Star Wars Timeline Overview: Part 8: The Rebellion Era | Manda-LORE
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@darthprime1990 Жыл бұрын
I look forward to seeing the biography of the New Republic era
@SorakuFett Жыл бұрын
Oh, I love the explosion of the Death Star passing over BBY as it turns to ABY, that's a clever edit!
@frankheninja1 Жыл бұрын
You do a very good job of framing the most convoluted, nonsensical era in the EU timeline in a way that makes sense and follows even a semblance of coherent timeline.
@delta2372
Жыл бұрын
Still better than the shit disney has given us with their continuity.
@frankheninja1
Жыл бұрын
@@delta2372 obviously lol.
@froqwo4851
Жыл бұрын
What does EU mean, I always see it but don't know what it means in star wars
@frankheninja1
Жыл бұрын
@@froqwo4851 Expanded Universe. It was the old canon before Disney bought Star Wars. They call it “Legends” now, but the OG fans still mostly call it the EU.
@froqwo4851
Жыл бұрын
@@frankheninja1 Thanks, I knew what legends was but EU just means the same thing.
@anon-yw4wd Жыл бұрын
I love how this all has 0% to do with Disney Star Wars.
@paulsteinhauser434
9 ай бұрын
It feels great doesn't it
@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445
8 ай бұрын
Well, obviously not.
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Жыл бұрын
An excellent video, two notes of correction however: 1) Zaarin never planned on giving the Rebellion TIE Defenders, he worked at cross purposes to them throughout his Insurrection. It was one of his Captains that attempted to defect to the Rebel Alliance with information on the trap at Endor, the Second Death Star and a captured Missile Boat that tried to give the Alliance these items and information against Zaarin's wishes, Vader tracked the captain down and he was captured. 2) Zaarin's Insurrection lasted for six months, with the Grand Admiral killed just prior to Endor, however some of his forces still remained active in the Unknown Regions(specifically the Imperial Star Destroyers Thunderer, Imperator and Predominant) and finishing them off along with dealing with Nuso Esva's threat were why Thrawn was not present at Endor. Zaarin's Insurrection had pivotal consequences far beyond his death. The Insurrection proved that an Imperial Commander in possession of forces loyal to him personally, could go rogue and set up his own satrap-as indeed most Imperials after Endor proceeded to do. Zaarin's actions stripped the Empire of advanced fighters and facilities denying the Empire the use of the TIE Avenger, Defender and Missile Boat fighters in any real numbers for the next fifteen years. This weakness would be exploited countless times by the Rebellion and later New Republic, who utilized their own advanced fighters to massacre the shieldless TIE LN and TIE IN fighters the Imperials were forced to rely on, most pivotally at Endor where Rebel fighters were the instrument of the destruction of the Death Star II, Executor and several Star Destroyers.
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
I admittedly don't have access to the TIE fighter games and have to rely on the small summarized accounts of the games from source books like the Essential Atlas and the Essential Guide to Warfare (then, contracting the summery even further for this overview video) but when I eventually do a video on the Zaarin Contention specifically, I will be sure to rectify these mistakes on my part.
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE I look forward to it, this really is quite an impressive video overview considering how much transpires in this time period from the TIE Phantoms, Black Sun Uprising, Anti Sith Conspiracy and Zaarin Insurrection. If you would like I do have an extensive library of data on the Zaarin Insurrection I would be happy to offer when the time comes for that more specific video. Cheers.
@ArcTrooperRod-269 Жыл бұрын
I'M COUNTING THE SECONDS
@spartanstrategy6643 Жыл бұрын
Love that you’re covering all the timelines in the EU! Will you ever do a video on an arc that in cannon was similar to an EU arc and compare their differences and similarities and in your opinion which one was better? Keep up the great work of keeping the EU alive!!!!!
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
If you take a look at my shorts, I compare and contrast a lot of elements between the 2 continuities. Unfortunately I haven't done any full-length videos on the subject yet.
@spartanstrategy6643
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LOREawesome I’m going to check them out right now! Thanks!
@orbaitv5991 Жыл бұрын
1 hour?! You are doing gods work here man.
@octavioortiz679 Жыл бұрын
There you go. Continuing to prove you are the best Star Wars channel on KZread 👏
@wolfpredator1000 Жыл бұрын
Man, that was quite a journey, it makes you think about the blood and sweat in and out of the universe the rebellion era represented. Thank you for this compilation of events that clarifies such data. It could use some more direct mention of renegade squadron and X2, maestro 😉
@jojom6389 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I can’t wait for the new part! Perfect video to listen to at work!
