It’s not just “if you don’t want you don’t need to subscribe” Since Fender took over Presonus, the S1 development suddenly slowed down and all those regular updates we sort of used to from early versions just stopped. Subs will work as long as fanboys are hooked on “get everything” story, but it’s not going to last long I’m slowly moving to Cubase since v10, it’s has a learning curve, some things are similar but some very different but it is a beast of a DAW. Now, what you don’t get in S1 vs Cubase If you want to have Melodyne version that’s on par with stock Variaudio, you need to pay extra! If you want auto audio align, you need to buy vocalign etc… Cubase does this natively If you want to use external midi instruments, Cubase has Patch scripts to help you navigate trough all the patches… Cubase stock plugins are way better and you get heaps of them that Presonus would probably charge you extra for. S1 Stock sounds are mediocre and mostly unuseable, while Cubase comes with loads of high quality sounds S1 became famous for their drag and drop workflow, but Cubase is catching up on it too. At the end, Steinberg (Cubase) is under Yamaha corporation for years and has huge user base, meaning revenue which is somewhat guarantee it will be around and improved for a long time, while Studio One is under Fender, who knows what might happen If it doesn’t make whatever their CEOs have in mind, they might simply terminate it, cut down development team, etc etc… This is why I’m moving to Cubase I will continue to use current S1 version but probably no more upgrades from me unless they come up with something that is really revolutionary in next version. Also, I’m annoyed with S1 randomly freezing (not responding) Studio One is ok DAW but is not in any way the best

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

This.... All of this. This deserves to be pinned.

@eddiexx

3 ай бұрын

eeexactly. (S1 crashes maybe 1 OR 2 times a year possibly though) ill stay on 5.5.2, i have not seen anything worth it after that. and sure the problems were present already before fender even, ancient sounds, worthless addons presented as something when they should have all been easily free with the pro version just to make up for the dry prehistoric library. When you think about it the changelog 90% is all license exchanges between corporations. Poor devs and pooor dear S1, it didnt deserved to die this way... RIP

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

So many people are commenting and acting like I hate Presonus or Studio one which is not true I love studio one. I just do not like the path they are going down at the helm of Fender.

@mrrazz7178

2 ай бұрын

There ain't any "Best DAW". If you have experience in the industry than you would probably have/know multiple DAWs. Any DAW with a monthly subscription model less than $20 is good for many people out there. You could only crossgrade if you already had a pro version. So no one starting out would pay $500+ for cubase. If you have a budget of $500 use a subscription model like presonus and get 3rd party plug-ins. No stock plug-in is better than kontakt/arturia stuff or effect plug-ins.

@FlatTire

2 ай бұрын

@@mrrazz7178 That’s all subjective. I can only speak for myself and have my own reasons. $500 is not a lot even if you are starting out IMO. People start out playing music and pay more for instruments. I prefer to purchase stuff that I need and want to use, not to subscribe and have “everything” that’s not of any use to me. Besides that, subscription means eventually loosing any instrument or plugin that is sub only even if you decide to go perpetual after X amount of time, which means ending up with so many songs with unavailable plugins (I’m talking about composing/production side, not pure mixing) Imagine you open your old session and there are heaps of plugins or instruments missing?? As I said at the top, it’s not just about cheaper or “more stuff” DAW is not mobile phone service so you “have unlimited calls” even though you only make small amount of them… As for plugins, Cubase 13 is loaded with so many great ones that even “everything” in Presonus subscription is not even close Check it out

Subscription is killing software... what a stupid turn.

@LCRLive687

2 ай бұрын

they have already been on subscription for a very long time now and nothing has changed with that, and nothing has changed with the ability to buy perpetual to own. they have just added a way to subscribe and own.

Everything you said in this video is 100% spot on! I've been a Studio One Pro user since version one! This new business model makes me absolutely question the future of this company. So disappointed in Fender/PreSonus. I'm thinking about switching to Logic since I'm a Mac user.

Spot on !!!!!

I a still using 4.6, and in my opinion, until now there were no reasons for an update, though adding the new synth in this version... but... . Since I am using 3rd party synths, I think 4.6 will remain a workhorse for me. :)

Sonar Cakewalk flashbacks here. I like Studio One, but this makes me feel bad. However, I purchased the full version of Pro outright, so it would feel like a waste to bail. I'm fine sticking with 6.6 as long as it continues to work. But if I'm ever forced into the subscription, I'm done..

