This guy says he learns skills in college classes. One year on the job will teach you more about your profession than four years of college.

@tsipher

28 күн бұрын

that was the case when I was an internet and cable installer at an ISP here in Washington State, that was the case when I transferred to a Network Technician job 4.5 years later, again, no college education and I'm sitting at $65k a year.

@AKman231

28 күн бұрын

Cyber security here and this is 100% true.

@Unknownuser-ki8te

27 күн бұрын

@@AKman231that’s fire

@Harsha-D311

27 күн бұрын

But without degree they won't hire you

@Unknownuser-ki8te

27 күн бұрын

@@Harsha-D311 fax

I’m so glad people are finally asking questions without getting upset. I remember back in the day when they would just walk up and screech.

@Were_In_Strange_Times

28 күн бұрын

Sadly it seems it's a very small number of kids that can have a civil conversation

@davidjr3769

28 күн бұрын

Back in the day ? You mean a couple months ago ?

@Yantrus

28 күн бұрын

If only the same respect was given with the video titles and thumbnails

@bluearchangel1554

28 күн бұрын

The information tide is turning which is why The Govt's "Ministry of Truth" want non controlled internet sites banned.

@joebungus3447

28 күн бұрын

@@davidjr3769America has come a long way since then, kids are starting to let go of the liberal propaganda

Exactly right!! Just because you go to college, get a degree, does NOT make you a good employee that employers want to hire and keep!! I see it every single day!!

If I have two candidates, one has an electrical engineering degree and the other spent 6 years in the military as an electrician, I'm hiring the military vet. Practical experience trumps a piece of paper.

@Michael-RS56

28 күн бұрын

two different skills sets and depth of knowledge. They are qualified for different positions each

@IchNachtLiebe

28 күн бұрын

Yeah, i didnt go to arbory courses but I just felled 70 trees in 8 work days without any incidences by myself. I've cut a lot of trees and I've done a lot of video watching and arborist discussion forum reading. We need to go back to the test of "can you do the job well and safely." I've known many college course arborists who've lost fingers and taken out the corners of garages.

@-Zax-

28 күн бұрын

But if you will have army vet who worked as electrician with electrical engeneering degree vs one without it, you will surely take one with degree.

@shaarinya6932

28 күн бұрын

​@@-Zax- no...I'll take the experience first.

@marcelomendoza1973

28 күн бұрын

@@-Zax- I mean, by that standard if you have 2 candidates who are equal in experience and equal in knowledge but one dresses better, I'd probably take that one too. Same thing if you have 2 equal candidates but one is more polite than the other. The thing is, there are millions of reasons to hire someone and a piece of paper can be the differenciator in ABSOLUTE equal circumstances, but it's still not worth the amount of money and time spend on it.

I didn't go to college. I started a business and bought a house instead.

@sefrzan

28 күн бұрын

Some people are leaders and some are followers by nature.

@Olegna18164

28 күн бұрын

Good for you. Does that help society cure cancer?

@polywomple

28 күн бұрын

@@Olegna18164 shut the hell up

@urstoff6352

28 күн бұрын

@@Olegna18164 Can you find the cure for cancer? Man you're only babbling on something so irrelevant and impossible. If there was a cure for every cancer, no one would be finding it.

@waynemangan7200

27 күн бұрын

@@Olegna18164 THe cancer is inordinate college tuitions and the amount of state money enriching already rich state colleges in the 100's of millions. THey take in so much state money they ought to be free and serve caviar, tea, and strumpets. Big college one of the all time biggest corporate govt, ponzi schemes, even though roughly all corporate/govt partnerships are

I just got a mechanical engineering internship at a big company. One of the head engineers told me that they don’t care about the prestige of a school. In fact, they have found that new hires that come from Ivy League schools are some of the worst performers because they are selfish hyper competitive and don’t know how to work with others. I got the internship over other students who had far better grades. The reason I got it was because I built many projects such as a remote control submarine 3-D printed rocket motors and Even designed my own PCB boards. Jobs care about skills not what college you went to.

@LAESA1

28 күн бұрын

I'm a sophomore mechanical engineering student currently. Any advice on how to start projects? I'm currently learning a basic arduino kit and want to start projects but, don't want to spend lots of money. How did you start if you don't mind me asking.

@generalsirc2615

28 күн бұрын

@@LAESA1 my advise would be to pick a project you find interesting. I picked a remote control submarine, which was really difficult and took 3 years. But you could pick an RC plane. And build one out of foam board first. Or do rocket motors and build an arduino flight data recorder. Or build a kitchen scale with arduino and a load cell from Amazon. That’s a good project. I think a 3d printer is a must if you want to build cool projects. And learning fusion 360 or solid works is a huge skill that will get you internships. 3d modeling is very important. But just pick something you find interesting and then fumble your way to knowledge and success. Let me know if you have any other questions!!

