Technique is Overrated in Basketball... Here's Why 👀

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Technique matters. That's not a question. But is it as essential as it's traditionally thought to be? I argue not! Here are my thoughts on why.
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  • @jessebeijer8126
    @jessebeijer81262 жыл бұрын

    Great shooters find the best possible form for the time and space they’re given. When they’re wide open, which is rare, they tend to shoot pretty “textbook”.

  • @ivlime9969

    @ivlime9969

    2 жыл бұрын

    I developed my own jumper, but was forced to stop shooting the way I did just because they wanted my guide arm tucked even though you're shooting arm is the only arm you need close to your body. I haven't been the same since😔

  • @Chiraqtown1

    @Chiraqtown1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts I was a high 35% from the arc line in HS and ur right the only open shot u get is on a 2-3 but most games everyone played man so u had to be able to hit open easily or make contested shots

  • @Xootupx2x7

    @Xootupx2x7

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ivlime9969 Even still, if you look at shooters like Trae, Ja, or Poole even there shooting arm is pointed out some but the thing that doesn't change is that every good shooters it that there wrist is square with the rim, your elbow can be slightly out and still have just as a consistent shot as anybody else.

  • @mcmerry2846

    @mcmerry2846

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only Klay Thompson shoots textbook

  • @mcmerry2846

    @mcmerry2846

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ivlime9969 i shot textbook, but as an undersized guard I had to speed up the things.

  • @LtNduati
    @LtNduati2 жыл бұрын

    I was late to basketball, didn't really play much until later on in high school and a lot in college, but I know I'm a very good shooter. The way I approach it is I try to shoot the shot in that "perfect" form whenever possible, but also know to think about (and practice) those abnormal shot forms when the situation demands it. Because I had a late start, and taught myself for the most part, I knew I wanted to have the same form on most shots, but thought it was bizzare to treat every shot the same, I mean, even the pro's form changes when taking a foul shot vs. a jumper from the same distance

  • @maskedky

    @maskedky

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro can you elaborate on that last past a little more? I've heard this before but didn't know if it was true or not. Do some players really have 2+ shooting forms???

  • @fuzzykhan8869

    @fuzzykhan8869

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maskedky yes a lot of players shoot 2 motion in the mid range and one motion around the 3

  • @WeMissDimebag

    @WeMissDimebag

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t call it 2 forms, it’s more like your motion adapts to the context of the shot. You want the ball to do the same thing basically every time but your body might have to move differently to do it. Teach your body to be adaptable instead of trying to be a perfect robot.

  • @soooslaaal8204

    @soooslaaal8204

    2 жыл бұрын

    pretty much had that exact same situation, taught myself with different footwork and release speeds and a ton of variation

  • @ballerzcrew1469

    @ballerzcrew1469

    2 жыл бұрын

    On midrange, shoot more at peak. On 3’s, shoot more on the way up

  • @Aaron-ix8zh
    @Aaron-ix8zh2 жыл бұрын

    I agree to an extent but you wanna keep your own form as consistent and the same as possible even in the variation. Ofc some shots you have to fade or you might pick it up at different area than your shot pocket. The thing is you still have to try to keep the shot the same. If your forced into a different type of form shot that’s not your own then you should not have taken that shot but I agree to an extent since your shot isn’t going to be perfect every time. For me sometimes I don’t pick up the ball at my shooting pocket but I’m still able to make them so things like that are okay at times but you wanna make the shot as consistent and same as possible

  • @zoesh2441

    @zoesh2441

    2 жыл бұрын

    You said: “If your forced into a different type of form shot that’s not your own then you should not have taken that shot ”. That’s not true because there’s plays where like a jab then step back is the best option to get a good look. U create the space and get an open look but if you’re not strong enough you have to do more of a push shot from your stomach area. Which is a different form. So your telling me to not shoot that shot since it’s a different form from your usual form? Thats the point of this video. To stop being so strict on forms and limiting players. Instead urge dem to practice different forms

  • @javierdelgado1554

    @javierdelgado1554

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with what you said...the form should stay consistent as possible no matter the shot...sometimes, of course, you have to shoot a quick shot but the form is still good...even though it's a quicker release.

  • @dipper5835

    @dipper5835

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zoesh2441 Thats not what he said at all.. He isn't saying to do this textbook copy form from feet to head. These players practice these shots for hours in practice, That is still their form in that position. If you practice only fade in midrange and not in 3pt then those two are your shooting form. Its not like you just pick one form and be stuck with it. You can have 4 shooting form for whatever position on the court, aslong as they are all consistent. If you were to shoot a shot and do some weird janky motion that you never do ingame or practice, whether it goes in or not, it is a bad shot. If you practice full courts shot and its consistent then hell, shoot a full court shot and in my opinion its not considered a bad shot

  • @ryanbaxter12
    @ryanbaxter122 жыл бұрын

    Great shooters have fantastic variable control at the finish (release) of their shot as you are pointing out. However, let's not let that deter us from teaching a solid base level of fluidity, power transfer, and being to do so consistently. I think the OG ProShot had an excellent place to start. Be aware of how your mechanics affect your shot, strive to shoot straight (alignment) then continue to refine. By the way...I do think the lessons for beginners in this video are awesome. Also should emphasize more off hand shooting work and control. Overall I agree with this video!

