Great video. Answers questions that I’ve been asking for years. Good job.

@FishingwithNat

8 ай бұрын

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the video.

You made the same point I have been making for years...everyone tells us not to use rings or clips because it is not natural...but we have 2/3 hooks hanging down, a big plastic nose, 2 or 3 colors a fish may not have ever seen and line running from the nose, and don't forget a spinning spoon (yeah, that's natural)....but that ring or that clip will cause the fish not to bite....Hmmmmm.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you, Jim. There are some small lures where a snap, snap swivel, or split ring might have a significant impact on appearance, but I think in most cases it doesn't matter when you consider all the other junk hanging off the lure.

@95GTSpeedDemon

Жыл бұрын

Ya know, i never considered that. I guess its different than using a single J/circle hook and cut bait on the bottom. I have seen twice in two different locations that even bull reds/drum wouldnt bite on braid but hit flouro with the same shrimp on the bottom.

@melbournechub2658

Жыл бұрын

@@95GTSpeedDemon They don’t have time to really inspect and analyze the nuances of a moving lure, but they certainly do with bait just sitting there. Frankly, I’ve seen more issues with saltwater fish like blues, Spanish mac, and stripers, not hitting moving lures tied straight to braid than using a leader with a big swivel. For whatever reason, largemouth bass don’t seem as bothered by direct tying with braid.

@erasamus1057

Жыл бұрын

I have not noticed a difference in catch ups using direct braid floro or even mono even on albis that people say see everything one time during a blitz and I either dropped my leader or left it at the truck I had to tie an epoxy direct and my buddy next to me and I caught the same

@504doe

Жыл бұрын

It's called over thinking and reinventing the wheel... sure a presentation of a lifelike nature native bait fish is top notch however fish can be highly selective and choose not to bite natural things and will go for something that sparks their curiosity.

Replacement arrived!By the way, I did forget to mention that the original lure did have a decent strike however as most anglers will attest you can get a hit kzread.infoUgkxCbNOWAGmn6nfbCbJDmasvBq7J38KZNw2 and fish will hang on and release lure. I used the replacement lure yesterday and ran thru a Shimano Waxwing, Kastmaster, Bobber (set to sink). I found the does run deep (I casting on the flats 3.5'). Make sure you adjust your rate of retrieve and rod tip angle (up) to prevent getting snagged on bottom. Used it a couple of times and action was very lifelike (looked like local bait fish for trevally), craftsmanship very good....however eyeball fell out. I asked for replacement and it is on it's way! It was very easy to change out treble to single inline hook.

@FishingwithNat

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

Very insightful video, the underwater footage is going the extra mile. Thank you Nat!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - I appreciate the feedback.

I’ve been use snaps or tac clips because I’m lazy, many of the guys tell me it makes for a poor presentation, I’ve since started direct tying and never really saw a difference in bites. Thank you for pointing out the treble hooks and other non natural junk that a lure has, I never really thought about it. I’m going back to my lazy way and the heck with the peer pressure.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I use snaps a lot for the same reason. I also fish in really cold conditions (30s and less) where my hands don't work very well and can't tie a knot! Snaps come in handy on those days!

@chuckfinley3152

Жыл бұрын

This is a man of culture right here

@jt_on_youtube

Жыл бұрын

People far overthink stuff like this as well as color and size, if fish are hungry they will eat, period. If they are not hungry, they wont eat, simple as that. I bet if someone logged bite count across hours, you would actually have MORE bites using clips, just bc of time saved retying new lures, you are going to get more casts per hour. Using any of these methods is fine, if fish bite a large piece of moving plastic with 2-3 treble hooks on it and a 2 inch plastic lip...I dont think a 0.01oz metal clip on the front is going to bother them. I go Palomar knot onto a clip and just change baits at will, no cutting, no retying blah blah blah.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@jt_on_youtube Makes sense to me.

@Misiracaltudamecekas-qw8xo

Жыл бұрын

It prevents a line to twist and curl too.

Hadn’t been fishing since I was a kid with my dad. Forgot most of everything. Now I’m taking my boys out and this is the best channel I’ve found for reminding me about the knowledge I lost.

@FishingwithNat

18 күн бұрын

Thank you for that comment. I'm glad my videos are helping you and your boys out!

The best way to attach a lure is... dependant on lure it self. I have got lures that do not work well if there is no swivel + steel fishing line to balance it properly. I am not saying you are wrong, you are right, but only for types of lures you have.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Very true. The answer to so many questions in life is "It depends". Same thing here. The title of the video refers more to the constant debate over what the best way to attach a lure is. Thanks for the comment.

I've always direct tied. If the lure came with a split ring I'd tie to that, if it didn't I'd just tie to the eye. Figured the companies already did enough testing for me anyway. Considered adding a snap purely for the laziness aspect. I might try it a few days and see how it goes. The river I fish isn't super clear so I could probably get away with it. Appreciate the underwater video, that's something I wouldn't be able to easily do myself.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback. Glad you enjoyed the video.