@LAESA1

28 күн бұрын

@@generalsirc2615 I really enjoy rocketry and robotics. I guess my problem is not knowing where to start when building a project myself from scratch. Do you pay for Fusion 360 or Solid works, or does your school provide it for free? I see its pretty pricey to purchase Solid works. Thank you for the advice!

@Unknownuser-ki8te

27 күн бұрын

Exactly they don’t ,I am currently transferring to cal poly San Luis bispo instead of Harvard because I love west coast and cheaper also I want to get done with civil engineering

Most kids in college are under so much pressure to be there, believing they need to be there, that it’s too much cognitive dissonance to decide to drop out and disappoint their families to risk the drastic change in world view.

@avegen1616

27 күн бұрын

100%

College is COMPLETELY outdated, especially with all of the access to online BOOKS, Tutorials, etc. College puts you in debt, wasted 4yrs and unemployed while living at home. Recommended: Find what you have a passion for and learn that job/skill from someone who does what you want to do. Apprenticeship like Charlie has suggested.

@rorsche

23 күн бұрын

That's true. I'm a college grad, and I slightly disagree with Charlie here. The STEM fields are very difficult and require higher education; for most. But the textbooks I HAD to use were like 20-30 years old.

@dgray3771

23 күн бұрын

@@rorsche We do not talk about jobs that require a lot of studying and years of practice. Nobody wants a surgeon at his bed that just happened to walk into a hospital and felt like he could do it so why not give him a chance. But the vast majority of college and university studies are utterly useless. More and more of these pointless social and cultural studies pop up and then you get these courses for management and leadership which are donkey piss. I work as a teamleader, nobody tells me what I look for on the job from a college. Because they do not know what the jobs below my level require. I do, because I worked....those jobs. The best people are those that have worked their way up gained the experience on the job. And these people know what is required. And most administrative duties are repetition and take a few weeks to learn. College grads know nothing. And when some clown from office which is a grad student comes to the work floor I have to watch him like a hawk so he doesn't fkin kill himself with the machines and forklifts driving around. Oblivious useless people.

Thank you for getting him to think deeper.

As a nurse and later a train driver, I learned more on the job - wards as a student nurse and with my instructor driving trains than I did at uni/academy. The uni/academy was only to pass the written/oral tests whilst my every day job is mostly practical [90%]. Same with medical students, when they qualify after 6 years, they learned mostly from us nurses, especially at night/weekends/bank holidays when they are mostly on their own [UK] in the first 6 months than from their own senior collegues with regards to basic admission/how to take blood/order exams/prescribe drugs etc. Uni was 90% theory and 10% practical which they forget.

As a software engineer of 25 years, I can tell you that no one cares where you got your education after year 3 of real work experience, provided you haven't been wasting your time. I've worked on wall street and for government, for myself and for large companies, and it's the same everywhere. Also, no one wants to work with fresh college graduates these days for exactly the reasons Charlie mentions in the video. It's not hyperbole, it's truth.

Instead of college...how about (mandatory) 2 years of civil service helping homeless veterans and the elderly while learning (accurate) American history and the Constitution? Real world problems require real world answers...

@Sianneh

28 күн бұрын

Thank you👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽That what humanity needs

@terrypanama8004

28 күн бұрын

That’s the smartest thing I’ve heard today. Show these kids what life really is.

@metalted6128

28 күн бұрын

No!!! Helping homeless, keeps them homeless. Get em jobs!!! So they can pay their own way!!! Giving is always the answer!!

@Unknownuser-ki8te

27 күн бұрын

@@metalted6128yes

@BLAHKSHEEP

27 күн бұрын

I think Civil Service should be mandatory with exceptions and regulations. Regulation (1): those two years can be during senior year of high school and then bleeds into freshman year college (once a month, spend three--five days doing documented service). Regulation (2): Civil service should be mandatory in heavily populated cities. Regulation (3): Civil service should be optional for public high schools and universities and mandatory for private institutions. In order to fund this we cut back on welfare and food stamps. We cut back on the production of food products (America has an abundance problem not a scarcity problem)(another side note, this might also be able to help the obesity epidemic). And overall, STOP USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR STUPID THINGS: political ad campaigns, funding programs that still in effect due to the Obama administrations, pouring money into the department of Agriculture.

I tried college also, but hated it and the irrelevant classes. At the time i was a security guard at a downtown hotel, when they were hiring for bellman i applied and got hired. I moved to front desk, night audit, night manager, guest services manager, assistant manager and GM of 3 hotels before i finally quit and became a realtor. No more bosses to answer to, no more pissed off guests, no more whiney employees. I own 3 rentals and have my own home.

