These videos are awesome! Keep doing them, so informative for DIY guys like me. My house was "sitting unused" for eight years, both of my Simmons units had no hot water, but now all set, you made the repair simple I didn t spend a cent! I have the same chowowa, a female, does the same dance!

For the DIY home owners out there, I had a problem with the mixing functionality where it would get hot and cold when my wife would turn on the water when I was in the shower. We had hard water. I know Symmons will send you parts for free. However if you can get the spindle out in one piece and want things fixed right away, you can soak it in vinegar and free up the auto adjusting functionality (don't know the right terminology) and then put it back after a couple of hours. I was told that by their very good customer service. Also, it might be worth changing the washers while you are in there. If you need them, they'll send you the seats and the tool to remove them as well. I strongly agree Symmons is really good. Nice video as always Steve. Thank you!

Steve, great video and learned a lot by watching you deal with this tough one. Thanks, for all the tips that you show.

Your like curious George huh Home owner: do you mind me herr No I guess, tell her how u really feel Steve.

What a job, Steve! All your experience and know-how needed to get the seats and spindle out of there. Next level, for sure.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Richard B this one was a challange for sure

Excellent work Steve, wasn't sure it was gonna come loose or not. Great job on the video.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert Matchett man she was in there

It must be that wadder that siezed that pawt! Great job Steve as always,next level.

Thanks so much for the video Steve! I knew what to replace but seeing it on video make the process so much more approachable / predictable in person.

'You want anything to drink' 'Yeah give me a cup of gundy curious George ' lol

Steve, I was cracking up listening to you and the homeowner talking to each other. I thought y'all were going to need a translator with her NY accent and yours. Lol. Great job as usual!!!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+M Croley she was bird dogging me

Thanks for the video Steve. This reminded me that today is the day I have to do mine. Hopefully it goes a little easier than that job.

Thought the valve was going to tear out the wall when you were giving it the big Gundy! In the end, you beat it! Good job Steve!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Fireship1 holy moly a 2' cheater to make the job happen . i was not sure if it would comeout had to get her the old gundy mama lol

@stevenbernstein1978

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevenlavimoniere With that much torque, is there risk that the plumbing behind the wall could collapse before the seat gives way?

Love the video Steven. Seeing you with that round shower rack in your hand at the beginning of the video just reminded me my wife broke ours a day ago! And I thought I was the only guy that got the shit jobs!!!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Brad1237202 it was loose for sure .

I have the same symmons valves at a nursing home I work at...great vid and great patience with the owner lol

Whoa. I thought for sure something was gonna snap. Good job Steve.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+ManicMechanic007 i had to give her the old gundy mama lol

Holy shit that was a tough one great job Steve your great under pressure.

We've got those same Symmons valves at the hospital where I work, but we have good water, so they come apart pretty easy, not like that one, mama!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Chris P. i have never needed a 2 foot cheater before to get a seat out man she was on there mama

I would love to see the customers face as Steve is telling them “this is unbelievable” and calling the woman curious George, lol

Awesome Job. I thought something behind the wall was going to break. Thanks for posting!

@hvac01453

8 жыл бұрын

+efman2k3 good thing the guy who installed it secured it down good and tight, otherwise everything would have sheared off.

we use your great videos for technical training in a school!!!!!i love your educational videos!!!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+George Siatos thanks for the support

Bloody hell that was a close call, I was expecting something to give from behind before that went, I've never seen anything quite as tight as that before, you earn the your money on that job for sure lol!

Steve I was waiting to hear SNAP! Nice job

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+steve22933 snap would not be a good thing i got lucky

Steve safes the day once again great job Steve

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Benjamin Svalberg i was not sure she would come out

awesome! thank you. and your pup was the icing on the cake.

