Great Review Brian, it's always a pleasure watching your videos.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much.

Thanks for your review Brian. Now I need to save up for the Super Deluxe set. It looks amazing.

Agreed, George's contributions are phenomenal...his artistry shines here. Also, picked up the deluxe edition. Wonderful addition to my Fab collection.

Great Review Man! Loving the set I think my favorite outtake is the Hey Jude Take 1. I thought the same thing about the box design initially but they look pretty gre at on the shelf together. Love your videos keep up the great work.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks so much. Hey Jude take 1 is really cool. Love how so early on in the songs life, Paul was already screaming that end bit.

5:10 They always had a belief that something good would happen for them as a band. When things seemed bleak, a sudden change would come and they would thrive again. That's what Paul means in his forward about "I dunno, something will happen.....and it did". "It did", of course, means their eternal success.

There are many factors to consider when it comes to listening to the album on vinyl. First would be the dynamics: You mentioned the CD's are louder, therefore there's some heavy compression applied to the master. Compression can bring everything to the front as there are less peaks and valleys to the sound form. You can't have too much compression on vinyl or your needle starts skipping, and it would require deeper grooves. This is why vinyl always has a soft sort of mid-rangy sound to it. All you have to do is use the volume knob slightly higher than you would on your CD. Second, the record player itself: The sound of the vinyl will depend on whether you have, not only a great record player, but also an audiophile quality cartridge and stylus. Cartridges and stylus vary, some are too hot, some mellow, some are brighter, etc. On top of that, you also need to consider the phono preamp you're using and the speakers it will come out on. You're basically dealing with physical/analog components unlike the CD where it's all just read in ones and zeroes--therefore any system will arguably give the same results. I would be cautious about how we compare the two mediums without talking about these factors. Nevertheless, you did a great job at sharing your listening experience as well as your well thought out review of the packaging. I do have a few gripes but all in all Giles definitely did an excellent job!

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

NOSUCHVideos great info here. Thanks for the comment!

@tonywillans7556

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking this also as Brian was comparing. I have a very good high end system. Both CDP and turntable are great replay machines. However, the tt always wins out because to my ears it's more natural sounding. It doesn't force the music into my ears like digital tends to do. Also, turntables have a lot more components that can be changed by the listener. Cartridge, tonearm, platter mats, plinth, cables, phonostage will all affect the sound. Apart from the power cord, output leads and supports, there's not much that can be done to a cdp. I don't want to sound all audiophile git about it, but Brian, you may be just 'hearing' your system with regards to the 'clarity' issue you're experiencing with the vinyl.

@justinparkman3585

2 жыл бұрын

True I see a lot of people judging vinly with a rega p3 not saying its not a good turntable I think you need at least a a rega p10 to start judging not that I own one but when you move up the chain things do get better.

Very interesting review,Brian!!

Meu álbum preferido dos Beatles e de toda a história do ROCK !!! Natal - Brazil !

Hi Brian. Very good review. I listened the new remixed White Album and I agree with you that Giles Martin did a great job, but for me, it wasn’t perfect. Some details in the songs are a vital part of them (like Ringo shouting “I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!) I cannot believe that now that phrase it’s so quiet, and in the background. I thought that Ringo’s scream was gonna break the speakers, but … I don’t know, it’s weird that this part its so low volume. Other thing that bothers me, it’s the sound of tambourine so low on “Happiness is a Warm Gun”. When John sings “Mother Superior jump the guuun” in the mono version, and stereo too, the tambourine it’s wild, and I like that a lot, but in this remix, again Giles Martin makes them almost inaudible. What a shame. He certainly did PERFECT remixes, like Savoy Truffle and Piggies and I’m So Tired (with Paul’s voice more prominent, like the original mono mix). Anyway, I’m sure that you cannot make everybody happy with these releases. Cheers Brian, and I hope that you can upload a second part of your review, because there’s so many things to comment on this release.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

