Remember everyone, This is just my opinion..... Lets keep the mean comments to a minimum please. 🤣

I started at fl studio 7, then in 2012 cubase,2019 Logic Pro x,2022 studio one 6 when it came out, I never going back to any other daw, I can do almost everything in studio one 6 that I use to do in the other daws and feels smoother and better. So far I got 13 of my producer friends to move to studio one and we doing great work.

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

A lot of my friends still use studio one. Its a more than capable DAW.

@EricJohnson-fh8zj

Жыл бұрын

Any of those 13 friends want to buy Studio One 5 then? 😅. Or trade for another daw or plug-in's with a transferable license? I bought a perpetual license last summer for $399 without trying it first. I even bought the S1 Toolbox add-on the next day for a extra $99, so it was a costly mistake. It does have a lot of great workflow features, but it just never clicked with me personally. Even if i was still using it, I wouldn't have upgraded to version 6, I'd have waited untill #7 or 8. There just wasn't a single thing compelling enough in 6. The biggest new thing was the video track, and it's so basic that almost no one is actually using it. There are free options that can do more (if video editing is even something one needs, wich many dont). Anyhow, If you know anyone who has the subscript and wants to save some $$ in the long run (or not have to connect to the internet to keep thier daw working), hmu. I'll take 150 or some kinda trade for Studio one 5 + the S1 Toolbox...& the Toolbox license comes with lifetime updates. I can list it on a site like eBay or marketplace with buyer/seller protections for peace of mind if needed.

@ridinglow6732

9 ай бұрын

@@EricJohnson-fh8zjguess you went to pro tools lol..if that’s the case..enjoy the stick up the a** 😂😂

@mrquick6775

7 ай бұрын

I hate studio one, just can’t seem to do anything accomplished I’m it, it seems to hamper my creativity..

Never gonna leave Studio One..keeps getting better and better.

I dispise Mac and will never own one. I also will never buy a mixer that only supports a Mac or iPad. Thank you for this video. It is helpfull and refreshing to hear the pros and cons

Almost impossible to buy Studio One? What? It was easy to buy. The Sphere option is JUST one option. Just as easy to buy it outright as well.

@Annunaki_0517

8 ай бұрын

I tried and couldn’t find the link. I’ve been a loyal S1 customer for a decade, bought every update since Pro 2.0, but they’ve lost me with this last update. They are price gouging like ProTools now.

Sorry to be rude, but this is entire BS! I'm producing since 25 years, started with Protools, them Logic which is never being updated to the standards of Cubase or Studio One in terms of workload, Then many years of Cubase, finally switched over last year to Studio One. I never had a DAW which is so amazingly thought through in terms of workload. MIDI is on par if not better than anything I worked with inkl Ableton! What are you saying about Ableteons Midi? You can't even split notes in the piano roll, try to quntize: pop up window for swing and stuff, it's super annoying. I'm using Ableton on stage, and this is awesome, in the end this is what it was made for. Studio One is an awesome DAW, it has a lot of Cubases concepts in it but does everything in half the time And the CPU consumption is very good!

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

You’re entitled to your opinion. And I do agree with the cpu difference.

Brother, I’ve been watching your videos and you always sound like complaining. I agree with you that Logic offers a lit for the money but it’s not anywhere, when it comes to work flow, compared to Studio One 6! It comes down to two things: - If it’s an issue with money, stick with Logic, it’s the best deal - Faster and smoother experience with great results but a bit pricey, Studio one 6 is the way to go. Just saying…

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

I'm absolutely complaining on this one. lol 🙃 If you think Studio One is amazing you should try Cubase 12 Pro. I'm on week two of the 60 day demo and I'm pretty sure I'm buying it.

While I don't agree with you on all points, I do agree that S1 V6 was soooooo underwhelming. I felt they needed more virtual Instruments and upgrades to their current ones. Personally, I like the stock plugins, but their sample library sounds more like toys and amateur like. Impact reminds me of Native Instruments Battery v1 (no editing or fx what so ever.). The other instruments sound like the early general midi sounds. For pure recording and mixing, it's great, but for music production, you're better off investing in kontact or other soft synths. Don't get me wrong, I think it's becoming the new recording and mixing standard, but the stock virtual instruments need a drastic overhaul and a few more additions. Just my opinion.

@manny_f

9 ай бұрын

They should fix some of the half-baked features. For example, there is no need to manage shared copies (try using more than one group in a project, you literally have no way to know what's linked to what). Another thing that irks me is the fact that I can't type in third-party plugin parameter values in the automation bar at the top, even though it allows type-in, when I press Enter it goes back to the previous value. Little things like that. The arranger track concept is utter crap, they added it just so they could tick the box that they had added a feature people requested, but it doesn't work the way people wanted. People wanted something like the arranger track in Cubase, which allows multiple arrangements. Here you just move chunks of the project left and right, and every time you do it slices through your clips and messes things up.

When the Fender CEO said that he wanted Studio One's manual to be one page I knew we were in trouble. I'm sticking with my v5.5 pro install for a while. Love the Project Page / Song Page relationship in Studio One pro. Good video!

