Baker Mayfield becoming a sympathetic figure is something I never expected to happen. I firmly hope that he can revive his career in Carolina and make the Browns pay for how they treated him.

@Charles_Groebs

2 жыл бұрын

I think the only way he starts is if Sam Darnold is injured or Baker beats him out for the starting job. Carolina owes Darnold 19 million to where Baker is just short of 5 million, plus remember they gave a 6th, 2nd, and 4th to get Darnold where Baker only costed a 5th (which becomes a 4th based off playing time). Edit: Also forgot they have XFL Legend PJ Walker and Matt Corral, so who really knows at this point.

@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza

2 жыл бұрын

We also didn't expect Deshaun's over 20 cases, but here we are

@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza

2 жыл бұрын

@@Charles_Groebs not exactly hard to see, but Remember that both were top picks IN THE SAME DRAFT, what a collapse

@godfather95mbs33

2 жыл бұрын

browns didnt treat him bad. browns just tried to get another QB. nfl is a business. the browns made a business decision where they supposed to stick with baker just for old times sake?

@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza

2 жыл бұрын

@@godfather95mbs33 yeah, letting him play without an arm was also a business decision, which says a lot

Who’s here after he led the Buccaneers to the divisional round of the playoffs after beating the defending NFC Champion Eagles?

@thedude3065

6 ай бұрын

Since the trade playoff wins Browns: 0 Baker: 1

@davidvelazquez9473

Ай бұрын

@@thedude3065Indeed, the recent Bucs season was Baker's redemption arc.

I think many people have forgotten that Baker, despite his 2021 struggles, is a legitimate quarterback. The man can play when he's not trotting out with a horrific injury. I really think the Panthers made a great move and the Browns continue to be a miserable pit of sorrow for this (and the Deshaun) move.

@shanekeenaNYC

2 жыл бұрын

Baker Mayfield is that one player who will expose you for what you are in a vacuum. He is the Bottle Episode QB.

@philly_sports1558

2 жыл бұрын

Baker definitely got screwed. He gave everything to the Browns organization and they threw him in the trash and replaced him with Big Ben 2.0.

@JV-pu7yb

2 жыл бұрын

I really think recency bias is in full swing when it comes to him. A lot of my league mates in fantasy and other places say he’s always been like that and he’s never been good. Hoping he puts together something close to or better than that 2020 season.

@therealjaystone2344

2 жыл бұрын

He is Goff’s level

@JV-pu7yb

2 жыл бұрын

R H i mean sure i guess i will. Just my observation on a dude who actually had a pretty decent year in 2020 and his rookie year. Doesn’t have any bearing on my team so i doesn’t really bother me if it goes either way. Just want to root for the dude.

What a rollercoaster, honestly. A couple years back we we were all happy to see that a bad franchise finally started winning, even winning a playoff game. Then they brought in a QB to replace Baker with numerous legal issues and cast him aside. They went full heel in a heartbeat

@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza

2 жыл бұрын

They also sent a lot of picks to the Texans and it was still undersold as well because everything involved is a shitwreck

@jessicastout9764

2 жыл бұрын

The Browns didn't screw Baker. Baker screwed Baker. - Cleveland Owner

@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessicastout9764 poor Bret Hart

@malekiththeeternityking5433

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessicastout9764 The man who gave a serial rapist a job. Yeah wouldn't care what his opinion is

@axle1717

2 жыл бұрын

The football gods will smite them

What ticks me off most as a Browns fan is how unfair Baker's situation really was to fans. "Fans" now say that Baker was selfish, only playing through injury for his own good. But we ALL know darn well that if Baker had chosen to sit, these SAME fans would call Baker a quitter for not wanting to play. *It's a very annoying lose-lose situation for Baker.*

@bdawg4231

2 жыл бұрын

That is literally bull shit. THE DUDES SHOULDER WAS FALLING OFF - NOT a single Browns fan would of said that crap.

@blackbart2014

2 жыл бұрын

@@bdawg4231 you’d be surprised smh you’d be surprised 😕

@lucaswickiser6874

2 жыл бұрын

@@bdawg4231 bullshit they wouldn’t have. They’ve been ripping him for how bad he “sucked.” If he had sat like he should have, they absolutely would’ve ripped him for “quitting.” You and I both know it. That’s how many Browns “fans” are unfortunately. These are the same people who cheered when Tim Couch got hurt back in the day. They’re awful people. I’ve been a Browns fan for 15 years. They always act like that. And I’m just gonna say it: Not all fans are like these people. But the Browns fans who are? They deserve a garbage football team for decades to come. They aren’t fans. They’re thugs and bullies. They’re real pieces of work.

@davew4939

2 жыл бұрын

@@bdawg4231 There are people saying *now* that Baker wasn’t really injured and that his health had nothing to do with his play last year.

@bk7064

2 жыл бұрын

@@davew4939 Yup, Quincy carrier (a popular Browns channel) is also saying that. How people can't see that Baker was limited is sad.

I honestly hope for Baker to shine in Carolina. He didn't deserve to get shafted like he did

@UHOH_415

2 жыл бұрын

Like Tree said at the end, Baker shredding Cleveland in week 1 would be funny to see.

@waffled1090

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. As a Browns fan, god fucking damn it. Of all people we had to sign it was Deshaun the sexual assault monster, and we simultaneously screwed Baker. All I can say is that we better win and I wish Baker the best of luck.

