Congrats to the Suzuki team for coming out of nowhere with such a great bike/platform!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

As always, beautiful production quality, and insightful commentary. Love what you do. I also love both of these bikes. I could not pick a favorite either!

@marceliszp4803

3 ай бұрын

@BigRockMoto I saw on your channel how you drove a Transalp in offroad, but I would see destiny like this: -If you drive more on roads, choose a Honda (weaker suspension for offroad and access to the filter is difficult in dust, but it is light and the engine likes high revs). -If you like to push strong off-road, choose Tenere 700, preferably in the Extream version, but you have to be tall and strong (top heavy) and it is not comfortable for long road trips. Suzuki... combines both features, it is very comfortable on the road, but thanks to its good suspension it handles well off-road and is easier to drive offroad than the T7 (better balanced)... I chose suzuki 800de also thanks to your reviews

@k_plax

3 ай бұрын

Spoiler alert!

@wrknclass1

3 ай бұрын

Ian, I'm patiently awaiting a more thorough review of the Zook! Are you planning one?

@cranedaddy678

3 ай бұрын

More 800de please! Maybe spice it up with the 800RE model vs the transalp or something :)

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Ian. Appreciate that. The feeling is mutual! I’ve watched a ton of your stuff now and I feel like we have the same feeling about bikes 😂

Well said. We’ve all become so stuck in the spec sheet that we’ve forgotten that we don’t actually need the spec sheet.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

🙌🙌 I’m as guilty as anyone of this.

Best review of these two bikes. Great job! I went with the Suzuki :)

"and with suspension that actually works" Fantastic.

Really enjoyed this. It's so good to get such an honest and unbiased real world opinion of two bikes that many will discount just because they're not a T7 or 890 Adventure and it's just what the average adventure rider needs to hear. Cinematography was spectacular too. Without doubt my favourite Motorcycling channel!

@BrakeMagazine your videography, storytelling, and evaluations/observations are stellar. Thank you from middle America.

Great review comparison and very enjoyable to watch. I own a Transalp 750 and I've test ride a V-Strom 800 DE and although I truly respect the solidity of the VStrom and the engine's precision, the Transalp 750 it's the best compromise money can buy for 95% of the casual "adventure" segment customers, myself included. With proper experience and skills, Transalp can take you whatever place you dream.

Next level cinematography as always. Beautiful stuff man. I think either of these two bikes are the ideal machine for most adventure riders if we're being honest about our riding abilities.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I think if you’re honest about the type of riding you wanna do too. If you wanna mash some gravel roads and get your feet down they’re great.

The Transalp handles just like a CB500X, but slightly slower to tip. It’s just a lot faster and slightly heavier with a wider stature. The Transalp is closer to a CB500X than people might expect, in a great way.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Totally agree. Massive surprise tbh.

@martythompson6509

3 ай бұрын

I walked into a showroom to buy a CB 500X. Threw a leg over the TA and couldn't believe how light it felt. Bought a TA. Figured I may as well have the extra power, engine note, ground clearance, 21" front, TFT and modes if it felt as light to handle. But the biggest thing to me is it's balance. It's one of those bikes that will make a rider way more confident. From moving it around the shed to tight single track, it flatters the rider. I also believe a lot of the testers criticisms of the TA are unfounded. I took it into enduro bike territory last weekend and only bottomed the forks twice... when I messed up two erosion mound take offs and didn't get the front up, hitting the upslope on the landing. A combination of poor timing with the throttle on my part and a slight lack of grip from the stock Dunflop mixtours..... Yeah yeah...I know... what was I doing on an enduro ride with mixtours...... I was told it was easy dirt by the KTM 500 riding leader....😁

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

I actually thought the transalp was a lot closer to the Africa twin in width and weight vs the 500x. The 500x seems more like a 125cc bike to me it's very narrow indeed. And it just doesn't seem to have any weight to it. My girlfriend really wants a 500x the TA scared the he'll out of her the weight and the size.