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball
    @ByAnyMeansBasketball2 жыл бұрын

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  • @MS-ho9wq
    @MS-ho9wq2 жыл бұрын

    I felt this, thanks coach, have been in a rut, I think this is what I needed to hear to change things up a bit

  • @JahalaAndala
    @JahalaAndala2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, great examples and clips to really demonstrate your points. Side note, what is that instrumental in the background cuz it's 🔥🔥

  • @jutestemplo9586
    @jutestemplo95862 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone said it. Every situation is different. Shooting while moving is important. No one practices shooting while moving in high volumes. People are mostly doing spot shooting

  • @ja23productionz58
    @ja23productionz582 жыл бұрын

    Great video and as someone who dedicates hours a day and years to shooting, I’m glad someone finally said it. This is a realization any great shooter will eventually reach. Of course, the foundation is important, and many great shooters spend years refining that, but that refined form will always look different between and within players.

  • @christjosh8853

    @christjosh8853

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes for sure same here. Couldn't shoot 3s until I was 23 because I was athletically gifted to the point I never had to shoot but tore an ACL and had to learn to shoot out of necessity and I became the best shooter almost anytime I play anywhere in only a year. It's really just understanding your shot in itself. The mechanics don't have to be exactly the same only the end form does. I preach to everyone I train the best shooters aren't the ones who can make the most in a row the best shooters are the ones who can adjust the quickest after missing

  • @zoesh2441
    @zoesh24412 жыл бұрын

    Facts. I’m an all range shooter player and I literally have like probably 15 minorly different shots and forms for different situations and factors. For instance I shoot more from my hip than from center when I have tired or injured legs. I fadeaway or use mostly wrist on shots when my arms are feeling strong that day. Etc

  • @6aliph77
    @6aliph772 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff you deserve all the accolades your gdtting👍🏾👑💯💯

  • @joshwood4372
    @joshwood4372 Жыл бұрын

    This was the video I needed! I practice basketball at a local court and sink a lot of shots but I started watching videos to get the right form. Being in my head about it makes me miss a lot of shots. A lot of good points in this. I like how you embrace the imperfection of jump shots. Thanks man.

  • @user-oc6kb5kr6l
    @user-oc6kb5kr6l2 жыл бұрын

    Great one brother!

  • @ayoubex1951
    @ayoubex19512 жыл бұрын

    i agree, being able to perform in any situation is key to be really effective, diversing is so valuable don't know why they stick to shooting in spots, it's good to build consistency with a certain form but some variations is good too, make it quicker higher from different dribbles set points foot position. in my opinion i like to have a frame a certain root that i preserve (or different frames) that worked for me that allows me to be confident and consistent and confortable and then you make variations based on that, i was a one motion shooter with a precise set point when i understood the root of my shooting i was able to make two motion shots with high set points instantly, having a root is a good idea for me the other parameters doesn't count as much so you have a sense of consistency while being pretty free, ofc you keep it simple it so you can perform freely and with ease and practice will do the rest. when you start you try to get consistent with a certain form (at a certain extent, you can't control everything, practice is key) so you build a weapon and try to work on it to make it effective in game situation, you are already a threat if you have a certain form that is impredictable and hard to block that you can make with a good percentage, and the more you progress the more you practice other stuff and make more variations so you are more adaptable and effective.

  • @julianjohnson4143
    @julianjohnson41432 жыл бұрын

    I love this video best video I seen in a long time been struggling with my shooting form over thinking it when in reality I am a good shooter with a smidge different form then others

  • @calmdribbler7017
    @calmdribbler70172 жыл бұрын

    Love the video brotha

  • @alexgomez7452
    @alexgomez74522 жыл бұрын

    Great info as always 🔥🔥🔥

  • @lola3116
    @lola31162 жыл бұрын

    You often have those out of the box training techniques and comments. As always thanks for your intresting perspective!

  • @andrewhampton7918
    @andrewhampton79182 жыл бұрын

    i appreciate this 💯💯🔥🔥

  • @mandoball1980s
    @mandoball1980s2 жыл бұрын

    I been telling this to my friends for a long time! Glad you made this video sir 🙏🏻

  • @Moegini
    @Moegini2 жыл бұрын

    I noticed when I fade away the ball will come off my ring and pinky finger but still go in and if I try to shoot a fade away with my middle finger and index it will miss I always wondered if that was a bad thing since it's not following my normal form, but im glad its not

  • @zoesh2441
    @zoesh24412 жыл бұрын

    Players should practice half of the practice shooting wide open shots and the other half shooting situational shots with different defenses and motions and fatigue levels

  • @Oyi_14
    @Oyi_142 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I've noticed my mechanics changes depending on the shot quicker releases, higher set points,higher arcs,

  • @cam2x45
    @cam2x452 жыл бұрын

    This is why this has always been the best basketball channel. Great video!

  • @COOLSAUCE21
    @COOLSAUCE212 жыл бұрын

    You need to have a base of some fundamental shooting form to work from, and then try to get as close to that in all sorts of situations (facing different sides, different foot positions, gathers, release timing etc.). Block shooting has its uses too (even for those who aren't complete noobs). It's a great warm up, and a good way to get out of a shooting slump.

  • @MrJibs1231
    @MrJibs12312 жыл бұрын

    Agreed a 100%, I love to study shot mechanics, because I think that with the right approach, working on your shot and improving it are one of the easiest parts of the game. In my case, the part of the rim that I aim into, the finger that touches the ball last, my release point, everything changes, depending on the shot I'm taking, and I've worked on my shot from different spots with that into account just so my body gets used to it. It's actually quite challenging and fun, but you can quickly see the results.

