3:20: The old "know when to not play" technique. I use it so much, that most of the time, I just stand there. In fact I just stand there at a very high level of ability. It's really the best part of my bass playing.

@zadokmotorfreight2423

5 ай бұрын

Lol!! That's the best comment I've seen in awhile!!

@fred512

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

I wondered why Scott was doing a fake American accent for far longer than I should have

@gdluacan

3 жыл бұрын

it's not Scott

@SpurgeonFleischer

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Apophis392

3 жыл бұрын

Same! For real 😭

@speelbergo

3 жыл бұрын

lol beat me to it.

@D-C1

3 жыл бұрын

And lost his glove. Got me too. 😂😂

I just wanna point out that Ian's energy in all of his videos is so great. Like he's crazy positive and open.

@FrankTurk

3 жыл бұрын

Ian's enthusiasm and energy are incredible. So positive and also so intent on communicating good content. Not just a love fest but always an actual lesson.

@andresvasquez2700

3 жыл бұрын

agreed! i vibed with him the whole time!

@iCombs

3 жыл бұрын

I’m lucky enough to know Ian personally and what you see in these videos is basically what he’s like all the time. Could NOT be a nicer guy...always brings a wellspring of positivity and good vibes along with him.

Conversation between musicians, no matter the technical level, is always fasinating. And with the right attitude, it feels like building something great together.

Love it! More videos about the bass player - drummer relationship please! I feel this topic isn't discussed enough. The key to a rock solid rhythm section is being one with your drummer, and not every bassist/drummer are compatible. When you and a drummer lock in, it is a special thing! Keep up the great work guys!

@rodolfojanssen4696

3 жыл бұрын

I guess you didn't get the point they are trying to show...

@donh5794

3 жыл бұрын

Seems like the drummer can also lock in with the bass player or either one can step out and come back in as long as the other one knows what to do in those situations. Very interesting video. I'm still learning.

@DGlesterH

3 жыл бұрын

@@donh5794 absolutely, it goes both ways. Every relationship is a give and a take and the Drummer/Bassist one is no different. Knowing how and when to do either is when you really are grooving.

“I totally felt that, and enjoyed it”

@wjj669

3 жыл бұрын

May I reach around and...

@jeevakrishnan4500

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr.

Couldn't agree more. I've had some drummers be like "Dude, lock into my kick drum. The reason you exist is to accent my kick and make my kick more punchy." And I'm like, either: A: "Dude, how am I supposed to lock in when you're not keeping a consistent beat?" B: "Dude, that rhythm closes off the resonance of the bass, or is more tricky to count on bass than drums." or C: "You know, I don't feel that serves the song or the groove." It's not a hardfast rule that should always be used. It has its time when it is exactly what is needed, and other times when it is not what's needed.

So many of the best bass lines don't follow any of the "rules" we always hear. Take the bass line from the Beatles' "Something" for example. It doesn't lock with the kick, it doesn't lay down a rhythm foundation, it doesn't stick to the lower strings. Instead, it acts more as a melodic instrument. And it adds so much more to the song that way.

@iplaysdrums

3 жыл бұрын

At the same time, you can break the rules so much more effectively if you know what they are and can function in that way, too. The more versatile you are as a player, the more you can add regardless of what else is going on.

@luisa.millan9953

3 жыл бұрын

Eso es cierto...

@rome8180

3 жыл бұрын

@@iplaysdrums I totally agree with you. You have to know what you're doing and that comes with experience. You can get experience through practice, study, or listening to and imitating others. But you don't want to be flailing about.

@E_MZ_

Жыл бұрын

The possibilities are endless!

@blop-a-blop9419

Жыл бұрын

@@rome8180 failing about is ALSO what makes experience and discovery. If you want to get your own thing, you got to try and find it. And finding 'right stuff' also means finding 'wrong stuff' along the way. It's ok to try, it's ok to fail. If you're ot making mistakes it means you're not trying. Don't be afraid to fail.

This is really on the money. So often as a bass player you hear these 'lock with the kick' comments leaking through in interviews etc, and yet in real life situations we're all just thinking 'yea but that's just not always possible or practical'.

The Barrett brothers in Bob Marley's band are a perfect example where the bass and drums don't always play off each other, Carlton Barrett (drums), Aston Barrett (bass). Reggae with its off beat riddim. GREAT VIDEO

@andreedipo6356

3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone giving respect to reggae bass players. One of the styles people think it’s easy to play.