@johndavidtice

Жыл бұрын

I had the exact same hesitations, super worried that it was going to lose features and get overhauled. Downloaded V6 anyway because I just couldn't resist the panning updates (they're awesome). Glad to say these concerns were unfounded, IMHO. Fact is Presonus removed nothing except for one insignificant function somewhere deep in settings that I can't even remember, but added so many great features, and the option to not use ANY of them if you don't want. They handled the CEO's concerns about novices by giving users the option of a more streamlined user interface, a few Smart Templates for beginners, and easy instructions (although there's still a full manual). Something to give new users a fighting chance at learning S1. It actually was nice because I was able to remove functions from my UI that I never use. So, nothing lost unless I wanted it to be gone, and tons gained. Anyway, thought I'd chime in and give you some good words about it. They just released 6.1 and it has some solid Project Page updates you'd probably dig. Oh and it has a custom color palette now too!

@castawaymusic144

Жыл бұрын

@@johndavidtice Yeah I went ahead with v6 also after 6.1 came out. Have used many of the new features already with a project I'm working on. I have had an issue with the dynamics on ProEq3 not enabling properly after a close, save, reopen. Support has sent the issue to development for a possible fix. Looks like the issue is related to my setup and not a wide spread problem. So far pretty happy with v6.

@johndavidtice

Жыл бұрын

@@castawaymusic144 That's great to hear!

I am have not uploaded from studio one v5.5 to 6. It was running smooth. But now i am facing some bugs. I think they are forcing me to upgrade. And most of the bigs are in stock plugins.

I tend to dismiss anecdotal opinions, but I do appreciate your efforts to share them. As I read through these comments, I picked up on a 'theme'. Quite a few people, including yourself, don't like the included instruments. Fair enough, but you fail to understand the software business model in the audio industry. For example, Presonus could easily development world-class instruments, but if they included them in the Studio One package, the price would be $1200+, easily. That would make about ZERO sense for them to do. The fact is that most people prefer to purchase class-leading instruments and audio for their preferred DAW. No one that I know wants to pay any DAW manufacturer for their 'instruments'. Third party instruments have been and will continue to be the standard. For those who put the effort into learning how to use the built-in instruments, they would find them quite useful and of good quality. But you and I both know that most people won't bother to learn, they prefer to complain. :)

I was with Studio One since ver 1 but when Fender CEO nailed his colours to the mast I jumped ship and went to Cubase Pro Ver 12, glad I did.

Definitely the hardware integration is fantastic, I use a 32s + an nsb 32.16 so 64 inputs and the DAW integration. Just play a bass and an amp and a mic. Just like we did with 2” tape.

I come from Fl studio to S1 and I personally like it better for workflow and mixing.

I’m with you. Started on the same version. I’m primarily a mix/master engineer these days, which Studio One had in the bag back then. Gradually, I have felt them go more and more the way of the songwriter, and less for the engineer - is my biggest complaint. And, the waveform editing is still subpar seven years later, compared to ProTools.

I’ve been using Studio One since version 3 and it’s been spectacular for me. I never had an issue getting Sphere pushed onto me. But do you, work with what you like.

Good points with Studio One... been using since version 2 after I bought their amazing hardware! Only use it for analogue.. no midi. The mixing of audio has been the best by far of any previous software (ProTools, Motu, Logic). The Fender buy is showing some signs of not keeping up with "pro" concepts, but will stay with Studio One because of the speed I have gained.. and switching is tough with hundreds of projects. The Mac/PC transfer is also great for sending things along! Hoping for the best to continue. Good luck with the channel.. Subscribed for future thoughts and reviews!

i was using S1 up till 6 came out. now that Luna has core audio i jumped over with my studiolive 32 and apollo's in an aggregate device (S1 didnt like aggregate devices)

as ai side note some friends i have left pro tools a year or 2 ago for cubase. they do a lot of midi stuff and said its the bomb. i thought about giving it a go myself. in europe its the biggest daw. quality product and i hear good support.

i recently went back to reaper and had an epiphany. im 53 so im not super computer literate so it was a bit scary for a while , but i watched some vids and actually paid for a course and i have pro tools and studio one 6 but the more i use and get into reaper the more i find its the daw for me.

You can do side & mis eq by using the mix tool

I guess I’m way behind. I came from Cakewalk Guitar Tracks to Studio One 5. I had no tempo mapping, no midi editor, no pitch shifting and no virtual instruments at all. Studio One is amazing to this hobbiest, home recorder.

@RiffMusic1970

Жыл бұрын

I forgot about slip editing and layers. 😍

Please assist. I have 2 PCs. Do run Cubase 12 Pro on my main machine. Can I install it on another one and Activate using the same license for both machines to be used simultaneously? Thank you.

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

I know for a fact you can use the same key for up to two computers. Hope this helps. 😁

@nukenoly8751

Жыл бұрын

Actually 3 computers with the new licensing system

You make some good points. I've come from Cakewalk-Sonar-Cubase/Nuendo-Logic (PC)-SAW Studio-Samplitude now Studio One 6. From PC-Bootcamped Mac- now all Mac. I used to complain about subscriptions but now I'm fine with Sphere. I don't know about their loops etc but I use Notion and the Presonus orchestral samples are not bad. To get a good DAW with a decent notation program with samples for $16 a month, sure beats buying. Studio One also has Sound Variations integration with my VSL libraries that nobody else has. As long as Fender doesn't nuke Studio One, I'm good.

