According to the movie, wasn't he 11 before the enchantress came? I know that they have gone back and tried to change what was said, alter what was meant, and give other authors the 'right' to decide what 'really' happened, but the prologue said the rose would bloom till he turns 21 and Lumiere says they were enchanted 10 years. Simply presuming he could not age unless the chairs... did as well redefines what are the rules of that particular fairy tale world simply to add to how much sin they can add to the backstory, which helps nothing.

@blackivy8200

Жыл бұрын

Thank you cause I'm sorry these books are good but if disney isn't saying it its not cannon like the live action one I can see as like a different time line like they did with Cinderella 3 but still I cant see it

@smiller2044

Жыл бұрын

Good point @cynd winzeler

@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473

Жыл бұрын

You are so right!

@bittersprout3694

Жыл бұрын

If this is the middle ages, the standards of _age of maturity_ at the time was very low

@cyndwinzeler3417

Жыл бұрын

@@bittersprout3694 agree, but kinda doubt an 11 year old had quite the desire to just grab women like this is trying to add. I have no question an 11 year old can be horrible and greedy, though

He was an entitled 11 year old boy born into royalty. So.. like.. of course love wasn't a concept a child understood.

Okay, and another thing. The enchantress was cursing a literal child. At least in the remake the Beast was already an adult, so I see why she would have cursed that version of him. But the animated one always gave me a icky feeling. You're cursing a hormonal teenager for not taking a flower from you? Really??

@hannahhester8376

Жыл бұрын

@jf k Doesn't change the fact that she did that to a kid

@lexyruse603

Жыл бұрын

@jf k Even then.... He's still a kid. And I'm sorry in other disney movies when a creepy women gives you something it's usually poisoned. Look at what happened to snow white. In the original story I do believe he was older so that's more understandable and in the live action he was older but I can't get behind her cursing an 11 year old boy for him not letting her into the castle.

@lexyruse603

Жыл бұрын

@jf k True but just because there's a good result from doing something bad doesn't make it right. If you get abused as a child and in turn that makes you want to be different from your parents and be a loving person does that mean the abuse was ok? Plus this technically teaches kids to trust strangers. I lobe Beauty and the Beast but honestly his punishment was way overboard.

@inky-rose6460

Жыл бұрын

​​@jf k I don't really agree with the statement that he changed him for the better. It's unlikely. He would've grown to be super selfish. I don't know you can't really expect a 11 year old to let you into his house if your disguised as a creepy old lady. That's like the first rule of anything. And if we're going off of all time being halted then that still doesn't seem fair. 21 is when a person has just finished their brain's full development, 21 is still pretty young though. You can't curse someone just because he didn't let you into his house, no matter what age it's still a bit creepy to show up as an old lady to a very young man's castle

@daniellevinson6975

Жыл бұрын

The idea of Adam being 11 at the time of the curse comes solely from the rectonning of The Enchanted Christmas.

The beast is an underrated Disney prince

Honestly, I can believe a lot of what happened in the book. However, if any of it were to be adapted into the film's canon, the curse being drawn out and Beast almost being engaged a second time would need to be written out. Also, in the 2017 movie, it was shown the Prince's mother died when he was young, so his father raised him to be as selfish as he was. My guess is that this was exasperated further when his father died, and when Gaston entered his life. According to The Enchanted Christmas, it looks as if the Prince was cursed when he was 16, and the enchanted rose probably made his and his servants' lives slow down 50%. Also, spending 10 years as a Beast had to have been physically painful for the Prince, probably to the point of insanity.

So when the beast was fighting Gaston he wasn't just fighting him he was also fighting himself because Gaston is what the beast used to be

@jorgebersabe293

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. And that's why he spares Gaston at the end. Gaston is the monster the Beast would have become if the Enchantress didn't interfere that night.

I was about to say Circe, in Greek mythology, was a sorceress. She, ironically, turned men into pigs after bewitching or seducing them with her beauty.

@jasminkrieger8228

Жыл бұрын

Well circe looks diffrent shes in the Hercules series this enchantress who cursed the beast prince Adam looked like from Macbeth they vcould curse you too

@humblethriftcrafter9870

Жыл бұрын

@@jasminkrieger8228 Right! I think they def took inspiration from the Greek mythology for this retelling which is really cool.