The student lost. Charlie won. As a business owner myself, I don’t care about college degrees. Work ethics, and personal character matters way more than education. Those educated generally are worse at work ethics and character traits than those who aren’t. What college didn’t teach them technically, I can teach them myself technically and they don’t have to spend 100k doing it either. College has veered from education and switched to programming. Essentially that devalued their degree. And this generation is in for a very rude awakening when they learn it themselves

@dgray3771

23 күн бұрын

@myaccount2825 I remember the stories from my grandfather about how the city folk with all their fancy jobs and clothing had to WALK to the villages to trade their valuables for food during the hunger winter of WW2. Farmers are the backbone of any civilization. And how people with their luxurious lives treat them these days is horrible. And indeed kids these days have no clue how the world functions. That their entire life has been a privilege. I blame the parents though. Who should be old and wise enough to make their kids understand that everything can end. And everything is kept functioning because some people work really hard every day. Society cannot have all kinds of engineers, scientists and philosophers if society does not have a surplus of food.

@moongoalie2410

17 күн бұрын

You’re a business owner, so of course you ‘won’ in term of not needing a degree. But not everyone wants to own or create a business, which is where getting a degree is incredibly important.

So this kid explained that he paid a price for a ticket to a job that is not easy or guaranteed.

Gonna have to diisagree with Charlie here...i recruit for a najor compnay and no way would we ever hire a engineer without a degree

@dgray3771

23 күн бұрын

Kind of funny that you say that. Because most of the major tech companies that exist today were founded not so long ago by some guys building a home made computer in a garage. Didn't need a degree to found it. Now suddenly need one to be hired at that same company? Irony.

Computer Science major here: This kid is fooling himself if he doesn’t think Chat GPT is about to make computer science extremely competitive.

@merchant_of_kek5697

15 күн бұрын

What’s it right now? 1 in every ten pieces of coding is functional programming. It’s becoming better by the month

The market isn't saturated, these kids just want to work at google and aws.

@urstoff6352

28 күн бұрын

True, there are so many startup companies that are looking for skilled and entry level workers.

@mervfer1162

28 күн бұрын

They wanted to work at Twitter and Facebook where they employed about 3x what was needed so they just sat around drinking latte on the company dole.

@HEADSPACEnTIMING

26 күн бұрын

@@urstoff6352 true, also not just start ups, there are thousands of other companies that also pay nearly as well or better if your qualified. Theres plenty of money to be made out here.

@dickgrayson4325

26 күн бұрын

This is correct. He is a lying POS

@HEADSPACEnTIMING

26 күн бұрын

@@mervfer1162 If they can't find a job afterward, it's because they have no skills and the market is booming. You're right; they were drinking lattes and being complacent.

Wish i knew charlie was in my area. Id come with popcorn. His talks are more interesting than any recent marvel movie

I grew up poor, as did my wife who is from the Philippines. No college degree and we're retired at 42 and 36.

@Emils_really

28 күн бұрын

That's awesome, congrats. What did you guys work as?

@davidjr3769

28 күн бұрын

Ew who the hell wants to retire that early …. I would be bored as hell

@HieuLe-oz4jg

28 күн бұрын

@@davidjr3769 the thing thats great about retirement is that you have a CHOICE whether you want to work or not. if you want to work a job that's more fulfilling and makes you happier, now you can have that option without worrying too much about salary.

Also small businesses are HALF OF THE JOBS IN THE country.

@soonersciencenerd383

28 күн бұрын

small businesses need people really really bad....covid...

@cowboyx9380

28 күн бұрын

Last i checked its 80% of employment in the US…..small businesses.

I went to my job in highschool, stuck with it, and they put me through business school for FREE with a promotion. I’ll be regional manager by 26 with zero college experience. And no other big corp would care that I didn’t go to college when they see I have EXPERIENCE. The amount of college kids that walk through our doors feeling high and mighty because they have a degree and know the lingo is insane, all to come to me with 101 questions on how to do their job. ITS ALL EXPERIENCE.

I can tell you from experience with IT education that a lot of hiring managers want years of experience for the most entry level, low paid positions. And that was told to me by a guy in IT 15 years ago. I can't even imagine what it's like today.

College is not the only way

@7eVen.si62

27 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@7eVen.si62

27 күн бұрын

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrick

@Unknownuser-ki8te

27 күн бұрын

It’s the only way if you want engineering ,lawyer ,doctor

@squirrel3443

27 күн бұрын

Boomers made college almost the only way

@dgray3771

23 күн бұрын

@@Unknownuser-ki8te Engineering seriously depends on what field. The other 2 are high level at least in my country. You go to 6 years of highschool with latin and greek as 2 major subjects. And then go to U for anything medical or law related. As for anything else. It is on hand experience that is required. Even simply lab work is on hand experience, you cannot really learn anything exept your tables and safety.