@geoffmichelle1161

Жыл бұрын

I’m still trying to get my head around using the “Presonus orchestral samples”. Currently learning about Kontact. In your experience is there a better way to compose using the orchestral samples? Cheers

I’m looking into Ableton. I love studio one but SO5 is the version I bought. I’m using Sphere for 6. I started on SO3. SO6 seems to care more about the way it looks than operates, because of that I’m looking into another DAW.

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

It’s funny you mention they care about the looks more than the function now. They have a new color picking option so you can get any shade you desire for your track color….. lol

I used to work on Cubase 5. Switched to Studio One 3.5, got really comfortable with it in about a month or so, bought Professional in a sale for about 250$ along with 2 friends. So practically got my license for about 85$.😀 Upgraded to Ver 4 and Ver 5 respectively in Black Friday Sales for dirt cheap, and have been using 5.5 happily. I totally agree with you that Ver 6 upgrade is a waste of money and I am planning to stick to Ver 5.5 until they come up with something significantly better than templates and customization option and other such trifle updates. Also, the midi functionality in Studio One feels much behind Ableton Live. That's why, I have a copy of Ableton that I use specifically for advanced creative midi processing if I need any in a track. The going back and forth in DAWs is tedious and irritating but I feel most comfortable in Studio One for the most of my Production, Editing and Mixing work. I guess, I am stuck with the Studio One - Ableton Live Combo for at least a while.

True at version 6 people expected more from studio one....I love the splitter tool and clip gain line though.

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

You just picked my two favorite things I wish every other daw had. Lol Cubase has something very similar to the envelope gain line. Which is nice because I use it for manual dee-essing often.

@NoeAnton

Жыл бұрын

The new dynamic EQ feature is also pretty useful. The EQ is pretty transparent so very useful for some surgical EQ

Enjoy your Podcast...thanks. Been a S1 fanboy since v2 and I am completely with you regarding their current trajectory. I"m still on 5 because I believe the producer/ digital creator is secondary for them now. When was the last time we got any kind of interesting creation tools? I think your read on the Fender acquisition is spot on. Having been in the tech industry for decades with plenty of M&A exposure, the strategy of the acquirer never really morphs towards the strategy of the acquired. And even if that was part of the "strategic plan" or the funding pitch, the corporate inertia of the parent cannot be overcome by the newly acquired company...especially in an emotionally charged field like music. My only hope is that they spin off S1 and let it innovate like it once did. Or make Greggor the SVP of product dev and run it as an independent division like we did with Xbox. Like it or not, the AI revolution is upon us. If they don't have young, innovative eyes and minds in the game, S1 will die a slow and painful death like so many other software products after a hardware focused buyer took them over.

I honestly agree entirely. I went from FL studio 20 and used FL primarily for around 6 years or so just as more of a hobby. I switched to Studio One 5 and immediately noticed the huge lack of stock plugins. While I was using Studio One I found myself having to go out and purchase third party plugins for so many things other DAWs can do with default plugins. I did some research and found out a lot of the things I liked about Studio One were heavily inspired by the way cubase does things anyhow. Switched to Cubase Pro 12 and I'll never look back at Studio One again. Just about anything I need to accomplish can be done with stock plugins while sounding absolutely great in Cubase. I should also point out I primarily make electronic music and trap beats.

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

I’ve only been playing with cubase for about two weeks now, and the stock plug-ins absolutely blow me away. I find myself reaching for my fab filter, pro Q3 even less now with cubase pros, EQ.

@exitthelemming145

Жыл бұрын

Those of us of a certain vintage (I'm 60) will agree with everything you said about Gibson purchasing Cakewalk in 2013 and pulling the plug in 2017. (It's now a freeware DAW marketed as Bandlab and marketed to an 'instant gratification' demographic)

@wtfkayo

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuabutlermusic It's honestly insane. I've been using it primarily for 6 months already and still find new neat tricks the DAW can do every session. The only huge drawback is having to use a loopback method to stream the DAWs audio. Voicemeter is way too finicky so the only solid option is using an interface's loopback if you own one that has it.

@LaidbackSounds

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuabutlermusic Exactly the same for me , it is incredible for stock fx plugins

