Long ago I decided to use multiple DAWs, because, why not? So I use FL studio primarily for 90% of things and Studio One only when I need to score orchestral material for trailers and film related projects. I used Ableton in the past when I was playing in clubs and FL Studio didn't have performance mode. Also used Protools for foley editing (awful job BTW, protools is great for that) I just take the strength of each when I needed it.

I'm really happy with studio one 5. I don't know how do we can buy the studio one 6, If the trial version is not released.

I totally agree with you I needed more features like containers for sound design.

Could they add live loops when they upgrade to 6.5, or other updates?

Just like with 5 they came out with some good things but then the updates made it really good. I think the same will happen. I like the new mixing capabilities. Workflow is everything.+

@dezinerAhmad

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully they do it .... it would be Great ... I am very loyal to SO

@Realliedoe

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I still think it’s a solid update

Studio One is very friendly and the screen is very very simple to look at not busy at all. Fender has a way of messing DAWs up. I hope not because there is no other DAW that I would want.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

I hope so too!

@thedevilsadvocate5210

Жыл бұрын

The iPad remote feature is pretty good

thanks for the video. i just purchased s1 and coming from pro tools im like this is by far the most simplest and user friendly daw ive used. it has a small learning curve and its only taken me a week to get up and running the way i like to work and one thing i had to realize is that this is not pro tools. it has the pro tools shortcut keys and i selected it but i changed it back to s1 because im like i need to learn s1 shortcuts and now that im learning them they are much better to me. not sure what the ceo is talking about but i love it just the way it is as a new user. i will never go back to pro tools.

I’m also on the fence too about upgrading from Studio One 5. Not sure yet if the new features are worth the upgrade for my needs as version 5 still does what I need. I certainly disagree with the Fender CEO saying Studio One is difficult or even complicated. I wouldn’t say it’s the most intuitive, but not at all complicated. I’ve got several DAWs in use currently, and IMO one of the easiest and most underrated is MixCraft 9 Pro Studio by Acoustica.

I was hoping for live loops with great midi foot controller support (ideally Morningstar) so that S1-6 would be the best guitar looper ever. Detect the beat and auto smooth the loop points, great effects chains on tap, etc. Seems like a natural integration to me, Fender. I do like the UI updates, not huge but very nice.

Great video. I agree with you, I would also expect them to have a live looping feature. If they can't develop a decent live looping tool, then they should at least include Ableton Link to use both DAWs together and get the best of both worlds. This has been highly requested for a long time.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Good point, Rod! Thanks for that 👍

@LeoBercoff

Жыл бұрын

They can be syncronized by Rewire.

@RodKruz

Жыл бұрын

@@LeoBercoff by doing that you can't get any audio into Live and feed the Looper.

I started using Studio One 2.5 years ago. I really like it but I have a free copy of Ableton Live Lite 11 from buying a new Arturia midi keyboard. I plan to learn it to see if it’s worth it to upgrade to a better version. I think in modern music it makes sense to work with multiple DAWs to change things up.

being honest I just love studio one,the workflow is the best in all daws,its the fastest plus my songs come out more cleaner and it has many features I dont find anywhere else,another thing is they have different stuff with it,the sphere,

does Fender CEO actually use studio one??

I have been Studio One since SO3 and am trying out the Demo version of Studio One 6 and I am hella impressed, the new workflow is really nice as it simplified it. My cousin recently swapped from ProTools to Studio One 5 Professional in his studio after trying out Studio One 4 on my laptop. He says it just works, and does it better. My other cousin who writes operas composes on paper and when it comes to finishing it and finalizing it, he uses Presonus Notation and Studio One. He composed his grammy nomination in it.

@LeoBercoff

Жыл бұрын

Yes, from v.3 to v.5.2 there's been a great improvement. But from v.5 to v.6, which is supposed to be a large improvement, it's really a very poor update (and also quite expensive!)