I do agree that "I"ve got blisters on my fingers" is too quiet. In the book that comes with the deluxe set it says that Ringo's comment about his blisters was captured on the drum microphones. This doesn't excuse it, but perhaps that's why he kept it at the same volume as the rest of the drums in the mix. I'll have to listen to "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" again and keep an ear out for the tambourine. Didn't strike me as low, but I wasn't listening for it specifically. I've listened to the remixed album about 4 times now and already I want to make another video discussing what's new in the mixes and what's now either gone, or very quiet. Thanks for your comment!

very well said. overall i love the clarity and detail. george's skilled, tasteful, and powerful guitar playing, and the details of while my guitar gently weeps, brought tears to my eyes. but, i absolutely love george martin, but his son's remixes reveal his limitations: these reissues/remixes absolutely crush it. they reveal a tight, powerful, r&b band at their core, something george's pop production only hinted at.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Brandon Nelson thanks for the comment. In George Martins defense he didn’t have the technology that his son does. Giles is able to take each and every instrument and EQ/raise or lower the volume/ and pan where ever he pleases. His Dad was stuck with only 8 tracks a lot of them with multiple instruments per track.

I picked up the deluxe cd box set and it’s brilliant. Like you, I too closed my eyes and felt like I was in Abbey Road 50 years ago sitting in on a session......amazing👍

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

It really is fantastic!

I agree with you on Paul’s “We, The Beatles.” I wondered if he blacked out or had a stroke there in the second paragraph. Haha

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

haha yes it just didn't seem to relate much to the white album.

Great review Brian!

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Really loving the "sessions' CDs.

a word about the words "record" and "album" ... a _record_ is just that, a RECORD of something that happened... it doesn't matter what the format is... whether it's analog tape, digital tape, phonograph, CD, MP3, whatever; they are ALL records... so you're not wrong to call a CD a _record..._ similarly, an _album_ is a COLLECTION of songs... the word goes back before the LP phonograph, when 78RPM phonographs only held 1 song per side... an ALBUM was a group of discs presented in a "book" that looked very much like a photo album... that name stuck when 33 1/3RPM phonographs allowed many songs on a single disc... so, a CD can be an album, as can a collection of computer files... thanks for the vid!

I’m planning on getting the Cd box at Christmas. I listened to the vinyl last night and thought it sounded good. I had to crank the hi end quite a bit but it didn’t make it sound brittle.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Darren, you will love the box. It's one of the best box sets I've ever laid my hands on. As for the vinyl, I did the same thing when listening to mine. Cranked up the hi's and added a little bit of over all volume and then it seemed great. Thanks for the comment!

Here’s hoping for an abbey road anniversary set!

I love the 'clarity' in this review.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

let me clarify the clear clarity of this clearly great collection.

@Missjunebugfreak

5 жыл бұрын

@@BrianBringelson By all means thank you for that important clarification of the clearness in this release. Also kudos to you mentioning how much George shined on this album. He's definitely underrated.

The second paragraph of Paul's essay is more metaphor. He tells the story of the band being young and starting out and their van is broken down on the side of the road, then "Something will happen." Without connecting the dots for us, Paul is comparing that incident and their attitude about it to where the band was in 1968. Their manager had died, they'd had a somewhat confusing experience in India, the studio was tense with Yoko there and for other reasons, their own record label was just starting and business was stressful...the traditional "Beatles van" was on the side of the road, and yet, something happened. They made a great record out of the chaos that was happening. I like that this little write-up is not as literal as his Sgt. Pepper intro. It suits the White Album that his intro for it is more disconnected and mysterious and makes you think!

I see you with the Doubble Donkey Disc.

@henryve5625

4 жыл бұрын

No one needs to know

You like the vinyl because you like the added stylus-in-groove distortion. Add a tube amp and you'll get even more distortion. Vinyl adds distortion between source and ear.

I am so glad you got this . Thank you for talking about it all . It is a lot to take in that is for sure . I am still going threw it all . !!! Thanks !!!

Very interesting that you feel the CDs are better sounding than the Vinyl. This is why I'm not giving up on CDs. "Yer Blues" was a real revelation here for me too. However, "Helter Skelter" to me was a major letdown and a missed opportunity to make it even dirtier, more intense.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

In a way I know what you mean about "Helter Skelter". I enjoyed your review where you mentioned that one guitar part (the crunchy one) that could have been boosted to give the song a heavier feel. Totally agree with that. I will say that I think the vocals (lead & backing), drums, bass, & sound effects (saxophones, yelling, etc) really sound great now. Can't believe I enjoy the CDs more than the LPs. Thanks for your comment!