@jasminkrieger8228

Жыл бұрын

@@humblethriftcrafter9870 well yeah

I think Beastly: The Tale Of Beauty's Prince should be a movie series too it is very entertaining and to know more backstory on his parents and how his life turned out? How did he met Gaston? Adam and Gaston was friends wow wow mind-blowing news to know

The rose was enchanted and nobody aged a day so I tend to think time stopped for the castle and everyone outside it forgot there ever was one until Belle shows them via the mirror Yes in the song 10 years is mentioned but I see that as either a result of the rose or a reference to how long it had been since they hosted anyone from outside the castle…if Adam was that reached towards the enchantress and Christmas who would ever accept an invitation?

@UnderTheSameSun693

Жыл бұрын

I used to think that the Beast was locked in that castle for wasaaaay longer than 10 years. I don't know, 100 years? 50 years? I thought time stopped for everyone in the castle, so they didn't age. I thought that when the Beast turned back into a human, he didn't age, so that's how he looked when he was younger, and got cursed. I never would have guessed that they were still aging in that castle. It's kind of twisted and dark that they age, because there's a child in that castle that had nothing to do with the Prince's behavior, and he turned into a cup. The wiki, It says that he was 7 years old before he was cursed. So that means Chip was 17 when he got turned back into a human. Imagine living your entire life as a fragile cup? What further made me think that time stopped for them is that chip doesn't look 17(though I didn't know his age at the time), he looks to be around 10 years old. I thought for myself that the boy has to be 10 or something, because how cruel would it have been to turn an infant or toddler into a tea cup, for the actions of the Prince?

Yeah, I don't buy this at all. He was literally a kid when he was cursed. Don't exactly know how old he actually was when cursed, in the second BATB film the Christmas one, he looks around 15 when the enchantress comes, the 10 years Lumiere mentions might have just been more like it's felt like ten years. I doubt a 15 year old is going around sleeping with people, Prince or not.

Thank you I'm a huge Beauty and the Beast fan. Loving these videos. 🥀

The first movie tells that when the beast turns 21-year-old, 10 years have passed since the curse was cast. And the Christmas sequel confirmed that the prince was only an 11-year-old child when the enchantress brought a rose and turned the spoiled prince into a monster.

@daniellevinson6975

Жыл бұрын

The prologue said 21st YEAR, not birthday.

@danielmalinen6337

Жыл бұрын

@@daniellevinson6975 I was talking about the flashback in the flashback of the sequel movie, The Enchanted Christmas. This flashback in the flashback tells about how the prince celebrated his 11th birthday when the enchantress knocked on the door and interrupted the celebration.

@daniellevinson6975

Жыл бұрын

@@danielmalinen6337 I know, but that scene conspicuously retcons the 1991 feature film.

@danielmalinen6337

Жыл бұрын

@@daniellevinson6975 In a way, yes and no, because the Be Our Quest song originally mentioned that the curse has lasted for ten years and before this it has been established that the curse becomes permanent when the prince turns 21. With mathematics, they have been able to calculate from this the 11th birthday.

There's a butterfly in us all just waiting to spread its wings and fly. The Beast may have had his Butterfly locked away inside him for a very long time, but Belle helped him find the key.

Sorry but I don't adhere to anything Serena valentino has written. She tries to rewrite the story including the endings (i.e. the movies we know). That is simply not what I expect from a back story. Especially since the odd sisters seem to be of a similar nature to the three fates from Grecian mythology. Even if you do run with her narrative then Adam would never have befriended Gaston he was too far beneath him being the son of a tavern keeper as he was. Before you ask his trophies wouldn't have been displayed at the tavern if it were not his home thus making him a tavern keeper or at least the child of one.

@toastedbabybuns1000

Жыл бұрын

It's why I can't stand these videos. Serena Valentino's stories are essentially fanfiction that the video's authors are putting forward as fact about a characters backstory. It's cringe.

GREAT VIDEO

I think the 10 years was since his parents died. So at 11 he became an orphan but was rich so his servants took care of him but he had no idea how to host a ball so they never got a chance to use their skills for anyone but him. The curse appears to be no more than 5 years old, maybe less because he looks about 16-18 years old when he is cursed.

Deluxe: The prince would use his good looks to get a kiss from beautiful women. Me: Just a kiss?😏

@Annahg78

Жыл бұрын

😂

The original books have a fairy that becomes sexually attracted to the child she helped raised and then cursed him for turning her down. Let’s remember this is technically a stolen story

Please Make Videos Ursula Based On The Book Poor Unfortunate Souls And A Few Video Going In Depth About The Odd Sisters

I think I need to check out these books myself. As for Weather the beast deserves Belle, I’d say it brings up an old philosophy I’ve heard. Basically they say that when it comes to forgiveness nobody who needs it ever deserves it but it is everyone’s right to give it. So it’s up to Belle herself.

man, they just love taking classic characters, and retconning the good characters to make them bad, and make the evil characters sympathetic

Now I'm excited about "cold hearted" "the odd sisters" truly invested to this

@oceanberserker

Жыл бұрын

He means the Weird/Wryd Sisters from 'Gargoyles.' Somebody obviously doesn't want Uncle Walt to come down on his head.

the fact that puzzles me the Prince should have already been betrothed his marriage should have been arranged to a another Royal before he was born or sometime after as it was incredibly common .