@Ljordan093 Жыл бұрын
That was great! The best ever. Looking forward to the New Republic era!
@TytheBandit Жыл бұрын
It’s so nice to hear about the Truce at Bakura again.
@GroundGame. Жыл бұрын
Well done sir, that was a massive amount of effort.
@OGStarwars Жыл бұрын
Well done my friend. I know it’s tough to decide what to include in the timeline so heavy with much lore activity
@rc59191 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work as always dude hope you do one like this on the Old Republic.
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
I did, years ago, what do you think parts 1-7 were? I didn't just start with part 8 lol
@rc59191
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE oh my mistake I thought it had something to do with the Imperial and Republic eras lol
@latviandragon2718 Жыл бұрын
37:05 ah so thats what kyber crystals originally were
@delta2372
Жыл бұрын
Honestly allot better than the stupid mood ring BS disney turned it into
@jacobboisselle5730
3 ай бұрын
@@delta2372technically Lucas made it that way. Not Disney.
@hagbardceline71188 ай бұрын
43 minutes in blew my mind. What a twist!
@FrogmanLeaps Жыл бұрын
Loving this series! Hope you keep it up til it's finished:) love your channel and content dude
@joniesraphael24779 ай бұрын
I know I’m 1 year late but I have to say that part was funny Ready to sandwich 🥪 them lol
@emzonik8851 Жыл бұрын
I have one question regarding Bail Organa. The Emperor deemed him a traitor and sentenced to death. He escaped and went to...Alderan. How the hell was he able to live there for 2 damn years as if nothing happened!? He's supposed to be a rebel and officially recognised as such by the Empire! Why didn't Palpatine just arrest him there? He was IN HIS DAMN HOME all this time for whatever reason...
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
The force unleashed kinda screwed that up. In the previously established material, Bail remained a loyal imperial senator publicly and aided the Rebellion secretly, stepping down and having Leia take his place. Force unleashed changed that so he was taken captive right at the signing of the Corellian treaty and was slated to be executed by the emperor himself before Starkiller rescued the rebel leaders. Then he just kinda goes back to Alderaan and it's never explained why the emperor didn't put a hit out on him after.
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE Yeah, it sucks. Though who knows, if the old continuity was continued they'd likely find a way to explain this somehow, but it would still not feel right.
@JCDenton3
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the game totally lost me at that point. Stuff before was neat, even having the main character help form the alliance, but some rewrites were definitely needed to avoid that colossal mess to the timeline.
@youngsmitty347
9 ай бұрын
Best way to maaaaybe tweak it is that Palpatine decided to let Organa slip by 'unnoticed' for the years leading up to ANH so that he could remain on Alderaan when Tarkin destroyed it. His way of saying, "Sure, you can have your little rebellion. But when this weapon is complete, it will become ashes like you and your world."
@egillskallagrimson5879 Жыл бұрын
Dude I have a problem with you and your channel... yes, every time I watch a Manda-lore video a strong and irresistible urge to play Empire at War Awakening of the Rebellion overcomes me. Damm gonna be installing the game again...
@jameskennedy8030 Жыл бұрын
I WAS wondering if you planned to do a Rebellion era video or not......
@chheinrich848611 ай бұрын
Your the best, just for the fact you credit all the media you use for the video,
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets Жыл бұрын
Damn, 4 ABY was one hell of a year.
@delta2372 Жыл бұрын
15:12 intentional or not, i do love the shade at rogue one here.
@JabamiLainАй бұрын
2:08 sounds familiar. Where did I hear this ? Any ideas, Palpy ?
@ShinjiIkari1 Жыл бұрын
Will you do YJK,NJO and LotF/FotJ next as one video or split them up between YJK&NJO and LotF&FotJ in two separate videos?
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
I'm going by novel era. NJO Is its own era, YJK is in the New Republic era which is next and the Killik trilogy + LOTF/FOTJ and the legacy comics are all in the legacy era
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE Isn't the NJO era alone too short for 1 video though? Indeed a lot has happened there but there's still less to discuss than during the ROTE era and the Clone Wars for example. It's your call of course, yet I'd recommend you include the NJO into either the New Republic era or Legacy era.
@emzonik8851 Жыл бұрын
Rogue 1 could have basically fit in Legends. Battle of Toprawa is the equivalent to battle of Scarif. One could even mix elements of those stories in theis headcanon.
