Queen sacrifice against Donald Byrne in 1956, you marvel at the fact that a thirteen-year-old kid could see that far ahead. But then you realize that that kid had a genius I. Q., a photographic memory, and basically played and studied chess every day.

@memegazer

10 ай бұрын

People always have this misconception that IQ score has anything to do with chess despite numerous studies showing they are not coorelated. This means either chess skill is not a measure of intelligence...or IQ test are not a complete representation of intelligence.

@steelers6titles

10 ай бұрын

@@memegazer Well, I'm not a child psychologist or human-development expert. Chess requires concrete reasoning ability, and the ability to see 17 or 18 moves ahead, at least on the grandmaster level. I don't think too many top players today have average, or even merely somewhat-above-average, I.Q.s. But I get it. No direct relationship. The fact that Fischer did nothing else throughout his life, and his memory capacity, certainly were fundamental factors in contributing to his strength over the board.

@memegazer

10 ай бұрын

@@steelers6titles The point I am making is that I think IQ tests only give a limited amount of data about human intellectual capacity. Take the current super GM Hikaru for example...on a stream at one point he took an IQ score and was basically pointed out as average. But on another stream he took the human benchmark test and scored in the 99 percentile. IMO I think people put too much stock into IQ scores as being some kind of comprehensive biometric of intelligence. I think it is probably safer to assume that IQ scores only measure some portion of human intellectual capacity rather than an exhaustive and overall general measure.

@steelers6titles

10 ай бұрын

@@memegazer Well, I won't disagree with you.

@werrkowalski2985

10 ай бұрын

@@memegazer Can you give me a single study that support your claim that IQ and performance at chess are unrelated? If Hikaru didn't try hard it is no surprise that he got average, I think he must have above average IQ. I don't think the relation between chess performance and IQ is simple, but there is a relation.

Just found your channel today. I like listening to the manner you tell stories. I know it can help improve my vocabulary and my english thought and speech process

One thing that this video fails to mention, is that many of Fischer's complaints about playing conditions were valid criticisms, and that many of the changes that were made to meet his demands are considered standard today.

@RTU130

2 жыл бұрын

Ye

@BananaPhoPhilly

2 жыл бұрын

Such as keeping the press out of the room right?

@impishlyit9780

2 жыл бұрын

@@BananaPhoPhilly I'm fairly certain that's due to social anxiety - he felt it affected his play because he couldn't handle being watched so closely and felt judged by the masses.

@GudieveNing

2 жыл бұрын

@@impishlyit9780 Exactly.

@chance2413

2 жыл бұрын

Fischer was not crazy at all. He started calling out the people who run the world, so THEY called him crazy. He was 100% spot on with everything he said

"The difference between genius and insanity is measured only by success"

@dububro

Жыл бұрын

He was pretty successful

@janapreful

Жыл бұрын

@@dububro Does not make him insane.

@hyperspacejester7377

Жыл бұрын

Difference between crazy and eccentric is your bank balance.

@ABandCalledStoned

Жыл бұрын

That sounds like something Doc (Back to the Future) would say. Or at least in my mind, when I read this, that's the voice I heard and face I saw. Lol

@TheSilmarillian

Жыл бұрын

Valid point indeed

beautiful documentary. remarkable narration. superb 👏👏👏

Thank you. A wonderful presentation.

My dad tried to teach me chess, I was only 10, he was 52. I picked up the moves of the pieces easily. Halfway through our first game he said “Do you have a strategy or are you just making moves at random?” I said “Making moves at random.” He boxed up the pieces and that was that. I later turned out to be a terrific poker player 😁

@bugglemagnum6213

2 жыл бұрын

Of course anyone learning the game is gonna button mash, you have to see what works and what doesn't

@upisntdownsilly

2 жыл бұрын

@@bugglemagnum6213 not rlly, like with no initial knowledge of the game and just being taught how the pieces move and the goal it doesnt take like some genius prodigy to realise moving pieces randomly wont win u the game

@sea_triscuit7980

2 жыл бұрын

Your last statement leads me to believe you were actually a chess genius but didn't want to hurt your dad's feelings so you lied... 😆

@eeeeee8762

2 жыл бұрын

@@upisntdownsilly I don’t know, I usually somehow beat whoever I play against with confusion unless they actually know what they’re doing

@nhmooytis7058

2 жыл бұрын

@@sea_triscuit7980 nah I have a short attention span, perfect for poker and blackjack, bad for strategy games. I think I won Risk once in my whole life. But I KILLED at Trivial Pursuit!

I believe in an interview he said he hated chess and said that it was an old game that wasn’t able to grow and there was nothing new to learn about the game because every move ever to be played in the game has been played. He ended up trying to make his own variations of chess to keep the game interesting to himself. If you can imagine Einstein discovering the theory to everything and that there was nothing else to learn about physics, then you can also understand why some physicists who’ve dedicated their lives to the subject would go insane. That’s just a little window into his madness.

@Ass_of_Amalek

Жыл бұрын

couldn't he have just switched to go?

@CybersteelEx

Жыл бұрын

@@Ass_of_Amalek should've played shotgun chess

@someguywhocanfly

Жыл бұрын

He invented 960Chess because he hated the memorisation in the game, which I can respect

@areaxisthegurkha

Жыл бұрын

Shouldve played Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, etc.

@nonyobussiness3440

Жыл бұрын

@@CybersteelEx regular chess is harder and chess 960 is better

Touching sentimental and nostalgic was the fact that Spassky offered to stay in fishers cell with him in Japan but required to be given a chessboard 's💕 it seems as if those two had some sort of very deep connection in the cosmos I wonder if they were friends or maybe brothers in another life

The pieces' movement at 3:15 is... interesting, to say the least.

