I've flown the A350 across the pacific and returned on the 777 and I found a striking commonality between them. This video makes sense of it all. The 350 is a massive plane. It looks small from the outside due to its styling but it is massive! Cheers!

@holdensv2000

3 жыл бұрын

the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later

@rel6438

3 жыл бұрын

Richard Reid American Airlines did not choose the a350, United and Delta airline did

@AA-tz2bm

3 жыл бұрын

Rel pretty sure United is 787 territory

@AA-tz2bm

3 жыл бұрын

Literally all variants

@RM-xt6kk

3 жыл бұрын

​@@rel6438 among us carriers... there is another american airlinesthat have the a350 on order

The easy way for me to remember it is that the a350 replaces the a340 models, which competed with the 777ERs.

@maxosiatynski9987

4 ай бұрын

I thought the a330 originally competed with the 767?

@priyam352

4 ай бұрын

@@maxosiatynski9987 yes and the 767 got replaced by the 787 sp now a330 is competing with 787

@user-kq8if3ud5e

3 ай бұрын

When the 787 was first announced there was no model number. It was written up as a B330 by many due to the obvious size similarities. This video is trying to make people realise that the upgraded A330 and the B787 are aimed at the same market.

@user-kq8if3ud5e

3 ай бұрын

​@@maxosiatynski9987The B787 was released to compete with the A330 which had been in production for several years.

@davidlisowski5245

3 ай бұрын

@@maxosiatynski9987 a330-200 competed with the 767-300 and the a330-300 matched up with the 777-200. The a340 variants competed with 777-ER models.

A350 vs 777 A330Neo vs 787 It's not that hard

@RossTheLoss

3 жыл бұрын

No

@johnhenry6762

3 жыл бұрын

Go back to the early 2000's so you'll know how the A350 came to be a competitor to the then brand new B787 on the scene at the time. "Cody" doesn't seem to mention that detail in his presentation. The A350 grew in size in time to drift into 777 territory to what people think about competing types from Boeing and AIRBUS. ORIGINALLY: 787 vs A350-800. Then the scene changed with the A350-900 and the A350-1000 even though the A350-900 was going against the B787-9 for a time until "XWB" titles started appearing with stretches of the A350 series. This column is meant for "Warp's" statement above. I meant to add: the A330 series started competing with B777s when Boeing got cleared to operate under ETOPS and in turn AIRBUS's A340s went bye and better versions of the A330 came into play against the 777 series of aircraft. A330s vs B777s. A350s vs B787s.

@GeorgeBot7

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnhenry6762 He literally did mention this in the video. DId you just not watch from 1:45?

@johnhenry6762

3 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgeBot7 Which video- first or the second one? In your reply tell me you heard the "A350-800 " mentioned. The first or second video?!

@747simmer4

3 жыл бұрын

John Henry he didnt but he did say what you said about them being originally meant to compete against each other

Anybody gonna admit that the 787 “Dreams Take Flight” livery is like, one of the most hottest liveries?

@cameronstone4323

3 жыл бұрын

Well yeah...it only existed for one airshow then was repainted and delivered to Biman Bangladesh in their standard livery

@fishyswirlgaming5741

3 жыл бұрын

yeah

@GomezBro

3 жыл бұрын

What the heck is a livery

@harunabhna6028

3 жыл бұрын

No

@wil8115

3 жыл бұрын

@@GomezBro this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o2R9mc6kpZCnfcY.html

Both of them looks beautiful in their own way.

@auggith

3 жыл бұрын

I think the 787 is more beautiful than the a350. Those smooth curves that just flow together are incredible

@khaledbhr.x4628

3 жыл бұрын

Mateo Botha yessss

@nid4u

3 жыл бұрын

That's what my ex said comparing me to her current bf

@auggith

3 жыл бұрын

Nidhin Reji that hurts. Mine is probably saying that to his new BF about me😞

@thetransponder7186

3 жыл бұрын

Yall will hate me it's just the a350 looks better. The wings look cooler and what other airliner wears a sweet pair of shades.

Actually, Coby that was very informative. And yes, I was one of those who assumed the A350 and 787 we're direct competitors. I have now changed that view. On looks alone the A350 get my vote but to be fair, I've not flown either, so I'm not exactly in a position to judge. Thanks for the video.