I find it easy to listen to what you say, really educational! Thanks! I would be delighted if you could make really short informational videos, like how to do various basic things when working with Studio One, for real beginners and people like me who love to do it but don't understand how to use the program to the fullest. Like when you're in the middle of the process and just need to know one thing quickly to be able to continue working, if you understand! For example, I want to learn how to reverse a crash or a piece of a vocal track, or how to save your favorite sounds in a separate folder. There are far too many chatty videos that never get to the heart of the matter, take forever to watch and then you still haven't learned anything! As long as this post-thanks for the word!😃

I saw some comments on this video that corrected you and explained that Studio One 5 already has automation on project page and live looping features. I don't see them anymore. Do you delete comments from people that clarify misinformation in your videos? Cheers, Lukas

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

You're right, someone did comment about that. And initially, I kindly replied. I mentioned that I made a mistake, I overlooked the fact that automation had already been implemented on the project page. And I also mentioned that this person was wrong about live looping features (clip launching); that still has not been added to S1. But this person kept sending comments that were not so nice. To me that is herassment, so yes I blocked this person.

@studioonetutorials

Жыл бұрын

@@SupercyMusic Well, there's indeed clip launching functionality on Studio One's Show Page. - Different playback modes (continue section, loop section, loop & continue, stop at and, skip) - Sync Modes (1 Bar, 2 Bars, Section etc.) - Custom actions (cue next section, cue section X, toggle loop/continue, stop at end of bar, next patch) - Patches (effect changes, activate/mute track, instrument patch changes) - Remote apps for Windows, Mac, iOS, Android Not even Ableton Live or Bitwig Studio provide that out of the box. So in case you're talking about live performance, I wonder what exactly you're missing.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

@Lukas Ruschitzka All great features, but not exactly what I mean. There still is no way to record individual instruments into a "clip" in real time and then playback those clips (individually), like is possible in Ableton, Bitwig, Logic etc. The show page is truly amazing. And with (among other things) the features you just mentioned it seems like a relatively small step to also implement the features I'm looking for. Which makes it all the more disappointing to me that they didn't. And as I mentioned before, if they would add those features, Studio One would be the absolute king of live performance imo.

Hi! What about all of us joining to ask for that Live loops?

Nice vid man. Of course it depends what you want. I rarely use live looping but was waiting a long time for decent implementation of a proper video timeline feature. V6 has delivered and it was perfectly timed. I’ve been using Logic and it let me down badly (not for the first time) by failing on a project I was about to deliver. For some reason you cannot access the autosaves unless you’re already IN the project! So, having used Pro Tools, Cubase, Nuendo, Studio One, Reaper and then Logic….. thanks to v6 I’m now back with S1 again. I also love Reaper but only for specific stuff, not day to day creating. Anyhoo, all I’m saying, horses for courses my friend.

It seems like people are kind of split on the live looping workflow. Personally I never understood it but I guess a lot of producers love it. There’s always Ableton

this upgrade was a way to make money for the New company 😀😀😀

Studio One is very close to perfect and it's very user friendly. We do need need 10.1 Surround Sound built in. These updates are not major updates for us that's been using S1 since version 1.5. There's no other DAW that compares to S1 with an easy drag an drop workflow and that sounds the way S1 does.

Totally agree with you 👍

I’m just Loving Reaper

I absolutely love S1, Been using it since 2013 or so. This update I would have liked to see more but I do like what i'm seeing specially the visual updates. Thee are still some big features they should & could add that even I myself have tried to tell them about & help with. Hopefully 6.1 / 6.5 adds a bunch of crazy new features that I think they are working on for it already now but just wanted to get the base 6 out.

The problem with SO6 is that it doesn't feel like a new version. It feels more like one of those major updates, so if you stay with SO5 you do not miss a lot. You could wait for some updates for the new version. Usually Presonus delivers with those.

@kadiummusic

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

I've had it sitting on my hard drive for 2 days as I'm a Sphere member I've not got round to opening it says it all, really

what sux is the fact that we even have to think long and hard about upgrading. it should be a slam dunk on that since we are already S1 users but its not and thats the scary part. ive been lookiing at different DAWs too!