  • @carlogaytan7010
    @carlogaytan70102 жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing as a good shooting form. Just like there isnt a textbook mouse grip, golf grip swing, running form, soccer kick. All we can do is see what the great shooters have in common. Obviously mid range jumpers/fades, wide open catch and shoot, quick catch and shoot, off the dribble, from deep will all have slight differences in timing, release point, and power generation. What all good form hace in common is one motion, steady stance, about 90 degree shoulder and elbow, and a good follow through. All the bad shooters have a 2 motion shot, and have a release point like above thier head, and have like a 130 degree elbow and shoulder set point. Variations with position more left, right, or center of head are acceptable. Dip, off hand movement/influence, feet, jump, and speed are all according to you liking and body type.

  • @xobile566
    @xobile5662 жыл бұрын

    the distinction here is mainly catch and shoot vs off the dribble, and that depends on your role within the team. catch and shoot is more form and technique oriented, while off the the dribble, the versatility is more valued. i do think certain techniques in shooting allow for better rhythm both off the catch and off the dribble, for example Stephen Curry, whereas certain forms/techniques favor a more catch and shoot style, i.e. desmond bane/klay thompson. steph aligns his body mid air which allows for a consistent release every time regardless of his lower body, where as someone like PJ Tucker who's lower body is more rigid when shooting might find it to be more difficult to get those shots off. all this to say i think practicing versatile shooting depends on your natural shooting technique and your role within the team. if you're PJ Tucker, you don't really need to be practicing dribble up 3s.

  • @ThuanTran-nv9yb
    @ThuanTran-nv9yb2 жыл бұрын

    Reference Dirk when he practices with his coach and mentor. He had him spinning one leg and taking shots. Very unorthodox but it gave him the awareness to be able to get his shot of with either leg. Turned that into the one legged fade away.

  • @briang7794
    @briang77942 жыл бұрын

    I know there are NBA shooters who use thumb flick on their jumpshots but I hate that whenever I want shoot quicker I basically have to use a little bit of thumb flick. The problem with my shot is that I kinda of have the pointer finger almost behind the ball and little bit to the side, and sometimes when I try to avoid the thumb flick my shot trajectory goes left because of some side spin and I dont know how to fix it. I tried spreading my hands more but I feel like I dont get enough arc and power. I wish I had big enough hands to be a middle finger shooter because a few times I shot with the middle finger and it felt like I had more power but it's not something I've naturally developed yet.

  • @harveymacasaet1277
    @harveymacasaet12772 жыл бұрын

    Appreciated. Thanks, by any means.

  • @zerfixiswashed3758
    @zerfixiswashed37582 жыл бұрын

    Same for me i variate between shots depending on my situation for instance when I am shooting a contested shot I put my set point a little bit above my eyebrow my regular set point is above my nose and when I am doing catch and shoot I tend to have less lift compared to a midrange pull-up where I have a good amount of lift we all have to get used to imperfection because that when you can be unstoppable your defender being on their toes because they don’t know what to because if thy force you left you can easily finish with your left hand

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball
    @ByAnyMeansBasketball2 жыл бұрын

    I know this will be a bit controversial. But just consider where I’m coming from!!

  • @yomomshouse100

    @yomomshouse100

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is. And i think it is true and false. Most important thing is mechanics and how they relate to the game of basketball and keeping those in the variation. Body mechanics are most important i wont give my secrets but they are there. Then variation with proper body mechanics would be second imo which is still still high on the list, even then there are caveats to it. I like this opinion tho as it definitely somewhat true and far better opinion to share than all the basketball dogma out there that is taught as gospel.

  • @DominicVictoria
    @DominicVictoria2 жыл бұрын

    Now this makes more sense. Thanks. Because I see players do running shots and still make it with them not on their regular form.

  • @OG_Edits1337
    @OG_Edits13372 жыл бұрын

    My coach needs to see this

  • @mikov6486
    @mikov6486 Жыл бұрын

    Great points, and not even new ones one your channel either. You've already hinted at this in many of your Attention to Detail vids. Players like MJ and Kobe shoot slightly differently depending on the situation, while still maintaining some level of consistency in their form. Breaking it down systematically in this video, across many players, really illustrates that point.

  • @gabemorales3118
    @gabemorales31182 жыл бұрын

    I think you develop the best technique for you and your body type through playing a ton of basketball. I think we gotta start putting an emphasis on developing your own style and technique by exercising your creativity in each workout.

  • @andrewhampton7918

    @andrewhampton7918

    2 жыл бұрын

    i agree with this bro i used to compare my shot to my homies but i’ve learned as i got older we all have different bodies so we are going to shoot different

  • @Zaymane808
    @Zaymane8082 жыл бұрын

    My hand placement wit the ball and wrist are shitty do u have techniques for dat

  • @marcocabezas5774
    @marcocabezas57742 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video bro

  • @RegularRetro
    @RegularRetro2 жыл бұрын

    It's like any other skill, you develop your fundamentals then go from there. There is a "correct" way to shoot to some degree. Obviously you don't see anyone under handing 3 pointers or pushing the ball with both hands at the same time. They all practiced their fundamentals and built on that foundation. Obviously if you try to square yourself to the basket and jump perfect straight up on every single shot, your just gonna get blocked way more often.