@SierraDelta-

3 жыл бұрын

inspector morse the seats depend on the airline

@poggoslayer_015

3 жыл бұрын

@inspector morse do you know that different airlines have different comfort, some airlines just slap highly uncomfortable seats on their plane and call it business class while others focus in the comfort of their passengers. Tbh i prefer the 787

@ant2312

3 жыл бұрын

@@SierraDelta- nearly all airlines kit out 787 economy as a 3-3-3 when it was designed as a 2-3-2 so you can shut up

@SierraDelta-

3 жыл бұрын

Ant as I said before the comfort depends on the airline, not Boeing ad what’s the need to be rude?

@SierraDelta-

3 жыл бұрын

Ant the First guy said “the seats are better in the a350” so I was simply just letting him now that it’s not boeing that controls the comfort but the airline, so you cant base your review on the plane of off comfort cause the comfort is dependable on the type of airline not the plane, so now you look stupid

As someone who flew on both the a350 and b787, I would say that I prefer the a350. It is much quieter than the b787 and the seats are more comfortable for passengers in economy. As passengers, the a350 is unarguably better. If we were to compare both aircrafts specs, then that wouldn't be fair because they were both made for different purposes (as you said).

@DRthistle

Жыл бұрын

I agree completely on the passenger experience.

@johnconnor4953

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly.

I agree, and looking at the A350's seating capacity and the triple bogie landing gears, which is on the 777, it's obvious that the A350 is a modern competitor of the current variant of the 777 and the future variant, which has been delayed. I would say that the Boeing 787, which was originally designed to replace Boeing's 767, is a direct competitor of Airbus' A330.

@owenpatal

2 жыл бұрын

That’s right! And Airbus responded to the 787 with their A330neo just to quite match its efficiency 😊

thank you ive been trying to tell people this for ages lol

@TheRtHonPMSirLDOBSON

3 жыл бұрын

Not the only one lol

@SL-vg6lv

3 жыл бұрын

Same dude

@atreyu6976

3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@Utd_YT

3 жыл бұрын

Same.

@TurtleRailTSR

3 жыл бұрын

Aviation6 Caught cha

I hope this satisfies those less-informed. I loved my flights on AirCanada’s 787, and would indeed love a trip on an A350 too. Published customer reviews seem to give the nod to the A350 as far as “comfort and customer experience”. Like you, I await the opportunity.

@brandonking1737

3 жыл бұрын

I've flown to Vancouver-Taipei roundtrip twice, once on an Air Canada 787, and once on a China Airlines A350 (same flight, too, Vancouver to Taipei). I would have to say I liked the A350 better for the most part, although it may be just me liking the airline better. However, I much prefer the windows on the 787, they are much larger and I like the dimming that still lets you kind of see out of them.

@ant2312

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonking1737 the still being able to see out of the dimmed windows is exactly what i dont like about them, prefer blinds

@dufonrafal

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, with almost everybody going 9 abreast on the 787, passenger confort took a huge hit in economy.

I just flew on the A350 from Bengaluru to Paris. I have flown on the 787 a lot before. There is no comparison. The 787 is a wonderful flight, but the A350 is a game changer. It was the most comfortable flight I have ever taken. It is quite literally the rolls royce of the skies.

@NidgeOSullivan

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a few trip reports on the a350 and my God it's like a helium balloon it just glides as if there was nothing there, landing even more incredible, turbulence, what's that??

@bruceketcheson4877

Жыл бұрын

I would say that about the a380, nothing like it

@rjharikumar6555

Жыл бұрын

Eh, the 787 is a game changer in its own right too, considering how it's allowed airlines to operate previously thin routes profitably.

When I first flew on the Dreamliner, I was surprised at how ‘small’ the cabin was (in terms of seating capacity). It immediately became clear that it wasn’t an A330 competitor and in turn wasn’t an A350 competitor. Great video. Thanks for clarifying the matter.

Thank you! I’ve spent years trying to convince my avgeek friends of this, but I was always alone in the argument. Now that I’ve got a KZread channel on my side it will be much easier 😎 P.S. to answer your question at the end, the A350 is my favourite plane overall so I’ll have to go with that one!

@CathAir2906

3 жыл бұрын

same here

A330neo vs 787 A350 vs 777X Just compare their specifications..