@delta2372
Жыл бұрын
Honestly with how much disney loves to emasculate male characters, it's for the best that kyle katarn hasn't been brought in (we got his Walmart version of him instead)
@anon-yw4wd
Жыл бұрын
No Disney Star Wars.
@kainemaxwell Жыл бұрын
Wow
@archiejohnson67112 ай бұрын
No Holiday Special? 😁
@KageAkarui8 ай бұрын
I have a question. Before The Force Unleashed, how did the formation of the rebel alliance happen?
@Manda-LORE
8 ай бұрын
Pretty much the same way with Mothma, Iblis, and Organa signing the Treaty of Corellia to combine their rebel movements into one united front, minus Kota and Starkiller, and of course the whole Vader instructing Starkiller to coax them into starting the rebellion thing; that part didn't happen in the pre-TFU lore. The reason why I don't take as much issue with TFU retcons vs TCW retcons is that TFU at least acknowledged and attempted to fit into the lore established before it.
@KageAkarui
5 ай бұрын
@@Manda-LORE Thats why I don't mind it either but TFU is still barely canon for me. It's a great game and story but i feel it's a little over the top for no reason other than to play as an over powered badass. I also feel it diminishes Darth Vader and Palpatine too much when they are canonically the strongest apart from what Luke accomplishes.
@Trip-the-Sungazer Жыл бұрын
I love Andor.
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
It is quite great. I hope that it doesn't contradict too much of Legends though as for now I count it into my head canon.
@anon-yw4wd
Жыл бұрын
That is Disney Star Wars, not Expanded Universe. Not even the same canon.
@plasmawarper5837
5 ай бұрын
Andor the generic series
@JabamiLainАй бұрын
Why did Organa enjoy diplomatic immunity while Iblis didn't ?
@Manda-LORE
Ай бұрын
It was a plot hole created by the Force Unleashed that no one ver bothered to explain before the reboot
@JabamiLain
Ай бұрын
@@Manda-LOREoh !
@BlackMaleSpirituality8 ай бұрын
When are you going to complete the series?
@Manda-LORE
8 ай бұрын
Part 9 is still being written. These last few eras are going to be looooooong. And then at the end, I'm going to redo the first 5 parts with updated narration and combine all of the videos in this series into one big one
@BlackMaleSpirituality
8 ай бұрын
@@Manda-LOREI look forward to it!
@isaiahjackson252 ай бұрын
Please please please update this!
@Manda-LORE
2 ай бұрын
How? It's up to date, no new EU material has been released to update this lol
@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445 Жыл бұрын
I'm too lazy currently to watch through the whole thing. Are the 1977-1984 Star Wars-comics, and more specifically Jaxxon, the green rabbit, in there.
@anon-yw4wd
Жыл бұрын
No.
@egillskallagrimson5879 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, that thx to disney's heresy we are more than willing to accept The Force Unleashed as canon and it makes more sense than anything from the degenerate servants of the mouse.
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I look forward to seeing the biography of the New Republic era
Oh, I love the explosion of the Death Star passing over BBY as it turns to ABY, that's a clever edit!
You do a very good job of framing the most convoluted, nonsensical era in the EU timeline in a way that makes sense and follows even a semblance of coherent timeline.
@delta2372
Жыл бұрын
Still better than the shit disney has given us with their continuity.
@frankheninja1
Жыл бұрын
@@delta2372 obviously lol.
@froqwo4851
Жыл бұрын
What does EU mean, I always see it but don't know what it means in star wars
@frankheninja1
Жыл бұрын
@@froqwo4851 Expanded Universe. It was the old canon before Disney bought Star Wars. They call it “Legends” now, but the OG fans still mostly call it the EU.
@froqwo4851
Жыл бұрын
@@frankheninja1 Thanks, I knew what legends was but EU just means the same thing.
I love how this all has 0% to do with Disney Star Wars.
@paulsteinhauser434
9 ай бұрын
It feels great doesn't it
@Lr.Laecro.Lirus3445
8 ай бұрын
Well, obviously not.