@mrquick6775

7 ай бұрын

Right! I started suing it back in 2013 when I worked at guitar center and got a free basic copy. It seemed ok at first but just not so user friendly. Since I was already familiar with fruity loops and reasons which I really liked that’s what I was comparing it to. Well, I find it extremely difficult to make songs with it, and songwriting had always came easy to me. So I stoped using it and started using logic, but my MacBook Pro broke five years ago and I could afford to replace it, so I started back using ver 5, and I’m having the same issues. The stock sounds sound like SHYT! And to me the ui seems cluttered.. it’s just not for people like me. And I play jazz piano, Lo-fi, jazz beats, r&b, hip hop, blues, soul, rock and some experimental type stuff that’s really has no specific genre name. But for beat making and hip hop, R&B type music studio one sucks major donkey balls!! 😢 The stock sounds suck, the impact section for drums is metered to high and if you’re not aware of this it will blow your monitors or ears out!! It’s a fycking pain in the azz to have to go to the global settings mute the individual drums kits one at a time and have to turn the volume almost to zero before I can audition the sound otherwise it’s WAY TO LOUD. Can you imagine how time consuming that is? And I can go on and on and on.. I’ve never had this much trouble creating music with any daw except studio one! I find it a chore doing simple stuff. And I’m a gifted songwriter, but I’m not compatible with this daw at all. I’m going to sell this one because I paid 399.00 and it’s not worth the money to me. So now I’m looking for other daws! Honestly if fruity loops ever got Audio down then I’d love to use that.. Any suggestions??? Peace and blessings’

uggghhh, Sounds like a frustrated user. Im kind of a bad guy. Using s1 in the sphere subscription. Using a IMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) never reinstalled - just updates. runs runs runs. Im using Logic too and for fast sampling and chopping im using my Maschine MK3. Some of your Topics are right. The Soundpacks unusable for me. Fat Channel are fantastic stuff with the emulated analog gear. Great and the reason for my subscription.Midi could be more better. Sure. Built in Sound Variation. Pro EQ can be used as a DeEsser easy and is btw no reason for choosing a daw. Great and easy way to create routings, bussing and so one is sooooo easy... and the feature of fader flip is awesome in great projects. The Split of Tracks and Channels are a great way.. and so on and so on... Im fine with my decisions. And btw. all the people I know - and it doesn't matter what daw they are using, have tons of 3rd partys - like Addictive drums, fab filter, keyscape, Omnisphere, spitfire, Kontakt and and... The Daw is only a host that made my life as a musician easier...

Very buggy software. Tried the demo and kept getting notes ringing out after stopping playback, even after changing all settings suggested by others. Also, the fact you can’t just double click to add an instrument or effect to a track, but have to drag everything is stupid. It’s hilarious they act like that is a special feature and not a limitation.

There is currently a discount for upgrading to version 6

I normally use cubase and I really like it because its feature rich for midi and audio, but the only thing I'm frustrated with is that cubase has a hard time with cpu hogging virtual instruments. And I'm using a thunderbolt audio interface with a MacBook Pro m1 max. For example the Roland cloud instruments, the peak cpu processing in the performance meter bangs at 100% in cubase. But it only happens when you select the track with the Roland plugin on it. I have to set the buffer size as far back as I can. Where with studio one, the Roland Jupiter 8 plugin was only around 6% cpu usage with buffer size of 256. Matter of fact, it actually reduced the cpu usage 20% when I changed the buffer size from 1024 to 256. with cubase you have to record and use one virtual instrument at a time so that the peak cpu processing doesn't go to crazy.

I guess I like studio one Because if I need Bass. I get out my Bass and play it.If I need guitar I get out one of my guitars and I play it. Same with key board. I don't use pre recorded sounds. Sounds like its a good DAW for an old stoner guy musician....lol

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

🤣

Have you tried Reason by Propellerhead?

I agree with most of it, still use S1 because it is intuitive and most times, when I just don't need much more than multitracking music live and producing songs. I never use stock plugins more than EQ/comp at most, and have learned to prefer portable/multiplatform plugins when i move from one daw to another (much easier!) so not caring about the stock plugins/samples junk. I also use Cubase, and it has richer features (when they really work...) but there is not one session where I don't hit an issue for simple things to do. I miss Logic, and stopped using it about 8 years ago because I was impacted by just too many bugs and also hated to have to update my OS regularly to get bug fixes, maybe it is better now? Moved to PC and may come back to mac with M2's just for having Logic again and core audio and thunderbolt better support.

I got studio one 5 about 7 months before the "version 6" came out....and I totally agree. I was like "whaaaaa?! This is just a point version update!" Never gonna upgrade to 6. It was very disappointing and caused me to look for a different daw. If that's a sign of what it's gonna be moving forward, I'm jumping ship.

And the Remote app you cannot use it as a midi controller to play back instruments like the fantastic Logic Pro app.

THat's why I won't update from studio one 5 that (for me) is the best daw at the moment.

I've been waiting for a "drag with middle mouse" update since i was a kid. It's been a highly requested feature on their forum since 2016. Clearly they don't care about ease of use. I don't understand why do they would prefer to lose money by cutting down the prices for crossgrades but won't implement this simple feature that will make people move from another DAW more effortless.

You can m/s any plug-in in studio one

I think most people who use subscriptions from the get go aren't really that invested in the long haul to begin with. So a monthly subscription to pick up or put down at leisure when it suits their mood is actually more practical for them, as oppose to dropping a coupe hundred bucks on something they might pay with maybe a total of 10 hours in a months time.

I've tried Pro Tools, Abelton Live, Studio One, Logic Pro, Cubase. I've settled For 'Reaper', yet I'd use Logic occasionally.

Hi good apraisal of Studio one, i kind of got off on the wrong foot by buying the 'artist' version and then feeling hamstrung for a year especcially when i found out they give it away free with an interface that i could have used for not much more. ive always felt kind of duped cos of that but i am now on sphere, not by choice but it just seemed like the only decent option. I like S1 compared to other daws i have tried but i really don't like Presonus or Fender. nice post mate, all the best.