@ambergris5705

3 жыл бұрын

It's exactly that.

@sulil1938

3 жыл бұрын

A350 vs 777??

@chounphounsanoy291

3 жыл бұрын

A350 vs 777

@edricklawrenceong7776

3 жыл бұрын

@@chounphounsanoy291 The 777-X would pretty much slide the 777 series out of the A350s target market though. It's designed to accommodate 426 in a 2-class configuration, those are pretty much 747 numbers, the largest A350, by comparison, the A350-1000, is only optimized for 369 passengers, heck, even the much smaller 777-8 beats the A350-1000 in terms of capacity at 384 passengers. The A350 is a good competitor for the 777-Classic but it's simply too small to compete with the 777-X.

@sorin_ea6

3 жыл бұрын

Trekkie_ _0802 the A350 is a good aircraft to fill the gap between the Dreamliner and A330, and the 777X

I really like the way you dissect these planes. Unlike the majority of videos on KZread, yours are very informative and a pleasure to watch. Thank you and keep up the good work! 👍👍

Hope this video knocks some sense into them. I've flown on the B777-300 ER, A350-900, and the B787-9.... They're all beautiful. What matters most is the airline service. Fly on a shitty airline, and the plane types wouldn't matter.

@Speedster___

3 жыл бұрын

Cough PIA cough

@Editorwithchai

2 жыл бұрын

@@Speedster___ sadly yes, PIA has gone from +stronk to -stronk :(

Finally, someone agrees!!

@holdensv2000

3 жыл бұрын

Please go Airbus the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later

@holdensv2000

3 жыл бұрын

@@77l96 no I am just a concerned citizen trying to put people on their guard when they choose to fly for vacation or any other thing Boeing has lost their way and they just do a thing about safety when building an aircraft so the next Airplane company is Airbus with a better reputation and safety record it is the way to go and come back alive

@markchang8330

2 жыл бұрын

@@holdensv2000 lol really? Airbus also has a lots of crash records. Boeing seems dangerous only because they sell more aeroplanes. And also, an aeroplane which is younger doesn't mean it is "better". I like your comment, it is really funny, like a airbus promoter and propaganda. Aviation lover should love both Airbus and Boeing because they are really similiar nowadays.

@markchang8330

2 жыл бұрын

@@holdensv2000 Also, tell you something you might refuse to listen. If Boeing break through all the issues and troubles they have right now, they gonna win this competition. You know what? Objectively, Boeing has better technology and technical ability and reserve than Airbus.

@holdensv2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@markchang8330 I don't know where you get that info from Boeing is in a deep hole with no way to get out and most Airlines are moving away from them they just can't be trusted no the FAA so it is the EASA and Airbus is the only way to go even China that has the biggest Airlines in the world won't want Boeing in there country so please stick a fork in it if people don't want you you are lost

Ok i will let you explain

Very well done mate! A350 is the winner for me. However it also depends on how many seats an airline craps into the aircraft :D

@holdensv2000

3 жыл бұрын

Good choice man a winner is safety and Technolgy 10 year better

@aseem7w9

3 жыл бұрын

@@holdensv2000 lol i can hear your happy european noises

@Amrdau

3 жыл бұрын

A350 vs 777?

@aseem7w9

3 жыл бұрын

@@Amrdau A350 comes nowhere close to 9 abreast 777. But unfortunately that's not very common.

@measin109

3 жыл бұрын

A350 is a bit cooler than the 787

This is a terrific explanation, thank you! I see them both side-by-side in LHR all the time but never realized the seating differences.

Finally someone got it right lol.

Very informative. But what it misses is the fact that range now takes priority over the number of seats. I’m a aviation strategy consultant myself and I’ve built plenty business plans / fleet plans for airline customers. And sorry to inform you, but for most of the airlines, the 787 and the A350 are the two options they have to select from for their long term strategy and planning. Large capacity aircraft are going out of fashion (need) for airline consumers, as evident by the fall of A380 and the 777s. As the concept of “thick routes” (point to point) is taking over, the “hub and spoke” model is going out of trend. Airlines want more and more point to point connectivity rather than huge number of seats to a hub airport and then smaller aircraft ops from there. Hence, it eventually boils down to, 1)Ownership cost, 2)yearly maintenance expense and 3)ability to make upto 75%+ PLF on most potentially available routes. So one can choose to ignore these aspects, but it is the reality and airlines are not picking between a 777/777x and A350, but rather between a 787 and A350.

