Great! Thank goodness I stumbled this video because this was my dilemma yesterday. I am happy that nothing is wrong with my shock. 😊 By the way I just got my dvo onyx and topaz installed! Love them! 🙌😊

Guys, please do a service video for your Jade damper. I know there is a service manual on your site, but seeing it in a video would be super helpfull for a lot of people including me.

whew, was about to call on this issue lol

Most people dont have a clue about this.

I cant get my diamond 2 fork smooth like a fox 34 from 2016 is that any normal ? My fork feel pretty stiff even with 85 psi i wonder if the ott is my ptobleme because my rebound is pretty good

Hi! Thanks for the video. I have another issue regarding the jade x and I am not sure, it's related to the bladder pressure. I use the jade x with the ripmo af and I find it hard to setup the rebound damping. It feels like it kicks if I don't set it very slow. But then the bike feels a little too numb. By reducing the bladder pressure to 170 psi the issue got better but not prefect. Any suggestions? Your help is appreciated. Thanks and cheers. BTW I weigh around 80 kg.

@romansramaty1904

2 жыл бұрын

Hello. I got same feeling after first few rides. I am 100kg on Propain Tyee. Got 600lbs spring. Wondering if 650lbs and 170psi will make it less kick-isch.

Soo, does the bladder pressure chance the ramp up/ progressiveness of shock or does it chance the whole stroke? Im really confused. So on my Giant Reign with the Topaz T3 I have 30% sag but I am using quite a lot of the travel on the large jumps. Do I add bladder pressure?

@zdenda141

2 жыл бұрын

add tokens to the positive chamber. I have +5 pos. 0neg Reign 2016

Could you expand on how the bladder pressure effects the shock characteristics? I’ve got a Topaz on my Giant Reign and I’ve played with different bladder pressure and haven’t been able to hammer out what I like. I’m a heavier rider which I believe means I need more pressure in the bladder correct?

@2wot

4 жыл бұрын

More pressure=firmer is the shock on his entire stroke. If u feel your shock harsh with the good sag, decrease bladder pressure. On my topaz, i have 215 in air chamber, 180 psi in bladder. Im 88kg.

@2wot

4 жыл бұрын

The first utility of the bladder is to play on the stroke. Smooth or firm. I have to many times see users push the pressure to the max only to "prevent cavitation". It s a mistake. U can adjuste the bladder from 170 to 200 psi with no cavitation risk

@centroelettricitaspinea3422

4 жыл бұрын

I had a topaz T3 in my Ex Stumpjumper 29' , Yes Heavier and hard core riders require more pressure into bladder (less harsh bottom outs and more stable shock).

@orzoo0685

3 жыл бұрын

@@2wot Isn't that what the normal positive air pressure does? What's the difference?

@rsv4675

3 жыл бұрын

I found this review very useful when reading about the DVO topaz T3 prior to fitting mine and getting it setup Https://off.whip.live/bike/vital-mtb-3099

what affect does changing the bladder air pressure have on the Jade X? I looked on the website and there was a description of what pressure range to run but nothing on what affect this air pressure has on the shocks kinematics

@UCBearistotle

2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a reply on this

I did this and now it leaks oil from the bladder seal. Can you just change the bladder without a full service?

So are you saying that if my gauge reads 200 and I unplug the pump to plug it back in right away it reads 150 because that 50 psi is in gone into the pump and it just needs to be pumped back in?

@PanKachna

3 жыл бұрын

I need answer for this as well. Did you figured it out or not ?

@NorminkoDH

3 жыл бұрын

@@PanKachna Hey not really, I just pump until it won't take anymore air and assume I've got 200 in there.

@mosesbeaver4719

2 жыл бұрын

yes this is exactly what happens, every time you connect the pump to the shock some of the air from the shock bladder moves into the pump its self, thus lowering the shocks air pressure

A bit of a tech tip.. the air pressure will change alot with air temp changes.. like if you set it at 195psi at 45 degrees f ill be like 220 when it gets to 60 degrees

Here’s a method to prevent losing pressure into the pump (when attaching the hose to shock): Title: “How to PreCharge your Air Pump for the best Shock Adjustment”. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIh8stehXcudnrg.html Here’s what I do: When the shock pump connector is threaded on a few turns, I try adding air with 1 pump stroke. If the pressure climbs, good. If not, I turn the pump connector another half-turn onto the shock. Test again by stroking the pump. The pump will be fully sealed onto the shock surprisingly early into its engagement. It’ll require another whole turn or two before the shock’s Schraeder valve opens. As the video presenter suggests, pump the hose up to what you expect the shock pressure to be, then thread on the pump hose all the way, which opens the Schraeder valve. Then, as we say up here: “Bob’s your uncle”. And you’ll be able to tell what the shock’s internal pressure _was_ (approximately) before attaching the pump. I’m in Eastern Ontario. DVO products are superb. Thanks for all the great work there at HQ.

@Larpy1933

4 жыл бұрын

enduro-mtb.com/en/air-loss-shock-pump/ Here’s more, with a Shockwiz in the system and 15 different shock pumps tested. Bottom line: no air is lost when REMOVING the pump hose.

My bladder reads 150 or less after every ride, I ride at 190-200 lbs. I kinda find it hard to believe 50 psi is going into the pump when I attach it, my fork doesn't read 50 psi less, neither does the main air can of my Topaz...so I guess my question is....this is normal for the Topaz? If so than should I be refilling the bladder halfway through a long ride?

@JasonSmith-ns1bi

2 жыл бұрын

A common misconception about air pressure is that it is itself a direct measure of how much air there is, in actuality it is how hard the air is pushing against its enclosure (how many pounds of force are pushing against every square inch of the enclosure. In your case, lets say you have 200 lbs. of force pushing on 1 sq. inch (aka 200 psi., or 200 lbs/1 sq. in.) When you connect the pump, you're increasing the volume of the pressurized space by about 25% but keeping the same amount of actual air in the system, hence the 50 psi "loss" (or mathematically, 200 lbs./1.25 sq. in. = 160psi.). You really aren't losing any air, you're just asking the same amount of air to take up a greater amount of space and it shows as a decrease in air pressure. I intentionally oversimplified a few ideas but they weren't necessary to illustrate the point of my explanation. Also, as far as the main air can and your fork, they almost definitely have larger air volumes to start with and connecting the pump makes less of an overall difference (it might increase the air volume by 10% or less which will make a difference, just not one that you will easily measure on the gauge on your pump).

@JESSEPINKMAN74

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasonSmith-ns1bi I really appreciate your response, it makes sense! Thank you very much

@JasonSmith-ns1bi

2 жыл бұрын

@@JESSEPINKMAN74 no problem. It really isn't a difficult concept once you get it, but it's almost never explained well. Knowing the expected pressure drop when you reconnect your pump is worth knowing though since it can indicate a shock leak if it suddenly increases.

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And I thought my Jade was broken😂sold it so cheap because of that issue🤷🏼‍♂️

@developedsuspension

4 жыл бұрын

That's a bummer!

@SmileyBoy84

4 жыл бұрын

@@developedsuspension at least it doesn't happen to my Topaz 😅

How much is max lbs of pressure? Thx🤘🏼

@nicoofner85

3 жыл бұрын

200psi