Basically, the timeline was terminated. Hasta La Vista, baby

@marcinpilarski2412

6 жыл бұрын

Kickor Sidumain Timeline: I'll be back

@hafizfurqan786

5 жыл бұрын

hahahahahahaha

@hafizfurqan786

5 жыл бұрын

I'm from Pakistan please clear my confusion. I cant understand at the end of terminator genisys.... everything has changed. No judgement day exit, sara live with kyle at the age of 20 in 2017 instead of 1984 whereas, there is also kid kyle exist. after death of Robo John Cornnor what the hell is going on. now whats the reality of John Connor. OMG Its time to suicide now.

@deniziscool

5 жыл бұрын

Rana HM Furqan 😂

@2KWIK4U

5 жыл бұрын

Kickor Sidumain but if it’s been erased then why is terminator dark fate is set after 2

For all of you that got confused, just imagine that the series ended in T2, the end

@StonesMalone

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine?

@blaccoalgaming

4 жыл бұрын

Can you help me figure out how Kyle Reese was a kid when he met John connor in Terminator Genisys and why Reese had a photo of Sarah Connor

@postmasterpez

4 жыл бұрын

Well if everything ended good in T2 why dose Johon Connor send back his pall to have sex with his mum to produce himself. I mean, it is not a dystopic world to save anymore.

@bornagamer8289

4 жыл бұрын

Yes until November 1st 2019

@commander7690

4 жыл бұрын

Nah, the series will end when James Cameron is done with Terminator 3, Dark Fate, ignoring every movie that is not made by James Cameron.

John teaches Kyle how to fight in turn Kyle teaches Sarah how to fight which in turn Sarah teaches John how to fight...which John teaches Kyle how to fight...who later teaches Sarah how to fight...its a viscious cycle

@MuzgontarAco

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas Zulli that cycle has been broken.. in fact John Connor as we know it no longer exists.. hell his own father can teach him to fight now.. or whatever this movie comes up with..

@JDemen82

8 жыл бұрын

But can they see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

@NarwahlGaming

6 жыл бұрын

John was also taught by Columbian/Mexican Drug Lords after he and Sarah fled South after T1.

@husrav8517

6 жыл бұрын

paradox

@dawnbetancourt3852

5 жыл бұрын

Basically it's the bootstrap paradox

Why all this hate towards Terminator Salvation? I think it was fantastic. It had the best post apocalyptic settings, great effects, it introduced the concept of infiltration units, it showed how John Connor got his face scars, it was different no time travel no alternate timelines, it stayed loyal to the story and so on. Go watch it again, you'll see !

@AMMB

8 жыл бұрын

I love it

@phobos6082

8 жыл бұрын

A. M.M.B. Yeah!

@tnbn55

8 жыл бұрын

+Phobos Ripped off Casshan: Robot Hunter Anime. Both have a guy who was once human, who is now machine, and fights against other machines. Human resistance gets orders from superiors who traveled around in a submarine. The resistance in both receive a faked device to disable the killer robots.

@phobos6082

8 жыл бұрын

+TN BN So what? that's only your imagination trying really hard to link both of them! an anime? really? that's for kids! we're talking about the Terminator here!

@tnbn55

8 жыл бұрын

***** The cartoon had violence and death. They watched it no doubt.

The reason why Skynet becomes Genisys in the new timeline is because Cyberdine no longer gets the the T-800's arm and processing chip from the "bad" T-800. It is actually the T-3000 that goes back in time (sometime before 2017) to help Dyson create Skynet in the form of Genisys.

@Darjaboo

6 жыл бұрын

Was just about to make that same comment.

@aaronscott4984

6 жыл бұрын

Yea people don't realize that the original T800 is in fact the father of Skynet the way Reese is to Conner. Cause Skynet did in fact send the T800 and T1000 back at same cause it knew first would fail but it needed it to exist. There is concept art for a deleted scene in T2 that confirms that. It shows them send Reese back than John finds the T800 and one of his soilder's say's that skynet also sent back a prototype terminator to 95

@KidJames81

6 жыл бұрын

Then why is Miles Dyson alive?

@minh3264

5 жыл бұрын

Skynet was still created without the T-800's arm and CPU. Those things only made Skynet more advanced but humanity will one day still create skynet. Read Cameron's explanation, crackpot.

@srijanverma9500

5 жыл бұрын

in 2015 as its said t-3000 arrived

The real theory is that Kyle Reese was NEVER John Connor's father. When he became his dad, that's when an alternate timeline was created.

@Sharkbyte1000

5 жыл бұрын

its true. his original father was probably one of the telescope punks. The terminator alters timelines way more than Kyle Reese does. He killed a shit ton of cops who could have had kids who originally were supposed to fight in the original future war. Plus randoms at the dance club. But nobody ever thinks of that.

@Michael-ij6kg

5 жыл бұрын

What about the alternate targets of the original t1000? That changes things

@vencislavgunev293

5 жыл бұрын

If originally Kyle was not John Connor's father, so originally John was not in the original timeline.

@sayansaha155

2 жыл бұрын

Or better yet, we have never seen the original timeline, and all this time we were supporting discount John Connor.

@alexisguerrero7551

Жыл бұрын

@@vencislavgunev293 there was a john corner just one genetically different from the altered time line.