I love your channel! This is the BEST video explaining the difference between the two. Lots of so-called "aviation fans" who have no idea what they're talking about! Thank you!

finally someone agreeing. you cant compare a 300 seater plane with a 200 seaters

@texxon3355

3 жыл бұрын

Are we talking about the smallest version of the a350 or the longest version?

@frutdafruit

Жыл бұрын

@@texxon3355 both A350 variants seat above 300 on average

THANK YOU!!! This shows the difference between just common aviation enthusiast, and the people who truly understand the aviation industry, market trends, and capability differences. Also, I prefer the 787 when it comes to looks, size, and usefulness to airlines, but I have not flown on the A350 yet, so I could not truly say which one I like better.

Great story to tell - I didn't know the size differences. The A350 BandAid was well criticized - they went onto design a better plane. Pity that Boeing didn't take the same medecine with their B737 Max.

@fear-is-a-token

3 ай бұрын

Boeing truly has to learn a thing or two from the Airbus A330 was first flown in 1994 and was a deeply modified A300 from the 1974 - still when they tried to modify it once more and called it a new plane, everybody thought it was a bad idea. And it was just in 2004. 30 years of basic construction being there and everyone went full boooo. Meanwhile Boeing modifying it's 1968 737 (that heavily resembles the 1958 707 in many features) for the fourth time in mid-2010s (almost 60 year old "bones") - and everybody seems to like the Max (which I personally hate and won't fly if only not in a desperate need). And then people be like "why does the max have so much problems?". It's like... bruh. You can't just stretch a 28.6 meters long plane up to 43.8 meters and pretend nothing gonna go wrong

This needed to be said on a large platform so thank you

I agree with the non-comparison. Haven’t tuned in for a while, glad I did today. And you’re rockin’ that beard 👍🏻😉

If I were a pilot, I would fly the 787>A350 because since it operates thinner routes, you get to fly to so many more exotic destinations than if you were flying an aircraft that flies more to the larger hubs and airports.

@strain121

2 жыл бұрын

No, you won't. Pilot only gets pay when plane is moving. Bigger plane = longer haul = work less shift.

@aspiringcaptain

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it doesn’t work like that, sorry. The A350 (Ethiopian I believe) flies their A350’s to Zanzibar, Kilimanjaro, Cape Town, Casablanca, Port Louis, Victoria, and Pointe Noire (I think) depending on the time of the year when passengers are most frequent. So no, you don’t get to go to more exotic places if you fly 787 sadly.

@xsentinel3044

Жыл бұрын

@@aspiringcaptain TUI 787s fly to more…TUI 787s fly to whole Caribbean and same with some Virgin Atlantic 787-9s

Flown on both, like both :) Comfy, modern, relaxing long haul cabin in both. You definitely feel a marked difference compared to the old guard on the same routes. From the cabin it’s pretty clear that the A350 is bigger, I agree with the remarks that it’s more reminiscent of the largeness of a triple 7 cabin and not a Dreamliner. The Dreamliner has always felt very spacious and modern but 767-like in overall size from cabin perspective.

Very clear explanation! Thank you, Coby.

Best youtuber, I always love when you upload

@cobyexplanes

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Very happy to see this explained! I think you’re right, people saw both aircraft types were made from composite materials so made the assumption they’re the same class - but they forget that the 787 replaced the 767 to compete with the very popular A330, and the A350 replaced the 340 to better compete with the 777. Will be interesting to see how the 777x competes with the A350 once the global crisis has tapered off and we can see true results.

Different horses, different courses. 🐎🐎🐎

I love this. Your videos are always informative and on point! Keep up the good work. With❤ from Nigeria 🇳🇬

Thank you Coby for sharing that information and data. It never ceases to amze me how many folks were fixated on the concept of 787s vs A350s...outside of technologies, there's no comparison.

@frutdafruit

Жыл бұрын

besides, after those 2 planes, both manufacturers have placed the same tech on other aircraft types.

I love both of them

Hello Coby: I have had the opportunity to fly both planes and I really loved them both. However, the A350 is very impressive with its interior design and it seems it feels more modern and spacious. I flew it from Frankfort to Shanghai right after the outbreak of the pandemic back in 2020 and it was a very nice flight.