@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza

2 жыл бұрын

We said the same thing about Darnold (WHO IS FROM THE SAME FUCKING CLASS), the next move will be Cam retiring and being replaced by... Josh Rosen

@pebble312

2 жыл бұрын

@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza yeah but Darnold was never good, Mayfield has proven himself to be competent at many points

@kurtpunchesthings2411

2 жыл бұрын

@@UHOH_415 yea that would be good you love to see it player gets fucked over by a team goes elsewhere ends up shitting all over old team in a game

I think Browns fans will forever have a place in their hearts for Baker Mayfield. Even if it was a low bar to clear, he was the best QB they've had since their return in 1999.

@Pieforpupper

2 жыл бұрын

Im a browns fan, and they absolutely fucked baker over and I'm upset.

@MNSportsJunkie101

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pieforpupper I really wanted him to do well there, but Cleveland got greedy and sold their souls to the devil after mishandling his shoulder injury.

@JamesTobiasStewart

2 жыл бұрын

@@MNSportsJunkie101 Oh absolutely, as Tree said, Baker should have been made to go on Injured, instead they let him keep going out there when it was obvious his injury was impairing his abilities and then complained that he didn't play like he did when he was healthy.

@Pieforpupper

2 жыл бұрын

@@MNSportsJunkie101 And we will regret it I'm sure.

@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza

2 жыл бұрын

@@MNSportsJunkie101 who cares, Haslam will fuck up this team while he's still the owner

I'm with UT on this one. Not a fan of Baker, but after watching the Cleveland Clowns botch his handling, I'm rooting for him to rebound.

@johnpatricklim4509

2 жыл бұрын

Love the new name....cleaveland clowns....hehehehe

@IwhowasdatXD960

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnpatricklim4509 Im definitely calling them that this year

@DelGTAGrndrs

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnpatricklim4509 that’s old an unoriginal

@DelGTAGrndrs

2 жыл бұрын

@@IwhowasdatXD960 you and all the other smoothbrained kids. Got it

@legocat0306

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnpatricklim4509 Old ass name plus you spelled CLEVELAND wrong.

"I thought the stadium was your HOME, Baker!" "What did I do to f***ing deserve this?" That scene from Gridiron Heights still gets me every time...

@artfire28

2 жыл бұрын

BR should have off-season eps of GH. If we don't get something like Hardwood Hills or Diamond Heights, they should focus on this.

@RRRandomRecordings

2 жыл бұрын

@@artfire28 Don't forget aboot Zamboni Bluffs, eh? I'd love some hockey content from BR!

@darealconman

2 жыл бұрын

@@artfire28 BR does have offseason episodes of Gridiron Heights at times, one of those episodes just happened to air back in March

@johnbox271

2 жыл бұрын

You anger the football Gods by taking the Browns to the playoffs and winning a game. That can not be ignored, their punishment was inevitable.

@artfire28

2 жыл бұрын

@@darealconman its the GH Draft Day edition but not enough

Poor Baker Mayfield. He gave it his all to the Browns, and they treat him like crap. I'm hoping the best for him.

@ct-rollins4685

2 жыл бұрын

Same, city turned their backs on him only a season after finally making it to the postseason

@philly_sports1558

2 жыл бұрын

I hope Watson eventually gets suspended. He makes Big Ben look like a lovable guy by comparison.

@fromthehaven94

2 жыл бұрын

I will not miss the 5-1 record he had against the Bengals, including the last three starts vs Joe Burrow.

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

@@ct-rollins4685 The worst part is when people blame him for playing injured, instead of the organization…at any point the Browns should have said “We love the dedication Baker, but it’s better if we put you on the IR and let you heal” Instead, they did nothing but actively sabotage not only his year but that of the entire team’s

@Zelinkokitsune

2 жыл бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia Usually people go seeing someone playing hurt as having "Heart" and "Passion" but for Baker it was him being "Selfish" just because of where he was in his contract. Which is bullshit. He goes under the knife because of the injury and he's "Soft" and "Doesn't care about winning" The guy got fucked and the Browns wanted their shiny new toy.

Imagine if Mayfield wins a ring in Carolina and Watson never lives up to his contract...I can't even imagine how furious the city of Cleveland would be.

@RogueBlackOp

2 жыл бұрын

I’m seriously hoping I get to come back to this when it happens.

@animal1439

2 жыл бұрын

As a Bengals fan, I wish all the love and success for Baker in Carolina, I'll definitely be keeping a close eye on the Panthers this year as a secondary team to cheer for

@kja6336

2 жыл бұрын

@@animal1439 facts im a partial carolina fan now

@JStryker7

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if Watson never plays

@SHITSWEEEK

2 жыл бұрын

delusions like this keep me coming back to comment sections. i cant wait until people see how baker is gonna do. he might be alright, but theyre not winning anything. the league has figured baker out and unless he somehow gets a roster around him thats even better than the one he had the last 4 years, i doubt he ever makes the playoffs with corlina anytime soon

The factory of sadness is back in full swing. You love to see it.

@PittsburghSonido

2 жыл бұрын

Baker > every other NFL qb

@zetastreaker47

2 жыл бұрын

Especially when they caused it themselves.

@MazeDaGr8

2 жыл бұрын

It never shut down, the lights were just off for a season

@UHOH_415

2 жыл бұрын

There will NOT be a Happy Ending.

@bw-leftturnracing7779

2 жыл бұрын

@@MazeDaGr8 Just like a lot of other businesses in 2020.