As always, love your work. Great cinematography and thank you for toning down the background music. Perfect!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Man, I love your videos. You get it down to the point so well.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

Yet another great review from you guys, epic scenery, quality birds eye photography and as always commentary that understands the audience and provides food for thought. Thank you 🙏

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Excellent review video! Well shot, funny, and with unique insights into the bikes that so many others don't cover. This channel is definitely top tier and I'm excited to see what you come up with next. Keep up the great work!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Kind words. Thanks!

Amazing video, which explains these two bikes so well. Thanks for the shoutout too!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

🙌🙌 thanks for supporting making these video man! 🙌🙌

I have been questioning you about the vstrom 800 de video for a while. Oh well, i got a transalp review and comparo as well as a bonus. I love how you keep your content fresh and different in style than other youtubers. For exensive reviews, i have big rock moto, for short quick videos that are just informative MotoBob, for the best balance videos we got your channel. You dont beat the deadhorse like the other channels talking about the same bike over over and over. Love the video. You deserve way more susbcribers.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Nice to be talked about in those circles. I’m getting there 🙌🙌

@trailrider1980

3 ай бұрын

​​@@BrakeMagazine which one do you thinkt suits you better?

Kudos to your video editor- the little touches like the frame connecting as a timer for your commercial- really great little touches. Content is always a smash hit !!! Editing is like the icing on a cupcake

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it! It was a mix of myself and editor Joe on this one!

After 6 months of research and being as i value dependability over all else i picked the best Japanese mid bike i felt would suit my 80/20 riding, the 800de. Love it and will always be as open minded as possible but i dont want to constantly be working on any bike i have other than mods and accessories...accessories...

Wonderful channel. Absolutely fabulous reviews too. The love of bikes shows through.

Another excellent vid. Those 15 minutes just flew by. Thanks.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Fantastic video. I love the topic of “need not want” I have a WR450F that’s street legal and I’ve owned many single cylinder dualsports but I finally decided to sell my Goldwing and concours 14 and get a REAL multi cylinder adv bike. My type of riding was going to be lots and lots of highways. I live in Texas and it’s 1,000 miles just to get to Colorado. Sure I WANTED a T7 or Africa twin. I want that 21in front wheel but the more I was honest with myself the more I started to favor a shaft drive (coming from shaft drive street bikes) and a 19/17 wheel. So I looked at the GS1200 and read the horror stories of electrical gremlins and shaft drive failures and ended up with the humble Super Tenere 1200. The super tenere is a land barge. Massively heavy but it still gets the job done off-road at a slower pace and it’s great on the highway. The S Ten is arguably the most reliable motorcycle ever made. So many forum posters with 200,000 miles on their bikes. It feels more like farm equipment than a motorcycle. Tractor like. To me it’s the Toyota Land Cruiser of motorcycles

Great review Llel, Id love to try one of these modern adventure bikes. I was in at the beginning, I bought an R80g/s in '83 and ive had it ever since. Ive done a bit of trail riding with lads on T7s so i see the difference that the years have made to suspension etc.. Nice to see that manufacturers are still supporting this class of bike.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Get a test ride going! I recommend the Aprillia if you really want a night and day experience

Great review as always, but I'm most impressed with your little icons indicating how the products used in the video were acquired. Hopefully that level of transparency spreads throughout the online motorcycle journalist/youtuber world.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Brant. It’s something I hope spreads too. I don’t think anyone minds ads or that stuff but a little honesty goes a long way 😊

thanks a lot. great comments !

Excellent review and beautifully shot. I loved the no BS nature of it. Kudos.

This is the first video I've seen from you guys. Really impressed with the production quality. Subscribed.

@BrakeMagazine

2 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

Love the film quality, love the honest and fair review, top marks mate....top marks 👍

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

A well produced and thoughtful review. This is a great market segment with strong competition from nearly every make.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! Totally agree. A lot of good choice!

Great review I will definitely try the v strom before I decide what to buy. Ps great to bump into you again on the ox drove. R Adam

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Please do! You too Adam!