At least X-men did it in a much less complicated way

Watched this 100 times Still confused

@geraltofrivia9167

6 жыл бұрын

Watch once... Mind blown

@jingsuantan2304

6 жыл бұрын

technically explain there is the three different timeline, the Genisys latest movie was reset all the history due to someone sent T800 old Arnold to 1973

@oasis3724

5 жыл бұрын

You have to much time on ur hands

@ibrokemyownheart4953

4 жыл бұрын

Try the zombies storyline.

@soul2squeezy439

4 жыл бұрын

Just watch Terminator 1 & 2 and forget the rest. Lol

Why am I always mind-blown whenever somebody talks about timelines and paradoxes?

@terryautry6493

8 жыл бұрын

+Ernest Chui™ (ernestcmh) terminator is just weird lol. like i thought John had a different father before any terminator was ever sent back in time. and then kyle is sent back to 84 and he becomes the new father of john, but i really think that Kyle was always going to be his father no matter what.

@Distopia79

8 жыл бұрын

+DGK201 Sadly your the only one showing your ignorance and incompetency to understand the situation. If +Dante Sparda came to his theory by himself with no prior knowledge of it preexisting, then it is his theory and he can claim it as his own. The fact that the theory may or may not have existed prior to his, does not detach it from the truth unless he claims that he was the first to come to this theory.

@gengivitis7448

8 жыл бұрын

Because it is confusing as shit

I went to see "Terminator: Genisys" by myself and the theater was completely empty, I got drunk, hit a bowl a couple times and even smoked a few cigarettes. Not even employees came in, I spent the whole movie alone and got so fucked up that I don't even remember anything from the movie what so ever! lol

@jacklxv

6 жыл бұрын

what a life

@Blunt_Man

6 жыл бұрын

jacklxv What's funny is except smoking bud. I'm completely sober now...

@DUVAAL187

6 жыл бұрын

Steve Jackson u must b Edward fulong

@Blunt_Man

6 жыл бұрын

DuVaal That's awesome lol

@mickailbaledi8516

4 жыл бұрын

r/thathappened

Basically... its much easier to watch if you believe that it ended with Terminator 2 and that was it. All the other side timelines are just what ifs.

@xx_-minejonne-_xx5261

5 жыл бұрын

b

@ibrokemyownheart4953

4 жыл бұрын

My terminator ended with Genesis

@MasterBetty69

4 жыл бұрын

I BROKEMYOWNHEART genesis deletes everything, making everything pre genesis irrelevant.

@theragnarok8896

4 жыл бұрын

Ir altered

@theragnarok8896

4 жыл бұрын

@@ibrokemyownheart4953 same

So WHERE is the Terminator ride at Universal fit in?

@TheMrPeteChannel

8 жыл бұрын

A bad dream.

@abloogywoogywoo

7 жыл бұрын

Shit's still way better than Terminator 3. Although that's not saying much...

@RedSplinter36

6 жыл бұрын

Dear Lord *takes off sunglasses.

@Daily_Dose_of_Grass

4 жыл бұрын

Terminator 8

OK finally someone is gonna explain it to me, let me just get a pen and paper...

@trevino529

9 жыл бұрын

Jig G

@luminaorchis4376

6 жыл бұрын

BIMMOM Really? It ain't rocket science.

@raiha2772

6 жыл бұрын

bobhu simem no, it's quantum physics.

@Aaron-ox6cj

6 жыл бұрын

😂😂 same

@IINNVALUES

6 жыл бұрын

lumina orchis yes it is

Can't Wait to See Terminator 6 Film in 2017

@georgesumner6705

9 жыл бұрын

Justin Sumner i Like to See Both T-X from Terminator 3 Film and Marcus Wright from Terminator 4 Film in Terminator 6 Film in 2017

@bassplayer807

9 жыл бұрын

The box office so far is at like $308M, now it's up to China's box office to see if it will garner a sequel..... Fast 7 made $250M in roughly 7 days of its premier, Transformers: AOE made $310M in China as final box office...... I'm hoping Genisys can do those numbers in China: they have a high demand for movies with robots, and cyborgs.

@therealThundergod132

9 жыл бұрын

+Hassan Syed Genisys wasn't terrible wtf? The movie was amazing!

@robbo4721

8 жыл бұрын

+ironmantim33 Mad Max:Furry Road,which is the best movie ever and no more ever can contend with it's awsome epicenesss.

@du4lstrik3

8 жыл бұрын

+Pierthefrenchchicken that movie sucked dick. cars chasing cars the whole movie. yawn. BOOOO-RING.

My brain just blew up

@armanimpressions

8 жыл бұрын

+Ivan Qiu i just came

@ug_clan9293

8 жыл бұрын

mine too lolz

@toastalicious7500

6 жыл бұрын

Swiss Cheese from the shotgun

@Gallos630

5 жыл бұрын

Adaptive Silhouette it’s just 3 timeline ...

Well, now there's Terminator Dark Fate.. Make a video about that!

@charlesloftin8768

5 жыл бұрын

737 he mentions rights handed over in 2019 but it seems like last year genises was out. Mind boggling how time flys

@bluemartian9642

5 жыл бұрын

Dark fate will be a direct sequal to t2

@DarthWinterMadness

4 жыл бұрын

@@charlesloftin8768 Exactly what I thought. 😂

@MYTHIC666

4 жыл бұрын

@@bluemartian9642 but how? when the t2 timeline was erased?

@bluemartian9642

4 жыл бұрын

@@MYTHIC666 dark fate is ignoring the events of rise of the machines, salvation, and genysys.