I thought Baker was going to be Johnny Manziel 2.0, but he honestly developed into a decent QB. It sucks that he got ran out of town after playing hurt most of last season.

@nautgamingnautgaming9949

2 жыл бұрын

Mike I think your first thought stands with him being Johnny 2.0 I am glad he did get a second chance and really hope he doesn't waste it

@legocat0306

2 жыл бұрын

Both the Browns managers and Bakers fault. Baker wanted to play and the coaching staff didn’t stop him. Dude kept getting tossed around and hurt. Shouldn’t have gotten shafted and he should have been told the truth, but alas he got traded and we all have to move on.

@CollinMann04

2 жыл бұрын

@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 no chance in hell Johnny football is even half of what baker is right now. stop it

At least Cleveland will always have that year the Cavs won the NBA championship, The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and The Drew Carey Show. We can never take that away from them.

I agree with you 155%... I am not a big Mayfield fan, but what the Browns did... they did it to themselves. It's your JOB, as a head coach, to SIT a player who cannot play due to injury..... And Baker, quite honestly, should have sat.

@MoLiEG89

2 жыл бұрын

If Baker didn't want to, the coaches should have made that call. But Stefanski has no balls. And the whole Browns organization has no brain.

@warlordofbritannia

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly-the job of the coach is to put the best players on the field at all times, yet the entire Browns organization kept running Baker out there to both the detriment of his season and the entire team’s They failed to make that decision, either through lack of moral courage or basic competency, and then they had the audacity to blame him for their mistakes

@cuhgaming4943

2 жыл бұрын

@@warlordofbritannia Yep. Take Saban in the Georgia vs Bama game in the NC. Jameson Williams, their star WR and a 1st round draft pick lock, suffered a horrific injury on his leg around the ACL area. In the 2nd Quarter, you could see Jamo walking on the field, and wanted to play. Saban wouldn't let him, he chose Jameson's career over 30 minutes left in a NC. Ik College and the NFL are different but that really stood out to me and should be the standard for handling injured players.

@bdawg4231

2 жыл бұрын

He literally refused to sit.. WHY IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND LOL

@blank964

2 жыл бұрын

@@bdawg4231 He literally got up in a press conference and said it was his decision whether he played or not before the Browns benched him prior to the Broncos game. Maybe he needs better people in his camp to tell him to put himself first and teams don't care about if you play hurt.

Imagine if the Baker now has a career similar to Brees in New Orleans while Watson gets suspended indefinitely. That would legit be the most Browns outcome ever.

Even now, I don't understand how Cleveland allowed it to be Mayfield's choice to play. We fans talk about him foolishly trying to gut it out, but the reality is that it was completely up to the coaching staff to bench him and the front office to put him on IR. The only reason to proceed as they did is nonsensical: to make him look bad. Any other competent team would've looked at this situation and said, we've got too much invested in this player to risk any further damage, either physical or to his confidence, so shut him down and try again next year. But not the Browns. So it begs the question: why?

Honestly this going sound weird but I hope baker can lead whatever team a super bowl win

@FleettLTD.

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason I’m watching Panthers games that’s for sure

@angryfoxgaming6276

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly same, or Watson to prison

@mbdg6810

2 жыл бұрын

@@angryfoxgaming6276 the guy not convicted of a crime with all his allegations to prison… think about what you’re saying. It’s corrupt.

@OpeoAslam

2 жыл бұрын

As long as he beats the Browns

@angryfoxgaming6276

2 жыл бұрын

@@mbdg6810 oh yeah it's so corrupt all 26 women are lying. Dude I'll even grant you the possibility that 10 are lying but can you honestly say with a straight face all of them are lying?? Even with what his lawyer said about happy endings not being illegal?

As a broken hearted Browns fan all I can say is this. All of this. Oh wait, I guess I can also say that I hope Baker beats the living shit out of us week one, and that DeShaun Watson never plays a down and that Haslam soaks himself in his own leaded gas and sets himself alight. I guess I did have more to say.

@waterlover7590

2 жыл бұрын

Your not a browns fan bro

@brycewilson2065

2 жыл бұрын

@@waterlover7590 "You're" a rapist fan, bro.

@SHITSWEEEK

2 жыл бұрын

man youre gonna be really upset when clowney and myles combine for 6 sacks and the browns blowout baker and the panthers. and be double mad when watson comes back week 8-10 and leads us to a deep playoff run

@brycewilson2065

2 жыл бұрын

@@SHITSWEEEK Not as upset as I was when The Browns traded their future to recruit someone worse then Ben and Ray Lewis combined. Because again, I don't root for rapists. Sorry you do.

@tieoneon1614

2 жыл бұрын

Good man, Bryce. You are not a fan if u think a team can waste away their future with ridiculous and low life decisions. I was only a fan of them when they acquired Baker and loved watching them build up. Baker plays best with a chip like when he was a walk on freshman. Watson wont play this year, probably next either. The Browns will have to waste another first round pic on a QB and wreck that one too. Im just glad Baker got out.

I’ve always thought Baker’s career has played out very similar to Drew Brees’ career. Both had a similar draft profile when they were in college, both were let go by their team due to an injury, and Drew Brees took a historically poverty franchise to a Super Bowl win. I wonder if Baker Mayfield will do the same…

@coreylineberry8557

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Even to the point both were traded to an NFC South team.

@crupeoplemusic

2 жыл бұрын

i wouldn't say the panthers are a historically poverty franchise, they made it to 2 super bowls in the past whereas the saints before brees didn't

@MrGNugget

2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert: He won’t.