Saw it coming once fender took over. Stayed on studio one 5. Didn't see the point in updating to version 6. Also, I could see the updates were getting worse. As a mac user I moved to Luna. Gets me by given I don't do heavy midi. Did look at cubase 13 and its closer to studio one now, so if I was looking for something to replace studio one then cubase would be the one. I can just crossgrade. But for now I'm digging the analog vibes from Luna. Had used studio one for over 4 years. Unfortunate to see the direction its taking.

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Luna is a really fun DAW to mix and edit in. It just lacks some MIDI features for me to make it a full time DAW. But I really like seeing where it's heading and how UA are putting the work into it. They really are listening to the users, and that says a lot now days.

@joeydego2

17 күн бұрын

Im digging the analog vibes in Studio One using pipeline with actual analog gear, something Luna STILL does not do.

I didn't expect this from Studio One while their competitor is on edge with this. I kinda thought about going back to Studio One to keep tracking but I don't know I may just ditch it I rarely use it. I been heavy in Logic for tracking musicians as well as the musicians sending me Logic files to get the tracks out of then I mix and master in Pro Tools. Cubase is dope I need to go study it as well. Thanks for the vid I hope Presonus reconsider with this option...

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

I LOVE Logic pro for producing and writing music with other musicians / artists. I had a very similar workflow. I'd collaborate and produce inside of Logic for most of the music then switch to Studio One (instead of Pro Tools) for my final tracking and editing. Cubase just really checks the most boxes for an all in one daw. At least for me and my workflow.

Hi, Just wanted to let you know I did download the new Studio One 6.6 Version but very disappointed I have the Professional level program that I've been updating since 2015 and have paid lot's of money to keep it current; now can't have the latest App they offer because all of a sudden there is a Plus version that I have to purchase yearly!!! Ridiculous! If they continue with this subscription nonsense, I'll regrettably be going else where no matter the learning curve. I hear Logic Pro is good. Oh well, nothing like crapping on your customers to send all your clients out the door!

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

They just switched the Presonus store over to subscription only on every ad-on for studio one also. Can't even buy additional content for S1 anymore.

@830jkl

2 ай бұрын

I feel logic is great, quite easy to get around on, but I’m switching to cubase because I feel it’s more of a powerhouse with so many features, many that s1 follow behind. No need for melodyne or vocalign, cubase has those types of things built in. I know there’ll be a learning curve, I’m just gonna lean into it. 🎹

@830jkl

9 күн бұрын

@@joshuabutlermusicYet another reason to find the lifeboats and get off of that Titanic. 🚢 💩

They are going to the Adobe Audition models. It sucks.

I am honestly okay with this. I understand your concerns though and maybe if I owned a perpetual pro license I would've felt the same way. I only own S1 Artist 6 which is more than enough to still produce professional content - there are no major limitations. I guess I am probably a minimilist who do not care about built in features or extra stuff in a subscription. once I get the hybrid option I won't even install the extra stuff... I will get the hybrid plan asap in order to get 'n pro license with or without long term updates, I don't care. I do understand that long term S1 pro owners could be upset, which seemingly all of them are...

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

I've recorded whole albums with Artist. It's a super capable DAW. And with 3rd party VST support you really can't beat it. No ATMOS but I seriously can't see that being a deal breaker for 99% of people currently.

@ettiennelane9173

3 ай бұрын

@@joshuabutlermusic I am glad the feeling is mutual about S1 Artist. Maybe I should just stay on Artist. It would take at least 8 + years of buying Artist licenses before I reach the price of a single perpetual pro license.

Hey Josh... Spot on. (a repost from another vid comment). As a tech geek and a S1 user since v2, I do love S1 for many things. From its macros and interface to its easily accessed database architecture, I've been happy with the tool. It is the new company, and its policies and directions that leave me apathetic these days. I'm a nobody in music and can't carry a tune in a bucket. I know guys like me no longer mean much to FenderSonus and therefore, after years of enthusiasm, the spark is gone. I've created many hours of unmonetized S1 tutorials and responded to countless forum questions because I thought it was a great tool that guys like me might appreciate. It seems however, that those days are done, and I get it. Business changes and that is the way it is. I worked for a little software guy from Seattle, so I know the game. In actuality, and for simple logistical reasons, I'll probably keep S1 as part of my workflow. It is and will be a solid work horse with more power than I'll ever need. However, just like a great set of amps that you don't want to swap out, I think I'll use it strictly for the less exciting things (imho) like arranging and mastering, and leave the creative, heartfelt, and exciting pieces to tools like Live and others that generate some spark and don't leave a sour taste in my mouth. Cheers and thanks for the content. I might even look at Cubase. :)