Dude, Terminator Salvation was NOT that bad.

@crimsonking4379

9 жыл бұрын

+22steve5150 I like all the Terminator movies.

@AMMB

8 жыл бұрын

Me too

@JudgeDreddMegaCityOne

8 жыл бұрын

+22steve5150 Mcg's best?

@JudgeDreddMegaCityOne

8 жыл бұрын

+Ask IronPride & friends I like one of them.

@deethatswaveyy2209

8 жыл бұрын

+22steve5150 i enjoyed it

They've fucked it up. Should've kept Cameron involved.

Me: sees that terminator genisys comes on netflix. Me 10 minutes into the movie: WTF is going on

Great video ! Thanks so much !

"It's a very serious type of leukemia where producers don't wanna work with you" bwahahahahah

hi i have to say this but i dont blame you since the majority of people havent heard of it but... you forgot to add TERMINATOR:The Sarah Chronicles this is pretty much a tv series of the terminator it doesnt have Arnold :( but it does have some pretty bad ass stuff watch it its only around 30-50 episodes divided into 2 season and it makes alot more sense about why in the TERMINATOR:Salvation the girl friend from TERMINATOR:3 doesnt appear and also a few other things like why he looks the way he looking the the 4th movie and so on i highly recommend it for anyone who wants to get there brain twisted up 1 more thing if Skynet never sent a terminator back in time to kill Sarah Conner they wouldnt need to to send back Kyle Reese to protect Sarah there for no John Conner (Im smarter then Skynet and yet i am a car mechanic living in an apartment with my friend playing games on the computer)

@rasg3000

9 жыл бұрын

Kevin Lalach As far as i know... its not Canon ...therefore it doesn't count. Movies are in a different "universe" just like the Marvel and DC have their Cinematic universes.

@NewRockstars

9 жыл бұрын

RED DEATH Yeah, this is what we heard too.

@jakeraines8046

9 жыл бұрын

RED DEATH well if its not cannon then that means TERMINATOR:Salvation is not cannon either, considering that TERMINATOR:The Sarah Conner Chronicles came out BEFORE TERMINATOR:Salvation also like i said there are a lot of things in the TV series that explains why some thing in TERMINATOR:3 dont happen in TERMINATOR:Salvation

@dbb8321

9 жыл бұрын

RED DEATH The show was canon, but in a different timeline.

@dbb8321

9 жыл бұрын

Kevin Lalach The girlfriend from T3 does appear as his wife in Salvation, different actress but same character name.

what happened to the scared sarah connor from the first movie? answer = hollywood feminism

@mymamatouchmypeepee2014

5 жыл бұрын

🤣

@azztereris

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@skitzorikk1161

4 жыл бұрын

Confusing writing

@hyoroemonmeto6874

4 жыл бұрын

What? Sarah become strong after 1 and 2. You misgonyst just bash everything with strong female in it.

@jlondono7

4 жыл бұрын

JM Rodriguez-Luis Simp

If ur watching this 5 years later ur a legend

I think salvation gets more hate than it should, although its not really like the other terminator films it is still good in its own right. Far better than rise of the machines and genesis in my opinion. I was quite sad when I learnt they weren't continuing a trilogy of sorts with the cast of salvation, I loved the world they came up with and the style of the film reminded me of a Terminator version of Mad Max.

@kevinfromsales6842

6 жыл бұрын

Marcus Wright, Kyle Reese, BLAIR. The scene with the harvester...omg that movie had a lot of awesome shit in it.

@Ryujinn999

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly way to many people are on a dick riding train hating on salvation

Excellent Video - Thanks

Great explanation!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

thanks for the great work

The reason why I didn't like Genisys is because they just COMPLETELY disregarded Terminator 3 and 4. Say what you want about they movies, but most agree that they suck (I'm not one of them. I loved Salvation), but they are STILL CANON. YOU CAN NOT DESTROY CANON NO MATTER HOW BAD IT IS. Ignore it? Sure. But CONTRADICT it? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT!!!

@kirkmeister555

9 жыл бұрын

playerselite42 That's exactly what I thought. They just sort of acted like those movies never took place which then creates continuity errors in the timeline. I was sitting there in the cinemas thinking "WTF That's not how John met Kyle?"

@playerselite42

9 жыл бұрын

Kirk Donnelly Exactly.

@playerselite42

9 жыл бұрын

***** That is ABSOLUTELY wrong. It doesn't matter how much you dislike Salvation, it is CANON. Also, T2 and T3 can't exist in the same universe as Genisys. There are too many contradictions.

@BarrytheSuperScot

9 жыл бұрын

playerselite42 Exactly. That's what annoyed me about Genisys (I still liked it, but that annoyed me). Not only do T2, T3 and Salvation not count but neither does the original since it's all different. The future timeline John in this movie has not been from any of the timelines before (not the original timeline with 1997 Judgment day or the T2-Salvation Timeline with 2004 Judgment day) This is a completely separate timeline, leaving us with no actual ending to the original 4 movies.

@BM-vl4ms

9 жыл бұрын

salvation was alright but T3 was horrible

To personally have it make more sense for me, I just watch the first two films and pretend the other three afterwards don't exist. It's less confusing that way. After T2, Cyberdyne/Skynet is completely destroyed and Judgment Day doesn't happen. The End.

@Wglass90

7 жыл бұрын

Diablo Pesina No, because there's things in T3 that contradicts T2: Judgment Day such as Connor's age, and it was also the start of when the timeline began to not make sense.