The simplification of StudioOne seems to have come through in the templates and the ability to limit what relevant functions you see in different workflows. I think that's a great compromise because they didn't dumb-down StudioOne at all, they just made it optionally cleaner to interact with.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Good point, makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that!

@ripperthecrooks6428

Жыл бұрын

Ableton live is so much better for electronic music production. Faster workflow , better sound imho.

@thedevilsadvocate5210

Жыл бұрын

DAWs have there own sound?

This was a good one

I know who will not be leaving S1. I’m here for life!!! This product is amazing. Every DAW has had releases that disappointed people. Give Fender a chance to listen to the community. If they fail, then I’ll reconsider. Until then, it’s the 1st of version 6. Chill!!!!!

Hi, I’m curious what you would go to. Since you seem to be interested in live looping, I assume you’re looking at Ableton Live? As far as the Fender CEO’s comments, I would think making it simpler would be a way for newbies (like me) to be able to get up and running more quickly (like training wheels). Then, when you are comfortable lettIng go, have the full SO capabilities available. I don’t know, but that’s what I’d imagine. No DAW will be perfect for anyone. They do seem to have a dilemma between adding features and ease of use. Personally, I like what SO is doing, but everyone has their own preferences in features and workflow and I am interested in other perspectives. Thanks!

Totally agree. I think live looping should be standard with the top daws in 2022. Ableton, Bitwig and Logic has it. Once you realize how helpful it is in a creative or songwriting workflow, it’s hard to use a daw without it.

@MaximusWhyman

Жыл бұрын

Also, channel overview is a feature they stole from Cubase, again. 😂

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

@Groove_Balloon When I talk about live looping features I think of the clip launching features in Ableton or Bitwig. What exactly do you mean with live looping?

@MaximusWhyman

Жыл бұрын

@@SupercyMusic Sorry, yes that’s what I meant.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@MaximusWhyman I didn't know about the channel overview being "stolen" from Cubase. Thanks for pointing that out 👍

@novakillbones2140

Жыл бұрын

@@SupercyMusic If they put that stuff into Studio One, I'd probably go back to Cubase because I can't see how it wouldn't make future updates an even bigger waste of money. I like Studio One because it is focused on the way I like to work and I'd hatye to see development spread even more thinly than it is now. I ditched Bitwig because it was focused on workflows that are completely meaningless to me and I knew Id' only get useful new features by accident.

guys studio one has over 200 gb of its own sounds and plugins the ones you see there are just the default coming with installer

I fully agree with ya 😎

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Totally agree with all your thoughts on this. S1 still a great DAW but this update offers next to nothing to anybody but the casual user. For anybody who’s been mixing for a while this gives almost nothing. I’ll be sticking with S1 but not upgrading.

studio one is simple to use,thats why I chose it,I use it with ableton,reason and logic but its my home daw,coz it has alot of good workflow and my songs come out crisp and clean in studio one,ableton and logic make cool beats for me,but mixing and mastering and vocals I run back to studio one

Thank you for your fair assessment of Studio one 6. I started with this Daw about 4 months ago and find it one of the easier ones to work with and build tracks. This new release was kept quiet until it’s release. It looks more like a Studio 5.6 rather than a new platform. I am also “underwhelmed” with this new offering. In addition having to fork out another $150 after purchasing the professional version so recently seems unfair. I contacted PreSonus and they told me too bad we don’t have any grace periods. Poor business model. I also purchased Cubase at the same time which did upgrade me to their new, really upgraded 12 at no cost. I will spend more time learning this platform before upgrading and giving more money to PreSonus.

I was so hoping for a decent color pallet, that alone would have been enough for me to upgrade, but I havent seen a single thing that can get me enthousiastic and considering the upgrade price...