Hang on, let's bottom line this. Up till now you could rent everything Presonus for 50p a day but not own the DAW or pay £316 to own the current Studio One Pro DAW. Now you can still pay £316 to own the latest Studio One Pro DAW or rent everything for 50p a day BUT at the end of 12 months renting you own outright which ever version of Studio One you're currently renting. Sounds like a great deal to me, or am I missing something? Personally as an original Sphere subscriber I think 50p a day for everything in the Presonus software catalogue is a total no brainer. 🤔

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

If it works for you that's awesome. 👍

@chribu1

2 ай бұрын

You don't get a full version after 12 months, because you can't update. You first have to pay the difference to the real full version in order to be able to update - or you continue to subscribe to the subscriptions, again and again. This is not a bargain, it's a bait and switch!

@joshuabutlermusic

2 ай бұрын

@@chribu1 I'm glad I'm not the only one who see's this. And now they have taken your ability to purchase any ad-ons or upgrades. You have to subscribe to get any of them.

@VirtualAirTour

2 ай бұрын

Here's a big part you're missing...I am new to S1 and was about to purchase Hybrid until I discovered - you don't ever get to keep the new Lead Archtect instrument - it is only available to Studio One+ subscribers...stop your subscription, you lose the instrument - there is no option to purchase it outright. I suspect it is the first of many features that will follow this model.

@TimmSpinn

2 ай бұрын

The key point that most people fail to mention is that, if you already own any version of S1 Pro, the cost to upgrade when they release a new major version is $149 USD. And they only release major versions every 2 years or so. So that's $75 per year to OWN IT and get point updates. They realized this, and that's why they are now including things like instruments as subscription exclusives. That's the only "value add" to the sub. I'll be happy as long as they offer the perpetual upgrade option. If they cut that, that'll be business suicide just like Waves did (and backtracked).

I’m still using studio 5, have not downloaded the 6 that I have paid for 6 months ago- I wonder I I will get updates when I download it?

Damn, I was just about to buy their Fat channel complete VST bundle. Guess I’m looking for a new DAW now too!

I still use studio one 4, and mostly free plugins

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

4 was the most stable version IMO. I can't remember having any issues on both Mac or PC when I was using it.

say your license expired and you payed for at least a year at the time it does, does paying for a monthly fee for say a month or two will keep use having the bug updates we need? or do we lose that unless we do a yearly subcription: it seems that the only update they offer after stop paying is a minor *rev* update so e.g. x.y.1 to x.y.2 but not x.2 to x.3 and no monthly extension u have to buy annual again for more... of course fender is going to push for major/minor *version* updates and as few minor *rev* updates so u keep paying for their bugs to fix in minor and major revs ...

Cubase is the best! Ive been using cubase for 24 years now and i tried many daw during those years. None catch my attention. Cubase workflow is my way to go

I'm just thinking is Cubase 13 really that good. I really like Studio One I think Its the best DAW I have used so far. Sad to actually have to let it go! I'm not really one to jump ship but I think I need to have a look at other DAWs now. 😢

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

I still think Studio One is an amazing DAW. I've used as my main DAW for almost ten years now. I'm just unsure of the direction Fender is going to take Presonus. So far it's not a direction I'm a fan of. And that's sad, I've recommended S1 to everyone who has asked over the past decade. But now I'm going to recommend Cubase.

@FlatTire

3 ай бұрын

I’m more confident in S1 because I used it for so long, but Cubase comes with so many features that S1 needs another 6 versions to catch up

@RobaQ87

2 ай бұрын

Cubase have 60 days fully working trial version. Go grab it and try it xD S1 has so good and quick workflow with its macros, drag and drop feature and shortcuts, this make working with it much better than the other DAWs.