Agreeable, but for the Presonus Hardware, which is short-lived crap. Audiobox starts funny background noises after a while. Mixers just burn out.

Totally agree with all you said. On an 'easy add' note, how about the sh*tty, "hey we have track icons now!"-cat fart in a wind storm... it's an afterthought, as said. Thanks for this vid. I upgraded from v3 to v6 thinking just maybe... I'll go back to Reaper 6 which is WAY more customizable, for one thing. When they get TOO big to give a fook, I'm out.

been with them for years but THEIR TECHS that I've dealt with SUCK and nothing ever gets fixed ! They cried because I used a swear word to try to get my frustrated point across. 2 years later and all the same shit is still fucked up, the worst being constant crashing. Highly unrecommended daw

Interesting view. I like the features in StudioOne V6 myself, but I shudder when Fender buy companies after what they did to Genz Benz bass amps. The fact that PreSonus discontinued their wonderful DP88 ADAT mic pre should have set alarms ringing, and loudly.

The software works well, until it doesn't, then you are getting the run around at PreSonus Tech Support.

I am still on S1 version 3.5 and it is fine for recording and mixing. I use Ableton Live 10 for producing and midi work. I have Reaper and may go back in give it another try also. Agree with you on the subscrition BS. Don't like the power grab. "You will own nothing and be happy." Like your hat BTW, I am a native Floridian and grew up around Gainesville so also a Gator fan. Cheers!

Can't wait for this...Mine crashes EVERY DAY

For some reason, Studio One runs terribly compared to other DAWs I've used. Plugins I load on FL and Reaper that don't consume a lot of processing are usually doubled in consumption in S1. No matter how many tutorials they make about the 'correct settings' for better performance, it still handles plugins like a turd. It's a great DAW but if I'm at 30% processing with only 7 synths when Reaper and Fl handles it like it's nothing, then you've lost me.

@gsahookah599

4 ай бұрын

Studio One is renown for it's performance with 3rd party plugins actually. It sounds like you might be having an issue with your PC/Mac being poorly configured or underpowered. There are hundreds of KZread vids demonstrating how easily S1 handles an extremely heavy plugin load. Please provide details about your PC/Mac and the synths you're having trouble with. :)

@hr2186

3 ай бұрын

Nothing touches reaper in CPU management. they all suck in comparison. You can fiddle all you'd like but in that dept it's king. It has its own issues though

I have it and for me it's hard to grasp things coming from years for Pro Tools. I still use PT more though because there are some things S1-6.5 can't do that PT can.

Actually, I don't know. Protools actually does a lot if you really know how to use it. Having said that, I would not recommend it for making beats, or producing beats. It's just not the best DAW for that. I use a lot of outboard gear and record audio wave files mostly. So, I guess it really depends on what you do. Having said that, I have moved on from Protools for the reason that it's just too expensive. Reaper is great, I am just not the best at it yet. I still use Studio One a lot. It suits my needs.

Just chiming in about the CONSTANT issues with 6.1.1 This daw fell off after version 4.6 as far a s stability. 6.1.1 has random freezes that seem to occur after the use of timestretch or clip editing. Another HUGE issue is that certain audio clips DO NOT PLAY, causing me to have to start and stop the transport a bunch of times while working on a session. I put a support ticket in for it and they had no answer over a year ago!! I used to love studio one but how the heck can you have a bug that cuts out certain audio tracks for so long. Even a moderator on the facebook group had the same issue and this was over a year ago with no fix. Version 6.1.1 has exasperated that issue and I am probably going to bail if it is not sorted within the next couple of updates. My computer is a beast with 64 gb ram and gaming nvidia graphics card. There is something seriously flawed with the audio engine causing this. Timestretching does seem to introduce the issue and once it starts, it stays with session regardless of removing any plugins at all. Literally empty wave clips just do not play. I stop the transport, push play again and they play.. on and on.. sucks!

I solely use hardware and never used sample packs or plugins. I used Reason for 10 years but went down the same path you are complaining about. I have thought of using a Mac but with 30 + usb devices in my studio a Mac is useless and I’m only going to add more hardware.

Wowzers. I mean no disrespect, but the Dunning Kruger Effect is potentially strong within this this rant. Now I will begin with showing my age by stating that I originally cut my jib on old school 12-24 track desks printing to tape, and then to ADAT before I fully started embracing digital, but seriously... Never once on a job back then did I ever trash on a cheaper desk like a Mackie SR24.4 after using an API, SSL, MSI or Neve. They are legitimately just tools for a means to and end? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I once re-sampled and remixed the title track for a Victory Records published multinational hardcore album release entirely within a dinky low spec Windows XP PC running a "destructive DAW" copy of Adobe Audition 3.0 using almost exclusively it's stock plugins. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That project eventually led to a modest early 2000's portfolio that earned my A.S.C.A.P. union member card. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If the hypothetical vehicle's potentially got enough gas in the tank to complete the metaphorical pizza delivery? It ultimately all boils down to the actual driver's overall skills... The fact that it's delivered in either a cherry ass Corvette or Hooptie AF El Dorado sedan is irrelevant as long if it's delivered in "30 minutes or less" and HOT!. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Toys are a dime a dozen. Resume is everything. My 2 cents. This concludes my TED Talk. LMAO! P.L.U.R. doggins. You did just earn my like, sub, and bell ring tho, Cheers!🖖