There is a saying we have, it’s not what you know but who know that gets you that job etc

I got a FULL ride to Tufts University-a very ritzy university. I was not scammed.

The issue is something of a catch 22. Because not everyone is cut out for trade work. And it is in my experience that those making the real big bucks for trades are those own their company. Otherwise you settle for a modest wage. Not everyone can be the entrepeneur like Charlie and I'd have to look up his timeline to see what had to occur to get there. There are also plenty of people who go on to have lucrative careers with their college degree for jobs that need it. This is why you have those people bitching about student loan forgiveness.

@ffjsb

28 күн бұрын

Exactly. You can make great money doing trades. But there are good jobs if you want to go the academic route too. There are a lot of wasteful degrees like gender and diversity studies though. Kids need to be taught how to pick a career path, and what options they have. They need to be exposed to what the workplace and higher education has to offer, and what you can expect to make at different jobs.

@soonersciencenerd383

28 күн бұрын

"put everything on the table, and eliminate everything that does not, will not help your career, future." (unneeded classes, books, schools, goto trade school, vo-tech, online courses, and get grants, before loans... they are there. the internet can help)

@ateachableheart2649

25 күн бұрын

not sure where you got your info about modest wage most likley privately ownbed no union businesses, but union TRADES jobs are some of the highest paid in the nation. My son is 26 and making almost a 100k as a union Tradesman. And he's 4th year apprentice.

@ateachableheart2649

25 күн бұрын

HVAC is recession proof industry. People want to be warm in winter and cool in summer regardless of the state of the economy.

CS Major here. The only thing that the CS degree is useful for is to get the actual interview. From there, it depends how well you perform on the interview and the hire choice is never based on degree or not. The value of the degree is primarily just having a higher chance of getting the first job. Since more interviews, more chances of getting hired. There is some truth to what the kid is saying in that it the college grad would have a higher chance of being selected for the interview and will have years of coding experience, internships, and theoretical understanding. Neither of these are common in a coding bootcamp. For the bootcamp grad they'd have a significantly more difficult time getting their first job since they'd be selected less for interviews and have less technical skills. However, after the first job degrees really don't matter as a CS grad.

If the field of computer science is so over saturated, why choose that for a field? Why not choose a field where there are more jobs than applicants?

@jasonbradley9236

28 күн бұрын

Because it wasn't over saturated 3 years ago.

@thirzapeevey2395

27 күн бұрын

@@jasonbradley9236 If it wasn't, then why did he pick a school specifically so he would stand out in an over saturated field? Take the path less traveled. Pick a field where they are desperate for employees.

@desrucca

27 күн бұрын

​@@thirzapeevey2395sure, tell me which fields are not saturated & wont be saturated in the next 4 years

@redsammy7789

26 күн бұрын

@@desrucca Electricle

@thirzapeevey2395

26 күн бұрын

@@desrucca Why four years? If you pick a field that only takes a few months or a year to train for, why do you need four years? We have a crippling need for carpenters, electricians, plumbers, mechanics, roofers, etc.

While Charlie is right that college in large is a scam. This kid is right specifically about computer science. I work as a software engineer and this is probably the worst job market ever. learn to code in 8 weeks is bullshit. Boot camps, are bullshit. Have people been hired after a boot camp? sure. but thats very rare from what ive seen. You can't actually "learn to code" in 8 weeks or 6 months (most bootcamps). You can learn the basics but that won't be enough to do the job, nor get an interview. Again, im speaking specifically about computer science. i have other degrees too and they are all useless and they are also in STEM.

@nickamalfitano3613

28 күн бұрын

College, in your case was useful. In my case, I went for communications/marketing. I work in sales. I definitely use alot of the skill set, but the degree I gained is mostly useless.

@johnhunter9589

28 күн бұрын

You don't learn to code in College. It's computer science, not computer programming. You can teach yourself how to code and enough computer science to be employable. I am a principal engineer in software and I came from an EE background with 0 knowledge of coding. I learned everything myself by reading books, a lot of research, going through code on GitHub as I find interesting third party libraries, etc. I work largely in .NET, which has a steep learning curve for novice programmers, including those coming out of school with CS degrees. Will a degree help you get your foot in the door faster? Certainly. Does it mean you can't find entry level positions as a self taught programmer? Absolutely not. Get a year experience and move on to something better. No one cares about your degree after your first job.

@dannylaza1326

28 күн бұрын

@@nickamalfitano3613 Honestly, my CS degree is also useless. I taught myself everything. Employers just like to see that you have it. My other STEM degrees were useless too, even more useless than the CS degree. The only benefit is that they were math heavy, which teaches you to think analytically which is helpful with a lot of things. Again, you don't need to go to college to learn this stuff. I have 4 STEM degrees and they are the hardest ones to get probably, but I consider it a waste of time. If I could go back, I would have never done any of them or any college.