The Studio One Sphere subscription was cool for a while, but fiscally just didn't make sense for me personally so I dropped it. I have older versions of Studio One, and also Reaper, so I'm fine with that. I may go with Logic, but my iMac is an Intel i7-3770 2013 that I got for $50 and rebuilt/upgraded myself, and I'm sure that would be an issue. BTW, Thanks for your PreSonus Revelator io-24 review! While I got mine basically as layover placeholder until I get an older TB2 Focusrite Clarrett Pre, PreSonus Quantum, or UA Apollo Twin? I have been rather impressed with it, and have only experienced some very minor periodical hickup/freeze/artifact issues prior to updating the firmware, and once I do upgrade? My son's getting it for his game streaming aspiration. So thanks again! Cheers!

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

You are absolutely welcome. I love that little interface. Cubase picked up on it with no problems. I've even got my ioStation 24c linked to Cubase as my control surface while still using the Rev as the interface. And you honestly can't go wrong with reaper. I have a lot of friends who use it and they absolutely love that DAW.

Can somebody explain to me how the hybrid subscription is a bad deal?

Hi, I have studio one professional and it updated to version 6.6 but without the synthesizer, does this mean that from now on I will no longer receive updates?

@sonnynguyen9047

2 ай бұрын

Future updates will be there, it's just that the new synthesizer is only available in the subcription plan

Hello. I'm planning on getting Cubase 13 Elements or Bitwig Studio Essentials as my 2nd DAW. For one. Both Digital Audio Workstation's are amazing, Cubase has been here the longest since 1980s & the latest version of Cubase is better then ever before. With it's fast, flexible, enchanted yet intuitive workflow, Etc. I've never tried out Cubase. Nor did i use Bitwig Studio. I use Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio & it's an amazing update to the previous predecessor Mixcraft 9. The updated UI. East to use workflow, Better light theme, Newly revamped Piano Roll, Etc. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio is going to be my main DAW. Alongside with a 2nd DAW, Will it be Cubase 13 Elements or Bitwig Studio Essentials?

@IMJUSTWANTTOTALK

Ай бұрын

Honestly cubase artist is more recommended than elements in my opinion however, if you came from mixcraft I think cubase will be more similar to your workflow and better for you also I think is the most complete daw even though im talking about pro and not elements. On the other hand bitwig is really cool but is a complete new different workflow to cubase or mixcraft so I will recommend it only if you want to change completely your workflow to something new

The Studio One 6.6 update was rather disappointing, especially the notion that subscribers are now considered the A team, leaving the rest of us as mere spectators without any benefits as Pro users. However, that's okay; it motivated me to make a decision. I've been alternating between Cubase and Studio One for the past few years, and I haven't been particularly satisfied with either. I am a long-time Cubase user. I decided to explore Logic Pro X too. Today, I made the switch and I'm opting for Logic Pro X. It evokes a sense of nostalgia, reminiscent of the early days of music production software-not necessarily in layout, but in its overall approach. I feel a sense of belonging and comfort in Logic Pro X. I have a feeling we'll become great companions.

I switched to CUBASE AS WELL. See ya Studio One !!!! Wouldn't want to be ya!!!

You're looking at this all wrong. You have 3 choices - (a) buy the current version, stick with it forever, (b) buy the current version, keep it forever and subscribe to the "+" extras annually (which of course you can stop doing whenever you want), or (c) subscribe to everything monthly and always be fully up to date. Yes, the fact is that if you stop subscribing you lose access to the 'extra' stuff (plug-ins, instruments etc) but that's entirely reasonable because those extras are what your subscription buys you. If you've been subscribing, hopefully you've rendered any important work to audio files and therefore your work is saved regardless of any later move away from the "+" extras. You can't have everything. I've been subscribing monthly for a couple of years and it's fine, I can stay or go and it's up to me. This hybrid model amounts to "if you decide not to subscribe in future, you walk away with a free perpetual license" - what's the problem?

@agungputranto

3 ай бұрын

correct,.. 9 videos around about this hybrid already just to complain,... this system is brilliant

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

If you truly don't see a problem than good for you. I'm glad this structure fits what you need.

@johnchill

3 ай бұрын

I think he is spot on.

@eddiecanonge

3 ай бұрын

Dude this is hilarious...they're gonna bundle it all and get people hooked....then raise the 179 yearly. They only care about profits qtrly...pro users pay 400 every 4 to 5 years where as you'll pay 179 for now....every year. To stay updated like most pro users want to do it's almost 200 a year. It's simple math. Ntm since 6....what have they done...track icons and surround sound. I mean presonus broke my heart. Been with them and their gear for over 10 years. Before they sold they always were fair and listened to users. To block a vst regardless to a pro user is trash period.