Spasky was arguably even more impressive by being a grandmaster of kindness.

@ananysingh869

Жыл бұрын

Made me smile! Great comment, very true as well. Specially the part where they played chess inside the cell.

@RYOKUTO_AMARAIN

Жыл бұрын

*humble

@isaacs.hokama5008

Жыл бұрын

I agree! This video made me respect Spasky even more

@terrymanning8064

Жыл бұрын

I salute Boris for his great sportsmanship!

@JamieTransNyc

Жыл бұрын

Or Karpov, for being a grandmaster of geniality, and courtesy.

His mom abandoning him may have had something to do with his downfall, childhood neglect follows a person forever

@YehudiNimol

Жыл бұрын

it's pretty clear that the reason he hates his Jewish side is because of mommy issues

@zarategabe

Жыл бұрын

Something like that affects people for their entire lives

@gamemeister27

Жыл бұрын

She was ethnically Jewish as well, so you wonder if that trauma explains his antisemitism.

@yeshuasage3724

Жыл бұрын

@@ctrainbeats your dad was a terrible piece of shit, a dad should impose his authority on his kids and discipline them, but he should NEVER subjugate them causing them to become withdrawn and timid

@mimishandle

Жыл бұрын

learning coping skills is seriously important in living a healthy life after trauma. trauma affects your physical body responses to stress even if you didn’t know you were about to go from 0-100. it’s fight or flight often. i wish health care was more accessible, trusted, funded, and affordable for all.

I haven't never played chess or have a clue how to play-But I loved the series Queens Gambit and like watching Anna Cramling on KZread beating other players. Great video on this Grand Master

For everyone Commenting about Magnus -125 WIN streak Well that was not only wins it consisted of 42 wins and 83 draws So it was more like not lost for 125 matches Whereas Bobby's 20 streak is of only WINS( consecutive)

I love how as he said "they learnt how the pieces moved" and then the animation showed the knights moving in a straight line.

@owlphobic

Жыл бұрын

Why not you go edit the video yourself?

@Alex.The.Lionnnnn

Жыл бұрын

@OwlPhobic that's a rather odd, and somewhat aggressive suggestion. You're right, I as the publisher should edit it myself and then random weirdos will turn up and defend me.

@owlphobic

Жыл бұрын

@@Alex.The.Lionnnnn that wasn't the point what i mean't was why would you discriminate on a mistake he made even though you should understand how hard to edit and animate these videos are.

@Alex.The.Lionnnnn

Жыл бұрын

I didn't discriminate. I just thought it was funny. Get over it.

@spaghettitacosrainsupreme4735

Жыл бұрын

@@owlphobic it's not that deep dude, and wdym discriminate? how can someone discriminate against an editing mistake? discrimination is when we're talking about a group of individuals being treated unfairly for being in that certain group.

"A man that is intellectually one step ahead of his peers, is known as a genius. But a man who is two steps ahead of his peers, is insane."

@TheMuddman74

2 жыл бұрын

@HBitron I cant remember. I always care more about the quote/substance than the person who said it. I've heard my father (physics professor) say it many times in the 90s-2000s but it's not his quote. He was good about sharing and remembering powerful quotes. Sorry I'm no help

@titustitus8365

2 жыл бұрын

Everything he said was right, normal people are just low IQ, cowards and sheep, they shit themselves in their pants whenever someone talks truth to power near them.

@donalvarez4006

2 жыл бұрын

🤯

@ladygodiva9294

2 жыл бұрын

Elon Musk is the epitome of this, with the exception that he's more than willing to be PROVEN wrong. When you can, I encourage parents to teach that skill to their kids (ie. support your argument). I have 2 above average IQ kids and where they struggle is the frustration that comes along with why others don't understand when they are right or think differently. That frustration in my oldest will cause her to flash anger sideways and at random moments, it causes my youngest to completely withdraw. They just don't understand why others don't see it their way and so desperately try to help, but the anger turns inward. Edit - spelling

@Unlucky-Dube

2 жыл бұрын

@@ladygodiva9294 LOL MUSK, mate, my fucking god ...

Thank you so much for this short but brilliant documentary, you narrated it really well. What an amazing character Fischer was, controversial but a genius.

Fascinating video and thanks so much for posting it. It has been said the difference between Briiliance and Insanity can be razor thin. If there is a grain of truth to it, Bobby is surly a good example.

Anyone with obsessive habits knows why Bobby lost his mind. It’s a lonely life. I’m up to over 2,000 hours drawing and painting this year while working 12 hour swing shifts and overtime. I eat my dinners alone. I take walks alone. I spend my breaks drawing alone… The lack of human intimacy really messes your head up

@kariossyr6018

Жыл бұрын

Your comment may not be perfect with this video's libe, but is really underrated.. Yes how disturbing this figure of life we have today..

@zfr33ze87

Жыл бұрын

Can relate to this as well, it’s a lonely world

@sampreece3900

Жыл бұрын

You aren't alone when you are friends with your own mind.

@girlwiththegrapefruit6044

Жыл бұрын

@@cat_the_real it's completely normal to like a lot of alone time just make sure you still have some regular contact with people you enjoy exchanges with and you'll be fine. Isolation and solitude are not the same thing and have different effects on your mental health

@nowon_3229

Жыл бұрын

I haven't left KZread in 10 years, I have decided to make the ultimate no life choice....I'ma become a....**gulp** KZreadr! But seriously yes, being alone is the most painful thing.

Boris Spassky sounds like a genuinely stand up guy. Much respect.

@mikoto7693

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Whatever else he is/was he’s still a good sportsman and fair opponent or rival. I respect that.

@your_average_joe5781

2 жыл бұрын

I believe this is why Fisher enjoyed playing chess with him. No doubt Bobby must have respected the honest character of Boris Spassky and enjoyed his company.