Nice one guys. This is exactly what's needed

Well done Llel, I love your straight forward practical take on these bikes, ones that some may turn their noses up but most would find suits them best. Bought my GS before these came out would like to have had them as an option but that’s life. Looking forward to fitting my Tailmax Raids with my Rabaconda too. Cheers Llel.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Yew! Hope that goes well. it took me a few uses to really get my head around it. Once I got the technique and order down it's been great, but it might take a while to learn!

Great review! As usual great quality video, I watch your stuff even when I have no interest in the bikes reviewed, they are that entertaining and interesting. I'm in the market for one of these, I will have to go test ride them, I like the looks of the Honda better but that Zuzuki seems to impress everyone who rides it.

Awesome video Llel & Team, well done! 👍👍

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😁

I’ve now changed to a tracer 7 with some Pirelli str tyres for my green landing and off road adventures, it’s much “easier” to handle off road than the tenere and I’ve only done one lane 😂 roll on the weekend and lots of testing to be done . Keep up the great vids fella 👍🏼

I watch everything on these bikes and I think this is the best video on them - to the point!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Love your edits to this Llel

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Excellent video, great production and I like your delivery style. Its great to have a UK based channel that is up their with BRM, Dork in the Road and dare I say it... Fortnine??!!! Great work guys.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Much appreciated! Really kind words!

Agree with your summary bikes the Adventure Bike Market needed. Bought the V4 Motool suspension tuner based on your recommendation, great work Thankyou 😂 Ewen…

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Right on! Let me know how you like it!

Great work & a fair assessment - Dropping the front that smidge on the 800 exactly the same idea as myself after a couple thousand miles.. And as for the great engine, think what a tune / ECU will do ... (a couple others out there already have it tuned up in GSX-8s and I look forward to doing this sometime later this year, the gains throughout powerband are huge). Cheers and keep it up.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

That has been living in my head for an age. A little re-fuel, a little Yoshi exhaust. Holy crap would that be fun.

@TylerMcCool

3 ай бұрын

TST Industries is one of the shops working on this.. FYI @@BrakeMagazine

Yes!!! Was really looking forward to this one

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

Great reviews as always

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Thank you for the review.

Such a great video!! 😊 Would you mind sharing gpx for the trip?

Incredible drone shots

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

Nice video. I think you described these bikes perfectly.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

The humour is coming together-good stuff

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Cheers man. Tryna let it leak in there slowly 😅

Great review! One of the best reviewers on yt! What is your personal adv bike?

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! I don't have a personal ADV atm. I have a Yamaha WR 250F enduro, and my 2015 Dakar bike. No more room in the garage!

Thanks for a great video review of these two machines. Probably one of the more sensible tests I have seen of these two bikes. That is: ridden how most people would probably ride them. 👍🇦🇺

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@mullins6429

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine I really enjoy your videos. I just prefer to hear what a bike can do rather than what it can’t do. I can figure out what a bike can’t do on my own.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

😂 Thanks. I enjoy making them too, and it's rad to hear that people get something from them.

Great video, thank you! I only tested the transalp out of the two, and only on road. Significantly lighter and more nimble than my Tiger 900 Rally Pr (although I love my bike). Transalp is great for do it all bike in my opinion. It is good for London traffic, touring and some off roading. If I had to have 1 bike only, this would be the choice for sure. I am only a bit scared of tubed tires in case of trouble somewhere in Pyrenees or Alps.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I mean, tubes aren’t perfect but it’s not mad hard to learn to change them. If you prep them well then they should be pretty reliable.