Would be nice to hear you opinion about the new Bitwigs's add-ons policy. It feels like they fooled us.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

I just happen to have recorded a video on that; I'll post that later today 😉👍

I agree I have studio one 6 but merely to open up people projects ...nothing can replace my Protools Ultimate with HDX...power of this animal can spoil anyone

its all about the sound

3:34 - The Channel Overview isn't a new concept either. I'm a Cubase user and we've had our Channel Settings-feature since 2014 which is exactly this. In Cubase we have the built in channel strip processers (like compressor, deesser, EQ, tape emulation and more) on top of the regular settings you find in Studio One's Channel Overview however.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Many people have commented about this. I didn't know, so thanks, Samuel 👍

It does need to be stripped-down & simplified. They also need to update the Mojito synth with an extra oscillator & some EDM presets & a supersaw waveform

You should try ableton live for live looping.

Same boat!!! 6 was the proof they are focused on song writers where I’m an electronic producer…. Here we go… BITWIG

@jeffreyhanc1711

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I do like S1's backend Mix/Master flow better than Bitwig's. But for the front-end electronic - sound design POV, Bitwig feels more like home, and definitely more inviting to tweaking. May use both for a while...

I agree with everything you said so I found Reper to be my choice 👌

I feel you! Studio one is user friendly already..But the features are really basic compared to other DAWS...Im not impressed at all.The workspace in the mix zone is too congested, 1st note of a bar being recorded on dissapears also pitch bend data does not record at times for example..I expected those issues fixed and more for real.

I mean they did make the largest actual improvement they have made in generations. Most changes since, well, at least version 4 has been incremental. They have almost exclusively been nice performance improvements but not really filling holes. Now we can actually score to video. That is an actually new thing we can do. Before, there just wasn’t a workflow that made that feasible. Now we just need surround sound integration for v7

Update the studiolive series digital mixers geared more towards studio use like the first generation was

I wanted updated and better virtual instruments. I wanted better loop libraries whose dynamic aren't crush to bits dynamically. I may start looking into logic or cubase.

@makximumlive

Жыл бұрын

Try Cubase 12...

@MabawaVocal

Жыл бұрын

studio one has alot of virtual instruments,over 200 gb,do you have presonus sphere?

Completely agree with you! And personally i won't be so humble and I'll say that this "new version" sounds like a mockery. And all this false enthusiasm "it's awesome, amazing!!!" and all this stuff is so annoying! When they try to present the de-esser and dynamic eq and integrated lyrics as "wow" it's ridiculous!

I'm a long time S1 user and have loved it since I started using it with V2. But, I totally agree with you. It was a very disappointing upgrade! It does feel like a minor update rather than a major upgrade! No Dolby, no live sequencing with show page, etc.

Thanks for your opinion. When you find that perfect DAW, please let me know, even with that perfect DAW. I have some features that perfect will not have. I am a Studio One user, and many features are helpful in my productions. I have almost all DAWs for windows, but I keep returning to Studio, where six of my albums have been made available on streaming services. I believe more features are coming soon, like adding CLAP (CLever Audio Plugin), as U-He, Bitwig, and many others, using open source format as a standard for developing their liberal licenses. CLAP is open source and released under the MIT license: No fees, memberships, or proprietary license agreements are required before developing or distributing a CLAP-capable host or plug-in, and the license never expires. In a nutshell, there are no entry hurdles for developers, and plenty of open source projects already benefit from CLAP. Be encourage.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, Jerome! I haven't made up my mind yet about what DAW to use as my main DAW. Your comment makes a lot of sense, I'll definitely take it into consideration 👍

video track nails it for me. i could live with v6 for a long time, no matter what Fender does.

I’m happy with S1 5. As with every other product I own, I won’t upgrade without a reason. So, if none of the new features have value to me, I’ll keep my money and my complaints to myself.