@mrrazz7178

2 ай бұрын

Other DAWs cost way more than studio one unless you use mac/logic. Subscription model would obviously get more add-ons comapared to others. Lead architect is an add-on not really a stock vst.​ RN the monthly/even hybrid model price is quite reasonable.@@joshuabutlermusic

After this guy took the CEO seat things have gone haywire .. I will make that very clear on my channel and all music videos.

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Such a great company at one time. I had the Digimax LT preamp running into my Digidesign Digi 002 way before Studio One was even around. Sad to see the direction they are heading with this CEO calling the shots.

Don't want to change anyone's ideas here. There's no right or wrong. In my opinion, the subscription is a good thing. You pay a known amount, which I think is not very much for a full option software. For some people, like me, who want to experiment a little, this subscription is affordable and within reach. Paying 500 or more euros at once can be a lot of money. After a while it's quite expensive, to again, buy an upgrade. The alternative is buying a cheaper version, but then you're missing functionality. It's also a manner to contribute to the development of the software. These engineers need to work everyday to improve and develop the software. For that they need to get paid too. But as said, others here might have other goals and needs and don't think it's a good thing. I respect that opinion too!

Don’t think that you can just stop subscribing and keep using your old version forever. The next major update for Windows or Mac could easily make you drivers or plugins unusable. The latest Apple processors forced a lot of software upgrades. This is already figured into their business model. Planned obsolescence. But, many of you will just keep your old computer with old software and be perfectly happy. That is fine, but, it’s not what Fender has planned for you.

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

And they just changed every ad-on for studio one to subscription only in the Presonus store. You can no longer purchase them outright.

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

@@stephenr2434 I completely agree with you. I’m OK with them adding new things to the subscription model but what I’m not OK with is them depriving people who have paid for a pro license.

@cmddav2206

2 ай бұрын

I will keep my windows pc dedicated to music production and keep windows update off-

This is really like WUP from waves in that it is MASSIVELY misunderstood. You wouldn’t have to spend 180 dollars a year “for the rest of your life” at all. After your sub is over, you get a perpetual license right where your sub ended. What is wrong with that? Your DAW does not suddenly stop working. In fact, it’ll work just fine for the next five or 10 years, until YOU decide to upgrade it. At that point you can sub another year and jump however many versions. To me, this is not a bad deal at all.

@philweight3480

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. It's basically a free perpetual license after one year's subs.

@chribu1

2 ай бұрын

@@philweight3480 NO! You don't get a full version after 12 months, because you can't update. You first have to pay the difference to the real full version in order to be able to update - or you continue to subscribe to the subscriptions, again and again. This is not a bargain, it's a bait and switch!

@anthonylc5138

17 күн бұрын

If you use the "Studio One+ only" plugins in your mixes you'll need to pay every 12 month to continue working on your project.

@joeydego2

17 күн бұрын

@@anthonylc5138 simply do not use those few plugins. There are stock equivalents.

@joeydego2

17 күн бұрын

@@chribu1 in what world is the full version not the full version because you can’t update it? IT IS INDEED THE FULL VERSION.

Fender?

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Fender purchased Presonus a couple of years ago.

Sorry.. I'm not getting into a subscription model for a DAW.

I really don't have a problem with it. If you don't like subs, don't sub.

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

And I understand not everybody is bothered by it. I just felt like speaking my opinion. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I’m sure a lot of my friends who are S1 users will subscribe and that’s perfectly fine. S1 is an awesome DAW.

@kadiummusic

3 ай бұрын

50p a day for a superb evolving daw, project page, console emulations, plugins, loop catalogues, instruments, Notation etc, etc is a total no-brainer. Nothing out there to compete, and to think what us former Pro Tools had to put up with! 😎

I am using Studio One 5.5. I don't use their plugins. I use Waves and izotope. I don't care what Presonus does with Studio One because the version I have works fine. I don't need there updates! I also use Avid Protools 12. I believe Avid was one of the first to do the subscription BS after version 12.

Been with Presonus for years, last couple they have been in decline, kept hoping they would get back on track , never imagined they would get to the point where they would make old fashioned but steady Cubase look good . Totally agree with a return to Cubase, good offers at the moment .