@marksimpson5218

3 ай бұрын

Tubed tires are what real adventure riders use. Itchy boots the most travelled women on the planet.😂

@nkwd007

3 ай бұрын

I just don't understand why would you go through the effort of removing the wheel (caring more tools..) and waste time and energy, when you may just put the plug in and go? @@marksimpson5218

An excellent balanced review. Personally I decided on the suzuki, it's base inclusions, better and simpler electronics, and more sophisticated and capable suspension made it a better value proposition for me. The flexibility of the engine is icing on the cake. However I couldn't adjust the shock to my preferred rider sag, even with the preload wound all the way up, I guess slightly heavier spring for the shock at least is in my near future.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I think you’ll likely wanna do both front and rear to keep them balanced 😌

Its really interesting watching this :) ive been trying to work out what to get my dad ive gone from a 1200gs te rallye (himmy rejected)- 300 Rally to a 2004 1150GSA for ease of maintenance an it really fitted my needs for the riding i wanted Im no Pol thats for sure! I think for most of us even the Suzuki an the Transalp are still big bikes id love to see more sub 200kg ones the difference between the Himalayans weight and 300 rally was huge to me as someone that gave green laning a whirl. Ive got alot of seat time on older stuff from 1927 to the 60s n 80s an the seats an seat heights were so much better! Id love to see some more lighter 500 twins on the market especially a boxer 500. I feel like stuff like that would suit alot of us, with simplicity at the core of the design ethos and ease of Maitinece 10-12k is still a hell of alot of money to alot of us really like the transparency of the review style inc the graphics ive been watching review videos all evening an some are so so vague on whether they are paid or press bikes. Awesome video as always 👌

@pigmeal2224

3 ай бұрын

Maybe watch for that CF Moto 450MT coming soon. I believe it'll make a lot of folks happy ...

Like the XL very much. Thanks again for a great review.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Glad to see someone treating the transalp like a transalp, and not going on and on about how if you just put $6,000 of parts on it you can turn it into the ADV bike "it was meant to be." 🤮 Transalp is a transalp, not a GS, for the better.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I'm glad you think it was the right approach!

Great vid, beautiful riding Couldn't agree more.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Sam, you're making me blush!

@samhill3496

3 ай бұрын

hahaha@@BrakeMagazine

Too funny!!! I did a search for comparison reviews on these two bikes just a couple hours before this video was launched. I intend to buy one of these, probably the Suzi

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

You won't be disappointed.

Great video and review 👍

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it

My guy, you've got the voice over thing DIALLED.😉 And we both know that's the hardest part. Seriously though, that is a top notch video. Oh and that '91 Africa Twin at 00:44 is a thing of beauty.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏 It was a pretty one for sure!

Great great great and to the point .. It always comes down to the rider knowing themselves and understanding what kind of riding brings them the most joy . I have a 30 " inseam .. It's the Transalp for me .. I would love BMW to jump in with a Earles front fork and a good mono shock in the back on a 800 boxer with a 5 USgallon tank and great brakes ...

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

You and me both. Wouldn’t a mid sized boxer be incredible

If you haven't already, you seriously need to thoroughly test the Tuareg660. Slightly less comfortable on the road because of the narrower seat, but makes up for it with the stock cruise control. And off the road significantly better suspension than even the Vstrom. The T7 isn't even in the competition anymore.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Don’t you worry 🙌🙌

@chukku2175

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine awesome

great review. id love to go buy a 800de and find out where you rode and go try some non tarmac riding,

I love your videos. so good that I've added to my favorite video list. thank you. I have the super limited 2024 KTM 890 rally, and yet as a second bike I'm getting a transalp... love it

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Wow! That’s a collection! Thanks for the kind words 🙏

@aslankarnuf

3 ай бұрын

You're one of the very very few who actually tell things how they are. KZread needs more people like you@@BrakeMagazine

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Have had the VStrom 6 weeks now ... a very fair review you've managed 👏👏. We loved the TA too, and in Australia it's 3 grand cheaper ... but the electronics and the awful airbox access were the clangers for us.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

It’s about the same price cheaper here until you spec any extras to bring them to a similar . The extras on the Honda are pretty pricey and they brings them inline. I now just think of them at the about the same.

@DJRomaM

22 күн бұрын

Here in Europe 800DE is 500euro cheaper than the base Transalp. Are you saying that in your country the Transalp is 3k cheaper than the 800DE?

@pigmeal2224

22 күн бұрын

@@DJRomaM yes, that is correct.