An excellent video, two notes of correction however: 1) Zaarin never planned on giving the Rebellion TIE Defenders, he worked at cross purposes to them throughout his Insurrection. It was one of his Captains that attempted to defect to the Rebel Alliance with information on the trap at Endor, the Second Death Star and a captured Missile Boat that tried to give the Alliance these items and information against Zaarin's wishes, Vader tracked the captain down and he was captured. 2) Zaarin's Insurrection lasted for six months, with the Grand Admiral killed just prior to Endor, however some of his forces still remained active in the Unknown Regions(specifically the Imperial Star Destroyers Thunderer, Imperator and Predominant) and finishing them off along with dealing with Nuso Esva's threat were why Thrawn was not present at Endor. Zaarin's Insurrection had pivotal consequences far beyond his death. The Insurrection proved that an Imperial Commander in possession of forces loyal to him personally, could go rogue and set up his own satrap-as indeed most Imperials after Endor proceeded to do. Zaarin's actions stripped the Empire of advanced fighters and facilities denying the Empire the use of the TIE Avenger, Defender and Missile Boat fighters in any real numbers for the next fifteen years. This weakness would be exploited countless times by the Rebellion and later New Republic, who utilized their own advanced fighters to massacre the shieldless TIE LN and TIE IN fighters the Imperials were forced to rely on, most pivotally at Endor where Rebel fighters were the instrument of the destruction of the Death Star II, Executor and several Star Destroyers.
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
I admittedly don't have access to the TIE fighter games and have to rely on the small summarized accounts of the games from source books like the Essential Atlas and the Essential Guide to Warfare (then, contracting the summery even further for this overview video) but when I eventually do a video on the Zaarin Contention specifically, I will be sure to rectify these mistakes on my part.
@grandadmiralzaarin4962
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE I look forward to it, this really is quite an impressive video overview considering how much transpires in this time period from the TIE Phantoms, Black Sun Uprising, Anti Sith Conspiracy and Zaarin Insurrection. If you would like I do have an extensive library of data on the Zaarin Insurrection I would be happy to offer when the time comes for that more specific video. Cheers.
I'M COUNTING THE SECONDS
Love that you’re covering all the timelines in the EU! Will you ever do a video on an arc that in cannon was similar to an EU arc and compare their differences and similarities and in your opinion which one was better? Keep up the great work of keeping the EU alive!!!!!
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
If you take a look at my shorts, I compare and contrast a lot of elements between the 2 continuities. Unfortunately I haven't done any full-length videos on the subject yet.
@spartanstrategy6643
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LOREawesome I’m going to check them out right now! Thanks!
1 hour?! You are doing gods work here man.
There you go. Continuing to prove you are the best Star Wars channel on KZread 👏
Man, that was quite a journey, it makes you think about the blood and sweat in and out of the universe the rebellion era represented. Thank you for this compilation of events that clarifies such data. It could use some more direct mention of renegade squadron and X2, maestro 😉
Thank you so much! I can’t wait for the new part! Perfect video to listen to at work!
That was great! The best ever. Looking forward to the New Republic era!
It’s so nice to hear about the Truce at Bakura again.
Well done sir, that was a massive amount of effort.
Well done my friend. I know it’s tough to decide what to include in the timeline so heavy with much lore activity
Awesome work as always dude hope you do one like this on the Old Republic.
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
I did, years ago, what do you think parts 1-7 were? I didn't just start with part 8 lol
@rc59191
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE oh my mistake I thought it had something to do with the Imperial and Republic eras lol
37:05 ah so thats what kyber crystals originally were
@delta2372
Жыл бұрын
Honestly allot better than the stupid mood ring BS disney turned it into
@jacobboisselle5730
3 ай бұрын
@@delta2372technically Lucas made it that way. Not Disney.
43 minutes in blew my mind. What a twist!
Loving this series! Hope you keep it up til it's finished:) love your channel and content dude
I know I’m 1 year late but I have to say that part was funny Ready to sandwich 🥪 them lol
I have one question regarding Bail Organa. The Emperor deemed him a traitor and sentenced to death. He escaped and went to...Alderan. How the hell was he able to live there for 2 damn years as if nothing happened!? He's supposed to be a rebel and officially recognised as such by the Empire! Why didn't Palpatine just arrest him there? He was IN HIS DAMN HOME all this time for whatever reason...
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
The force unleashed kinda screwed that up. In the previously established material, Bail remained a loyal imperial senator publicly and aided the Rebellion secretly, stepping down and having Leia take his place. Force unleashed changed that so he was taken captive right at the signing of the Corellian treaty and was slated to be executed by the emperor himself before Starkiller rescued the rebel leaders. Then he just kinda goes back to Alderaan and it's never explained why the emperor didn't put a hit out on him after.
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE Yeah, it sucks. Though who knows, if the old continuity was continued they'd likely find a way to explain this somehow, but it would still not feel right.