@davelongenecker649

11 ай бұрын

Umm Hmmmm!!!, oh YEAH! They were SO amazing!

as a drummer that has been playing bass for a couple years, this is really really helpful. Not to mention for people who haven't had experience in a band or played music with other rhythm section players, this is an awesome video to crack it. I'm hoping that I'll be able to catch a couple more of these sessions in the catalogue. Great content here.

The dialogue while live playing really drove the feeling of the lesson. Please, more vids like this!

More. 👏🏻 Ian. 👏🏻 Allison. 👏🏻 Videos. 👏🏻 PLEASE. 👏🏻

Gotta say, you are usually my go-to address for everything bass-related, but this combination and the perspective you are giving has been one of the best rhythm-section lessons I've had, so thanks for that. Also you guys seem to have a really good understanding of one another, musically speaking. More of that, please!!!

Ian and Steve were so in the pocket and Creative at the Same Time Genius indeed way too Go Scott 👍

Who are these guys?!? They're cool teachers!!

@IanMartinAllison

3 жыл бұрын

HI! I’m Ian and the drummer is Steve Goold. If you’re ever on Instagram, both of us are super active on that platform.

It structures what I always felt that there should be options. Have to admit I looked angry at a drummer when he wouldn't be consistent. Now I know how to react and what to do. Very practical lesson, it improved a lot for me. thank you Scott!

Loved this representation of rhythm section issues. As a bassist, it can be difficult to "sync up" with a drummer you don't normally play with, or have never played with. This demonstration of having more than one option is a great reminder of how amazing playing together can be

Thank you. I used to play in a band where the self proclaimed band leader always insisted that I should follow the kick drum, but I've always thought that the groove comes from playing against drum patterns and creating new rythms. Unfortunately he wasn't very fond of discussions. I don't play with them anymore.

Lol this is so pleasant. It's like the homies jamming on some molly 😂

I could listen to these two talk about music for hours.

As both a bassist and a drummer I find this so enjoyable. I love rhythm sections working together! Now, I'm just off to work out who I am.

Oh I am just super early, just want to say Scott is probably what turned me into a music nerd and made sure I didn't quit bass as an impulsive 14 year old

I love this channel. I learn so much watching y'all and occasionally get the pat on the back (like on this video) confirming that something I've been doing instinctively is, in fact, a tried and true approach. I think that locking with the kick or not is really about what feel you're going with for the song, as you ably demonstrated. When I'm working up new songs with my drummer there's always a bit of push-pull as we figure out where thingsare headed and what suits the song best.

Really pleased with the course this channel has taken. I appreciate it, keep up great work!

I gotta say this dude great. Probably my favorite guest on this channel.

Great show Scott as always, the lads have added ingredients which are forgotten about quite easy and a great help to our younger maestros. The rymthm section as always been a divide and rule for me a time and place for unity and a time and place to shine.

I love Ian! Really enjoyed his videos that he did breaking down his parts on Eric Hutchinson's album from a few years ago. So positive! So upbeat!

Really enjoyed the drum to bass perspective. It helped me better understand the possibilities of rhythm changes and solo options from the drummer's point of view. Great job!

This was incredibly cool and helpful; I'd definitely love to see more videos about playing with a drummer and about the drummer - bass player interactions (maybe how to sync up fills or something like that).

Oh shoot that's my old drum teacher! He is an AWESOME guy!

There are drums & bass jam videos on youtube but none of them are having as much fun as these two, even by playing only a couple of bars of seemingly simple patterns... Pretty Please with Sugar on Top publish a video Ian and Steve playing, improvising, having fun, switching roles supporting the other and using the expressive space.

Thanks Scott, cited your video yesterday to my band who thinks the bassist must lock with the kickdrum and drummer pattern.

Great video. So many ways to play in and out and listening to each other is key. Drums and bass can get almost telepathic - so one of you leaves space the other fills it. Or dynamic one of you brings things soft a staccato and you both head that way. Love it.

Thank you so much for making this so easy to understand. You guys are awesome!

Would click multiple times for this one. Great teachings here! Thanks guys!

These guys are so good. They explain some really great concepts very well. Plus their groove is so darn good. Awesome video.

That was a great video i' have had coversations with my drummer about this subject, really cool to see my ideas on this vindicated! and it sounded awesome guys!