Exactly. That's why your channel caught my attention over some other enthusiastic but less accurate channels. Good insights.

@cobyexplanes

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Finally a video that makes sense! I love the basis of comparisons made.

Thanks for the explanation. I think they are both great. The A350 seems to have a more expansive digitization programme.

Coby! Thanks for debunking this myth. I am now wiser for it! As usual, awesome video and you rock!

Great video! Flew longhaul on a 3 month old B789 and a 2 month old A359 on the same day, almost 3 years ago now. I preferred the latter because it was quieter and more spacious. (And yes, at the time I thought they were direct competitors.)

I used to be a Boeing/787 fanboy just because I was American and that was the thing to do, but have now completely swapped to Airbus as I started to learn more about Airbus systems, cockpit design, efficiency, manufacturing etc. So now I would side with the A350 for sure. I wonder how many other Boeing fans out there haven’t really ventured into Airbus that much and just support them because they are American.

@nguyenhoangan-matt

2 жыл бұрын

I used to be a Boeing fan also but I'm now all over Airbus.

I worked for the first UK airline to order the 787 "the Dreamliner", to replace all their old 767s. It was really exciting, we got to go in the cabin mockups etc at the Farnborough airshow, it looked great,(& BTW we also got to see the A380 cabin mockup - & the Airbus test pilots did a stunning A360/A380 crossover in front of the entire crowd, as if they were fighter jets!) .... but..... the 787 delivery process was embarrassingly painful. The 1st aircraft were actually delivered YEARS late. So late that by the time they were actually delivered I'd actually left the company, so the first time I flew on one, was as a full fare paying passenger going on holiday. I was SO disappointed! It was rubbish. The much vaunted environment was just a gimmick, everything felt plasticky & flimsy. The plane creaked, rattled & squeaked all the time - the old 767s never did that. I can't compare to a A350 as I have never been on one, but my opinion of the 787 is NOT good.

I was a bit shocked when I saw this video but it’s good to know that the A350 has a bit more room to grow in sales.

Hi Colby That's another excellently produced video - very well researched and presented! It takes a more knowledgeable type to take on well established "truths" and turn them on their head Well done! Brian

Nice breakdown. I love them both. No 🔥 storm here my dude. Keep up the good work.

Both are great in their own class. Just like I love camry, accord, mazda6 each are unique in their own way.

I prefer the 787!

Very interesting, great job explaining all of this. I never knew to compare them in this way.

THANK YOU. I have no idea why this is such a firm belief in the community.

Having flown both I think the 787 is the more beautiful looking aircraft but the A350 has a clearly better cabin in terms of passenger comfort.

@w8stral

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, anyone talking comfort is an idiot, especially on long haul(Is no such thing as comfort on long haul). NO one gives a damn other than those with gobs of money for maybe a layflat bed. The only thing anyone cares about is $$$/ticket for the masses in the cattle section.

@mingming9604

3 жыл бұрын

you gotta wait and fly 777-x to make the final decision since 787 doesn't compete with a350.... lol

@odez180

3 жыл бұрын

For the most part the airline determines cabin comfort not the plane manufacturer

@idpro83

3 жыл бұрын

@@odez180 I flew the 787 and the A350 on one day with only a 50 minutes stopover (I wouldn't even call it stopover it was getting of an airplane and rushing to the next). Both flights with Qatar. The A350 was more spacious and had a significantly lower noise level. The noise level is not determined by the airline its the aircraft itself that has a quieter cabin.

@odez180

3 жыл бұрын

idpro83 it’s up to the airline to configure the interior for how much space each passenger gets but the noise level is a valid point. Not to many people consider that when it comes to comfort.

Well done sir and I learned something I did not know. From the front I've always thought they look similar with the way their cockpit windows are laid out and it is sometimes hard to tell the difference until you look at the winglets. Before Covid slowed things down Lufthansa's flights out of Munich into KCLT, my home airport had changed from an A346 in the summer or A333 in the winter to an A359 and it was a good looking aircraft. When they started flying into here many years ago they used a B744 which was a treat for me. New subscriber here so keep up the good work.