@TephaRhi

28 күн бұрын

Even so, what’s more important than degrees are human interaction and communication skills coupled with hard work, critical thinking and self-motivation, which a degree cannot guarantee. Personality is super important in being able to keep and improve in your position, moving up the so-called ladder of monetary gain which in the end is the whole goal right? So learn people skills for free!!

@phurion.

28 күн бұрын

@@TephaRhi you don't have to have any human interaction and communication skills when you learn to be a profitable trader in the market

i like that this guy can have a peaceful disagreement, its rare nowadays

Interviewed for my current position 3 years ago. I beat out another candidate with a masters degree in computer science. My boss told me he had all the credentials and didn't have any working knowledge. I have no degree and will never get one.

No College Degree, worked as a network engineer, Information Security Engineer, then moved into SatCom (launches, in orbit testing, etc). Made $130k in my third year (1998) and continued to climb. Nobody cared about my lack of college, they looked at the vocational camps and certifications along with my proven track record. The only thing i didn't get in my life from not having a college degree, is years of student loan debt.

@jasonbradley9236

28 күн бұрын

It's not 1998 anymore.

@slingblade01

28 күн бұрын

​@@jasonbradley9236yep, you're right. Today, you can make twice what the OP stated. I know because my brother has a similar background as the OP; HS education, cyber security experience, and a govt security clearance. Oh, and no debt.

@DepAcornMagdump

28 күн бұрын

@@jasonbradley9236 and yet, I've watched my son do the exact same thing.... In 2018! Colleges are a scam. From the ridiculous course requirements that have NOTHING to do with the major of study, to the fact that the ROI on many degrees being a negative.

@Unknownuser-ki8te

27 күн бұрын

It’s hard to get an engineer job with no degree though and need an actual certification from taking a test then you are an actual engineer

@slingblade01

27 күн бұрын

@@Unknownuser-ki8te you're mostly right. But if it has anything to do with computers such as writing code, network management, or cyber security, experience will trump a piece of paper every time. On the flip side, some of these jobs will be replaced by AI soon if not already. I also believe that many engineering fields such as SEs, IEs, and others will be replaced by AI soon. I spoke to several engineers in various fields when my kids were in HS to help them with their focus in college. Their recommendations were: 1. Stay away from anything that AI will touch. Unless you're involved in the design or maintenance of AI. 2. Be specialized. Avoid programs/schools with general degree programs. 3. Don't be afraid to apply for jobs outside your field of study. 4. Work ethic and initiative will get you hired faster and KEEP you employed longer than the "I just wanna get paid" attitude.

Correct, I look for programmers all the time. Where you studied is mostly a red flag. I would leave that out.The only things that matter are what you can do, and if it looks like you can hold a job for a long-term investment in you.

Before I switched to Elementary Education, I was a Computer Science Major. The company I was applying for asked me to leave UVU and do DevMountain (8 week crash course) as it was more important to them and other web companies. I did get the job, but did not find it fulfilling, so I switched to Elementary Education.

Problem is kids think they walk out of college qualified & deserve the same pay as someone already 10y in the workforce.

More and more degreed people are nightmares for employee cohesion, morale and productivity. They are quick to question, second guess and outright disobey or disregard their superiors. Not to mention litigiousness

I went to community college for 2 years I told my dad I don’t like school he just told me you can just get a job if you want. So I just work full time making $38 an hour I’m 29 years old .

He's studying Computer science yet he sounds more oblivious to the economy than anyone. I went to college for 6 years for different computer science fields I dropped out because I already knew everything they taught. College even for CS is pointless you can literally learn everything by doing research online

@MACDRU421

19 күн бұрын

You can do that for most fields and get a PHD level of education at the public library.

I agree wholeheartedly with Charlie. I home educated my seven children and they are some of the most well rounded, successfully employed, contributing citizens I know. My now 23 year old son taught himself computer programing as part of his in home educational experience and was hired (with no degree) at 20 immediately after serving a mission for our church. He is well trusted, knows more than his co-workers, makes more money than most people his age, is married, just had his first child and just purchased his first single family home, where he plans to rent out the basement to supplement their income. All of my children are under 30 and some chose to attend college while others didn't. The ones who went, worked their way through, paid outright and didn't go into any student debt. The four eldest are married and have given us nine grandchildren so far. Three of those children own homes, in fact, one owns two and rents one out. Two own businesses and two have well paying blue collar jobs. My intention isn't to brag but to show what can be done with a valuable, Godly education where children are taught to work hard, to be producers, entrepreneurs and not uneducated, mindless consumers.