@Jmeon4eva

7 жыл бұрын

Wglass90 in that case just go to TSCC, oh wait, FOX cancelled it before it ended because, sci-fi on Fox, and their excuse of "the timelines" and "Terminator Salvation" and "Confused fans"

@irieite9666

6 жыл бұрын

Nah sorry that doesn't make sense either. If Cyberdyne/Skynet is destroyed then there is no john Conor to destroy it in the first place. John only exists because the terminators exist and vice versa.

@TheBrass18

3 жыл бұрын

@@irieite9666 the time line and storyline would be fixed or easier if Kyle Reese wasn’t John’s dad. That’s where it’s gets confusing! The only reason John sends back Reese to the past is to protect his mother and be his father, and after T2, technically speaking, after the Cyberdyne is blown up and T-800 are destroyed in the molten steel, Skynet would never have existed, so there is no war, between humans and robots, and there is no need to send Reese back to the past, so John Connor never sends Reese back, because he never existed. So sum up, it’s pointless to change the past, because judgement day was always going to happen. So basically, the dark future still exists, except there is alternate reality where it doesn’t. But John Connor, should not exist in that alternate reality, because there is no need to, but he does, so in every reality, there will be always some version of skynet fighting humans.

This did actually help thanks :)

That was cool. Ever since watched it I been watching all the other movies to put it together. great Job man

The video is just under 10 minutes. I respect you guys

Why the hell would living out the rest of the 80's be a bad thing?

@sp00keeee

7 жыл бұрын

Cold War

@scout9935

7 жыл бұрын

funky hair my answer weird funkcy hair and probely a terminator or 2

@ksuma715

7 жыл бұрын

80?? put 3 years back...1977...aaah first star wars

@vinny5727

7 жыл бұрын

Projectnsight never seen any of the star wars movies. or titanic lmao

@youvsyou945

7 жыл бұрын

No shit! Instant loss of any credibility after that. 80's were awesome!

VERY Entertaining. Great job Dave and gang.......

i LOVE this channel

NewMediaRockstars, you asked why the new timeline had Judgement Day pushed back. I think it's because Sarah and Pops were actively destroying all the tech that was sent back in time from the future. Without the robot arm and chip from Terminator 1 being left behind for people to find, Judgement Day would not have happened in 1997.

@NewRockstars

9 жыл бұрын

Nick Gherz Ah, good point. I can get behind that theory.

and here we are in 2017 waiting for any skynet news.

@Nightweaver1

7 жыл бұрын

It's coming. Just wait for Trump. It'll come.

@fluffyRabbit01

7 жыл бұрын

Nightweaver1 waiting........

@fluffyRabbit01

7 жыл бұрын

Nightweaver1 oh come on! what about my Mexican freinds

@youtubeofficial8266

7 жыл бұрын

imparable 71 lol genisys

@theauspiciousone27

7 жыл бұрын

Google is genisys

Ok I understand it alot better now. It's starting to make sense. Great upload man.

Thanks a lot for the video, it's the best one at explaining the timeline

I actually liked Terminator Salvation because it showed us what it was like during the war. It shows us things mentioned in previous movies (Like John Conner rescuing Kyle Reese from the extermination camp) while giving a unique story twist with Marcus being a terminator-human hybrid. Plus, the terminators in this movie genuinely look real.

This actually is the best explanation of the timeline.

this was super helpful

Gosh I love this video

You forgot to mention that the writers explained that the Skynet who assimilated Connor in the "original" timeline was from a different timeline, possibly from Salvation or another, who as they say, "dimension hopped" in his last effort to win the war since he's seen himself lose in every timeline he has visited. That's just what they said.

@GonzoTehGreat

9 жыл бұрын

WeylandYutaniInc91 Gobbledigook!

@WeylandYutaniCorp91

9 жыл бұрын

That's just what the writers said.

@GonzoTehGreat

9 жыл бұрын

WeylandYutaniInc91 Yeah, I know. It doesn't bode well...

@WeylandYutaniCorp91

9 жыл бұрын

I know it's outrageous, but that's what they said, maybe I just believe it because I still like Salvation, and 3 wouldn't be so bad if they rectify the ending. I just feel the ending of T3 pissed on T2, that's just me. Again, maybe I just believe it because I want all 5 movies in the same canon. I mean, some people think the writers were joking because they were talking about Matt Smith who previously played Dr. Who, some sources even say that Genisys is a straight up reboot with no connections to any of the Terminator movies. Hell, if I could change one thing about the movie, I would take out the part when Skynet grabs Connor and say that Connor was assimilated in a timeline we hadn't seen yet.

@GonzoTehGreat

9 жыл бұрын

WeylandYutaniInc91​​ Salvation is underated. I liked it as a standalone redempton story but it didn't feel like a Terminator film to me because they completely changed how the future war looked and recast everyone! T3 ending did contradict T2 ending but was consistent with T1 ending so Cameron left himself open to something like that by leaving the T2 ending ambiguous because he wanted to make a T3 but never got round to it. The rest of T3 is best forgotten! A 5 movie canon is probably asking too much. Alien, Superman, Star Wars, LOTR all suffered a drop on quality after the initial 2-3 films because either the film making team changed and/or they ran out of a decent story to tell... I honestly don't know yet what to think of TG but I still prefer the simpler "causal loop" of the earlier films than this multi-verse explanation.