I was expecting that thing to let go all of a sudden and you to go flying through the shower wall

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+James Mclaughlin that could of happened at any time ,you never now that was the hardest seat i every had to get out so far

You talk about the good, bad, and the ugly. That one was surely ugly at first. Turned out ok. Good job. I had a seat strip on me in one of my showers. I used a 3/4 chisel ,pounded it in and used a 3/4" wrench to get it out. Didn't have an ez out that big.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Gary B maybe a 3/4 chisel sounds like a good idea as long as you can get the seat out thats what matters

Called her Curious George! 😂😂😂 I can't stand when the customer is all over my back watching 👀👀

@biggils8894

4 жыл бұрын

Andre Ware. never met a plumber I liked or could even trust. The worst trade in the industry of trades. Don’t know why these ppl are the way they are ? But they are.

oh mama, i was thinking the lines behind would give up with that much torque, that seat was in there, most plumbers would probably replace a whole fixture but you got it done, next level!

@LakeNipissing

8 жыл бұрын

+Dennis Noone Exactly... I thought the copper pipes were going to break off behind the wall. Huge nightmare!!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Dennis Noone i got lucky on this one .there was tile on back wall so changing the valve would have been a real big job

@TheBierzeit

5 жыл бұрын

@@LakeNipissing That's why I like the setup they use in Germany: that part of the piping is not in the wall-making it difficult to get at if needed, they are external, enclosed in a cabinet and easily accessible.

I HAVENT SEEN A SEAT THAT TOUGH TO GET OUT IN A LONG TIME. GOOD JOB STEVE.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+adam sanderson worst one i have ever had to get out i had a 2' cheater on #10 adjustable and had to give her the full gundy to get her out . man dear

That one was a next level gut wrencher there. Watching that one made me a tensed up nervous wreck lol.

another great job steve!!!!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+George Siatos thanks

I honestly have never seen a different shower valve, crazy!

Anytime I replace seats, I always wack seat removal tool with a hammer because not alot of bite on the seats and can strip out old seats. Good idea to put grease on end of spindle , where handle sits on , so it’s easy to remove in future.

Wowzers that was great! That's why your vids are awesome Steve!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Lex Vance mama she was on there had to give her the old gundy mama

@johnboykin3128

6 жыл бұрын

steven lavimoniere thought the valve body would sheer off the framing with the 150 torque foot pounds ....

Great video. Thx. I changed the spindle on the identical Temptrol model A in my shower as my handle was corroded also. No leaks with the new one. PROBLEM: Im getting hot water in the cold water position. Water goes from hot to warm to hot again. I doubled checked and I have good cold water pressure. I reinstalled twice just to make sure I installed the spindle correctly. Any suggestions? Is it possible to have a bad new spindle?

With my luck, the whole valve assembly would have twisted off the studs in the wall and kinked/broken the solder connections. I wonder if one of those electric impact drivers would have worked with less stress on the assembly? Great video.

You definitely don't bite your tongue. I love it. It is so annoying to have someone watching your every move while you work.

Great job as always, must admit I was a little nervous on that one, lol.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Rick Karns i was getting a bit nervous my self

Impressive I would have attempted to sell a whole valve replacement. I thought I was good.. Your good..

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Adrian Medina problem way tile on back wall so it could of gotting ugly fast on this one

You have to appreciate all the “holy shit’s”👌🏼

What luck. If i use a cheater, it`s to break it most times. Fantastic video and audio, Steve

Holy cow mama, that was a frigging tough one! How do you like those Symmons Valves? I don't see many of them here in NJ, I see mostly Moen around here in Central NJ.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Pete Ciallella i like the symmons valves there nice i am not a big fan of moen but do work on them also

when that lady asked you if you wanted anything to drink you shoulda said a beer after that one! good job Steve

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason the Plumber i was going to say that but did not

Lmfao The Patches Are Great!!! I Almost Pissed Myself!!! Shes Next Level!!

Tough one for sure. Did she ask you if you needed something to drink? Yeah, vodka sour and make it a double! I liked how you used a cheater on the ajustable.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Deknikker i was going to say a hard drink i need

Cool Thanks Steve

Where did you get the 3/4" extractor from?

pipes like that is what we call breaker bars at work, certainly do have a few uses

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+fastzombie1 i could of never done this one with out that 2' cheater

Epic job, I thought you were going to pull the valve off the stud with all that leverage you were putting on it. I would have gave up b4 you did.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Padovani man i got lucky with this one

would a little yellow gas in there have also worked to heat it up?

Steve what is the name of the tool you used to remove the larger seat. I have the same exact problem. 4 way tool stripped the larger seat.