@DJRomaM

22 күн бұрын

@@pigmeal2224 that's strange

@BrakeMagazine

21 күн бұрын

@@DJRomaM Yes.

A middle-weight category comparo with a few riders of different sizes and skill would be amazing!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

It would be great to do one but putting a budget together to do it is nearly impossible for us at the moment. Even these two bikes ones the cost is a lot.

First off I’ve really been looking forward to this video! 👍 I looked at the transalp and immediately discounted it due to the very low sump! I live in North Wales and recognise some of the trails in the video, taking that in to account should I look to the Suzuki or take another look at the Honda? Most people I think would run the Yamaha but it’s too tall for me.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

If you have a good sump guard then it’ll be absolutely fine. The times you’re gonna hit this are on trails that you’re gonna struggled to get the bike along anyway. Mmm. Kinda depends on your riding level. The Honda is a little easier to ride but both are good bikes.

Great quality video!

This is a great review, guys. Take a bow.

Great review Llel. When I'm ready to trade-in my F750GS, I'm fairly sure it will be for the Transalp. The only thing that puts me off is the tubed tyres. Not easy to repair when you're a long way from home.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

You can convert them to tubeless if you want. There is a company called BART Tubeless that do it or you can DIY convert pretty easily too. That'll be an awesome upgrade of your bike.

@SteveSeadog

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine Useful info. Thanks.

I personally feel like I'd be perfectly happy on the T7, Vstrom, or Transalp. Each having their own strengths and weaknesses and needing upgrades or parts swaps but all 3 appear to be great bikes. I went with the Transalp as I'm more on-road than off and prefer the better wind protection and more comfortable seat than the T7 and I like the extra power and lower weight than the Vstrom, and I also personally think it's the best looking although I do wish we got the gold wheel option in North America I need to find some old Africa Twin wheels to try out :)

@chrishart8548

3 ай бұрын

Doubt they would fit. Maybe get the wheels rebuilt and at the same time make them tubeless.

just bought the 800 the quick shifter is insane!

As always, a perfect video and very well explained. As a V-Strom 800 fan, I can only agree with your assessment.

@BrakeMagazine

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Watch OnTheBackWheel ride the 800DE, then tell me again what the bike can't do. For me it was an easy choice, I prefer off road and the 800DE is the clear winner.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I think you misunderstand. It can do a lot, it’s just not as easy as some other bikes, like the Transalp. Andy is less experienced than me and when it got tricky he struggled more on the DE than the Transalp. Not saying the Suzuki is bad and I get why you love it. Great bike.

Nicely balanced realistic review .😊Those outback motortek bars are very solid. But, any problems adjusting the gear lever for off road boots? My bars prevent that...🤔

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I didn’t notice a problem with the height of the gear lever to try.

@podunkman2709

3 ай бұрын

Must be balanced - sponsors expect that. This is business.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Not really. I'm happy to call a spade a spade. That's why we have the system for stating how money was spent on everything in the channel. The gear lever came in a good position so I never bothered adjusting it and therefore never encountered the problem. :)@@podunkman2709

I don't know which of these bikes is better.... but I DO know which moto-journalist has the best hair in the industry. I love that you're responding to the comments with the right amount of Sass they deserve. Keep on trucking, mate!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you! 🤩 Lucy cuts my hair and was very happy about this comment too 😂😂

Mind if I ask where you ride taking these shots? Looks awesome, would love to get my 98 Africa twin on some of these trails! Mainly ridden round Cummbria which looks very similar, but im stuck in the south at the moment and its all too flat XD

Interesting review, thanks. It looks like the Suzuki is a bit better as the Honda has a few issues like not remembering settings and placement of the horn button where the indicator is supposed to be, as well as more difficult air filter replacement.

@anxiousappliance

3 ай бұрын

Horn button- really? It is 50lbs lighter and overall more agile and tactile. The Suzi is more stolid. Depends on what you like.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I actually agree with you on button placement. Honda's are a bit confusing to my thumbs. I definitely mashed on the horn multiple times when trying to cancel the indicator.