Hi Percy! Ich finde dein Statement sehr gut. Es fühlt sich so an, als ob Presonus im Moment nicht das Power-Upgrade von Version 5 auf 6 geliefert hat... Es fehlen neue Funktionen, die sich Pro-Producer gewünscht hätten. Ich muss nebenbei noch mit Cubase arbeiten, da meine Zulieferer (noch) sehr viel mit Cubase arbeiten. Aber ich produziere am liebsten mit SO, vor allem wegen des ausgezeichneten Workflows. Ich wünsche mir, bzw. ich hoffe, dass Presonus (Fender) mit den Zwischen-Updates noch so einiges nachliefern wird. Meine drei größten Wünsche sind: 1. Spurliste (Arrangement-Fenster) teilen, das heißt: Man kann die Spurliste (Arrangement-Fenster) in eine obere und eine untere Spurliste aufteilen. Für diese Spurlisten sollen unabhängige Zoom- und Scroll-Funktionenen verfügbar sein. Das Aufteilen der Spurliste wäre z. B. sinnvoll, wenn Sie eine Midi, oder Audiospur immer im Blickfeld haben möchten. Sehr geil bei Midispuren (man hat sein Piano immer in Reichweite!!! Genauso bei Audiospuren, wenn man zum Beispiel sporadisch einen Referenztrack hören muss... 2. Besseres Colormanagement. Die jetzigen Farben sind bis auf wenige Ausnahmen einfach viel zu blass, dadurch ist die Selektierung der Events im Arrangement-Fenster meist nicht erkennbar. 3. Konsole. Die Konsole ist trotz genialer Skalierungsmöglichkeiten zu starr. Ich würde mir wünschen, dass zum Beispiel BUS-Kanäle in der Konsole besser sichtbar wären. Okay, das kann man mit dem bescheidenen Farben machen, aber stellt Dir vor, Du kannst ausgewählte Kanalzüge entsprechend in der Breite verändern. (Ein guter Programmierer schafft das... 😉) Auch eine teilbare Konsole (á la Cubase) wäre genial. Beste Grüße aus Berlin.... Wolf

Reaper has this. Ableton has that and DAW XX has this... Im A S1 User. Im also a Logic User. And a Maschine User. With every Update comes features that I can daily use. If anyone want live looping and a good daw. Choose Logic or Ableton. But for my case - I love the workflow that comes with S1 and I like the new features that comes with 6. And by the way... Any DAW User has tons of plugins. All my Pals using Farbfilter for all - not me. Using the Stock EQ's in Logic and in S1 too... I don't need the new Icons for tracks... But I need the Video-Track and all the other stuff. Have a nice day.

I've always considered a DAW as being the digital equivalent of a recording studio not a live instrument. If you want live looping isn't that what products like Ableton is for? I think Presonus has to decide who they want to prioritise, serious recording/production musicians or DJ style 'looping' producers because I don't think ultimately you can do both. Maybe they could have a separate Studio One product for the latter... S1DJ?

I left S1 as soon as Fender bought Presonus. Loving Cubase 13! Presonus has great hardware, but S1 seems done. 6 definitely had very little to offer.

I agree they haven't kept up with what works for me personally and the new version was lackluster to me.

I am already making noob beats with this software and feeling good :) ❤

My thoughts exactly Supercy. I like the new features but was expecting something different and more unique. First time after major update that I was feeling not so exited. Also little bit worried about that Fender boss thoughts. I used logic before but it went too much garage band for me. Still great DAW but I wont like studio one to go that road.

@janipuotiniemi

Жыл бұрын

Ok. Now I have used version 6 more and it's still my opinion that not much new tech stuff there but I have to say I really like the new Studio One. New features really improve my workflow and customising work space and other stuff is much more in action than on paper. I was not going to leave SO because there is no real option for me but now I'm happy with it. I was expecting something else but end up getting things that's more use to me. Well done.

Still no root pitch detection in their sampler.

Call me crazy, but I consider DAWs to just be one tool of the many tools required to make good music. The main question should always be "how much good music is being made?" It's good to keep in perspective that there were hit songs made with 4 track reel to reel tape recorders back in the day. The reason I switched over to Studio from Pro Tools is because PT was getting in the way of me making good music. I found too much of my energy spent trouble shooting system crashes, trying to make non Avid hardware compatible with Avid, uninstalling forced updates that were incompatible with PT, etc. I can live without a few of the shiny new features as long as the DAW just works, and gets out of my way and let's me make music.