@jessejamesfishing

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree that water clarity has got to be a factor. I’ve heard some anglers talk about minimizing hardware when the water is clear. We don’t have too much crystal clear water here in central NC though.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@jessejamesfishing I agree with minimizing hardware in super clear water. We have some lakes and streams here in the Midwest that are crystal clear with 30+ feet of visibility. I think it's important to maximize the realistic appearance of the bait in those conditions.

@ericstrohmaier6946

6 ай бұрын

If the river is pretty cloudy, don't worry about the clip at all. I use it in rather clear water without issue. Being able to cycle through different colors, sizes, and types of lures to hone in on what works best is a game changer

I just found your channel and I have to say it makes me feel so damn confident as I get into light tackle fishing. I am a very analytical guy so having scientific evidence, side by side comparisons, and slow motion proof is so damn nice. You have an amazing channel and you’re a great scientist. Thanks for doing what you do!!

@FishingwithNat

Ай бұрын

Thank you - I really appreciate your feedback. I'm a skeptical, analytical guy myself and I'm glad you appreciate the work I put into these videos to provide unbiased evidence and comparisons.

The snap is my go to with and without the split ring having that quick lure change is a plus

@tbone6924

Жыл бұрын

I guess if you only chug large lures/bait a snap would be handy, but they are a hinderance to any kind of small/finesse presentation.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@tbone6924 I agree that they have their limitations. I would recommend direct tying with finesse presentations or live bait.

@lafawnduh1543

Жыл бұрын

I lost a 10+ pounder because of the snap. The big bitch literally bent the snap out and bye bye potential PB. Take the time to tie proper knots for the type line used and you won't regret it.

@notsure7874

13 күн бұрын

The split ring is redundant with a snap, I remove them unless I'm direct tying a snug knot to the lure. Try power clips, they're easier, faster, and overall better than regular snaps.

@notsure7874

13 күн бұрын

@@tbone6924 I remove split rings and use power clips. Generally on larger lures for sure, but if the lure already had a split ring its really not adding any extra since I'm removing the split ring. If I'm finesse presenting, I can cut the clip off and tie a loop knot. Easy, fast, efficient.

This is a really great video! I have direct tied and used the factory split ring and snap swivels over the years with good results. I had some issues with the snap rings opening but they were few and far between so I just tie to the lure or the split ring that is attached to the lure. Thank for sharing this and it really does not matter what is used.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - I'm glad you liked it. I've direct tied to split rings plenty of times and usually don't have an issue, but I generally prefer a snap for the quicker/easier lure changes. I appreciate the comment.

@lafawnduh1543

Жыл бұрын

It does matter. I hooked a 10+ pounder on a snap ring with a jitterbug 15 years ago. She bent the snap out in less than 2 seconds after I set the hook. Bye bye PB. Proper knots on different lines is extremely important so research is key. P.s. I was an amateur using 20lb Berkley big game at that moment.

Great underwater demo! I use a snap to the split ring and have no issues catching fish on crankbaits.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I've caught plenty doing the same thing. Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for do the testing for us. I've heard for many years to never use a snap because it was "lazy" or would throw off the action, but at least for this type of lure i now know i don't have to worry.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Saving time or frustration doesn't have to be lazy. I know some older anglers whose eyes have a hard time focusing on their knots so it's really challenging for them. Snaps make fishing a lot less frustrating for them.

@dankjankings7339

Жыл бұрын

Some lures do not deal with fornication like this, I know this for a fact.

@dankjankings7339

Жыл бұрын

Direct tie on lv500 doesn’t work out

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@dankjankings7339 What do you use with the LV500 instead? What happens when you direct tie?

Well done video, thank you for sharing. I'm usually a swivel/split ring guy mainly to save leader and reduce the amount of FG knots to tie. On a start/stop retrieve like a popper or big prop bait a stiff direct tie will keep the line out front and prevent fouling in the belly hook as the loose connection at the swivel, snap or loop will cause the line to hang down. I have also seen too many snaps fail on big fish. One important thing to do is test everything and not rely on manufacturer claims. I have had brand new line fail at half the stated rating, "fifty pound" split rings open like a paper clip with a thirty pound dumbbell and an expensive ball bearing swivel cost me the big fish of a costly trip when I discovered one of the rings wasn't welded. Inspect every bit especially if you're going for more than bass or trout.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Good thoughts. I am always skeptical of manufacturer claims and clever marketing too.