  • @slimboiu3890
    @slimboiu38902 жыл бұрын

    I do agree with the idea of this title, many times i shoot the ball and it rolls off my hand weirdly but I have the ability/experience to make a subconscious adjustment so it goes in. Same idea as floaters off either leg, half court buzzer beaters etc sometimes you just cant get the shot off out of a normal shooting pocket

  • @StoneGames21
    @StoneGames212 жыл бұрын

    Definitely agree. Principles like squaring up, rhythm, and balance are important for improving one’s shot, but exact forms shouldn’t be taken as gospel (was Reggie Miller’s form “perfect”?). Great shooters are consistent to a degree while being adaptable.

  • @AlanZ2001
    @AlanZ20012 жыл бұрын

    There is a "Optimal form" for shooting and though you cannot do it in every scenario, the point is to get as close to it as possible each time. If you are saying: don't practice the optimal form of shooting, then I disagree with you as we can see someone using an optimal form will outshoot another person using a suboptimal form. The point in each possession is to create that opportunity to shoot the optimal form.

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely did not say that or anything close to it. In fact even mentioned we have to train the perfect form many times

  • @MrRumcajs1000

    @MrRumcajs1000

    2 жыл бұрын

    The thing is that in most situations you don't actually consciously know the optimal form and in many of them your body will let you know better than any coach could. That's just because there are infinite variables and even the brightest person or a coach will be aware of just a couple of them which form the tip of the iceberg.

  • @Thatboygtmike

    @Thatboygtmike

    2 жыл бұрын

    He literally brought up in the vid certain elements are needed to be consistent (arch etc) and even towards the end of the video. There’s a reason a lot of y’all don’t grow. Need to listen vs try to critique

  • @dt-lg2oc

    @dt-lg2oc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Thatboygtmike I get it but there is a reason some are good shooters and some or not and it's not because they should do more unusual shots no its because they don't have a good shooting form this video should be called how you should practice shooting

  • @zoesh2441

    @zoesh2441

    2 жыл бұрын

    The point is that it’s hard to consistently create opportunities to be able to take that shot with the optimal form. Things are always changing throughout the game. Specifically the defense u see possession by possession and also the change in your bodies energy levels which affects your muscle memory/touch.

  • @absorbcontact
    @absorbcontact2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutly agree on this topic - in my opinion, the best way for athletes is to use way more Differential Learning (DL) into training & shooting practices, to emphasises the exploration of movement variations (instead of movement repetitions) by constantly and randomly changing the execution of a skill, so athletes can discover what works best for them and learn to perform a skill in multitude ways to expand the amount of possible solutions. IMO there is no such thing as a perfect shooting form, that works for every individual (due the fact of different individual constraints) and for every situation in a game (due the chaotic and unpredictable nature of the game), even there are some things all good shooters have in common, like transfer of power, follow through and overall balance. There are nearly endless conditions you can build up to create random, variable practices and repetition without repetitions, ie. by changing the standining positon, movements (multi directional), hand positions, standing foot, movement velocity, different ball types and sizes, distance and angles, eyes & focal points, shooting direction, and so on. For younger athletes and kids, focus on BRADs (Back Rim And Down OR Swishes) and use analogies (as well as reduced internal focus), to help shape learning with DL. As a youth coach it drives me crazy to see so many traditional coaching with explicit instructional teaching methods, where players only allowed to try one food from the buffet, how much potential is lost because of that!? Why not let athletes try the entire selection of the buffet and see what they personally like and what works for them the best!? Don't get me wrong, there is a place and time for a more traditional approach by using block and on-air practices (mainly to get more comfortable) but to only rely on them for player development, robs players of the ability to create multiple solutions to a problem. Players should be trained to become professional problem solvers.

  • @club6525

    @club6525

    2 жыл бұрын

    Given the multitude of possible algorithms by which one can meet the individual constraints of an expected situation and maintain shot viability, I definitely agree with that. However, you made slight grammatical errors such as using "multitude" without a preceding article. I agree with the gist of your argument though.

  • @absorbcontact

    @absorbcontact

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@club6525 Thank you for your attention to detail, i hope i can fix my bad grammar in the future. English is not my native language, which is a bad excuse anyways. ;) In case of the arguments, i just approach things differently, because i always wanted to know more about how learning works and which methods you can use in practice to force more implicit learning, without me telling the players all the answers. Retaining information and transfer to actual game situations plays a keyrole here. And differential learning (DL) and constraint led approach (CLA) are methods which perfectly fits with that approach of player and skill development.

  • @Jeffrey_Ning
    @Jeffrey_Ning2 жыл бұрын

    this makes a lot of sense. a point is like to add is that while it is extremely important to be able to adapt your shot to different situations, it may also be beneficial to subconsciously keep a couple of core mechanical principles that are foundational to your shooting technique in mind during every in-game shooting situation. I think this could help reduce shooting slumps and help maintain an overall sense of consistency within inconsistent and varying scenarios.

  • @ultrabeast3165
    @ultrabeast31652 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man I appreciate this vid, I started shooting 3s better because before I used to try to perfect form for each shot, which caused me to have less power in each 3, causing tons of airballs. But know I don't really care about the form, and I'm like curry on the court💪✌️😌

  • @RealJaydenThaBoy1
    @RealJaydenThaBoy12 жыл бұрын

    It's crazy at the same exact thoughts and ideas I had 🤯.