@uptonsavoie

2 жыл бұрын

Considering Fischer's blatant and vocal anti-Semitism, Boris Spassky's support is almost incredible--Spassky is Jewish.

@your_average_joe5781

2 жыл бұрын

@@uptonsavoie well I didn't know that. You're right, that is incredible !

@pb66

2 жыл бұрын

@@uptonsavoie Bobby Fischer was Jewish as well. There are many videos of him explaining his dislike for Jews. His explanations seem to be based on empirical observations, not of someone that has lost their mind.

People should credit Spassky. The dude was also a nasty player that also beat every russian big guys that existed in their time. He even had great sportsmanship against Fischer. Throughout Fischer's maddening, Spassky was always there to support him and try to calm him down with a game of chess. Spassky was the MVP no one recognized

@bigfootsburneraccount9160

8 ай бұрын

Agreed 💯

When Paul died, Peter actually looked after Bobby. This was while he was credited for the stats test bearing his name right before Bobby started his world title run. Tons of history there that’s super interesting

@qwarev6451

11 ай бұрын

How does this have no replies?

@susien9883

9 ай бұрын

Paul morphy and peter svindler :0

massive respect to spasky. Im sure he could tell that for all fischer's greatness, he was troubled. Spasky simply wanted to help him do what he was meant to do.

@user-oz5vu9fb9r

Жыл бұрын

i dont think its about helping him. as a serious chess player, it was important to him to know that his victories (and falls) are real and not result of spaciel circumstances. that why he insisted to play againat him ratter then win technic victory.

@TREVASLARK

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you here.

@goofygrandlouis6296

Жыл бұрын

Bro, there's NOTHING I saw in this video that makes him "troubled". You might not like his political views.. but do you know how many people in the world hold the same views as Fisher ? Newsflash : billions ! Just in the muslim states alone, especically since Bush's "war on Terror". As for his reclusive nature, introvert geniuses are all like that.

@youdontneedtoknow1057

Жыл бұрын

@@goofygrandlouis6296 bro, hbelieved the world was gonna end, reclused from the world, and freaked out to insane degrees if his demands weren't met. His political views got nothin to do with it lmfao.

@goofygrandlouis6296

Жыл бұрын

@@youdontneedtoknow1057 OK, so here's my interpretation of it, as they are MANY videos about high-IQ / gifted pupils. a) Most of them are hyper-sensitive, both physically (light, sound.. like TV cameras) and mentally (they endure emotions in a much intense ways, like mom not giving out love) b) They also need regularity (thus the schedule incident) and often-time have border-line Asperger tendancies (like Elon Musk). In short, Fisher (just like Turing or Rousseau) needed an environnement of love & support, and an alter ego to talk to (like Spasky). They did not have that, thus fell into reclusivity.

When you have a friend like Spassky, you are never going to be alone.

@actionjksn

Жыл бұрын

I don't know that it was so much a case of Spasky liking him, I think it was more a matter of Spasky having a great deal of respect for him because of his god-given talent. He probably didn't feel right seeing that incredible Talent be wasted. It really was a waste what happened to him, because at his best there's probably nobody that has ever been that good. He was only at his best for a fairly short time unfortunately and the talent was wasted mostly, and yet he still set some records that still stand.

@huxgxuvtc

Жыл бұрын

✨

@RogueTheFurryRaver

Жыл бұрын

@@actionjksn i'd say that it was a mixture of respect and liking him, i mean....he had chess with him in jail, you could say he just had THAT much respect for Bobby, but i feel like at that point you have to admit that Spassky liked Bobby at least a little bit, if not more not many people visit someone in jail, in a different country, JUST to play chess out of respect, traveling to different countries can be quite expensive

@TheSilmarillian

Жыл бұрын

Valid point indeed

@user-xu5bk7zg1e

Жыл бұрын

The 777 likes just make this all the more better

Thanks for another fascinating episode!

This was a excellence piece of history. I enjoyed it very much! Thanks

I was a young man when he played Boris spassky and probably due to the Cold War he was made out to be kind of a bad guy. I am overjoyed finally to hear what a good human being he was.

@JaeLiViki

2 жыл бұрын

Is. Spassky isn't dead yet.

@mikoto7693

2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad I’m not the only one who heard this and thought to myself. “This Boris fellow actually seems like a decent person and good sportsman.” He could have walked away with that championship by default. Instead he did everything he could to see that it could happen so he’d win or lose legitimately. I respect that.

@doukdouk2550

2 жыл бұрын

All Wars are Disinformation WARS to Manipulate the Masses into Hating the Victims and siding with the Provokers.

@leefswgoh7558

2 жыл бұрын

@@doukdouk2550 Aaah, that´s why fischer hated the jews...

@nighttimeasbestos5958

2 жыл бұрын

@@leefswgoh7558 no, misinformation was why Boris was portrayed as a bad guy to western media, Fischer being antisemitic is a reflection of himself not media portrayal

Saving everyone 22 minutes, he never answers why Fisher went insane.

@de_brotot

2 жыл бұрын

You should be at the top

@levape3911

2 жыл бұрын

he did though

@protvanj5320

2 жыл бұрын

if i only read this 22 minutes ago

@jzk3919

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe all this "insanity" is in the eye of the beholder. My sister is retired psychiatrist and she tells anyone that there is no such thing as a "NORMAL" person.

@jeanpaulmichell7243

2 жыл бұрын

@@jzk3919 True enough. Although there is such a thing as abnormal. Ideas and thoughts can and are taken to a point of no return with horrific consequences. Read the news sometime.

I end up more impressed with Spassky in this video, what a guy!

This is the best Fischer documentary. Thank you

I have such respect for Spassky for being a gentleman during their '72 match. All class.