@o.b.v.i.u.s

5 жыл бұрын

dynamic range of CDs is _much_ higher than vinyl...

@matthewrodriguez6352

5 жыл бұрын

obvi•US plus during the record mastering process, an engineer who was not involved in the recording has to adjust and usually turn down the bass and treble so the record doesn’t skip. Which doesn’t take place during compact disc production.

@macmiles278

5 жыл бұрын

I have the vinyl 4 lp set and it sounds fantastic. I do like the sound of the cds as well.

My theory is there will be a remixed and reissued edition of Past Masters so that's why they didn't include the master single versions of "Hey Jude," "Revolution," "Lady Madonna" or "The Inner Light" on this White Album box set. Apple doesn't want to make Past Masters, a big seller for the label, obsolete by "giving away" the remixed singles on these album-centric box sets. So they split the difference and give us some outtakes, but are saving all of the masters for a deluxe Past Masters in the near future. A total $ decision on their part, but at least it makes sense. "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "Penny Lane" are not on Past Masters, so they were fair game for including on the Sgt. Pepper box set.

Still deciding whether to get this, over a year later - - this is the 3rd time I've watched this review and still undecided. The book is a temptation. But the price, the price! I find the White Album 2nd rate compared to 4 or 5 other Beatles albums, you see, and I already have Esher bootleg.

@CarlC9898

2 жыл бұрын

It got a price drop on Amazon recently

I have the pepper 2cd and vinyl and 1 cd and vinyl and they all came with that write up. The 2cd came with a sweet little booklet that was like 40 pages n really thick glossy paper. I think they left stuff out like that cuz 1: pepper was a more fascinating and visual album and 2: they culd make more money cuz they know the ppl that bought the pepper 50th wuld buy this white album. I mean 30$ for the 3cd is kinda steep seeing as it has the little booklet n poster only. But I got it for free so no complaints. As the white album is my least listened album its a good time to compare it with the 09 remix.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Yea I don't quite understand why they wouldn't include some type of "50th Anniversary" insert with the 2LP and 3CD sets. It certainly wouldn't have cost all that much to include a single sheet of card stock. Especially since the 2LP set I bought was nearly $50. Either way I suppose it's about the quality of the music and one insert won't really make or break my decision to buy it or not. Anyway thanks for your comment!

Actually the "Yellow Submarine" songs were the first to be remixed, on the 1999 "Yellow Submarine Songtrack" album. The other 1968 singles songs are on "Past Masters" which will probably get its own remix at some point.

@OutOnTheTiles

4 жыл бұрын

Yog-Sothoth .....correct!

I'm actually now wondering if the exclusion of Ringo also happened on the Sgt. Pepper's Anniversary box set? I haven't bought that one yet, so kinda of wondering if this is a recurring theme?

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

I just checked the Pepper book and you are correct, nothing from Ringo. I suppose he either doesn't want to participate or hasn't been asked. I personally would love to read what he has to say about both Pepper & The White Album.

@JessicasDigs

5 жыл бұрын

@@BrianBringelson Exactly! Me too!!! I mean he was one of the members of the group, it would only be right to hear his thoughts and memories during these recordings too.

@andygaines9686

5 жыл бұрын

I would assume that as the 2 Beatles and the wives of John and George had to approve all of this, that Ringo would have had the opportunity to write something but couldn't be bothered. Having been reminiscing about the Beatles for the last 40 + years he probably felt he didn't have anything new to contribute. I certainly don't feel he would have been excluded or indeed would have allowed that to happen.

It’s amazing that we are talking about the fantastic CD box set of the White Album. The vinyl seems like an afterthought. Makes me realize how much I still love CDs.

I also think the CD sounds better, which is the total opposite of Pepper. I'll have to give the record another spin

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

It's kind of amazing. The White Album CD's have so much clarity without becoming shrill or thin. All the while they retain a great low end. This morning I listened to the Pepper 50th CDs and while they do sound great, they don't have those same attributes. As of now I'll stick to the White Album 50th CDs and the Pepper 50th vinyl.