I was initially unimpressed with the Studio One 6 update, and I considered just moving to Bitwig as my main DAW (but you know what's up with that, just saw your other video). Back to Studio One... as a long time user, I went ahead and updated to v6, and I gotta say, I really like a lot of the new stuff. That lyric track quickly became something I don't want to live without. Fader flip is insanely useful as well. Bottom line, is I'm 100% staying with Studio One, and not just because of the recent Bitwig debacle. I actually JUST bought Bitwig less than two weeks ago. I'm a very new user, so this new Bitwig drama has me really rethinking that move, but I love the DAW, so I'm torn. I've decided to just use Bitwig as is as a secondary DAW and creative tool, and probably just never update again. But, yeah, Studio One, still killer. Don't give up on them. This is a solid update. Not flashy, maybe not exciting, but it's still a rock solid linear DAW with a zillion bits of goodness packed inside it.

@Barncore

Жыл бұрын

What's the bitwig drama, just out of curiosity?

@BlackDragonStudio

Жыл бұрын

If you can keep your Bitwig copy, and in a few years when Studio One 7 comes out, use cross-grade to upgrade.

@MrStupidHead

Жыл бұрын

what Bitwig debacle? if you mean bitwig deciding to give away what they were considering an ancillary product (and IMHO they were entirely correct) for free - then I wouldnt call that a debacle. It was a rarely seen customer gift. Would you rather get something cool for free (Bitwig) or some lame stuff you don't even want for money? But I really like and use both products. Just enjoying my Bitwig now - a bit more than my previous main lover. I hope they both prosper.

BTW also you got my subscribe.

Well, every DAW is very good in something. In my opinion S1 ist the best DAW for mixing and mastering. And if you want something good for production, then Ableton Live is your choice. Is hard to find a DAW that is good in everything, quick ideas, productions, mixing, mastering, user friendly and so on, that's why almost everyone that I know uses 2 ore 3 DAWs, one for productions and one for mixing and so one. I use Ableton Live for production and S1 for mixing and mastering and after I tried all the DAWs on the market, I think that these are the best choice. Btw, I tried Reaper, I kinda liked it but I found it way to complicated. I mean you need years just to customize your workflow and time is money, we don't have so much time just to add plugins and customize, we just want a DAW that's user friendly, has almost everything and is good to go.

@SupercyMusic

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Manuel! That makes a lot of sense 👍

I'm jumping to S1's father (Cubase)...

The Studio one update from version 3 to version 4 is the best and biggest in my opinion. All these new features should already be in version 5. I use Ableton alongside studio so it's not worth upgrading for me.

My observation - there is no DAW which has all 3 of these: notation, chord track and live looping. With extentions, REAPER comes the closest.

If you want a simplfied version of Studio One just get Mixcraft Pro Studio can't get any easier to use than that. Why nor use Mulab 9 as a plugin to give live looping in studio one? The daw can function as a plugin within other daws and has excellent live looping.

my brother says repper is the way to go but i use studio one why dont just stick to repper and stop wining

You gotta try it man…I thought I was gonna be disappointed until I got it. It’s a dope update man.

@oinkooink

Жыл бұрын

No it's not.

@johnhill762

11 сағат бұрын

@@oinkooinkYeah, definitely not. Hard to even call it an “update”.

Studio one's the best you'll ever get

Feels lightweight for a new version I agree looks like Fender have inserted the first nails in the coffin

I saw a leak that cubase 13 will have live looping

I fully agree with you on the lack of new real features introduced into this update. However, the new features are important and the thing I especially like, also because I asked for that thing a while ago, is the new interface! Finally, too much square interface is overcome.

@johnhill762

11 сағат бұрын

There is no “however”. It’s a bad update. Full stop.

The developers of Studio One cut their teeth working for Steinberg, which was the inventor of the VST platform. Imho, Cubase Pro 12 is Leaps And Bounds ahead of Studio One and has many of the features in Studio One 6 updated for many years. YOU STILL CAN MAKE QUALITY MUSIC IN PRACTICALLY ANY FULL FLEDGE DAW! If It Works For You Then Stay With It.