@betasub

27 күн бұрын

​@@anxiousappliance in France, "moto journal" compared the two bikes in the same configuration and the difference was only 6kgs (12lbs I think).

If my 890 Duke didn’t steal my heart before I jumped in the dirt with the Adventure, I would’ve ended up with a Transalp I think. Unfortunately for me I’ve caught KTMitis but someday I hope to be able to take a spin on a Transalp. Can’t wait to see more of both these bikes around in the US. It’s lonely off-road in my neck of the woods.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

That’s hilarious. You’ll recover eventually

Do you plan to make graphics for BMW 1250GS any time soon?

Aprilia Taureg,post lockdown production bikes(Yamaha's French built bikes had similar QC issues) ,is still the one to go to,but the 2024 BMW F900GS might just be the surprise package, albeit price?

Good review. The best advice I ever received was to make a choice and enjoy the bike. You can customize it as needed, and you can always change your mind later. Or you can sit behind a computer screen or phone and compare and complain about specs until your head explodes. The people that want something to meet every little, tiny requirement before they go and do so something or delay living life until everything is perfect are never happy anyway.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Amen

Great video. Amazing quality as well. I wonder, how is the seat on the Transalp compare to CB500X? I've had a CB500X '22 for a year, and could'nt stand the seat on longer rides. I now have T7 with original seat, and it is much better for my bottom. Even tough it's better, I feel in the bottom after som hours on the Highway... I also felt the CB500X was a bit to cramped for me. I feel the T7 is better for my height (190cm). Althoug it is a bit top heavy. Has anyone compared the seat on T7, CB500X, Transalp and Vstrom 800DE? I guess I have to try them all..

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

It's hard to say without a direct test.

Love the review and the comparison but the only reason I would stay away from both of them would be tubed type rims which means not having tubeless tyres and a lot of hassle to change them ... I would take my scrambler 1200x or XE or the tiger 900 over these two any day, it would do the job just fine.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I agree, I would like them too. I much prefer it and those are great bikes.

@davidcolinfisher1034

3 ай бұрын

You may have missed the point he made about the Suzuki engine....being...amazing....take a test ride one day and see what you think

I have a 2009 VStrom 650. It runs well. It does highway all day at 130kph. It does forestry roads. I can two up. I can haul camping gear. It’s good on gas. It’s easy to work on. With a bit of body protection I started taking it down rockier trails too. 15 years in it’s a good bike. If you are looking for a long term bike you can’t go wrong with the Suzuki.

Great video...I thought the Suzuki was a bit bland from original reports, but it seems like an attractive buy now. Have you put the Aprilia 660 to test yet?

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Yes. It's coming shortly. I don't think the Suzuki is bland at all.

@richardsimpson3792

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine Watching he motorcycle market over the last few years, I thought either Suzuki was looking for a dignified gentle exit, or had something good up its sleeve. As a former Suzuki DR350 owner, I'm glad that it looks like the latter outcome. If my old KTM died, I'd look at that 800 Suzuki as an option to replace it. I rode the 890 Adv and didn't feel any connection with it at all, which was sad.

Really loving my Transalp so far.

Really loved these video, as always, everything is top-notch. The one thing that I just cannot love about the trans out. Is that front end, like you said if it was Dakar’d it would be a completely different story for me. Am hoping that Honda brings out a 2025 model with that new NX 500 style front end and it would be a peach.✌️

@theeschatechannel2854

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. Although the transalp front end doesn’t bother me as much as it used to, I still think it would look better with a rectangular headlight. Check out the CRF 190L. Honda nailed the styling on that one.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I agree. It’s not my flavour of design but from some angles I like it.

@hondaexplorer

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine the profile of the bike with some more aggressive tires is amazing, it’s just that Honda parts been headlight that they use across so many models let it down

Would love to know what route you did for this video! The trails look great! Also, I've got a Vstrom 650XT. Is the 800 worth the upgrade?