@123chargeit

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreylineberry8557 Drew Brees was a free agent not a trade but he was not resigned due to injury. I remember that year it was between the Saints and Dolphins for Brees. He actually wanted to go to the phins but they were worried about the shoulder. They ended up signing Dante Culpepper which was the other big QB that year on the market. Bet they regret that decision something fierce.

@fredbologn2344

2 жыл бұрын

Is this satire?

Browns fan here. I will miss baker. We will always have that playoff win. I hope he goes and has a hall of fame career. So long partner

@KT-cz7rm

2 жыл бұрын

What do think of Watson? I think it's creepy but some people are treating him like a murderer. He didn't force himself on anyone. Idk how I'd feel if he was on my team.

Prett admirable he played through a torn labia

And now his Drew Brees arc has begun, a little later but Cleveland/Carolina’s loss is Tampa Bay’s gain

Cleveland's surprised Pikachu reaction to an injured Baker playing poorly is basically identical to the Buffalo Sabres' surprised Pikachu when Jack Eichel failed a physical due to not being allowed to get the surgery he wanted.

@justinmaybach6388

2 жыл бұрын

As a Sabres fan, I can attest that that appeared to be the reaction by the organization at the time. In March of 2021, KeyBank Center became the new Factory of Sadness in his opinion. Over a year later, I’d say it’s back to Cleveland because at least the Sabres became a fun watch and have players who are easy to support. They traded Eichel because they were skeptical about playing a guy who wanted a surgery that hadn’t been performed on an NHL player and wasn’t the best influence for the rest of the team. The Browns traded a quarterback who won big games for them for someone that shouldn’t ever play football again if he truly is a sexual predator. In this case, the Sabres are the team worthy of more respect even if the talent is lacking.

If you had led a perpetual dumpster fire to their first real success in two decades, play injured to try and help the team (even though he should've sat imo), and then that team trades heaven and earth for a guy who has significant baggage yet also gets all the money, I would feel some type of way. I hope Matt Rhule doesn't ruin Baker more because I think there's still time for him to become a top 12 QB.

@DelGTAGrndrs

2 жыл бұрын

L

@hdague1162

2 жыл бұрын

I agree somewhat, but why wasn't there this much outrage when guys like Jared Goff and Carson Wentz were traded? Arguably their accomplishments shine brighter.

@KaxMerg

2 жыл бұрын

@@hdague1162 because circumstances are different

@hdague1162

2 жыл бұрын

@@KaxMerg Yeah you're right... Baker didn't accomplish nearly as much as Goff and Wentz did. But it's weird that there still isn't the same amount of uproar.

@patrickwilkinson7351

2 жыл бұрын

@@hdague1162 To be fair, when it came to Goff, the Rams were fully in "Win Now" form, and most people thought Goff was the weakest link, so the Rams gambled on the trade for Stafford, and it paid off. As for Wentz, it's a lot trickier. He's been really inconsistent and he's had some issues with injuries. The Eagles went from wining the Super Bowl tow having two average seasons and then a dumpster fire in 2020. They probably figured a full on reset was the only way they were going to get out of it. Considering how Wentz's season with the Colts went, it might have been for the best.

I hope Baker somehow has some insane record-breaking season with the Panthers just for the memes

Going to say, Carolina fleeced Cleveland here. EDIT: Welp

As a lifelong Browns fan, i hope the rest of Baker’s career is one long revenge tour

@fromthehaven94

2 жыл бұрын

But not against the Bengals.

@davew4939

2 жыл бұрын

@@fromthehaven94 He has no need for revenge against the Bengals. He always plays his best against them, and Burrow said some really positive things about Baker during this debacle.

@fromthehaven94

2 жыл бұрын

@@davew4939 Hence my comment 🤦‍♂️

Cleveland went from the lovable losers, to the lovable winners, to the NFL's heel in the span of a couple years.

@SHITSWEEEK

2 жыл бұрын

lovable winners to most hated DOMINATORS. the tears of salty NFL fans when they realize the browns are going to destroy their favorite teams for years to come with watson is gonna be oh so yummy

@js1031

2 жыл бұрын

@@SHITSWEEEK The Browns haven't done ANYTHING yet. It's all "on paper". Save the bragging for when you can beat a true contender.

@DANNY74125

Жыл бұрын

@@SHITSWEEEK Pictured: Being fully tone deaf

@ronaldomendoza7578

Жыл бұрын

@@SHITSWEEEK They're still mid tier lil bro

@TheToad075

Жыл бұрын

@@SHITSWEEEK The only thing the Browns destroy is their credibility as a football team

The Baker Mayfield dilemma proves a problem with NFL teams and how they think, they move to fast. It doesn’t matter if you set franchise records or NFL records, if your not one of the games best all it takes is one bad game or season and everyone wants you gone. It doesn’t matter the context, Kyler Murray had a really bad game against the eventual super bowl champs and people wanted him gone, same with Tannehill.

@SomeBF

2 жыл бұрын

Fans are fickle man I can’t follow more than 1 or 2 fan accounts for my teams because people just turn on a dime with no middle ground depending on how the games going and it makes my head spin

@allthingsgaming6

2 жыл бұрын

You know how kickers get cut after one bad game? It’s starting to get to the equivalent of that with quarterbacks.

@djtrankilo231

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Tua

@goatsnguns211

2 жыл бұрын

It also varies by organization.