I own about 10 DAWS...Studio One I use primarily for mastering...it has a great audio engine...but for song construction I prefer Reaper or cakewalk...also mixcraft seems pretty intuitive

Perhaps S1 moving a bit forward to be a Mixing Engineer's favorite.!

missing so many things in demo version.. scales to choose from the scales menu in dropdown.. i will not spend money on over simplistic Daw that lacks so many things.. getting upset as i walk through the feautures😊

If you think the latest Studio One upgrade is "underwhelming" pour your heart and soul (and money, money, money) into Reason. YIKES! Talk about disappointment. Reason Studios has been promising Native Apple M1 compatibility for a couple of years now, and, finally, it works with Rosetta and...who cares? With Studio One 6, I admit, I've never needed or wanted track/channel icons. The vocoder is a yawner and I've had FabFilter for dynamic EQ and de-essing for some time. I don't know that I've ever opined for a Channel Overview. We'll see. Still, having tried all of the DAW's (except Pro Tools which is beyond the strain on my pocketbook), Studio One still rises to the top for me. And, yes, I upgraded, knowing that when that one day comes around when I need one of the new features (surprise of surprises) it'll be there for me. Besides, underwhelming seems to be kinda the new normal with upgrades. The 21st century appears to have unleashed a raging "meh" factor.

People sleep on cakewalk bandlab but they had a lot of features a decade ago

Channel overview is on Cubase

I love S1 but that Fender CEO's comment amplifies a growing feeling I've had for a while: it feels more and more like an unwelcoming place for electronic-sound design musicians. I still love the workflow for backend mixing and mastering and cannot see abandoning it anytime soon. But if Leo Fender II (or whoever is the king here) wants to make it the next Garage band or safeplace for tech-fearful classic rock guitarists, I'll try a DAW like Bitwig. Perhaps it's a better less-corporate fit... Peace

@santaclaus3175

Жыл бұрын

The CEO didn't say he wants to simplify Studio One, he said he wants a simplified version of Studio One, a la Garage Band. Which is not the same.

I really like S1, but I think it's fair to say that it wasn't created with some genres in mind.

It was a mid update. I was hoping for session/live loops as well, that along with some more production tools like a new (granular or modular) powerful synth, updated reverb and some MIDI editing on the same par as FL🤷🏾‍♂️ idc about a fader flip, idc about some track icons, and I make my own templates. Mid update for sure

The Fender president’s comments were specifically directed toward “Artist”, not Professional.

I get the same feeling from this video that I get from some posts on Facebook. Which is "really? That's your reasoning for leaving?". For example: They added track presets, that's great, but there is a DAW that already had that. Seriously? So you wait for that because you want it, then when it is there (and most other DAWs don't have it even) that's when you become disappointed? Weird reasoning. That seems like being critical for the sake of being critical. And as you can see in the comments, someone who did upgrade found that by using the new features they showed how useful they actually are. On paper they may seem no more than ok, or even less, but when used the small thought out details show to be great workflow enhancers. Also, "underwhelming" is always something that's said on a new whole version update. Always. And it's always because people don't understand how this works. During the update cycle oif this version a lot of new features will be added with a major one at the x.5 update. Always. So from x.0 to x.5 many features are added, all included in the current upgrade. So yes, if you look at all the features added in version 5 then it may seem that version 6 had very little. But now look at version 5.0, the first one in that cycle. That shows a whole different picture. So yes, your expectations were too high, or too much that of course they should have added what you personally were asking for. Every upgrade of any software will have people disappointed because they were hoping for something specific. Then another point you brought up: "The CEO of Fender thought Studio One is too complicated". That is actually not the correct interpretation of that interview. What was said is that Fender has the vision of a very basic app for guitar players to quickly lay down ideas. More like Garage Band for example. It's about a new app, not about simplifying Studio One! This was majorly misrepresented in that interview, or rather the report of it. And you can see in this new release that this whole idea that Fender wants to simplify Studio One is completely debunked. Studio one wasn't simplified, Studio One wasn't stripped down, nothing. It had features ADDED.