Well-explained! Bravo 👏

Vietnam Airlines ❤️❤️❤️ (as I’m a Vietnamese 😄😄😄) .btw your video is a really good one. This is the first video of yours which I watched but I feel it is so informative and reliable. The clips and images are also great and practical which make your words weigh much more significant... #lovefromvietnam

Another proof regarding what you said is what Boeing themselves are mentioning! They only mention the A350 as the direct competitor to their 777x, but not to their Dreamliner! Regarding the preferences, I haven't flown any of them, but if I have the luxury to choose which one to fly, I am going to go with the A350, because I simply trust Airbus products over Boeing.

@KAVX686

3 жыл бұрын

Is that because the 737 MAX?

@akshaygowrishankar7440

3 жыл бұрын

@@KAVX686 that's a competitor for the A320neo class, nowhere near the conversation of the 777x or 787 or A350.

@sagarshroff9624

3 жыл бұрын

@@akshaygowrishankar7440 he means Boeing is losing its trust because of the 737 max incident.

@akshaygowrishankar7440

3 жыл бұрын

@@sagarshroff9624 okay, I thought you were asking about the first bit

@holdensv2000

3 жыл бұрын

you make good sense man stay alive when flying to your destination the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later Airbus is building around safety and not short cuts for profit over safety so arrive alive

Very detailed and logical explanation! I personally haven't experienced the A350. My only 787 experience was with Singapore Airlines which operated the dash 10 type. The plane was modern, comfortable and made the flight more than just a trip. The flight was an enjoyment. After the pandemic I'd like to try the 787s operated by ANA

Thanks for the great video. The Qatar Air example with the list of destinations 787/A350 is deployed, was quite helpful to see the point.

I loved my flight on an ETIHAD 787-9 BUT I WISH TO FLY ON A A350 TOO

Great video! I'd love to see more videos with similar comparisons. Maybe 737 variants vs. a320/a321......love math when someone else is doing the work! :D

@nicholasmackenzie-rowe68

3 жыл бұрын

Take the A321 out of the equation. It is a mid range aircraft. The 737 is a dead duck. Boeing overeached rather than build a new aircraft. Should have listened to the engineers not the bean counters before the 800, never mind the max. The 737 is an early 60's design, way beyond its lifespan .

When you look at the facts and factors, he is right. Great job Coby!

I wasn't the only one who was up in the air about whether these planes were competitors or not. Thank you for the great explanation.

what I will say seeing as I've flown on both - Eitihad 787, Finnair and Qatar A350 is that the A350 is more comfortable because XTRA WIDE BODY. 787's were designed as a 2-3-2 but nearly every airline fits them out as a 3-3-3 thus meaning a 17 inch seat width as opposed to the 3-3-3 on the A350 XTRA WIDE BODY which has 18 to 18.5 inch seat width in economy. Thats how I know when people saying they prefer the 787 are probably Americans who have never flown on either and just lying and just making stuff up to defend Boeing

@w8stral

3 жыл бұрын

No, the 787's were not designed as 2-3-2. That was the 767 a much narrower airplane. 787 is same width as the a330, good for 8 wide. 2-4-2 seating. A350 is wider good for 3-3-3 seating, but not quite as wide as 777.

Cody really out here explaining

@poggoslayer_015

3 жыл бұрын

fr!

@ryan_n05

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean *ex-planing*? lol

@airbus_a320neo

3 жыл бұрын

*Coby

awesome topic and video!

I just flew from London to phx in a a350 and I was really impressed. Best plane I’ve been in to date!

A350 just looks amazing 🙈😎

@wyxir4191

3 жыл бұрын

A350>787

@nathd1748

3 жыл бұрын

@Minsung Kim dream on matey

@ndlben7129

3 жыл бұрын

@Radif Mdrrr! You are a frustred Airbus Fanboy 😁😂

@ellyligth

3 жыл бұрын

@@ndlben7129 airbus forever, is best. But i'd like fly in the 787-10

@crownedaxis8569

2 жыл бұрын

@@ellyligth ive flown on a 787 and an a350 the a350 was so damn quiet compared to how loud the 787 is

Range is another key difference to be mentioned.

Very well explained, thank you.

Thank you, I’ve seen a lot of channels making videos on 787vsa350. I’ve been trying to tell them for a long time that the a350 competes with the b777 and not the 787. More people need to see this video.