College is not the only way. College is worthless today. Get yourself a skil (community college or trade school). Then start working. By the time your friends are out of college, you'll be an integral part of a team (maybe a team leader). Most skills used in jobs are trained while on the job. Taking an expensive college course for it is not financially viable today.

I make 6 figures cutting grass, my plans were delayed for a short time because of covid affecting labor. but I should be at 7 figures in 2 years. No college, just a good sense of business.

Bruh Ive seen the jokers that boast their 3-4 year Comp Sci degrees only to lose out just getting their foot in their door by some kid who did like a 12 week short course.

@MACDRU421

19 күн бұрын

Not the reality. Those 12 week boot camps are garbage. Most CS grads from a good university probably already did 2-3 summer internship programs and have a job lined up after graduation

@etroqueen9891

19 күн бұрын

@@MACDRU421 not denying that there are garbage bootcamps out there but there are some decent ones. The point here would be that it wouldn’t be entirely necessary for you to commit to a full university degree to get into IT. It’s proven that alternatives such as short courses and bootcamps can be enough to get your foot in the door. Obviously, it would be on the individual to do their research beforehand. Either way, degrees don’t necessarily guarantee jobs.

My son has a dual degree in computer science and technology but has been unable to find work in his field since he graduated 3 years ago unfortunately during covid times. I wish now I knew better and encouraged something else because he’s extremely intelligent and can do anything but feels like a loser and I can’t help him now he feels like he failed and is in a depression.

@pennyhardaway7491

19 күн бұрын

Tell him to continue building apps but focus on things that he finds useful or can solve an everyday problem. Also, try coding control systems, a simple motor or switch, a group of lights, some physical piece of hardware to automate tasks. Also aim for smaller-mid sized companies, not the huge ones all grads are going to be saturating.

@drsandy842

18 күн бұрын

@@pennyhardaway7491 Thank you!

Leave school, get a job, see some of the world, THEN decide what you want to know more about. Mature age students.

@7eVen.si62

27 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

As a professional with a degree in CS, it is not mandatory to have a degree. Going to college to learn is helpful, but the skills needed can be learned online and outside campus. It's easier to learn in college because you're told what to focus on, but that information is out there already.

Practical Application Skills from College? At UC Berkeley the Chemists from College of Chemistry have very poor skills for Chem lab work. UC teaches theory.

Nice to see one of these kids actually listen & make some logical points vs screaming with emotion that carries zero logic. I wish this kid nothing but good luck!!

He is going to be really disappointed when he finds out that the only piece of paper he needs for an IT job is an H-1B visa. Good luck getting your hands on one of those. He will wind up working at Best Buy.

lolol I love how that kid just called all trade workers muscle idiots.. what an asshole lolol

Free sauce right here! Charlie is very correct.

They tell you how it is yet never worked full time and fended for themselves in the practical world. Forensic science: why hire a college student with a degree when officers that work along side the Forensic officers are far easier to transition.

id rather my doctor not bypass college.

@larryrunske8401

28 күн бұрын

Good point

@tommybotts

28 күн бұрын

That will manifest itself shortly when the DEI hires start showing up in hospitals and clinics.

@cathiemcginnis3997

28 күн бұрын

And hopefully didn’t graduate at the bottom of the class!!!😮

@cathiemcginnis3997

28 күн бұрын

​@@tommybottsthey are already.

@Gorlockthe

28 күн бұрын

@@tommybotts live in our shared reality. youre an ideological fanatic.

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@KieranJordan-vz3hj

28 күн бұрын

This shows that real life experience is more better than college degree.

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28 күн бұрын

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28 күн бұрын

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@jamesadams9328

28 күн бұрын

Degrees won’t do much for you in the real world sad reality

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28 күн бұрын

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Out of all the people i know who went to college i cant think of a single person in a job in the field they studied. Most of these people end up at burger king with 50k in loans

I learned more in the first year of my first job than I did in 4 years of college. I studied CS.

The book The Anxious Generation addresses what caused the depression, anxiety that has seriously affected younger people.

The one thing you don't learn in college when it comes to Programming, is how to program. They teach you how to regurgitate code in some language (C, C# Java, etc.), but not how to really understand how to program and how to implement it outside the classroom. Programming is Programming. Some languages might have features another language doesn't, or implement a specific technic differently. But if you don't know how to program you will never get very far as a coder. Most companies just want to know that you can produce good, easy to maintain code; they will teach you what you need to know about the specific business.

5:20, Why does this generation think that they WILL get high paying jobs right after college??? When you graduate from college, you WILL be the "grunt" for 1-2 years!! Even with a college degree, you need to "put in the work" to learn the business/industry that you have joined. I didn't start making "good" money as an emergency room pharmacist until I was employed for 5 years!! Graduating students need to learn the "trade" for several years before he/she makes $60/70K a year!!