What I'm wondering...is why wouldn't they have Ringo write an intro on his thoughts?! Hmmm.....just something I thought about as I heard you read the books intro.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

SoFashionistica totally agree. In fact I had it in my notes to mention that so I’m glad you brought it up. It is weird that Ringo didn’t contribute.

@markplank6768

5 жыл бұрын

Good point!

You should get a BR player and a 5.1 speaker system to really appreciate the new mixes mate!

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Jo Nav I’ve certainly been tempted to do just that. Have you heard the 5.1 mix?

@jojonavarro5946

5 жыл бұрын

There's more revelation and clarity when you listen to them in 5.1 and it's actually a different mix. I'm not good in providing descriptions but you can read a review here: audiophilereview.com/audiophile-music/the-beatles-white-album-50th-anniversary-edition---part-one-the-blu-ray-51-surround-sound-mix.html

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

@@jojonavarro5946 Thanks!

25:10 The Sgt Pepper 2 LP version came with the insert the 4 LP version of the White album comes with one as well the single LP version of Sgt Peppers didn't come with that insert so is pretty much the same scenario

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Matipedia aw ok thanks for clearing that up. Makes sense.

@matipedia_

5 жыл бұрын

@@BrianBringelson Just realized I watched the whole video and just posted about that detail Great review! You made me wish I had the 6CD box, but my main format is vinyl so I had to go with the 4 LP set and I just can't allow myself to get both. If I ever get the chance I will get the CD set!

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

@@matipedia_ Thanks so much!

I'll probably get this just because it's Beatles history, even though I don't think a fair amount of the material has stood the test of time. I'm in the camp believing it could have been a great single album if the boys threw out a few tunes. With great Beatle songs they just never get old for me, and I can't say that about songs like "Martha My Dear", "Good Night" or "Piggies" and a few others. Maybe these remixes will help with that a bit, we'll see.

It's not that unusual they wouldn't include Hey Bulldog but it is unusual they would include Across the Universe, so I guess the only reason HB isn't there is perhaps there just aren't any decent outtakes? It would stand to reason there's only one version since they only worked on it for a day.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Stitch Grimly very good point. Although they could have included a “basic track” or “alternate mix” type of thing. Either way this white album set it fantastic.

@stitchgrimly6167

5 жыл бұрын

@xxx xxx What, the 8 track super deluxe box set?

@jeffreyroedel9804

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Bulldog outtakes are probably being saved for a deluxe Yellow Submarine re-issue, which is only half Beatles songs so it needs all the outtakes it can get. Same with Only A Northern Song, which was recorded initially during the Pepper sessions, but we didn't get any versions of it on the Pepper box set. It'll be on a future expanded Yellow Submarine.

they could have at least made the print larger in that book considering all the space on the pages what was wasted.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

To my eyes the print is just right, although any smaller and it would be tough to read.

@edstephens8955

5 жыл бұрын

@@BrianBringelson yeah I guess it's how young your eyes are lol it just looked like it could be a bit larger for the amount of space there was surrounding the text.

Bro get a Blu-Ray player and 5.1 surround system already! The surround sound mix is the whole point of this set!

@BrianBringelson

3 жыл бұрын

Ivan Übermensch I really should. So many people have told me how great it is. Surround just really isn’t my thing, but I am tempted to get my own set up. What do you have?

@lucalone

3 жыл бұрын

the blu ray audio is even slightly quieter than on the cd's dor some reasons! also the original mono mix is a perfect mastering is only on the blu ray ! saying this, I just want the blu ray to be sold seperately without the other shanigangs of this box set !

I have the 4 lp set but im leaving it minty fresh and sealed. Its lame they didnt give us in the vc a super deluxe numbered set with book ect.. but the 4 lp will have to do.

....still trying to decide, 2 years later! And it all comes down to the merit of that book - - and the countdown to a decision is 1 hr 18 mins from now! That's when a reduction deal on a new copy runs out. High pressure, never a good ambiance for purchases! but that's what happens after 2 years of procrastination. Back in the day the Beatles themselves couldn't afford this kind of money for an instrument to MAKE this music, they had to put down a deposit and pay the rest on tick. 1 hr 15 mins!!