Love the conversation, boys. So many times in my early years of learning to play bass, the guitarist would tell me I HAD to match the kick drum. If it helps the bassist and/or the drummer keep time, that's one thing. But this was more of an assumption that it's how things SHOULD be. It's not as though neither me nor the drummer could keep a beat. We had a piped in ticker in our earpiece to help us with the rhythms.

This is great. It’s stuff I’ve been doing naturally now it has meaning:)

hey guys, great lesson. thanks for adding context to the relationship between drums and bass!

This is the course I’ve longed for. It explains a bunch!!

That was eye opening. I've carried that lock in rule with me for way too many years.

I am a drummer and I was the one who had to follow the bass line with my kick Most the bass players I had played with (not sure if it was selfish or ego) had a attitude that I had to follow them I thought the opening bit saying that the bass had to follow the kick was sort of strange but at the same time wonderful to hear. Knowing now it’s a mix of both drummers and bass players that make it groove. I am a easygoing drummer and like to listen and play along with a bass line, if the bassist suggests some part for me to emphasise, I enjoy their feedback and try to work that into our combined rhythm line. Most the bassist’s I played just demanded I follow and do exactly what they want. A good rhythm line was played but no groove or enjoyment was felt while playing the song. Just listening to these two I understand now what can be accomplished when it’s cooperating rhythm section. Now to find a unselfish and less egotistical bass player to grove with. And before you slam me for that last bit I know not all bass players are like what I had to play with I just had bad luck with always finding the players who dreams and egos where bigger than their talent at playing their instruments (I definitely can add guitarist’s too that as well) I’m not the greatest drummer or amazing in my playing, just I simply enjoy playing music and like to know that the ones I jam with are similar. I leave my ego in my snare case and just play. I know that there are musicians out there who are the same.

They’re so cordial to each other to the point it looks like they’re being sarcastic

As a longtime drummer who is a prospective bassist, these videos are awesome and beyond helpful!

That may be the coolest looking jazz bass I've ever seen. And that drum kit is sexy as hell.

Such a great video. Will look the course up 👍

That was awesome. I will watch anything with Ian Allison! He is fantastic! Just joy when he plays. I loved the "Adam Clayton 8th notes" comment. I love Clayton's bass lines and he was a big influence when I started playing. Absolutely nothing wrong with playing 8th notes the whole song. And as was pointed out, it allows the others in the band to shine. That's fine with me. I didn't pick up bass to do solos.

These guys are great. I could watch and listen to them talk and play all day!

Great video. I can't wait to do this course!

Excellent examples and explanations. I'm a bass player and most of the time I play with my son who is an awesome drummer. We know how each other thinks and feels the rhythm. We make a great team.

great topic ideas a lot to talk about, guitar & keyboard conversation, playing inside and outside, thank you for this simple and powerful concept

Thank you. I always felt it was not necessary to lock in totally.

I want a million of these bass & drum videos. Please , a million! : D

Oh man, I miss playing with a drummer... it's been four years since I've played in a band.

Thank you Ian and Steve I always wonder if the drummer is liking what I'm playing as a bassists this helped me to know there are options

That was so useful....thanks from the UK

Great content Scott, this is soo spot on...concepts not rules!

Loved thisepisode. Learned a lot. So hard to find information specifcally about this subject. Would like to see you do that same thing with Solo and Rttym R&B/Funk guitars, Latin Percussion Players, etc.

Best lesson I've seen on this subject. So important.

Love these guys , Thanks for this

Guys, you just made me really want to be in a band, or have a friend who can drum. Would be groovy!!! :)

Scott looks, Different. I'm aware it's not scott just play along.

@McDoinky

3 жыл бұрын

Finally a break from “duuuuuuudes”

@davinchaffin6839

3 жыл бұрын

he does, it must be the glasses

@deluca9340

3 жыл бұрын

Seems like they have a fairly strict dresscode for bassplayers in SBL

@taipolar333

3 жыл бұрын

he's not wearing the gloves

@theTrend7

3 жыл бұрын

It may be the glasses....🤣😂

Great video you guys should do more of this

This is great! Well explained, well felt.

I've been playing bass for over 20 years and this entire time I thought "locking on with the kick" was exactly what you guys were doing in your examples that defy that principle. Never thought it was a 1/1 thing, just a "sync the rhythms, start the time segments together" thing lol

These guys have given me so many light bulb moments. You guys are such a great help, keep them coming

Hot topic, thanks guys, simply done and how efficient!

