An excellent list to consider for size & weight, opportunity cost alternatives... www.americanpartisan.org/2020/06/badlands-fieldcraft-opinion-10-cs-of-survivability/

@sniperbait1

4 жыл бұрын

Great video I came over from american partisan. For mountain biking I have a chest pack from HPG and carry my glock 19 along with a small survival kit and extra ammo.

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

Great content over there at American Partisan. Mountain bike is a versatile means of covering all kinds of terrain. HPG is great for cool weather rides and I'll endure it in hot weather if in Griz country. Where do you MTB?

@sniperbait1

4 жыл бұрын

@@AmbGun I'm in texas not to many mountains but we've got a lot of good trails.

@unitedstatesirie7431

3 жыл бұрын

the KEL-TEC company recommends to NOT use silencers on their KEL-TEC SU16C 5.56mm rifles because the back pressure pushing the bolt back faster will cause the receiver to crack. Two questions. Question 1: can you show me how to install the factory original sling onto to KEL-TEC SU16 C rifle ? Questions 2: Why can't the KEL-TEC SU16 C rifle be used as a battle rifle ??

@Rick_Sanchez_C137_

2 жыл бұрын

@@unitedstatesirie7431 he can’t, because it doesn’t have the appropriate barrel, but most people on a battlefield will never rapid fire three magazines (which is where this weapon would start to have issues melting the plastics).

Decent, practical review. The SU-16c is a great gun. I have had mine for several years now with no hiccups or issues what so ever. Reliable piece of equipment in a small package

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

Be sure to check out my followup where I simplified mine SU16c with Tech Sights (forthcoming review of Tech Sights on AK47). kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2x_vJdvkbuofrg.html

The best function of the bipod is to ground the carbine to deal with mud. I mount a red dot sight and you can extend a bit beyond the rail. I carry my SU16Ca in a baseball bag with a minimal chest carry rig and any extras. Mounting a sling is a challenge but I do have a two position sling. I generally carry this in my truck when I travel...as well as a pistol. I tend to shoot this carbine a lot but would NOT advocate it for bear.

@AmbGun

6 ай бұрын

I should have thought of the mud thing. While we don't get much rain in Wyoming, my favorite shooting playground is the bentonite badlands in the Big Horn Basin. When it get s rained on it's an utter sticky, greasy mess. And I have done exactly as you say, using the bipod to prevent keep the action above the goo. I pretty much gave up on using a sling and carry it almost exclusively in the Eberlestock Mini-Me backpack with a shortened scabbard. And in keeping with it's compact lightweight simplicity, I dropped all optics and ultimately went with Tech-Sights. www.ambgun.com/ambidextral-rifle/backpackrifle

I have 2 of the c models and never any issues and very happy with them! I carried one today!

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

They are such cool little carbines. Be sure to check out my followup video... kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2x_vJdvkbuofrg.html

@Ghille-Suit-Domeshot

3 жыл бұрын

I'm buying one.

@Sevisstillalive

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone have the E model?

@tomb4568

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sevisstillalive I have a E model too. I might have 150 rounds through it never any issues! I like how light it is lighter than most ARs!

@unitedstatesirie7431

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomb4568 attach a zip-tie to keep the upper and lower receiver together so the bolt will not hit you in the face if and when the upper receiver cracks and breaks apart. ⚠ THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I have zip-ties on the two new KEL TEC SU 16C rifles I own.

Every time you curse it takes me off guard lol. Such a kind looking man with a sweet voice then I hear "DON'T FUCK IT UP!"

@AmbGun

8 ай бұрын

Key to potency is avoiding overuse.

this is the best vid on the KELTEC SU16 i have ever seen I like the straight forward comments its great keep up the great vids

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. This is part 1 of a 3 part series. Part 2 is how to not fuk it up. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2x_vJdvkbuofrg.html

I really appreciated your honest review! Especially what you would have done differently in hindsight with the field knowledge you have now. Thank you, and here's a subscriber!

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing. You might like my follow up SU16c video where I took my own advice... kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2x_vJdvkbuofrg.html

I had an SU16CA and I loved it for the weight, but the Handguard/Bipod gets too hot if you shoot a few mags. Mine cracked on the back of the receiver, but Keltec fixed it in 2 weeks and sent it back fixed up right. I bought a PLR16 and sold the SU16CA.

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

I've not experienced hot handguard except for the bipod pivot pin...basically barrel temperature. I definitely prefer the SU16c vs CA. Forthcoming Urban Backpack Carbine Video again featuring SU16c (painted for concrete jungle) but I wish I had a PLR or P50 as a more compact option.

Love the honesty shows your genuine

Just picked up the b model yesterday from a local pawn shop, gonna try and go out today and give it a test run. Great review.