@worsethanjoerogan8061

Жыл бұрын

Yeah every time Fischer made demands Spassky would agree because he was there to play.

@bogdanrus9402

Жыл бұрын

Nobody is saying it as it is about that game - Fischer was an annoying pretentious little bitch while Spassky was a gentleman that put up with his shit because he knew better.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

spassky should have taken the title.

@notmyrealname39

Жыл бұрын

​@@princegobi5992 but there is no fun in that.

@lindadanforth-md8hc

Жыл бұрын

ok tits

thoughty2: its impossible! me, winning against my infant cousin 30 times in a row: *they called me a madman*

@jestfullgremblim8002

2 жыл бұрын

That is still impresive, how come your cosing didn't get tired of losing and stopped playing? Did you tie them up?

@locxle

2 жыл бұрын

@@jestfullgremblim8002 he is stuck with me playing chess because theres no other toys other than uno which he literally almost ripped everything apart

@EnamulShanto

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@BettyAlexandriaPride

2 жыл бұрын

This made me ugly laugh.

@TheDoctormadness

2 жыл бұрын

and that infant cousin is so skilled in chess that I'm scared to play against him, making your win streak even greater!

Thanks for posting

Thank you for this thoughtful video!

What makes spasskys behavior so special is that he was representing a nation that would have and certainly did, berate him for his failure and look down on the way he handled the failure rather than heap praise on him for being an exceptional human being. I will always have respect for fishers skill, but it’s men like Spassky who I admire and respect.

@CoolGobyFish

2 жыл бұрын

That's not true. You are spewing western propaganda. He was very respected and admired

@ampinghard111

2 жыл бұрын

@@CoolGobyFish according to Spassky himself, he was mistreated when he returned after his loss and was banned from traveling abroad for 9 months. He literally moved to France and didn’t return to his homeland until 2012 because of how he was treated there after the loss to Fischer. This is the book containing the interview with Spassky after moving to France “Finding Bobby Fischer: Chess interviews” by Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam. Mark Taimanov also write about being persecuted by his nation for losing to Fischer in his book “I Was A Victime of Bobby Fischer”. You are doing these men a disservice trying to act like they didn’t show such grace through mistreatment by their country.

@ivan679

2 жыл бұрын

@@ampinghard111 That is quite sad. USSR could easily spin it to gain points inside country as well as worldwide. There is no shortage of how much rep it could have gained, not everything is about winning.

@CoolGobyFish

2 жыл бұрын

@@ampinghard111 he didn't come back home because after 1991 ussr was destroyed and Russia turned to shit

@ampinghard111

2 жыл бұрын

@@CoolGobyFish you’re right may be the homeland but the USSR obviously was no more in 2012 haha

Bobby wrote a column in Boy’s Life magazine that was designed to teach us Boy Scouts how to play chess. In each article he would focus on how to best leverage a particular piece, starting with pawns, then the power pieces, one at a time…I ate it all up and became one of the dominant players at my high school, graduating in 1972. Then met a girl and lost interest. All the sour news came out; I didn’t follow too closely, but always I would tell the story of how I was “Bobby Fischer trained”.

@alexcarter8807

2 жыл бұрын

Boy's Life was the greatest though! Loved that magazine as a kid.

@jarnold1789

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexcarter8807 Forgot about that one, brings back memories

@scottwarren4998

2 жыл бұрын

WHO WOULD WIN, PRIME KASPAROV VS PRIME FISCHER?

@GAMTT

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottwarren4998 Prime Fischer for sure

@scottwarren4998

2 жыл бұрын

@@GAMTT sad they didnt face. many people say kasparov would win, but i believe fischer was better. Who would win, prime Carlsen vs prime fischer?

When my great uncle taught me to play chess, I was 9 and it was 1994. He told me everytime we played that I should study bobby fisher. My great uncle jack was the biggest bobby fisher fan. Thanks for this video!

Thanks for sharing. 👍 👍 👍

In my years of playing and studying chess and the greatest players I've come to the conclusion that chess doesn't create madness, but it does attract it.

@tesone6783

2 жыл бұрын

And, I can imagine, it brings it out of you.

@gt7johnnehrenz21

2 жыл бұрын

@@tesone6783 Ahh...you prove my thesis. Thanx

@CODESFV

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not as smart,can you elaborate?as to why it attracts it

@gt7johnnehrenz21

2 жыл бұрын

@@CODESFV While not the pawn pushers like me, but the upper tier of players have brains that few of us can fathom. From Aspbergers to OCD quirkiness to full blown Autism, these people are attracted to games, puzzles, numbers, patterns, mazes...etc. And their abilities in memory retention and recall can boggle your mind. They were born that way, not made that way.

@maxfun6797

2 жыл бұрын

this guys just talking non-sense. sorry but you know it yourself

That was a really well told story. I now have mad respect towards Boris Spassky. What a chap with his sportsmanship and respect he had towards his rival.

@scottwarren4998

2 жыл бұрын

WHO WOULD WIN, PRIME KASPAROV VS PRIME FISCHER?

@aluhearriaga3955

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Spassky got his interest piqued by Fischer...? It's weird to me that someone would go to extents such as incarcerating yourself for another person's solitude just for sportsmanship. AND defend them against public media, ignoring the lens of the cold war parallels Spassky and Fischer were seen through. Maybe it's a bit far-fetched, but from my point of view, Spassky got some kind of interest for Fischer. Perhaps.

@electrifiedbathbomb7383

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottwarren4998 Fischer would probably crush or draw Kasparov or even Magnus, dude was that cracked, too bad he was busy being baded

@MohammedMustafa-sx3jf

2 жыл бұрын

If both have equal opportunity to get engine analysis then yes otherwise magnus or hell any gm above 2650 would be able to beat fischer because how developed the theory is

@radicalbradical3164

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a good video but don’t be misguided he’s not a real chess player and doesn’t understand the reason it’s unfair to compare Fischer to carlsen. The computer chess revolution makes it so people memorize crazy 30+ move lines and just draw the world champion.