Me: *watches the whole video* Also me: *wait, what?* Also me: *restart*

I would like to thank you for this and complement you on the excellent way you presented it. So many videos like this are filled with vulgar stuff that is absolutely not necessary. You did a great job, you were entertaining and extremely intelligent about the whole thing. You also helped me understand the movies a little bit better. Also the humor that you used was excellent so please don't change a thing about how you were doing these videos.

Gabe, you were born to do this. 1 of the few web shows I can watch. Soooo much data in 10 minutes. Awesome stuff.

My mind is blown i need morgan freeman to come and explain it to me

Okay here is my question/thoughts: if sending the "Pop's" back to 1973 to protect Sarah and Pop's keeps her alive to meet Kyle, but they never have sex. So how does John remain if he was never Born? If the the T1and T2 are erased, then how does John survive the "ripple" in space/time?

@AzazelZaphorOmega

8 жыл бұрын

Right?

@nenasrajic9728

8 жыл бұрын

BECAUSE IT'S TERMINATOR

@MarcTale

8 жыл бұрын

This is the question I also asked myself. My conclusion:The John Connor in Genisys is technically the last John Connor from 2029. By jumping from 1984 to 2017 they destroyed the possibility of John being born in 1985. The earliest he could be born (IF he is born) would be 2018 which would make him 11 in 2029. So either the whole thing would have to be postponed or there would be a peaceful future OR there would be no John Connor at all since they barely had any chemistry at all. Since the sequels to Genisys are not going to happen we will most likely not find out.

@coldplayfan6070

Жыл бұрын

Jason Clarke's John Connor may have said that it caused a ripple effect in which his existence was now a paradox from which it no longer connects to Kyle and Sarah conceiving him.

Good job !

This video has helped me in such a big way Thanks mate!!!!

Thanks, Doctor Brown. This now makes total sense. Now how do they get back to 1985?

@bassplayer807

9 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm build a time machine is my guess, In TSCC ( not canon) Cameron told John in the bank vault, they sent one of their best engineers to salvage parts for the TDE..... I wanna see the T-5000 in action in the next film, I have a cool concept for a T-2000 ( the gap between)!!

@patrickmccarron5059

9 жыл бұрын

bassplayer807, tell us more about the 2000 model.

@bassplayer807

9 жыл бұрын

Something similar to Raiden's NANOMACHINES in Metal Gear Rising: Revengence, CNT muscle fibers to replace human muscle fibers, and Nanites to make him a bullet timer....... I personally think the T-3000 should've been the first Terminator to dodge projectiles, the T-4000 could be something like Greed (FMA) or Senator Armstrong ( MGRR) + Monsoon ( he split his body into individual parts due to his magnetic field).

The timeline is complicated Avengers Endgame: Hold my Infinity stones

@ibrokemyownheart4953

4 жыл бұрын

Nah that timeline is simple. Cod Zombies: hold my jug

@spider-manys2934

4 жыл бұрын

Legend of Zelda : hold my Link

@ericmonguz1579

4 жыл бұрын

Saw hold my gore

you. are. hilarious!!!!! I laughed so freaking hard at this vid! Great Job!!

As a bit of a Terminator fan, I enjoyed it pretty well. The nostalgia factor is pretty high. Great video btw, I love time travel sci-fi stories so keeping up with all the time lines is pretty fun for me. :D

Genysis makes Salvation look better then most people think

basicly the time original time line of Terminator does still exist when you consider in theory one cannot effect the past nor future as like for example take dragon ball z when trunks went back into the past this past he went to was entirely different from the one he knew thus creating 2 seperate time lines or in short it's the multiverse theory as an example needless to say when we look back at terminator 2 and the alternate time line John has a family and Sarah Grew old to become a grandmother to even say the time lines were not erased only creating alternate time lines.

@bassplayer807

9 жыл бұрын

Just like in the History of Trunks timeline, Gohan died because he never achieved SS2, the androids were never absorbed by Cell in that timeline, and android 16 didn't exist...... and the only way Trunks easily took out 17, 18, and Cell was because he took the time machine back to train with his father Vegeta, and then come back and annihilate 17, 18, and Cell with ease....... When Trunks explained his future to everyone it reminded me of how Kyle Reese explained his hellish dystopian future. It would suck being the only Saiyan left alive.

@partaikomunisindonesia6159

9 жыл бұрын

bassplayer807 That is why i said the original time line of Terminator is not erased it just created different time lines or to even say infact alternate time lines. Exactly like John Conner said in Terminator Salvation this future is different than what his mother told him about things had changed but not only that Terminator 3 was as well an alternate time line of judgement day. Even tho in Terminator 2 we could see they had destroyed everything to prevent judgement day but because of time travel they created alternate time lines and thus the creation of genisys

@JPPretzel

9 жыл бұрын

Leander Lumbanraja The problem is that whilst they can co-exist there is no way they can meld together. The T-800 cannot be in the 1984 where Pops and Sarah already have altered and where a T-1000 has already been sent with what we can assume a new target in the form of Reese. Having already altered the past, the 1984 is now different. Skynet would not send a T-800 to a time period which it has knowledge has been altered to now include a hardened warrior and a protector T-800 easily capable of destroying skynet's terminator. The only return that could make sense is the T-1000 attempting to kill Reese. The other T-800 should no longer ever be there, the timeline has changed.