Water clarity is a major factor for me , in central Ohio our lakes can sometimes be very cloudy almost like chocolate milk, less than 12 inches until the lure disappears. The point of attachment is then not as important as sound and vibration. Keep experimenting and remember to keep track of what works, but we’ve all had days where it seems nothing will and others when you swear they would hit a bare hook.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Extra hardware probably matters very little in really dirty/cloudy water. And I have caught bluegills, perch, and largemouth on bare hooks before. Sometimes they will strike just about anything!

I am glad that I found this channel. I have been going through all the videos. I have loved fishing for years. Unfortunately, I realized how little I actually knew. I am changing out the stock reel on a medium light combo rod I bought some years ago. I think it will greatly improve the rod along with knowing the type of fish the rod is best suited. Great channel!!

@FishingwithNat

7 ай бұрын

Thank you and welcome! Glad you're enjoying the videos.

I find this video both informative, and hilarious. So many anglers I've had discussions with in regards to "best way to rig," will fight tooth and nail based on their personal beliefs or opinions. "it MUST be rigged this way for best action!"...well after watching this practical video, I see absolutely no major differences. Now granted, this underwater test only used one style of bait, but the premise remains valid. TLDR - knot choice, swivels, snap-ons, or split-rings have little to no effect on hard bait action. Do what's best for YOUR style of fishing, I like the method of using snap-on to quickly exchange baits, why? because I'm a lazy angler myself lol...

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Well said. I'll experiment more beyond crankbaits this year and various methods of attachment.

I'm glad I watched this. I asked many fishing buddies, more experienced than me, if I should use swivels or tie straight on to the lures. They all said "tie directly." Now, I'd rather use swivels since they are NOT detrimental to the lure action. Wahi' Valleys

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching - glad you enjoyed the video.

Actually I'm often coming back to watch your show, seeking answers to my doubts or being able to spot my past mistakes ☝again the very first words you just said on this video 👍should help anyone who is keen to try an alternative approach / keep up Nat and thank you again 👍

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching - glad you enjoyed this one!

I change out the round split rings to oval split rings. It prevents the line from getting in the split ring. It works really well action wise also.

@FishingwithNat

9 ай бұрын

Good idea. The ovals are a good alternative to standard round ones.

I'm 50years old and I've been using the swivel and split-ring for 25 some years. It really helps a ultra-light spinning reel,to prevent help prevent line twist. The baits do move more freely with more lifelike action. It makes it fairly easy to change lures too,once you get used to the split rings

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Do you use this method with multiple types of lures, or do you change your methods between crankbaits and other types of lures?

@B166ER420

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat The swivel and ring is most convenient with crankbaits.Yeah you can put a split ring on a worm hook too😜,I've done it.split ring pliers helps a lot. You know about using aluminum tape to correct funny swimming crankbaits.. or to make a floating lure a suspending one👍 Soaking your mono(works best the heavier mono you use) 24hrs before you spool helps keep mono flexible. Or even using a dab a of superglue to help keep baits on your hooks(works best with ultra lights)or on knots tied.😎😎😎✌️

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@B166ER420 Good tips. Good luck on the water!

@teeanahera8949

8 ай бұрын

I don’t understand how you would get line twist with a lure that does not spin. Put a spinning lure like a Celta and no swivel invented will stop line twist with that.

@teeanahera8949

8 ай бұрын

In Australia it is most common to use a swivel with permanently attached clip to connect to the split ring on the lure. The fish don’t care and I like the extra few grams to cast the lure a little farther.

I will going to try this, Thanks for sharing it. FISH ON 🐠

@FishingwithNat

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Good luck fishing!

As a novice, this video is extremely helpful. Thank you!!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

Great video! The underwater helps so much! I have been using the snap only for a while now and no bad results i can notice. I thing though with it is that you have to make sure the snap has a good rounded bottom for the lure to rock in like a crankbait snap like in the video or a duolock. . The snaps that have a pointy-er end like a coast lock do have noticeable impact on the lure action.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the rounded-bottom snaps too. Thanks for the comment.

Wow, very impressive the action of the lures with the trilene knot. People always avoid snug knots because of the negative impact on the lure action, but this video makes that affirmation nonsense... Thanks for making this great content.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

It seems like the lures have enough mass to them that they can continue their action quite well regardless of the way they are attached. Thanks for the comment.

Thanks to this video I'll be removing the ring, and keep using a swivel. I find tying 4 to 6 pound test challenging. Thank you for the video. Hi Nat!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I've removed most of the rings from my crankbaits too, and I tend to use a snap in its place. I like the convenience of a snap with crankbaits.

@leoveroude4492

Жыл бұрын

Can only bring so many fishing rods (2-3 in my case) so that makes total sense.

Arguably one of the best of the best fishing channels on KZread. I won't argue. Damn fine content sir. You obviously possess the skill and know how. Along with the ability to present the material in a way that I find myself emerced. Kinda like listening to one of my old favorite teachers. Thank you very sincerely . Btw....I don't even have to mention I'm a new subscriber. Great videos. Just outstanding videos. Thanks again.