@fries5849

2 жыл бұрын

@@djtrankilo231 Tua has been fucked by the dolphins fan base and organization. People say he can’t throw deep, but the only reason he can’t is because his O-Line gives him no time.

The front office knew he was hurt. Why let him play? That’s the biggest thing for me. We knew the type of man and player he was. He wants to be out there, at all times. Sometimes, people need to be protected from themselves. But it does seem like the Browns were totally fine gambling with his health and career. I’m a Ravens fan so to a certain degree, I am a Browns fan. But the Browns make it so hard to pull for them. They self sabotage too much.

The video that got the ball rolling for Tree: The Browns winless season How the world always comes full circle

@Donald_the_Potholer

2 жыл бұрын

The Winless vid was actually the "revisit" on the Browns. Tree's 1st vid came in the middle of the 1-15 season in 2016.

it's funny how I was rooting for the factory of sadness to succeed at least once, then they lost that with one move

This last season is why I've had issues watching the browns and why I won't be watching any browns football this season. Not because of Baker, but because of how the browns handled this whole qb situation.

@Donald_the_Potholer

2 жыл бұрын

What got me was the pursuit itself. If we knew that it would be a Hunt situation (8 game suspension) then at least I could gauge the likely result being a Top 10 in '23 and have hope for that season. If Watson doesn't play a down, that'll be 2 _seasons_ of rust. _Maybe_ Watson's elite enough to get past that, but this is a _definitive_ "all-in" push on an underpair or a gut-shot draw. And if it fails, then it's _Haslem_ that needs to go.

Lord Tree, First of his name, Son of the Peeing Willow, I congratulate you on another great sports video covering a good topic and making an incredibly interesting video on it. May your channel one day overtake ESPN, for we all need to hear your beautifully crafted videos Or y'know good job

@Donald_the_Potholer

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps he could have tailored the ad to the topic: Lord Mayfield, Planter of Banners.

The Week 1 game of the 2022 NFL season between the Browns and the Panthers will be an interesting watch.

As a Browns fan, I really do appreciate you making this video. But right now, I'm still unbelievably ticked off. We had a guy who actually WANTED to play for Cleveland and embody the city. A guy who was only improving. A guy who was the *embodiment* of the fire fans were filled with all those year of torment, and we threw him away. There are actually Browns fans saying that Baker's injury didn't affect him (Caugh Caugh Quincy Carrier)! There is a civil war within the community right now, many being on the wrong side. I hope Baker redeems himself and teaches these other toxic Brown's fans a lesson! *We had everything we needed, and we sold our souls to a demon!* For once I'm not only ashamed of the Browns. I'm ashamed of the "fans" as well.

I don't care if baker said he would play through that injury, the browns never should've let him play this year

Born and raised in Cleveland, and been a Browns fan my whole life. I have to say, it's REALLY refreshing to finally hear someone call it like it is. Browns fucked Baker over HARD. I don't blame him one bit for feeling like he was betrayed. Plain and simple, he was. Literally a day before trading for Watson, the front office was in front of reporters saying "Baker's our quarterback." It's bullshit, and it's just further proof that this franchise is a fucking joke and will continue to be a joke as long as Haslam owns the team. At which point, it's a coin flip on whether the successor will be any better. My prediction for the season? Browns will be basically out of contention before Watson even steps on the field, and he probably won't be any good when he does. They'll put the blame on Stefanski and fire him. Then they'll hire yet another forgettable head coach, who will have a built-in excuse for sucking because once again he'll be saddled with a quarterback he didn't choose and salary cap problems due to all the ridiculous guaranteed money going to Watson. It's just another clusterfuck, and another year wasted. And the Browns deserve it. But I'm an idiot, too. Because I'll be watching every fucking snap and giving myself an aneurysm every Sunday. We're all masochists here in Cleveland. At least we had the 2016 Cavs? Shame the formerly-Indians had to go and tarnish that year by inverting the Cavs' achievement and choking a 3-1 series lead. We're not allowed to have nice things here. >_

@NoahRicks1999

2 жыл бұрын

From Warren, Ohio here. It’s just a bunch of self-inflicted wounds year in and year out. And the Browns have no one to blame but themselves.

@Zaximillian

2 жыл бұрын

Cleveland sports fans continue to have the biggest black cloud hanging over them in all of sports. That NBA championship did not banish it.

@DepravedCoTApologist

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Zaximillian If anything, it was one of those small holes that pop up in a cloud that allows sunlight to shine through

@ironpanther2420

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoahRicks1999 I live in Southington and can confirm. The second half of 2018 and 2020 are probably the best Browns football we'll see for a long time.

@NoahRicks1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@ironpanther2420 Hey, I actually used to live out in Southington and went to high school there. And I agree with your sentiment about 2018 and 2020. The Factory of Sadness is officially reopening.

Imagine the level of peaceful protests in Cleveland if Mayfield wins a Superb Owl with the Panthers.

@HypercydeWebdesign

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm sure if he won an Owl that was Superb that would be quite a "Hoot" for those in Cleveland.

@leflores91

2 жыл бұрын

@@HypercydeWebdesign 😂 Deadass was about to say the same thing.

People always wonder how Browns became a poverty franchise… n then I realize that must be cuz they haven’t been witness to literally any CLE season preBaker

It’s weird how while Cleveland has been still struggling, their younger brother in the Bengals have started to build an empire and could win a super bowl if everything goes well

@gusbussolano03

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Super Bowls last year's Super Bowl was kinda a nightmare for Browns fans.