Ive read a lot of his game reviews by grandmasters and it’s true brilliance, and all that without teams of masters or even computers calculating lines for him him, just amazing.

Spassky sounds absolutely incredible. What a noble man.

One thing Thoughty forgot to mention... Bobby Fischer single-handedly made chess into a profession. When he burst upon the scene, the winning purse from a large tournament might be $3000. He realized he could demand more, and forced the winning purses to increase to $300,000 and even $1.2 Million. The flood of immensely talented chess players is a direct result of this change. He also created the current timekeeping system, which increments (adds back) time to the players as the game continues.

@StandardName562

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like he has a very high IQ and was very smart. Maybe the things he said werent so crazy after all?

@guhz3395

Жыл бұрын

@@StandardName562 wouldn’t say that

@eschiedler

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. The Soviet Union made chess at profession.

@uselessdegenerate7565

Жыл бұрын

@@StandardName562 you should look more into the things he said then. They were ridiculous

@Opossum412

Жыл бұрын

@@StandardName562 To paraphrase a different sort of brilliant mind, Carl Sagan, genius is no guarantee against being dead wrong.

What a legend Spassky was, truly a respectable gentleman

@dennisznaniecke490

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@butbunsin9044

Жыл бұрын

Spassky know fisher just respect him and let him win 2 times at first round. 🎉😂 only pro chess can know who let you win and respect later while idiots know only win and doesn't know why opponent let him win. Spassky join fisher can prison show their close relationship in chess and friendship.

@Jesusandbible

Жыл бұрын

he is still alive

@_ASSaddict__

Жыл бұрын

​@@Jesusandbible real

@Callisthenicskid

Жыл бұрын

@@Jesusandbible Fischer died but spassky is still alive

People's personalities that are destined to go insane are difficult to divert from that end. The fact that this man played Chess is a side note. He could just as well collected baseball cards or designed nuclear fission devices.

@dannygjk

6 ай бұрын

Fischer would have agreed with you. He stated himself that he was a genius who happened to play chess.

I really like how you tell the story, you have full respect of Bobby Fischer, unlike other documentaries out there. It's amazing that there's a bright side. I've been following Bobby Fischer life story for long, and aside from the book "Endgame", this video of yours is a guaranteed unbiased documentary...

The light sensitivity and erratic behavior are symptoms of a person "on the spectrum". It is not uncommon for people like this to prefer lamps to ceiling lights as the glare is annoying to them. Lashing out comes from difficulty communicating, feeling different and knowing you are different, it is easy to believe that you are being mocked and lacking the skills to compete it is easier to flee than fight. Fishers mental health was probably not caused by chess but the pressure that came to surround him due to his success at chess. While playing he probably felt safe, knowing the rules, knowing everyone had to obey them and that he would not be mocked for some social faux pas he didn't understand or care about.

@TaskerFilms

Жыл бұрын

Youre incorrect. If you look him up on earlier talk shows, he's quite sociable. Understands banter without hardship. There's a correlation between OCD and superstition for high level performers across every domain. Singers, pro athletes, etc

@jurgeysamuel

Жыл бұрын

@@TaskerFilms just because he's "social" in a talk show where the host is literally doing their job by trying to get him to talk doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't on the spectrum

@MrBeatboxmasta

Жыл бұрын

@@TaskerFilms Elon is sociable and understands jokes in interviews and yet, he explained that he is on the spectrum. A spectrum means not everyone have the same degree of challenges.

@rowan404

Жыл бұрын

I'm also "on the spectrum," and I had a similar outburst when I was on the math team in 4th grade. At the beginning of the first tournament, I got frustrated with my teammates because they wouldn't put down the answer that I _knew_ was right (they confused perimeter with area), so I let out a blood-curdling scream, forfeited the tournament, quit the team, and had to be replaced by a backup. However, unlike Fisher, I'm not a bigot, I would never join a cult, and I wouldn't break the law unless it was for the greater good, such as if the government was corrupt. I think such erraticness is often tied to high IQ. My mom told me that people with an IQ of 160 or higher may have a hard time functioning in society due to so much of their minds being allocated to their intelligence. However, many people "on the spectrum" have a higher IQ than average, so his behavior was likely a combination of autism and a dangerously-high IQ.

@bovineavenger734

Жыл бұрын

@@rowan404 Once you're smart enough you begin to understand how stupid things are, it's not hard to see why someone so bright would think of societal norms as worthless. You could also look at it the other way and understand how necessary they are, but it's all a matter of moral relativism in the end. He was still right on the ZOG though, even though he was a complete ass.

I think it's very interesting that he played against himself so much as a child. Almost like reflexive machine learning. A self generated data set. That GO computer that self trained crushed using totally irregular tactics. Because they weren't taught "how to play properly" in advance but explored into new configurations and strategies

@SinForTheSaint

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Once everyone knows all the tactics, it's time for a new surprise tactic

@prashant_kerung_thegim0709

2 жыл бұрын

My dad was a state chess player and he used to do that a lot 3 to 4 hours a day, he'd say it practice but that was crazy to watch. He passed away a year ago he was the best player in our town.

@joshuaking7746

2 жыл бұрын

Stop blabbing

@justinrustan2418

2 жыл бұрын

@@prashant_kerung_thegim0709 Sorry to hear of your father passing!

@sadpotato714

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuaking7746 stop commenting

Strong unpopular opinions aren't akin to madness. The man was a genius.