@FishingwithNat

9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I really appreciate the comment. Welcome to the channel!

This is an awesome video cos I've wondered about all those very options, many thanks ❤

@FishingwithNat

22 күн бұрын

Excellent. Thanks for the feedback.

The comments below about water clarity are pretty much spot on. For me, overall I've had better luck with tying firmly directly to the lure, often using a fluorocarbon leader. In murky water, I worry less about the line or a snap being seen. With a spinning reel, I like a swivel between the leader and the main line. My general choice though is either a small snap right to the lure, or tie it on securely. On several of my go-to lures though I keep them tied with a short length of fluorocarbon leader and I just switch out the lure and leader when I need to change baits. I found this the fastest way to make the change and not to lose any leader length. The swivel or snap swivel ahead of the leader are far less likely to be seen by the fish. Most of the water here is cedar water and fairly shallow, so leader sensitive fish can be picky on bright sunny days too. Another trick that someone showed me once was to use a short leader ahead of the lure with a snap swivel, camouflaged by a bit small hackle or skirt to give the impression of a fish chasing a meal. I found a few particular areas where that works really well as a bass will take advantage of a 'distracted' fish.

@FishingwithNat

8 ай бұрын

I do believe that distracted prey look enticing to a predator. That's a neat trick with a skirt over the snap swivel.

@Schnazola

8 ай бұрын

I fish in cedar water, too. Jersey Pine Barrens, mostly. I use braid for the mainline and a fluoro leader, which I tie together with a double uni knot. I have been amused on more than one occasion to see bluegills chasing the stupid knot-only to be chased by a bass or pickerel!

@FishingwithNat

8 ай бұрын

@@Schnazola I believe it. Thanks for sharing!

This was a great tutorial on different lures and tackle! Thank you sir!!!

@FishingwithNat

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I appreciate the feedback.

A snap seems like the best choice for me, thank you! Looking to build a box and try it all bit by bit! Tysm

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Snaps are very convenient and great for beginners

Great video. I think I will try the snap since i can swap lures quicker. I hate tying on lure after lure. Also, like you said, the lure already hooks and a bill that's not natural. Very good point.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Good luck on the water!

I'm going with a snap for lure changing convenience. Thanks for all of the underwater shots! John McHatton

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good plan to me. Thanks for the feedback.

@youcamrii

Жыл бұрын

Hey John, can you let me know how using a snap has gone for you? I am considering using them

@cmchatton1680

Жыл бұрын

Cam, I use the VMC Crankbait snaps. They can be a little tough to open, but I've had no problems with them breaking or popping open. I would go with a heavier pound test snap than you need. I would not use them for stripers, muskies, etc. Powerful fish like that might be able to open or break them.

@youcamrii

Жыл бұрын

@@cmchatton1680 Thank you for the info. Do you use pliers to open and close them or do you just slip the lure in like a paperclip? I was also looking at TA power clips. Might get both VMC and TA to try.

love the underwater action shots.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the underwater footage!

👏Good video, thxs , always swivel+ring is my preference

@FishingwithNat

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your preference. I appreciate it.

Awesome video! Thanks!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - glad you liked it!

Thank you. Very informative.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment.

good stuff man. i lost 3 big halibuts and lures trying to figure this out. Now I know it doesn't really matter....so I can beef my stuff up and pull one in. I'm tieing knots now those halibuts pulled those snap swivels open. whoo hoo the next one is not getting away.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment and good luck with the next halibut!

Very important analysis. Nice work!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment.

wooww the best tutorial video i seen.....thanks for sharing👀👀👀👀godblesssss🙏🙏🙏🙏

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the comment.

Super helpful!

@FishingwithNat

3 ай бұрын

Excellent - thanks for the feedback

Great video!! WAS wondering about this stuff. I'm a snap guy myself. The ol' eyeballs ain't what they used to be and I like to be able to switch between lures fast and efficiantly

@FishingwithNat

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Snaps are super convenient if you don't have great vision or even if there just isn't much light.

Bottom line......they all work. Thx 4 the vid.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

Very interesting results. I've been using clips for years and I am definitely lazy. It makes me feel good to know it wasn't in vain. :)

@FishingwithNat

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

Fantastic video!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment

Split ring plus snap for all crank baits, solid jerk baits and almost all hard lures. Saves a lot of time, money, energy and frustration. Plus if you need more hunt action or more rattling noise, split ring to swivel clip. I even hit mine with UV nail polish or glittery nail polish. Bait eating something is a double snack to a small minded fish.

@FishingwithNat

4 ай бұрын

I can't argue with that!

great video, thanks.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - I appreciate the feedback.