@darealconman

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call the Bengals an empire, that title will always stay with the 2000-2019 Patriots. Also, if the Bengals won the Super Bowl last season, Browns fans would probably kill themselves, and no, that's NOT an exaggeration.

@legocat0306

2 жыл бұрын

They got lucky that’s all. One year wonder. Won’t see them in the Super Bowl for another 10 years.

@Attack_Pillow

2 жыл бұрын

@@legocat0306 Luck plays a big part in team sports.

@adamg7984

2 жыл бұрын

@@legocat0306 Lol yeah you sure know what you're talking about. It's very easy to predict 10 years of any sport, so I'm saying Houston Texans 2023 World Champs, then the Houston Rockets join the league and win and then the Steelers migrate to baseball to win a World Series. Frankly, that's no less ridiculous than what you said. The only part that might have any water holding capability is not seeing the Bengals in a Super Bowl for another 10 years and that's only because it actually is very hard to make it to the dance and is extremely unpredictable so even if the Bengals become a powerhouse for the next decade that doesn't assure them a championship. Don't speak in absolutes with sports, I can assure you that you will look like a total moron eventually.

5:07 I wouldn't call that a mark against Baker or Chad Henne, though. If you remember that game Henne stepped up in a major way when the Chiefs needed him too.

@ShudowWolf

2 жыл бұрын

also the early-game touchback (Fumbling the ball in the endzone, the rule I forget until it rears its ugly head.)

@jiffycrimso5691

2 жыл бұрын

Chad Henne is a God. Seriously the guy is clutch everytime Mahomie is out

@Donald_the_Potholer

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShudowWolf I call it Fumble 2.0 and on the 33rd anniversary of the original. On the other hand, if this was in College, this is how it could have gone: "After reviewing the play, Personal Foul, Targeting! Defense ##. That player has been disqualified. Browns ball half the distance to the goal. Automatic first down."

The ballad still goes strong XD

And now he’s a Buc, doing so well for the franchise

@fortynights1513

Ай бұрын

He’s thankful to be with Tampa from the sounds of it

Counterpoint: NOBODY can win you a ring without at least some elite pieces. Not Brady, not Rodgers, not Mahomes (the latter to be proven this year).

@DelGTAGrndrs

2 жыл бұрын

The Giants and Eli Manning

@hdague1162

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, while nobody can win you a ring without at least some, Baker needed all of them to be elite to lose in the divisional. Top 3 O-line that year. Arguably best RB room in the league, A scheme to play around his strength (Play action pass) and a pretty solid Defense. Sure his WRs weren't the best, but Joe Burrow made it to the Superbowl with a revolving door at O-line.

@Bheliar

2 жыл бұрын

@@hdague1162 You can’t just say all of that and then add a little “well I guess his WRs weren’t that good” disclaimer at the bottom lol. Who else does a quarterback primarily throw to other than his receivers? How many times a game do you think you could get away with dink and dunking screen passes before the defense adjusts and locks you down?

@hdague1162

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bheliar I was trying to at least give Baker some credit. He had two 1000 yard receivers in Landry and OBJ, a duo that many QBs would dream of having. Sure, they’re not top 3 in the league, but any good QB can get it done with them.

@MaddDogg316

2 жыл бұрын

@@DelGTAGrndrs, the giants defense held the overwhelmingly best offense of the decade to 17 points. All Eli had to do was be mediocre, which he was.

This reminds me of the RG3 injury game and how Washington allowed him to keep playing. He was never the same after that

Who's watching this as he's now playing for the LA Rams?

@TheGameCube64Guy

11 ай бұрын

And now he's on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

@ericradford2142

6 ай бұрын

@@TheGameCube64Guyand beat the NFC Champion Eagles in the wild card playoffs.

I think it's safe to say, when the Panthers face the Browns week 1, we're going to be rooting for Baker to hang 450 yds and six TDs on the Browns. Because the realization becomes that Cleveland just paid someone 671k to kick their ass which will have made it the most Brown thing of all time.

“All I have to say is their blindside tackle was Cam Irvin, a guard converted from center” 🤣🤣

-finally draft a qb in the 1st round that doesn't bust -wins you a playoff game against the Steelers no less -plays through injury for you -chase him out of town for Bill Cosby at QB who might not even play for a year CLEVELAND

@KammaQwazi

2 жыл бұрын

Browns doing the most Browns thing that ever Browned.

@Briggie

2 жыл бұрын

They were the blue blooded franchise a few decades ago. Sad what has happened to them.

I’m thankful you understand the situation and not just blindly calling him shit cause of the narrative

This was all Haslam. If its Stefanski's call hes still on Cleveland for at least the 2022 season.

ooooof. Established Titles. just oooooof.

@matthewhaywood7815

Жыл бұрын

This doesn't date at all

I'm not a Browns fan, but their actions over the past year have still pissed me off. They cannot handle players like OBJ and Baker, they released one of their best wide receivers ever in Jarvis Landry instead working out a contract extension that would keep him around, they traded THREE 1ST ROUND PICKS for a QB who may not even play a game for them this season, and now the future of their franchise is completely uncertain. I used to think the Browns were simply unlucky, that their perpetual futility was a result from terrible ownership. Now I'm starting to think otherwise. Good job Cleveland, people no longer look at you as the loveable losers.