@TerryUniGeezerPeterson

7 ай бұрын

His insanity went far beyond his "opinions".

The truth. He found out the truth. And he went insane and was exiled.

@Sleepyjudei

2 ай бұрын

Yes, except the insane part

@jefftaylor1186

2 ай бұрын

@@Sleepyjudei The only way to stay sane in this insane world to is go insane.

@GoldenCalamari

2 ай бұрын

What is the truth

He didn't have coaches or friends to ask for advices, he was a just a one man machine who defeated anybody in his way.

@HegelsOwl

2 жыл бұрын

Can't believe you got fifteen "thumbs up" for such a profoundly ignorant remark. You better have a look at Brody's biography.

@sebastianjosefsson3620

2 жыл бұрын

Highest rating gap between n1 and n2 ever which is a chess record, highest win rate among world champs, longest winning streak, perfect us championship score, one of the highest iqs ever measured. One of the legends of chess and a top goat

@woodsofypres

2 жыл бұрын

@@HegelsOwl like check

@abysswatcher4907

2 жыл бұрын

@@HegelsOwl Exactly. I mean, if you watch the video through at 4:35, you will find Fischer lost during his first game against a chess master before he was formally educated. Defeated anybody in his way? How could you say that? He was way up against other all chess grandmasters at his peak, but still many games ended up in draw, and his pride and arrogance led many possible games forfeited, which I count as a loss on his side. Regardless, Fischer is simply a legend, though you have to admit his success comes in a hard way with countless days of mental exercises and incredible friendships he built along the way.

@gloomygl

2 жыл бұрын

Except... he did...

This isn't the only instance of something like this happening. It is less about the game and more about the people attracted to spend their lives studying it. There is a quote by former British chess champion Bill Hartston, "Chess doesn't drive people mad, it keeps mad people sane."

@ChineduOpara

2 жыл бұрын

That's a deep quote, fam

@Nekrumorfiini1

2 жыл бұрын

Who said Bobby was mad? Isn't it the world the one that's insane?

@MizQue

2 жыл бұрын

Kasparov said the same thing - when talking about Bobby.

@bigtoelittlefinger6133

2 жыл бұрын

That’s probs what happened to him when he left the game

@michaelking2857

2 жыл бұрын

Where you keeping them gold plates Joe?

It must be very difficult to maintain your sanity when you have so much power running through your brain.

I used to think how chess can be played single handedly. When I came to know RJF did this to learn it I was really surprised. It is true that he did not play alone he extracted all possibilities on this board.

I love how Spassky had such an obvious bro crush on Fischer. When you beat a guy in a sport and he's willing to share a prison cell with you on the condition he can play the game you beat him at some more, that's Ancient Greek-style love right there.

@GameWorld3D

2 жыл бұрын

maybe he wanted to play him again to try and learn off him

@jgunther3398

2 жыл бұрын

no, there was enough ancient greek style love available in there already

@derrellstumpfel4363

2 жыл бұрын

i would guess it was just that chess game connection and respect.. chasing that dream of knowledge.... but .. whatever...

@szendrich

2 жыл бұрын

He probably never found anyone else to match Fischer. I know what it's like not to find a good opponent to play with. That's why I started playing against computers. But I guess at that level of competition, you'd want an opponent on a par with you.

@therealmcromano319

2 жыл бұрын

Y’all just calling any male companionship gay now

Spassky was a true sportsman

@curiousandcreativewithwand8515

2 жыл бұрын

100% Often seems there is too little of that.

@mullergyula4174

2 жыл бұрын

Gotto love Spassky for his sportmanship.

@Alliebutt

2 жыл бұрын

He was honestly more than that, I'd even go so far as to say he was a high quality bro as well. The guy literally joined him in prison, so they could play together and keep each other company. That level of friendship during their time, is honestly remarkable.

@geoffrey6000

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@jessephillips5114

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alliebutt a high quality bro lmao .

Spassky is a true nobleman maybe he wasn't as good as Magnus or Bobby but his honour makes me regard him in a higher way

Such a great storyteller. I really enjoy these videos ❤

I wanna hear spassky's story, he sounds like a great guy.

@justinlewtp

2 жыл бұрын

Born in USSR during WW2 he luckily escaped the german onlsaught by train, where he learnt chess. He became youngest grandmaster at the time at 16 (Before fischer took the record), and while he lost the world championship match against Petrosian in 1966 he won it in 1969, and then was scheduled to play fischer in 1972 where he lost. Afterwards, he still proved his strenght by winning the USSR championship in 1973, reaffirming that he was still the strongest USSR player even after losing the title, where soviet officials begun moving efforts to support Karpov, which they saw as the best chance of retaking the title. Spassky eventually defected to France in 1980s despite the great efforts of soviets to prevent him, and he stayed and played for France and was still a strong player for a long time. He is still alive currently, but little is known about him nowadays

@josefn738

2 жыл бұрын

Spassky was literally a chess player thats the best you could describe him lol he always played to his best never made excuses and when fisher whined about something in the stage Spassky simply agreed to play in the back with no interruptions mans just wanted to play some chess lol

@davidcopson5800

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinlewtp Spassky was born in January 1937, just before the war.

@justinlewtp

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidcopson5800 woops my bad

@brianlam5847

2 жыл бұрын

@@josefn738 Spassky was a genius, just not to the degree of Bobby. Spassky has a universal playing style, with the ability to seize initiative, play solid or aggressive very well. His games with Bobby, also a universal player with an aggressive skew, are one of the more interesting chess games for an enthusiast. They were all close fights, and his wins against Bobby were extremely genuine and telling of his skill.

Spassky - what an absolute gent and a legend too! Not just for his achievements, but for the humility and compassion he showed Fischer. He obviously recognised his tormented genius and shared common ground with him.