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Such a neat little carbine. Check out the other videos in my SU16 playlist. kzread.info/head/PLVlCoEE1rzM7ItsHqRcZ0T5DQRYsXg9Y6

Came for the review, stayed for the cursin' 😄

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you stayed. Usually chases people away.

Great honest video. Subscribed. I've got a CA neutered version but keep it light just like you've said, no optics (Tech Sight), thread saver only on the barrel. I love my SU16. Moving to a free state soon.

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and subscribing. Share when you can. SU16 is great carbine. Yeah, get yourself to a free state and get a real rifle.

During video editing I thought maybe I should take my own advice. Possible follow up video of my aggressive reversion to backpack rifle...removed the Red Dot, removed the flash hider, and pulled the comb pad. Considering either a Tech Sight or maybe the KelTec SU16D rear sight as a replacement for the stock. Saved 5 ounces on rifle. Reduced height allowed me to go with the smaller Eberlestock rifle scabbard for weight and bulk savings, too. KelTec SU16D Rear Sight...a reduced drag, less weight alternative to Tech Sights? www.keltecweapons.com/product/su16d-rear-peep-sight-kit/

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Backpack rifle alternative... kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKt3ysmYiqndgbQ.html

You’re opportunity cost analysis is similar to one I’ve considered myself. In the end a 10MM Glock 40 with RDS, carried in a HPG chest pack made a lot more sense than a rifle. Mind you, that’s because I’m considering it for self defense inside 50 yards from bears. There’s no sense in carrying a rifle if you aren’t going to shoot past pistol range.

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. However, the rifle proponents might claim hydrostatic shock, which our pistol cartridges can't replicate. Looking at 10mm vs 9, I can carry my Hellcat with 48 rounds vs G40 with 15. I love the HPG Runner's Kit bag for mountain biking as long as it's cool. But once it gets hot, I shift to a belt pouch which is not exactly optimal since it requires two hands to draw the pistol (in this case a PF9). Maybe I'll come up with a frame mounted holster some day.

I really like mine. Light, reliable and accurate. IMHO

I super enjoy mine. Tech sights good idea.

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

Tech Sights are a nice enhancement for the SU16c. They are a huge, huge benefit to an AK47. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKuEms1vYJiuqKg.html

These are decent gun and cheap alternative to a ruger mini 14. Just don't expect a long life out the as everything is made of plastic and the receivers are well own to crack killing the gun. But for a backup gun, backpack gun are good alternative to 9mm carbines.

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

I think of parallels in the motorcycle world. A Honda dual sport bike is heavy, but will run forever with minimal maintenance. A CR250F motocross bike is much lighter and far more powerful, but without extensive maintenance it'll suffer a catastrophic failure pretty quickly.

Keltec pmr 30 is an awesome handgun has rails for extras but the factory sights are completely acceptable and super light very viable carry gun

@randalthor6872

2 жыл бұрын

30 rounds of .22magnum! Heck yea, sir! I'm hunting for one as we speak lol cheers bud

Always wanted one of those little guys. My buddy had one for years and loved it. Wonder if it's even possible with all the panic buying lately...

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

I've seen them occasionally on Gun Broker and Guns America. Great little backpacking or CCW carbines.

@regisphilbinsscrotum6631

4 жыл бұрын

@@AmbGun I'll have to convince the wife to let me spend more of my money 🤣 These used to be cheap so maybe I wont get too much push back. I'll just show her a picture of Seattle lol On the sub and view count:you always get more views than subs at first.most of the fledgling creators I've seen just ask you to subscribe at the start of their videos. You've grown a but since I started watching. Your content has definitely gotten better and hopefully you'll keep growing. I saw your fnc vid had 5000 views!😀 Just keep plugging away at it!youtube actively suppresses this type of content. Maybe look at what made the fn vid be so popular and try to emulate that some more. I liked the shooting with bloody hands vid!that type of stuff is engaging.

@AmbGun

4 жыл бұрын

@@regisphilbinsscrotum6631 I can tell from your encouragement that you watched to the end. Thanks. I do want to do a "Bloody Hands" follow up on the micro 9's...but man what a mess to clean up. My channel's purpose is ambidextrous advocacy but I have concluded that videos show how and why do poorly, so review videos that bootleg some of the philosophy is how I've adapted.

@regisphilbinsscrotum6631

4 жыл бұрын

@@AmbGun haha yep I did. It seems to be working!growth is always super slow at first but the more you get,the more it gets shared and that feeds the algorithm.