  • @jjthe13th
    @jjthe13th2 жыл бұрын

    True. I was only ever able to do a turnaround shot to my right until I realized the mechanics are abit different, then I unlocked the turnaround shot to my left, and in turn making the dream shake a very potent weapon for me, even though I don't post up. I'm also able to shoot whilst dribbling backwards once I realized this bit of knowledge. So I could attack into a pull up. Or I could retreat, plant and shoot, catching the defense off guard And it's also how I learnt how to shoot off the dribble (before knowing about this I was a spot up shooter)

  • @laudedlonnie3278
    @laudedlonnie32782 жыл бұрын

    Thing is when you form a consistent jumpshot you’re going to know your finishing point starting point amd in between and as long as you finish the same way or start the same way your most likely going to get the result you want

  • @Panoramicperceptioncom
    @Panoramicperceptioncom2 жыл бұрын

    they can achieve very versatile forms of shooting because they Master the most effective shooting formation...and the adaptative shooting formation are always derivating from the "academical" technic...

  • @J17legacy
    @J17legacy2 жыл бұрын

    IMO everything else doesn't really matter that much except for the flick of the wrist because that is how we end every shot we take.

  • @jorelhuggins2602
    @jorelhuggins26022 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been thinking this same way since high school but never put it into action in game. I wish basketball evolved to where it is now 10 years ago would’ve helped so much.

  • @jojoprocess2820
    @jojoprocess28202 жыл бұрын

    I really don't get this. The best shooters are the guys who no matter what situation they're taking a shot, they're able to get their mechanics and technique to as close to perfect as possible. Sometimes their feet might not be set perfectly but they're still able to square their upper body, or maybe theyre not able to dip but they still have good transfer of power. Shooting is all about technique

  • @Thatwhiteblackkid
    @Thatwhiteblackkid2 жыл бұрын

    0:44 two things, one I think in both Poole highlights his feet are “staggered” (one in front of the other) when he rises up (“squared” means neither foot is in front of the other), and also just because the shot is changed doesn’t mean that technique isn’t at play here. The main focus in both of those shots is to rise up and release the ball over the front leg’s knee which is slightly turned inward.

  • @evanshipley4183
    @evanshipley41832 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video I always felt I wasn't shooting every shot the same and I was told that was bad but I feel like a lot of times I need a different shot, great vid

  • @leafroller9423
    @leafroller94232 жыл бұрын

    It depends if you're creating your own shot or if someone creating for you

  • @yeriel11
    @yeriel112 жыл бұрын

    Me personally, I don’t even think about how I’m shooting any particular shot I let the spacing have between me and the defender determine how im going to shot it and only focus on planting my right foot in front of my left and the rim.

  • @BasketballCoachesNetwork
    @BasketballCoachesNetwork2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it to keep consistancy due to being able to control the shot. I mean I agree you need to change your shot depending on the situation, but if you have a 100% going in shot form, then you just adjust it a bit, but you have a starting point? Isn't that a good thing to have a starting point and then just add variables to it (Defense, out of balance, etc)?

  • @cookiecookie1114
    @cookiecookie11142 жыл бұрын

    never In all my time playing and watching basketball have I heard so many facts in one video. I absolutely agree with what you are saying. BUT and Its a big one, If you are given the time and space you should shoot with the form that you have practiced which should also be the one that feels most comfortable to you.

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    2 жыл бұрын

    10000%

  • @jamescruz8678
    @jamescruz86782 жыл бұрын

    The differences between Steph and Klay's shots are all the proof that's needed.

  • @kirkpatrickg191
    @kirkpatrickg1912 жыл бұрын

    When percentage goes down due to technique, it definitely negatively affects you. (with the exception of certain shooting forms) But your point, creativity and situations are different is true, is needed is a good point.

  • @jdrmanmusiqking
    @jdrmanmusiqking2 жыл бұрын

    This is another reason why Kobe, Jordan and Curry are the 3 GOATS of the NBA . 3 of the most offensively creative "non-textbook" guys to exist Jordan could make any shot on any platform around the rim Kobe is the best "bad shot" maker in the history of the game. Dude could make any shot *on the court* from straight ridiculous platforms. Curry shoots his shots from his freakin stomach... The greatest shooter that has ever existed by far doesnt even have a textbook shot

  • @freddiebensonstan7037
    @freddiebensonstan70372 жыл бұрын

    the only part of technique that matters is energy tranfer. when shooting deeper shots from the 3 point line and beyond it is very important to have proper shot sequencing to ensure you are using the least amount of energy required for that specific shot. this does not matter as much in the mid range or paint as you will have to elevate higher and have a more delayed release to shoot over defenders, but its ok that those shots arent efficient because you are close to the basket and an "efficient" shot would probably get blocked.

  • @carlclemens8952
    @carlclemens89522 жыл бұрын

    I think not every Shot has to be picture Perfect but it should be in a good Range like maybe you like you can bring the Ball up a Little Bit more Right und trough your nose instead of your eye but you should Not bring it up outside of your shoulder and When it comes to setpoints you are completly Right in some Situations like highly contested midrange Jumpers you should have a high set Point While you should have a low set Point while shooting from Deep but i think the more perfekt your Shot is in Training the easier it Gets to adjust in Game

  • @christjosh8853
    @christjosh88532 жыл бұрын

    When I train people I always preach to them that shooting "perfect" shouldn't be your focus necessarily, it should be understanding your form. Understanding is so much better then anything else. Understanding what's making your shot miss in your form and Understanding the limitations and advantages of your form and how to overcome the issues or limitations is so much more important. The best shooters are not the ones who can make the most in a row. The best shooters are the ones who can adjust the fastest after missing.