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

I couldn't pass the Cubase offers up. I've been on the fence for a few years with Studio One. If you look at my channel content you can see when I started to experiment with other DAWs. Cubase is the one that checks the most boxes for myself.

Hey Joshua, I'm a founder of ChordChord and I've been trying to reach you out, but you have no contact info. How can we get in touch?

Just don't forget to inform us when you're switching back to S1...

Hybrid subscription seems very similar to Bitwig Studio model. i think they borrowed the idea. But in Bitwig each point update is huge features and bug fixes compared to S1. Now Presonus need to prove they can implement great features and please most customers in a point update pace, otherwise it will be crap.

Its the same everywhere. We saw this with adobe and fotoshop. Now canva took over affinity and they will go the same way sooner or later. You simply can't develop software the way its done ten or even twenty years ago. We may not love it, but I fear we can't stop it.

Cubase is looking real nice right now. I don't like fragmentation with my music. It's basically something you don't own like everything else. So when times out you are pressured into renewing and to continue paying to keep your assets together. I don't want to shell out money to anymore subscriptions. These all add up. I for one have other things I do besides making music. I cannot sit at a computer everyday to fully get my money's worth. Then also compete with my time for Adobe for example. Then later fall asleep to Netflix and Hulu at same time...cuz that costs x amount of dollars that I'll be wasting when I get get paid every two weeks from a place that takes 80hrs of that time I could be using on my subscriptions per pay period. After the exaustion clears from your day job, and you take care all your adult errands, remember you have a wife/kids to tend to. If you are actually up to opening your subscription based daw it's like how much time do you really get and is it worth it or is it kind of a waste? Telling the truth, but being dramatic in a nutcase way too.

@THA-REAPER

2 ай бұрын

Welp I now own Cubase 13 Pro 🤷🏽‍♂️ I'll be poking around here a lot more. Thanks for the extra push. I'll revisit S1 every major version to see if the tune changed.

Bundle, Subscription, or both. This is the digital audio market today.

i think the Hybrid model is a good thing especially right now because we're at the end of version 6 lifecycle, so most likely in 12 months you'll get a perpetual licence for version 7.0, which would cost you just 180 dollars, instead of 400 + 120 dollars for a traditional perpetual 7.x licence. But they should keep both options available. But... just like you I switched to Cubase, because of how disappointing the 6.0 update was. Presonus seems to focus on AMOS, Dolby surround, video editing and tons of crap that the average music producer isn't interested in. What about making a score editor that let you choose your guitar tuning, Fender...? As for the instruments included, I think both Studio One and Cubase have hardly anything interesting (especially Studio One). In comparison Cakewalk Sonar came with so many cool instruments like Addictive Drummers, Guitar Rig...

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Sonar was my first real DAW WAY back in the day before Pro Tools LE and the original M-Box. (Nostalgia) lol I'm not apposed to subscriptions I just think they are going about it the wrong way. This is basically giving anyone who owns a current perpetual license (myslef included) the shaft. I have to subscribe to get new features when I own S1 PRO........ They are setting it up to where you'll never own anything and the perpetual license you get now will be outdated in a year. It's typical big corporation business structure.

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

@@stephenr2434 unfortunately people do not see what is happening right in front of them.

Hm, If you use the "Studio One+ only" plugins in your mixes you'll need to pay every 12 month to continue working on your project?... What about colaborations?, ...what if a StudioOne+ user shares his project to a "no studio one+ plugins" user? ... It's a big mess.

Fender CEO seems to be one of those "tart it up and sell it off" types. Make it or get fired. Either way they just move on and repeat the process. It's a "money first" rather than a "customer first" approach which is a short--sighted way to run (or ruin) a business. Coincidently, I've just bought Cubase 13 Pro and uninstalled Studio One 6.5 Pro. :)

@sickmessiah

3 ай бұрын

Dang .. You Just quit all your s1 projects by uninstalling a owned DAW .. That seems wild to me .. I understand moving on .. But i still keep FL studio , adobe audition and pro tools installed ... WHy not ? I paid for em and can access old projects if i want ..

@dave.F0X

3 ай бұрын

@@sickmessiah I don't need to access S1 projects - they were mostly scraps of ideas any way. If I do, then I will or do an export / import. Most of my completed projects were done in Cubase 5, and they load into Cubase 13.

They just took out presonus from competition with the help of big companies. RIP Presonus.

The subscription model is not for me.