I have been waiting for the Beatles stereo remixes for ages. And the Pepper, which was remixed a year ago, had appeared somewhat eatable. But it had encouraged Giles enormously, and he went on completely destroying the White Album. Sure the same unlucky metamorphoses are waiting for the Abbey Road and the rest of catalogue. So now I would prefer to go on with my the Beatles In Mono box set. As for stereo, do not forget that since 1999 we have got Yellow Submarine Songtrack. Nice little compilation of tastyful remixes. But stereo job of George Martin does not seem so awful. I would say now that it is just great, when we have got completely unhealthy tricks of Giles. Is Giles professional? Is Giles healthy man at all? Not sure. For me, the White Album turned out to be the end of career of Giles. Paint a mustache on the Mona Lisa and turn that frown upside down.

@bombardier2011

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael H. The monophonic catalog is the only original source of music that you are trying to discuss here. This catalog sounds great even now, because it was created by the band members themselves along with the great George Martin. Therefore, a monophonic catalog is not only my small world. Starting from the 60s, it was the mono catalog that conquered the whole big world. Everything else, including Giles remixes and other remixes, past and future, is nothing more than fantasies that become obsolete as new technical discoveries appear. I bet you never listened to mono carefully.

Is there a tap running? It's a massive distraction as you speak!

@BrianBringelson

4 жыл бұрын

haha it's my cat's drinking fountain. now that i've moved to a new place the fountain is in another room. hope it made you thirsty!

This 50th anniversary release is great in many ways. Unfortunately, the one way it is not great is in the sound quality. Like getting a 50th anniversary movie, and you love the packaging and stories, etc, but the video is bad quality. Anyone interested in obtaining great sound quality should steer clear of this release. I was hoping so much to be treated to a great listening session. Such a shame for such a great double album. I am sticking with my previous purchase, which is night-and-day better. Not because I am used to it. But because it is.

The Beatles (Triple Album) Side 1 Revolution (single version) Dear Prudence Glass Onion Cry Baby Cry Bungalow Bill Hey Bulldog Side 2 Yer Blues I'm So Tired Sexy Sadie Happiness is a Warm Gun Across the Universe Julia Side 3 Back in the USSR Ob La Di On La Da I Will Mother Nature's Son Rocky Raccoon Wild Honey Pie Blackbird Side 4 Honey Pie Martha My Dear Why Don't We Do It In The Road Lady Madonna Hey Jude Side 5 The Inner Light Not Guilty Piggies Savoy Truffle While My Guitar Gently Weeps Long Long Long Side 6 Birthday Everybody's Got Something To Hide Helter Skelter Revolution #9 Good Night

*The Beatles split due to Linda Eastman*

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

not sure i agree with that, but I respect your opinion. from what I've read it seemed like Linda pretty much stayed in the background taking the occasional photo.

Meh ..stick with your Grrman WA ... way better

Poor George Martin! 2018 White Album remix done by his son Giles is sooooooooo crap. Take the tapes away from Giles. This is not his cup of tea.

@BrianBringelson

5 жыл бұрын

Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion but I am curious as to what exactly you don't like about the new mix.

@bombardier2011

5 жыл бұрын

@@BrianBringelson It's easier to say what I liked in the new mix. Only two songs (Julia and Glass Onion), but the orchestral ending in Glass Onion is muted and this is nonsense. And the whole work is an unprecedented failure.

@bombardier2011

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael H. If I do not like something, I may not buy something. But who said I can’t discuss something? You? You are wrong. Returning to the topic. The problem is not that someone remade something. The problem is that it was the only chance for many years to get something. And it was not used as it should. The remix is made unprofessionally in many ways, and this is obvious.

The new remix of the original album benefits the album ??? You've got to be kidding. The new remixes are atrocious. Giles Martin has ruined a masterpiece. It's like painting sunglasses on the Mona Lisa. You don't screw with something that was perfect in the first place. The esher demos and the studio sessions are a great treat, but as for the new remix you can forget it !!!