The Odds Sisters did make an appearance, but not in the main storyline. Yet rather in a series also by Disney called "Gargoyles". (I think Beast deserved Belle.) If the fanfiction styled book of the Disney characters is some kind of fact... and if Gaston was once a upon a time the Beast's bestie I think Gaston was the one who rubbed off his personality on to Beast... That is if the story be a fact of truth and can be taken seriously.

If he really hated women below his status, I think it’s actually hilarious that he fell head over heals in love with Belle - a beautiful country girl -

in the Broadway Chuck Wagner played as the Beast and do it same way and little bit different then a movie and before he met Belle in the Broadway too

Disney has entered the multiverse.

I get the prince was being spoiled and all that but let's be honest with ourselves if we're like 10 years old and some old lady knocks on your door trying to ask for a place to say you'll probably slam the door in their face too stranger danger player stranger danger😂

based on the true story of Petrus Gonsalvus a courtier in france, where the man had Hypertrichosis. the queen made him marry the most beautifull maid at court fortuanatly it was a love match. history paints him as a good honerable man

I used to think that the Beast was locked in that castle for wasaaaay longer than 10 years. I don't know, 100 years? 50 years? I thought time stopped for everyone in the castle, so they didn't age. I thought that when the Beast turned back into a human, he didn't age, so that's how he looked when he was younger, and got cursed. I never would have guessed that they were still aging in that castle. It's kind of twisted and dark that they age, because there's a child in that castle that had nothing to do with the Prince's behavior, and he turned into a cup. The wiki, It says that he was 7 years old before he was cursed. So that means Chip was 17 when he got turned back into a human. Imagine living your entire life as a fragile cup? What further made me think that time stopped for them is that chip doesn't look 17(though I didn't know his age at the time), he looks to be around 10 years old. I thought for myself that the boy has to be 10 or something, because how cruel would it have been to turn an infant or toddler into a tea cup, for the actions of the Prince?

@user-ky4vi1fp5i

11 ай бұрын

The beast was the only one who did age since was still flesh and blood his servants didn't they were objects keeping them from aging

So was Gaston babysitting him because the prince was only 11 when he got changed into the Beast.🤨

.... You know, so long as the rose wasn't messed with, ....technically, ...it'd be a LONG time before ANY of the petals fell off.

@LadyLeomon

Жыл бұрын

As far as the original Disney version it concerned the rose had already started losing its petals by the time Belle came alone, and the intro voiceover stated it “would bloom until his 21st birthday”, so Disney Beast was on a timer from the beginning 😓😓😓

Woe wow

when will we see the odd sister in tv and film??

I feel l8ke "kiss" is being used very lightly.

He missed treated belle at first after he saved her from the wolves she knows there is good in him and got better over time and show him what true love is and become a better person gaston was real beast for how he treats people badly and do anything to make belle as his trophy wife meeting the beast saved her from his abusive cruelty

So He Was Was Basically Worse Than Gaston? Shocking 🤯

Interesting....

no

TEAM GASTON HERE!

My question is: why do we add Serine's Valentina's written story, that's printed out as a book. to the original Disney story, if S. V. is just another fan of W. Disney's fairytales? Why do we take a FAN made, point of view for the story, so seriously? For one, that's a completely different world, different dimension & two - anyone could write a book and fan-franchise of Disney's fairytales :/

These books try to subvert the original stories while the writer ignores details. These are nothing more then fangirl trash

Remember the original stories comes from the Grim brothers meaning the stories were 🕶️😊

So someone wrote a fanfic back story about a fictional character that acts like it's true? Wow. That's a shocker.

The beast's mother passing away also fueled his character.

He was 11 when enchantress changed him this not right

according to the movie, he was 11 (but that could have been an error)

The e in Circe is silent

I'm confused.. I thought everyone was frozen in time.. So, did the prince start as a beast cub?? Also, was Mrs. Potts pregnant with chip when they were enchanted? How is chip still, which appears to be under 10 yrs old?? I blame it on fairytale world time frames, and aging rules do not apply here...lol

Everyone commenting about he was a child at 11. Guys way back then the age of 11 was basically the start of adulthood. Not many people survived past their 30s so they had to marry and have kids a lot younger than today's modern world. It's disgusting but that's how it was back then.