you're a funny dude.....im a S1 user and ive recently have had some seriously big issues with the DAW lastly....but none of the reasons you mentioned except for the subscription BS that all these companies seem to in-force.......my issues were all with compatibility with my new M1 mac i purchased a year ago......i had the worst experience w lag and weird anomilieslike having a recorded trk w wave form and only a clip of it would play.....latly i worked out most of the issues but not from any help at presonus ......no custmer care at all......that ultimitly has stayed with me since i have been a loyal user for 8 years when i made the jump from cubase/nuendo ....ironically i left because of the same reasons then with bad custer care at stienberg....they have since worked it out.....anyways...thats it

@reggiedillard7731

Жыл бұрын

Same here man. Been with studio one since the beginning and when version 6 came out and I got the m1 I’ve been having all kinds of issues. I’m completely confused at this point lol 🤷🏾‍♂️. How’s yours going at the moment on the m1?

@LouieShowers

Жыл бұрын

Same here with the weirdness about not playing audio clips. I just commented the same thing about it. I put a ticket over a year ago. NOTHING! and version 6.1.1 is way worse.

How about the GUI. There are some super tiny and dark fonts which are completely unreadable.

i love Studio One. As long as Fender/Presonus don't try to play this very recent and very stupid subscription game from Waves I won't be looking for another DAW yet. But this "version 6", what a joke, but i have given in to their recent upgrade with a 30% discount. And Fender CEO "...make Studio One easier to use", another stupid joke. Out of the few DAWS I have tried, it is the easiest DAW I have ever used and why I switched to it over a year ago.

Stuido one is great but 6 has been the most lackluster uodate. If it goes sub only, I will be out. But after what waves just went through, I doubt it

I suppose I never was concerned with virtual instruments because to me they all suck. If you didn't play the actual instrument then it's not going to be an actual instrument so it will never sound completely like the actual instrument. Even if you use samples there not always going to sound right. I believe you should play the instrument or have someone who can play the instrument play it.. What happened to where people actually had to have real talent to produce music. The DAW world has gotten to the point where any child can collect loops and put them together and never even have to understand musical education. mixing, engineering or production. If you think Studio One 6.1 needs better virtual instruments, there are millions of third-party instruments just a mouse click away. But what other DAW can you get that does recording, mixing, video and mastering all in the same software? I started Studio One with 5.0 and now at 6.1 and I was sold on it with 5.0 and it has gotten better and better. What other Daw can you contact with an idea that will help your workflow and they actually listen and add your idea on the next upgrade? If you want better sounding virtual instruments, ask for it and see what happens they may even help you with them. You are the only one I've actually seen leave Studio One. What do you produce all fake music or what?

Weird..🤔 Just not jiving with many of your takes here. Purchasing Studio One is like falling off a log and I just haven't bothered with any of the Sphere stuff. I'm running a high end Windows computer, several 3rd party plugs, but find many of S1's plugs to be completely usable as well as cpu economical. The Pro EQ3 is pretty darn good and nipping at the heels of the Fabfilter Pro-Q 3. Really it tells me you just wanted to move to something else, and now making excuses for the move. You're welcome to run what you want, of course. I just feel like you're unnaturally reaching for complaints here.

Amen.

How funny you went to Cubase!! I went to Studio One because Cubase was such crap!! In all fairness that was a lot of years ago and I am sure or least hope for it's users that it as improved. When I seen Studio One's drag and drop (at version one) I dropped Cubase like a turd from a tall Cow. I do agree that Cubase as great Midi features that S1 is missing or lacking but Midi is pretty secondary for me so, no biggie for me on that part. Nice video and good content 😃😃😃

@joshuabutlermusic

6 ай бұрын

After a long battle with Cubase and realizing I love Studio One...... I've been using it (Studio One) exclusively. lol

@tompittman3683

6 ай бұрын

@@joshuabutlermusic Glad to hear you seen the light 🤣 I love Studio One and doubt I could ever be swayed to even try any other DAW. I purchased an Atom several months ago and it sat. I watched a very good video last week and realized what I have been missing. The Atom as brought me some renewed enthusiasm which we all need from time to time. I have a Faderport 8 which I really need to get into. I use it some but not like I should. Thanks for responding to my first post -

Its an interesting view...