MOST AMAZING VIDEO EVER!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - I really appreciate the feedback

Great underwater video thanks. You might like to put your trebles on the other way. You get a lot of hook damage with the way they are. Often with trebles when you hold them up the shank will be running down one side. Generally its the right side so this is the way you pput them on the rings. It allows 2 hooks to sit snug on the belly and not damage the paint work. Thanks again for the great vid. 🎣🎣👍👍

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Good tip - those are the original trebles from the factory. Thanks for the comment.

wow ..the best tutorial video.. thanks for sharing my friend..

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

Good insight ,im gona try split ring & clip combo ive grown away from snap swivels

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

As a deckhand on a verrrrry active walleye charter that runs 120+ trips a year on Erie I can tell you this, uni knot or other slip style knots do not hold up to constant use, Palomar knot is the only thing that's tried and true, the tried and true for cranks is the duo lock right to the bait, and a coast lock snap swivel to a spoons or baits that spin. If your using any kind of diver use a bigger coast lock swivel attached to the mainline to your diver, than a 6ft lead with a coast lock swivel and a duo lock on the other end you can flip that leader to run different baits. Tying into a bait you will 100% lose more baits! Always use a Palomar knot!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@Gatorraider

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat great video good luck in your adventures

You hit the nail on the head when talking about extra hardware. The hooks and rings are defamatory the most noticeable no matter which method a fisherman uses.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Thanks for the feedback.

🤘 awesome video

@FishingwithNat

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

This the first video that makes sense. simple connections👍

@FishingwithNat

2 ай бұрын

Thanks - glad you enjoyed it!

As a test I was fishing with swivels a metal leader, used a senco, jigs and spoons to see if the fish would bite with all that hardware attached, I ended up catching a bunch of bass and walleye 😂 decent fish! to me your video is spot on…if a fish wants to bite what your throwing it will if it doesn’t than it won’t. We give fish to much credit I think.

@FishingwithNat

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your test results!

Thanks, very nice video

@FishingwithNat

3 ай бұрын

Thanks - glad you enjoyed it!

thanks. i've always wondered what the best way to do nthis was, and now i still do.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Haha thanks for the comment. The main point was simply that the difference in lure action was subtle between all of these methods, but other factors like convenience and how long it takes you to tie a knot should also be considered.

And Mr. Fish would agree. I don't think it matters how you connect your lure, if the fish is hungry they will bite. I normally connect with a uni with my main which is power pro but lately have been using split rings for my plugging setup and I still get bites. And to be honest, knot tying is as fundamental to fishing as is casting. If you can't tie fishing knots you are not a fisherman or woman. Another great and informative video. I really liked the underwater view of the lures in action. Mahalo for the video. See you on the next one.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Well said. Thanks for the feedback.

When I was a little boy, my Dad showed me the simplest loop in the world and I have used that one method in my 65 years as a fisherman for everything from bluegills to large ocean fish, and it has NEVER let me down. This loop can tie on any hook or lure, AND it can be removed as well.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like there's no reason to change now!

@PreparedCitizen1996

Жыл бұрын

What's it called

@azzir325

Жыл бұрын

@@PreparedCitizen1996 We never called it anything except "a loop." Works for everything from 2 lb test mono to rope, and I have caught everything from bluegills to large ocean fish. Never had one fail, and you can scale it up as large as you want to. Use it with rope to attach an anchor. AND, it's generally removeable.

@PreparedCitizen1996

Жыл бұрын

@@azzir325 appreciate it

@TheZenoah

8 ай бұрын

I agree I use my own loop and never had let me down I can garantee it with 30 years experience. More things that make more risk to loose the lure, and higher chance to get stuck more often

Back in the day we used to silver solder split rings as they open up on the whoppers. But interesting results well done.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea. Thanks for the feedback.

Thank you. Verry interesting

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - glad you enjoyed the video.

@quasimodo5177

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat yes. Thank you.

Now we know, I was always semi confident it did not matter to me but I feel re-assured now !!

@FishingwithNat

Ай бұрын

Great - thanks for the comment!

I'm thinking this video has convinced me to remove the split ring and run snaps for most situations. With a snap, it appears the split ring being there is a redundancy. Awesome video!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I agree that the split ring and snap seem to be redundant and you really only need one of them. If you only have one, it makes sense to use the one that is most convenient for switching lures.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@Never Mind Yeah a solid ring would be fine to tie to because there is no sharp end of the wire to damage your line/knot. Leaders are not always long - sometimes they are only 6-12 inches long for bite resistance. Re-tying could mean you need to tie another leader.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@Never Mind Interesting idea. Why not grab the fish directly if you aren't using a net? I try to keep hooked fish out of my kayak to avoid the risk of a flopping fish thrashing hooks around my legs.