@partaikomunisindonesia6159

9 жыл бұрын

J Preston Yes but as i said this is a different time a alternate time line but still the original time line still exist like when we looked at back to the future and the trunks saga of dbz you could see the different time lines that co-exist it doesn't really mean ther original time line had been deleted

@JPPretzel

9 жыл бұрын

They can co exist but they cannot possibly be merged, thats the issue with Genisys, it has timelines over lap and becomes messy. The T-800 should no longer appear in 1984 in Genisys.

Well that cleared it up! Smart moves they did! Thanks!

Thanks for explaining that, makes sense now.

So what happened with t-800 that saved Sarah in 1973? And why is he not there already with her in 1984?

@NewRockstars

9 жыл бұрын

Darko Djalovic That is the one that's with her in 1984.

@disseciton86

9 жыл бұрын

NewMediaRockstars But in 1984 we have "bad" t-800 that is sent to kill her...

@pokaface44

9 жыл бұрын

+Darko Djalovic Watch the movie.

@disseciton86

9 жыл бұрын

Poka Face which one i watched them all? although first one i watched long time ago.

@pokaface44

9 жыл бұрын

+Darko Djalovic Terminator Genisys

I feel so educated

@thealterist9762

5 жыл бұрын

Want a medal now!?

Brilliant!

his is some great info!!!!! wow!!!! I subscribe!!!!

As far as Terminator goes it should have finished at Terminator 2. Unfortunately there is money to be made out of poor sequels when the 2nd Terminator was fantastic and it ended the franchise in my opinion...

@NewRockstars

9 жыл бұрын

crazee635 True, but I'm such a silly optimist with these things. I always want them to be great. It's like trying to get lightning to strike twice, or more like 6 times.

@crazee635

9 жыл бұрын

NewMediaRockstars I enjoyed the video...well explained and presented !

@GonzoTehGreat

9 жыл бұрын

crazee635 There was always room for a prequel (although you might not consider that to be T3) and once the films had "completed the loop" they could deal with what happened after 2029 because the time machine wasn't destroyed so the war wasn't over! But we needed Cameron to make them and he wasn't interested in doing so... BIATCH

@paolobbbbb

9 жыл бұрын

crazee635 I agree with you at 100%...saga is T1 and T2-JD (words of James Cameron)...end!!!!!!the alternative timeline in T3 > Salvation and the reset saga T-Genisys are patetic and ridiculous!!!!

Judgment day was postponed because the original inventor didn't get the remains of the first t800

@MuzgontarAco

8 жыл бұрын

+Levi Dixon so with this in mind Robot John Conor never existed at best he would send Kyle back before he was erased from history.. or future..

@levidixon1176

8 жыл бұрын

Acek im confused now...

@DarkLight-sz1vp

4 жыл бұрын

No wonder we have shitty movies, T3 could have been possibly made in the 90s

great job

The film is surprisingly deep, they allude to the fact that they are stuck in a never ending loop, full of moves and counter-moves, with neither skynet or the resistance able to break the cycle. Who knows how long they have been fighting for, how many terminators and soldiers they have sent back and forth, but even so neither is able to break the stalemate. From a production point of view it was a pretty good move, you can essentially cannonise all terminator works, and spin a story which creates the impression of a futile unwinnable struggle.

Its indeed that genysis erase everything on the terminator saga. "Who sent the good T800 and raise sarah?" Maybe the answer is at dark fate

@miltonortiz3853

4 жыл бұрын

Ujang Boyor, no because Terminator Dark Fate is going to ignore everything about Terminator 3, Terminator Salvation and Genisys. Terminator Dark Fate will be a direct sequel to Terminator Judgement Day. So just pretend those terrible sequels never happened

@ibrokemyownheart4953

4 жыл бұрын

George McFly they were not terrible sequels.

The time line wasn't even confusing. Primer was way crazier in terms of timelines.

@ibrokemyownheart4953

4 жыл бұрын

Try Cod zombies

Educational and highlarious. Like it, love it. I laughed in every timeline.

brilliant mate

I guess I'm the only person that actually liked ALL the terminator films lol

@imfodder7169

8 жыл бұрын

salvation was eh

@lzymxn

8 жыл бұрын

+Saitama salvation could have had an ending that changed everything but apparently the test audience hated the ending so we got the nonsensical crapfest instead. Hurray for focus groups.

im gonna guess and say that katherine bruster sent back the t-800 to the 70s since she is in 3and 4 presumably she could be in genisys just kept out of the main story

@CallMeGaffer

9 жыл бұрын

Robert Vasquez Did you notice though, that in the parking lot scene (Genisys) where Arnold is choking Reese he listens to Sarah Connors commands as she said "let him go"? I think Linda Hamilton will be in the latter films.

@RobertDoomsdayVasquez

9 жыл бұрын

true

@GonzoTehGreat

9 жыл бұрын

Call Me Gaffer Boooosh! Although I'd be surpised if they bring back Hamilton. That would be cool indeed...