@BozeDoesGodsWork

Жыл бұрын

Depending on the time period it would have been 16. Isn’t beauty in the beast set in the 1600-1700? It looks like a Marie Antoinette timeline to me. So 16 would have been adult back then for higher class people that is.

@tailsprowerfan2729

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the fact that being 30 meant you were basically a eilder

@HanaDubs

Жыл бұрын

That was sorta a myth, 16 or so was actually deemed adulthood. Even then, his social status would make him live much longer. Most people even then could still live till at least 40 there so you could still wait till they're an adult or 20 before they are obligated to be married and have kids.

Now this is worng according to the original book the Prince was groomed and he was just a kid

What if the three blonde girls are the witches?

I think The Beast Deserves Bell everyone Deserves a Second Chance and what his serpents from Lumier and Cogsworth and his mother Miss Potts.

I Sometimes Wondered If The Prince Ever Had A Name Before He Became The Beast? Because It Just Can't Be The Prince.

@elcucy

Жыл бұрын

Adam

@josephtanner4594

Жыл бұрын

It's Prince Adam@@elcucy How Come It It Was Never Mention In Walt Disney Studio Pictures - Beauty and the Beast?

Who wrote the books? It just feels like everyone written something about Adam and Belle over and over. Yet the movie says he was 11. It’s just so confusing y’all. They are all different types of canon???

adam should have realized there was more to women than their beauty because he was selfish and self absorbed only caring about one quality of a woman if i was in the movie i would be with belle instead of him because unlike him i love everything about a girl not just her beauty

He was like 21?

According to an amazing beauty and the beast book I have the beast is 11 years old and his parents were ruthless rulers killing off magical beings left and right. Pure genocide! Belle’s mother who was the enchantress gave a final warning to his parents but they wouldn’t listen and so she cursed the entire kingdom and cursed the innocent little prince along the way. Sad. 😞

1. While I enjoy Serena Valentino's stories they are not cannon to any of the Disney fairy tales 2. Let's use Adam's name considering he is only prince who was named in the 90s after its release. 3. Adam was cursed when he was 13. 4. A part of the curse is that country he ruled over lost all memory of him after the curse was placed. 4. It's mentioned in the movie the grim fairy tale vers., the enchanted Christmas and TV series that even though the curse was until 21 bday. He aged slower and spent the span of almost 20 to 30 years cursed.

None of this is canon. End of story

Wasn’t he 11? So of course he wouldnt let a random women in the middle of the night he was a child 😂😂😂

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Really ? 🙄

Serena Valentino is out to make all Disney villains into heros and heros into villains, if you dig into beauty and the beasts origin stories and past recounts by all the classical story tellers, the beast was a prince with whom the fairy was bewitched (even in one story she was his care taker, like an aunt who was hundreds of years old, who got infatuated with him when he reached puberty) and because he kept denying her (even Disney eludes to this story when the old haggardly woman tries to give the prince a red rose and he refuses it) got angry and cursed him as if to say yeah if I can't have you no one can. The beauty however never saw the goodness of beast but was only repulsed by his exterior until the final day came and he began to die, that's when she realized she loved him and the curse was broken. Serena Valentino is not very good at her job, she gives non sense backstories to fairytale characters which do not suit them one bit, and Disney of course always makes fairies as the heroes hence they blame the prince for being rude, like even if he was rude who gave the fairy the authority to punish him, who was she his mother? The scorned lover story of the classical story always made more sense, I always felt Disney version was very off since the story was not adding up, that was before the much worse version of Serena Valentino came out.

@angeldaly8181

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you but please remember that Disney did agree for those books to be pulished so you can say serena is bad at her job she's just doing as she's told

@tooba1049

Жыл бұрын

@@angeldaly8181 well she may have been told what to do in the sense to give villains a back story, make the psychopaths seem human and sympathetic characters while heroes as not as good as they appear to be, the horrible story writing was all her doing no doubt. There is a million ways to make a hero seem bad and villain sympathetic, she just did a bad job. Absolutely zero research into the background of the story.

Bad convoluted fanfiction

@samijay8415

Жыл бұрын

Yeah i am not a fan either.

Who Knows What To Think About The Beast's Extremely SInful Life Before He Met Belle!!!!!!!!

The book aka a sjw fan fiction. So not canon.

Disney ruins EVERYTHING