@ljay7115

Жыл бұрын

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1)Spassky had some class. 2)The way the US government treated Fischer was reprehensible. 3)Can we talk about how fitting it is that he died at 64?

I've played chess for over 50 years. I have seen and studied innumerable games. The one thing that comes through Fischer's play is the simplicity and clarity and extraordinary depth of his play. Most of his games seem almost innocuous, then he makes a couple of moves and his opponent resigns or gets mated, seemingly totally out of the blue. In the "Immortal game" against Byrne, at the end, when Byrne stands up THE EXPERTS WATCHING AND COMMENTING SAID, "well, Byrne just beat Fischer." THEN Byrne offered his hand to Fischer and resigned. EVERYBODY WAS STUNNED! It was sitting in front of them and the couldn't see Fischer had two moves to a massive victory. That was the depth of his insight. Another short anecdote: Fischer was in Russia to play a tournament, and he got into a conversation with other Russian masters & grandmasters. He went into great depth about several up-and-coming FEMALE Russian players covered by minor Russian chess periodicals. They were stunned - that HE was following and analyzing very young RUSSIAN FEMALE PLAYERS, and, second, that THEY WERE COMPLETELY UNAWARE OF THEM. Such was the depth and breadth of the World's greatest chess player.

The other hero in this story is Spassky. What a sportsman!

@psforos

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@micha-elhorus5799

Жыл бұрын

Actually the only hero

@221b_Bakerstreet

Жыл бұрын

Spassky is indeed the hero of the story

@harryposner7584

Жыл бұрын

He was quite a lovely man. I had the fortune to play him in 1971 and to have a chat with him. He told me I could have had a draw in our game (he beat me in 27 moves), but didn't tell me what the moves were to obtain it! It took 40 years and chess engines to show me what the drawing line was.

My grandfather actually played with Bobby regularly in 1956 at the West Orange Chess Club in New Jersey. They played on the same team in inter-state tournaments. I found some of my Grandpa’s old letters and it’s pretty cool. He won multiple chess championships (some amateur and some professional) in the late 40s and early 50s. He also was involved in a few professional chess clubs and magazines. He was born in 1909 and while I like to think he taught Bobby a thing or two to help him gain his immense success that year, it’s likely the 13 year old schooled my grandpa. My grandpa quit chess in 1957 to turn professional in bridge because it was better financially (chess tournaments didn’t pay well back then). Though, he probably played teenage Bobby enough to know he stood no chance in the future. If a 13 year old made a multi-time champion quit the game entirely, he must have been truly special. My grandpa could card count so I don’t think he had a problem switching to bridge, and became a national life master in bridge and had a successful career. I never got to meet him because he died before I was born (I’m only 23), I would’ve loved to ask him about Bobby. Maybe my mom knows a bit more. All I have are letters and a few chess trophies. It’s very hard to collect information from the early 50s.

@GetOutOMahFace

Жыл бұрын

Forgot a fun fact! My grandpa was questioned by the government (FBI/CIA not sure) during the Cuban missile crisis because he regularly played games through mail to other players all over the world (including Cuba) they thought he was sending information but he was literally mailing one chess move at a time back and forth. Still the nerdiest thing I’ve ever heard but it’s true. If anyone has questions, I can dig through more letters to see if I can find more information. There are a ton of them but his connection to Bobby is rare and worth exploring.

@PoptartParasol

Жыл бұрын

@@GetOutOMahFace please do this sounds so fascinating haha

@caitaquarius6467

Жыл бұрын

very cool

@dariogutierrez6716

Жыл бұрын

Mail chess was not rare, it was popular in the 60s all over the world

@jannieschluter9670

Жыл бұрын

Write a report about all you find and put together

Bobby was an amazing chess player, but the real legend is Borris Spassky. A true Sigma, Spassky brought dignity to Bobby's achievement and was a fantastic example as a man and competitor. I hear he was pretty good at chess too.

Although 14K comments precede this, I have to add mine. I was really impressed with this profile of Bobby Fischer and his career. Summarizing a life in 22 minutes isn't fair, but I feel like you did your research and worked hard to present a balanced view. I lived through the time of Fischer's dominance and was aware of the tension surrounding his match against Spassky. I had no idea Spassky intervened on Fischer's behalf - not once, but twice. That dispels the belief that the Soviet players were programmed and inhuman. Since Muhammad Ali lost his boxing title, I was disappointed yet not surprised that Bobby Fischer refused to defend his title. Politics and mental health. Yet, your video gave me a better sense of how dominant Fischer was. I knew he'd been a young champion, but I didn't know his self-destructive bent prevented him from contending for the World title sooner. How many prodigies and geniuses never got to shine for any of a number of reasons? Thank you also for not skirting the ugly side of Bobby Fischer. Makes me think of Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh who expressed support for the Nazis. You were right: giftedness does not excuse hurtful conduct. Maybe, for me, it took a Brit to present the story of Bobby Fischer from a neutral standpoint in order for me to get a better appreciation of the man. He was a flawed hero, but I better understand why Bobby Fischer is - to this day - considered arguably the greatest chess player who ever lived. Thank you!

All I am taking away is that Spassky was a great guy

Spassky was a true gentleman and you can tell cared so much about the game he was willing to be imprisoned if he could spend those years playing with Fisher.

@Tugela60

2 жыл бұрын

In other words he was insane as well?

@RandomGuyOnYoutube601

2 жыл бұрын

was?

19:45 When someone says something terrible, it doesnt have to be inherently false

Possibly the best presentation from this channel.

Mad respect for Boris Spassky, a true sportsman and class act.

@ompatel8988

2 жыл бұрын

He had an unfair advantage.