@keatonkitsune4064

3 жыл бұрын

I managed to find an all black SU-16C on Gunbroker, snatched it up immediately. The price is up for me cause of shipping and transfer fee, but otherwise it was sold at the appropriate price. Hope ya get lucky and find one for cheaper than me! XD

I think it’s cool although I’m not sure I would ever want or need it as my sub2000 serves this purpose just fine for me especially for backpacking

Where do you find these 13 round magazines? I haven't found much in between 10 and 20

Great video. Any details on the cheek rest ?looks great &very simple.

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Cheek Pad amzn.to/39UfTly

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

But I recommend considering my "Optimizing" video and just going with Tech-Sights...and you won't need the riser. kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2x_vJdvkbuofrg.html

he does have a point about the suppressor because you said to wear ear pro, but if they would release a 300 blackout version, now I could justify putting a suppressor on it because they are black out of substantially below hearing safe compared to an spress firearms and other calibers suppressed

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

A quick detach suppressor would be nice for the backpack carbine. As long as it either doesn't significantly affect the zero or it consistently changes zero such that you can account for it. www.ambgun.com

I see these as greay pack/hunting rifles. Or rifles to give to someone that doesnt need frills or extra capabilities

@AmbGun

10 ай бұрын

Yes, a niche rifle. There are better choices for a general purpose rifle.

It is possible to get higher compacity round mags for the su16c? Like a drum mag?

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, standard drums should work. I'm not a fan, though, I prefer 10 round or 20 round mags. Less weight on the rifle, more maneuverability from behind cover. Folding stock can fold over on top of a 10 or 20 rounder (although the 20 sticks out a bit. SU16c folded on a 10 rounder slips nicely into backpack scabbard...whereas 20 rounder creates a bit of friction.

@trevorbrowning7792

3 жыл бұрын

@@AmbGun cool thanks and yeah I've seen where it folded over a 10 and 20 rounder that's what caught my eye

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

It's a great little rifle. Astonishingly light...feels like a toy. I used one to shoot "Rifleman" score at a known distance Project Appleseed event, but it was a stretch. Between the Wyoming heat and the sustained fire (40 rounds total), the polymer tends to get a bit flexy. Really needs to be painted with a color that isn't a solar heat sink. A Project Appleseed event or two and you'll do well with almost any rifle. Check out my Appleseed Prep series... kzread.info/head/PLVlCoEE1rzM7jz7TXjXMUFJNkJ6YnBy1i

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Project Appleseed...in almost every state. Affordable instruction. Great fun. www.appleseedinfo.org

1000 rounds of 115 grain FMJ 9MM weighs 26.45LBS.

@AmbGun

5 ай бұрын

Sounds about right. In boxes, loose, or loaded in mags?

@spacetruckin6555

5 ай бұрын

@@AmbGun loose rounds.

One of the reasons I like the 16c is because it doesn't look like an AR, no need to scare civilians and neighbors.

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Follow up video maybe makes it look a bit tamer, too... kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2x_vJdvkbuofrg.html

@Cag57o

3 жыл бұрын

Idgaf if they are scared that thing wouldnt last through a rifle class that i do know better off with a ruger 10 22 more reliable hands down prove me wrong

I subbed, don't care about the bike but cool gun brother hahaha 🤣 no I used to ride a Shimano racing bike from way back I was like 16 it was fun and fast. But the gun is why I stopped by haha. My buddy just got one from his grandfather when he passed and I was looking up some info for him and all the reviews about this gun I have seen are positive.

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

Well don't be a buzz kill. Shoot 'n scoot... kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6OYy5lmiKjKebQ.html

@BUZZKILLJRJR

2 жыл бұрын

@@AmbGun 🤣

Do the new models still fold like that?

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

There are several variants, but the SU16C still folds and can even be fired when folded. The other models are remove the pin, take down models that cannot be fired in their compact state.

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

www.keltecweapons.com/firearms/rifles/su16/

I’m new subscriber

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

Cool!. What brought you here? AmbGun is mostly about becoming ambidextrous...most reviews try to smuggle in something ambi. www.ambgun.com

Like the man said "Fuck a suppressor."

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

In this context, for me, yep. But in the Urban Backpack Carbine (third episode in this series), a can might be useful.

I would but a 13.7 barrel on it with a pinned and welded muzzle device.

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't experimented on the SU16c as much as the RDB, but on the RDB, I've come to favor longer barrel rather than brakes or flash hiders. There are three videos in my RDB playlist where I experimented with this stuff. In part two of this series, I removed the flash hider and went with a simple thread protector. A forthcoming Urban Backpack Carbine video, I went with the same. RDB Testing... kzread.info/head/PLVlCoEE1rzM60wsyiKI5X6CuBlRYCRSkI

Comparing the use for weight to different fires is a great idea. Butt you need to include other guns then just some 9mm pistols. I.E. sub 2000, a .44 mag pistol etc. Power for weight. I respect that not every gun is my battle rifle, and not every gun is my favorite .22.