@ironbarbz

2 жыл бұрын

Cry about it

@kaydebagwell3756

2 жыл бұрын

@@ironbarbz you’ll be crying when the browns go fucking 0-17 and the Watson bullshit blows up in your face

I love watching everyone talk about how shit baker is all season then start talking about how he’s not that bad after all this 💀

thank you, tree. baker is easily the most overhated and one of the most underrated players in the league at this point, including by a large chunk of browns fans (i swear, we have the most kneejerk fanbase in the entire league), all because of one injury-riddled season. i hated how they screwed baker over for a guy with this much alleged baggage (even if it really is merely alleged), and i hope he lands on his feet in carolina and proves the doubters wrong once more

@Lurrkiing

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm with you man, I just ended up leaving all the browns fan groups I was in. Rabid AF. If it was anyone other than Watson I wouldn't be as mad but I'm about to buy a Carolina jersey.

@philwill0123

2 жыл бұрын

You are not making 24 settlements on "merely alleged". You are making settlements on "that did happen, but don't want the public to find out other incriminating stuff I did."

@Lurrkiing

2 жыл бұрын

@@philwill0123 Thank you

Who would’ve thought that all your old videos on the Browns would become outdated (after they beat the Steelers in the playoffs), then age like fine wine again with the Baker Mayfield/new QB saga?!

Established Titles is a scam, RIP Lord Tree.

It really is a tale of what happens when an ultra confident/cocky QB ends up with a very dysfunctional franchise and asked to save them.

@isaacpeachey8609

2 жыл бұрын

At least it didn’t go down as badly as Johnny Football did

@philly_sports1558

2 жыл бұрын

He was also clearly playing hurt but no one seemed to care about that. He got dumped in the trash like that Woody Toy Story meme.

@thenvpshow7627

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaacpeachey8609 true

@thenvpshow7627

2 жыл бұрын

@@philly_sports1558 agreed 110%. This man was screwed from the day he got to Cleveland

@nautgamingnautgaming9949

2 жыл бұрын

@@philly_sports1558 his arrogance cockiness and lack of work ethic kinda soured the mood so much nobody cared when he got hurt He does get A SECOND CHANCE to correct these errors

Wow, this still has the established titles ad on it. Well I guess you can't catch them all.

And now he is in boom or bust Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This will be an exciting season to watch.

@ericradford2142

6 ай бұрын

Boom

I'll always love Baker, man. He made me a football fan, he helped our community so much, and he brought us a playoff win, something my parents hadn't seen since they were younger than me. Love you Baker, and if this is how the browns treat my favorite quarterback, then the franchise just lost another fan.

When Deshaun plays 0 downs for Cleveland I will laugh my ass off so much

@bdawg4231

2 жыл бұрын

Cope more

I wonder if Carolina misses him yet

@Jmisaprodriver

6 ай бұрын

Carolina was a dumpster fire.

@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK

6 ай бұрын

@@Jmisaprodriver and now it’s even more of one with their new bust of a qb

@Jmisaprodriver

6 ай бұрын

@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK Bryce Young could be good, no way baker looks like 2020 baker after leaving Carolina. Just shows they were the problem.

@ericradford2142

6 ай бұрын

They do

@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK

6 ай бұрын

@@Jmisaprodriver yes but after this year he’s been downgraded to a project qb at best. They should’ve sat him for at least the first half of the year and learned him the playbook. Especially seeing how Andy Dalton has done well on garbage teams his entire career. I guarantee he would’ve done better

The move away from Baker Mayfield to Deshaun Watson has made me quit being a Browns fan

Cant wait for the Steelers video - No Big Ben - No Heinz Field - Kevin Colbert is gone It’s truly going to be the Yinzer Special

If Kevin Stefanski had stepped up and shut Baker down during the season when he was clearly in no condition to perform whatsoever then maybe he’d still be the QB of the browns right now

@bdawg4231

2 жыл бұрын

And when they do that Baker throws a shit fit demanding a trade & the Browns end of Watson anyways.

@LordLowe

2 жыл бұрын

@@bdawg4231 and he Shoulda called up security to beat the living shit out of Baker

After seeing how dirty baker was done by the browns I hope he can come back and re bound, dude isint a great QB but I hope he finds success

@jluchette

2 жыл бұрын

Same. We know he’s not a “great” but we still don’t know if he’s like middle of the road starter, a career back-up, or if he he’ll even be around in a few years.

@hdague1162

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, Jared Goff and Carson Wentz too. They got shafted by their teams after an MVP season and Superbowl appearance respectively.

I Love how you incorporate some of the most unkown 16-bit genesis songs with some football music you are one of my favorite football youtubers and I absolutely enjoy your comedy that goes along with your videos!

It’s funny how everyone clowned the browns for having baker and how he held them back. As soon as they get an upgrade they suddenly are bad guys

@SerialGrunt

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody would be doing this if one of the other 15 teams that wanted to get Deshaun had ended up with him. Public perception and mob mentality are drugs. None of the other teams would be clowned on

You definitely nailed every aspect of this, Tree. Mayfield needed to be saved from himself when he tore his labrum in Week 2 last season, but the Browns let him play on. The results spoke for themselves. And for good measure, the Browns screwed Mayfield by taking him he was still their starter before turning around and trading for Watson. Honestly, I hope the Browns fall apart without Mayfield this season. He may not have been a game changing qb, but he helped the Browns become a better team.