@woody8385

2 жыл бұрын

@@ompatel8988 ok and

@tanmayjagtap78

2 жыл бұрын

Quite a cool guy ❤️🔥👏

It's always been understood that there's a fine line between genius and insanity

@lyrimetacurl0

Жыл бұрын

Yep, there's also a zone like mine where I think I'm normal but some people think I'm insane.

@unwnme

Жыл бұрын

@@lyrimetacurl0 Insane sounds better than outsane though. "You know what I'm saneing bro?"

@simonlevett4776

Жыл бұрын

Says who ?

@bamaboitube8572

Жыл бұрын

No there isn't

@sirlanez7496

Жыл бұрын

True geniuses have always ended up insane.

I learned that I really like this Spassky guy. His character seems pretty remarkable

Spasky seems to be a hell of a person even with all the advantages on his side in every situation he respected an embattled man to the utmost degree and was willing to compromise for a fair duel never kicking a man why he was down only extolling him to the highest so noble of him

@nesamdoom

2 жыл бұрын

Losing a fair fight is a way better feeling than winning anything other way.

@Sam60420

2 жыл бұрын

We need more people like Spassky in this world

@DeivixLV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sam60420 I'm trying my best to be like that bu tthe problem with this society is that most people think it's a weakness or something they can abuse for personal gains. It's quite messed up...

@Sam60420

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeivixLV not necessarily

@goutamboppana961

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeivixLV i tried being that as well during primary and 6-10th grades but same result

Boris Spassky: “I’ve kept good memories of Fischer. I don’t have any grudges against him. I always forgave him the fact that he behaved like a child. Bobby was very pure and friendly. He liked children, animals. He was an avid cat lover! I also preferred cats to dogs, like Bobby. He didn’t respect Karpov, or Kasparov, or Korchnoi or Campomanes… You know what he called them? Karpy, Kaspy, Korchy, Campy… In Iceland Bobby found himself in zugzwang. The Americans insisted that he was given up to the USA and he could never leave the island for fear of arrest. And he died because he didn’t trust his doctors. He had severe kidney problems but rejected an operation… He also tried to dissuade me when I had acute appendicitis during my match with Hort. He phoned and said I shouldn’t go to hospital. He thought that I, like him, was on a “blacklist” and that I might die at the hands of the doctors… Back when he was sitting in a Japanese prison I wrote a letter to the US President and sent it to Mioko Vatai, his last very close friend. She passed the letter to the Americans, but nothing came of it… Then I wrote that they should shut Fischer and me up in one room, give us a chess set and leave us in peace!”

@Stint45678

Жыл бұрын

the nickname kinda cute tho

@JuliusCeaser_

Жыл бұрын

@@Stint45678 no

@mano282

Жыл бұрын

​@@JuliusCeaser_ yes

@mach1553

Жыл бұрын

I think Fischer wrote a nice letter to Korchnoi after he defected.

@Stint45678

Жыл бұрын

@@JuliusCeaser_ yes

11:10 "Carlsen's reign has included a 125-game unbeaten streak"

@karmatic7957

3 ай бұрын

that’s an unbeaten streak not a winning streak unbeaten streak is much easier

@cagykoala6004

Ай бұрын

That was winning AND drawing. Bobby’s was only winning.

Boris seems like a real stand up dude, love the sportsmanship

@MrShanester117

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you said that. I couldn’t just read the other 200 comments that say the exact same thing

@totalhysteria

Жыл бұрын

@@MrShanester117 haha, why so rude?

@Juwu85

Жыл бұрын

@@MrShanester117 yeah you couldn’t, because they don’t exist.

15:46 Spassky was an absolute legend. At that moment.

He's one of the greats for sure,he was a beast,a giant of the game,one of the true greats and a legendary figure in chess,,in the persiut of true greatness there is a huge risk of insanity that one battles with,but to commit to excellence/greatness in any eandevour in life is a rare thing,,in my opinion only the true greats embody this mindset

When I was a kid, this match in Iceland was one my dad used to show me the difference between good and poor sportsmanship as well as being a spoiled brat. I was a chess nerd by eight years of age when I started watching chess competitions. That televised tournament taught me more about being a decent person than it did chess.

@mikoto7693

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a really good example in comparing good sportsmanship against being selfish and entitled though I have to admit that he was likely mentally ill while could have influenced Fischer. It’s still a great way to look at good sportsmanship, respect and earning a title through skill rather than default. There are worse things to be influenced by whilst growing up. It happens. I’ve got a theory that Star Trek TNG may have influenced my own morals and ethics due to watching it a lot with my parents as I grew up. I mean I was watching it so young that I didn’t know what outer space and planets are. But again there are worse things. As for chess, I did play it quite a bit in school. Usually during “wet play” when the rain meant we had to have breaks in the classroom instead of the playground. Also played it during lunch and at the chess club. I was pretty good at it but only in an average way. Maybe I should consider relearning it since I enjoyed it as a kid.

There is a story about Taimanov, after he lost 6-0 to Fischer in their match, the Soviets took away his vacation home. After Fischer beat Bent Larsen 6-0, they gave it back.

@kirbyculp3449

2 жыл бұрын

Spassky flew to the match 1st Class. He was flown home Economy.

@wandileduma6880

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirbyculp3449 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@kirbyculp3449

2 жыл бұрын

Also I recommend Yassir Sarawan's vid of Bobby Fischer stories.

@biazacha

2 жыл бұрын

Damn that’s some really petty shit LMAO

@brianlam5847

2 жыл бұрын

@@biazacha Not petty, Chess was a large psychological factor in the Cold War, where Russians beat literally everyone else for decades. It's similar to the space race, where Russia and the US needed a propaganda boost for their populace, and losing Chess as a propaganda point was important for Russia.

Documentary tells a lot about Spasky as well. Brilliant and grounded.