  • @Trenacetate43
    @Trenacetate432 жыл бұрын

    It's always those goofy coaches and basketball nerds (who can't actually score in a real game) who say that you need to have a solid form. Every situation is different, as long as it went in, no need to change anything. Kevin martin's shooting form is one of the ugliest ever but he he made it happen.

  • @NewAgeChipSkylark
    @NewAgeChipSkylark2 жыл бұрын

    “Textbook shooting form” is around for a reason your talking about a base, gather, fading away. The form and release is always the same. The form is around for consistency

  • @Fredrok
    @Fredrok2 жыл бұрын

    nah the best shooters have the most consistent offhand and the more perpendicular it is to your shooting hand the better. thats whats meant by technique not whether ur feet are square or not. good follow through and good stability in the off hand after the release of the ball is what dictates good shooters always.

  • @BullseyeBY
    @BullseyeBY2 жыл бұрын

    the only thing that matters in your shot is the release and alignment, if you do good in these 2 you will make more shots

  • @cabinetofcuriosities9390
    @cabinetofcuriosities93902 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @basketmental
    @basketmental2 жыл бұрын

    This should be in EVERY shooting book and not that BEEF nonsense.

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed!

  • @edwinglass7025
    @edwinglass70252 жыл бұрын

    All what you said is technique… no doubt high level shooters practice different scenarios. …. there are different techniques. The black and white shooting technique you are talking about is fundamental. It’s the basics and it will always work. Never cheat the basics… you build on it. You build off fundamentals. I took almost 3 years off of basketball… now that I’m back I have to start from the beginning. What you are saying is like the basic left to right crossover is overrated cause a lot of ballhandlers use different crossovers 💯💯💯

  • @expert3593
    @expert35932 жыл бұрын

    Perfect shooting for is actually a thing. Obviously the form will vary depending on the shot in game. But having an efficient shot is absolutely way better than not

  • @gritbasketball9667
    @gritbasketball96672 жыл бұрын

    100% there are different shots for different situations. Have great Versatility is more important then becoming great at shooting the same shot over and over again.

  • @vincentsalvadorlatosa5077
    @vincentsalvadorlatosa50772 жыл бұрын

    This video reminds me of Shawn Marion and his very unorthodox shooting form.

  • @adventuresofunicornyandfri7067
    @adventuresofunicornyandfri70672 жыл бұрын

    practice the theoretical best shooting form first, only then, you can adjust to the situation. When you leave out the first, your consistency will no doubt suffer.

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @absorbcontact

    @absorbcontact

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't disagree, but have a rhetorical question anyways: what is the "theoretical best shooting form" which could fit the individual constraints and different bodytypes of all players!? Can all players shoot with klay's "perfect" shooting form!? Or like curry!? Or any other excellent shooter!? I don't think so...in my opinion there is no such thing as a "perfect or best" shooting form which are tranferable to all players. As individual you can work out and find YOUR perfect and comfortable shot based on common shooting principles (ie. energy transfer from bottom to top, balance, follow through). But how do you know and find out what works for you and your bodytype (which can change dramatically if you grow), if your (shooting) coach restricts you because of HIS stucked opinion and view of a perfect shooting form!?

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    2 жыл бұрын

    absorbcontact amazing response here

  • @officialthomasjames
    @officialthomasjames Жыл бұрын

    I’m much better at shooting when I have to release it quick/shoot off the dribble. When I’m wide open, I take my time and try to have the perfect shot, often messing myself up. My philosophy is to shoot with my whole body from the ground up and always end up following through with my hands and feet towards the basket. Ever since I changed my mindset to shoot this way, my off balance shots have had a much higher success rate.

  • @karatechap555
    @karatechap5552 жыл бұрын

    Best shooting advice video in the internet.

  • @ousmanediakhaby8339
    @ousmanediakhaby83392 жыл бұрын

    From my experience if you really practice your shot till you consistently have a good form for yourself, your body will automatically adapt in those situations. I don't think pool practices shooting sideways, when you really work on your game you just can do those things

  • @dipper5835
    @dipper58352 жыл бұрын

    Even the greatest shooters haven't perfected their shooting. Consistency is key, just because they can make it with their non usual form doesn't mean you should go and try to aim for that. If they are a great shooter then most of the time you won't get the time and space to get off your perfect shot. If they were open then they would be shooting the same % they do in practice. If they were to do unusual twist and kicks in their shots in practice then their percent will go down. You see them practice these twist and kicks sometime in practice is not because their form doesn't matter, its because they will have to be in those situations in game if they are a great shooter

  • @fatsounderscorem
    @fatsounderscorem2 жыл бұрын

    Technique is not overrated instead only using one technique, meaning rhythm, shot release points and footwork is bad... Here's why. That sounds like a more suitable title😁. Everyone has their shot like you have stated and obviously situations differ, you have to be able to make different types of shots based on the play you are running, whether set or not. That's what differs great players from the average. Being pushed out of your cylinder but still being able to aim and flick your wrist to take the shot you have been given. Always practice at game speed and stand under the rim to work on wrist flicks without bending your legs to remove them from the equation. Great video👌👍.