Yes! Meshing with a drummer outside of the "lock with the kick" mentality is such a beautiful thing! Another option is letting the bass player choose the tempo, beat and feel and then the drummer has to lock with them - that can create some very interesting power-duo type grooves.

Nice and good to refresh how to play with other musician Thanks

I actually like following the hi hats when needed. So when it does a galloping rhythm, I’ll follow that on Beats 1 + 4 whilst still going away from locking completely with the drums

I'm not a musician but a Newby pianist trying to improve on my left hand technique. But I wasted a lot of time learning jazz chords without having a complete understanding of triads and music theory. And I discovered the Rule of the Octave, and that led me to learning Thoroughbass. I'm probably preaching to the choir, but Baroque music was taught from the bassline. I'm going back to the beginning to learn my basics. This sounded like a great lesson, and I'll apply it to the cadence exercises I'm trying to learn.

I'd probably buy this course as a stand alone if it was made available. I'm not much in to (because I'm still trying to learn more musical concepts) the advanced musical topics. But this relates 100% with my average Joe bass player experience. Makes me want to go jam with just a drummer. Cheers

Was there playing? I was drooling on that antigua Jazz bass.

So inspiring!

I always enjoy Ian’s videos 👍🏻

I gotta watch that full video. I've been blessed by playing with some great, flexible drummers, and some.... not. It's good to understand your options.

I started with metal. Formative years filling every crevice and opportunity with furious note runs. Drums were there to be locked with, but I was so busy keeping up with the songs identifying the kick specifically to lock with was not on the radar let alone writing bass lines around the drums. Kinda cool now, decades later, to be able to use kick lock as a "trick" in song writing. I guess I approach it differently than most. Above vid starts with the kick lock and shows how to branch off from it where I will occasionally simplify down to it. I certainly lock with my drummer in general, but the spots I drop to or come out of just thumps on the kick thumps creates neat intentional vibe shifts in songs.

Such a great lesson!

That was cool as heck!!

@devinebass

5 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥

Love that!! need more I think for me at least, so do whatever but thanks that was super cool :)

What I rarely see covered well is beat placement between the drummer and bassist. It would be great to hear what it sounds like when, for example the bassist is laying back on the beat or is on top of the beat relative to the drummer and how decisions like that affect the feel of the rhythm section. And most critically, how to learn to hear these subtleties and really dial that pocket in.

@IanMartinAllison

3 жыл бұрын

All in the course!

@UncleWalter1

3 жыл бұрын

@@IanMartinAllison Excellent.

Great topic. Great talk on such. TY

The biggest thing to learn here (imho) is the super respectful and supportive way these guys are communicating! ❤️ It's much more fun to play with nice people, although not really beasts as musicians, than "great musicians ", who aren't so nice people... (Of course you can't always choose with whom you're playing, especially if you need to make a living by playing...) EDIT: these guys, of course, seem to be both great musicians as well as awesome dudes!

Explained soooo many things ..Thank you

Awesome video by both they really understand one another 🎸💜

Really enjoyed this one!

More of these!

Very cool thank you 😊

Discussing feels about rushing and dragging . Working in odd time These kinda videos would be dope

Morecambe and Wise have found funk - love it

At first glance I was like “why does Scott’s voice sounds different while looking different too?” Lol

I’m a drummer turned bassist. Great video. Always felt them two are a partnership. Depending on the music, and how it feels, it’s great to compliment or lock in with each other. Without the rhythm section clicking, the rest of the band falls apart and loses the groove and feel.

@drumsticknuggets5123

11 ай бұрын

Amen

@benoitm9199

8 ай бұрын

Drummers turned bassists are the best bassists.

I'd like to hear about how to discuss with the band the need for sonic space and volume control between all the instruments.

I hate Scott's american accent. I used to love him when he sounded English, I guess its all those New York trips :)

@theTrend7

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

This is why i love music and playing with friends Edit: I didn’t notice that it wasn’t Scott until I read the comments

The chemistry is adorable. Also, top, top content. Really great stuff.

Insightful!

I think it has to be a choice. I sometimes lock with the kick drum because it makes sense in context, but often i will just play 16th notes and let the drummer loose. But also sometimes they'd play something consistent and I use the mentality: I'm always with the drum but the drum isn't always with me.