Good video. The reason I tie it direct is that I saltwater fish a bunch and the leader get weak and fryed pretty much every toothy fish. This resulting in me having to cut the leader shorter and retie often. In freshwater I totally agree No need to tie directly most of thr time.

@FishingwithNat

2 ай бұрын

Makes sense.

I prefer a wirebite leader with uniknot directly to a split ring, or a very small loop knot on the eye of the rig. Then 9 feet of nylon to braid, or entire nylon behind. Catches very well. Believe me when I say I tried everything and went several ways 2 weeks at a time almost fishless with other options. My species are northern pike, browntrout, seatrout, roach, perch and salmon

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Generally, I use a snag knot or loop knot with the factory split ring. If there is no factory ring, I'll usually use a loop knot tied directly to the lure. I like to minimize the front end hardware. I acknowledge the view that multiple treble hooks are already a lot of hardware on a lure (so adding a bit more shouldn't matter), however, I think that the way the hooks are usually oriented they may look like fins when in motion. Front-end hardware probably looks less natural.

@FishingwithNat

Ай бұрын

That's a reasonable point. The hooks certainly could look something like a fin/tail as they sway back and forth. Thanks for the comment.

@seand6707

Ай бұрын

Appreciate your videos, as a sea kayaking angler, changing lures often us essential. Never used snaps until I saw this and it became a game changer

I like the 4-way video. Much easier to compare action.

@FishingwithNat

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback - I appreciate it.

Thanks!

@FishingwithNat

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the support!

I’ve been using a snap ring for 20+ years. I laugh when people say that it scares the fish, meanwhile you have giant treble hooks and a 2 inch plastic nose on the front. It’s 200x better than buying another rod just be able to fish 2 different lures.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I agree. The snap usually has a minimal effect on lure appearance compared to the trebles or lip.

This helped alot

@FishingwithNat

Ай бұрын

Great - thanks for the feedback!

O detalhe conta muito. Obrigado pelo vídeo.😊

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. Thanks for the feedback.

Great information ++

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment.

thank you so much for this! I have been wondering and debating about this for quite a while. I only bank fish and live in central Florida. the amount of lost lures leads me to throwing mostly texas and wacky rigs. I want to try the jerks, cranks and swim baits more. it's just that the baits are expensive, and I get no financial compensation whether it catches or gets hung up and breaks off. to put it in perspective, the place I got to fish closest to my work, (in the first week of december mind you) has about 10 feet of vegetation, out from the bank. it is so thick, I see birds walking on it, and I ain't talking about parakeets or finches either. I mostly save the exposed hook lures for when I can get out on a dock. I have had many "weedless" jigs, spinners, and chatter baits hung up and broke off. WAY too many! so, no more split rings, loop knots for me, direct tie palomar or modified uni for me, from now on.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

@bushleague3472

Жыл бұрын

I do lots of shore fishing, IMO leave the cranks in the boat.The way a crankbait achieves its depth its totaly oposite to the needs of a shore caster, and the lip/ multiple hooks pick up weeds like crazy. Besides plastics, IMO spoons are the best. Change out the treble for a single hook and they run pretty weedless, you can add a plastic trailer if desired. Spinners are good too, same thing with the hooks and trailers, and spinner baits are also good.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@bushleague3472 I agree, although cranks can work well if the dropoff is fairly steep or if the bottom is rocky/gravelly. Bouncing cranks off of rocks is a great way to entice a strike. Spinners, spinnerbaits, and plastics are great from banks with a shallower dropoff. Spoons can be casted a mile and can be lifted higher in the water column as it gets closer to the bank so there is less risk of getting snagged. I definitely agree with the use of a single hook if there is a lot of vegetation around.

@bushleague3472

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat Even on a steep drop, unless you have something that can be counted down, your crank will be relatively shallow when it is over the deepest water, by the time you crank it down its part way in... better to count down a spoon right at the end of your cast, and rip jig it back at the destired depth IMO. That said, I occasionally use cranks over rocks before the weeds grow in, and they work. I use them a fair bit from the boat too. IMO the key to shore fishing is staying mobile (the most major difference between typical boat and shore fishing success rates IMO), so I generally dont cary anything that only works in specific situations... pick your water body wisely, travel light as possible, and cover lots of ground. I own a boat and a few canoes, but many years my biggest fish are caught from shore.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@bushleague3472 Good thoughts. I mostly fish from kayaks but when I fish from shore, I have a rod or two and everything else in a backpack. That keeps me easily mobile.

I use small but good quality/strong red snaps. Quick easy lure changes and good movement. I change out most my treble hooks for red ones as well. There are days when I see little to no difference but others it’s a big plus.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good plan. I've used some red treble hooks and red single hooks but haven't noticed a substantial difference in my waters around here.