  • @ScheKitoff
    @ScheKitoff2 жыл бұрын

    A testement to form is Lonzo

  • @silentomatoe
    @silentomatoe2 жыл бұрын

    MKG needs to watch this

  • @owenkile6042
    @owenkile6042 Жыл бұрын

    If you don’t have a rebounder or gun to get as many shots in as quick as possible I just stand right under the rim and get 30 swishes in a row. Dramatically made me a consistent shooter

  • @drcoldbrew2291
    @drcoldbrew22912 жыл бұрын

    Effective and efficient of the best way to train shooting

  • @cchkuan
    @cchkuan2 жыл бұрын

    it's just like a baseball pitcher.. technique helps, but accuracy is all about the timing of release from your fingertips.

  • @heavenkai987
    @heavenkai9872 жыл бұрын

    I would disagree with this. The key to me in shooting is more about experience and instinct. When you shoot, a good shooter can picture where the ball goes, and how it will end up the moment the ball leaves the fingertips. That only happens with enough repetitions, and enough constants in your shot for you to be able to reflect and analyse why the result was as such (long, short, left/ right etc). Once you reach a level of experience, you can break the rules, and many NBA-level shooters do so. However, before you get to a level of competency to understand and apply changes like that to your shot, the technique remains the most significant priority. So many times people try and take difficult shots like this without understanding the fundamentals of shooting, and they have no baseline to work off of, they don't understand what made them miss, and thus improvements are not made. Unless you already are a pro athlete who has a strong mastery of shooting, this video would not make as much sense. Pros at that high of a level need to break the basics to catch their defenders off guard, or that it is the shot they would get. So your video makes sense for them, not for many players who are beginning on their journey of learning to shoot. I am afraid that this video sends the wrong message to many players who have not mastered the basics and will go out and try different shots and not understand why.

  • @absorbcontact

    @absorbcontact

    2 жыл бұрын

    So you basicly say you have to master the basic technique first to be able to reflect, analyse and understand the why. I see your point, that is practically the traditional skill based approach (you have to learn the skill and the tactics before you can play the game), which is used since decades. Still i would argue, that there are other and even better ways, especially for beginners and young athletes. Don't get me wrong here, there is time and space for traditional training methods but in my opinion that should be just a part of the equation and not the only way. From a motor skill science perspective you want to widen the range of functional movements as far and as often as possible, to expand the movement solutions. And differential learning (DL) methods are based on that, where you constantly and randomly changing the execution of a skill (repetitions without repetitions), so athletes can self-discover what work best for them and to perform a motor skill in differnt ways to expand the amount of possible solutions. In context of learning to shoot a basketball a DL condition could be to let your athletes shoot from different foot positions (stagger, parallel, wide, narrow and "normal") or with different movement velocity (quick, slow, 50%, variable, etc.), off different standing foots (1-foot, 2-feet, on toes, on heels, whole feet), or different hand placements, angles, directions, movements, with different sport balls and sizes, standing positions, distances, eyes, joint movements, etc with the objectiv to score with BRADs (back rim and down or swishes)...there are literally thousands of possible DL conditions you can imagine and create to "guide" the learning experience. So let your athletes phyisically do things, get them out of their comfort zone, let them make mistakes (a lot of them) in a safe environment, let them experience and self discover the extremes and all inbetween of some "crazy" DL conditions, to shape a deeper understanding, how the body actually works and why some movements and combinations of them does not work. You would be kinda surprised how well your body is able to self-organize accordingly to the affordances and constraints of a given situation, all of that without any or very limited explicit instructions from a third person. IMO it is mandatory to understand, how learning works - not how shooting works to understand shooting.

  • @abdullahiali223
    @abdullahiali2232 жыл бұрын

    the closer i am to the basket with a defender on me the higher my set point

  • @nathanwyatt88
    @nathanwyatt882 жыл бұрын

    dammit I should've dropped my book before this video lmao. I Def agree and say there's more than one way to shoot nothing is perfect cuz if it works it works but that same shot may not work in a different situation

  • @tylerrobblee8038
    @tylerrobblee80382 жыл бұрын

    Dude pretty much said have fun 👍

  • @leoli5163
    @leoli51632 жыл бұрын

    The video every baseball player needs.

  • @pbCafe
    @pbCafe2 жыл бұрын

    Just need it to be straight and have good rotation

  • @sfasfads
    @sfasfads Жыл бұрын

    NBA players practice shooting while getting hit by people with foam bats and while getting pushed around. The newest young players need to develop baseline fundamental first. Then at some arbitrary time maybe around high school, the limits of their fundamentals and their understanding of the game should be tested. They can then develop these advanced finishing options. Don't be fooled though, the greats never abandon the fundamentals. They improve upon them. I love some of the new takes from the NBA and these channels. Things like 50 ways to finish a layup, or crossover. Pulling up perpendicular to the hoop and turning in the air. The Harden step back travel is pretty suspect, but I like that the envelope of the game is being push from all of these.

  • @crablord7934
    @crablord79342 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I just focused more and more on how to produce sufficient energy in dynamic situations the more I shoot. The "textbook form" has kinda become a background basis to go off of to just solve problems that trying to get a shot off presents. I use my legs a lot more on deeper or more lightly contested shots, while my wrists and arm upswing produce more power on middies or more contested 3s. A decent form is a base, but everything else is different for every single player and has to be explored as such.

  • @T1Oracle
    @T1Oracle2 жыл бұрын

    Consistency is important, but when the disorder of real life enters the picture, flexibility becomes more important.

