People often overlook the fact that the excelsior class was designed and built to fight the Klingons as tensions were high and skirmishes were common. That tank dominated nearly anything in the Quadrant at that time. My own head cannon is that the space frame was overbuilt in order to handle the stresses of transwarp drive. The excelsiors were often more than a match for cardasian galors pre dominion. There’s a reason so many of the admiralty chose them as their ship.

@adamlee2111

28 күн бұрын

Yep, they're sturdy old ships 👍

I really like this. I love that it show cases the Intrepid class's rapid pulse fire torpedo launchers. One thing i noticed though was that the shields of the Intrepid weren't as endurable as they should be. The El-Batani was a pre dominion war Excelsior class, so the Intrepid class's shields should have more endurance. Definitely not along the lines of the heavy shield generators of a Galaxy or Sovereign class, but definitely more than a decades old class of Starship such as the excelsior class. Again not saying the Intrepid class should wipe the floor, but should overall perform better. Great battle! I am glad i came across ypur channel, you do amazing work. ❤

@jyralnadreth4442

29 күн бұрын

I agree...the Intrepid here struggled a little bit too much. The Excelsior Class was normally equipped with Type 8 Phasers whilst the Intrepid had Type 10s. The Intrepid should be somewhere like 20% stronger or so than an Excelsior....enough so that the Excelsior is still a threat which it is.

@adamlee2111

29 күн бұрын

Seeing what the Lakota could do after an extensive refit I decided that the Excelsior class as a whole must still be a fairly powerful design: I doubt the Lakota went from a rust bucket to a serious warship from that one refit. Basically, we’re seeing a modern light cruiser engaging an old heavy cruiser that’s been refitted multiple times over its service life to keep it competitive. I also had a weight class gap in the Federation fleet that I wanted to fill. Starfleet is loaded with light cruisers and frigates, then they jump straight to heavy cruisers with nothing in between. The Excelsior was a good candidate for something more powerful than a light cruiser but weaker than a heavy ship like the Ambassador

@necroticavalon5176

28 күн бұрын

@@adamlee2111 Yes, people underestimate the Excelsior class. It was designed as a heavy battlecruiser in it's day, basically one step down from a dreadnought. No matter how modern the Intrepid class is, it's a light cruiser. Efficient, quick, agile, sleek, but - a light cruiser with light cruiser size, hull strength and power output for shields. And a refitted Excelsior is easily a more powerful ship in battle, as it should be. Realistically in a fight between the two, Intrepid's best chance is to outrun it (which it can do easily) and set up an ambush in some asteroid field or a nebula, using it's superior sensor array. Also try to outmaneuver it. And if it comes up against a Lakota-variant... run like hell and don't look back.

Love it. Gives the Excelsior class it's due respect. The thing was a BEAST when it first launched, and a refitted one is still very much a heavy cruiser. Intrepid class is a light cruiser.

@adamlee2111

28 күн бұрын

Thank you, its a difficult ship to balance in a lot of ways, I wanted to show its age but also give it the respect it deserves. It was never portrayed as a weak ship but at the same time it can't be seen fighting the big guns of the 2370's on equal terms. Its all a work in progress 👍

Sooo, Janeway vs Janeway? 😛

Voyager was a very fast glass cannon with extreme plot armor and mary sue qualities. A post war excelsior should be able to give it a good run. An ambassador should be able to stand up to an intrepid.

@adamlee2111

5 күн бұрын

I’d put a dominion war era ambassador firmly above an Intrepid to be honest. It may be older but with upgrades its shields and weapons would be modern and it’s weight class is several steps above

@aaronatwood9298

5 күн бұрын

@@adamlee2111 Sadly, the intrepid because of voyager became the "uss plot device". I wish they would have showed the degradation of the ship and how it slowly morphed with the alien tech. Would have made it more believable.

@adamlee2111

5 күн бұрын

@@aaronatwood9298 indeed, some weeks it’s beaten by tiny, technologically inferior ships and next week it’s holding up against a Borg tactical cube 😂

@aaronatwood9298

5 күн бұрын

@@adamlee2111 😂🤣😂

I hate this automatic shield redistribution/regeneration thing. None of these ships ever had this. Voyager also didn't have rapid fire torpedo launchers. Finally, there's no way a pre DS9 era Excelsior could even come close to taking on Voyager. The Lakota varient excepted which would absolutely wreck an Intrepid.

@adamlee2111

27 күн бұрын

The Al Batani is balanced to Dominion War specs since the game is set post war, this is not Voyager vs an Excelsior with decades old shields/weapons. The shield redistribution is an attempt to compensate for the rubbish AI constantly exposing weak shields to the enemy, even if it has green vectors available. Closing the holes in their defences makes the AI more competitive with a human player (somewhat.) And it does tie in with the shows to a degree: ships often take severe damage, losing weapons, hull breaches etc and yet they claim the shields are still at 60% or something. My take is that a vector was overwhelmed and they took damage, then power was shunted from other emitters to reinforce the weakened shield.