@kross1261

Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s strange how certain lakes often do better with certain baits. One small lake in northern Minnesota the eyes loved the no longer made Berkley deep firesticks but in perch with red treble hooks and even the entire bill colored red with permanent marker. Out caught anything else 2 to 1 or better.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@kross1261 Interesting. I was out yesterday trolling crankbaits with a couple of friends and the only thing that caught fish between all of our lines was a Flicker Shad 5 in one specific pattern. That bait caught 8 pike and no other bait had any strikes, although I did get one 42.5" musky at the end of the night on a similar Flicker Shad. It was the only bite I had all day.

@kross1261

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat yes its one of the many things that makes fishing such a challenge. When I go out trolling usually for eyes but sometimes musky we are always switching lures until we find what they want. Sometimes it’s the style bait but many times it’s color. Once we figure it out (if we do) we switch everything out to match the bite. One reason I have such a plethora of lures. And the consistently good lure you have to have 2-3 in case you get bit off. It can get expensive but I’m sure you can relate.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@kross1261 I can definitely relate. My wife saw my stack of lure boxes a few days ago and was a little shocked. (she didn't notice the other stack across the room) 😆

I like usin just straight clip to the lure no ring, I take em off all the time. Less hardware in front less weight and quick to changes out lures. Good vid

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good plan to me. Thanks for the feedback.

@seanp9157

Жыл бұрын

That paper clip style ones? I use those on most baits, especially big swimbaits. The only time I tie direct direct is to a jig, or jig hook swimbaits.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@seanp9157 Those are a solid choice too. I also use snaps a lot but tie direct to jigs or live bait.

@seanp9157

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat right?!? I feel like you really need that straight connection of tying straight to the hook on big single-hook baits like a jig, live bait or soft plastics. Actually, with soft plastics I've been using flipping hooks with a snell knot for a while now. Great fish action with a sliding weight when it hits the flipping hook. Also a good hookset with the line wrapped around the shank.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@seanp9157 I agree

From the start, I have been tying a swivel directly to my leader. So i can change from hook, to lure or a sabiki in a flash. It saves from cutting the leader and retie everytime

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not a fan of wasting leader and spending time retying either.

I tie direct, and dont remove spilt rings. I feel that it doesnt matter what you use in open water.. but when you're around cover/grass, anything but directly tying is just another object that can get snagged. I also think that removing/adding weight to the front can/will affect the action of jerkbaits.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Definitely - I would agree. I like the convenience of snaps, but they definitely increase the amount of vegetation that gets caught up on the rig.

@Schnazola

Жыл бұрын

"anything but directly tying is just another object that can get snagged" Boom.

Great video , I always tie direct to the gibbs minnow with a 6 turn clinch knot.8 lb mono. I like the sleek look of no hardware .

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Right on - do you use the Gibbs as a jigging spoon or for casting? Any issues with line twist from it?

@townieoutdoors8121

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat casting .as far as I can tell no problem.

@townieoutdoors8121

Жыл бұрын

3/4 oz gibbs the trout love the small slender profile

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@townieoutdoors8121 OK, cool. I get a lot of twist with vertical jigging spoons (you can see the jigging spoon rolling in slow-motion as it falls in our How Spoons Work video). kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYd1ls-CYbizn7g.html That's cool that the Gibbs works well for casting too.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@townieoutdoors8121 Good tip - thanks :) I'll be chasing some brookies and rainbows this weekend but will probably start with a Rooster Tail.

I always found the most inhibiting or freeing factor to lure life is line size or added weight. Sometimes I use the split ring or snap to get the nose of a crankbait or swimbait down more. If I need better action then I drop the line size.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Line weight or added split shots or other weight can have some effect on the action. I haven't found a snap or split ring to have much effect but that would depend on the size of those items relative to the crankbait's size and balance point.

I agree. Novice or not, a very useful video. Thank you for sharing. I think others may now make a more informed decision. Well done. Cheers 👍🏻

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

That was the goal. Thanks for the comment.

Snap for the win!!!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I use snaps a lot and appreciate their convenience.

Good video ! Keep work on it

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

This topic has been talked about a lot on another well known and ahem, strong salt water fishing channel with the general consensus being the loop knot is preferred method of attaching an action hard bait to get the best action. I would still like to see more types of hard baits (glide baits, poppers etc). The bib and body shape of a crank bait pretty much counters any attachment method so I think it would be good to try this tests with lures that need more finesse to achieve the best action.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback and suggestion. Sounds like a fun topic for an upcoming video.

@expomm

Жыл бұрын

From the footage of man anglers it seems to me there are not much differences, maybe the only difference might be on jerkbaits, the action could be different when twitching, jerking. So for me Imll go for a snap, just for convenience

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@expomm I agree. It would be worth testing some topwater baits too, and maybe some other baits.

i like the idea of swivel-split ring-lure for lake trout. they often gator roll and get wrapped up. im hoping this will help

@FishingwithNat

4 ай бұрын

Yeah the swivel could help a lot with that.

