I wrestle with this idea every day

This guy does the math.

I am a natural bass guitarist and I tune my standard guitars to fourths when I play standard guitar. Much easier to comprehend. As the purpose of standard tuning is to enable easier 6-note chords, I can’t think of many genres of music that require six-note chords anyway. Maybe folks music, playing cafes with an acoustic... Certainly not most rock, funk, jazz, or reggae.

@ohadaloni

4 жыл бұрын

yossi fine used to play for stanley kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioZh1NeReMnffM4.html

As a bass player, I,myself,learned if I wanted to play a guitar,I had to tune it in 4ths,made sense to me,(which leads us,in turn,to the law of correspondence!!) Who knew??

1:51 "that used to bug me out." ⭐

he's a very good teacher!

I just discovered this tuning on my own as well. I love octaves. I was trying to get the same fingering for octaves on all strings...after I did it ...I Googled it...come to find out...it's perfect 4th tuning. Mind blown 🤯 Should have been doing this the last 20 years. And who tf is this guy and why have I never heard of this monster until right now?

@pitpride1220

Жыл бұрын

I don't know but welcome! I'm older, my brother gave me a couple records of his in the early 90's and I've been hooked since.

Same as others here, started playing a bass, and I just couldn't wrap my hand around standard tuning. I also play left-handed upside down, which made certain 6-string chords even harder. Nowadays i just play baritone uke and tenor guitar in P4 tuning. And I totally agree with Stanley Jordan about the beauty of the symmetry.

I used to see him on Columbus and 72nd st.( early eighties ) 'till '85 . He had large crowds then . He played great !!!

@billsmith2212

Жыл бұрын

I saw him in front of the Library at 42nd and Fifth Ave. around noon in 1980 .

@Galidi1969

Жыл бұрын

@@billsmith2212 can't wait to see him this summer.

feels like i've made a huge mistake playing in standard tuning for like 20 years lol

@SpoonFinder

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry there are no mistakes in music! Just different approaches

@JoeJoe-ng9qb

5 ай бұрын

You're not alone!

I kinda love this idea I think I may have to try this out

Used to watch the crap out of this video. Stanely is great.

I never knew this man was a GENIUS !

Musical genius!

this guy is genius

🤘🔥🔥🤘

genius

All fourths, all fifths, or a mix of the two. Optionally throw in some unisons and thirds if you have more than 5 strings.

I've always disliked that B string (changes to 3rd) And except for slide, never had any idea you had the right to retune. Picked up a cello recently. Tuned in 5ths! Boy did THAT get me thinking. Was considering retuning to fourths until I started reading. Amazing stuff.

Cool. Yeah, I mean, one time I tunned my guitar to a lute tunning, you just need to change one tring from the regular tunning. It changes the shape of some chords, it''s good to force your brain to think different I guess.

Ibanez LR-10

How is it I’m just seeing this guy?

@ohadaloni

5 жыл бұрын

probably because most guitar players don't like splitting, which is natural for pianists: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ho6cm9Vmp8fVaMo.html

This fourth tuning makes more sense than standard tuning but how would that change the shape of the chords??

@charlie35lc

Жыл бұрын

Consider D major triads: Here are two not affected: 554xxx x12 12 11 xx In standard tuning you could have: xx777x but this would become xx776x So it’s the same shape as the first two. Or in standard tuning: xxx232 which would become xxx221. All root inversion triads would have the same shape regardless of what strings they are played on.

french pionnier of the tapping ...stanley is the matter ...i ve keep the usual tuning !

@ohadaloni

4 жыл бұрын

thank you for your comment. It is an honor.

@fabiencourtoistapping

4 жыл бұрын

@@ohadaloni thank ohad ! i follow the way of stanley since i ve seen him at barcelona ! this guy is too great !! i invite you on my channel !!!

@ohadaloni

4 жыл бұрын

"keep" - yeah, well, when you already know how to play, its not useful to try and switch. its got nothing to do with the tapping. it is also difficult to learn from others with p4. as it so happens, I just started this at a very late age and decided its better for me as things are quicker to learn, and the internet cannot teach me much with tapping anyway.

Does this tuning allow for more chord options then standard tuning?

@ohadaloni

6 жыл бұрын

it does. but it also prohibits or makes more difficult many others.

@tevbuff

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply. I will experiment with this tuning in the future.

Anyone know where this clip is from? I would LOVE to see the whole thing.

@ohadaloni

3 жыл бұрын

its a part of something called "master sessions" where various artists each take their "shot". this one is his. My channel has it all, broken down to 24 pieces. I also have the whole video on my pc. its 1:29 hours. 700 MB. If you tell me how I can transfer it to you...

@amitfernandes4367

3 жыл бұрын

Ohad Aloni Whoa! Thanks man that is so nice of you. I can’t PM directly through KZread so maybe put it in a Dropbox folder and share the link in the description? This way it would be available for everyone interested

@ohadaloni

3 жыл бұрын

@@amitfernandes4367 www.dropbox.com/s/fxzms3nvb3rnjoi/Stanley%20Jordan%20-%20Master%20Sessions.mpg?dl=0

@amitfernandes4367

3 жыл бұрын

@@ohadaloni Thank you so much! I owe you!!

@DrBlowThingsUp

3 жыл бұрын

@@ohadaloni Dang, you hero! This is excellent stuff. Thanks so much.

idk what periphery 4 has to do with this but good video!

old habits die very hard....instructors should...educate students to this alternative to standard which is actually an open tuning....

Why is P4 musically better than Standard tuning? Music, like storytelling, is a matter of interpretation. We learn language rules and many words to tell stories in our own way, but don't always quote paragraphs written by others. So I think it was a great mistake by many to teach the guitar by copying "hand positions" of famed players in order to learn songs, instead of interpreting their sound. That is why more intuitive music-making tunings were abandoned for the sake of seemingly "easy copycatting." The guitar playing became harder and more confusing than necessary. If the music was really the goal of tuition, then we'd have at least 30-40% of musicians playing in P4, instead of 99% playing in Standard.

Slow down professor!!!

Im playing 55 Dont understand the fascination with the odd tuning

Original Tosin Abasi?

@ohadaloni

6 жыл бұрын

indeed. there were some others too at the time.

@Chris-cf2kp

4 жыл бұрын

@@ohadaloni Is Tosin a P4ths player? Or just related through his progressive style?

@sageanderson8527

4 жыл бұрын

Chris latter

@castle6660

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris-cf2kp Just related through Black lol

P4 tuning is great until you go into Guitar Center and pull one down off the wall.

@wmc128

9 ай бұрын

I play D standard. I tried P4 tuning whole step down then I went straight back to regular D tuning. Its great for scales and triads but playing 5 note chords are a bit cumbersome. The open medleys are based around the key of F in P4 tuning highest tuned string determines the relative key. Standard is based in E so changing the the two treble notes a half step higher makes it F.

What an extraordinary mind! I wish he didn't tap though. Hate the sound.

@yeezet4592

3 жыл бұрын

Like bruh just get a Chapman or something

As a bass player, I,myself,learned if I wanted to play a guitar,I had to tune it in 4ths,made sense to me,(which leads us,in turn,to the law of correspondence!!) Who knew??

@ohadaloni

6 жыл бұрын

see kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioZh1NeReMnffM4.html who used to play base for stanley