He said that you can learn coding in 8 weeks and get a job that pays 80k per year. Where can I learn good coding to get a job like that?

Paid my own way to a political science degree. Wound up starting my own business and getting married instead. Most fulfilling decision ever.

@7eVen.si62

27 күн бұрын

⭐️

In Amazon, you can be a L5 and L6 which are the Operations Manager and Senior Operations Manager without college degree. You can move up from an L1 to L6 in less than 4 years. Amazon will also pay for tuition fees if you wish to go to school. They’ll pay 90%. You’ll get this benefit on your first day at work. They even send you to other states to study trades for free including travel expenses and accommodation and still pay your full time salary while in school. L

The kid is partially right. Usually Charlie is on point but here the kid is respectful, with a good plan for himself and a valid understanding of reality.

This is enlightening. Here in the Philippines, that piece of paper (a degree) is key; almost all office and government jobs require one. But hey, if blue-collar workers here in the Philippines were more appreciated, I would never go to college. As of now, in 2024, the minimum wage of a foreman in the Philippines is 750 pesos, or about $13. Plumbers and electricians earn similar wages. These are very skilled people and yet very underappreciated.

i didnt go to college and im a striving solar technician these college kids are clowns

4 years in the military will give you more experience and a paycheck and almost every job is in the military. Why pay some college for an education when the Military will give you all of that with no debt.

Why would anybody want to start their working life with massive debt?

Back in 2018, a CEO of a company that employs up to 1,000 people gave an interview saying, he would hire an 18 year old out of high school over a 22 year old that never had a job and spent the last 4 years at college. He said he can teach that 18 year old how to do his job and if they need specialized schooling, the company would pay for it. He prioritizes loyalty and hard work above an entitled graduate with a 60k college debt. He even made the statement, "A college degree just shows me you had four years of indoctrination instead of four years of learning to do a job." He came to that epiphany when an interviewing college grad told him the money he was offering for the job wouldn't help him pay off his student loan. He replied to the applicant, "Your student loan is not my problem. You pay for your own mistakes." With that he told the applicant that the interview was over!

I never went to college. Half the people I was in charge of had a degree.

I like this guy cause at least he could have conversation instead of yelling like others

We literally have the Internet and every bit of self education at the tip of our fingers yet this kid is convinced that he can’t learn anything unless he goes into debt 😮😭

Computer Science will be outsourced to AI or foreign immigrants for a fraction of the salary. Good Luck with that.

@DAVID-io9nj

28 күн бұрын

I thought that had already happened. Wasn't that the story about India taking a lot of the computer science jobs because of the pay differential between our countries?

@bluearchangel1554

28 күн бұрын

@@DAVID-io9nj Yer sir, it's still happening David (great name btw) every year the US either imports workers with H-1b visas to work here in the "computer sciences" or we export the jobs to their country. Either way he ☝ has a lot of competition.

College was the biggest waste of time for me

@7eVen.si62

27 күн бұрын

Stop lying. You never went to college. You work at FatBurger😂

@davemustang8173

27 күн бұрын

@@7eVen.si62 and you licked your dad's toes when you were a kid. What's your point?

I've worked in computer programming for 31 years. I can tell you that we don't care where you go to college. It's about who can do the job and who can't. By the way, the college degree we value most highly, if we bother to look at all, is mathematics. Mathematics is about thinking in the abstract.

College doesn't teach Soft skills. Working and failing does.

Experience counts far more than education. Even within the government GS scale, a bachelor's degree = GS-07, master's degree = GS-09, and a PHD = GS-11. I have known many GS-11 and below with no degrees, and very few with even a bachelor's degree. Granted, this is not across the board, but it certainly been my experience in over 30 years' experience.

I didn't go to college & I'm a Network/Voice Engineer. College is just a fancy way to say you're ready to make $12 an hour. You will start at the same spot as someone without a degree. Every person I met who went to college for IT has never been very good at IT. I learned everything they did for IT in 2 months. I didn't need a 4 year degree.

To some going into debt to get a paper you realize you don’t need and being stuck with it paying it off for half of your life… or so I’ve heard .

I remember somesone saying something interesting like, "I didn't go to college because I was too busy working."

First of all...why willingly go into debt into a field that you already know is super oversaturated and could possibly be taken away by AI? 🤯

I’m an IT hiring manager. I’d rather hire a kid who uses elbow grease and determination to get what he wants than some kid who thinks being funneled through a bureaucracy with a sense of entitlement opinion on it. Congrats, you have a piece of paper. You “studied” for 4-6 years. Will you wake up at 3 in the morning when a system goes down and drive to the data center to assist a colleague? Will you continue to research and keep up with emerging business trends? Can you assimilate information instantly and form a strategy for implementation? Do you have guts? Degree’s look great on paper, and help with mobility to check a box, but personality and experience are paramount to me. I don’t need a robot that gets spoon fed curriculum that will become outdated to help us. I have AI/language models to regurgitate information. Smart people with a passion (especially in network engineering and systems administration) for what they do who care about their team makes the business move. I’m not saying a degree is useless. What I am saying is that it’s not as useful as the candidates personality and experience.