@chaserred4155

9 жыл бұрын

I'm just gonna go all out dumb, I like to believe that originally in the jacked up timeline the T-1000 does kill baby Sarah and Skynet wins but then takes a look at what it's done and said "oh.....oh shit, I can't believe it, we won" but after awhile it realizes the meaning of humanity, and attempts to send the Pops or as I like to called him "Arnold" terminator back to stop that happening from happening and with humanity comes a great ego so it erased everything about Pops past except for it's main objective: Kick the T-1000's ass, and if you don't believe so, it's my opinion and I'm gonna state it

@dbb8321

9 жыл бұрын

Robert Vasquez I think it's pretty obvious that Skynet/Alex/Matt Smith sent back the Pops terminator after changing it's mind about John's role in it's own future. Yeah I could be wrong, but it seems like the way writers think.

this video is great

This is actually a great explanation

The franchise made sense until terminator 3 came in. Now I'm gonna risk my movie nerd pass for this, but terminator salvation was pretty decent, and surprisingly I prefer terminator 3 over genisys (even though terminator 3 was still pretty bad). Genisys literally ripped off the 3rd and 2nd movie, not to mention the Sarah Connor chronicles show which I thought was well done. The ONLY thing good about Genisys was Arnold coming back and doing what he does best. Other than that this franchise is going down the drain.

@vlLEGTxSQUADX

6 жыл бұрын

Jorge Martinez tru

It doesn't even seem like that long ago genesis was out & already its 2019💬....

@Babyjokers2.0t

5 жыл бұрын

Tbh😂😂 I'm barely gonna watch it rn so I came to this video to recap, and now I'm lost😂

es exactamente lo que yo pense amigo perfecto me gusto un vergo tu explicacion carnal

really good explanation thanx ........................................

Terminator Salvation is amazing wtf

I call bullshit on predestination paradox. There has to be an original timeline before paradoxes can happen. The first Terminator film created a paradox, by having Kyle Reese become John's Father. There's no way Kyle could be John's original Father in the original timeline.

@DarthDragon007

7 жыл бұрын

Unless John's father in the original timeline was Kyle Reese, but a completly different one from the timetravel version.

@aun06

5 жыл бұрын

the original shit is that there was no reese and the t800 sent back to the 70s thus normal 70s

Very good timeline analysis

That was so amazingly explained like wow mate i get it now Damn.

The official correct badass order of films: 1. Terminator 2 2. Terminator 1 3. Terminator Genisys 4. Terminator Salvation 5. Terminator 3

@lm-hr7kh

4 жыл бұрын

Choochoobe how do u know i’m confused hella

@J.P.Robles

4 жыл бұрын

Terminator 3 was the best y’all crazy

it has been confirmed from the writers of t-gensys that the t-1000 that killed sarah's parents was the same one that was in 1984. In 1973, when the young Terminator arrives to protect Sarah, she’s just witnessed the death of her parents. The movie mentions “liquid metal” in the scene but the writers confirmed it was the same T-1000, played by Byung-hun Lee, seen later in the movie who was there. “So when she kills that thing in the acid, she’s killing the thing that killed her parents,” said Kalogridis. too bad robert patrick wasn't in it. he would have made a good t-1000 in the movie since he, like arnold is old and since pops gets older in 2017 with gray hair. Robert patrick was the best in playing the advanced terminators. he was colder, and more dark in the movie, the tx-9 i dont know. she was weaker in my opinion than the t-1000. she wasnt liquid metal. and arnold nearly took her out with a rocket launcher and she was all damaged after he landed the chopper on her in the end. if it was the t-1000, he would have just pulled himself back together.

@Ackreti

8 жыл бұрын

+terry autry Nice. My explanation was the T-1000 comes from one of many timelines, just some unknown timeline, and he is just filling action scenes. However this is much better explanation and makes more sense since Sarah said she was on the run since childhood.

@Ackreti

8 жыл бұрын

+terry autry Did they explain why Silberman (police psychologist) remembers Terminators from the past in Genisys film? Siberman in Genisys timeline shouldn't be able to remember terminators from T1, T2 and T3. According to Genisys timeline cops and Silberman never saw terminators (like in T1), Silberman was never a Sarah's doctor (T2 Silberman and T-800 in hospital) and Silberman never saw T-800 in T3 film (the graveyard scene where Silberman saw T-800).

@terryautry6493

8 жыл бұрын

that wasn't Dr Silverman. that old guy that you saw is one of the cops in the beginning of the movie who handcuffs kyle reese. one of the cops gets killed by the t-1000 and the other hides behind some desk with reese and uncuffs him, and then the terminator and sarah drive a truck into the building, the cop escapes because the t-000 was more interested in chasing sarah and kyle and pops. so the old guy in 2017 is the same guy from 84, the cop that uncuffs reese in the building. Silverman wasn't in the film. Because since the t-800 was killed on the spot soon as he got there, and since sarah already know what was going to happen, things didn't go like they would have in the first movie. in the first movie, t-800 chases sarah and kyle and that's when Sarah meets silverman. since this didnt happen in genysys It means silverman doesnt know anything about this. and He's not in 2017 because he's probably dead due to old age. And just scrap t-2 and the later films. none that never happened because of what we see in this movie. Skynet, from a different time line according to the writers is not the skynet you see in all the other films. this is a different one from another dimension. according to writers, he came from somewhere else. Skynet turned into human form and traveled through the different timelines and knew it would get beaten, so that's why he said to john when he attacked him, while reese was going back in time, he said ive come along ways to see you. that means skynet is telling john he came from far in the future. Skynet knew everything from what was going to happen in all the three timelines, so it just got tired of losing and finally went to 2029 and pushed judgement day to 2017 instead of 97.