I’m totally tired of all this subscription bullshit - I’m up to v5- I love the daw- They better stick to the option to buy-

I like the cut of your jib, bro. Real world insights. I've been drinking the S1 punch and I just bought S16. Cant believe their tech team doesn't know what SMPTE is. HOWEVER!!!.... I believe S1 is gonna be the new gold standard (PT sucks). Logic? ... I aint drinking that Apple punch any more. I came from Cubase, but had to ditch 'em. Spent time with Yamaha rep (during C10) and my rep said Cubase wasn't suited to handle multi-threading (multiple cores). I'm sure they've fixed that but all my rep could do was apologize. I've invested heavily in 3rd party plugs so I don't depend on S1 native plugs. BTW... If anyone wants to purchase my Melodyne Studio licence then let me know. I paid $1000 CDN. Make me an offer Also, selling my Orange Tree Bass VSTi licences... great libraries, but I's rather just play a real bass guitar

You just earned my subscription , and I'm going to repost this video on my socail media , now as far as Macs being better than PC's I'm laughing out loud thats an old story from back in the 0s and early 2000's when Apple had the Power PC processor's -G1s-G5's when they started using intels processors then it because a PC with a neater OS and that's when I switched over to PC because i had a hughe issue at the time switching from os Panther to OS X and my software which was Digital Performer at the time , I got a windows machine and never looked back no issues on my systems and what I did was stay on the working OS until it's end of life once Windows XP pro because solid I stayed with them until I needed a 64bit machine then I switched over to Windows 7 pro and was on it for ages with no issues now I'm on Windows 10 pro no issues , So expalin to me from a techincal point how using a Mac is better for audio in 2024? My machine I have now has 128gb Ram, 12 core Ryzen, and RTX 4090 gpu on SSDNVME2's , The M2 processors are super sweet but the OS is shitty and when they update it it's practly by force and all your plugins will not use.

I have to give you a point. I'm in studio one mostly because of the workflow and performance, Is really good in that part in all his funtion and features. But his stock plugins and Sounds are not awesome, are just decent. Compared to Cubase, Cubase is the best DAW in the market in that aspect, Give great sound, have nice plugin Effects and a lot of features, but the only big downside of cubase is the workflow, Studio One is just better. I only paid sphere for studio one to be honest, I don't use any of the other features.

Erm, I bought it the other day. No Sphere sub required.

Absolutely correct on everything. They have some plugins that are okay. Their mixer is great and useful for mastering. It's built entirely for live bands. If you're doing electronic music at all, get ready for frustration. They have NO midi controllers that are worth a damn. Their samples and packs are pure garbage. You want good things then you're buying 3rd party, period. I've had so many frustrations with this DAW it's insane. I don't want to be fighting my software rather than making music.

Why bother, just use your FL when you like it so much. S1 version 6 is a pretty good version with much better video support than 5. You fear, but I haven't experienced any abandoning of S1 by Fender so far and why should they, having a serious well liked, even by professionals DAW in your range, is a nice supply of customers. For me it's simple when they would go subscription only I would switch to Logic in heartbeat, I rather spend the subscription money on Splice or Loopcloud. Just use what you like and feel good with. Nagging about a DAW you don't even use anymore? That's complaining about your loud neighbours that already moved...

Ya Cubase seems like it's got it all. From what I've seen and haven't even tried it.

Industry standard does not mean standard of quality. It means standardized. Similar to standardized testing. The SAT is the standard college entrace exam. Doesnt mean its a high quality test with high standards. Pro Tool is simily the standard DAW you find in a commercial studio for no other reason than its the standard! Well, okay, I guess that can be broken down a bit further. Cause the number one reason Pro Tools is and will remain the standard for the foreseeable future... Money! 1. It costs money to switch to a new DAW. And I'm not even talking about the purchasing costs. Im talking time... if you are having to learn a new daw that means you are not using that time to work on mixing. And what is the quality of a mix gonna be since almost all engeeners will tell you that its not the daw, its the workflow. Thats why studios are not itching to crossover. The reason they will remain on pro tools is, its the industry standard! anyone who comes to you looking for work, they will have experience with pro tools. if you switch daws, then you are almost 100% guaranteed to have to hire someone who doesn't work with the daw that you have chosen to switch to. Doesnt matter what daw you pick. what ever daw it is, that's the daw that a new person will not have experience in because what ever studio they came, from, chances are they were using pro tools. so it pro tools a shitty daw. Fuck ya it is. Its god awful. look at where all their R&D money goes these days. its goes into trying different ways to prevent their product from being pirated. And they have done a great job at it. No, not the R&D. They waisted their f**king money on that pipe dream. But, they did manage to pretty much stop people from pirating their software cause they have continued to make such garbage, nobody even wants to download that shit for free. And there is a reason for this. Its cause they are the industry standard, they know they have the industry by the balls and so they arent spending money to be innovative. They are spending money to protect their investment. Which, if you ask me, that's just a poor investment to begin with. You know every commercial studio is going to have to get a legit licence in order to sell the music they make. It seems a bit pedantic to try and get the few individuals who want to pirate their shit, as if they'd actually buy a license other wise. Pretty much they are smart enough to know they got the industry by the balls but too stupid to realize that they probably lost a shit more money coming up with different anti piracy methods than they regained in revenue purchases.

You must be into Ableton if you are a beat producer? I do Live recording with some v-inst and I find Studio One really nice. Good vid BTW👍

maybe this is why they have a Linux version beta now

i buy every other version of S1 and get a lot for my money. Usually wait for black friday sale or something and get pro for $100...not bad for 24 months of use. i agree about the virtual instruments...they are garbage. I use other sources for that...but i cut my teeth on S1 and don't know any other daw, so it's S1 for me.