Mad respect to that bro for having a civilized and intellectual debate instead of screaming and crying.

What annoys me is college students who think they’re hot shit because of that piece of paper.

In all honesty, I didn't learn anything in college that I used in my actual job right now. But licenses and specializations shouldn't make you break the bank or be in debt, that makes no actual sense.

Higher Education offers NOTHING for young people anymore. No life skills and MOUNTAINS of tuition debt which WE the taxpayers have been FORCED to pay for. TRADES is where it's at now. WE NEED TRADES people!!! If we don't do this we have no one to build houses and provide electricity in our homes and offer us our creature comforts like HVAC. Cost to educate and train is WAY Lower, pay is WAY higher (HUGE DEmand). AND classes focus on LEARNING!!! Not brainwash propaganda!!!!

Hey Charlie, I love what you do and how you do it and while watching these college campus debates I wonder if you could explain what if any prep you do before you head out for the day? Part of what makes me wonder this is how quickly you are able to pull out statistics and political events and important figures, etc. Thanks Charlie!

@ateachableheart2649

25 күн бұрын

when you know a topic so well, you cannot be defeated in debate.

@finkelburg192

25 күн бұрын

@@ateachableheart2649 Thats fair. I imagine he references a lot of this stuff often enough that its just saved in his brain. Still curious though.

If it’s over-saturated, did you make a wise decision to choose that field? Reminds me of computer programmers in the late 70’s, early 80’s. Too many. That means even the salaries will be lower because they can easily replace you. You’re likely not going to be secure in that job in that situation.

I can’t see all these young people getting worthwhile degrees like Medicine, Law, Science, Engeneering… I can’t see them leading the country either

You need to address the degrees that DO MATTER- and you don't have to spend 12k+/yr on

The problem I see with a lot of these college students is that they try to justify needing a degree for some job, but they don't realize (due to their age and lack of life experience) that most companies would HIGHLY prefer a person with work experience rather than just a fancy piece of paper. Even stupid people can graduate from college, but that doesn't mean that person is good at the type of job they're studying. I'd absolutely prefer someone with experience.

Who hires people with a degree in Economics these days? Besides colleges/universities needing someone to teach the next wave of suckers, err... I mean students. And possibly the government.

Started working when I was 14, tried a semester of college and didn’t like it. Worked my way up to one of the top wine salesman in my company. I’m 25, this is the first year I’ll be making six figures. I have a 750 credit score, good amount in my 401k/ROTH/investments, AND I have $0 in debt. College Is A Scam. Oh, and I graduated high school with a 2.8 gpa 😂.

Hey! It's the University of Hamasington!

Most of the students never say : I’m at a free party for several years on someone else’s $$. Is their MAIN reason. 🤔😎😳😂

After two years in college I was able to get an entry level job in my field. I dropped out of my bachelor's program. Within two years I had changed companies and gotten a promotion. I would've still been in school and had far more debt if I hadn't left for work.

This guy said a huge truth...AFTER 5 YEARS IN YOUR CAREER NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR COLLEGE!!!!!!! AFTER THAT EMPLOYERS JUST CARE ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE!!!

Computer Science boot camps will not substitute a college degree in the workforce. It's a SUPPLEMENT. It adds to your resume. Companies will almost always hire someone with a BS in comp sci than someone who took a coursera class

I have a master's degree in science and I've worked in a major biotech/pharma company for 25 years as a principal scientist. Frankly, I do not feel like the work I do requires the college education I received. It requires a diligent person with good analytical skills, communication skills, project management skills, and common sense with a couple years of on the job training. But the reality is, there are millions of people who meet those criteria, and a college degree is more of a piece of evidence to show the potential employers that you really have "the stuff" to get the job done. Should that require 4 years of undergrad and 2 years of grad, almost 200 credit hours? Of course not.

The problem with youth is they don't have real consequences for their actions. Old generations did everything based on experience, new generations just "think" and "feel". If they grew a pair and experienced everything they say they would flip in a minute. Also the first guy doesn't believe he's getting ripped off because probably his parents and taxdonors pay for his college. If he had to pay for it himself... that's another story.

I have owned two big tech companies. Every BS in CS looked alike. Anyone with an eagle scout went to the top of my list instantly. Anyone with experience rose to the top. Candidates that did more on their own outside of college rose to the top. One of my key interview questions was how many computers do you own, and how many are running right now. Wow, what a filter that was!