@terryautry6493

8 жыл бұрын

and at the beginning of the film, the 2029 you see is the actual original 2029 from the first terminator. because according to writers, judgement day actually happened already in 97. so that means when you hear reese mention judgement day at the beginning of the film, he's referring to judgement day 97. but since the weird skynet came on the scene in 2029 history already changed. so that's why kyle was having all those memories. it's more like a life he would have lived in judgement day didnt happen in 97. Because the lady says kyle wasnt born til 2002. that means since the newly created 2017 timeline, judgement day never started. so just scrap terminators 2-4. and just rely on the first one and the last one. I say this because john sends kyle to 84, the first one. so that means t-2 hasnt happened yet or t-3. only difference is, since a terminator went to 73, things from 84 were still going to play out like in the first one but since sarah already knows, things didnt go as planned. thats why you see the t-800 from 84 there. it's because everyone was going to happen like in the first film. and that means there couldnt be a t-2 because cyberdynamics i think it was in the first film, couldnt become cyberdine nor could it make skynet in t-2. skynet was only created due to the chip from the first terminator. that's when skynet is being created already in the second film. so now it's like all tiemlines from Genyses 84 on forward are deleted and erased after sarah and kyle go to the future in 2017. they are actually in an alternate timeline from kyle's other memories. that's why john tells pops after beating him says you are nothing but a relic from a deleted timeline. all timelines from the past are already gone. But since skynet is still out there, that means in the sequel it will show up on the scene. and i dont think there will ever be another john connor. I think sarah and kyle will lead the new resistance along with pops since pops got upgraded to almost like a t-1000 which means he wont age anymore and it means his parts wont be rusted like you saw in Genysys. they said they are planning two sequels. so i hope we get to find out who sent pops and the t-1000 back.

@silentgamer2074

8 жыл бұрын

+terry autry *mind blown* out of every theory and explanation this is a damn good one.

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING, HOLY COW I WAS SO CONFUSED, seriously tho thank you for explaining all of this

nice job

you actually explained it pretty good. it makes a lot of sense. unfortunately no amount of explanation can do any good for T3 & salvation. yuck. can we all just pretend those movies never happened?

@AlexisDevilman

8 жыл бұрын

some people wont

@MuzgontarAco

8 жыл бұрын

+BreachingTBone well you know how the timelines are going but it makes no sense.. T1 and T3 have the fate time travel model T2 and T5 have the alternate timelines time travel model.. no sense.. at least T4 didnt some up with the third time travel model.. it actually didnt make any time travel which in this franchise bends to the convenience of the writers..

@TheMrPeteChannel

8 жыл бұрын

+Omari Thompson Fanboys where butt hurt because, no plasma weapons.

How has Kyle Reese always been John Connor's father if he never went back in time until T1?

@TonyQuinn

7 жыл бұрын

+FinnThePlanespotter Sounds legit 😜

@mchl252

7 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_loop

@CactusG26

7 жыл бұрын

i guess it's implied that it was pre-destined that Kyle Reese was gonna be sent back to 1984 to be John's father... i guess there is no 1984 in any timeline without Reese arriving in it...

gabe... YOU ROCK!!!!

This explained so much! Awesome film too.

Genisys wasn't the greatest movie but it's a hell of a lot better than Dark Fate. I was actually wanting to know what the deal was with the terminators being sent back to the 70s but I guess that will never happen...

But robot John Connor is sent back from the original timeline because he can't exist in the Genisys timeline. Unless an alternate future can still send people back to a past that has changed, but then that means that a T-1000 and T-800 were sent back to 1995 where John and Sarah Connor won't exist. I'm still confused

@Millstone1985

9 жыл бұрын

Marty Sparde Wouldn't it be funny if none of that time travel erased anything but just expanded the multiverse?

@Drownedinblood

9 жыл бұрын

+Marty Sparde Don't worry Genisys is stupid. It's just made so hollywood can make money on the franchise. They don't give a shit about in universe continuity. You can ask why skynet would still send back a T-800 if a T-1000 was already sent and encountered first and why the events of the first movie would still play out the same but every other one won't. If this other skynet was already very aware of the timeline we know from the original films, why didn't it say send back a terminator to say upload or plant devices that would lead to it's eventual creation anyway? It should have just ended at 2, that was a damn good send off for this series and showed the heroes actually triumphing over the apocalypse itself.

@dreadslimglass4599

8 жыл бұрын

+Ulfbert Or The Terminator franchise is a big multiverse type of shit. That will answer alot of shit. Imagine if the skynet (matt smith) is from another timeline/universe and that skynet maybe won the war and come to this timeline/universe to take the victory!!... it's just a theory.

@badguyd6523

8 жыл бұрын

+Millstone1985 kind of feel like thats what happened lol I dont really like time travel stuff to confusing lol

@jmcgowan000

8 жыл бұрын

+〉9.0x10^3 Think about this. Lets just say we're just going through time and all those significant years where the events occur go by. NO time travel & NO terminators. How would Skynet exist? With no t 800 arm to influence that black man to start Cyberdyne how would skynet and everything that happens after, happen?

sweet video

Well said

terminator salvation was awesome

@Mellagosto

8 жыл бұрын

I'm here thinking the same. Terminator Salvation was GREAT!!!

@Jackal_El_Lobo34

8 жыл бұрын

I don't like it but enjoyed it more so then T3 and Genisys. It tried to do something original and had sleek visuals with practical effects but was ultimately a letdown down a bland story.

@kevinfromsales6842

6 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@mikeychainsaw9760

6 жыл бұрын

The Terminator and T2 was the best the other was decent to trash at best

Great explanation of a terrible idea.

Thank you

lol nicely put