Team 787 all day, you can’t beat that wing flex 😍

@notbillnye8536

3 жыл бұрын

@@curtiswhyte3297 lol you're rediculous if you think wing flex looks rediculous

@tydjayowen6122

3 жыл бұрын

@@notbillnye8536 And your even more ridiculous if you judge someone else's taste

@ranggafahmi8479

3 жыл бұрын

Its not wing flex its raked

@gregsmith3410

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree... look at a350 head on..a straight wing with a twist on the end..not exactly awe inspiring.. can't beat graceful curved of that 787 wing!!

@pentameteriamb6196

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, the 787 wing flex is awesome and the whole plane just looks better but remember that they are not competitors...

I've flown both and for the passenger it really depends on the operator. They are both much nicer to fly in than the 777 or A330

@accesscrimea

Жыл бұрын

In what way are they nicer to fly in than the 777?

@sbeve7445

5 ай бұрын

@@accesscrimea The engines are quieter and the ride is less bumpy

A350s are wider and offers the same 3x3x3 seat config. Been flown in both I can say the XWB is roomier, seats are wider and engines is quieter. Can't say the same about japanese carriers as they use a different config for 787s (2x4x2) and nobody can deny this is the proper seat arrangement for the Boeing aircraft. I think both are beautiful and fulfill their purpouse over the average.

Flown on both. They're both great airplanes!

So all this time, I have been lied to? *How many other lies have I been told by the council?*

@adamhlali8106

3 жыл бұрын

Son. I hate to break it to you. You are adopted.

@yashshah5446

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamhlali8106 😂😂😂😂

Flown on both like both as for which to prefer if flying economy no question A350 premium or business probably would pick the 787 it feels more high tech and in those class seating the comfort level is the same. the A350 "Feels" like a a330 with an updated interior where the 787 feels like a new plane with the big windows and high tech (questionable value though) dimming windows.

@shi01

3 жыл бұрын

I heard and read from a various people now that if you fly regularly with the 787, you start to hate the dimming windows. Apparently these things are not getting dark enough to really keep the sunlight out at cruise altitude which can get really annoying.

@royeb63

3 жыл бұрын

@@shi01 You're so right. I have flown on the 787 several times, and I have developed a hate for those windows. While they block out most of the light, they radiate heat like an oven. Also, you can't just open them a little to take a look outside or take a picture. You have to clear the entire window and getting the sun right in your eyes. I really don't understand why they had to change something that wasn't broken in the first place? I can see that from a crew perspective it's just easier to press a button to open all the windows before landing, and then lock it, but from a passenger viewpoint I think it was a terrible idea to replace the regular blinds. Finally, haven't been on the 350 yet so I'll reserve my judgment on that.

@jmoratti

3 жыл бұрын

shi01 I have flown multiple times I dont hate the windows but the usefulness is not great and they are not that good but still pretty cool .

Thanks Dr. Cooper. 787 and A350 is the same as the blonde/brunette conundrum. It could be argued until the end of time and never establish a clear winner. I did learn a lot today. Thanks!

I've just recently flown an 8 hour flight in economy on the A350-900 and was very impressed. The noise reduction in the cabin, vibration was non-existing, air filtration in the cabin, mood lighting, size of windows, etc. all of which stood out. I can't say that it's a better plane than the Dreamliner since I haven't flown on the Dreamliner, but I must say, the A350 is truly an impressive plane.

“... recently retired their entire triple seven (777) fleet” - 4:53 If I remember correctly Delta cancel “their” (order was made by Northwest Airlines, before the merger) order for 787s for A350s as well as replaced their 747-400s/747-451s (again Northwest Airlines, before the merger) with A350s. Assuming I remember correctly, does anyone have any theories as to why?

@jefflewis4

3 жыл бұрын

It was the delayed delivery of the 787. Had Delta gotten the 787 by 2010 they likely would have taken delivery. But the delay allowed them to defer their purchase decision. Delta ordered 25 A330neos a few years afterwards in addition to the A350's. By 2016 when the cancel decision was made Delta just didn't need the 787.

@w8stral

3 жыл бұрын

Delta has bought Airbus exclusively for the last 2 decades. They still fly some old Boeing/McDonald Douglas planes, but most have been retired.

@holdensv2000

3 жыл бұрын

Because the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later

@ScottRothsroth0616

3 жыл бұрын

jefflewis4 Thank you.