Can someone explain to me how these seats get "worn out"? Just seems like they are only coming in contact with the rubber valve seal/seat, how could that wear the metal seats? Or, is it just the corrosive water and rust that messes up the seats?

well done. the guys around here would say "i have to go get a part" and never come back

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+rust blade lol just take off and leave her hanging

Good job Steve I new you would prevail

I like the Super Lube synthetic silicon with Teflon...not only great with washers...but dielectric as well for the fine threads and handles...because the next guy might be me!!!

What size of screw extractor did you use?

You were really cranking on that thing. Is it possible to twist the water lines and cause a nightmare? If I had one of those valves, I would pull it apart every 5 years to avoid this. Nice work.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+bg147 any thing is possible i had to get it out once i started or replace the valve ,i got lucky it came out

Got the same problem man. Can't get it out so I replaced just the spindle and am cranking down hoping it will seat. My wife came in and said "how are you doing hon". I said "shitty". She left and didn't return.

wow that was a tough one Steve

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Harry Dickson had to give her the old gundy mama to get her loose

Steve, when you put in the outer seat you said " put on a little bit of dope" did you mean grease? I don't think that you want dope inside the valve.

great channel. even better when you take his accent and imagine it's Wiseguy Plumbing and all his clients are in witness protection.

What is that ""Plan B" tool? Would love to get one...

New to your site. Can't believe you've been doing these for six years. I've got a Symmons problem. HELP!!

Nice job and video

Thought you were going to rip the panel up trying to get the seat out. Was that a four way seat wrench you used to reinstall the seat? Thanks for that video it was a nail biter.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Phillip Groom www.ebay.com/itm/Raven-R1241-Wrench-For-Symmons-Tool-1-4-Inch-3-4-Inch-/222061810404?hash=item33b3ea52e4:g:GVsAAOSws4JW8XZL

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+steven lavimoniere www.ebay.com/itm/Symmons-T-35A-B-RP-Hot-And-Cold-Seat-Removal-Tool-/321924797133?hash=item4af43692cd:g:~ycAAOSwB4NWzRcp

Reminds me of oil canister on my rav4...after 2 year dealer servicing....had to use floor jack arm to get it off... and a hell of a lot of effort.. me I use a torque wrench to factory specs...duh.. like 4 attempts...grrrrr.

Good job!

LOL calibrated to a two foot cheater bar. GJ Mr. Lavimoniere!

Hi, isn't that the same job as was the bad leak from the black plastic pipe?

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Sixta16 yes it was

Seemed like every plumbing project I tackle. I bet the guy who installed it originally didn't use plumbers grease.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+vinceleto it come installed from the factory in the box unless you replace them there will be no grease used

how you spell that lmao good job Steven that was tight got to love those home owners lol thanks so much for sharing

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Darren Skinner yea how do you spell seat . lol

I had one much worse than that on a Moen valve, I even had the special tool that Moen sells. ended up drilling it out piece by piece, 6 hrs later.... It was my own home, if it was a customer, I would have just replaced it all, but, it was my own time, so... It took 22 years to fail, so if this goes another 22 years I likely won't be here to have to deal with it. How long would that have taken to R&R the whole thing? Oh, .....do you propress now? A plumber at the supplyhouse was showing me his Milwaukee hand held battery powered press tool, compared to the Ridgid corded I use....what a difference...

Once I tried to wrench it out a couple of times... “You need a new shower valve, mama.”

The hulk must have put that in.

Nice one good job your a symmons man

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+theCybershot123 i do work on a lot of them

Steve do you have a lot more of the Symmons shower valves up your way than the other brands?

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Evan Christon yes we do have a lot of symmons valves

@JP-kk5vw

6 жыл бұрын

Symmons is located in Braintree, MA. Local Co. Cheapest Mofo's ever!