@richardhretczak536

Ай бұрын

All depends what you want to do with it. Personally I would perhaps go for 800RE for the lower weight, 19” front wheel and tubeless tires.

Great review and filming. I currently ride a GSX 8S so I know about the motor but both the Transalp and the Vstrom 800 are too big for me 😢. Im 😢considering a Vstrom 650 as its more manageable and I can mostly get my feet on the floor.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Could try a lowering kit on the Transalp

@richardhretczak536

Ай бұрын

Maybe you should consider 800 RE. Lighter than DE, 19” front wheel and tubeless tires.

Transalp for me. If that was Barmouth area, you had a good day out. 👊

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Full loop around that area! Hereford to Hereford loop 😀

I had zero interest in the transalp but after watching various review videos I'm actually starting to become interested. Everybody loves the V-Strom and I've never met an unhappy V-Strom owner. And I've ridden with some guys who are on V-Strom who can ride the heck out of those things and they seem to take all of it and continue to run smoothly

And we were bought up with Paris Dakar haha.

1. New Transalp is the best Transalp 2. Glad to see Outback M. As a sponsor. They grew so much these years, absolutely deserved 👍 3. Thanks for the review

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

How would you compare these to the 790/890 adventure S or the non R verison?

British fortnine. Very nicely made.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Well shit, that’s high praise!

Seems the other bike that might belong in this group is the non-R 890. I’d be interested to see how that comparo looks.

Both really nice bikes. If you live in a sparsely populated country with lots of (good quality) dirt roads the new V-Strom seems like a perfect pick. Living in densely populated Central Europe featuring many nice tarmac roads I naturally opted for a road going bike (in my case a Tracer 900).

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Depending where you live, there is aTON of gravel road in Central Europe! From the UK, we head to Europe for the good riding!

@intensegamer7559

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine Well, if you mean Eastern European countries like Hungary and Romania you are right. But again, I live in Central Europe, meaning i.e. Austria and Germany. Please try riding on gravel roads there for a while without getting into (serious) trouble. Cheers

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I mean more in France, Italy, Spain, Portugal. I get that Austria, Switzerland and Germany are off limits :)@@intensegamer7559

@intensegamer7559

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine Yes, Spain is really empty when it comes to people. Good country for offroading :)

I love that we are having mid weight arguments around ADV again, used to be only two manufacturers really filled that role, but now we got a whole hot market to argue over. T7 vs Transalp, 890 against the Pstrom 800 (jokes), and all the other lively conversation on the trail, an exciting time for our market and our sport.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

I totally agree. The thing is, they’re are all genuinely good bikes. Don’t forget about the Tiger and potentially fixed F 900 GS.

@francescoporcari8597

3 ай бұрын

​@@BrakeMagazinehe forgot possibly the best one: the Tuareg.

@iangriffiths9930

3 ай бұрын

I’ve been looking at the Aprilia but there seems to be a lot of issues with it when you look at the forums. Nothing major but still.

@francescoporcari8597

3 ай бұрын

@@iangriffiths9930 you know, people tend to highlight the issues, and if you google for issues you only find news about them. As far as I got the 2024 model year has solved the issues. The dealer network could be a point of concern, though.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

He doesn’t know yet. He will 😂😂

Where did you do all this beautiful riding if I may ask?

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Mid and North Wales. Mostly the Trans Euro Trail.

AHHHHHHHHHHHH now I want both!!!!

I wasn't brought up with this, my words exactly, I watched Carl Fogarty "Foggy", I've had mostly sports bikes the 02 R6 is still my favourite bike that I've owned, so switching to a bike that's around twice as heavy, I feel like I'm learning to ride a bike again

the most insane review about these bikes on youtube!

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

Good insane or actually insane?

@Junkfiles446

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakeMagazine ofcourse the good insane insane. pretty detailed review. not just on the specshit but on the realworld with really deep detailed comparison. never see anyone does this much. its insane. i leave a sub. thank you for this content.

@BrakeMagazine

3 ай бұрын

@@Junkfiles446 thanks! Kind words.