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

P17 with two to five extra mags is my preferred backcountry firearm nowadays. kzread.info/head/PLVlCoEE1rzM5sOT82t51JnDu0F9ZCkv1h

Short stroke?

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Short stroke on loading? I don't recall any issues. The charging handle is angled to act as a case deflector so potentially your hand could slip off when using it, but I've never had it actually happen.

A great rifle, but the back of the receiver broke? How is that a great rifle?

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely not a "battle rifle", it's a lightweight, compact thoroughbred. Forthcoming video on an Urban Backpack Carbine...featuring one of our other SU16cs. They are great backpack carbines, but for a general purpose personal defense rifle, I'd go with the KelTec RDB or a BCM RECCE.

@jeffwyatt9255

3 жыл бұрын

@@AmbGun I will stay with a proven AR platform. Bought one (SU16E) a day ago, and after I saw the vid about cracking the rear receiver, I sold it immediately

Motorcycle gun review please.

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

I do have some videos advocating LH carry and initial presentation (once ambi) with motorcycle being one of the reasons. Maybe next summer I can do a ride and shout video. www.ambgun.com/ambidextral-pistol/LHcarry

If I knew receivers break, I would have never have bought one. Haven't shot, and probably never will now

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

Only of of the four we own had it happen. I believe the problem was the gas system op rod was unthreading...otherwise the gun should function just fine with the back of the receiver cut completely off. I'm pretty sure KelTec fixed the issue, but I don't know the cut-off date for when it went into production. I'd shoot the shit out of it and it it fails send it in. KelTec CS is excellent.

Contact MCARBO for replacement trigger for it.

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

MCARBO looks to have quality stuff. Maybe next year I can test their upgrades to the SU16c, PF9, and RDB.

10:12 Dude are you wearing depends? 😂

@AmbGun

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, are you checking out my ass? 😁 Cool with it if you're a misses. Mountain bike padded liner...and that'll be my assertion until the day I die.

The B model is considered the "backpack" model.

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

I've never heard it referenced that way. It's not bad as a backpack rifle, just not nearly as good as the "C". For one thing the C can be fired folded. The B requires manipulating an assembly pin before it can fire. Another is that the "B" has a big fish hook of a front sight that would be a snag hinderance.

👍

Can you not just take off the flash hider ?

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

A thread protector is just to prevent damage to the threads in case you want to add a muzzle device in the future...and it looks better. I did quite a bit of testing of the RDB without a flash hider, threads exposed...only recently landed a KelTec custom thread protector for it.

⚠ I HAVE A ZIP-TIE WRAPPED AROUND THE UPPER AND LOWER RECEIVER OF MY KEL-TEC SU 16C RIFLE TO KEEP THE BOLT FROM HITTING ME IN THE FACE IF THE UPPER RECEIVER BREAKS .

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

You could cut away that back of the receiver and the bolt still won't strike you. Just like you can run an AK without the dust cover...and for the same reason.

The whole painting the gun so it won’t collect heat from the sun..... do what lol

@AmbGun

3 жыл бұрын

There is the camo breaking up the outline thing, but the immediate and noticeable benefit is when spending two days in the bright sun. A black rifle must be covered with a towel to keep the stock from getting too hot to hold, whereas the camo or FDE rifles remain cool enough without a covering. It's the same reason I don't wear black helmets and prefer white.

It is a 4 moa gun.

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

4MOA for the combination of rifle and shooter is enough to earn your Project Appleseed Rifleman patch. I earned the score at a Known Distance Appleseed with the SU16c (211 so just barely and I had to take care to keep the rifle out of the scorching sun...this was before I painted it so the black polymer got very hot and flexy). Definitely easier with my BCM where I generally score mid 230's at KD's. Or dueling 22's, the Tikka T1x and Ruger 10/22, at the standard 25 meters, 236 and 235 respectively. Or the RDB and MDR, without using the sling as a shooter's aid, for the high 220's. To get the the score, you have to shoot 4MOA prone...given that I suspect I'm at least 2 MOA of that equation...maybe more, the SU16c must be capable of better than 2MOA intrinsically. Good enough for a super lightweight rifle that folds and fits in a backpack.

lol at trigger joke

@AmbGun

6 ай бұрын

good trigger and my weak-assed jokes.

Why don't you focus on what you're doing/going to do with your rifle and not worry about what other people are doing?

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

As a Rifle Marksmanship Instructor, why don't I just focus on my own marksmanship skills.

Keltec inspire by AK under fold But Keltec Never been able to manufacture a practical gun

Hahaha

@AmbGun

Жыл бұрын

LOL