As a baker fan, I hope he lights up the league

Thank you so much for using the Sonic 3 mini boss music in this video. Chefs kiss

The opening with the sponsor made this video so much better

I admire his toughness, but man now I gotta root for him after trolling the last 4 years

@DelGTAGrndrs

2 жыл бұрын

Soft

Can we have part 2 of this now that Carolina cut him

I want to see Baker Mayfield absolutely destroy the Browns in week 1 and then go to the Cleveland bench to extend out his arm like he wants a handshake before yanking it back and giving the whole organization a DX style crotch chop.

Baker trying to prove to the Browns he's tough and willing to play through injuries cost him his job... insane...

I can’t wait to see all the progressive baker mayfield commercials with the Carolina panthers stadium as his home.

@Donald_the_Potholer

2 жыл бұрын

Progressive's contract is for Cleveland's QB, not Baker specifically. Maybe they pivot to Chunt for a year while DeShaun gets his affairs sorted out.

Finally here he year he.... Baker Mayfield is out of the factory of sadness Thank you @Urinatingtree for creating this video

fully torn labrum is one of the most nagging and painful injuries you can have. I have zero idea how this man thought he could be an nfl qb

Excellent stock footage choice for the ad. Good shit tree.

I think Baker can still be a good QB once his shoulder heals. I think the Browns made some huge mistakes this off-season. I see the DeShawn Watson deal blowing up on them.

Baker Mayfield is already gonna be the panther 2nd best qb and yes there’s no competition

@coreylineberry8557

2 жыл бұрын

2nd? You mean overall? I'd say Delhomme would be 2nd.

@prabbJacoby

2 жыл бұрын

Jake delhomme?

@coreylineberry8557

2 жыл бұрын

@@prabbJacoby Yeah. He led Carolina to a Super Bowl.

@BokuGlack

2 жыл бұрын

L take fr

@MazeDaGr8

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreylineberry8557 so did Cam

That intro sponsor was off the rails in the best possible way, loved it!

I never ever thought I would see Baker Mayfield as a sympathetic figure on this channel. Way to go, Tree!!

I'm in the middle on Baker. He's an average QB. Even his 2020 season when they made the playoffs, he was middle of the pack in the league in terms of yards and TDs. He's definitely an upgrade over Darnold, but who isn't at this point? The funniest thing is the Browns will pay Baker $588k week 1 to play AGAINST them.

i hope he’s the one to lead carolina to the promised land. i believe he can do it.

Oh this is one we’ve been waiting for!!!(Commenting during opening ads). I’m sure day one nhl draft hawks burial will be on its way soon.

Without a doubt this "Established Titles" is the best sponsorship Tree's ever done 🤣

In a way, I knew this was going to happen. I wanted Baker put on IR immediately after it was reported what the injury was. Case Keenum was one of the better backups in the league, and I honestly think the Browns have the same record with Keenum as they did with Baker. That’s how bad a torn labrum is. After they did what I knew they would do and panicked for Deshaun Watson, I abandoned them for good. Now I am a simple Lions fan. _gasp_ Imagine only rooting for one team like 99% of fans! Couldn’t be me!

as a browns fan who watched almost every start of baker in NFL i think i'm qualified to say that he is a good QB, just not good enough to take you to the SB. now you couple that with the fact that baker clearly had lost the locker room, and its easy to understand why the browns wanted to part ways with him watson may carry huge baggages, but as far as talent, he's much better than baker

@DelGTAGrndrs

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@davew4939

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. After all his time in Minnesota, I think Stefanski decided he liked boring, uninspiring, but consistent QB play. Cousins is his ideal QB, and I can’t think of a QB less like Cousins than Mayfield.

@Donald_the_Potholer

2 жыл бұрын

@@davew4939 boring & uninspiring QB play. DeShaun Watson's QB play. Pick One. Or maybe Stefanski didn't have a hand in this one either, meaning he's the next one to go...

I think this is the first time i've ever not skipped the paid promotion. Well done.

The Mount and Blade music during the ad is a great pull.

Baker is back

I honestly am just trying to look at the positives for this one and just hope Baker can finally just find that skill to become that star the Browns thought they were going to get with the 1st overall pick

Thank you for the video, my dearest Lord Tree

Born and raised Clevelander here. I was a huge fan of Baker in college and loved the way he played. He had a chip on his shoulder mentality that is shared by virtually all native Clevelanders, where you prove to everyone and yourself that you’re better than they think you are. He fit right into our city. I’ll admit that I was incredibly frustrated with his play his second season and last year, but was willing to give him grace bc of bad coaching, injuries, and the fact that I believe that he gave his all to the team and to the city. You could tell that he took pride in that. I completely agree with UT regarding the fact that if Baker simply sat out and healed up right when he got hurt, he’d be the starting QB still. The fact is that the front office felt pressure (both internally and externally) to win NOW (another Cleveland trait) and in doing so alienated a ton of fans by dumping a QB who gave his all to the franchise and signing an actual predator. Personally I plan on openly pulling for Carolina to beat the Browns in Week 1 and I’m finding it hard to support my team right now. I know that I’m not the only Browns fan that feels that way by any means. Good luck Baker!

This honestly makes me wayyyyyy more confident about my panthers chances this year (if CMC can stop his legs and/or knees from dying)

@nextlevelgamer25

2 жыл бұрын

Well they also picked up a new solid running back so hopefully he can give CMC a much needed break

@stryker_25

2 жыл бұрын

People are relentlessly shitting on baker for having a shit year even though he was beat tf up in 2021, your panthers will be just fine being led by a healthy Mayfield