@gelinrefira

3 жыл бұрын

Makes a lot of sense. The era of 4 engines jet is ending anyway. There are almost no routes that will demand a 500 passenger jet that can be profitably operated. They have to retire their 747s, and if they are also retiring their old 777s. They really need to fill the gap for the large jetliners, and it will be better to just replace them all with the same new jet that can fulfill all the roles they need and really bank on the economies of scale.

If given the option, I'd 100% take retraining for the 787. It's such a beautiful bird, not to mention the bleedless packs and better pilot comfort, it's all around just a much prettier cockpit, quieter too.

@ACPilot

3 жыл бұрын

I love the 787 and would be flying it for our airline, if it wasn’t for the longer trips. I prefer shorthaul routes, unfortunately our 787 do not fly these 🤨 To me the A350 cockpit is ugly, and the window design looks like you’re in the Spaceshuttle.

I'm always having this discussion with friends and random people and they don't trust me.🤦🏽‍♂️Thanks for this video.

Thanks Coby. Kindest regards from Playa del Carmen México. 🙌

I’ve flown on the 787 four times and the A350 just once and I personally preferred the A350 experience

@ssd3748

3 жыл бұрын

It just depends on the airline

@benjaminmenken5693

2 жыл бұрын

I don't like Airbus cockpits

787 but i do love the a350 too

I flew the A350 to Singapore, then flew the 787 on the same route...then scheduled my next flight on the 787. It is currently my favorite plane for comfort, seating configuration (United economy), etc.

I flew from London to Kuala Lumpur last year; 787 to Doha, then got a pleasent suprise when finding out Qatar changed the craft from a 777 to an A350 from Doha to KL.. Considering we were quite tired and in Economy.. We really felt comfortable.. Ambient lighting, seat configuration. Air conditioning systems made the 8 hour journey Smooth.. It also helps that both 787 and A350 can cruise at 41'000ft don't recall there being any significant Turbulence at all.

I’ve only flown the A350 once, but every time I’ve flown in the 787 I’ve been more comfortable than I was in the A350. This was mainly because they were less crowded, which makes sense after watching the video. In terms of looks they’re both really beautiful planes. Also, the diagram at 5:15 blows my mind; not at all how I expected comparisons of these planes to turn out.

@finanzam1

4 ай бұрын

Depends on the Airline not the plane. I find the a350 a lot smoother and quiter to fly.

At 5:54, there's an error in the calculations shown. 68.4 and 266.5 for their respective A350 types has been interchanged.

Great video Coby!

i like the 787 more, but mostly because i like the design more and i’m also a boeing fan

The A350 is a stunning airplane to my eyes, especially if dressed with the elegant Lufthansa livery

@makarylli1

Жыл бұрын

Finnair

@TheGecko213

Жыл бұрын

"elegant" Lufthansa 🤔

Just compare the MTOW: the difference is huge.

Great vid brother! Thanks

Another thing that Coby missed but is also necessary in this thinking is the philosophy behind the design of these planes. Boeing designed the 787 to test the "point to point" concept of connecting routes which was a result of increased fuel prices and decreased passenger numbers after 9/11. Until this time, the duopoly giants believed in the "hub snd spoke" concept of transport: feed psssengers and cargo into a large airport, and then connect these with large planes like the 747, A380, 777, and A330/40. Also most of the 787 technologies were taken from that scrapped Boeing Supersonic project, especially the use of composites. The current A350's philosophy meanwhile, has already been discussed. It was a plane lobbied by carriers to be the next generation of long-haul that gave the benefits of being used in both P2P and H&S setups. As with the question, I can't give a definitive answer as I've only ridden on A380 and 777-300ER. I almost rode an A350, but the connecting flight to that plane was cancelled. In its place, I rode an A321 and then an A380. But I love looking at both 787 and A350! Hopefully when flying can be safely done again I'd like to do it with either these planes.

787 = A330neo 777X = A350

@annoyingguyoninternet1631

3 жыл бұрын

@@77l96 the distance of seat number between 787 and A350 is much larger than 777X and A350 plus A350 is A350-2000 capable

787 forever

Awesome vid Coby. Always love flying in the 787, but I haven't flown in the A350...yet. Will have to check it out.

Great analysis.👍🏼

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