Thank you for the honest review. My notion was almost the same. Waging between S1.6 and Cubase 12, I have bought Cubase 12 Pro.

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

It's an amazing DAW for me so far. I've only had it for a couple of weeks but it looks like I'm buying it at the end of the 60 day trial. lol

@nukenoly8751

Жыл бұрын

Of course you are Cubase is the goat DAW 😂

@jenslempke7501

Жыл бұрын

Same here. I use to use Studio One Artist, but also have Reason 12. This gave me the oppertunity to get a compeditive crossgrade and get Cubase Pro 12 for $200 (!) and it feels so much more creative and sophisticated/ pro grade than S1.

😮

I'm coming from FL and I think it's trash and I used to Sony acid so ik basic daws everything I can do on here I can do better or faster on FL and it has ways more plugins an features

OK Ok ok... it will not do your laundry. IYHO Check. Q Base on MIDI . . . Noted. Logic Next time. Thanks?

@joshuabutlermusic

Жыл бұрын

I could do a Logic critique. Lots of things I like and dislike about it. Lol

CLICK BAIT ! You said you bought it for $400 than you said it's impossible to buy ?! later you don't have it installed anymore but use subscription as needed. WTF !

@takinaal318

6 ай бұрын

hahaha 🤣

Now, WHAT IS the point of this video? Thanks in advance.

DON'T BUY PRESONUS. I bought their 32Sand it blew out my $3000 Dell computer... that cost me $800 to fix, and the fault was definitely with the Presonus. Their service dep't was not particularly helpful. While these mixers appear to be very nice on the outside, their completely unbacked with any common-sense instruction. Not even a printed manual came with it. And the return process lost me $1k in studio client work, and the hassle of returning the unit was considerable. NERE AGAIN. Take my advice and BUY ALLEN & HEATH.

Magix Music Maker forever !!

@joshuabutlermusic

4 ай бұрын

The OG!!!! Lol

Weird take.

I’ve used pretty much every DAW but spent a lot of time in Logic Pro. I had my MacBook Pro go out after a decade of use and decided to check out windows because I heard it was more stable than it used to be and lets face it, cheaper. Prior to making the switch I did do a Cubase Pro trial. The capability of Cubase made me comfortable making the switch to Windows. I love Cubase and purchased the Pro version, however later on that year I switched back to a MacBook Pro because as you stated so clearly, it’s just better for audio.

@EasyHeat

Жыл бұрын

I just revived an upgraded a top tier spec 2013 21.5" iMac that I recently scored "as is" for $50. Ha! Had to do a complete tear down and rebuild. Quad i7 4770, 16gb ram, 256gb M.2 NVMe SSD, 1tb SATA SSD, and a GTX 750M 1gb gpu. Not to shabby for $50 + $40 in parts right? Initially went with Reaper because that was what was on my Windows PC, but I remembered that I had an old Studio One license, and when I went to redeem? Presonus offered me the total Sphere package as a free 4 month trial soo.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ My GF just got a M1 Macbook Air so eventually I will probably go Logic Pro X, but for now? Weeeee! LMAO!

You know how to make an instrument real…. Play one !

Cuba’s sucks . Studio one is the best Daw . ❤

Would you make up your freaking mind already! How many videos do you have where you bash one DAW and praise another one, and then turn around and bash the one you praised and praise the one you bashed a few weeks/months previously? I need a scorecard to keep up and that makes your content questionable. Most of your anger seems to be aimed at something that just recently ticked you off you react like a petulant child. To your credit, I think you do a good job of pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of the DAWs you review and you seem to know what you're talking about the majority of the time. I'm not trying to be hyper-critical, but I've seen a few of your videos and seemingly in every one you flip-flopped to a different DAW. It's like watching the video logs of someone stranded on an alien planet for a few years with videos every few months. Maybe you *should* post some kind a running assessment just so people know where you stand so they can watch the most current rants. Honestly, I don't know where you stand ATM, but I also don't have the patience to find out. All that being said, for the most part I've found your videos watchable and informative-to varying degrees at times-just confusing in the grand scheme of things...

Cubase just isn’t “hip”. I was seriously looking at “Sphere” when I saw this but dang , Cubase really IS great ! Thanks for that. I didn’t know it had a better chord track

studio one is a fake copy of cubase or nuendo cubase beats a lot of DAW hands down it also has atmos integrated and better for film too

Studio one dissappointed me so much i went back to PT 10.

Protools is the best in the game

I bought a pre-amp and got Studio 6 as an optional download. Biggest waste of time and effort I've had in a long time. It didn't work for vocals, and the free content was so minimal as to be useless. I'd recommend home studio hardware, like a Tascam or a Zoom every time over computer software like Studio 6. If you can sing and play several instruments, a good 24-track home studio console is infinitely better than Pro Tools and Studio 6. Audacity, which is free, is the only software you need for home recording if you buy yourself good multitrack hardware.

What a total waste of time and server space.

@takinaal318

6 ай бұрын

😂😅

Easy to buy... Never used Sphere... Love it. Everyone has an opinion..."impossible to buy" is just BULLSHIT (you used the word. )