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

It’s really not for anybody but not everyone is seeing that. When the world is subscription based no one will own anything, and now they have switched the add-ons to subscription based only so you can’t even purchase those. Sad day for an amazing DAW.

If I already bought 6 a while ago but haven’t downloaded it- am I affected by this?

@cmddav2206

2 ай бұрын

I upgraded to 6 a while ago-

good tip...get Reaper...cheaper^^ stable...yeh no instruments BUT do you need them integrated stuff and fx? Tried studio one nah...tried cubase...not really...stuck with Reaper...2version update

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Reaper is an awesome DAW. If you have your own Plug-ins and virtual instruments which most people do, you really can't go wrong. I will say it's the most stable DAW I've ever used. It will run on a potato and load almost ANY plug-in without fail.

@daviHuggMonster

3 ай бұрын

indeed. I am still looking for a second that has interesting stable options but it won't be studio one for sure. still cubase has my interest@@joshuabutlermusic

Waiting for Cubase videos 😅

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Soon my friend. I've already got them on my schedule. lol 😁

If you work with DAW, 20$ at month for having EVERYTHING is nothing. If you play with beats only to listen the sound and feel happy, then of course doesn't make any sense.

@HoldMyBeerFam

3 ай бұрын

Finally, a smart man in the comments who understands the value his tools bring him in his career.

@LesGrossman69

3 ай бұрын

Subscription services are a trojan horse for price increases without adding anything more. You're blind.

@MadSteex

3 ай бұрын

@@LesGrossman69 every month you have new libraries for free, always up to date daw

@LesGrossman69

3 ай бұрын

@@MadSteexMy comment doesn't apply to just DAW's, but all subscription services in general. It's just an easy way to raise prices on people for the same service. It's cancer.

@MadSteex

3 ай бұрын

@@LesGrossman69 I agree with you in general. But speaking about this specific case I prefer the Studio One plus

Logic is still 199 bucks fyi .

Id rather pay $180 for a perpetual license than $400 for the same perpetual license.

It’s almost like s1 is like a girlfriend/boyfriend who cheats on you and talks badly about you, yet folks try hard to defend that behavior… well, she/he is pretty/handsome,…they dress well,…doesn’t everyone cheat anyway? 🤪🎹♥️

Yep, leaving studio one...

Yeah, I've been on S1 since 1.5. I own a perpetual license but I wanted to cancel my subscription because I don't use Sphere. I'm going to continue paying until 7 drops, then I'm going to cancel my sub, so I have all updates to version 6. I learned this DAW and I enjoy my work flow, but I'm done upgrading. 6 will be my last version. Cubase is confusing to me for some reason and I don't like Ableton or Logic. I bought Luna to Mix and Master in, bought I produce in S1. I hate this b.s. Now, I have to learn another DAW. Honestly, I have FL just so I can get free updates on the flagship product, and it looks like I'm going there. Updates are free for ever. Hell, I don't know how to use FL at all. I knew when they put Atmos inside we were going to have to start putting money in this software all over again.

I am disappointed in Presonus. I'm considering a move to Reaper

The truth is like your addicted to having a bazillion plugins, your also addicted to HAVE TO HAVE the latest bazillion features. YOU DON'T NEED THEM.

💀

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Sad day for us S1 fans. Lol

very pisssed off and disappointed by the new update forcing PRO users to take a back seat, no longer prime users of Presonus, you have to subscribe now. YUK PRESONUS - you put a bad taste in my mouth, make me feel like I now have an inferior product!!

Bad decision S1 👎

not okay with this! Tunecore is a bad rep company. I have heard that they took royalties that were not payable to them. Why would presonus associate with with this people? what ever dude!

@joshuabutlermusic

2 ай бұрын

I was goin to make another video similar to this one just to say..... THEY SIDED WITH TUNECORE!!?!?!?! The most crooked digital distributor the world has ever seen and now Presonus is promoting them. Really sad to see.

bye bye S1 hello cubase Bitwig Ableton logic FL

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Sad day for Studio One users but if you're using any of the DAWs you just listed..... You'll be just fine. lol I love using Logic, and Ableton is fun also but Cubase 13 Pro just checked the most boxes for what I want in a DAW.

@kadiummusic

3 ай бұрын

Bye.

..he'll be fired again soon😂

@joshuabutlermusic

3 ай бұрын

Fingers crossed. lol