I fish with a steel leader up in Ontario and we catch a TON of fish. I usually just direct tie on deep runners and countdowns and use a leader when targeting big pike specifically. But I've caught everything on a crank with a steel leader. If the fish are biting, they're biting.

@FishingwithNat

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the discussion

Thank you for the video! Been a long time i went fishing and its a great refresher. This years vacation im visiting the mediterranean sea, any recommendations which wobbler to use for saltwater fish?

@FishingwithNat

11 ай бұрын

I'm a long way from saltwater so I really don't have any experience with saltwater fishing.

I’ve never had an issue using snaps. An old fisherman once told me that the only thing that’s really going to mess with lures is the type of fishing line being used. Braid tends to float more and mono not so much

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I use snaps often for their convenience when I want to try a lot of different lures.

I never noticed a difference except saving line from not having to constantly cut and re-tie. I run a fluorocarbon leader tied to a snap swivel. I can switch lures in a few seconds and it never stopped me from catching multiple fish. The only time I tie on lures is during finesse fishing or creek trouting where you do need a very realistic, subtle presentation.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I think that's a good strategy.

Hi friends, if understand right, it doesn't matter how to tie the lure. Nice work!

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

That's more or less my conclusion too. All of these methods to tie on a lure have their place, but the effect on lure action and appearance seems minimal regardless of the way you tie it on.

What few know what is in the design: How it flies; How it floats. Anything you add or remove from the tow ring changes CG or weight and balance. I make lures. First, drop the new one in a bucket, observe how it floats. Now add your snap swivel and line, float retest, I bet it goes nose down it it doesn't sink entirely. Now take the split ring off, tie on leader, repeat rinse. Then evaluate. Is it nose up or won't dive? You can also change weight and balance by changing out sizes of hooks. For those that change the originals for bigger have no clue how it effects casting flight or floating or the swimming and diving characteristics. Lastly, take off treble hooks go to J hooks or Octopus. See how an offset hook turns the action to the side or makes it loop at high speed. If you crank and pause and the lure looks unnatural the fish may avoid entirely. A bait that turns on it's head or tail and sinks does not replicate a minnow; It should come to a stop and retain it's hover horizontally, not vertically; it's not a Senko; IMO. The world of Options is before you. CUONO

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Good thoughts. I like to remove the split ring and replace it with a snap of similar size/weight. Then the bait's balance and center of gravity are as intended.

@MrCobb-rq8iv

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat Perfect, grin, it seems irrelative on a constant retrieve and it may prove that in the lab, but when you stop cranking, gravity VS lift drag just like airplane occur. Stall spin etc. In our case somewhat spiral to bottom or surface dependent on line twist etc.

Loop knot gang forever

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

@finnafishfl

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat NO!

Very nice

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

On the four way split screen, it looks like the bottom right has more, or faster movement. But that, like you said earlier in the video, can be good or bad. To me, it's all personal preference. I like swivels because they can help manage line twist. I catch fish with and without them though. It's all presentation of the bait, lure color for the time of year and blah blah blah. I don't think line to lure connection matters much as long as the knot used is good.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Good points.

@joshuaglaude1549

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat thanks for the content.

I like the norman speed clips. super easy and fast.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

I've heard lots of good things about those but recently have heard about some breaking. Have you had any issues with them breaking?

@phis.750

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat ive only been using them for the last year, i habe not had any break on me, they have a small size and a big soze and they have both held up well. ive been using the same one for a couple months at a time.

@FishingwithNat

Жыл бұрын

@@phis.750 Awesome, that sounds great. Do the packages have a pound-test rating on them? It seems like everyone just sells a regular size and a large size but there is no strength rating provided.

@phis.750

Жыл бұрын

@@FishingwithNat I never really looked for a rating for them. not sure if there is or not.

I’ve had multiple pros tell me that as long as the hardware isn’t way oversized for the bait as to make it look unreasonable, there is virtually no difference between trying directly on or using a snap.

@FishingwithNat

4 ай бұрын

Sounds reasonable

In short less is more, and being able to quick change with cold wet hands is good 👍

@FishingwithNat

6 ай бұрын

That is true.

On almost all of my baits I tie directly to the lure with an advanced clinch knot. But, with large glide baits and some large ( 2+ oz ) swimbaits, I use a clip.

@FishingwithNat

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

I bought those pliers with the tooth couple of days ago, now I know what they're for 😅

@FishingwithNat

9 ай бұрын

Yep. They are good for removing split rings.

norman speed clip. I have used both the norman and knock off of norman speed clips and have had a lot of success.

@FishingwithNat

5 ай бұрын

Those are good. I compared them to other styles of snaps in a video last year all about snaps and their pro/cons. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIFhz897g8Lff5c.html