@JCDenton3
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the game totally lost me at that point. Stuff before was neat, even having the main character help form the alliance, but some rewrites were definitely needed to avoid that colossal mess to the timeline.
@youngsmitty347
9 ай бұрын
Best way to maaaaybe tweak it is that Palpatine decided to let Organa slip by 'unnoticed' for the years leading up to ANH so that he could remain on Alderaan when Tarkin destroyed it. His way of saying, "Sure, you can have your little rebellion. But when this weapon is complete, it will become ashes like you and your world."
Dude I have a problem with you and your channel... yes, every time I watch a Manda-lore video a strong and irresistible urge to play Empire at War Awakening of the Rebellion overcomes me. Damm gonna be installing the game again...
I WAS wondering if you planned to do a Rebellion era video or not......
Your the best, just for the fact you credit all the media you use for the video,
Damn, 4 ABY was one hell of a year.
15:12 intentional or not, i do love the shade at rogue one here.
2:08 sounds familiar. Where did I hear this ? Any ideas, Palpy ?
Will you do YJK,NJO and LotF/FotJ next as one video or split them up between YJK&NJO and LotF&FotJ in two separate videos?
@Manda-LORE
Жыл бұрын
I'm going by novel era. NJO Is its own era, YJK is in the New Republic era which is next and the Killik trilogy + LOTF/FOTJ and the legacy comics are all in the legacy era
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
@@Manda-LORE Isn't the NJO era alone too short for 1 video though? Indeed a lot has happened there but there's still less to discuss than during the ROTE era and the Clone Wars for example. It's your call of course, yet I'd recommend you include the NJO into either the New Republic era or Legacy era.
Rogue 1 could have basically fit in Legends. Battle of Toprawa is the equivalent to battle of Scarif. One could even mix elements of those stories in theis headcanon.
@delta2372
Жыл бұрын
Honestly with how much disney loves to emasculate male characters, it's for the best that kyle katarn hasn't been brought in (we got his Walmart version of him instead)
@anon-yw4wd
Жыл бұрын
No Disney Star Wars.
Wow
No Holiday Special? 😁
I have a question. Before The Force Unleashed, how did the formation of the rebel alliance happen?
@Manda-LORE
8 ай бұрын
Pretty much the same way with Mothma, Iblis, and Organa signing the Treaty of Corellia to combine their rebel movements into one united front, minus Kota and Starkiller, and of course the whole Vader instructing Starkiller to coax them into starting the rebellion thing; that part didn't happen in the pre-TFU lore. The reason why I don't take as much issue with TFU retcons vs TCW retcons is that TFU at least acknowledged and attempted to fit into the lore established before it.
@KageAkarui
5 ай бұрын
@@Manda-LORE Thats why I don't mind it either but TFU is still barely canon for me. It's a great game and story but i feel it's a little over the top for no reason other than to play as an over powered badass. I also feel it diminishes Darth Vader and Palpatine too much when they are canonically the strongest apart from what Luke accomplishes.
I love Andor.
@emzonik8851
Жыл бұрын
It is quite great. I hope that it doesn't contradict too much of Legends though as for now I count it into my head canon.
@anon-yw4wd
Жыл бұрын
That is Disney Star Wars, not Expanded Universe. Not even the same canon.
@plasmawarper5837
5 ай бұрын
Andor the generic series
Why did Organa enjoy diplomatic immunity while Iblis didn't ?
@Manda-LORE
Ай бұрын
It was a plot hole created by the Force Unleashed that no one ver bothered to explain before the reboot
@JabamiLain
Ай бұрын
@@Manda-LOREoh !
When are you going to complete the series?
@Manda-LORE
8 ай бұрын
Part 9 is still being written. These last few eras are going to be looooooong. And then at the end, I'm going to redo the first 5 parts with updated narration and combine all of the videos in this series into one big one
@BlackMaleSpirituality
8 ай бұрын
@@Manda-LOREI look forward to it!
Please please please update this!
@Manda-LORE
2 ай бұрын
How? It's up to date, no new EU material has been released to update this lol
I'm too lazy currently to watch through the whole thing. Are the 1977-1984 Star Wars-comics, and more specifically Jaxxon, the green rabbit, in there.
@anon-yw4wd
Жыл бұрын
No.
The thing is, that thx to disney's heresy we are more than willing to accept The Force Unleashed as canon and it makes more sense than anything from the degenerate servants of the mouse.