Steve kicked that shower valves ass! lol

She's a tough one mama!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+TIKIMAN198 yes for sure a tough one

OK, well I'm glad to meet someone who has rotten luck like I do! I love your colorful vocabulary also, sounds very familiar...That outer seat sure was stuck. I am wondering how you didn't rip that housing out of the wall or break the pipes while removing it with the pipe extension.....Well, I am learning more about these symmons valves watching you, but am wondering what messes up those brass/metal seats? Just seems like there is only the rubber seat/washer rubbing on those brass/metal seats, no way the rubber could do that. Were the rubber seats on the mixing valve messed up badly/missing? Surely not trying to dispute your findings, just trying to better understand how this valve works and how the metal seats could get messed up...I am trying to help out a neighbor who is in a bad way, his shower drips badly. I bought the $50 mixing valve, and am sure hoping I don't have to attack those seats! I will surely check to make sure the head pipe isn't loose/cracked causing a leak, and will look at the diverter valve also...Wish me luck, I don't want to make things any worse!Thanks for the experienced tips...

Hit the extractor with the hammer with sharp blows then It would act like an impact wrench. Or put an extended handle about 3 or 4 ft on that wrench you give you a far more torque

How much is that to repair?

steve lav's workin' again mama

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+chinabuffet123 lol yes he is

I was exhausted just watching you...lol. Great job!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Don Burton i was lucky to get her done

Is this the same place that was full of black mold in the basement due to a leak at the pressure tank?

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+REWYRED yes same place

What a good brand them pipe removers to get I ahure could use a set

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+dennis burgess they make bigger sets of easy outs i would try ebay thats were i got mine i have all sizes in truck

@dennisburgess2452

8 жыл бұрын

+steven lavimoniere thanks for info

she's a tight one Mama!.

I have had good luck using a impact driver to remove corroded parts like that and maybe some heat also.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+kwd57 i uaslly do not have this type of trouble getting the seats out

Curious George, hahaha, too funny!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Nate Stenger yea she was

Awesome ending with the doggy lol.

I laughed out loud when you said to her "what are you, Curious George"? LOL.... thats the same house with all that mold, with that pipe you repaired, seems like these people let the house go to pot!

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+hllywd964 yes same house

Helpful, though thumbs up for the doggy dance!

do you think a cordless impact gun would have made that come out easier?

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+David Mack not sure how i would hook it up to the 3/4 easyout lol i have never had to use a 2' cheater before to get a seat out man great for the movie i would say

@mackd654

8 жыл бұрын

+steven lavimoniere those 12 point sockets fit on those square plugs so should work on extractor also...just thought maybe for next time....I thought that you were going to twist up that valve body or the copper piping putting that much effort into it...good job Steve!!!

@stephenzevetchin

6 жыл бұрын

Same trouble here. Where is that 3/4" extractor available from?

@theotheraccount4297

6 жыл бұрын

David Mack/ Mackdfixings thanks for the idea it worked wonders. The dang thing was ready to rip out of the wall with manual tools. A quick ta ta tat and it spun off with the 1/2" impact. Took a bit of grinding to get the tool into a socket but it worked so much better.

@joemcgrath978

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevenlavimoniere Hi Steve, That was great work. So you used a 3/4 easyout with a 2' cheater on the first seat, I couldn't see what you actually used on the 2nd smaller seat to get that out, was that another easyout? couldn't really see it other than the end you put the wrench on looked tapered.

That a tough ALL the way. Just like all my so-called 3 minute jobs!!!!! Curious George...down here it's called Birddogging

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Chowdy Chopz lol birddogging i will have to use that one

when i come back i wanna be this lil fella..

How much would a job like that cost the customer?

Sometimes heating it with a torch loosens things uo

where could I buy that seat puller wrench?

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+scg721 i get them at the plumbing supply company www.ebay.com/itm/Raven-R1241-Wrench-For-Symmons-Tool-1-4-Inch-3-4-Inch-/222061810404?hash=item33b3ea52e4:g:GVsAAOSws4JW8XZL

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+scg721 www.ebay.com/itm/Symmons-T-35A-B-RP-Hot-And-Cold-Seat-Removal-Tool-/321924797133?hash=item4af43692cd:g:~ycAAOSwB4NWzRcp

A little bit of Fritz,nice dig.

@stevenlavimoniere

8 жыл бұрын

+Bernard Sobbe true statment

Surprised you didn't break something loose in the wall on this one...

sounds like mrs constanza askin if ya want a drink