  • @MeechYaboy
    @MeechYaboy2 жыл бұрын

    This is a long form topic that needs a longer explanation.. those that can shoot well always developed a perfect form first.. then branched out to add other shot variations to their arsenal.. The pros will tell you this

  • @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    @ByAnyMeansBasketball

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mentioned that in there 😬

  • @duckeeey9782
    @duckeeey97822 жыл бұрын

    well i taught my friend how to play basketball, and for beginners, they don't really know which is the best form for them, so you always have to start off with the textbook one. Great video for players who are more advanced tho

  • @absorbcontact

    @absorbcontact

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would absolutly disagree with the statement that beginners / inexperienced players have to start with the textbook form or "fundamentals" first to be able to perform a more "advanced skill" or play the game. For me its a myth and the non-linear pedagogy supports this thesis. The question to answer is: How learning really works!? Learning is first of all non-linear & messy, but at the same time also highly depends on (individual, environment, task) constraints, which combined with the perception action coupling lead to different functional movement solutions in a context. Learning means a lof of self-discovery and self-organisation in the context of the constraints and affordances of the given situation. Just remember back: How did you learn to walk, to ride a bike or to shoot a ball on a goal or catch a ball out of the air as a young kid with no clue!? I doubt your parents hired a personal coach, who gave explicit instruction how to perform the “correct technique” or "textbook form". They probably guided you and made sure your are in a save enviroment, but then give you the freedom to self-explore and try things out by yourself first - which also means you probably made a lot of mistakes and did a lot of things "technical wrong" but exactly that is the necessary part of the learning process, which leads to long term retention.

  • @duckeeey9782

    @duckeeey9782

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@absorbcontact oh for sure, you can definitely learn the shooting form by yourself, i happen to be one of them, and i thought mine was correct till i actually got a trainer, he taught me the whole form from the start and then let me build up from there myself, see what i am comfortable with and what i can do to make it still similar to the textbook one. You can say there are no “perfect shooting form”, but you have to had a foundation for beginners or else they will build a bad habit of using the more incorrect form

  • @absorbcontact

    @absorbcontact

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@duckeeey9782 I see where you coming from (reminds me a lot of myself) and i think we both can agree on that you need some sort of guidance based on common shooting principles (energy transfer, balance, follow through) while a mindful trainer gives you the freedom to self-discovery and build up your own "perfect shooting form" based on YOUR bodytype and individual constraints.

  • @jqa16
    @jqa162 жыл бұрын

    This is what I'm saying. I hsd friends way back 10 years ago their shot eas consistent until they became varsities for our HS and our coach "fixed/change" their shot which sucked ass even just playing in ball park. They can shoot 3s like nothing before until our coacj thought them the "right way"...

  • @corywittamori896
    @corywittamori8962 жыл бұрын

    It's all about experience. You can't cheat it. You have to shoot from many positions. Alot of players shoot from 5 spots beyond the 3 pt line. For most of those players that's the maximum advised. Players like curry have this sense of distance and a very consistent arch on his shot. He also transfers his momentum on his shot insanely well making him better than others when fatigued. Alot goes into shooting. The way you set your feet and control the verticality of your upper body while generating upward force with the legs and keeping the elbow straight. The whole reason you practice these mechanics is so that overtime they become natural and because they are easy to consistently repeat. Even if you lack accuracy over time it will be the precision that makes you great. This is why curry occasionally has these weird slumps but the second he makes a couple it never happened. He's just finding that muscle memory feel. Your subconscious takes over. I don't wanna be a braggart but I've scored a thirty point game on 10 shots in Aau before against some decent players. I'm by no means the best player but I was on a hot streak for a few games and I almost gave my team the boost we needed to beat a much more talented team. I've had many 20 point games on fewer than 10 shots. As a shooter that's 100 percent field goal percentage in a sense. The 3 ball is something that needs respected though. You have to let the shots come that's really the key. Also you need to simplify every set of action into single motions. Time spent shooting with poor form isnt time wasted but it is time spent less efficiently .

  • @richardcollins2622
    @richardcollins26222 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I get it but you have to master the fundamentals of shooting before you can make all these different types of shots. All these guys in the video are excellent NBA shooters. I don’t think technique is overrated for guys who don’t play at their level. You have to shoot thousand upon thousand of shots with solid fundamentals before you can be a serious threat to CONSISTENTLY make high degree of complexity shots like in this video.

  • @absorbcontact

    @absorbcontact

    2 жыл бұрын

    What are “fundamentals” and what does the term mean exactly!? The term "fundamentals" is somewhat meaningless and lacks clarity in my opinion. Everybody talks about them but at the end of the day aren't they just functional movement solutions based on constraints and affordances in the context of a given situation!? If so, why not expand the range of movement solutions for athletes as early and as often as possible to get more experience, more comfort and consistency in first place!? Besides that, the application of a technique (skill) is not just only a physical motor skill alone, because perception and decision-making play a huge role in the equation. If you don't know when to shoot, it doesn't matter if you know how to shoot. So again, what "fundamentals" exactly mean in the context of shooting and the affordances of a game situation!?

  • @victoriagodinez79

    @victoriagodinez79

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@absorbcontact Dafaq of your rhetorical

  • @absorbcontact

    @absorbcontact

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@victoriagodinez79 you don't have to agree but you should at least have tried to put arguments on the table. Too bad, missed the chance.

  • @victoriagodinez79

    @victoriagodinez79

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@absorbcontact Dafaq of your rhetorical.

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