I agree. I didnt update yet, studio one has come to far for just the update they are offering in 6. Where is the ground breaking stuff 🤔 studio one use to offer?

No option to turn off GPU Hw acceleration on Windows makes me skip this upgrade. Sometimes I get that hw Acceleration error and have to Restart Studio One and i know you can disable it on Mac since it causes some issues there but on Windows you have to no option to do that and makes Studio One super unreliable and unstable on my system....🤬

I m happy there is no live looping I’m also happy there is no Atmos.

@skyhawk77

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Why ? Because if Studio One had both of those things, it would make your other DAW software you bought redundant? Well that's the only reason I can think of because, what you are saying, is that you don't want Studio One to evolve and be innovative, which is quite frankly ridiculous.

@garethde-witt6433

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@@skyhawk77 I don’t consider Atmos to be innovative. I can’t stand how un natural it makes music sound😡music isn’t heard that way, and as for live looping I don’t use loops and I don’t want S1 to turn into a copy of ableton. Oh and I don’t have any other DAW software.

Are we expecting to much from S1,they are clearly behind the ball and will continue to be with that CEO in place ,.fender sales are down

Well Cubase has a version of channel overview since forever.

Cubasis had channel over viiew for ever. Fyi

I never use a daw i'm a guitarist and a composer i just search simplicity. I'm affraid of all this stuff. Can you imagine i just record with my phone and it's my son who force me to record one time in cubase. And i bout fir him the studio one licence 5. I have the licence too because it's for more than one pc and i never instal it... I was looking for a new looper but all the menus of the new boss are realy not made for me. So i came here to search answers. Maybe i will go for a daw but it should be realy simple for that i will instal it in my computer. So i don't know i'm searching the daw who will fit perfectly for me... Thank you for you video it help me to understand a little more. 😉👍

Studio one is the best DAW. Don’t ruin it Presonus

If they make studio one simpler I’m switching to pro tools💯

@Hyperlink60

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Leave it to a former Disney executive to mess up a good thing, but ain't no way I'm going back to Pro Tool. LOL

Logic has the same feature as the channel overview and it's called the inspector, a channel overview on the left side of the screen, also reaper can do this as well but it needs to be manually added. But the track record of Fender isn't good for anything outside of guitars and guitar based products like amps. They killed an IEM company a few years ago that was on its way to being a major player in the in ear monitor space by rebranding their products as Fender IEMs and making them with cheaper plastic materials and lower end drivers and balanced armatures. But I think fender wants to sell 2 input and 2 output audio interfaces and digital mixers not DAWs and their track record would show that. But I hope for the best but they have already killed most of the high end studio products like the Quantum 4848 lately and it won't be long before the studiolive mixers have a fender logo on them.

I was hoping for live looping.. But it wasn't a deal breaker for me. I have a looper and can always use Ableton for looping if that's what I want to do. That said. Just because a feature is added that was in other DAWs for years doesn't make them bad.. "Reaper had that for years" So? Good.. they added in studio one so now I don't have to change DAWs to get the feature. It's not like they said "We invented this" and we could see they simply copied it from another DAW. I don't see any DAWs copying the ease of drag and drop Studio One has but if they did I'd be like "Good.. great ideas should be copied!"

@Valgant

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Well, you're definitely right in a way. Some tiny improvements are good anyway. The point is these updates aren't major at all, they don't suit or match up to a new paid version, i mean they could have been appeared in ver. 5.2, 5.7 or so but not in a new Global updade. With all due respect to the devs.

@techguyMD

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@@Valgant They added quite a bit.. Granted just a little more would have made it seem like a full upgrade, like looping, or Atmos/surround editing. Adding the video, and lyric tracks was pretty good. Oh and when the president of Fender said he wanted it to be simplified, well it looks like 6 is simplified already. With new templates and walkthroughs to help new people get going easy. They don't need to release a light/simple version.